I'm looking for a serial cable for my Cingular 8125. I'd like to be able to connect to network equipment via a console cable and not have to drag out my laptop.
If this won't work ahs anyone tried this with a BT serial adapter for the network equipment.
I know I'm not the only network tech around on these forums.
J-Man5
Bump.
This would be a fantasic enhancement. It would save me a small fortune if I could connect the device to other hardware.
Just made a cable for my MDA but need info on com port setup
Hey J-Man5, I have been looking everywhere for such a cable to no avail. So I decided to put one together myself. Just finished it today, but I have not tested it on any network routers yet. It is made for Cisco console ports. My problem though is that I so far haven't truly figured out how to get the MDA to use com-port 1 mode on the mini-USB connector. Again I have searched everywhere for any info on this but it must be a secret. I am planning on using a terminal program called PowerTerm Mobile which looks great, but again, I haven't tested it. Were you ever able to get anything to work for you? And does anyone know how to get MDA into Comm-port mode?
Thanks
Any updates on this? I'm interested in using a Wizard with the AutoEnginuity OBD-II scanner, and that needs a serial interface (don't want to fork out for the less optimal BT interface).
I found this:
http://www.gomadic.com/pocphonserad.html
...anybody tried it?
-HoB
That cable posted above won't work beause it's not compatible with the wizard aka T-Mobile MDA III. They started using the mini usb at that point.
CompUSA is selling the Motorola DC800 Bluetooth Stereo Transceiver for $39.99. It shows up as a COM port in its bluetooth settings.
The problem with this, though, is it still connects with a mini 5-pin USB cable (not included).
Not quite sure how to map this into your application, but at about retail for a cable/pigtail, might be worth checking into.
p.s. Sound quality resembles that described by many HT820 owners, with pops, skips, random dropouts, and excessive noise. (At least with the MS Bluetooth stack) So a data application would (hopefully) be its forte....
silex said:
That cable posted above won't work beause it's not compatible with the wizard aka T-Mobile MDA III. They started using the mini usb at that point.
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Yeah, now that I have a Wizard (yay!) I realised that the port was different. Too bad. I guess the nearest thing would be a Bluetooth-Serial adapter like one of these:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16833139008
Spendy, though. :-(
-HoB
why not go for an OBD product with bluetooth built in? like OBDKey (www.obdkey.com)
Related
Now we all know how great this gadget is as a portable mp3 player,
Its also great for the car.... I no longer use my Cooltrax Mp3 player for long journeys... If anyone wants to try this - Maplin
www.maplin.co.uk
in the uk sells a £10 cassette adapter
http://www.maplin.co.uk/products/module.asp?CartID=030421125121999&moduleno=33816&modulecode=
That also has a handsfree mic (the mic wont work though) ... and enables you to plug the xda into your car hi-fi easily. But more importantly it has the 2.5mm headphone socket, unfortunately only a standard one, not the strange nonstandard xda version with four poles! The only downside is the usual "mobile phone noise interference" when it tries connecting to gprs while the music is playing, unless anyone knows of an easy way of shielding the cable! (get the baking foil out!)
Whats the ONLY downside of using this in the car?
Storage! With the cost of MMC cards being high, and a few games roms filling your mmc card, I started to ponder about using an external hard disk with the xda.
Obviously using a MMC>PCMCIA adapter, then plugging in a pcmcia laptop hard disk is convoluted - not to mention probably quite expensive.
Then I discovered the USB Mass Storage drivers, for pocket pc http://www.deje.gmxhome.de/download.html
which were developed for the Casio pocket Pc.... That got me thinking.... does it mean that you could install the drivers... fit the USB cradle in the car, and use some kind of usb gender changer plug to connect the xda to an external hard disk...
http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/prod...m9kdWN0X3NwZWNpZmljYXRpb25z&product_uid=35706
Wow just think, you could put all your music from your home pc in your glove compartment! and power it from the cigarrette lighter (obviously splitting the power into your xda as well) Occasionally loading it up by connecting it to your home pc!
Has anyone tried this, unfortunately I dont have a usb hard disk... :?:
obviously the xda is only usb 1.0 but presumably usb hard disks are downwardly compatibile, and the data rate required for mp3 would not be too much for the poor old version of usb to stream to the device for playback?
