my gps is out more than a kilometre (a little less than a mile)
any ideas? i am using gpsviewer and tomtom6
i have dcd 2.3.1 rom
3.27 radio
any ideas?
ack
out? You mean it's off by more than a mile?
If so... someone's cloned your phone? :/ donno sorry.
dieseldennis said:
my gps is out more than a kilometre (a little less than a mile)
any ideas? i am using gpsviewer and tomtom6
i have dcd 2.3.1 rom
3.27 radio
any ideas?
ack
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That is a trip. So you are a mile away using Tom Tom?
Because if you where using Google Maps or Microsoft Live Search it would make sense because they tend to use agps (Cellular Towers) first to try and find your location and then they use the GPS receiver.
It might be the baud rate.... who knows. Or maybe just try to wait until it locks to at least 4 satellites for a better accurate read.
yeah it is a bit of a trip........
sometimes i get up to 6 7 or 8 sat locked on and im still out just as much.
im downloading iguidance right now im hoping its a mapping prob with tomtom.............i googled it and other people are having simular map issues with tomtom6.
wish me luck
anyone running iguidance ? any instal tips anyone has id appreciate it
Mine is perfect
I am useing the same as you and mine is bang on, i mean right to the foot nearly.
dieseldennis said:
yeah it is a bit of a trip........
sometimes i get up to 6 7 or 8 sat locked on and im still out just as much.
im downloading iguidance right now im hoping its a mapping prob with tomtom.............i googled it and other people are having simular map issues with tomtom6.
wish me luck
anyone running iguidance ? any instal tips anyone has id appreciate it
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That sucks man. Hopefully iguidance works for you. I have Tom Tom Navigator 6 and havent had any issues with it. I hear it sucks for rural places. That is why sometimes people use Garmin.
I wasn't able to replicate your results thus I cannot resolve this. But feel free to let us know how iguidance is. I haven't tried it.
Perhaps your in a linear superposition of two position eigenstates. When your gps takes a measurement your wave function collapses to one or the other. If there are two different routes to the local store,you could try going shopping and see if you interfere with yourself when you arrive. ;-)
I am using tomtom ,igo and destinator and they perform just as well if nto better then my bluetooth gps receiver.
dieseldennis said:
my gps is out more than a kilometre (a little less than a mile)
any ideas? i am using gpsviewer and tomtom6
i have dcd 2.3.1 rom
3.27 radio
any ideas?
ack
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soft reset...was happening to me..hadn't had to soft reset in like 3 days..did a soft reset and was good. my problem was that gps kept connecting quickly...but its active location was like 1-2 miles from where i actually was...
soft resetting usually does a phone good anyway, I usually soft reset when i wake up.
btw my sprint Navigation is "Dead Nut" I drove to this real exclusive part of Truckee to do an estimate and it put me right to the peoples front door....AND IT WAS A NEW HOUSE!!!
Had this happen to me once...more than a mile actually, nearly oh, 6km or so. I tried to soft reset, multiple times and it didn't do jack. (Was using Google maps.) I just left it, as in, didn't play with the GPS for a day cause I got frustrated trying to fix it and lo and behold, it worked again. So...shrug, don't fret over it unless its ALWAYS a mile off...
verkion
Try the things in this thread. it worked for me... I am using Delorme Street Atlas for now because I already own it & am to cheap to pay for the internet on my phone... And it was always off by alot.. Then I tried the baffles sw & it worked... And now I'm trying the VisualGPSce & it appears to work better even... It even shows me in the backyard vs the front yard.
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=17032
Different GPS problems
When your GPS gives you the wrong location, it can only fall into 2 categories.
Satellite Signal-Signals have been known to do all sorts of weird things. You are dealing with a very weak signal when you use GPS and it is prone to bouncing off of all sorts of things. This "bouncing" delays the arrival at your receiver and causes your location to be off.
Software-Software can be the second issue. This can either be the mapping software(such TomTom) or it can be a computational error. Your GPS is pinpointing your location by comparing "clocks". Sometimes it can 'flub' and make a mistake, but this is extremely rare.
Given that you were CONSTANTLY off by 1 mile, I would feel safe assuming that this was a software issue. I would test multiple mapping systems(especially Google Maps).
If you are using your GPS is an area with high buildings, hills, or inside of a building you might notice "jumping".
Telenav works perfectly and has data assisted location.
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Maybe there is something wrong with your phones GPS chip. As I use QuickGPS, Astrolauncher, and TomTom 6 and I am right on every time....
Related
Does anyone have any suggestions from first hand experience? I have a GlobalSat BT-359 from my soon to be departed Nokia e61.
I've tried a few shareware apps for 'off road' stuff, hilwalking, etc. Useful for limited applications.
For road navigation.. Tomtom all the way for me Now using Navigator 6 with the Tomtom BT GPS. Its not the cheapest, but there are good deals out there and it works well.
I currently use tomtom6 but have used destinator in the past and its my prefered. This is in australia and the tomtom maps are not as detailed but they are more customizable with different voices and point of intererst etc. i believe the maps are done from local providers so tomtom for the states might be better.
