Hi all , just got an Ameo (U.K T-Mobile version) and upgraded to Windows Mobile 6 Professional CE OS 5.2.1620 (Build 18125.0.4.2) official rom.
Everything works fine except GPS signal that really sucks!! I have red all topics carefully and i have set all parameters right such as COM 5 and baud 9600 but with Destinator 7 it does not fix satellite signal! It gets one satellite on cold start after 3-5 minutes and maybe some 2nd or 3rd but really UNSTABLE...so it loses fix and again from start.. Navigation is almost impossible!
Any suggestions please?Does someone else have the same problem maybe?..Or my device is faulty?Is it possible that Destinator 7 does not work fine with the built in GPS?I have tried external bluetooth gps on other port and baud and it goes fine!!6 satellites minimum 8-9 maximum and fast fix even on cold start.Is it possible that my ROM version is problematic?
ROM Version: 2.35.110.4
ROM Date : 10/09/07
Radio Version: 1.50.00.00
Protocol version: 32.83.7020.20H
I can never get a fix when it's in the faux-leather case, if that's any help... usually get a fix within 30s out of the case.
davemee said:
I can never get a fix when it's in the faux-leather case, if that's any help... usually get a fix within 30s out of the case.
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agreed, i get better results though in faux leather case, but my primary case is a n aluminum case hahaha so i know my own problem. temp resolve was an external recvr
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Have you tried the reg change to enable GPS in Camera mode (to allow location metadata to be stored within the picture)? I find if the GPS is ever slow to start up, using this first of all to get a location seems to kick things into life. Also make sure your QuickGPS file is upto date.
For some reason mine is now getting a lock much quicker than ever it has been before. I normally start TT just before I set off and previously it was taking approximatly a mile of driving before getting a lock. Now, it only takes about 1/2 a mile - have the US done something to the signal, or has my Ameo now developed supercow powers?
I'm running the cooked rom v3, radio 1.5 and its in the leather wallet.
Crumbs - half a mile? I usually start CoPilot when i get in the car and by the time I've started moving i have a fix - I take it out f the case to put in my Brodit mount but even in the house in the case it doesn't take that long to get a fix!
It is TomTom !!!
giorgosp: Yes, I can conform the problem and it's driving me mad!
Flashed to the T-Mo ROM this week, as PK3 was giving problems connecting to WMDC (tried a hard reset initially, and no better )
The T-Mo ROM is good, and allows WMDC to connect well, but since flashing, I've been unable to obtain a valid GPS lock. Tried with GPSInfo and iGO2006. I get a couple of small bars, and nothing more. Today, I drove for 45minutes, and no lock at all. My Orbit2 sitting on the car seat with CPL got a lock in 20 seconds from cold.
Previously, I could get a lock within 2 minutes if stationary, and about 10 minutes if moving (I live in a region with lots of windy country lanes, so rarely see the same bit of sy for more than a few seconds!), so this does seem to be an issue with the T-Mo radio.
..and further to the above, I've just downgraded the Radio to V1.47 (which means hard reset), and taken both the Orbit 2 and the Ameo outside- Orbit2 got a full fix in 30 seconds, and Ameo 30 seconds later (so 1min TTFF from cold, which is the best I've yet seen!)
Don't know if going back to radio 1.50 will keep the improvement, but I'm tempted to keep it as it is
im running 1.50 in a pawell rom and it's all good !! I think T-mo have messed things up !
So NeilM do you suggest me to downgrade radio version to 1.47?how many satellites is reaching to fix? ..to get a valid signal i think at least 4 and stable,right?
To all of you using other than the official t-mobile 2.35 rom with radio 1.50: how many sat signals do you achieve to fix using athena with the leather case under normal condition? does the radio version impact on gps signal so much?
I tried reverting to radio V1.50 and same problem, so at least in my Ameo there is a problem with the new T-Mo ROM, Radio 1.50 and the GPS receiver.
Went back to 1.47, and this morning got a cold TTFF in 1 minute.
You need 3 satelites for a 2D fix- locates at ground level, and 4 for a 3D fix, which includes altitude.
From a cold boot, the 1st sat signal takes a while, but it then provides almanac info for any other in its vicinity. As the reciver gets more almanac info it builds a picture of the sky, then the ephemeral data is downloaded.
Once almanac info is obtained, you will see the short bars in GPS apps; once ephemeris is obtained the bars turn dark, or change colour and when you have 3 of those, navigation can commence.
I can't advise you to change the radio version, especially as it needs a hard reset, but can only repeat that it worked for me, here in East Anglia, using the Ameo on Orange.
Neilm,when reverted to radio 1.50 have you used the t-mobile rom or have you used only the radio cab provided by forum?even if my question seems silly i was thinking that maybe a file of those included in t-mobiles 2.35 rom radio 1.50 is problematic??so have you flashed only the radio version back to 1.50 or the entire rom (including t-mob radio 1.50)?
So you suggest change to 1.47?i understand that hard reset is unpleasant setup from beginning but having a dead gps after paying so much for this device is worse.. Could some expert please find this issue..?
..guys i live in rome and i tried everything..it gets 1 sat fix after 3 minutes and upon gets a second one it looses both of them..my ameo is like without gps.. only when i use an external bt i-blue i can use it.. but i bought this mobile for not carrying 200 things with me.. :-(
I used the Radio only link, not the whoe T-Mo ROM, so it seems, for me at least, that it is the radio version, rather than where it comes from.