The xda user manual and website just says interface is USB (no version specified)
According to the Iomega website this drive does support USB 1.1
http://www.iomega-europe.com/eu/products.aspx?productId=HDD80USB20External
What are your thoughts guys?
No
Derek,
The answer is no. Enter 'slave' in the search function of this board and you will find the reason.
Sorry for the short response to your enthousiastic and long question/suggestion but the weather here is just TOO good te be inside the house.
c ya
thanks climber,
I wasnt aware of the term "slave" in relation to USB. Presumably this is just a software term with regards to the OS, or is it a more fundamental hardwired connection from the connector onto the xda data bus, that software would not be able to repurpose into being a "master device"
Derek
Make every CD as 512M Harddisk for your XDA!
Here is the solution!
http://www.pocketpcpassion.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=30816
Don't think so
Well..... it depends on your requirements I guess.
Not mine!!!
Robert
Thanks for the suggestion Joey, but I have to agree with climber... whats the point of connecting a laptop to it. Sort of defeats the object of using the xda as a in car mp3 player, why not use the laptop instead!
I'd like to have a seperate removable hard disk just connected to the xda.
shame the host/slave issue cant be resolved.
What about the PCMCIA adapter method?
Ayone tried that out?
Also a no go. An MMC PCMCIA adapter uses SDIO (as do all cards which are not 'simple storage' cards). The XDA unfortunately does not support SDIO - one of those short sighted O2 thing.
I think they wanted to prevent us from sticking Bluetooth cards in and using them instead of their pricey GPRS netowork!
Shame...
I'm keeping my optimism for the future.... Keeping my chin up despite all the tales of woe...
Hopefully one day soon someone will post a solution with some new fangled device/software combination, either that or wait until 40 gig mmc cards appear...
I'm guessing at 2007, plus of course another 2 years for the cards to become affordable.
Of course by then none of us will want the xda.
:wink:
yeah same here.....
First of all, I am happy with my XDA...........now!
This might change in the future when others enter that market as well. I have worked for Compaq and my old buddies over there (now HP of cousre) snicker about the XDA.
That has two reasons:
A) they are plain jealous because the iPAQ can't yet
B) they know what is coming up next at HP
If would bet (my mom just don't allows me to :wink: ), I would put my money on HP bringing out something like that in the future. The question is when and will it do my laundry as well?
QUESTION TO DEREK: you describe the cassette thing.... what is your experience on sound quality???
You might have seen my home grown carkit and i think of using that for the speaker. http://www.xda-developers.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=853
Robert[/url]
'USB on the go'
Hi,
The soon-to-come new standard called 'USB on the go' would solve your problems.. If you get for example a hd-chassis with this on built-in, you could possibly connect that chassis directly via USB to your XDA )
You can read more on http://www.usb.org/developers/onthego
Fred
Hello,
I just noticed there are many Mini-USB to 3.5 (or 2.5) audio adapters on sale at e-Bay, like this.
All of them seem to be for Motorola phones, though. Anyone has tried on the TyTN?
I seem to remember reading somewhere in GENERAL that they would not. Someone asked HTC and they said it was propietry - but they would have an adapter out soon(ish).
Rich
I can't see why it shouldn't work... it's just £5 so what's the loss if it doesn't...
EDIT: I've bought one today. I'll tell if it works or not....
The port is NOT proprietary. It is a standard mini-USB, and takes standard mini-USB cables.
They tweaked the socket a little bit to go along with their new proprietary headset.
In other words, you can plug in any standard mini-usb cable/accessory, but you can't plug the headset into any standard mini-usb port.
Sorta "dain-bramaged" if you ask me, but since I use a bluetooth headset, it's a non-issue.
Charge and audio simulataneously?
So, how do I both charge the unit and listen to music (wired headphones) at the same time? Does anyone know?
There is an alternative to an adapter. As they say on Blue Peter, here's one I made earlier.......
http://www.4winmobile.com/tutorial-replace-hermes-headset-connector-with-35mm-socket-vt3146.html
I asked htc for an adapter
here ist the answer:
Dear Sir
At present HTC does not manufacture, supply or support such a connection and HTC cannot supply such a diagram.
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Re: Charge and audio simulataneously?
Manne said:
So, how do I both charge the unit and listen to music (wired headphones) at the same time? Does anyone know?
