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So, ever since I upgraded to windows mobile 6.1, there is one "feature" that is driving me nuts... I haven't seen any reference to it in the forums (though it's possible I just didn't read enough of the 20+ page threads), but I'm wondering if anyone knows how to disable it.
It seems that windows mobile automatically starts closing programs when I start running low on memory. Particularly Messaging and Internet Explorer are prone to suddenly not be there anymore, but other programs do it as well.
For example, I'm reading a text message, switch to contacts to update someone's information, and then I try to switch back to the text message to verify the data and it's no longer running. I start up text messaging, and contacts has closed.
Very frustrating. I'm fairly certain it does it only when memory is very low, but I much preferred the warning "yo, idiot, you're out of memory, shut stuff down" messages to this "I'm going to close this program with no consideration to what you're doing and w/out asking" approach.
Anyone have any ideas? Maybe I'm missing something obvious?
taxilian said:
So, ever since I upgraded to windows mobile 6.1, there is one "feature" that is driving me nuts... I haven't seen any reference to it in the forums (though it's possible I just didn't read enough of the 20+ page threads), but I'm wondering if anyone knows how to disable it.
It seems that windows mobile automatically starts closing programs when I start running low on memory. Particularly Messaging and Internet Explorer are prone to suddenly not be there anymore, but other programs do it as well.
For example, I'm reading a text message, switch to contacts to update someone's information, and then I try to switch back to the text message to verify the data and it's no longer running. I start up text messaging, and contacts has closed.
Very frustrating. I'm fairly certain it does it only when memory is very low, but I much preferred the warning "yo, idiot, you're out of memory, shut stuff down" messages to this "I'm going to close this program with no consideration to what you're doing and w/out asking" approach.
Anyone have any ideas? Maybe I'm missing something obvious?
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WoW. You must be running a memory HOG program in the background to run out of memory with text messaging and the contacts program.
I have bluetooth to use with my Stereo Bluetooth head phones when I listen to Windows Media and Have the Threaded Text Messaging Software in the background running ( I text alot and I need it running in the background to initiate it faster ) all with HTC Home Plugin and I dont get any memory problems. Nothing closes out.
Do you have the X-Button program installed? The one that closes things out completely when you press the X. If so this can be the problem.
Honestly I use an Alt-Tab program to switch between programs. This helps alot.
I know exactly what you mean as far as the memory management closing applications. for example i used to be able to have tomtom running, and also audio manager playing music, however if memory is low, the management always closes audio manager. Rather annoying, i've had it do it during other programs also ie. messaging, internet explorer.
That's weird.... Possibly sending hibernate signal to programs to see if some will shut down?
I haven't noticed any apps getting closed automatically but I never try to have more than a few open at a time.
Well other then recommending that you review your installations and see if there are any memory HOG programs to remove, I also recommend using Oxios Hibernate.
Check out this website for more details.
http://www.oxios.com/memory/
I have some today plugins (like SBP diary) that may be taking part of the memory. I have to blame the memory leak for the rest... on a fresh boot I have 18 meg free, by the time I start having real problems with things shutting down left and right I only have 5 free. I use QuickMenu, which has a program similar to X-Button so that I can explicitly close programs, but I can also use it to switch tasks. In WM6 it worked fine. However, unless I reboot frequently, I end up with this problem. Some things always exhibit this problem, even right after a soft reset reset. For example, if I use PIE to view a site such as youtube and I play a video clip, PIE closes in the background while the video is playing, which is very annoying.
I know that there are things to do to try to free memory... I have hibernate, I have the task manager connected to quickmenu, but I still have this problem.
taxilian said:
I have some today plugins (like SBP diary) that may be taking part of the memory. I have to blame the memory leak for the rest... on a fresh boot I have 18 meg free, by the time I start having real problems with things shutting down left and right I only have 5 free. I use QuickMenu, which has a program similar to X-Button so that I can explicitly close programs, but I can also use it to switch tasks. In WM6 it worked fine. However, unless I reboot frequently, I end up with this problem. Some things always exhibit this problem, even right after a soft reset reset. For example, if I use PIE to view a site such as youtube and I play a video clip, PIE closes in the background while the video is playing, which is very annoying.