If you don't mind doing a hard rest, I'd say try it I can't say it will work, because it seems there are a number of factors which I don't understand. Some users have GPS working OK with this ROM and radio 1.50.
My personal experience is that radio 1.47 works much better for me, both for GPS and WiFi, and the phone reception is no worse. Battery use seems about the same.
Are you in Rome city centre? If so, have you tried going to a more open space to get a 1st fix? High density buildings can give a poor view of the sky, and give some 'multipath' interference, which can prevent a proper fix.
Athena GPS Quickconnect can't find anything else vaguely apprnnect
Firstly, sorry to hijack this thread, but I couldn't find anything else appropriate.
Relevant to this thread: I have no problems with my current hard/firm/software combo and GPS connect time. It is about 2-3 mins without a current quickconnect file, but fine with both TomTom 6 and VisualGPSce.
Does anyone know what the antenna hardware is like for the GPS radio in Athena? Is it inbuilt to the semiconductor hardware or is there something else? If there is a physical antenna it could be broken? Try attaching an external bluetooth/USB receiver or external antenna. If one works it can only be the antenna or the GPS hardware at fault, right?
My problem
GPS quick connect will no longer connect through 802.11 wifi, bluetooth activesync or USB activesync. The only thing to have changed is that I briefly enabled and then disabled GPRS wifi. Although the settings for GPRS/WAP have been disabled and in network settings the option for 'programs that use the internet automatically' is set to 'my work network', GPSquickconnect still seems to be using my GPRS service provider (which cannot be deleted).
I know a hard reset will resolve this but it would be nice to know if anyone else has come across this and found a reg tweak to remove the service providers in the drop down connections list.
Thanks is advance.
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I have a PW10B in the US, using a Cingular SIM. In many locations I cannot get a signal at all, and everywhere else I pull a maximum 2 bars. My other phone, a Motorrola RAZR, will pull good signal in the same locations.
I have already upgraded the Radio Stack to 6.24.20 (Complete with the side excursion around the 1% GSM Upgrade failure) with no noticible improvement. I am likely going to try RS 6.25.02. Anyone have any other recommendations to boost the cellular performance of the Wallaby? Maybe a hardware fix on the antenna itself?
Poor reception
I need to find a way to make this better too! I have the same phone and while I seem to get ok reception (sometimes up to 4 bars) in the city, in somewhat remote areas I get no signal at, while my old phone gets 3 bars. I have a PW10B1.
found the RSU updates at the ftp site:
ftp://xda:[email protected]/Wallaby/
Which version is the latest? The A. version or 6.25? Which is most stable?
For all of you getting a 1% error when trying to load any of the 6.24 .25 updates (or others), make sure you put all of the extracted files in the windows directory on your mobile device. Whenever I put them anywhere else I get the 1% error and the program closes. When I put it in the windows dir I get 100% completion with 6.25 and A. versions. Soft reset when update is done to activate phone.
Still testing. I'll get back to you on stability, performance, etc.
Well, here's what I found, so far...
I have now tried 6.24.20, A20.10, and 6.25.02. OF the three, 6.25.02 seemed to pull a slightly better signal that A20.10 (One extra bar at my house). So, I reinstalled that one and will stick with that unless someone can give me a good reason to change to another stack.
Reception has not noticebly improved with any of the RS changes. Also, as you said, if I simply put the Radio Stack files in the /Windows directory and run RSUPDATE.EXE from there, I have no problems changing. The problems happen if I try putting the RSUPDATE.EXE in the /startup directory as well and then performing a warm reboot.
But it hasn't made much difference, if any at all. But strangley enough, changing the ROM back to a PPC 2002 version (3.17.03) DID seem to make a difference. I know it shouldn't, but the phone is pulling 1-2 bars more than it was in a lot of locations and is getting better coverage. The reception is still inferior to my other phone, but it is now *almost* livable...
Unfortunately, I really prefer the feature set on PPC 2003 (Particularly how it handles the GPRS connectivity) so I am going to continue to futz with it. Again I ask, anyone know of a hardware fix to improve reception??
RSU Stack
Agreed. I have now thoroughly tested bot the A20 and 6.25 stacks and the 6.25 stack get's my vote. I haven't gone back to the PPC 2002 ROM yet, but I might try that too. Currently I'm running the XDA-Developers ROM 3.17. I still don't get a signal at my house with anything but the 6.25 RSU stack definately gets a clearer reception, drops less calls, and works better programmatically. With the A20 for example, even when I showed no bars, if I tried to place a call it would all of a sudden show full bars (3 on my PPC) as if I had great reception - but would never make a call. With the A20 I don't know what to believe. With the 6.25 it works better and WYSIWYG.
L8r
So, glad THAT's settled...
So, I haven't found anything for a radio stack better than 6.25 . But I hate hate HATE PPC 2002 when I know the feature set of 2003SE, so, I'm going to go back to that again. I noted that during my 50 mile drive today, the phone STILL lost signal at the same spots it was previously, but would report better signal where it could get signal at all.
And it's not like I am out in the sticks, we are talking right neat the Nashville airport and down the interstate corridor.
So, at the end of the day, It looks like I will likely just be going back to the RAZR, and saving my pennies for a Himilaya or Wizard....
SO, although this is the Wallaby forum, anyone know if the antenna is any better on the later devices as compared to the Wallaby??