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Easy answer: get an iPod! :lol:
Hello,
I tried one of those "motorola / razr" headphone adapters on sale at ebay. while the adapter fits nicely it doesn't work. Tytn just doesn't seem to recognize it.
Any thoughts of why it doesn't work and alternatives greatly appreciated.
Hello,
I tried one of those "motorola / razr" headphone adapters on sale at ebay. while the adapter fits nicely it doesn't work. Tytn just doesn't seem to recognize it.
Any thoughts of why it doesn't work and alternatives greatly appreciated.
I seem to remember reading somewhere in GENERAL that they would not. Someone asked HTC and they said it was propietry
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If you look at the connector the motorola one has 5 pins across the top of the it. If you look at the Tytn on it has 5 pins across the top and 6 across the bottom. In order to be compatible with current chargers the top 5 pins supply the charging and the bottom 6 supply headset and serial connections.
I do not intend to use the "Line out" function of my TyTN often but it DOES lack an audio output. Sometimes I need to connect the device to speakers and etc.
It should be a modified mini USB port that the TyTN has and that must have saved some space over traditional 2.5mm sockets. We all know 2.5 sockets are not common and you need an apaptor to change it to 3.5mm anyway so prolly HTC gave up on the 2.5 and made the USB standard.
I am pretty sure that some accessory will come out.
Does anyone know if the Ebay adaptor cable will work on the TyTN?
Most of the ebay adapters are standard usb mini for use with the razor etc. These will not work. It needs to be an adapter specifically for the Tytn.
thanks! It is really stupid for HTC not to launch any accessories for the TyTN(or other releases).
Like the Atom Exec has factory cradle kit, battery, silicon cases, leather straps and etc. I don't even know where to get an extra battery!
Thought of one of these:
http://www.audiocubes.com/product_info.php?products_id=1736
zakeen said:
Thought of one of these:
http://www.audiocubes.com/product_info.php?products_id=1736
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has anyone tested it?
is it working with tytn ?
for a hundred something i can get a pair of entry level high end SHURE headphones or even one with the mic.. all I need is a 2.5 Plug.
for a hundred something i can get a pair of entry level high end SHURE headphones or even one with the mic.. all I need is a 2.5 Plug.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Stereo-Audio-Ad...58QQihZ007QQcategoryZ3311QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Anyone used these yet?
Friend: The standard mini usb cable (most popular) can be used in extUSB on D2 (Topaz) : Charging is OK and Sync is OK.
Note: I discover It after buy a 2nd cable
Well, I have so many 'standard' USB to mini USB cables I have never even taken the HTC item out of it's box.
However, the pin out on the mini port of the TD2 does allow for other things other than just sync and charge and then a specificaly wired cable would be required.
Common Mini usb works for other stuff too.
Where i live i have no high speed internet so i use my HTC pure as my internet source. Recently (after 3 weeks of use) my data cable began to come apart...
fearing i would have to buy something i couldnt afford and being mad that i have like 50 mini usb cords that i thought were useless, i found this thread and decided to test other features of the standard cable. So far I have found nothing that the cord cannot do.
my 2 cents.
geraldf80 said:
Where i live i have no high speed internet so i use my HTC pure as my internet source.
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Question: are you then using the HTC as a modem? If so, have you ever tried using it as a modem via Bluetooth? I have never managed this and nobody in the General forum has any advice. I can only use it via usb.
No I havent sorry. My laptop don't have bluetooth so the option never presented itself. perhaps searching for bluetooth internet sharing or making a post would be more helpful.. sorry.
On the TD2 you first need to pair your phone to your PC with Bluetooth
And then there's a program called 'Internet Sharing' on my TD2 menu, you just need to pair your phone and change what the internet sharing is going to (BT in this case) and away you go.
I've heard some carriers disable this and make you pay a surcharge for tethering, which I've heard you can get round with a registry hack
(i can't post links but I did google Touch Diamond 2 Bluetooth Internet Sharing)
Another quick and easy way to do it wirelessly is to use a program like WalkingHotSpot, which converts your TD2 into a WiFi hotspot which is my preferred method if i had to go down this path
Good luck!
The additional contacts in the original connector are for the headphones. Not used in USB & Charging.
e.g. the original car charger comes with a default USB/minUSB cable, not th especial connector as added to the TD2.
GeScha said:
e.g. the original car charger comes with a default USB/minUSB cable, not th especial connector as added to the TD2.