Has anyone had any delay when intially starting TomTom 6?
I have TomTom 5.xx and it takes about a minute or more to load up.
Seems like iGuidance does the same (according to someone).
I'm going to try Wayfinder on a 5 day free trial for a project I have. I'll post results next week.
iNav iGuidance in my opinion
I've tried TomTom, iGuidance and iGo and my favorite by far is iGo.
Do you have a link to iGo and by chance have you tried it on a Hermes running WM6. I'm a long iGuidance user, like it alot, but right now it has several annoying issues with WM6 that need to be patched and currently there's no timeline on when iNav will fix it. I'd like to give iGo a Go
I use TomTom for road navigatoin and Anquet for off road (walking, and cycling)
Anquet is pricy! but it has OS mapping available for the entire UK, (and i believe its this OS map data thats has enforced the high price. most of the the UK is at 1/25k Which is idea for walking, (you can see trees marked and field boundrys.
The mapping app for the PPC in the early version was poor but the newer stuff is pretty good.
That said i have recently installed Gmaps. Google Maps free PPC app, if your in a 3G area its really quite fast to load, and being able to see satalite images (if the res is good enough where you are) is pretty cool. Driving in my car with it drawing Satalite photos clear enough to see cars on makes you feel like Jack Bower!
Gmaps will do point to point navigation too, and in the US it can pick up traffic infomation.
Wayfinder GPS Software Review
So I tried the free 5 day Wayfinder download. Here's how I see it:
1: The download was easy but getting it to work was another thing. 3 installs and 2 uninstalls later it came up.
2: You need to authenticate prior to first use. Authentication took about 5 attempts including having to ask for the code from tech support which delayed thing 24hrs. The code is supposed to be included according to the Readme but it wasn't. The code sent didn’t work and I finally authenticated when the software asked permission to do so by sending an sms to their server.
3. This application requires an internet connection to download maps, which means that if your connection is slow, good luck. If you loose the connection due to drop out or no service you are screwed. If you loose connection, you get a pop-up error message and the software seems to be no longer useable because you close the message but it keeps returning. The only option is to close the application.
4: The accuracy was good and the auto corrections worked well on a 32 mile drive home. I purposely took a different route to see how it would respond and I must say it reacted quickly and accurately.
5: The task bar is at the top of the screen and is very large, too large in fact. I couldn’t find a way to reduce the size or minimize it.
6: I couldn't get the screen zoom to show me the entire route. It wasn't as if I was going cross country, it was only 32 miles.
7: The search function worked very well. My office is in a good sized city but my home is almost in the middle of no where. It found both locations with no problem the first time. That's an advantage of an on-line service.
Finally, I worked with Rt66 on a Nokia e61 for a project. Rt66 supplies all of the maps in the application so you don't need to be on-line at all which is a good thing. Rt66 also plots your course with a line overlayed on the map. Wayfinder doesn’t. Rt66 seemed to have some quirks of its own but overall was a much more useable product.
The bottom line is that if you have a good signal all the time you are fine. Cingular does not have 100% coverage nationwide which means you may run into problems planning routes and using the system if you are in a low or no signal area. I think I'll stick to a maps-on-board program.
Lyle
Wayfinder GPS Software Review
So I tried the free 5 day Wayfinder download. Here's how I see it:
1: The download was easy but getting it to work was another thing. 3 installs and 2 uninstalls later it finally came up.
2: You need to authenticate prior to first use. Authentication took about 5 attempts including having to ask for the code from tech support which delayed thing 24hrs. The code is supposed to be included according to the Readme but it wasn't. The code sent didn’t work and I finally authenticated when the software asked permission to do so by sending an sms to their server.
3. This application requires an internet connection to download maps, which means that if your connection is slow, good luck. If you loose the connection due to drop out or no service you are screwed. If you loose connection, you get a pop-up error message and the software seems to be no longer useable because you close the message but it keeps returning. The only option is to close the application.
4: The search function worked very well. My office is in a good sized city but my home is almost in the middle of no where. It found both locations with no problem the first time. That's an advantage of an on-line service.
5: The accuracy was good and the auto corrections worked well on a 32 mile drive home. I purposely took a different route to see how it would respond and I must say it reacted quickly and accurately.
6: The task bar is at the top of the screen and is very large, too large in fact. I couldn’t find a way to reduce the size or minimize it.
7: I couldn't get the screen zoom to show me the entire route. It wasn't as if I was going cross country, it was only 32 miles.
Finally, I previously worked with Rt66 on a Nokia e61 for a work related project. Rt66 supplies all of the maps in the application so you don't need to be on-line at all which is a good thing. Rt66 also plots your course with a line overlayed on the map which I like. Wayfinder doesn’t. Rt66 seemed to have some quirks of its own but overall was a much more useable product. Would I go back to Rt66? Maybe but I need to check out the other map on0board applications first.