Here in Argentina my PW10B1 Wallaby has poor reception too. I don't get a signal while my friends' cellphones get a strong signal with no hassles. This does not happen in urban areas, only in the road. I think the Wallaby's radio hardware is poor, or the antenna design maybe is bad.
That's a great question lynrd... do newer models have the same poor signal problem???
I think that is a problem of antenna design...
I have problems with signal reception in many places.Most of them happens randomly...
The same problem I mechanically fixed this problem, and it gave me a positive result. The problem is with antenna. 8)
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The same problem I mechanically fixed this problem, and it gave me a positive result. The problem is with antenna. 8)
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Do you have more info about what you did?
What about this?
I found this little circuit that supposose to go behind the battery and improbes the anthena range, anyone knows if it thuth?
http://www.deremate.com.ar/accdb/viewItem.asp?IDI=9968882
Hi gents,
I'm here in Vietnam and have used my XDA 1 for a long time. At first, I also faced the poor signal reception prolem but since I upgraded ROM and Radio stack, it seemed to be ok. Now I'm using Rom ver : 4.01.16 ENG/Radio ver: 4.21.00. Let's try it !
P/S: The Rom ver 4.01.16 along with Radio ver 6.25 but my advise is that you insert Program B (include 4.21.00) into Program A (4.01.16) before upgrade. Good luck ! If there's any problem, pls send and YM: gooseberry_hn
I'm still seraching a hardware solution
At the time of the "shame" (went to a beach trip with my friends, and I lost the signal all day until I hit the road back), I was using stack version 6.02, now I'm using version 6.25.20, untill now I have experience no diferences in reception, I feel tempted to buy the cirkuit to improbe reception (just U4s 2) , but it must go behind the batery, so I must disasemble the Wallaby, anyone has experience doing that?, is it easy to do?
Yes, I have a circuit for you <Note that the instruction in Vietnamese>
Hey folks. I had a quick question if someone'd be so kind to oblige. I have a siemens sx-56, and i just upgraded to the special edition rom from this website. This phone was originally for AT&T and the only carrier supported by this rom was the TMobile. I have a cingular sim card. As of right now, i've unlocked the sim on the phone, but I'm not picking up any phone signal. Is there a way for me to use this on the cingular network? Will I have to upgrade my rom to the newest one that's running WM2003? Props to the developers of the special edition rom. I love all the software that it comes with. Thank you, and have a good one.
I have ROM 4.02.04 and rsu A20. If I want to install/try 6.25 do I (1) connect my PPC to my desk top via USB, (2) activate/connect Activesync, then (3) simply download 6.25?
RSU Update
Yes, download all files and copy them to your Windows folder on the pocket PC, ensure that the machinne is craddled so power supply wont be an issue, then explore the windows dir in the pocket using Commander CE or whatever you have and run the EXE file to begin updating, do not place anything in the starup folder.
Thanks. I'd like to to all that, but:
1. I can't find the windows folder on my Pocket PC. (I can find the windows folder on my desktop.)
2. If I can't find the windows folder in the Pocket PC, I can't explore the Windows dir in the Pocket PC.
3. I don't have Commander CE, but do have 'File Explorer'.
Sorry I am not very good at this, but I am trying and really appreciate you help and patience.
By the way, I am running WM2003 and Rom 4.02.04. Is there any advantage to (a) going back to WM2002 with XDA 1.2 or (2) upgrading further to WM2003SE?
Skip
Find the Folder
You can find the Windows folder with File Explorer, you have to select My Device in the upside bar of the Explorer, then the Windows folder will apear in the bottom.
Sticking with a 2002 version will prevent you from running a lot of programs designed for the PPC2003, one of them, MS Voice Command is one that make's the diference between this machinne and a normal celular phone (you can control the entire unit using your voice, not just make calls). This program will eat most of you 32MB of RAM, so you gonna have to install everything in a SD card, and you'll have to make a backup copy of that storage card, becouse the unit tends, from time to time, to delete the SD card (specially after a RSU update!).
If you want to go to the 2002 version and then to the 4.01.16 or somefhing like that, some people wrote that going that way you avoid errors in the flashing process, my advice?, update the RSU if you have a minor version than the 6.x, otherwise, its asking for trouble.
If you ever update a computer BIOS using the disquette process then go ahead, otherwise... good luck man.
OK, thanks. I found the folder and the exe. I think I'm ready to give it a try.
Looks like I'm ok with 2003 for now as it has some features I like. I'll keep your instructions in case I decide to try MS Voice Command.
Again, appreciate your help. Skip
6.25 loaded fine and is working. However, I see very little improvement in signal strength. Side by side with my wife's Samsung, she gets a steady 4-5 bars while I get 0 to, at most, 2.bars.
I assume the real problem is the Wallaby antenna design. Does anyone have any mods that improve antenna sensitivity?
