Does anyone have any suggestions from first hand experience? I have a GlobalSat BT-359 from my soon to be departed Nokia e61.
I've tried a few shareware apps for 'off road' stuff, hilwalking, etc. Useful for limited applications.
For road navigation.. Tomtom all the way for me Now using Navigator 6 with the Tomtom BT GPS. Its not the cheapest, but there are good deals out there and it works well.
I currently use tomtom6 but have used destinator in the past and its my prefered. This is in australia and the tomtom maps are not as detailed but they are more customizable with different voices and point of intererst etc. i believe the maps are done from local providers so tomtom for the states might be better.
Has anyone had any delay when intially starting TomTom 6?
I have TomTom 5.xx and it takes about a minute or more to load up.
Seems like iGuidance does the same (according to someone).
I'm going to try Wayfinder on a 5 day free trial for a project I have. I'll post results next week.
iNav iGuidance in my opinion
I've tried TomTom, iGuidance and iGo and my favorite by far is iGo.
Do you have a link to iGo and by chance have you tried it on a Hermes running WM6. I'm a long iGuidance user, like it alot, but right now it has several annoying issues with WM6 that need to be patched and currently there's no timeline on when iNav will fix it. I'd like to give iGo a Go
I use TomTom for road navigatoin and Anquet for off road (walking, and cycling)
Anquet is pricy! but it has OS mapping available for the entire UK, (and i believe its this OS map data thats has enforced the high price. most of the the UK is at 1/25k Which is idea for walking, (you can see trees marked and field boundrys.
The mapping app for the PPC in the early version was poor but the newer stuff is pretty good.
That said i have recently installed Gmaps. Google Maps free PPC app, if your in a 3G area its really quite fast to load, and being able to see satalite images (if the res is good enough where you are) is pretty cool. Driving in my car with it drawing Satalite photos clear enough to see cars on makes you feel like Jack Bower!
Gmaps will do point to point navigation too, and in the US it can pick up traffic infomation.
Wayfinder GPS Software Review
So I tried the free 5 day Wayfinder download. Here's how I see it:
1: The download was easy but getting it to work was another thing. 3 installs and 2 uninstalls later it came up.
2: You need to authenticate prior to first use. Authentication took about 5 attempts including having to ask for the code from tech support which delayed thing 24hrs. The code is supposed to be included according to the Readme but it wasn't. The code sent didn’t work and I finally authenticated when the software asked permission to do so by sending an sms to their server.
3. This application requires an internet connection to download maps, which means that if your connection is slow, good luck. If you loose the connection due to drop out or no service you are screwed. If you loose connection, you get a pop-up error message and the software seems to be no longer useable because you close the message but it keeps returning. The only option is to close the application.
4: The accuracy was good and the auto corrections worked well on a 32 mile drive home. I purposely took a different route to see how it would respond and I must say it reacted quickly and accurately.
5: The task bar is at the top of the screen and is very large, too large in fact. I couldn’t find a way to reduce the size or minimize it.
6: I couldn't get the screen zoom to show me the entire route. It wasn't as if I was going cross country, it was only 32 miles.
7: The search function worked very well. My office is in a good sized city but my home is almost in the middle of no where. It found both locations with no problem the first time. That's an advantage of an on-line service.
Finally, I worked with Rt66 on a Nokia e61 for a project. Rt66 supplies all of the maps in the application so you don't need to be on-line at all which is a good thing. Rt66 also plots your course with a line overlayed on the map. Wayfinder doesn’t. Rt66 seemed to have some quirks of its own but overall was a much more useable product.
The bottom line is that if you have a good signal all the time you are fine. Cingular does not have 100% coverage nationwide which means you may run into problems planning routes and using the system if you are in a low or no signal area. I think I'll stick to a maps-on-board program.
Lyle
Wayfinder GPS Software Review
So I tried the free 5 day Wayfinder download. Here's how I see it:
1: The download was easy but getting it to work was another thing. 3 installs and 2 uninstalls later it finally came up.
2: You need to authenticate prior to first use. Authentication took about 5 attempts including having to ask for the code from tech support which delayed thing 24hrs. The code is supposed to be included according to the Readme but it wasn't. The code sent didn’t work and I finally authenticated when the software asked permission to do so by sending an sms to their server.
3. This application requires an internet connection to download maps, which means that if your connection is slow, good luck. If you loose the connection due to drop out or no service you are screwed. If you loose connection, you get a pop-up error message and the software seems to be no longer useable because you close the message but it keeps returning. The only option is to close the application.
4: The search function worked very well. My office is in a good sized city but my home is almost in the middle of no where. It found both locations with no problem the first time. That's an advantage of an on-line service.
5: The accuracy was good and the auto corrections worked well on a 32 mile drive home. I purposely took a different route to see how it would respond and I must say it reacted quickly and accurately.
6: The task bar is at the top of the screen and is very large, too large in fact. I couldn’t find a way to reduce the size or minimize it.
7: I couldn't get the screen zoom to show me the entire route. It wasn't as if I was going cross country, it was only 32 miles.
