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I haven't seen any post about the PDA2K...
I remember reading a lot of them about the XDAII and relative problems:
-getting GPS audio out of the car speakers
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I also remeber that the best solution seemed to be a car holder with build in speaker... would it work with the 2K as well (without forcing the Pins...)
As far you now is iMate going to come out with an official creadle?
Thanks,
Chris
i am not bothering to wait for the cradle... if the cradle for the xda ii was any thing to go by it will take ages and will be rubbish.
i took things into my own hands and built my own drop in charger for the xda iis.
i was going to post some pictures but i cant from my xda iis as the picture upload is not pocket pc compliant... come on guys - sort out the upload...
Don't wait.....
I agree....when i bought the cradle for the XDA2 i was really amazed to see how stupid i was to pay so much for so litle. The worst carkit i've ever seen.....
Now that i have my new Qtek9090 i didn't bother to wait. I just bought an Arkon powered cradle and it is just fine. I'm waiting for the audio adapter for the 9090 but i tried it with my old qtek2020 and i was amazed to hear Tomtom navigational instructions....mp3...click click.....and so on....
I'm now expecting the new audio adapter (they finished production today and began shipping) and i tell you it will do just fine.
Which Audio adapter?
Could you please be more specific regarding the audio adapter?
Thanks,
Chris
Arkon Cradle
iap sure...
The Arkon cradle (http://www.arkon.com/bluetoothgps.html) model CM745 is designed specifically for the Qtek 2020 and uses 2 connections to the PDA. The cradle has 2 USB connectors at the bottom, one to connecto to the 21pin connector to charge the PDA and another one for any accessory USB powered you may have. On the top of the cradle there is an audio line in wich connects to your PDAs headset jack to output the audio through the cradles internal speaker. The audio adapter is nothing less than a converter from the 3,5" cradle jack to the 2,5" PDA jack wich carries the sound to the cradle but doesn't deactivate the internal mic on the PDA.
Despite the simple concept design, i tried it with the Qtek 2020 and it works really well.
My waiting is due to the fact, i bought the Arkon cradle specific for the Qtek2020 because they told me it would fit the 9090 but they were preparing the new audio connector.
Note: You may have read somewhere posts about the 21pin connector beeing different from XDA2 to XDA3 but in fact (at least my Qtek9090) uses "apparently" the same conector. I don't need to force anything as some of the guys do...
How do you deal with the Arkon RF/speaker interference?
I read here that it was unacceptable...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=13654&start=0
how do you deal with it?
Saw another thread and started Googling. The Arkon "designed" for the Blue Angel is the "Arkon CM750 MDA III 3 PDA mount with speaker and gps charger".
Don't know about the quality but for £34.99 and free delivery to the UK it's got to be worth a shot. Look here http://www.morpethmobiles.co.uk/proddetail.asp?prod=X6AKMDA&cat=114
Best cradle for the PDA 2K
www.ProClipUSA.com
Finally there is a decent DSP carkit released by Carcomm (www.carcomm.nl) . I already have it here it only has to be build in in my car. It also comes with a mutebox that uses the left car stereo speaker to hear the sounds of callers and Tomtom. The partnumber CHFS-16. When it is build in i will make some pics.
Hi all,
I've not got my Hermes variant yet, but would like to ask if anyone plans on using this device in the car for example; with the need to charge AND have audio out going to the car speakers.
Since there is only one connector for both charging and audio, is there some sort of 'Y' cable that 'separates' the two connections?
Thanks.
Brodit has an adapter with just charging feature:
http://www.brodit.com/productinformation.jsp?anr=971690
I have just written an email to them if they could put an audio out cable as well. I will update if I get any information.
esackbauer said:
Brodit has an adapter with just charging feature:
http://www.brodit.com/productinformation.jsp?anr=971690
I have just written an email to them if they could put an audio out cable as well. I will update if I get any information.
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Yes, I remember seeing that one...