Greetings all,
I am an old Nortel NI engineer working in a Verizon switch room. My specialty is the Nortel CDMA platform, including the data equipment as well. I sit in a room where a toy cell provides a super signal so I am ideally suited to test this stuff. Mostly I am working on the dreaded data drop problem that we are having with the 3.27 radio, and so far I am finding that there is a problem, but not too bad and I am not finished gathering data. The device I will log into on a slow night is called the RNC, which is the box that controls, connects, and administers to the DOMs at the sites. So far I find that running 3.27 and SelectRadio I do get random dropps and reconnects, however with Resco Pocket Radio I do not seem to have the drops at all, well at least for the last 30 minutes that I have been listening to it. SelectRadio would drop sometimes in 1 minute and sometimes in 3 minutes but would never go over 4 minutes and sometimes would not be able to get going on its own. Resco is not at 32 minutes and not a drop or glitch. I am not sure why as i have not logged into the RNC to monitor what is happening with the session, but either Resco pre-buffers a lot farther ahead, which would make the connection outage come back before you run out of data, or perhaps Resco keeps the session alive by constantly pushing traffig up the reverse link, like an internet 'keep alive' program and SelectRadio may not do this, allowing the session to go 'dormant' state. This is very possible scenario as the dormant state is valid and a means of bandwidth management. If the system does not see a handshake within a certain time, triggered by the mobile as set by a timer value in the radio, it will put the mobile in a dormant session state. What I will do when I get some time is launch WMWIFIRouter and hook to my laptop or just teather with ICS and ping Yahoo for a very long period of time, or perhaps run a net keep alive on the laptop and stream XM thru it and see if it dies.
Anyone running Resco Pocket Radio out there getting better results than they do with SelectRadio ?????
I will keep this thread up until I get a log from the RNC and we will know what exactly is happening, but I vote for a timer value getting altered in the new Radio build that is giving trouble.
Umm, have Verizon task you to find the problem?
If so, what will you do to fix it? If not, is there any way for you to modify a radio driver as it exist now without have access to source code? Why would they modify any setting that already work fine by just upgrade to Rev.A and GPS?
Now, when I run the 3.27 radio, maybe 1 time in 50 time I have perfect connection to my VPN in Japan. There is no trouble at all on that occurrence. I can stay connect for hours. BUT, 49 times out of 50, I will be random disconnect every 3 or 4 minutes, sometimes as short as 20 seconds. If I got lucky by the 1 in 50 chance, I will have no trouble. So, how can it be "timer" issue? I think that it may be an incompatibility with the network and the EVDO Rev.A that is brought in by the 3.27 driver. If nothing else change but sometimes the data connection works fine, then obviously something else is happening.
I have never use 3.27 radio on non WinMo 6.1 ROM and I have also never use WinMo 6.1 on 1.40 or 1.47 radio either. Couldn't this be a WinMo 6.1 issue as well?
The bottom line is, 3.27 radio driver and random disconnects are correlated, but what is the cause? It may be any number of things, please check it and tell us the result, like you said - if you can.
Thanks,
Hiromitsu
More data and a file to examine
Attached is a log from the DOM/RNC connection between my unit and the network and what is going on. Someone else please feel free to offer any analysis you would care to but it looks like with SelectRadio running here is what happens: The session never dies even when the audio skips and SelectRadio re-connects, but what happens is that the PPP session (RN session) breaks and gets renewed, the session stays and does not go dormant. When it finally gets the 'tuner error' the PPP dropps and does not recover, and the session goes dormant. The interesting thing is that clicking another channel or launching any other program brings the session out of dormant and renews the PPP connection. Resco Pocket Radio never dies for me, and I can tether to my PC either with cable or Wi-Fi and ping yahoo.com until the battery dies and never skip a beat. I am thinking that a parm in the new radio ROM has been tweaked either for power management or for making REV-A or GPS work better and maybe they did not realize that it would effect the streaming media like it has, and as I said Resco does not crap out but SelectRadio does very badly. I am not finished yet, but I would like to get a ping utility, ftp, telnet, both client and daemons for my device so maybe I can run a long ping to somewhere while running SelectRadio to see if that helps. So anyone out there have this stuff ????? i will be looking and test more and attach more logs when I get these. Keep Moving Forward.
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I am useing SelectRadio and Resco Pocket Radio in the unit as test software. Listening to SelectRadio tab is Radioio channel 70's Rock 128kbps, and it drops like a rock regularly. I am now teathered with WMWIFIrouter 0.95 and on the Radioio web page and streaming the same channel on my PC for the last 30 minutes without so much as a skip. Useing NetPerSec to monitor the connection shows 136.1k average download and 3.9 k average upload speed, so I am leaning towards a compatibility issue between the SelectRadio app not keeping the network alive. This as I have said before might be a trim of a timer or a power management change in the ROM or radio ROM. Just more food for thought. Anyone feel free to chime in with results or ways for me to persue this.
And No I only work for Verizon in the switchroom, I was not tasked by them to look into this, it is a personal quest.
Perhaps this is whats holding up the sprint rom. If this is so,then its good news,as it implies that it may be fixed in the final release.
results from tonight, interesting
Greetings all,
Tonight sitting in the switchroom I loaded up VxUTIL and started pinging yahoo.com 99999999 times once per second and launched SelectRadio on the usual station aand got some interesting results. First, the pings went flawlessly and never missed a ping, SelectRadio dropped out as usual 2 or 3 times then got the 'tuner error' message as usual, but as I said the ping never skipped a beat nor in the network did the PPP session fall down. Resco Pocket Radio clicks along without ever skipping as usual with or without the pinging going on. Next test is for me to find the URL for the channel I am testing with in SelectRadio and get it imported into Resco Pocket Radio and see what happens. Anyone know how to get the URL for Radioio channels ??????? I will find this and post back.
Maybe try to load on your PC in WinAMP or something, then examine the .pls file?