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That is true. I have been searching for a TD2 car charger with its specially profiled connector but could not find one. I am afraid that the standard mini USB connector will damaged the TD2 connector after prolonged use just like what had happened to my 838Pro. You need a little help with the wires and connector when charging or ActiveSync to get them connected.
Whoa this thread is a life saver. I'm in the middle of nowhere and lost my cable so couldn't charge my phone was looking for somewhere to order online it would have cost me at least 2 weeks.
Now i'm using my camera's standard usb cable.
Thank You.
I have all the normal!
Wow, I was kind of shocked, when I tried it - it worked!!! I have bought already 2 special htc oem cables - 1st one was already broken, and have never tried the original mini usb cable since now. It works perfectly too But I suppose if the mini usb cable is used, you have to be more careful for the connector, because there is some free space inside.
i'm using oem hp camera's cable. working fine on my diamond2
Thanks friends.
Hi,
i have problem with wifi on my tg01 orange. It won't start. However it started twice after many attemps, when i tested this phone immediatelly after receiving, but later never again. I tested several roms with different radioroms. At this moment depending on rom version after clicking on wifi icon i have message "in preparation, please wait" or just nothing. Can i do something with it or it is hardware issue ?
What is more, after plugging headphones cable nothing happen. Does tg01 should autodetect headphones cable ?
Regards, Tom
avathar said:
Hi,
i have problem with wifi on my tg01 orange. It won't start. However it started twice after many attemps, when i tested this phone immediatelly after receiving, but later never again. I tested several roms with different radioroms. At this moment depending on rom version after clicking on wifi icon i have message "in preparation, please wait" or just nothing. Can i do something with it or it is hardware issue ?
What is more, after plugging headphones cable nothing happen. Does tg01 should autodetect headphones cable ?
Regards, Tom
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Tom,
WiFi - Forgive if 'teaching granny'; use Wireless Manager to turn on WiFi. Then Start|Settings|WiFi Settings and you should get a display of any available WiFi devices. If nothing showing, tap 'Add New' to allow insertion of the SSID info for a known device and force a search. Are you able to check connectivity with your hub using another WiFi enabled phone or PC in the same location ? Assuming that works OK, try seeing if the WiFi adapter for that device can be detected by the TG01 in close proximity. If you are not getting anything at this point, then I'm afraid it suggests a probable hardware issue with the radio in your TG01. Depending on where/how purchased, you may be able to go back to the vendor if within warranty; alternatively it may be worth contacting the authorised Toshiba Repair Centre in the UK - Regenersis Ltd in Scotland. They would have the necessary facilities to test/repair.
Audio Output - the TG01 uses the newer micro-USB port standards. This defines a single port capable of multiple functions: Charging, Analogue Audio Out (+mic), Data (USB sync) and also USB Host capability. It does this under processor control by sensing the type of device being attached. One aspect is based on the resistance seen between the 0V pin and Pin 5 ( a special 'sense' pin). For audio output, it uses the resistance across the D+ and D- (Pins 2 and 3). If you plug in earphones or similar which have too low a resistance, it will not recognise them and therefore will not switch the audio output from the phone speaker to the uUSB port. The supplied audio adapter includes appropriate resistors. You can also buy simple uUSB to 3.5mm adapters which include or can make or adapt your own. There are references to this with more detail in this post in a different thread.
Good luck, and hope you are able to get the TG working properly
Regards,
Kevin
Thanks for reply.
1.wifi problem isn't in network search or connect, but in turning on. I can not turn it on. When i'm trying to turn it on i see "in preparation, please wait" - this is what happening on original orange ROM. Now i'm using miROM1_cfc and there is just no reaction when i try to turn it on.
2.headphones - i'm not sure that i understand everything. So if i will put 500ohm resistor between D+ and GND(0V) and between D- and GND(0V) and such a prepared cable i will connect to phone ,it will cause headphone mode ? if yes, it didn't work for me.
Is this specification of audio detection same for miniUSB and htc diamond ?
avathar said:
Thanks for reply.
1.wifi problem isn't in network search or connect, but in turning on. I can not turn it on. When i'm trying to turn it on i see "in preparation, please wait" - this is what happening on original orange ROM. Now i'm using miROM1_cfc and there is just no reaction when i try to turn it on.
