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Hi to all, my problem is that I can't enter the bootloader. in other words I can enter it(power+navigation buttom and reset) but i only see the word Serial and v1.01, and when usb is connected I see USB v1.01 , i can't see d2s or any other information and options. I wanted to flash my rom to SD using Multi-Port/USB TTY . I did a search on this forum but no luck so if anybody can give me a hand I'll appriciate it. Ciaoz Mine is XDAII the german verwsion.
Please anybody can give me a step by step info on how to copy the original rom to SD card, I need to change language from german to english and I want to keep the original german rom just in case. Thx
Does it have to be on sd there are other way of doing it which I will be able to talk you through (I think) if you need a hand
Well I was thinking to flash it to the sd in case the phone goes dead and you're out of activesync so the only way of flahsing it will be through SD. But another way of flashing is more than appriciated so I'll be waiting for ur guide.. do u happen to know why I can't see the options in the bootloader? thanks really
1st ... I have no idea why you cant get into the bootloader. On my xda 2 after a cold reboot i just get the serial and then when in the cradle I get usb, from their I dont know what to do. I would class myself as a newbie as well but I can talk you through what I did.
Which rom is it that you want to flash?
The extended rom or the Os rom?
i'm willing to flash the OS rom and not the extended. My version is 1.03.00 Ger and I want to flash to the "Dangaard (Qtek) 1.60" or RUU16006WWE_T-mobile_NL version which is an english one although I heard some people had their phones dead while doing so. I must find a way to back my rom 1st.. Did u do the update urself??
Yes I did the update using a programme called
HimaUpgradeUt.exe
I was originally after flashing the extended rom only, but due to not fully understanding the instructions at
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=6470&highlight=
I made a mistake and flash the Radio Stack - the OS and the extended rom as well. After this I worked out how to use HimUpgradeUt.exe to flash the extended rom only. I am guessing that if you follow the same procdure for flashing the rom and flash the OS you will get the same results.
However I haven't tried it yet. I am hoping to get the radio rom and the OS rom for O2 xda2 and try it but until them I cant confirm it. I am only guessing that it will work?
So its up to you I have successfully updated the extended rom 4 time but I just dont have the files to do it?
Where did you get you Os file from?
I already tried Multi-Port/USB TTY program , but in the instructions it says"
3. boot the machine into bootloader mode (hold the Power and directional pad , then push reset)
4. Run the rompdate utility, select the comport as "wceusb001" or something like that as the default comport." The problem is that After going into bootloader mode I launched the romupdate utility but in the com-ports I only see com1 and com2 ,there is no wceusb001!!. And where did u see the d2s that I hear about??
I've got the downloads from the forum this one http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=6214&sid=0dad85b97d280219dc51962a01a4997b and the other form here http://shop.store.yahoo.com/cellpoint/tmobilemdaii.html
It seems that we are taking cross purposes here.
Using HimaUpgradeUt.exe you can update the roms using .NBF files,
hence the way in which I updated all 3 of my roms in one go.
Radio.nbf
Ms.nbf
Exteneded Rom.nbf (can’t remember the actual name) it looks like you are using a different up loader or have different files to upload. I can only really help with advice on the process that I followed. I can provide you with the files that I had, if you want it will change your 02 format to I-Mate in English.
Does this help?
well I know we have differnet purposes but we should use the same tool I guess if we followed this link. http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=6470&highlight= and the tool is Multi-Port/USB TTY program to back up rom or extended rom. Please provide me the info to back up the rom no matter if to SD or HD. Thanks for ur time man.
I think that you can try using ositools I will find the link and then post it, but again I am still not sure how you reinstal it afterwards
whafni77 said:
Hi to all, my problem is that I can't enter the bootloader. in other words I can enter it(power+navigation buttom and reset) but i only see the word Serial and v1.01, and when usb is connected I see USB v1.01 , i can't see d2s or any other information and options. I wanted to flash my rom to SD using Multi-Port/USB TTY . I did a search on this forum but no luck so if anybody can give me a hand I'll appriciate it. Ciaoz Mine is XDAII the german verwsion.
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I am in the same situation with you, have you solved yet?
Serial / USB V1.01
I had the same problem, and I found the cause to be a USB Hub. I found that when I plugged the cradle directly into my PC I managed to load the update without any further problems.