One way to find the URL is to use the Titan's WIFI, and run tcpdump or equivalent on the wireless router or one connected to it. Assuming you have that capability.
Also, maybe your fancy CDMA gear has an option like that.
Did it and very interesting
Heres some more food for thought. I got the URL and loaded it up in Resco and played it at the same time as SelectRadio and though there was a time shift between the streams, each could be heard at the same time. Anoying, yes. Revealing, yes. The same stream stayed up in Resco but dropped out and reconnected and eventually got tuner error in SelectRadio as Resco clicked right along. So although the bad performance of SelectRadio is related to the REV-A radio and ROM upgrade, it is a problem with SelectRadio and how it handles a stream differently from Resco that makes it a problem. It is important to note that the actual data session and PPP stay up and will not drop as long as the net is kept alive. The dormant state was caused by SelectRadio dropping the connection, as opposed to the connection dropping and halting SelectRadio.
When I go in tonight during the maintenance window I will turn off the REV-A on the toy cell and see if the problem with SelectRadio stays or goes.
I don't mean to play devils advocate or be the ass here cuz i'm sure you're working hard....but from what i can see....all that you've proven is that there's an issue with SelectRadio dropping the connection. That is all well and good for people who care about streaming radio on their phone because they'll all make sure to use resco, but that still does absolutely nothing for the tons of people out there ready to punch a hole in their wall because their connection craps out while on aim, or surfing the web, or using their slingbox. Luckily, my connection doesn't drop all that often, every once in a while, but I've read countless other posts with people losing their connection quite frequently while using many other programs that use the data network.
Actually you are helping
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I don't mean to play devils advocate or be the ass here cuz i'm sure you're working hard....but from what i can see....all that you've proven is that there's an issue with SelectRadio dropping the connection. That is all well and good for people who care about streaming radio on their phone because they'll all make sure to use resco, but that still does absolutely nothing for the tons of people out there ready to punch a hole in their wall because their connection craps out while on aim, or surfing the web, or using their slingbox. Luckily, my connection doesn't drop all that often, every once in a while, but I've read countless other posts with people losing their connection quite frequently while using many other programs that use the data network.
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This is what I am looking for, some feedback from others on the issue as I work on it here because I thought that my experience with SelectRadio was an example and good test platform for the problem. From what you are saying perhaps I am not having the same problem, or maybe not as extreme, as those complaining about it. Sort of like those who said their bluetooth quit after flashing this ROM, or their WiFi, or some other stuff, when none of that stuff broke in mine. Maybe I do not have this problem either so am spinning my wheels as far as helping those who do. So then if tell me what program is dropping in your case and I will load it up in mine and see if I can duplicate it in mine, if Slingplayer then I would need a server to log into as I do not have one myself. If anyone is near where I am and having the problem then I can log into the RNC here while you are on the network and do a data audit to see whats happening. Another thing is do a ##debug and watch particularly if the session goes dormant or if it goes null when the data loss is perceived, as this will help too. Thanks and keep those comming as I do aim to help and have the network at my disposal and all the diagnostic tools it posseses to figure this out.
Well, For me it's using the FTP over at PPC geeks.... Goto their site while tethering to your laptop, and try to download any ROM or the Kaiser OEM file(it's like 90megs). One time it hung at 9 megabytes, I restarted it, hung at 9 again, did that like 5 straight times.... A second time, it hung at 16.0 megs, 6 straight tries..... weird..... On a few occasions, it actually got the whole file.....
I think downloading large files is a really good consistent test to see flaws in the radio.
You speak of resco... Have you tried running the resco update utility? Any time I would run that to download an update on 3.27 radio it would ALWAYS freeze and pretty much require a reboot.
Also, to comment on the wm6.1 thing someone said previously... dcd just released 1.7.0 rom that works with 1.40 radio and I've been using it with 0 data problems/drops. There is def a problem with the 3.27 radio and I don't think it's related to wm6.1...
I'm using the "stock" leaked rom with the 3.27 radio and I have the problem too.
Yes, WM6.1 is no problem. It is problem by 3.27 radio for sure.
Try to make a virtual private network connection across ocean, and you will have big trouble by 3.27 radio. Next, my american friend tell me he can't play online game with 3.27 radio for disconnect randomly and major LAG. So, if you want a good "test" maybe try online game or VPN.
Goodluck!
Hiromitsu
my gps is out more than a kilometre (a little less than a mile)
any ideas? i am using gpsviewer and tomtom6
i have dcd 2.3.1 rom
3.27 radio
any ideas?
ack
out? You mean it's off by more than a mile?
If so... someone's cloned your phone? :/ donno sorry.
dieseldennis said:
my gps is out more than a kilometre (a little less than a mile)
any ideas? i am using gpsviewer and tomtom6
i have dcd 2.3.1 rom
3.27 radio
any ideas?
ack
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That is a trip. So you are a mile away using Tom Tom?
Because if you where using Google Maps or Microsoft Live Search it would make sense because they tend to use agps (Cellular Towers) first to try and find your location and then they use the GPS receiver.