I would have thought more people may have wanted such an adapter- but obviously not. This is something I would use in my car all the time.
Hi Guys,
Have you considered the 'parrot' car phone kit options? They come in a variety of options, basically each is a Bluetooth car kit, that bonds with your device,transfers the contacts, mutes your cars radio, and pumps telephone calls through the car speakers also, it is in every way a fully working car kit for the Xda range.
I am biased as I retail and install them, but every customer i do installs for, they absoultey love them, as they also bond with upto 5 devices so other phones can be used as well, ie a works phone,
http://www.parrot.biz/united_kingdom/products/index.php?id=advanced
Drop me a line if you need any help ok,
Thanks
Bryson
bryson said:
Hi Guys,
To view and buy all Xda Brodit cradles and proclips, visit my site www.dsldevelopments.com
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You should really fix your site to work with Firefox. It gives the error
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The plug-in performed an illegal operation. You are strongly advised to restart Firefox
with Firefox 1.5.0.6 with Noscript 1.1.4.1
Well I think it may be your fault because I've never seen the error before and it is reproduceable.
bryson said:
Hi Guys,
Have you considered the 'parrot' car phone kit options? They come in a variety of options, basically each is a Bluetooth car kit, that bonds with your device,transfers the contacts, mutes your cars radio, and pumps telephone calls through the car speakers also, it is in every way a fully working car kit for the Xda range.
I am biased as I retail and install them, but every customer i do installs for, they absoultey love them, as they also bond with upto 5 devices so other phones can be used as well, ie a works phone,
http://www.parrot.biz/united_kingdom/products/index.php?id=advanced
Drop me a line if you need any help ok,
Thanks
Bryson
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Would these parrot kits route the [musical] audio from my device to the car speakers then? I dont really need a BT carkit since I always have my personal BT handsfree on. My main requirements are those as listed in my original post.
Thanks Ill pass on the notes to the web guy, i use firefox and IE and works fine, is it the How it Works video?
No, it wont route music through your car, not that I have found yet,
You'd need it to support A2DP to play music too. As far as I know there's no headphone support only headset. At least it's only headset on mine.
The Parrot kits and the TyTn
To Bryson:
I have a CK 3000 that has worked fine with all of my phones. However, according to a different thread there seems unfortunately to be a problem with the Tytn and some (all?) of the Parrot kits.
Hi,
Ive yet to test parrot gear with a tytn / hermes etc - nhave you been over to the parrot forums to see if anyone has posted regarding this issue there?
Sorry i cant be of more help,
Bryson!
My parrot works sweelty with my Tytn and my Strtrk. I have the CK3000 unit too.
Y cable wanted!
I want a Y cable too!
Split into audio out, mic in, charge.
Preferably in a brodit carholder!
I'm sure someone can make this, now the phone is sold in Japan, lot's of japanese will want to use their own headsets, so I hope they will invent some nice cables
Im also looking for this same adaptor, so I can charge the device in the car while the adioo output can be used for satnav.
Anyone know of such an adaptor ? (Y cable)
I posted on the Wiki that a Y cable is soon to be available from Expansys. http://www.expansys.com/product.asp?code=140425.
grayhaze said:
I posted on the Wiki that a Y cable is soon to be available from Expansys. http://www.expansys.com/product.asp?code=140425.
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Ah nice one, I knew this would be something people would want. But why HTC couldn't integrate this on the device in the first place still baffles me!
This is only my humble opinion.
When I first knew that the TyTn, followed by the next coming other HTC's PPCs (Trinity. Artemis), would not have the regular audio port anymore (Regardless the size, 2.5 mm or 3.5 mm), I was thinking they must be really stupid by taking that away. Since my first PPC, I have been always plug the audio/sound to my car stereo for MP3 and phone calls.