Finally, I previously worked with Rt66 on a Nokia e61 for a work related project. Rt66 supplies all of the maps in the application so you don't need to be on-line at all which is a good thing. Rt66 also plots your course with a line overlayed on the map which I like. Wayfinder doesn’t. Rt66 seemed to have some quirks of its own but overall was a much more useable product. Would I go back to Rt66? Maybe but I need to check out the other map on0board applications first.
The bottom line for Wayfinder is that if you have a good signal all the time you are fine. Cingular does not have 100% coverage nationwide which means you may run into problems planning routes and using the system if you are in a low or no signal area. I think I'll stick to a maps-on-board program.
Lyle
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Do you have a link to iGo and by chance have you tried it on a Hermes running WM6. I'm a long iGuidance user, like it alot, but right now it has several annoying issues with WM6 that need to be patched and currently there's no timeline on when iNav will fix it. I'd like to give iGo a Go
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I am running iGo on WM6 and it's flawless.
You can buy iGo here: http://www.i-go.com/en/
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Has anyone had any delay when intially starting TomTom 6?
I have TomTom 5.xx and it takes about a minute or more to load up.
Seems like iGuidance does the same (according to someone).
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I have had start-up freezes with Tomtom, but seems fine at the moment. I am using Black 3.0 ROM.
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Has anyone had any delay when intially starting TomTom 6?
I have TomTom 5.xx and it takes about a minute or more to load up.
Seems like iGuidance does the same (according to someone).
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I had the same problem with TomTom 5 and Windows Mobile 5. When I upgraded the phone to Windows Mobile 6 TomTom ran super fast.
FYI TomTom 6 is even faster!~~
I tried TomTom6 for my trip down to New york, and Atlantic City all I can say its the best GPS software I've used period
it was paired it with i.Trek M5 GPS receiver
I use tomtom 6.03 on LVSW's WM6 ROM. in a word, WOW! awesome program, fast, and optimised for PDA use while driving.
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You can buy iGo here: http://www.i-go.com/en/
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Where... I can't see any prices or buy now links???!!!!!
When it's about car navigation, I can recommend Tom Tom 6. I've tried Destinator, which I found more flexible, but the actual location dragged about 200meters so after I had driven past my exit did the arrow come to the spot.
Missed so many turns I ditched that POS.
I have used Route 66 on P910i, which is better than Destinator but doesn't give as much coverage of Finland as Tom tom 6.
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Where... I can't see any prices or buy now links???!!!!!
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Look at here
http://www.google.se/search?hl=sv&q=Buy+NavNGo&meta=
and the review of the iGO is here :
http://www.pocketgpsworld.com/iGo2006.php
and also take a look at theirs forum for usable tips how to configure voice commands for your satisfaction :
http://www.pocketgpsworld.com/modul...opic&t=41654&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0
Igo is def the best however it doesn't seem to work with wm6, goes really slow and eats up memory till you need to reset. Unfortunately I can't test it on my hermes as they don't do a microsd version.
I spoke to the tech guys there, who said that it worked, however I am not convinced as it still isn't on their list of compatible OS's.
So will adopt the wait and see.
Plus its locked to the card so sucks if you have more than one device, like I do.
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Hello everyone, I need some hel.
I am about to get GPS for the wizard.
I'm very set on a small bluetooth gps device, but I need to know what program to use, I'd likw to make sure that the program has an alternate direction feature and auto adjusts directions for wich way I go.
If any of you could help, that'd be great.
Thanks
Pacer said:
Hello everyone, I need some hel.
I am about to get GPS for the wizard.
I'm very set on a small bluetooth gps device, but I need to know what program to use, I'd likw to make sure that the program has an alternate direction feature and auto adjusts directions for wich way I go.
If any of you could help, that'd be great.
Thanks
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im in the market or one too and i don't know squat about them. i'm still learning. but what i do know is, everyone loves tomtom software for gps devices. i think i'm going to go that route.
Head over to semsons.com or buygpsnow.com -- they offer bundles of GPS software & hardware. WRT hardware, pretty much any unit using the Sirf III chipset will work well. I use the Globalsat BT338 -- it has a long battery life, and I can get a decent signal indoors.
I agree with 3waygeek, The two aforementioned websites have nice offerings. I use a Holux GPSlim 236 with my Wizard. No issues, decent battery life good signal strength
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I agree with 3waygeek, The two aforementioned websites have nice offerings. I use a Holux GPSlim 236 with my Wizard. No issues, decent battery life good signal strength
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What application do you track yourself with?
Like garmin, Tomtom, Streets and Trips...
Cellink BTG-7000 Bluetooth GPS
I recently purchased the Cellink BTG-7000 Bluetooth GPS (view product website) to use with my MDA. I got it at geeks.com for $35. It works quite well. I tried alot of freebie GPS apps, and I stuck with Google mobile maps (view details) program.
The device tracks up to 12 satellites at once, and I've seen it go that high. There is no need for an additional antenna, although it does come with the option to plug one in.
The only downside with Google mobile maps is that the maps are downloaded on-the-fly over the GPRS connection. It can lag sometimes, and won't work if you have no signal. But it is a plus that it doesn't take up a ton of strorage space with image maps.
I have everything all working fine...