2.headphones - i'm not sure that i understand everything. So if i will put 500ohm resistor between D+ and GND(0V) and between D- and GND(0V) and such a prepared cable i will connect to phone ,it will cause headphone mode ? if yes, it didn't work for me.
Is this specification of audio detection same for miniUSB and htc diamond ?
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WiFi - It's pointing to hardware I'm afraid. But if you are willing to try another ROM, suggest try my WM6.5 edition (see link in my sig) and see what happens with that. It's using Radio 0300.76. If that also shows the same symptoms then I think you will need to look for a repair.
Headphones - yes should work OK. A baseline check would be to just plug in the supplied headphone adapter - does that work ? If so then there is nothing wrong with the phone and in which case I'd recommend checking you are using the correct pins on the uUSB plug and/or that there are no solder whiskers between contacts or similar (apologies if 'teaching Granny' here ). I'm not familar with any devices using a mini-usb in a similar manner - only one I've had with mini-USB was a Motorola RAZR3 but that was essentially just a 'dumb' hardwired USB port. The re-configurable approach only arrived with the introduction of the uUSB standard along with the TG01, HD2 and similar. Don't know about HTC Diamond, but in general HTC used a proprietary 11-pin connector which includes dedicated separate audio out as well as data and charging capabilities.
Best regards,
Kevin
kevinpwhite said:
WiFi - It's pointing to hardware I'm afraid. But if you are willing to try another ROM, suggest try my WM6.5 edition.
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yes i tried several ROMs and Radio ROMs
kevinpwhite said:
A baseline check would be to just plug in the supplied headphone adapter - does that work ?
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No it isn't working that is why i'm asking.
To eliminate all problems that can be found at this headphone adapter i created special cable.
I used uUSB->USB cable (included with phone) and USB cable removed from mouse, so i can easily attach here resistor for test purpose.
And once again if i will put e.g. 500ohm resistor between D+ and GND and second resistor between D- and GND(no headphoes connected), this should force headphone mode ?
avathar said:
yes i tried several ROMs and Radio ROMs
No it isn't working that is why i'm asking.
To eliminate all problems that can be found at this headphone adapter i created special cable.
I used uUSB->USB cable (included with phone) and USB cable removed from mouse, so i can easily attach here resistor for test purpose.
And once again if i will put e.g. 500ohm resistor between D+ and GND and second resistor between D- and GND(no headphoes connected), this should force headphone mode ?
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I'm very sorry - can't think of any other simple checks re the WiFi just now.
However still some hope with the headphone output - I can now see from your photo that you have used the uUSB to USB A Host adpater - the plug on this is internally wired with a short between pins 4 and 5 (0V and the Sense pin). That causes the device to go into Host mode - so it is expecting to see a USB Flash Drive or similar on the end - not headphones. You need a lead with a basic uUSB B (that's the shaped connector with black insert rather than this one which is rectangulat with a white insert).
When I mentioned the 'original connector' previously, I was referring to checking with the supplied earphone/mic cable....
Hope that helps resolve...
Best regards,
Kevin
Hi Guys,
i bought a motorola atrix lapdock and i'm looking for a way to connect this with my samsung galaxy s2. I think, the easy part is the connection via hdmi to the smartphone. The Problem is to connect the keyboard/mouse output over the female micro usb connector with the phone.
Im looking for some kind of 'wireless' solution. There are a lot of bluetooth keyboards (and mouse) devices available on the market, which works with a smartphone.
In my imagination i have a small device which tunnel the keyboard and mouse signal over something like bluetooth to the smartphone.
Did anyone see something like this? Or has someone a another idea, how i can to connect the lapdock mouse/keyboard to the phone.
zeiti
You can probably look into building your own converter using this:
https://www.sparkfun.com/products/10823
Haven't seen anyone do it before but I think it's technically possible.
Late to the party, but I think it can be done too. The lapdock keyboard and trackpad are usb hid (someone please correct me if I'm wrong). So, thinking out loud:
Lapdock usb --> usb microcontroller --> bluetooth hid
That's oversimplified, but it's a start. Question is, would such a setup recognize both keyboard and trackpad, or just one of the two?
**edit**
I found a link to a guide using an arduino and a bluesmirf hid. But I can't insert links yet, so if you google "arduino bluetooth hid" one of the results should be a site called kobakant. Very interesting write-up there.