I know that there are things to do to try to free memory... I have hibernate, I have the task manager connected to quickmenu, but I still have this problem.
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What ROM are you using? I have DCD 2.2.0 core with others mixed in and I get about 23 to 24 MB on soft boot. That is with all of my apps installed.
It might be that the page pool on your ROM is high. If it is high it tends to speed up your device but you sacrifice memory. Are you using one of DCD's new ROM's? Because I believe his new ROM's have a higher page pool then before to cope with WM6.1.
taxilian said:
So, ever since I upgraded to windows mobile 6.1, there is one "feature" that is driving me nuts... I haven't seen any reference to it in the forums (though it's possible I just didn't read enough of the 20+ page threads), but I'm wondering if anyone knows how to disable it.
It seems that windows mobile automatically starts closing programs when I start running low on memory. Particularly Messaging and Internet Explorer are prone to suddenly not be there anymore, but other programs do it as well.
For example, I'm reading a text message, switch to contacts to update someone's information, and then I try to switch back to the text message to verify the data and it's no longer running. I start up text messaging, and contacts has closed.
Very frustrating. I'm fairly certain it does it only when memory is very low, but I much preferred the warning "yo, idiot, you're out of memory, shut stuff down" messages to this "I'm going to close this program with no consideration to what you're doing and w/out asking" approach.
Anyone have any ideas? Maybe I'm missing something obvious?
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i've heard of oxios causing this phenomena, something in the way of how it alters things when you run it. I use oxios exclusively to manage my ram, and have done so for a long time. the newer dcd roms are a lot better at this, some 6.1 roms though have a terrible memory leak.
Honestly though, you really shouldnt ever have that many apps open at one time. i start to freak out when i get down to 15mb free
try to use something where you can monitor your ram on the today screen, like batterystatus today plugin along with mbutton to see the open apps in the taskbar, and oxiosw memory apps to keep it all tidy.
I'm having the same issue, but not sure it has to do with low memory. I have dcd 2.1.0 rom with Spb pocket plus 4.0, mobile shell and oxios. If I'm going from say IE to any other program and go back fairly quickly to IE it would is still active but If I'm on another program for more than a minute it closes down on its own
Strangly having same issue here. Bus most annoying for internet sharing, and Messenger Live, can't be memory issue, nothing else is running! It just closes stuff as it feels like it.
Using Task Manager 2.0 here, no X-Button.
Mine is doing the same thing and I am running DCD 3.1 ROM. Sometimes I can have only 2 apps open and it will close the one that I am not in. Just 5 secs ago I had opera mini running and spb wallet. I had opera mini running and minimized it with the ok button and then opened SPB wallet from the start menu to get a password and when I went to go back to opera mini it was gone. This seems to be happening to me when I get ~8M of RAM left. This is very annoying. I am running quite a few programs in the background though.
SPB mobile shell 1067kb
S2u2 613kb
tmail 125kb
Wisbar Lite 65kb
Mortscript 16kb
AEB 13k
Ftouchsl 5k
I have had all these programs running before on a WM6 rom and never had this issue. and I never map the ok key to close.
Guys, sooner or later you're going to have to come to terms that the Titan only has 64 mb of ram, with over 50% of it being used by the system. This means you only get about 23-26 mb of free ram with a CLEAN rom. Taking a look at some of the applications you use, I can see why the system is auto closing stuff. WM 6.1 does this so your freakin os won't crash due to no memory. I use a LOT of software and I still end up with 22 mb free at boot. This is because I choose not to use certain programs that eat ram. If you absolutely need to use all that bloat, go back to WM 6.0 until a device with more ram comes out.