I have successfully used four different bluetooth GPS units, so really don't worry about which on eyou get... Currently I'm using A Holox BT321 bought on Ebay for 30GBP - turns itself off when not in use, and useds the same mini-usb charger as the wizard too.
As for software, TomTom does everything you need. I've had it both versions 5 and 6 working on both WM5 and all flavours of WM6 around.
My version of tomtom was 'located' -try Googling for a torrent (or contact me direct)!
I've also tried destinator, but that was garbage, and although CoPilot has been recommended, I can't justify the expense when TomTom works fine.
Tip: To make TomTom work with your GPS...
Pair up the GPS, then in the bluetooth settings, add a port, outbound, as COM6 unsecured. Then in TomTom GPS settings, just select 'Other Bluetooth Reciever' and port COM6.... simple.
GPS and Navigation Program
Sorry if this is too late, however I have only just joined the website.
I too have used a Holux GPSlim 236 with my imate K-Jam (Wizard) as per 'anothersmith' and when I dropped that I went for the i-Blue 737 which has a wonderful feature of going into a standby mode if you walk away without turing it off until a device that is synced with it comes back into range. Not just any bluetooth device. I also found the i-Blue to be a little more accurate with Navigation compared with Magellan and Garmin designated GPS units.
Paired with this I also use TTN6 which I find to be probably the most accurate maps for my area (Nth Qld, Australia) and I am very happy with the program after using Destinator PN and having seen Co-Pilot. It also one of the best supported products I have found when searching the net. TTN6 does take a littel time to start with the 200MHz processor, however it is worth the wait.
I have had other mates join my thinking after seeing my set-up. I hope this little insight gives anybody else ideas if you are looking at using your device to assit make your life easier.
TACK
Wayfinder offers a free 5 day trial so I decided to give it a test run. Here is my experience:
1: The download was easy but getting it to work was another thing. 3 installs and 2 uninstalls later it finally came up. Pairing it with a GlobalSat BT-359 took a few atempts also before Wayfinder saw it.
2: You need to authenticate prior to first use. Authentication took about 5 attempts including having to ask for the code from tech support which delayed thing 24hrs. The code is supposed to be included according to the Readme but it wasn't. The code sent didn’t work and I finally authenticated when the software asked permission to do so by sending an sms to their server.
3. This application requires an internet connection to download maps, which means that if your connection is slow, good luck. It took over 10 minutes to download the data. If you loose the connection due to drop out or no service you are screwed. If you loose connection, you get a pop-up error message and the software seems to be no longer useable because you close the message but it keeps returning. The only option is to close the application. This actually happened to me about 1/2 mile from my home which is a dead zone. Glad I know how to get there on my own...
4: The search function worked very well. My office is in a good sized city but my home is almost in the middle of no where. It found both locations with no problem the first time. That's an advantage of an on-line service.
5: The accuracy was good and the auto corrections worked well on a 32 mile drive home. I purposely took a different route to see how it would respond and I must say it reacted quickly and accurately.
6: The task bar is at the top of the screen and is very large, too large in fact. I couldn’t find a way to reduce the size or minimize it.
7: I couldn't get the screen zoom to show me the entire route. It wasn't as if I was going cross country, it was only 32 miles.
The bottom line for Wayfinder is that if you have a good signal all the time you are fine. Cingular does not have 100% coverage nationwide which means you may run into problems planning routes and using the system if you are in a low or no signal area. I think I'll stick to a maps-on-board program.
Finally, I previously worked with Rt66 on a Nokia e61 for a work related project. Rt66 supplies all of the maps in the application so you don't need to be on-line at all which is a good thing. Rt66 also plots your course with a line overlayed on the map which I like. Wayfinder doesn’t. Rt66 is not perfect and had some quirks of its own but overall was a much more useable product. Would I buy Rt66? Maybe but I think I need to check out the other map on-board applications first. GPS software may be the most expensive mobile application out there. It would be nice if someone got it right but maybe this type of product is just too complex.
Lyle
Problem is that you can't preload maps onto a Windows Mobile unit, like you can with other units. So if datatraffic fails you are screwed. I used it on an UIQ device and there it is possible to store maps on a storagecard.
Also their new Version 7 is out for many devices but not Windows Mobile...
Hmmmmm...
Rt66 loads maps onto the card and they offer a WM version. I also believe that TomTom5 & 6 do the same.
Lyle
Wayfinder was a good choice for my Sony Ericsson P900 as it gave me full UK GPS which I wouldn't of otherwise got as the memory cards it supported where too small to store national maps. Wayfinder is designed to constantly download tiny bits of maps as it needs.
I did find that the amount of download was very small, but it still cost money in GPRS every time you used it and there was a yearly subscription fee for the maps on top of the software cost.
For the Hermes it seems a bit pointless though, as it supports memory sticks large enough to store full maps and the processing can support more advanced software.
It's a good bit of software for smartphones, it's just that's it's not really designed for Windows Mobile PDA's
Hi, I need to purchase some SatNav kit for my Athena, I know the question has been asked before but in particular I am running PK Black 2.0 @ 96dpi and am in need of guidance as to compatability as well as best overall software.