The bottom line for Wayfinder is that if you have a good signal all the time you are fine. Cingular does not have 100% coverage nationwide which means you may run into problems planning routes and using the system if you are in a low or no signal area. I think I'll stick to a maps-on-board program.
Lyle
RemE said:
Do you have a link to iGo and by chance have you tried it on a Hermes running WM6. I'm a long iGuidance user, like it alot, but right now it has several annoying issues with WM6 that need to be patched and currently there's no timeline on when iNav will fix it. I'd like to give iGo a Go
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I am running iGo on WM6 and it's flawless.
You can buy iGo here: http://www.i-go.com/en/
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Has anyone had any delay when intially starting TomTom 6?
I have TomTom 5.xx and it takes about a minute or more to load up.
Seems like iGuidance does the same (according to someone).
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I have had start-up freezes with Tomtom, but seems fine at the moment. I am using Black 3.0 ROM.
kwan said:
Has anyone had any delay when intially starting TomTom 6?
I have TomTom 5.xx and it takes about a minute or more to load up.
Seems like iGuidance does the same (according to someone).
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I had the same problem with TomTom 5 and Windows Mobile 5. When I upgraded the phone to Windows Mobile 6 TomTom ran super fast.
FYI TomTom 6 is even faster!~~
I tried TomTom6 for my trip down to New york, and Atlantic City all I can say its the best GPS software I've used period
it was paired it with i.Trek M5 GPS receiver
I use tomtom 6.03 on LVSW's WM6 ROM. in a word, WOW! awesome program, fast, and optimised for PDA use while driving.
yvrRome said:
You can buy iGo here: http://www.i-go.com/en/
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Where... I can't see any prices or buy now links???!!!!!
When it's about car navigation, I can recommend Tom Tom 6. I've tried Destinator, which I found more flexible, but the actual location dragged about 200meters so after I had driven past my exit did the arrow come to the spot.
Missed so many turns I ditched that POS.
I have used Route 66 on P910i, which is better than Destinator but doesn't give as much coverage of Finland as Tom tom 6.
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Where... I can't see any prices or buy now links???!!!!!
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Look at here
http://www.google.se/search?hl=sv&q=Buy+NavNGo&meta=
and the review of the iGO is here :
http://www.pocketgpsworld.com/iGo2006.php
and also take a look at theirs forum for usable tips how to configure voice commands for your satisfaction :
http://www.pocketgpsworld.com/modul...opic&t=41654&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0
Igo is def the best however it doesn't seem to work with wm6, goes really slow and eats up memory till you need to reset. Unfortunately I can't test it on my hermes as they don't do a microsd version.
I spoke to the tech guys there, who said that it worked, however I am not convinced as it still isn't on their list of compatible OS's.
So will adopt the wait and see.
Plus its locked to the card so sucks if you have more than one device, like I do.
Hi all , just got an Ameo (U.K T-Mobile version) and upgraded to Windows Mobile 6 Professional CE OS 5.2.1620 (Build 18125.0.4.2) official rom.
Everything works fine except GPS signal that really sucks!! I have red all topics carefully and i have set all parameters right such as COM 5 and baud 9600 but with Destinator 7 it does not fix satellite signal! It gets one satellite on cold start after 3-5 minutes and maybe some 2nd or 3rd but really UNSTABLE...so it loses fix and again from start.. Navigation is almost impossible!
Any suggestions please?Does someone else have the same problem maybe?..Or my device is faulty?Is it possible that Destinator 7 does not work fine with the built in GPS?I have tried external bluetooth gps on other port and baud and it goes fine!!6 satellites minimum 8-9 maximum and fast fix even on cold start.Is it possible that my ROM version is problematic?
ROM Version: 2.35.110.4
ROM Date : 10/09/07
Radio Version: 1.50.00.00
Protocol version: 32.83.7020.20H
I can never get a fix when it's in the faux-leather case, if that's any help... usually get a fix within 30s out of the case.
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I can never get a fix when it's in the faux-leather case, if that's any help... usually get a fix within 30s out of the case.
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agreed, i get better results though in faux leather case, but my primary case is a n aluminum case hahaha so i know my own problem. temp resolve was an external recvr
hahaha
Have you tried the reg change to enable GPS in Camera mode (to allow location metadata to be stored within the picture)? I find if the GPS is ever slow to start up, using this first of all to get a location seems to kick things into life. Also make sure your QuickGPS file is upto date.
For some reason mine is now getting a lock much quicker than ever it has been before. I normally start TT just before I set off and previously it was taking approximatly a mile of driving before getting a lock. Now, it only takes about 1/2 a mile - have the US done something to the signal, or has my Ameo now developed supercow powers?
I'm running the cooked rom v3, radio 1.5 and its in the leather wallet.
Crumbs - half a mile? I usually start CoPilot when i get in the car and by the time I've started moving i have a fix - I take it out f the case to put in my Brodit mount but even in the house in the case it doesn't take that long to get a fix!
It is TomTom !!!
giorgosp: Yes, I can conform the problem and it's driving me mad!