It might be the baud rate.... who knows. Or maybe just try to wait until it locks to at least 4 satellites for a better accurate read.
yeah it is a bit of a trip........
sometimes i get up to 6 7 or 8 sat locked on and im still out just as much.
im downloading iguidance right now im hoping its a mapping prob with tomtom.............i googled it and other people are having simular map issues with tomtom6.
wish me luck
anyone running iguidance ? any instal tips anyone has id appreciate it
Mine is perfect
I am useing the same as you and mine is bang on, i mean right to the foot nearly.
dieseldennis said:
yeah it is a bit of a trip........
sometimes i get up to 6 7 or 8 sat locked on and im still out just as much.
im downloading iguidance right now im hoping its a mapping prob with tomtom.............i googled it and other people are having simular map issues with tomtom6.
wish me luck
anyone running iguidance ? any instal tips anyone has id appreciate it
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That sucks man. Hopefully iguidance works for you. I have Tom Tom Navigator 6 and havent had any issues with it. I hear it sucks for rural places. That is why sometimes people use Garmin.
I wasn't able to replicate your results thus I cannot resolve this. But feel free to let us know how iguidance is. I haven't tried it.
Perhaps your in a linear superposition of two position eigenstates. When your gps takes a measurement your wave function collapses to one or the other. If there are two different routes to the local store,you could try going shopping and see if you interfere with yourself when you arrive. ;-)
I am using tomtom ,igo and destinator and they perform just as well if nto better then my bluetooth gps receiver.
dieseldennis said:
my gps is out more than a kilometre (a little less than a mile)
any ideas? i am using gpsviewer and tomtom6
i have dcd 2.3.1 rom
3.27 radio
any ideas?
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soft reset...was happening to me..hadn't had to soft reset in like 3 days..did a soft reset and was good. my problem was that gps kept connecting quickly...but its active location was like 1-2 miles from where i actually was...
soft resetting usually does a phone good anyway, I usually soft reset when i wake up.
btw my sprint Navigation is "Dead Nut" I drove to this real exclusive part of Truckee to do an estimate and it put me right to the peoples front door....AND IT WAS A NEW HOUSE!!!
Had this happen to me once...more than a mile actually, nearly oh, 6km or so. I tried to soft reset, multiple times and it didn't do jack. (Was using Google maps.) I just left it, as in, didn't play with the GPS for a day cause I got frustrated trying to fix it and lo and behold, it worked again. So...shrug, don't fret over it unless its ALWAYS a mile off...
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Try the things in this thread. it worked for me... I am using Delorme Street Atlas for now because I already own it & am to cheap to pay for the internet on my phone... And it was always off by alot.. Then I tried the baffles sw & it worked... And now I'm trying the VisualGPSce & it appears to work better even... It even shows me in the backyard vs the front yard.
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=17032
Different GPS problems
When your GPS gives you the wrong location, it can only fall into 2 categories.
Satellite Signal-Signals have been known to do all sorts of weird things. You are dealing with a very weak signal when you use GPS and it is prone to bouncing off of all sorts of things. This "bouncing" delays the arrival at your receiver and causes your location to be off.
Software-Software can be the second issue. This can either be the mapping software(such TomTom) or it can be a computational error. Your GPS is pinpointing your location by comparing "clocks". Sometimes it can 'flub' and make a mistake, but this is extremely rare.
Given that you were CONSTANTLY off by 1 mile, I would feel safe assuming that this was a software issue. I would test multiple mapping systems(especially Google Maps).
If you are using your GPS is an area with high buildings, hills, or inside of a building you might notice "jumping".
Telenav works perfectly and has data assisted location.
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Maybe there is something wrong with your phones GPS chip. As I use QuickGPS, Astrolauncher, and TomTom 6 and I am right on every time....
I've benn having issues with the Garmin Mobile XT... I have now the Sprint 3.56.651 ROM AND 3.42.30 RADIO...
when I run Garmin it automatically detects satellites without any other GPS aplication (GPSProxy, GPSGate o others...) but it only locks 3 satellites and it doesn't give me my position...
Is there something i'm doing wrong?? what do I need to get this thing working???
The big answer that you have not provided is if any other application returns the same GPS performance. Garmin, as others, only receives the data as provided by the GPSOne chipset, and I cannot see any reason why it could cripple that data.
Try again with a diagnostic app such as VisualGPSce. What you describe sounds like a rather common problem with the Titan in that it is seeing a few satellites but fails to lock-on to them and that is why you cannot determine your position. In a clearing outside, wait up to a half hour.. Try GC's QPST GPS hack.. Etc.. Garmin is unlikely to be the issue.
all right...
I already did the GPS Hack with QPST... I already waited for like 2 hours (I was washing my car) and it did lock up to 6 satellites but it still didn't give me my position...
I installed GPSProxy, GPSGate and many others but I have problems on that applications... first it doesn't show me any satellite, after 10-15 seconds it shows me like 10-15 satellites on the screen but only for a second or so and then they disappear again... this happens in a loop, it shows me the 10-15 satellites for a second, it waits for 10-15 seconds and then it shows them on the screen again for a second..........
I'm going to try VisualGPSce to see if I have any luck... i'll keep you posted...
I am running latest radio and dcd's rom with Garmin Mobile XT on VZW with the GPS Hack with QPST and get locks within 30 secs and 7 to 9 sats.
Not sure if that helps or not.
what radio are you runing?? i have 3.42.30
I don't understand what everyone is doing. I am running Garmin Mobile XT myself, and have been for a couple of months. With the Newest radio rom, and DCD 3.2, I have no problems locking sats. Normally when I start the program, by the time it's up and running, I have a lock on enough sats to get the bars all green. It's just that fast. Not sure what your doing wrong.