My choices are MioMap (iGO), CoPilot 7, or TomTom... I need trafic redirection over GPRS with my dataplan and as previously stated 96dpi compatability on WM6.
I am also looking for a windscreen mount and bluetooth car kit plus leather case with viewing window when closed.
Is it possible to get a new keyboard?
What do you guys find to be the best UK performer? I mostly travel in UK but some trips to Brussles as well...
Many thanks
Martyn
I quick reply to one part of your question is that I tried running igo 2006 on my athena with 96dpi and it didnt run right. The buttons where all messed up and I couldn't even get through the first menu. TomTom works great with 96dpi though. Miomap might be a little different than iGo. I know they aren't exactly the same just similar. I'm not sure about reliability in the UK though since I am in the US. Miomaps has always work the best for me. The UI and maps load quicker with iGo. TomTom has the traffic support which iGo does not. TomTom also has a pretty nice software package that you install on your computer called TomTom home. This will update your software whenever there is an update and you can get extras through there (ie. POI, Speed Cameras).
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Hi, I need to purchase some SatNav kit for my Athena, I know the question has been asked before but in particular I am running PK Black 2.0 @ 96dpi and am in need of guidance as to compatability as well as best overall software.
My choices are MioMap (iGO), CoPilot 7, or TomTom... I need trafic redirection over GPRS with my dataplan and as previously stated 96dpi compatability on WM6.
I am also looking for a windscreen mount and bluetooth car kit plus leather case with viewing window when closed.
Is it possible to get a new keyboard?
What do you guys find to be the best UK performer? I mostly travel in UK but some trips to Brussles as well...
Many thanks
Martyn
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Igo only works in 192dpi. TomTom routing is nowhere near as good but it does traffic (Igo doesn't except via TMC). Copilot 7 isn't out yet AFAIK.
Mount - use the Brodit. BT - use Parrot if necessary.
CoPilot 7 - without a doubt!
Confucious said:
CoPilot 7 - without a doubt!
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Where is that available?
apd said:
Where is that available?
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Sorry, still in Beta.
TwoPlus1 said:
Hi, I need to purchase some SatNav kit for my Athena, I know the question has been asked before but in particular I am running PK Black 2.0 @ 96dpi and am in need of guidance as to compatability as well as best overall software.
My choices are MioMap (iGO), CoPilot 7, or TomTom... I need trafic redirection over GPRS with my dataplan and as previously stated 96dpi compatability on WM6.
I am also looking for a windscreen mount and bluetooth car kit plus leather case with viewing window when closed.
Is it possible to get a new keyboard?
What do you guys find to be the best UK performer? I mostly travel in UK but some trips to Brussles as well...
Many thanks
Martyn
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I've used CoPilot 6 and TomTom. Like TomTom better as it's more accurate, works without issues in RealVGA mode, I run 96dpi. Last time I used CoPilot was on my Universal with external GPS, of course. I haven't really tried any other software. TomTom has the traffic updates via subscription and does a good job. Hasn't got me lost yet. CoPilot got me lost a few times so I dropped it.
I've used copilot 5 for about two years, iGO my way 2006 for about two months and Tom Tom for about a month. Of these, iGo is clearly the best IMHO. It's route calculation is the least illogical. It is the prettiest and most user friendly, fastest in getting a GPS fix, and is the only one that warns (audio warning) me when I exceed legal speed limit. Tom Tom only display the speeding visually, but who could keep an eye on the device to know that while driving?
The real downside is that iGO can't run in 96 or 128 dpi mode whereas TT can. Of these, I personally think TT's route calculatin is the least sensible. I often have two of them running side by side (on two devices of course) to see the difference.
Now, i've decided to stick with iGO despite the display problem. I'm love 128 dpi, but whenever I use iGO, I just switch back to 192. Not a real problem if you do it while walking to your car. By the time I start the engine, it is reset back to 192 and gps ready to go.
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I've used CoPilot 6 and TomTom. Like TomTom better as it's more accurate, works without issues in RealVGA mode, I run 96dpi. Last time I used CoPilot was on my Universal with external GPS, of course. I haven't really tried any other software. TomTom has the traffic updates via subscription and does a good job. Hasn't got me lost yet. CoPilot got me lost a few times so I dropped it.
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Suprising, but you are in the US. TomTom in the UK it is generally agreed that the Navteq maps used by CoPilot are far beter than the maps used by TomTom.
CoPilot 7 is a vast improvement over CP6 and works in all resolutions, finds GPS receievers (incl the Athena's internal one) with no problem and just works. Reading any forums and you will see people having problems with getting TomTom working - although a fair proportion of these are pirate copies of TomTom - or people who have just changed device - something that's easy with CP but not with TT!
CP7 will be well worth the wait and hopefully not top long now.
I have not seen iGo - but it does have it's fans, could be worth considering.
For those who haven't seen it yet...http://www.clove.co.uk/viewProduct.aspx?product=DB4D6BD5-6B99-4E02-9CD0-FD52074A1D91
This is a link to a site selling CoPilot 7 due for release 1st week in October, I think I'll struggle on untill then. I have no local knowlege of the places I'm visiting for work so SatNav is a must, free trafic rerouting is also a definate plus as I already have a data plan. I just hope it's faster than people say 6 was...