Nothing I'm using should be going above 22MB (which is free at startup)
Here's what I use and how much ram they eat up:
Garmin Mobile 5-7
Opera same
Navizon 2.7
GPS Viewer 1
other stuff (no more than 4 at most) less than 1MB
But I use Garmin Mobile in the car and not Opera becuase I don't have a data plan. And If i'm using Opera I wouldn't have garmin on as I would be at a house or mall or something like that.
But with JUST garmin Navizon and GPS viewer (with free ram mind you) garmin will close everything else (sometimes)when I activate it. However, with all three open and garmin in he back it won't close....
Ha..first off..Navizon has to be the BIGGEST pile of bloat I've ever used on my ppc. I had it installed for about 5 minutes before I trashed it.
WM 6.1 doesn't close programs when you run out of ram. It automatically senses when certain programs are eating ram, and when it gets low it closes programs to ensure you don't run out of ram.
If it's closing programs it means something you're running is causing your ram to drop tremendously. I've never had WM 6.1 close any of my programs.
Hello, i had the same problem on my Hermes. But i solved it. Just changed this two registry Keys.
Hkey_Current_USER/Software/HTC/Taskmanager
Enable Autokill change from 1 to 0
Hkey_Current_USER/Software/HTC/Taskmanager
MemoryThreshold change from 9437184 to 943718
Now it works perfect. No more closing Tasks automatically.
Greets
ckraus000 said:
Hello, i had the same problem on my Hermes. But i solved it. Just changed this two registry Keys.
Hkey_Current_USER/Software/HTC/Taskmanager
Enable Autokill change from 1 to 0
Hkey_Current_USER/Software/HTC/Taskmanager
MemoryThreshold change from 9437184 to 943718
Now it works perfect. No more closing Tasks automatically.
Greets
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I am running a stock rom and it doesn't seem to have those keys. Could you post the exact spelling for the values (for example, is the value "Enable Autokill" or is it "EnableAutokill")
A clip for the registry itself would be even better.
Thanks for the tip!!!
ckraus000 said:
Hello, i had the same problem on my Hermes. But i solved it. Just changed this two registry Keys.
Hkey_Current_USER/Software/HTC/Taskmanager
Enable Autokill change from 1 to 0
Hkey_Current_USER/Software/HTC/Taskmanager
MemoryThreshold change from 9437184 to 943718
Now it works perfect. No more closing Tasks automatically.
Greets
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thankyouthankyouthankyouthankyouthankyou!! I'll try this out, if it works then one of my biggest gripes with this device will be addressed! I played with a friend's Tilt and the amount of available RAM blew me away but this will definitely help with the craptastic memory!
ckraus000 said:
Hello, i had the same problem on my Hermes. But i solved it. Just changed this two registry Keys.
Hkey_Current_USER/Software/HTC/Taskmanager
Enable Autokill change from 1 to 0
Hkey_Current_USER/Software/HTC/Taskmanager
MemoryThreshold change from 9437184 to 943718
Now it works perfect. No more closing Tasks automatically.
Greets
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This appears to have solved my issue with this. I run no2chem 5069k with a 10mb Pagepool. I use Oxios and have ~24 mb of ram at boot. I normally encounter problems when trying to switch between apps. I use the LastFM app and prior to this fix I would OK out of the app and it would close 5-10 seconds after OKing out. Even with a fresh boot. With this fix implemented I have successfully had it running in the background for 10+ minutes while switching between using Google Maps, Live Search and IE. Note that none of the programs closed.
Keep in mind your mileage may vary from ROM to ROM and app to app. I'm guessing that it is exclusive to a certain version of HTC Task Manager. Also possibly maybe exclusive to some type of Memory Mangement App. All I know is that I have been fighting this closing issue since no2chem 5066 IIRC and this has apparently solved it. I've used the same app loadout since I've had my Mogul pretty much.
What I did:
I did not have these registry keys. I created the:
"HKCU\Software\HTC\TaskManager" key
then created a binary-dword for "Autokill" with Decimal value "0"
then created a binary-dword for "MemoryThreshold" with Decimal value of "943718"
I have rebooted my phone several times and have not had any close issues.