I hope this helps
you have to disable usb or com port in activesync, before trying to connect with mtty, or terminal program.
see http://wiki.xda-developers.com/wiki/HimalayaBootloader
Here's something weird...
I have an early model PH10A XDA II...
was on ROM 0.81.00 USA
Radio: 1.05.09
Protocol: 1337.10b
Date 8-11-03
I'm trying to upgrade it to the latest i-mate ROM.
I have gotten to the point where it says "The current software is now being erased....the update should take 30 minutes." but the first time...it gave me an error and it asked me to reboot the device and try again...since then...
....it stays there for hours with no update, no errors, or feedback of any kind. All I get on the RUULog.log is "17:24:10 Connection with USB"..then nothing happens...
I have tried re-boots, hard boots, taking the battery out and waiting a few mins, making sure the battery is charged, I'm on XP and the latest Activesync 3.7.1, also I kill the wces...exe. app and still sits there..
I have tried the O2 version, the UK-02-version, himalayaupgradeut_197.exe...all to no avail...
Any other things I should attempt? I'm bootloader 0.23....
I'm still scouring the groups to see if anyone had this problem..
thanks!
re:Weird problem with early model HTC XDA II with 0.23 btldr
Thanks to these posts I can safely say I found a partial solution that works. From other similar posting, it seems the early bootloader 0.23 was a pre-release demo and not for public consumption...so this USB upgrade process does not work for this version.
What worked for me using this bootloader version was a combination of the posting here http://en.pdamobiz.com/en/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=93&PN=1 - using their choice #3.
1. Download ROM 1[1].72 SD.rar (ROM 1.72)
2. Extract ROM 1[1].72 SD.rar with WinRAR, you will find two files; ntrw.exe and ROM.nb1
3. Put them in any folder; say c:\ROM\
4. Go to DOS command and the folder contains the files
5. Type C:\ROM>ntrw write ROM.nb1 E: (Assume your card reader drive is E as shown in the below figure. Wait until finish writing the rom.
6. Put SD card into your XDAII, go to bootloader mode (Power + Reset + Directional Pad) and follow instruction on your device screen.
However, for this bootloader it definitely wanted a RAW formatted SD card, not a card formatted by XP/2000 card readers. I also tried other devices format Treo 600, etc...but what did the trick was to do a save to SD command using the USB/Serial program ROMUPDATE.exe located somewhere on this board.
This allowed the card to work with the bootloader...
Once this was done...I was able to insert the card on the card reader (and get an error - ingnore since it was raw format)...and type step #5.
Once this was done I was able to boot the device again.
To note..most of the solutions posted here work for public release bootloaders above 1.0...but this was an early release bootloader...and this is how you get this one to work. NOT using USB.
Now the next task is ...how do I upgrade the bootloader?
pda t-mobile mda ph10a
hi i have an old pda ph 10a ,and i want to know how to hard reset device, when i pres (power,navigation key ,and reset) mesage apears on screen says( serial v1,06) and nothing hapens
does anyone know how to reset and try to restore setings from pda (its on a german ,so that is more dificult)
removing SD card from device should solve your problem
pedjaar said:
hi i have an old pda ph 10a ,and i want to know how to hard reset device, when i pres (power,navigation key ,and reset) mesage apears on screen says( serial v1,06) and nothing hapens
does anyone know how to reset and try to restore setings from pda (its on a german ,so that is more dificult)
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for hard reset u need not to press the navigation key just press power and reset.
and if this does not help try reinstalling the rom in boot loder mode(serial 1.06).
My Wallaby spontaneously reverted to the White Screen and neither a soft nor a hard reset would get it to change. By pressing the power and soft reset buttons, I have succeeded in rousing the tricolor Wallaby Bootloader V5.22 screen, but I don't know where to go from here.
I downloaded XDAtools but the self-extraction aborted. I'll keep trying. I'm not sure what I should do if I succeed in opening it.
Can anyone offer advice on how to kick this phone back to life?
I had updated months ago to Windows Mobile 2003, which worked fine. The screen is mostly white, with the "Designed for Windows Mobile" logo and the following information:
G1.3.3
RA 33.02
A.30.09
Thank you.
Boston
white screen problems
I just had the same thing happen to two of my pocketpc (THC) Tmobile brand one is 2002 the other is 2003.
I have NO strange software on either and they have both been working well.