On the question of car mount's I've seen the brodit, but do they do a windscreen mount as opposed to a vent mount? I prefere this position (near HUD) as opposed to the device calling your attention down into the car.
Thanks for all your comments.
Martyn
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Suprising, but you are in the US. TomTom in the UK it is generally agreed that the Navteq maps used by CoPilot are far beter than the maps used by TomTom.
CoPilot 7 is a vast improvement over CP6 and works in all resolutions, finds GPS receievers (incl the Athena's internal one) with no problem and just works. Reading any forums and you will see people having problems with getting TomTom working - although a fair proportion of these are pirate copies of TomTom - or people who have just changed device - something that's easy with CP but not with TT!
CP7 will be well worth the wait and hopefully not top long now.
I have not seen iGo - but it does have it's fans, could be worth considering.
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For those who haven't seen it yet...http://www.clove.co.uk/viewProduct.aspx?product=DB4D6BD5-6B99-4E02-9CD0-FD52074A1D91
This is a link to a site selling CoPilot 7 due for release 1st week in October, I think I'll struggle on untill then. I have no local knowlege of the places I'm visiting for work so SatNav is a must, free trafic rerouting is also a definate plus as I already have a data plan. I just hope it's faster than people say 6 was...
On the question of car mount's I've seen the brodit, but do they do a windscreen mount as opposed to a vent mount? I prefere this position (near HUD) as opposed to the device calling your attention down into the car.
Thanks for all your comments.
Martyn
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Re Brodit - IMHO they are the best mounts. They mount in different places in different cars - see their website (Brodit.se). I'm not sure I'd mount an Ameo on the windscreen - I would be worried it wasn't secure enough on a suction mount.
I just looked at the screen shots of copilot 7. It is a lot more beautiful than the previous version, although still not as nice as iGO's. My initial impression, based on the website's description is that Copilot 7 still has a long long way to go before it can catch up with iGO. The key areas are as follows:
1) I don't see anything that says Copilot is able to warn user who exceeds the legal speed limit. If the feature is there, they're not doing a good job advertising it. (Or may be they refrain from mentioning it for legal reasons, as it is prohibited to have such a feature in some countries??)
2) When copilot sees says a red light camera, a warning screen pop up that replaces the map. During those few seconds, you might be at a point that you need the map most. In contrast, iGO has a semi transparent speed sign that lay on the map, so your ability to use the map is unhindered. I see that Copilot 7 has not changed this flawed approach.
3) iGO warns the speed camera and red light camera by beep sound rather than spoken word as in copilot. There is a lot of advantage in IGO's approach, because at that moment iGO might be simultaneously be giving turn instruction. In Copilot's approach, the verbal warning on red light camera may interfer with the turn instruction. That was the case with Copilot 5. Not sure if Copilot 7 has improved on this.
4) iGO would also have a different beep if you are exceeding the speed being monitored by the speed camera. This is regardless of whether or not it issues overspeeding (which is in the mercy of whether speed limit data has been kept for that stretch of road). Copilot 5 won't have this strength. What about Copilot 7??.
I can go on into many other details, but would do that only after trying it out first hand.
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I just looked at the screen shots of copilot 7. It is a lot more beautiful than the previous version, although still not as nice as iGO's. My initial impression, based on the website's description is that Copilot 7 still has a long long way to go before it can catch up with iGO. The key areas are as follows:
1) I don't see anything that says Copilot is able to warn user who exceeds the legal speed limit. If the feature is there, they're not doing a good job advertising it. (Or may be they refrain from mentioning it for legal reasons, as it is prohibited to have such a feature in some countries??)
2) When copilot sees says a red light camera, a warning screen pop up that replaces the map. During those few seconds, you might be at a point that you need the map most. In contrast, iGO has a semi transparent speed sign that lay on the map, so your ability to use the map is unhindered. I see that Copilot 7 has not changed this flawed approach.
3) iGO warns the speed camera and red light camera by beep sound rather than spoken word as in copilot. There is a lot of advantage in IGO's approach, because at that moment iGO might be simultaneously be giving turn instruction. In Copilot's approach, the verbal warning on red light camera may interfer with the turn instruction. That was the case with Copilot 5. Not sure if Copilot 7 has improved on this.
4) iGO would also have a different beep if you are exceeding the speed being monitored by the speed camera. This is regardless of whether or not it issues overspeeding (which is in the mercy of whether speed limit data has been kept for that stretch of road). Copilot 5 won't have this strength. What about Copilot 7??.
I can go on into many other details, but would do that only after trying it out first hand.
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Agreed on all fronts. If only Igo would do traffic, it would be close to perfect!
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Agreed on all fronts. If only Igo would do traffic, it would be close to perfect!
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There is a TMC feature in iGO. Basically, if there is a provider what can provide the data, the software is able to use the traffic information to plan route and recalculate route. I have not used this feature because the company that has started on the traffic management control service project is still not ready to do it yet. What I understand is that traffic data would be broadcast via FM signal to the Athena (that's why there is a built-in FM in our unit), and iGO is able to process and take this into account. But I have to say that I only read about this in the manual, but have not tried it as such broadcasting service is not avaialbe here.