Then I tried to think about the logic, why would they take it away, they must have reasons, being such a high tech company. The most logical reason I can think of, they might want to design a good car kit /desktop cradle for it. Thus, by combining the audio port and the USB sync/charging port, they can create a cradle/car kit that would only have one connector to the PPC, instead of two connections/jacks: the USB and the audio pin. That might be a good idea, same idea like the earlier versions of the PPC, like Wallaby that had the serial connector that can be used for synching, charging, GPS, and audio input/output as well, all in the same connector.
But looking at the connector they made, the one posted above in the expansys, I'm kind of LOL really. 2 USB output, one for power, one for audio? Ha ha ha..
They /any third party, should have design a car cradle and a desktop cradle that not only have a regular USB for sync/power, but also just map out also the audio output to a regular 3.5 mm normal audio connection. And that cradle will be really useful and I would think many ppl will buy it. And for a plus side, just add a GPS module in the same car cradle unit, than its perfect solution.
Just my humble opinion...
Yes, I agree with the above post, what we now need is for someone to design both a desktop and car cradle, where it would have the 11pin, to which one would dock the device and the 5 & 6 pin on the underside.
This adapter is helpful, but it would be more helpful if accepted the standard 2.5/3.5mm plugs and power. I mean, come on, who's going to be listening in their car with headphones?
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This adapter is helpful, but it would be more helpful if accepted the standard 2.5/3.5mm plugs and power. I mean, come on, who's going to be listening in their car with headphones?
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Yes good point. As it is, it would mean having to use this adapter to split the audio/charging and then use yet another adapter to convert the mini usb to 2.5/3.5 (if there is such as thing, seeing as the connection now would be the standard USB and not the 'square ended' one).
sh500 said:
goestoeleven said:
This adapter is helpful, but it would be more helpful if accepted the standard 2.5/3.5mm plugs and power. I mean, come on, who's going to be listening in their car with headphones?
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Yes good point. As it is, it would mean having to use this adapter to split the audio/charging and then use yet another adapter to convert the mini usb to 2.5/3.5 (if there is such as thing, seeing as the connection now would be the standard USB and not the 'square ended' one).
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That means we'll also need an USB A<->B adaptor.... Hmmmmmm.......
Hi
I use my wizard in the car, and have an adapter (ebay,£3) that goes from the headset out to a microphone and has a 3.5 socket - this then plugs into the mp3 input on my car stereo to give me a full hands-free solution - works great, but I have to unplug the headset connector to use TomTom, otherwise I can't use my stereo while I'm driving!
Anyhow, I've seen a car mount with built in charger and speaker on ebay and at http://www.pdamods.co.uk/products.asp?cat=125 - I was wondering if anyone else had got one and what they thought of it.
My main question is whether it has a built in microphone so that you can use the phone when its in the mount, or does it render the phone useless while it's in there?
** BTW, if anyone want's an easy to install copy of TT6, mail me!
No, that mount does not have a built in microphone. But it works well in combination with a BT handsfree.
That looks a lot like the i.Trek mount offered by Semsons. That mount has a microphone mounted in-line on the cable connecting the Wizard speaker to the mount's powered speaker. It's not shown in the photo but it's on the right side of the mount.
Now if they only made one that powers it and connects an external antenna in one step!
I really wonder if engineers who design stuff like this never get out or get to play with equipment they develop?
I have had a Nokia 6340i for many years and had the handsfree cradle in my vehicles and they were absolutely the best thing since sliced bread! Now however, the newer Nokia's aren't compatible with that kit, so I couldn't upgrade the phone. I was forced to finally buy a new phone and got a Cingular 8125, but now I see there's no powered cradle with antenna connection!
It's really a shame they don't think designs through to the end users needs! I also bought the Pioneer DEH-9800BT stereo, but it doesn't look like it's going to be worth it since I have to tell it to connect evertime I get in the vehicle, which means I have to remove it from my belt case and dork with it to get it connected. The radio also has a limit of 350 contacts for the primary user and I have in excess of 600 and growing so I guess it's going back.