Radio: 3.39.10
PRL 60613
PRI.03_003
Current Mogul app load:
Oxios Memory
AC IMSelecter
Lonely Cat Games Slick
Unyverse Ltd Upvise
MS Hearts (yeah, yeah... I'm an addict)
Dashwire
Vicsoft Cleartemp
Youtube youtubeplay
WMwifirouter (.91 IIRC)
Singer's Creations Weather Watcher
HTC Diamond MP3 Trimmer
Google Maps
MS Live Search
PocketPicture
PocketCM Contacts .23
TP PPC-6800 Hacks
PocketToolman (ver, unknown
Total Commander
.net CF 2.0 (certain old programs can't use the ver 3.5)
ShoZu Mobile
GC Java Pack 1.1
TCPMP .72
Opera 9.5 Beta (build ???)
ELF Calc Skin
Someguy sMMS
vtable software lastcab
moBlog
Pocket CM Keyboard .14
EDIT: 20+ minutes and still no app closes, still browsing and switching between. I'm going to delete the keys, soft reset and test again just to make sure
ive found that 6.1 seems to establish a "baseline" of how much ram it wants to keep free, if i let it have 22-23mb free after a soft reset it will kill any apps in the background to get back up to 23mb, even if the app it kills is only using 500k or so
if i open a bunch of apps right after a soft reset, and get the ram down to about 10mb, i can run all day perfectly stable, and keep all those apps open, or close them and open others and be fine, but i let it free up more ram and 6.1 realizes it can have more ram it starts closing apps to reach the "new" baseline
Alright...
So...
That reg edit appears to do nothing. But. I think I may have stumbled onto something that may be causing the issue.
Reset 3 times and tried lastfm with removed reg keys. Nada - multitasked as previously mentioned with no issue. Had me confused. Then I realized I had never run Oxios Close/Hibernate since my last boot. Something I generally do at least once or twice a day, my phone usually doesn't get reset unless I'm installing something. Closed lastfm, ran Closeapps, launched lastfm and tried to multitask, closed out within 5-15 seconds. Something that Oxios (and most likely other tools like it) messes with WM memory management. I realize that even after a fresh boot I'll sometimes run Oxios (quick way to check ram). Either it loads something into memory or the function is sends is somehow looping or causing WM memory to close nonfocused apps.
So, essentially not any further along, but maybe mem management apps are more responsible than many have guessed before? Anyone else have some time to do some independent research?
Any one else notice their Hero slowing down?
Mine's gotten to the point where it takes a few attempts at even unlocking the home screen....
Yeah, started to put some apps on the phone the first night I had it ( Friday) and when I started 'Sky map' to see what it was like the poor old phone had a major moment and wouldn't do much at all.
I had read up on this so installed taskiller and just killed the app -it was fine after that-
I believe it will be sorted soon, there is a firmware update just about to be released (hopefully) that addresses this issue.
I bought TasKiller Pro, since it lets you have unlimited amounts of Ignored apps. Then I just:
* Go into TasKiller and Ignore TouchFlo, Touch Input, com.htc.dcs (whatever that is, it's always on) and all other apps you don't want to kill when you clean up (Babbler, ConnectBot etc... whatever you fancy)
* Put the TasKiller widget on the desktop next to the TasKiller app icon.
* Whenever I notice a slowdown I just press the widget button and it kills all processes / programs except the ones I've ignored. It immediately speeds up the phone
This isn't an iPhone, this actually lets you start multiple programs at the same time and since the cpu isn't event capable of playing smooth MP4 videos (unless they are 480x360), there isn't a lot to spare.
When I woke up this morning, i made a ConnectBot connection to screen to open irc, surfed a couple of webpages, wrote a couple of mails, started babbler for facebook and eBuddy for MSN and the slowdown on the desktop was visible. When I was done I clicked the TasKiller "Kill all" button and the phone was smooth as butter again.