Hope this helps
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There is a TMC feature in iGO. Basically, if there is a provider what can provide the data, the software is able to use the traffic information to plan route and recalculate route. I have not used this feature because the company that has started on the traffic management control service project is still not ready to do it yet. What I understand is that traffic data would be broadcast via FM signal to the Athena (that's why there is a built-in FM in our unit), and iGO is able to process and take this into account. But I have to say that I only read about this in the manual, but have not tried it as such broadcasting service is not avaialbe here.
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I know about thge TMC functions but (a) they're not widely available (b) you would need an external TMC receiver (the Ameo can't deal with this) and (c) they're not as good as the trafficmaster (and similar) data systems we have here. TomTom's (data) traffic system was quite good. Shame!
eaglesteve said:
There is a TMC feature in iGO. Basically, if there is a provider what can provide the data, the software is able to use the traffic information to plan route and recalculate route. I have not used this feature because the company that has started on the traffic management control service project is still not ready to do it yet. What I understand is that traffic data would be broadcast via FM signal to the Athena (that's why there is a built-in FM in our unit), and iGO is able to process and take this into account. But I have to say that I only read about this in the manual, but have not tried it as such broadcasting service is not avaialbe here.
Hope this helps
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could you explain where read about Athena and FM built in?
beginner said:
could you explain where read about Athena and FM built in?
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I have come across a few reports that say Athena has an inbuilt FM receiver and had always assumed that once the TMC service provider is ready I would start using the traffic management feature of my device. But now that you raised the question, I had became curious myself as to whether these reports were accurate. I wish I would locate those webpages, but I don't seem to be able to locate them now.
So, I went and read the service manual to see if anything is mentioned there. Unfortunately, I have to say that the answer is no. The service manual has made no mentioned of FM receiver at all.
With this, I now have to correct my earlier impression and would now assume that these reports were inaccurate. I'm not sure if the service manual is for 7500 only or for both 7500 and 7501. I'm also come across some debate on whether 7501 has an FM radio receiver. I'm pretty sure having come across some debate pointing both ways. However, since I do not have the 7501 manual, I would not raise my hope there.
It would be so nice, so necessary to have FM built in so that we could use the TMC functions. Oh well....
Maps for IGO / MIO
in case that you were not updated with the maps here are the maps for IGO 2006 and MIO
http://www.filefactory.com/f/9eeb0f75e820535d/
my gps is out more than a kilometre (a little less than a mile)
any ideas? i am using gpsviewer and tomtom6
i have dcd 2.3.1 rom
3.27 radio
any ideas?
ack
out? You mean it's off by more than a mile?
If so... someone's cloned your phone? :/ donno sorry.
dieseldennis said:
my gps is out more than a kilometre (a little less than a mile)
any ideas? i am using gpsviewer and tomtom6
i have dcd 2.3.1 rom
3.27 radio
any ideas?
ack
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That is a trip. So you are a mile away using Tom Tom?
Because if you where using Google Maps or Microsoft Live Search it would make sense because they tend to use agps (Cellular Towers) first to try and find your location and then they use the GPS receiver.
It might be the baud rate.... who knows. Or maybe just try to wait until it locks to at least 4 satellites for a better accurate read.
yeah it is a bit of a trip........
sometimes i get up to 6 7 or 8 sat locked on and im still out just as much.
im downloading iguidance right now im hoping its a mapping prob with tomtom.............i googled it and other people are having simular map issues with tomtom6.
wish me luck
anyone running iguidance ? any instal tips anyone has id appreciate it
Mine is perfect
I am useing the same as you and mine is bang on, i mean right to the foot nearly.
dieseldennis said:
yeah it is a bit of a trip........
sometimes i get up to 6 7 or 8 sat locked on and im still out just as much.
im downloading iguidance right now im hoping its a mapping prob with tomtom.............i googled it and other people are having simular map issues with tomtom6.
wish me luck
anyone running iguidance ? any instal tips anyone has id appreciate it
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That sucks man. Hopefully iguidance works for you. I have Tom Tom Navigator 6 and havent had any issues with it. I hear it sucks for rural places. That is why sometimes people use Garmin.
I wasn't able to replicate your results thus I cannot resolve this. But feel free to let us know how iguidance is. I haven't tried it.
Perhaps your in a linear superposition of two position eigenstates. When your gps takes a measurement your wave function collapses to one or the other. If there are two different routes to the local store,you could try going shopping and see if you interfere with yourself when you arrive. ;-)
I am using tomtom ,igo and destinator and they perform just as well if nto better then my bluetooth gps receiver.
dieseldennis said:
my gps is out more than a kilometre (a little less than a mile)
any ideas? i am using gpsviewer and tomtom6
i have dcd 2.3.1 rom
3.27 radio
any ideas?
ack
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soft reset...was happening to me..hadn't had to soft reset in like 3 days..did a soft reset and was good. my problem was that gps kept connecting quickly...but its active location was like 1-2 miles from where i actually was...
soft resetting usually does a phone good anyway, I usually soft reset when i wake up.
btw my sprint Navigation is "Dead Nut" I drove to this real exclusive part of Truckee to do an estimate and it put me right to the peoples front door....AND IT WAS A NEW HOUSE!!!