Flashed to the T-Mo ROM this week, as PK3 was giving problems connecting to WMDC (tried a hard reset initially, and no better )
The T-Mo ROM is good, and allows WMDC to connect well, but since flashing, I've been unable to obtain a valid GPS lock. Tried with GPSInfo and iGO2006. I get a couple of small bars, and nothing more. Today, I drove for 45minutes, and no lock at all. My Orbit2 sitting on the car seat with CPL got a lock in 20 seconds from cold.
Previously, I could get a lock within 2 minutes if stationary, and about 10 minutes if moving (I live in a region with lots of windy country lanes, so rarely see the same bit of sy for more than a few seconds!), so this does seem to be an issue with the T-Mo radio.
..and further to the above, I've just downgraded the Radio to V1.47 (which means hard reset), and taken both the Orbit 2 and the Ameo outside- Orbit2 got a full fix in 30 seconds, and Ameo 30 seconds later (so 1min TTFF from cold, which is the best I've yet seen!)
Don't know if going back to radio 1.50 will keep the improvement, but I'm tempted to keep it as it is
im running 1.50 in a pawell rom and it's all good !! I think T-mo have messed things up !
So NeilM do you suggest me to downgrade radio version to 1.47?how many satellites is reaching to fix? ..to get a valid signal i think at least 4 and stable,right?
To all of you using other than the official t-mobile 2.35 rom with radio 1.50: how many sat signals do you achieve to fix using athena with the leather case under normal condition? does the radio version impact on gps signal so much?
I tried reverting to radio V1.50 and same problem, so at least in my Ameo there is a problem with the new T-Mo ROM, Radio 1.50 and the GPS receiver.
Went back to 1.47, and this morning got a cold TTFF in 1 minute.
You need 3 satelites for a 2D fix- locates at ground level, and 4 for a 3D fix, which includes altitude.
From a cold boot, the 1st sat signal takes a while, but it then provides almanac info for any other in its vicinity. As the reciver gets more almanac info it builds a picture of the sky, then the ephemeral data is downloaded.
Once almanac info is obtained, you will see the short bars in GPS apps; once ephemeris is obtained the bars turn dark, or change colour and when you have 3 of those, navigation can commence.
I can't advise you to change the radio version, especially as it needs a hard reset, but can only repeat that it worked for me, here in East Anglia, using the Ameo on Orange.
Neilm,when reverted to radio 1.50 have you used the t-mobile rom or have you used only the radio cab provided by forum?even if my question seems silly i was thinking that maybe a file of those included in t-mobiles 2.35 rom radio 1.50 is problematic??so have you flashed only the radio version back to 1.50 or the entire rom (including t-mob radio 1.50)?
So you suggest change to 1.47?i understand that hard reset is unpleasant setup from beginning but having a dead gps after paying so much for this device is worse.. Could some expert please find this issue..?
..guys i live in rome and i tried everything..it gets 1 sat fix after 3 minutes and upon gets a second one it looses both of them..my ameo is like without gps.. only when i use an external bt i-blue i can use it.. but i bought this mobile for not carrying 200 things with me.. :-(
I used the Radio only link, not the whoe T-Mo ROM, so it seems, for me at least, that it is the radio version, rather than where it comes from.
If you don't mind doing a hard rest, I'd say try it I can't say it will work, because it seems there are a number of factors which I don't understand. Some users have GPS working OK with this ROM and radio 1.50.
My personal experience is that radio 1.47 works much better for me, both for GPS and WiFi, and the phone reception is no worse. Battery use seems about the same.
Are you in Rome city centre? If so, have you tried going to a more open space to get a 1st fix? High density buildings can give a poor view of the sky, and give some 'multipath' interference, which can prevent a proper fix.
Athena GPS Quickconnect can't find anything else vaguely apprnnect
Firstly, sorry to hijack this thread, but I couldn't find anything else appropriate.
Relevant to this thread: I have no problems with my current hard/firm/software combo and GPS connect time. It is about 2-3 mins without a current quickconnect file, but fine with both TomTom 6 and VisualGPSce.
Does anyone know what the antenna hardware is like for the GPS radio in Athena? Is it inbuilt to the semiconductor hardware or is there something else? If there is a physical antenna it could be broken? Try attaching an external bluetooth/USB receiver or external antenna. If one works it can only be the antenna or the GPS hardware at fault, right?
My problem
GPS quick connect will no longer connect through 802.11 wifi, bluetooth activesync or USB activesync. The only thing to have changed is that I briefly enabled and then disabled GPRS wifi. Although the settings for GPRS/WAP have been disabled and in network settings the option for 'programs that use the internet automatically' is set to 'my work network', GPSquickconnect still seems to be using my GPRS service provider (which cannot be deleted).
I know a hard reset will resolve this but it would be nice to know if anyone else has come across this and found a reg tweak to remove the service providers in the drop down connections list.
Thanks is advance.
I'm just posting because lately I've discovered a pretty nice little trick for our beloved bittersweet GPS.