The moral of the story: If you start a lot of programs at the same time, it WILL slow down the phone. Nothing you can do about it. The iPhone "never" slows down, because it's the equivalent (almost) of a Hero with only one app running at any one time. Given those conditions, the Hero would be just as smooth as the iPhone too!
Still, I hope sincerely for some optimization with the forthcoming update.
You need to look into how the Android OS works.
there are two types of running apps.
Applications and services.
With applications, when you press the home button the application is suspended and can no longer use memory or cpu, Android can reclaim this memory when it needs to.
Second is services, these run in the background. These do use cpu and memory while you are doing other things. So if you have a lot of apps that uses services running then it may slow down.
I have found that usually the slowdown is because when you click home and then suspend the widgets that update are suspended and so when you unsuspend they wake up and start to refresh and that causes the slow down. Tip #1 when clicking home to put the phone into standby dont click standby for about 5 secs and see if it helps.
Hey Everyone,
Just got my Droid Eris yesterday and I'm having fun exploring the phone and checking everything out.
One question, I noticed that many apps (in fact, almost all) don't have a direct "Quit" or "Exit" command. So I'm usually pressing "back" or "home" when I'm done with something. This left me wondering though... when I use "back" or "home", does the app actually exit? From what I can tell, it doesn't... so does the OS automatically clean up these apps from time to time? I came from WinMo 6.1, and it was irritating that everything defaulted to running in the background. How does Android treat it? Is there something special in this regard with the HTC Sense UI? I've seen there are some third-party task manager apps you can get... are they worth getting? Or just "let the phone do it's thing" and i will be fine?
Thanks!
I use a Task Manager from the Market called "Taskiller." But I'm still trying to figure out how the Hero handles the apps because sometimes it gets sluggish and taskiller helps out but then theres other times when I have all sorts of apps open and it runs smoothly, lol, I guess it just works sometimes.
I wonder if it's like the iPhone, where it kills the task when you hit the "Home" button. It doesn't seem like it, as some apps seem to just come up instantly when go back in them, as if I was "switching" to them, and no re-opening them...
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I wonder if it's like the iPhone, where it kills the task when you hit the "Home" button. It doesn't seem like it, as some apps seem to just come up instantly when go back in them, as if I was "switching" to them, and no re-opening them...
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No I dont think thats the case because Android has a special way of "Multitasking," though I'm not completely informed so you might have to research that on your own. But like I said download a Task Manager from the market so you can see how much available memory there is.
By default, Android applications never really "close" as their components can be called upon at any time. (Android applications are structured to be very modular, allowing individual components to be used from each.) When an application needs memory immediately, and another hasn't used it for a while, it shoves the old app into what's called swap space (presumably it's on your SD card) while the new one takes over. This is why you'll occasionally see a delay while performing a "hard" operation (like opening an app) while the system is under heavy load. That's the old app's memory getting written out to temporary storage and the other one taking it over.
At least this is my understanding of the situation.
From what I've heard Android (linux) does a much better job of managing the memory used by our apps. And, that we "...shouldn't have to use a task killer..." to close out apps that are running in the background, especially on our phones.
For instance, the myTouch 3G usually only gets about 20-30 MB of RAM freed after a full clean up of background apps, the Eris will have about 80+ MB after a cleanup and they both feel about the same to me.
I still use Task Panel to close my apps sometimes because I just like starting fresh in an app from time to time. Also if things start getting fishy (screen stuttering, touch screen not working properly) I'll kill all running apps to see if it fixes the problem which in some cases it just does not and a reboot is still required.
I have found that by holding the home key it will bring up all the apps so you can switch to the one that you want so it is still running them in the background.
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I use a Task Manager from the Market called "Taskiller." But I'm still trying to figure out how the Hero handles the apps because sometimes it gets sluggish and taskiller helps out but then theres other times when I have all sorts of apps open and it runs smoothly, lol, I guess it just works sometimes.
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i use a Task application called Task Manager. It gives lists of all Applications running, all process and even has an uninstall feature. It also has a auto end application feature but on my eris it's greyed out(maybe Pro only?)