I did get a 'successful' prompt from the Bootloader when I used an SD card to reload the OS and Boot files. But can't get past the white screen - tried the Yorch.net on one and the only difference is the addition of the 'Not for Sale' disclaimer.
Will using an rs232 cable to connect allow me to communicate with these paper-weights???
Help would really be appreciated! To the extent that I would be happy to trade one of the units for a successful resolution.
flash back to 2002 will save the phone's life!
Can you walk me through a 2002 flash?
Thank you for your advice. I'm obviously less adept than nmournian, so I can't get as far as he or she did, and won't be able to follow cgigate's suggestion. Could I trouble you for a step-by-step instruction?
I have a ROM from the kitchen on an SD card (2003 OS, I think), but I don't know how to flash the unit either with this or with a 2002 OS once I enter Bootloader. I have not found a guide (that I can understand) about how to navigate Bootloader.
So I need to know:
1. How to get the 2002 OS onto the SD card
2. How to flash the unit once I do.
I'd be very grateful.
Boston
Re: Can you walk me through a 2002 flash?
Boston said:
So I need to know:
1. How to get the 2002 OS onto the SD card
2. How to flash the unit once I do.
I'd be very grateful.
Boston
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As you said, you did "upgraded to 2003".
It is exactly same to flash back 2002!
1. Download 2002 rom from somewhere
2. Using XDAtools to flash the SX56, or XDAtools to copy the rom to SD via SD method!
Further help?
Thank you for your advice.
I searched the web for the 2002 ROM, but I'm not sure I found it. I downloaded a file called NK.nbf and loaded it it onto an SD card using OSImage Tool from XDAtools. I put that in the SX56 and entered Bootloader, but it did not flash. It just sat there.
Something I came across said that the ROM file that triggers a flash has an NB1 suffix. I couldn't find a 2002 ROM with that suffix. I tried writing the NK.nbf onto the SD as NK.nb1, but that didn't trigger the unit into flashing from Bootloader. I also read that NK.NB1 is somehow contained within NK.nbf, and that there is a program (splitrom) that yields NK.NB1 as the output from NK.nbf, but it is a DOS program and when I tried to run it on my XP computer I got an error message ("PERL is not in your PATH) that I couldn't overcome.
So...I'm still at home base. Advice?
You can get a Rom here:
http://lumpistefan.dyndns.org/
HTH
Stefan
Does anyone know how to do this?
Xda-AtomExec-ENG-20060614_R060428N_EX0028.exe
This file..when i try to run it it wont dump the files onto C:\Windows\Temp and goes connection error (so does the newer ones)..
Any ideas on how to approach this?
I have a 2gb miniSD with card reader if anyone knows how its done
btw phone is bricked atm so i can only downgrade through bootloader mode
Press and Hold the Reset + Camera
You should see it in a black screen.
Execute the Xda-AtomExec-ENG-20060614_R060428N_EX0028.exe
Proceed to next and carry on the flashing.. Good Luck
Na doesnt work
Do you have a copy of this file
edited_Xda-Atom-ENG-20060614_R060428N_EX0028.zip
Any ideas guys
I have tried SD method doesnt work
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=276664&highlight=downgrading
now i cant fix my phone no more?
has anyone managed to do it correctly via SD card method?
Anyone? I want to fix my phone
Use WinRAR to open the .exe file, extract to somewhere "C:\O2_ROM". Copy the files from O2_ROM to C:\WINDOWS\TEMP and try again. Bear in mind, boot to bootloader mode without SD card & SIM while connecting with USB cable. ** Push Reset with Camera when connects to Active Sync....hohoho....If the problem still exists......probably....your boot loader had been updated to a other version...such as O2 ATOM EXEC....have you ever try to update your O2 with O2 EXEC?
Yeah my bootloader is the latest version because prior to bricked phone i had this
Xda-AtomExec-ENG-20060614_R060428N_EX0028.exe
..have you ever try to update your O2 with O2 EXEC?
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Does it work? Where do i get that ROM?
Up!! Otherwise i have to send back to repair!
can you dump the files by using the winRAR? just copy the files to C:\WINDOWS\TEMP, then try to execute the command in "C:\WINDOWS\TEMP" for the update process while your phone is in boot loader mode connected with USB.
I have just tried flashing WM6 on to a Friends QTEK 8500, it went wrong Doh!!!.