I run Garmin Mobile XT with absolutely no problems on VZW.
P.S. I still prime with HTC GPS Tool prior to opening Garmin.
ok still no luck...
are you selecting the GPS on Garmin as COM4:COM4: or as GPS Intermediate Driver??
GPS Intermediate Driver
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using Baf's GPS toggler cooked into 19588 rom set to standalone in registry
meaning no assisted gps radio 3.42.30. Locks in less than a minute while inside house. Using Garmin Mobile XT.
Chemdawg said:
I don't understand what everyone is doing. I am running Garmin Mobile XT myself, and have been for a couple of months. With the Newest radio rom, and DCD 3.2, I have no problems locking sats. ... It's just that fast. Not sure what your doing wrong.
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Careful in rushing to blame user error. Some Titans -- regardless of software settings -- just cannot match the GPS performance of other Titans. I've witnessed this myself with two Titans side-by-side. Sadly, it can be a luck of the draw...
The repeating loop of flipping back and forth between the same sets of satellites often occurs when the chipset is stuck in standby mode, so a resolution is to soft-reset the Titan. nelsongruebr's description of satellite "locks" are probably not locks but basic reception of the visible satellites before a lock - if ever - is attained. The description here of poor performance is very similar to what had stumped me on some Titans... Sadly, there may be no resolution.
I've been running Garmin Mobile for about a month on no2chem's 5067 rom and I have not had problems. I don't have to do anything other than open Garmin and within 30 seconds, I have a lock. At first, I was using the 3.39.10 radio and now I'm using 3.42.30.
so basically maybe my Titan can never be used for GPS? or maybe doing a hard reset or flashing another ROM?
Today I tried to get a lock by letting the GPS Intermediate Driver search for satellites on Garmin Mobile XT for quiet some time and had no luck... it could not even find one single satellite...
On the other hand, when I activated the COM4:COM4: it find 3 satellites, it locked to them but didn't give me a fix or a position...
I installed GPSVisualce... First it did find some satellites, like seven of them but after a couple of seconds it loose them... but I checked the coordinates that it marked and they were pretty close to where I was... so maybe it is user problem... maybe I'm missing something...
So I bring up these new questions:
What version of Garmin Mobile XT are you using?
Is somebody with the same ROM and RADIO having the same problem? (Sprint 3.56.651.0 Radio 3.42.30)
Should I flash another ROM?
thanks!!!
You need to prime the GPS first before running Garmin.
Prime it with HTC GPS Tool or GPSViewer. Once it locks, close the primer and open Garmin. Go into settings and Disable COM4:COM4, then click GPS Intermediate Driver, then click Enable.
Your problem should not be the ROM, Radio, or Garmin XT. Keep playing around with VisualGPSce as it's quick and easy to configure to use the appropriate port and will give you an easy reference as to how many satellites are seen and the number of those that a lock is made on.
Beyond that and attempting GC's QPTS GPS edit, place the blame on your hardware. The description you've given on your Titan seeing some satellites, possibly locking, and then losing then is all too familiar to what I've experienced with another Titan. You're not alone.
Problem solved!!!!
yesterday I hard reset my device and after that just installed VisualGPSce and Garmin Mobile Xt so I can try it without any other software...
I went to my house and right where I was about to go to sleep I put my Titan on his Charging cradle and open VisualGPSce and then opened Garmin Mobile XT and leave it there on my night stand all night... to my surprise when I woke up it had a lock on 7 satellites!!!! on my nighstand!!!
I supposed it needed to get a lock for some time since I'm in Venezuela and I supose it was going to be harder to lock from anther country than to lock in the US...
Thanks to everyone who posted here and tried to helped me!!!!
Excellent! Yes, when the cell network assistance feature of AGPS isn't available, for some reason the chipset on our Titans can take quite a while to download the satellite ephemeris data directly from the satellites. Though I think that you're one of the first who's recorded it requiring more than a half hour!
hehe!! i'll say more than 5 hours, cause when I saw the time data on Garmin it said that the stopped time was only like an hour and a half, so it took mora than 5 hours to get that lock...
But I think I spoke to early, yesterday when I got out of work I wanted to try to get a lock to see how long it takes, but to my surprise it didn't locked on any satellites!! not even one!! I left it again overnight and nothing!! so I'm back to zero :'(
I'll be informing you how it behaves today...
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Careful in rushing to blame user error. Some Titans -- regardless of software settings -- just cannot match the GPS performance of other Titans. I've witnessed this myself with two Titans side-by-side. Sadly, it can be a luck of the draw...
The repeating loop of flipping back and forth between the same sets of satellites often occurs when the chipset is stuck in standby mode, so a resolution is to soft-reset the Titan. nelsongruebr's description of satellite "locks" are probably not locks but basic reception of the visible satellites before a lock - if ever - is attained. The description here of poor performance is very similar to what had stumped me on some Titans... Sadly, there may be no resolution.
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I am a newbie here but as a computer engineer I totally agree. We buy many PCs, scanners, printers, etc. all of the same brand. I can have several of the exact same items on the bench and so will not do as the identical sister/brother unit will do. My theory as a tech has been Bubba went to work mad at his wife and said what the hell I am going to just throw this crap together. Then on the flip side you have the new guy wanting to make a good impression and he spends 2 hours on one product where he should have gotten out four in that same two hours...