Here are a couple of links that I found on this subject. Don't mind that it says Hero in the thread title it talks about android phones in general. Also something to look into once we get the Eris rooted in the second link.
Task Managers and your Hero by romeosidvicious @androidforums.com
How to configure Android's *internal* taskkiller by androcheck @xda-developers.com
In the dell streak - when i use the back button does it close the application or keep it running in the background?
Is there anything similar to HTC Task manager we used in WM which would close the apps after using? Is this possible at all?
I also heard that using task managers generally cause issues with battery, speed etc?
Carify anyone?
devdarshan said:
In the dell streak - when i use the back button does it close the application or keep it running in the background?
Is there anything similar to HTC Task manager we used in WM which would close the apps after using? Is this possible at all?
I also heard that using task managers generally cause issues with battery, speed etc?
Carify anyone?
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As far as my limtied knowledge goes.
Using the back button does close the apps, unlike hitting the 'home' button which leaves them open in the background.
I don't use a task manager myself and have never had any issues, but I have read (numerous times) that task managers are not required due to the unique way that android controls it's resources.
Thereforeyou can't compare it to other operating systems.
HTH.
Don't worry about task manangers, when I first got my streak I used one until I stopped recieving texts and calls and deleted it. I see absolutely no difference between when I used it and now that I don't, the phone is very smooth either way!
devdarshan said:
In the dell streak - when i use the back button does it close the application or keep it running in the background?
Is there anything similar to HTC Task manager we used in WM which would close the apps after using? Is this possible at all?
I also heard that using task managers generally cause issues with battery, speed etc?
Carify anyone?
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The Back button will exit the app (unless the app is coded so it does something different) but the app's process will remain running.
The home button will usually suspend the app as it is so you'll be at the same point when you re-open it (again, unless the app has the home button coded to do something different).
The only way to fully close an app is with a task manager but it's completely pointless having one.
Android works by keeping everything running in the background and when it needs memory it will close the ones it thinks are least important.
It does this because it makes things a hell of a lot faster. A good example, is that when you first load the Gallery app, it has to load all your pictures and videos. Once it's done that, it will then be able to open it again very quickly with everything loaded, unless you kill it with a task manager, then it will have to load everything again. Task managers also have a habit of closing necessary things, resulting in a loss of signal, connectivity, etc.
So, in short, don't bother with a task manager. Android has one built in, which is much more effective.
I am new to Android - just got a Droid 3.
How do I stop the system from auto-killing a certain app? When I play Angry Birds, if the phone goes to sleep on timeout, when I turn it back on, the App has to re-load from scratch (rather than opening to where I left off last time). I'm assuming the system decided to kill it for lack of memory, but how do I STOP it from doing that (like an ignore list)?
Will I need a third party app?
Any help is appreciated!
not really. the Android system does a pretty good job of reclaiming unused memory. ive been dealing with this for a while trying to keep a replacement lock screen in memory
Sounds like Verizon installed a task killer. I know their employees do that saying you need one. But you don't. Make sure you uninstall it. It is most likely set to kill apps off ever x minutes. Usually Android keeps foreground apps in memory for a long time unless the system needs it. But doesn't sound like it would. I wonder what the Droid 3 memory settings are for stock now. I have the Evo 3D and they are set at a higher threshold(as I'm kills unused apps sooner) compared to my older HTC phones(Evo and Hero). How long do you let the phone sit idle before coming back?
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Sounds like Verizon installed a task killer. I know their employees do that saying you need one. But you don't. Make sure you uninstall it. It is most likely set to kill apps off ever x minutes. Usually Android keeps foreground apps in memory for a long time unless the system needs it. But doesn't sound like it would. I wonder what the Droid 3 memory settings are for stock now. I have the Evo 3D and they are set at a higher threshold(as I'm kills unused apps sooner) compared to my older HTC phones(Evo and Hero). How long do you let the phone sit idle before coming back?