As most of you know, sometimes the GPS likes to think for itself and decide whether it wants to lock sats quickly or painfully slowly. Same goes for me, sometimes I get a lock within seconds, sometimes it takes 5-10 minutes (all the time using GPSViewer to cold start it first).
Well, for the past week I've been using WiFiFoFum while I'm driving to track AP's while using the GPS function to log long. and lat. and collect them into a merged kml file for Google Earth. When I first enabled the GPS function in WiFiFoFum, I noticed that I got a fix and lock almost instantaneously, not even using GPSViewer (my GPS had not been used for at least over 24 hours). I thought it was probably a fluke and shrugged it off, but sure enough the next day I go to use it and BAM another lock within 5 seconds, again no GPSViewer. I've been doing this now for 7 days straight, and each day is the same thing, very quick fixes and locks. I don't know what is going on in the background, but screw GPSViewer, I'm using this from now on to start my GPS.
As always though YMMV, but I'd like to get some feedback if people decide to try it.
Cheers.
I would have to agree on this find and praise for you on how much faster than gpsveiwer is. Iv only gotten the chance to use a few time but got a fix within 30sec of opening
I will try this today and let everyone know if I have the same findings.
Can anyone recommend some good gps software for off road and topo maps?
Thanks,
Mr.ellsworth
actually been using wififofum to grab a lock since the day i got my gps working. it helps that im a wardriver too but definitely the same results here. wififofum grabs locks quickly and accurately. i usually let it run in the background while i start up nav4all or googlemaps.
actually been using wififofum to grab a lock since the day i got my gps working. it helps that im a wardriver too but definitely the same results here. wififofum grabs locks quickly and accurately. i usually let it run in the background while i start up nav4all or googlemaps.
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I too am a fellow wardriver...though I don't use the titan for my 'official' wardriving escapades lol.
I like to take it old school with my orinoco pcmcia w/ external antenna connected to a parabolic dish mounted on my roof. Gentoo laptop with kismet configured to use festival, with sound routed through my car speakers...
Getting all worked up just talking about it...lol
you setup makes my humble titan weep. in all honesty, i have a hard time giving up the usability and ease of wififofum. that software is just awesome. i use kismac on my macbook when im running it off of my computer but i just cant get over how easy it is to just use wififofum. cant wait until someone figures out how to enable the gps in out titans to work over bluetooth so we can hook those up to our comps
Try this... http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=21248&highlight=gps+toggle
Oh yeah... I think AmazeGPS will be good once they make it for windows mobile 6. Right now they have a BETA version. http://amazegps.com/welcome.php
Oh yeah... I think AmazeGPS will be good once they make it for windows mobile 6. Right now they have a BETA version. http://amazegps.com/welcome.php
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Looks like ALPHA to me....big difference
gcincotta said:
I'm just posting because lately I've discovered a pretty nice little trick for our beloved bittersweet GPS.
As most of you know, sometimes the GPS likes to think for itself and decide whether it wants to lock sats quickly or painfully slowly. Same goes for me, sometimes I get a lock within seconds, sometimes it takes 5-10 minutes (all the time using GPSViewer to cold start it first).
Well, for the past week I've been using WiFiFoFum while I'm driving to track AP's while using the GPS function to log long. and lat. and collect them into a merged kml file for Google Earth. When I first enabled the GPS function in WiFiFoFum, I noticed that I got a fix and lock almost instantaneously, not even using GPSViewer (my GPS had not been used for at least over 24 hours). I thought it was probably a fluke and shrugged it off, but sure enough the next day I go to use it and BAM another lock within 5 seconds, again no GPSViewer. I've been doing this now for 7 days straight, and each day is the same thing, very quick fixes and locks. I don't know what is going on in the background, but screw GPSViewer, I'm using this from now on to start my GPS.
As always though YMMV, but I'd like to get some feedback if people decide to try it.
Cheers.
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Hey there, I just installed this on my xv6800 and it doesn't get any locks on sats with gps on. What should the settings be? I have them on Com4 and 4800 baud?
My results
I used TomTom 6 for a month or so and started it with GPSviewer and have the same results, sometimes it locks fast, sometimes grabs a bunch of sats but drops them before it gets a chance to lock and will keep this up seems like forever. I loaded up Garmin Mobile XT last night and find that it will start the GPS and lock within 5 seconds every time. This was amazing to me so I have tried everything to get it to NOT do it that well and I can not get it to fail.
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I used TomTom 6 for a month or so and started it with GPSviewer and have the same results, sometimes it locks fast, sometimes grabs a bunch of sats but drops them before it gets a chance to lock and will keep this up seems like forever. I loaded up Garmin Mobile XT last night and find that it will start the GPS and lock within 5 seconds every time. This was amazing to me so I have tried everything to get it to NOT do it that well and I can not get it to fail.