I think it depends on the device as well...just luck of the purchase...
ok, i kinda figure out what was the problem...
As I told you before, I live in Caracas, Venezuela... and recently the government decided to change the hour (yeah I know... What the hell where they thinking) from GMT -4.00 Caracas, La Paz, to GMT -4.30 Caracas... so Microsoft created a Patch to add the new Time Zone for Caracas... I have been installing this patch for about a year now without a problem (i had previously a HTC Touch and a HTC Excalibur) without any problems... So i instal it on my Titan and thats it...
To my surprise when i did a hard reset to delete everything and installed only Garmin Mobile and VirtualGPSce tha GPS work flawlessly... I said Great!!! It work's!!! so I installed the aplications that I normally have on my Titan INCLUDING the Patch for the New Timezone, and here is where the fun begins... the GPS stop working!!!! I didn't know it was the Time Zone patch until i performed another Hard Reset and Installed only a few aplications and the GPS kept working perfectly...
Today I'm going to install ALL the aplications that I use except the Patch to see if that does the trick...
I'll be posting tonight to tell you how it goes...
Hello, I am currently living in Frankfurt and I am trying to make GPS work but with no success, not even with footprints! I get no signal anywhere!! I used the GPS in Meinz successfully but I cannot use it in Frankfurt... I tried to run quickGPS first and then the GPS program or footprints but I can never get signal...
I am using this rom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=721438&highlight=naked
the 23569 built.
If you have any ideas please tell me
Thank you
Footprints is nothing more than GPS photography.
Do you have a lot of tall buildings aroud in frankfurt where you try to init the GPS device?
Is there a broadcating item near you? (Cell phone antenna, TV station, Powerlines)
Do you have a navigation program?
What do the GPS diagnostics say (how many Satalites are "in view", what is the stability of the signal)
No GPS
I had a problem like this and eventually had to get a new phone. The GPS chip was faulty. GPS worked well for a while then became very sketchy then stopped altogether. Sounds more like this is your problem rather than no GPS signal in Frankfurt.
Wilco said:
Footprints is nothing more than GPS photography.
Do you have a lot of tall buildings aroud in frankfurt where you try to init the GPS device?
Is there a broadcating item near you? (Cell phone antenna, TV station, Powerlines)
Do you have a navigation program?
What do the GPS diagnostics say (how many Satalites are "in view", what is the stability of the signal)
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well, I mostly try to use GPS in the center of Frankfurt where there are many skyscrapers. In my hotel room there is a TV but even if I leave the phone by the window, it still cant get any signal. which GPS diagnostics are you talking about? can you redirect me to that program?
Ross202 said:
I had a problem like this and eventually had to get a new phone. The GPS chip was faulty. GPS worked well for a while then became very sketchy then stopped altogether. Sounds more like this is your problem rather than no GPS signal in Frankfurt.
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Thats not the case, because I tried GPS 2 days ago in Meinz and it was working perfectly.
jardan said:
well, I mostly try to use GPS in the center of Frankfurt where there are many skyscrapers. In my hotel room there is a TV but even if I leave the phone by the window, it still cant get any signal. which GPS diagnostics are you talking about? can you redirect me to that program?
Thats not the case, because I tried GPS 2 days ago in Meinz and it was working perfectly.
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Have you used the trial copilot allready?
If not, you can start Copilot, go into settings, GPS, this will inform you if it sees any sattelites, or none, and what is the signal strength.
You can also use HTC GPS tool, showing output from GPS unit.
You can find it here
Wilco said:
Have you used the trial copilot allready?
If not, you can start Copilot, go into settings, GPS, this will inform you if it sees any sattelites, or none, and what is the signal strength.
You can also use HTC GPS tool, showing output from GPS unit.
You can find it here
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well, I havent used copilot because it is not in this rom. I run the HTC gps tool and there are many satellites available, but I get an Mode 2: Fix not available. I have no idea what it means and I couldnt find anything in google. also I get a message "failed to send NMEA command.." and I also cantfind anything. under information tab, besides the "mode 2" message everything else is 0. under satellite tab there are many red dots representing satellites. what else should I look?
port is 4 and baud is 4800.
I will try it also tomorrow in open space.
The red dots come from QUICKGPS.
These are the locations where the satelites should be.
The fact they are red means none have been detected / fixed
The signal 0 in combination with red dots means: GPS cannot detect any satelites.
I was hoping you would have at least 1 or 2 "green" or at least signals.
I can only see two possibilities:
Reception is very, very bad (since you mention beeing in hotel, putting near window can help, dut does not nessesarily help as windows can have special coatings, or there is to much interference from WAN/GSM/UMTS (and the likes)traffic)
You could go outside, preferably to a park or big terrace where the buildings are somewhat more spaced, and check again.
If everything still remains red, 0 signal there is a possibility your GPS Unit does not work (properly) (bad antenna connection eg)
You really need to try on a few places. If possible go to the country and check how many satelites can be fixed there, if in the open you als get a minimal fix (lots of sattelites staying red, no signal) Your GPS Unit probably works badly.
(eg: if antenna is bad/disconnected, you probably will get some sat fixes, but not all)
Good luck trying.
you are right, I tried it outside and it is working. I dont know if HTC GPS tool did something, because before I installed it GPS was not working. Now, when I am at the street it works, but it doesnt not work in my hotel room or inside any other building, which is strange, because in Meinz it worked in the house.. Anyway, thank you for your help!