Had this happen to me once...more than a mile actually, nearly oh, 6km or so. I tried to soft reset, multiple times and it didn't do jack. (Was using Google maps.) I just left it, as in, didn't play with the GPS for a day cause I got frustrated trying to fix it and lo and behold, it worked again. So...shrug, don't fret over it unless its ALWAYS a mile off...
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Try the things in this thread. it worked for me... I am using Delorme Street Atlas for now because I already own it & am to cheap to pay for the internet on my phone... And it was always off by alot.. Then I tried the baffles sw & it worked... And now I'm trying the VisualGPSce & it appears to work better even... It even shows me in the backyard vs the front yard.
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=17032
Different GPS problems
When your GPS gives you the wrong location, it can only fall into 2 categories.
Satellite Signal-Signals have been known to do all sorts of weird things. You are dealing with a very weak signal when you use GPS and it is prone to bouncing off of all sorts of things. This "bouncing" delays the arrival at your receiver and causes your location to be off.
Software-Software can be the second issue. This can either be the mapping software(such TomTom) or it can be a computational error. Your GPS is pinpointing your location by comparing "clocks". Sometimes it can 'flub' and make a mistake, but this is extremely rare.
Given that you were CONSTANTLY off by 1 mile, I would feel safe assuming that this was a software issue. I would test multiple mapping systems(especially Google Maps).
If you are using your GPS is an area with high buildings, hills, or inside of a building you might notice "jumping".
Telenav works perfectly and has data assisted location.
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Maybe there is something wrong with your phones GPS chip. As I use QuickGPS, Astrolauncher, and TomTom 6 and I am right on every time....
I've benn having issues with the Garmin Mobile XT... I have now the Sprint 3.56.651 ROM AND 3.42.30 RADIO...
when I run Garmin it automatically detects satellites without any other GPS aplication (GPSProxy, GPSGate o others...) but it only locks 3 satellites and it doesn't give me my position...
Is there something i'm doing wrong?? what do I need to get this thing working???
The big answer that you have not provided is if any other application returns the same GPS performance. Garmin, as others, only receives the data as provided by the GPSOne chipset, and I cannot see any reason why it could cripple that data.
Try again with a diagnostic app such as VisualGPSce. What you describe sounds like a rather common problem with the Titan in that it is seeing a few satellites but fails to lock-on to them and that is why you cannot determine your position. In a clearing outside, wait up to a half hour.. Try GC's QPST GPS hack.. Etc.. Garmin is unlikely to be the issue.
all right...
I already did the GPS Hack with QPST... I already waited for like 2 hours (I was washing my car) and it did lock up to 6 satellites but it still didn't give me my position...
I installed GPSProxy, GPSGate and many others but I have problems on that applications... first it doesn't show me any satellite, after 10-15 seconds it shows me like 10-15 satellites on the screen but only for a second or so and then they disappear again... this happens in a loop, it shows me the 10-15 satellites for a second, it waits for 10-15 seconds and then it shows them on the screen again for a second..........
I'm going to try VisualGPSce to see if I have any luck... i'll keep you posted...
I am running latest radio and dcd's rom with Garmin Mobile XT on VZW with the GPS Hack with QPST and get locks within 30 secs and 7 to 9 sats.
Not sure if that helps or not.
what radio are you runing?? i have 3.42.30
I don't understand what everyone is doing. I am running Garmin Mobile XT myself, and have been for a couple of months. With the Newest radio rom, and DCD 3.2, I have no problems locking sats. Normally when I start the program, by the time it's up and running, I have a lock on enough sats to get the bars all green. It's just that fast. Not sure what your doing wrong.
I run Garmin Mobile XT with absolutely no problems on VZW.
P.S. I still prime with HTC GPS Tool prior to opening Garmin.
ok still no luck...
are you selecting the GPS on Garmin as COM4:COM4: or as GPS Intermediate Driver??
GPS Intermediate Driver
Working Great
using Baf's GPS toggler cooked into 19588 rom set to standalone in registry
meaning no assisted gps radio 3.42.30. Locks in less than a minute while inside house. Using Garmin Mobile XT.
Chemdawg said:
I don't understand what everyone is doing. I am running Garmin Mobile XT myself, and have been for a couple of months. With the Newest radio rom, and DCD 3.2, I have no problems locking sats. ... It's just that fast. Not sure what your doing wrong.
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Careful in rushing to blame user error. Some Titans -- regardless of software settings -- just cannot match the GPS performance of other Titans. I've witnessed this myself with two Titans side-by-side. Sadly, it can be a luck of the draw...
The repeating loop of flipping back and forth between the same sets of satellites often occurs when the chipset is stuck in standby mode, so a resolution is to soft-reset the Titan. nelsongruebr's description of satellite "locks" are probably not locks but basic reception of the visible satellites before a lock - if ever - is attained. The description here of poor performance is very similar to what had stumped me on some Titans... Sadly, there may be no resolution.