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give it time.
i have had days at a time, where i "can't get it to fail" but then once in a while it just gets annoyed with me and is buggy for a day or two. today being one of those days. i can get it to work, with soft resets and patience, but some days no matter what i do, it always works within a minute
GPSViewer can get buggy if you switch the tabs at the bottom more than once. The second tab will stop updating (you can tell this when the time freezes) and it will look like you haven't locked anything, when you actually have. Go back and forth to refresh it again.
Guys...this thread wasn't supposed to be about GPSViewer...the whole point of the thread was to do away with it.
To the guy who's having slow results with GPSViewer:
Read my OP and try and get a fix WITHOUT starting GPSViewer. So far every day for the past 9 days I've tried it, it's been quick and flawless.
Also, I don't think I mentioned it, but make sure wifi is on and you're actually "scanning" with wififofum (with the gps option enabled)...don't just open wififofum and enable gps without actually scanning.
Yup WiFiFoFum works great.
Before I wouldn't be able to lock a Satellite connection @ work ( inside a two story building, elevator, everything that would make the signal weak ) with Tom Tom using any other GPS starter program.
With this it gave me a connection in about 5 seconds. Not only that but I can use it to find Rouge WiFi connections at work.
I should also point out....once Wififofum locks the sats, you don't have to keep it open. You can close it and turn off wifi, then use your GPS software of choice.
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I should also point out....once Wififofum locks the sats, you don't have to keep it open. You can close it and turn off wifi, then use your GPS software of choice.
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gcincotta -- What kind of information will you see in Google Maps with the data?
gcincotta -- What kind of information will you see in Google Maps with the data?
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What data are you referring to?
I could never get GPS to work reliably with GPSViewer or google maps, etc....rarely it works, most of the time it doesn't, and WiFoFum is no different. It states GPS: NoFix (0) for me, outside, clear day, following everything here, wifi on, scanning, etc...
There is no magik here that makes your titan work with this program when it doesn't work with others.
I could never get GPS to work reliably with GPSViewer or google maps, etc....rarely it works, most of the time it doesn't, and WiFoFum is no different. It states GPS: NoFix (0) for me, outside, clear day, following everything here, wifi on, scanning, etc...
There is no magik here that makes your titan work with this program when it doesn't work with others.
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Mine started working instantly all of a sudden when using this program, when it would take a while with other programs. Did it ever occur to you sir that you may have a defective GPSOne chipset in your device? Or perhaps maybe you have it set up wrong? I love your negativity though!
I've benn having issues with the Garmin Mobile XT... I have now the Sprint 3.56.651 ROM AND 3.42.30 RADIO...
when I run Garmin it automatically detects satellites without any other GPS aplication (GPSProxy, GPSGate o others...) but it only locks 3 satellites and it doesn't give me my position...
Is there something i'm doing wrong?? what do I need to get this thing working???
The big answer that you have not provided is if any other application returns the same GPS performance. Garmin, as others, only receives the data as provided by the GPSOne chipset, and I cannot see any reason why it could cripple that data.
Try again with a diagnostic app such as VisualGPSce. What you describe sounds like a rather common problem with the Titan in that it is seeing a few satellites but fails to lock-on to them and that is why you cannot determine your position. In a clearing outside, wait up to a half hour.. Try GC's QPST GPS hack.. Etc.. Garmin is unlikely to be the issue.
all right...
I already did the GPS Hack with QPST... I already waited for like 2 hours (I was washing my car) and it did lock up to 6 satellites but it still didn't give me my position...
I installed GPSProxy, GPSGate and many others but I have problems on that applications... first it doesn't show me any satellite, after 10-15 seconds it shows me like 10-15 satellites on the screen but only for a second or so and then they disappear again... this happens in a loop, it shows me the 10-15 satellites for a second, it waits for 10-15 seconds and then it shows them on the screen again for a second..........
I'm going to try VisualGPSce to see if I have any luck... i'll keep you posted...
I am running latest radio and dcd's rom with Garmin Mobile XT on VZW with the GPS Hack with QPST and get locks within 30 secs and 7 to 9 sats.
Not sure if that helps or not.
what radio are you runing?? i have 3.42.30
I don't understand what everyone is doing. I am running Garmin Mobile XT myself, and have been for a couple of months. With the Newest radio rom, and DCD 3.2, I have no problems locking sats. Normally when I start the program, by the time it's up and running, I have a lock on enough sats to get the bars all green. It's just that fast. Not sure what your doing wrong.
I run Garmin Mobile XT with absolutely no problems on VZW.
P.S. I still prime with HTC GPS Tool prior to opening Garmin.
ok still no luck...
are you selecting the GPS on Garmin as COM4:COM4: or as GPS Intermediate Driver??
GPS Intermediate Driver
Working Great
using Baf's GPS toggler cooked into 19588 rom set to standalone in registry
meaning no assisted gps radio 3.42.30. Locks in less than a minute while inside house. Using Garmin Mobile XT.
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I don't understand what everyone is doing. I am running Garmin Mobile XT myself, and have been for a couple of months. With the Newest radio rom, and DCD 3.2, I have no problems locking sats. ... It's just that fast. Not sure what your doing wrong.