Any other choices anyone can suggest for a Cingular subscriber? I really just want a hands free method for using the phone in the vehicle without having to meddle with the phone or the HF device and also be able to pick up external antenna connection like the Nokia car kit provided for many years of reliable service!
Thanks for any help!
ITADMIN
anyone know where I can get this in Canada?
http://www.pdamods.co.uk/proddetail.asp?prod=A111UCRIJAMMNT&cat=125
Thanks!
Hi all
Has anyone come across a fixed car kit for the Hermes/TyTN? I
have got a brodit kit & charger and currently using it via BT with the Audi MMI, but as with most BT kits it varies between acceptable and awful (both in terms of signal strength and call quality).
When I put the SIM into the old nokia phone and plug it into the cradle in the armrest, the signal and call quility improves significantly - hence the request. Therefore, is there such a thing as a fixed Hermes kit? Alternatively, is there any way of improving the signal with a BT kit - and is the call quality any good??
TIA
You could go for a THBBury (UNI System 8) kit with the TyTN cradle for it.
I am just about to install this setup in my car over the next week so I will let you know how I get on.
http://www.bury.com/ and http://www.expansys.com/p.aspx?i=141685 show you what is involved.
John
paul_o said:
Hi all
Has anyone come across a fixed car kit for the Hermes/TyTN? I
have got a brodit kit & charger and currently using it via BT with the Audi MMI, but as with most BT kits it varies between acceptable and awful (both in terms of signal strength and call quality).
When I put the SIM into the old nokia phone and plug it into the cradle in the armrest, the signal and call quility improves significantly - hence the request. Therefore, is there such a thing as a fixed Hermes kit? Alternatively, is there any way of improving the signal with a BT kit - and is the call quality any good??
TIA
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I have a Brodit cradle too. The Audi MMI works fine now with the TyTN, took some time as I had to update both the TyTN's ROM and the MMI to the latest versions. Now the MMI can read the TyTN's contacts and Missed/Received calls lists.
However, I don't thing the MMI is quite compatible with the TyTN's SAP profile. This is the reason why you're getting better results with the Nokia. The Nokia's SAP is Audi's reference profile (as most phones these days are Nokias). The Audi Bluetooth module is actually a full phone, which takes over your SIM card in the Nokia (via the SAP profile). The MMI has it's own antenna and no voice data actually flows over the Bluetooth connection. This is only used to access the SIM card.
With the TyTN, this is a different story - all data goes over Bluetooth (including voice) and the signal is also that of the TyTN - the external antenna of the Audi is not used at all in this case .
I'll keep trying with new ROM updates and see if I get more luck.
AJAX
Hi Paul_o,
I have the THB carkit. However it is not hardwired, but bluetooth.
Sometimes my Tytn switches of bluetooth by it self.
I have upgrade to vp3G's WM6 ROM with radio 1.48. Bluetooth problems are less frequent as before with original WM5 dutch.
djwillis said:
You could go for a THBBury (UNI System 8) kit with the TyTN cradle for it.
I am just about to install this setup in my car over the next week so I will let you know how I get on.
http://www.bury.com/ and http://www.expansys.com/p.aspx?i=141685 show you what is involved.
John
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@ djwillis:
Any news on the kit?
@ajax007:
Appreciate the info re:Audi MMI, but as the company car is going back in 3 weeks I reckon the Bury kit is the way forward in the new car...
Anyone look at the 20SM from Garmin? Pricey but cool looking. Might have to get one for Xmas
http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-Garmin-Mobi...ryZ58047QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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Anyone look at the 20SM from Garmin? Pricey but cool looking. Might have to get one for Xmas
http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-Garmin-Mobi...ryZ58047QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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Erm, exactly why would Hermes users want this??
Don't know if I'm hijacking the thread but I'm also looking in getting a handfree BT kit for the car. I don't need my 8525 to be cradled in, just have it connect automatically like in my wife's Lexus. Of course I can always buy a new car with BT but I was hoping to spend a little less than that...