I've been running Garmin Mobile for about a month on no2chem's 5067 rom and I have not had problems. I don't have to do anything other than open Garmin and within 30 seconds, I have a lock. At first, I was using the 3.39.10 radio and now I'm using 3.42.30.
so basically maybe my Titan can never be used for GPS? or maybe doing a hard reset or flashing another ROM?
Today I tried to get a lock by letting the GPS Intermediate Driver search for satellites on Garmin Mobile XT for quiet some time and had no luck... it could not even find one single satellite...
On the other hand, when I activated the COM4:COM4: it find 3 satellites, it locked to them but didn't give me a fix or a position...
I installed GPSVisualce... First it did find some satellites, like seven of them but after a couple of seconds it loose them... but I checked the coordinates that it marked and they were pretty close to where I was... so maybe it is user problem... maybe I'm missing something...
So I bring up these new questions:
What version of Garmin Mobile XT are you using?
Is somebody with the same ROM and RADIO having the same problem? (Sprint 3.56.651.0 Radio 3.42.30)
Should I flash another ROM?
thanks!!!
You need to prime the GPS first before running Garmin.
Prime it with HTC GPS Tool or GPSViewer. Once it locks, close the primer and open Garmin. Go into settings and Disable COM4:COM4, then click GPS Intermediate Driver, then click Enable.
Your problem should not be the ROM, Radio, or Garmin XT. Keep playing around with VisualGPSce as it's quick and easy to configure to use the appropriate port and will give you an easy reference as to how many satellites are seen and the number of those that a lock is made on.
Beyond that and attempting GC's QPTS GPS edit, place the blame on your hardware. The description you've given on your Titan seeing some satellites, possibly locking, and then losing then is all too familiar to what I've experienced with another Titan. You're not alone.
Problem solved!!!!
yesterday I hard reset my device and after that just installed VisualGPSce and Garmin Mobile Xt so I can try it without any other software...
I went to my house and right where I was about to go to sleep I put my Titan on his Charging cradle and open VisualGPSce and then opened Garmin Mobile XT and leave it there on my night stand all night... to my surprise when I woke up it had a lock on 7 satellites!!!! on my nighstand!!!
I supposed it needed to get a lock for some time since I'm in Venezuela and I supose it was going to be harder to lock from anther country than to lock in the US...
Thanks to everyone who posted here and tried to helped me!!!!
Excellent! Yes, when the cell network assistance feature of AGPS isn't available, for some reason the chipset on our Titans can take quite a while to download the satellite ephemeris data directly from the satellites. Though I think that you're one of the first who's recorded it requiring more than a half hour!
hehe!! i'll say more than 5 hours, cause when I saw the time data on Garmin it said that the stopped time was only like an hour and a half, so it took mora than 5 hours to get that lock...
But I think I spoke to early, yesterday when I got out of work I wanted to try to get a lock to see how long it takes, but to my surprise it didn't locked on any satellites!! not even one!! I left it again overnight and nothing!! so I'm back to zero :'(
I'll be informing you how it behaves today...
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Careful in rushing to blame user error. Some Titans -- regardless of software settings -- just cannot match the GPS performance of other Titans. I've witnessed this myself with two Titans side-by-side. Sadly, it can be a luck of the draw...
The repeating loop of flipping back and forth between the same sets of satellites often occurs when the chipset is stuck in standby mode, so a resolution is to soft-reset the Titan. nelsongruebr's description of satellite "locks" are probably not locks but basic reception of the visible satellites before a lock - if ever - is attained. The description here of poor performance is very similar to what had stumped me on some Titans... Sadly, there may be no resolution.
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I am a newbie here but as a computer engineer I totally agree. We buy many PCs, scanners, printers, etc. all of the same brand. I can have several of the exact same items on the bench and so will not do as the identical sister/brother unit will do. My theory as a tech has been Bubba went to work mad at his wife and said what the hell I am going to just throw this crap together. Then on the flip side you have the new guy wanting to make a good impression and he spends 2 hours on one product where he should have gotten out four in that same two hours...
I think it depends on the device as well...just luck of the purchase...
ok, i kinda figure out what was the problem...
As I told you before, I live in Caracas, Venezuela... and recently the government decided to change the hour (yeah I know... What the hell where they thinking) from GMT -4.00 Caracas, La Paz, to GMT -4.30 Caracas... so Microsoft created a Patch to add the new Time Zone for Caracas... I have been installing this patch for about a year now without a problem (i had previously a HTC Touch and a HTC Excalibur) without any problems... So i instal it on my Titan and thats it...
To my surprise when i did a hard reset to delete everything and installed only Garmin Mobile and VirtualGPSce tha GPS work flawlessly... I said Great!!! It work's!!! so I installed the aplications that I normally have on my Titan INCLUDING the Patch for the New Timezone, and here is where the fun begins... the GPS stop working!!!! I didn't know it was the Time Zone patch until i performed another Hard Reset and Installed only a few aplications and the GPS kept working perfectly...
Today I'm going to install ALL the aplications that I use except the Patch to see if that does the trick...
I'll be posting tonight to tell you how it goes...