I had already last Friday put on it the version with non wroking GPRS and this went without issue. I then reflashed my own one with a GRPS working version (went without a problem) and then tried his. I can get it into the boot loader screen but nothing else. I have tried SD card flashing (3 cards) 1x 512MB Card and 2 x 2GB card all formatted as FAT32 with file on the root the phone searches for it but doesnt find it.
Please any advise.
vallancen said:
I have just tried flashing WM6 on to a Friends QTEK 8500, it went wrong Doh!!!.
I had already last Friday put on it the version with non wroking GPRS and this went without issue. I then reflashed my own one with a GRPS working version (went without a problem) and then tried his. I can get it into the boot loader screen but nothing else. I have tried SD card flashing (3 cards) 1x 512MB Card and 2 x 2GB card all formatted as FAT32 with file on the root the phone searches for it but doesnt find it.
Please any advise.
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First of all, REMEMBER, your phone is NOT bricked until it goes to BOOTLOADER mode.
Have you made SuperCID before flashing? What firmware are you trying to flash via bootloader mode?
Erofich said:
First of all, REMEMBER, your phone is NOT bricked until it goes to BOOTLOADER mode.
Have you made SuperCID before flashing? What firmware are you trying to flash via bootloader mode?
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When you say booloader mode what does that look like. At the moment if I reboot the phone I get the HTC Mobility windows by Erofich screen.
When you hold down camera and record button and then power on the device I get brifely the white scrren looking for SD card it then goes to the tri-colour screen and does nothing.
I beleive I have CID it as I did the same on this as I did on mine i.e. ran the unlock according to the sticky.
I than put on this
Windows Mobile 6 AKU 0.5.0 (5.2.1711 Build 18165.0.5.0) WWE v5c
Yours i beleive (excellent work by the way)
and it all worked fine bar GPRS I relay needed GPRS so I used
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=368715
using the clean one which updated fine on my phone but when i tried it on my friends it fell over at about 83% I followed the recovery intructions but this did not work.
When you get into bootloader screen by pressing RECORD and CAMERA buttons, then you MUST flash back to the STOCK ROM first. You can't flash any custom WM6 at this point. Only AFTER you have the stock ROM flashed, you can use SDA_ApplicationUnlock.exe to app unlock the phone, and copy the SoftSPL into the phone. Then run SPL.lnk.
To summarize: The built-in bootloader CANNOT flash WM6 and can ONLY flash a stock ROM. Once you go back to stock, you can then try to flash WM6 again. Anytime a flash fails, you must go back to stock first, then try again.
GnatGoSplat said:
When you get into bootloader screen by pressing RECORD and CAMERA buttons, then you MUST flash back to the STOCK ROM first. You can't flash any custom WM6 at this point. Only AFTER you have the stock ROM flashed, you can use SDA_ApplicationUnlock.exe to app unlock the phone, and copy the SoftSPL into the phone. Then run SPL.lnk.
To summarize: The built-in bootloader CANNOT flash WM6 and can ONLY flash a stock ROM. Once you go back to stock, you can then try to flash WM6 again. Anytime a flash fails, you must go back to stock first, then try again.
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I am trying RUU_STAR100_3.6.251.0_02.67.30_QtekEUR_Ship I believe this is an original version 5 rom?
GnatGoSplat said:
you can use SDA_ApplicationUnlock.exe to app unlock the phone
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This method works on Cingular ROM only, not Qtek.
vallancen
Hold CAMERA and RECORD button and press power button. When it goes to Bootloader tricolor mode connect your device to PC and run official Qtek 8500 RUU. Then make a reg (app) unlock:
Download regeditSTG2 which is digitally signed: http://4pda.ru/forum/attach/387522/regeditSTG2.zip
Then install it and change some registry values:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Security\Policies\Policies\00001001 = 2
-> change to 1
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Security\Policies\Policies\00001005 = 16
-> change to 40
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Security\Policies\Policies\00001017 = 128
-> change to 144
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE \Security\Policies\Policies
-> create new key "0000101a": Dword = 1
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE \Security\Policies\Policies
-> create new key "0000101b": Dword = 1"
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copy SoftSPL to the root of your device and run SPL.lnk
Then run WM6 RUU
Erofich said:
This method works on Cingular ROM only, not Qtek.
vallancen
Hold CAMERA and RECORD button and press power button. When it goes to Bootloader tricolor mode connect your device to PC and run official Qtek 8500 RUU. Then make a reg (app) unlock:
copy SoftSPL to the root of your device and run SPL.lnk
Then run WM6 RUU
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When I plug into PC (XP SP2) and run the Qtek 8500 RUU it just times out and says it cant find device.
vallancen said:
When I plug into PC (XP SP2) and run the Qtek 8500 RUU it just times out and says it cant find device.