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Careful in rushing to blame user error. Some Titans -- regardless of software settings -- just cannot match the GPS performance of other Titans. I've witnessed this myself with two Titans side-by-side. Sadly, it can be a luck of the draw...
The repeating loop of flipping back and forth between the same sets of satellites often occurs when the chipset is stuck in standby mode, so a resolution is to soft-reset the Titan. nelsongruebr's description of satellite "locks" are probably not locks but basic reception of the visible satellites before a lock - if ever - is attained. The description here of poor performance is very similar to what had stumped me on some Titans... Sadly, there may be no resolution.
I've been running Garmin Mobile for about a month on no2chem's 5067 rom and I have not had problems. I don't have to do anything other than open Garmin and within 30 seconds, I have a lock. At first, I was using the 3.39.10 radio and now I'm using 3.42.30.
so basically maybe my Titan can never be used for GPS? or maybe doing a hard reset or flashing another ROM?
Today I tried to get a lock by letting the GPS Intermediate Driver search for satellites on Garmin Mobile XT for quiet some time and had no luck... it could not even find one single satellite...
On the other hand, when I activated the COM4:COM4: it find 3 satellites, it locked to them but didn't give me a fix or a position...
I installed GPSVisualce... First it did find some satellites, like seven of them but after a couple of seconds it loose them... but I checked the coordinates that it marked and they were pretty close to where I was... so maybe it is user problem... maybe I'm missing something...
So I bring up these new questions:
What version of Garmin Mobile XT are you using?
Is somebody with the same ROM and RADIO having the same problem? (Sprint 3.56.651.0 Radio 3.42.30)
Should I flash another ROM?
thanks!!!
You need to prime the GPS first before running Garmin.
Prime it with HTC GPS Tool or GPSViewer. Once it locks, close the primer and open Garmin. Go into settings and Disable COM4:COM4, then click GPS Intermediate Driver, then click Enable.
Your problem should not be the ROM, Radio, or Garmin XT. Keep playing around with VisualGPSce as it's quick and easy to configure to use the appropriate port and will give you an easy reference as to how many satellites are seen and the number of those that a lock is made on.
Beyond that and attempting GC's QPTS GPS edit, place the blame on your hardware. The description you've given on your Titan seeing some satellites, possibly locking, and then losing then is all too familiar to what I've experienced with another Titan. You're not alone.
Problem solved!!!!
yesterday I hard reset my device and after that just installed VisualGPSce and Garmin Mobile Xt so I can try it without any other software...
I went to my house and right where I was about to go to sleep I put my Titan on his Charging cradle and open VisualGPSce and then opened Garmin Mobile XT and leave it there on my night stand all night... to my surprise when I woke up it had a lock on 7 satellites!!!! on my nighstand!!!
I supposed it needed to get a lock for some time since I'm in Venezuela and I supose it was going to be harder to lock from anther country than to lock in the US...
Thanks to everyone who posted here and tried to helped me!!!!
Excellent! Yes, when the cell network assistance feature of AGPS isn't available, for some reason the chipset on our Titans can take quite a while to download the satellite ephemeris data directly from the satellites. Though I think that you're one of the first who's recorded it requiring more than a half hour!
hehe!! i'll say more than 5 hours, cause when I saw the time data on Garmin it said that the stopped time was only like an hour and a half, so it took mora than 5 hours to get that lock...
But I think I spoke to early, yesterday when I got out of work I wanted to try to get a lock to see how long it takes, but to my surprise it didn't locked on any satellites!! not even one!! I left it again overnight and nothing!! so I'm back to zero :'(
I'll be informing you how it behaves today...
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Careful in rushing to blame user error. Some Titans -- regardless of software settings -- just cannot match the GPS performance of other Titans. I've witnessed this myself with two Titans side-by-side. Sadly, it can be a luck of the draw...
The repeating loop of flipping back and forth between the same sets of satellites often occurs when the chipset is stuck in standby mode, so a resolution is to soft-reset the Titan. nelsongruebr's description of satellite "locks" are probably not locks but basic reception of the visible satellites before a lock - if ever - is attained. The description here of poor performance is very similar to what had stumped me on some Titans... Sadly, there may be no resolution.
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I am a newbie here but as a computer engineer I totally agree. We buy many PCs, scanners, printers, etc. all of the same brand. I can have several of the exact same items on the bench and so will not do as the identical sister/brother unit will do. My theory as a tech has been Bubba went to work mad at his wife and said what the hell I am going to just throw this crap together. Then on the flip side you have the new guy wanting to make a good impression and he spends 2 hours on one product where he should have gotten out four in that same two hours...
I think it depends on the device as well...just luck of the purchase...
ok, i kinda figure out what was the problem...
As I told you before, I live in Caracas, Venezuela... and recently the government decided to change the hour (yeah I know... What the hell where they thinking) from GMT -4.00 Caracas, La Paz, to GMT -4.30 Caracas... so Microsoft created a Patch to add the new Time Zone for Caracas... I have been installing this patch for about a year now without a problem (i had previously a HTC Touch and a HTC Excalibur) without any problems... So i instal it on my Titan and thats it...