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It's not obvious which program that would be - there's nothing called Task Killer. Plus, most of the VZW bloatware can't be uninstalled anyway. Apart from rooting (locked bootloader on Droid 3), what can I do to force it to stay open?
Also, it gets killed immediately on turning off the phone. As in, I start the game, hit sleep, hit wake a second later and the game reloads from scratch. Very irritating.
Any thoughts are appreciated, thanks!
jbroses said:
It's not obvious which program that would be - there's nothing called Task Killer. Plus, most of the VZW bloatware can't be uninstalled anyway. Apart from rooting (locked bootloader on Droid 3), what can I do to force it to stay open?
Also, it gets killed immediately on turning off the phone. As in, I start the game, hit sleep, hit wake a second later and the game reloads from scratch. Very irritating.
Any thoughts are appreciated, thanks!
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I just tested this with Angry Birds from the time I posted till just now and it was right where I left the game. It may be called Advanced Task Manager. Or something like that. And you should be able to uninstall it. It would have been installed by the person selling the phone and not at the factory.
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Go to the Market, download Spare Parts. Open and scroll down to Activity/Process Management. Select normal. It may not have been the problem, but worth a shot. Are you hitting the home button before putting the phone to sleep? What do you see immediately upon turning the screen on and unlocking the phone? Angry Birds? The home screen?
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When you haven't used an app for a long time, Android automatically recycles all open activities from the app, except the root activity.
By default, every application runs in its own Linux process. Android starts the process when any of the application’s code needs to be executed, and shuts down the process when it’s no longer needed and system resources are required by other applications.
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If the user leaves a task for a long time, the system clears the task of all activities except the root activity. When the user returns to the task again, it’s as the user left it, except that only the initial activity is present. The idea is that, after a time, users will likely have abandoned what they were doing before and are returning to the task to begin something new
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From geekfor.me/faq/you-shouldnt-be-using-a-task-killer-with-android/ (sorry I can't make a link yet)
Shinigami20 said:
When you haven't used an app for a long time, Android automatically recycles all open activities from the app, except the root activity.
From geekfor.me/faq/you-shouldnt-be-using-a-task-killer-with-android/ (sorry I can't make a link yet)
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it actually happens instantly. in other words - open angry birds, begin level. sleep phone, wake phone. angry birds reloads from the beginning. this is all within the span of 5 secs.
i thought it might be my lock screen - widgetlock, but i disabled that and it just happened again, this time with opera mini as i was writing this. I was writing this post, went to a text, came back to opera within 30 secs and it had shut down and reopened (no tab with my partially composed message).
is the droid 3 just shutting things down more aggressively? is there a way to tweak that? maybe too much other crap is running and I should get a task killer? thoughts?
jbroses said:
it actually happens instantly. in other words - open angry birds, begin level. sleep phone, wake phone. angry birds reloads from the beginning. this is all within the span of 5 secs.
i thought it might be my lock screen - widgetlock, but i disabled that and it just happened again, this time with opera mini as i was writing this. I was writing this post, went to a text, came back to opera within 30 secs and it had shut down and reopened (no tab with my partially composed message).
is the droid 3 just shutting things down more aggressively? is there a way to tweak that? maybe too much other crap is running and I should get a task killer? thoughts?
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do not sleep your device, try entering level then return to home switch to other apps. Then open angry bird again and see what happen
On my desire Z, it kill the app every time i sleep the phone. Keep the phone alive then I have 3 apps running at same time without being killed. But it's not likely that I have RAM shortage. 3 apps is constant no matter what apps
Flipz explains that well. Autokiller is a great little app to adjust those settings. Used it for over two years now. I actually got to watch that app evolve. Great dev. Only works if you are rooted.
Shinigami20 said:
When you haven't used an app for a long time, Android automatically recycles all open activities from the app, except the root activity.
From geekfor.me/faq/you-shouldnt-be-using-a-task-killer-with-android/ (sorry I can't make a link yet)
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Thanks for all the responses. I've tried to address them all:
Spare Parts - I installed this and set the Activity to Normal (it WAS set on aggressive). Unfortunately, this didn't help.