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I have two phones one did work and one did not the one that worked shows version 1.02 on the tri colour screen the one I am having problems with shows 3.06 not sure if this is relevant.
Try removing the battery for about 30-seconds (or just removing the battery cover) and then put it back on. With the phone OFF, hold RECORD and CAMERA and plug in the USB while holding those buttons. It should go to the Bootloader. Run the QTEK RUU immediately after doing that.
If you sit at bootloader very long (more than a minute or so), for some reason it times out and the RUU won't work. It could be that's what's happening.
GnatGoSplat said:
Try removing the battery for about 30-seconds (or just removing the battery cover) and then put it back on. With the phone OFF, hold RECORD and CAMERA and plug in the USB while holding those buttons. It should go to the Bootloader. Run the QTEK RUU immediately after doing that.
If you sit at bootloader very long (more than a minute or so), for some reason it times out and the RUU won't work. It could be that's what's happening.
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Tried that a couple of times just to make sure I was doing it correctly it goes into the tri colour screen I pressed the reflash option on the PC 1 second later this then sits there for a minute or so and times out "ERROR [260]" the phone did come on and has a USB in the bottom left corner so I presume the connection to the PC is OK.
I have just re-done mine again using the NEO rom (very nice) to make sure I am not going mad and that I did it correctly and this all went without a hitch.
Is there anyway I can get the phone to boot of a SPL on an SD Card I think if I could do this then I could get it back to 5 and start again.
No, it will only boot off the built-in SPL in ROM.
Did you try using the OEM .nbh file, naming it STARIMG.nbh and putting it on the SD card?
GnatGoSplat said:
No, it will only boot off the built-in SPL in ROM.
Did you try using the OEM .nbh file, naming it STARIMG.nbh and putting it on the SD card?
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Yes tried that made sure formatted FAT32 etc. I know the SD card is ok because if I take my working phone and run the SPL link with the card in my good phone it finds the file and asks me if i want to reflash it. The non working phone with SPL3.06 does not do this.
You are not alone.
The bad news - the person in the post ended up having to exchange the phone.
It could be there's a bug in 3.06 SPL? Seems to be the case because I've flashed bad ROMs many dozens of times on my Cingular 3125 StarTrek and not once did I have any trouble flashing OEM ROM back on it.
Can I write the flash at a lower level with any tools i.e. pdocwrite or seomthing like that?
I don't believe so. Those programs require an Activesync connection (copies files to the phone). You could try the MTTY method, but I don't know if that works on StarTrek. I think it's some kind of terminal access into the bootloader, but what I've said so far is the extent of my knowledge about it.
vallancen said:
I have two phones one did work and one did not the one that worked shows version 1.02 on the tri colour screen the one I am having problems with shows 3.06 not sure if this is relevant.
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I have a similar problem on a 3125 and the phone reports V4.01. I acquired the phone in this condition, so don't know how that came to be. When I try to update via USB, it tells me I need a newer update tool (to match the 4.01, I assume). What error message are you getting when you try to update via USB?
I have been struggling to flash (again) the great pro V2 rom, but I always used my VMWare based XP windows version on my Vista laptop. Today I could use a genuine XP Laptop and I could make a connection and start the upgrade!
Sounds good? That's what I thought too, until the upgrade stopped at 70% (and I didn't touch anything), because of a connection error. I followed the text on my PC screen and I finally it started flashing again for a few seconds and then my startrek suddenly restarted, but it stops at the first splash screen! I tried to get my device back to bootloader mode (push 2 soft buttons and start), but no bootloader mode, only the 1st splash.
I solved the problem.
Thank you for this thread
I tried flashing a new ROM to my i-mate smartflip and thought I had killed it, but going back to the wm5 OEM as suggested on this thread worked and I still have my phone. Now, am I brave enough to try upgrading it to wm6.1 (or even 6.5) again... Once again, many thanks!
somebody can me give the oem rom because i am same problem too on the secreen 3.06 i cant flashing anytihing rom somebody must me help