To my surprise when i did a hard reset to delete everything and installed only Garmin Mobile and VirtualGPSce tha GPS work flawlessly... I said Great!!! It work's!!! so I installed the aplications that I normally have on my Titan INCLUDING the Patch for the New Timezone, and here is where the fun begins... the GPS stop working!!!! I didn't know it was the Time Zone patch until i performed another Hard Reset and Installed only a few aplications and the GPS kept working perfectly...
Today I'm going to install ALL the aplications that I use except the Patch to see if that does the trick...
I'll be posting tonight to tell you how it goes...
Hello, I am currently living in Frankfurt and I am trying to make GPS work but with no success, not even with footprints! I get no signal anywhere!! I used the GPS in Meinz successfully but I cannot use it in Frankfurt... I tried to run quickGPS first and then the GPS program or footprints but I can never get signal...
I am using this rom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=721438&highlight=naked
the 23569 built.
If you have any ideas please tell me
Thank you
Footprints is nothing more than GPS photography.
Do you have a lot of tall buildings aroud in frankfurt where you try to init the GPS device?
Is there a broadcating item near you? (Cell phone antenna, TV station, Powerlines)
Do you have a navigation program?
What do the GPS diagnostics say (how many Satalites are "in view", what is the stability of the signal)
No GPS
I had a problem like this and eventually had to get a new phone. The GPS chip was faulty. GPS worked well for a while then became very sketchy then stopped altogether. Sounds more like this is your problem rather than no GPS signal in Frankfurt.
Wilco said:
Footprints is nothing more than GPS photography.
Do you have a lot of tall buildings aroud in frankfurt where you try to init the GPS device?
Is there a broadcating item near you? (Cell phone antenna, TV station, Powerlines)
Do you have a navigation program?
What do the GPS diagnostics say (how many Satalites are "in view", what is the stability of the signal)
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well, I mostly try to use GPS in the center of Frankfurt where there are many skyscrapers. In my hotel room there is a TV but even if I leave the phone by the window, it still cant get any signal. which GPS diagnostics are you talking about? can you redirect me to that program?
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I had a problem like this and eventually had to get a new phone. The GPS chip was faulty. GPS worked well for a while then became very sketchy then stopped altogether. Sounds more like this is your problem rather than no GPS signal in Frankfurt.
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Thats not the case, because I tried GPS 2 days ago in Meinz and it was working perfectly.
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well, I mostly try to use GPS in the center of Frankfurt where there are many skyscrapers. In my hotel room there is a TV but even if I leave the phone by the window, it still cant get any signal. which GPS diagnostics are you talking about? can you redirect me to that program?
Thats not the case, because I tried GPS 2 days ago in Meinz and it was working perfectly.
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Have you used the trial copilot allready?
If not, you can start Copilot, go into settings, GPS, this will inform you if it sees any sattelites, or none, and what is the signal strength.
You can also use HTC GPS tool, showing output from GPS unit.
You can find it here
Wilco said:
Have you used the trial copilot allready?
If not, you can start Copilot, go into settings, GPS, this will inform you if it sees any sattelites, or none, and what is the signal strength.
You can also use HTC GPS tool, showing output from GPS unit.
You can find it here
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well, I havent used copilot because it is not in this rom. I run the HTC gps tool and there are many satellites available, but I get an Mode 2: Fix not available. I have no idea what it means and I couldnt find anything in google. also I get a message "failed to send NMEA command.." and I also cantfind anything. under information tab, besides the "mode 2" message everything else is 0. under satellite tab there are many red dots representing satellites. what else should I look?
port is 4 and baud is 4800.
I will try it also tomorrow in open space.
The red dots come from QUICKGPS.
These are the locations where the satelites should be.
The fact they are red means none have been detected / fixed
The signal 0 in combination with red dots means: GPS cannot detect any satelites.
I was hoping you would have at least 1 or 2 "green" or at least signals.
I can only see two possibilities:
Reception is very, very bad (since you mention beeing in hotel, putting near window can help, dut does not nessesarily help as windows can have special coatings, or there is to much interference from WAN/GSM/UMTS (and the likes)traffic)
You could go outside, preferably to a park or big terrace where the buildings are somewhat more spaced, and check again.
If everything still remains red, 0 signal there is a possibility your GPS Unit does not work (properly) (bad antenna connection eg)
You really need to try on a few places. If possible go to the country and check how many satelites can be fixed there, if in the open you als get a minimal fix (lots of sattelites staying red, no signal) Your GPS Unit probably works badly.
(eg: if antenna is bad/disconnected, you probably will get some sat fixes, but not all)
Good luck trying.
you are right, I tried it outside and it is working. I dont know if HTC GPS tool did something, because before I installed it GPS was not working. Now, when I am at the street it works, but it doesnt not work in my hotel room or inside any other building, which is strange, because in Meinz it worked in the house.. Anyway, thank you for your help!