Press the Home key - Pressing the Home key and then going back to Angry Birds DOES work. It picks up right where you left off. Unfortunately, when the phone goes to sleep, it restarts Angry Birds on waking.
What do I see when I wake the phone - It goes to my WidgetLocker lock screen. Once unlocked, the very first thing that shows up is the Angry Birds "Rovio" loading screen. No home screen in between.
Any other thoughts are much appreciated! Is there any way to simply exempt Angry Birds from being closed by the system automatically? It seems like this should be possible!
Can you try something out for me? I want to give evidence to my theory.
Download another 3d game, load a level, then sleep the device. See if there's a lot of stuttering/reloading when you wake the device back up.
Any news on this? I got the same problem with CM 9.1 on my Doubleshot (aka M4GS). When I have like 10 tabs or so opened in Opera, Android kills the task. But not when I put it into sleep, but right when I'm browsing! That's really annoying since after restarting Opera I have to reopen every single tab manually from the history.
Already tried Spare Parts, but it doesn't offer some kinda whitelist for apps that shouldn't be autokilled.
It's really frustrating, Android's autokilling feature was one of the few things, that I didn't like about that OS when I switched from Windows Mobile to Android a few years ago. And I still hate that feature. Why can't I decide by myself which apps to be closed and which ones not? Give back the power to the user I say!
At least there HAS to be a solution to force Anddroid, not to kill a specified app (e.g. Opera) and kill all the other running apps instead. Any 3rd Party task killer has some kinda ignore list, so how could Android be tweaked to do the same?
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Any news on this? I got the same problem with CM 9.1 on my Doubleshot (aka M4GS). When I have like 10 tabs or so opened in Opera, Android kills the task. But not when I put it into sleep, but right when I'm browsing! That's really annoying since after restarting Opera I have to reopen every single tab manually from the history.
Already tried Spare Parts, but it doesn't offer some kinda whitelist for apps that shouldn't be autokilled.
It's really frustrating, Android's autokilling feature was one of the few things, that I didn't like about that OS when I switched from Windows Mobile to Android a few years ago. And I still hate that feature. Why can't I decide by myself which apps to be closed and which ones not? Give back the power to the user I say!
At least there HAS to be a solution to force Anddroid, not to kill a specified app (e.g. Opera) and kill all the other running apps instead. Any 3rd Party task killer has some kinda ignore list, so how could Android be tweaked to do the same?
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I agree. I was downloading a file in Opera, switched to other apps, then went back to opera and it reopened.. Needless to say the download failed. This really sucks.
Use titanium and freeze the stock task manager (if any).
Android, by default, keeps only 3 (correct me if I'm wrong) applications' sessions in memory, but that's obviously no reason for it to kill angry birds right after the display is closed.
Try installing Minfree (I think it's available on the Play Store) to understand when and why Android is killing the application. It'll give you the parameters on which the Android Auto killer operates, but you will need ROOT to be able to edit them.
And no, there isn't a way to earmark an application such that it isn't killed, at least, not that I know of.
Hope this helps.
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jbroses said:
I am new to Android - just got a Droid 3.
How do I stop the system from auto-killing a certain app? When I play Angry Birds, if the phone goes to sleep on timeout, when I turn it back on, the App has to re-load from scratch (rather than opening to where I left off last time). I'm assuming the system decided to kill it for lack of memory, but how do I STOP it from doing that (like an ignore list)?
Will I need a third party app?
Any help is appreciated!
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Hi, excuse me for not reading other posts and replying directly but wanted to share something that works for me and does not kill certain launched apps. Open any app, then come out of the app and tap on recent apps button and you will see the apps that are currently launched. Depending on your OS and model, are you able to lock an app (by slightly dragging the app icon down and then tapping on the lock icon). I did that for one of the games and surprisingly even after several minutes, I was able to continue from exactly where I left off. Hope this helps. Let me know.
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