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Erm, exactly why would Hermes users want this??
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Erm.. sorry, the ebay auction was clearly geared towards the bundle software for blackberry. The 20SM is universal.
Has bluetooth GPS built into the base, and can also charge the handheld. Includes Bluetooth Handsfree operation as well
https://buy.garmin.com/shop/shop.do?pID=405
Does anybody happen to have a list of whether various car chargers and/or kits switch the Titan into Car Mode or not.
Also, is there any way to see or preview Car Mode manually as there is with Dock Mode
Many thanks
Andy
I think the car mode is an Android function, not Windows Phone.
Looking at HTC's website it looks like it's only avaiable under Sense 4.0 which I think is Android only HOWEVER, this link suggests the Titan has it built in.
(Sorry had to seperate as I'm new user)
wmpoweruser.com
(page)
/htc-releases-new-htc-titan-car-cradle-with-car-panel-app/
The car panel works in the new Locations version 2.1 (build2213.18230) phone can not be dormant or in lock screen to use.
/showpost.php?p=24460791&postcount=20
Thanks, well like some of the other guys on that thread I have a fix car bracket so don't really want the HTC car kit (it's expensive too) but somehow need to find out whether holders from Brodit, ProClip etc will activate the Car Panel
ProClip
SnoopMegaDaddy said:
Thanks, well like some of the other guys on that thread I have a fix car bracket so don't really want the HTC car kit (it's expensive too) but somehow need to find out whether holders from Brodit, ProClip etc will activate the Car Panel
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I have the ProClip mount without the built-in power. I love their products and it is a great mount.
I see no need for the Car Panel as I have everything at my fingertips.
HTC are currently saying it is only enabled with the right car kit plugged in AND a car which has the Bluetooth Phonebook Profile capability ???
HTC Titan CU S600 switch the Titan into Car Mode.
For a dock to trigger phone into dock mode, it needs specially made microUSB plug. For example, for Samsung Android phones, the microUSB plug needs to have PIN5 connected to a 600k resistor to the ground. Ppl on Samsung board has been documenting the various resistor values for triggering different functions for Samsung phones for almost two years now. Not sure if there is similar efforts on HTC phones.
But, to answer OP's question, no, generic docks won't trigger such docking mode. Only OEM docks can.
Thanks, I understand that the Dock Mode is enabled using resistance across pins of the USB cables however I am trying to find out whether the Car Panel mode is activated in the same way and/or whether it uses the Bluetooth connection to the car as well.
In case your still wondering I have just got this kit (£20 from the forest) and it opens locations when I plug it in , I have no Bluetooth in my car so cant vouch for anything else working.. Just gotta see if I can find away to open Navigon instead.
meandu229 said:
In case your still wondering I have just got this kit (£20 from the forest) and it opens locations when I plug it in , I have no Bluetooth in my car so cant vouch for anything else working.. Just gotta see if I can find away to open Navigon instead.
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Which kit was it, do you have a link or make please.
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Which kit was it, do you have a link or make please.
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http://www.amazon.co.uk/HTC-Titan-A...S6PK/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1344877037&sr=8-1
and it is possible to change what opens with it, i currently have nokia drive opening,, you will need a custom rom to change what opens with it though
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http://www.amazon.co.uk/HTC-Titan-A...S6PK/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1344877037&sr=8-1
and it is possible to change what opens with it, i currently have nokia drive opening,, you will need a custom rom to change what opens with it though
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Cool, thats the HTC kit and it's come down in price a lot. I wanted a fixed one rather than a sucker one but thanks for the info. Also, as an aside what ROM are you using and are you pleased with it ?
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Cool, thats the HTC kit and it's come down in price a lot. I wanted a fixed one rather than a sucker one but thanks for the info. Also, as an aside what ROM are you using and are you pleased with it ?
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I'm using Dymanics 1.21 and not had a problem with it yet, dont notice anything different to stock performance wise.