Is my battery really dead! - MDA, XDA, 1010 General

Hi,
Is there a definitive way to check if the battery is dead?
I put the xda in the cradle for 6+ hours, as soon as I take it out it indicates that I need to recharge.

If your battery is more, than 4 years old, it's definitely dead. So, I suppose, you should order a new one and replace - that's all...
Or if you could get Li-Pol accu, fits 53*85*4.2mm size - you can replace failed accu. However, you'll need some soldering work.

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Hermes Extended Battery -- should i get it?

the 3000mAh extended battery for the Hermes costs about US$105 here in Tokyo - should i get it?
i know that it is quite bulky, but in your experience, is the regular battery that comes with the Hermes enough to get through a heavy day?
Don't be lazy and search before you post.
Read this thread.
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try on Ebay it costs about 25 euro for 3600 mA
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try on Ebay it costs about 25 euro for 3600 mA
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€25,-?!?
The 3000mAh one cost me $69 at LionBattery IIRC. And I'd rather buy from them than from a suspiciously low-pricing vendor on eBay... I'm not risking my TyTN nor my €25,- with such a vendor
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try on Ebay it costs about 25 euro for 3600 mA
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thanks for the info... but id rather trust my device (and money) on reputable stores rather than eBay... as they say, "you get what you pay for..."
no offense, though...
alfred_jp said:
the 3000mAh extended battery for the Hermes costs about US$105 here in Tokyo - should i get it?
i know that it is quite bulky, but in your experience, is the regular battery that comes with the Hermes enough to get through a heavy day?
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I just got this battery from Lionbattery and it is emazing. I use to get about 15 hrs with standard batter. With this one I get 48 hrs, it is really worth it for me. I only had the battery for 3 days thus far.
i just got the extended battery - and am in the process of charging it now...
well, as what most people said - the back cover that came with the battery doesnt fit snugly into the unit. there is a outcrop on the seams (much like a bulge if you were too tight a pants)...
question, though - it says on the label that i should initially charge and discharge it between 3 to 5 fives to maintain the noted capacity... what does it mean? that i cannot use it until ive gone through 3 cycles?
also - how does one full discharge the device? i mean, doesnt the device turn off automatically after some set of seconds? how can i keep it ON the entire time?
thanks in advanced!!!
I bought a 2800 one off ebay came with charger, and car charger for $30 last week.
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question, though - it says on the label that i should initially charge and discharge it between 3 to 5 fives to maintain the noted capacity... what does it mean? that i cannot use it until ive gone through 3 cycles?
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The whole "Lithium batteries has no memory" thing is really a myth. All batteries have a memory. The Lithiums are just way, way better at forming a false memory than Ni-Cads or even Nmh batteries. The lithiums are so good, in fact, that you can treat them as if they have no memory.
Anyway, to train the battery intially, put it through 3-5 full charge/discharge cycles. I do it with normal usage. Charge it till it is full and then use it until it shuts off. Repeat. The hard part (at least for me) is not plugging it into a USB for syncing or for modding the thing... cause that'll charge it, and you don't want to apply any charge (if possible) for those first 3-5 cycles. When I get the first battery alarm, I'll back the phone up just incase, then keep going.
Also, I've heard it was important that once you start charging it, you don't stop until it is fully charged again. ie, don't unplug it from the wall to make a call... go over to the wall and make the call while it is plugged in.
There is a site that we highly recommend for information about batteries. The site is www.batteryuniversity.com.
They also have detailed information on how to prolong the life of your Li-Ion battery HERE.
If you're up to doing some reading, you'll find the information very useful.
Mark
Lion Battery
Li-Ion's do not have memory. They have a drastic drop once they go under a certain point of discharge.
I have the 2800 mAh, it works great and after a full day of use I have about 40% battery life.
-2 hrs on phone
-40 emails
-random web browsing
-Turn 3G and WiFi off when not used.
So you can see from the stock 1300 mAh which would last me about 9 hrs this is a HUGE step in the right direction.
Mine was on ebay for 30 bones with car charger, and Wall charger.
Don't buy on eBay, at least not from lifestyle0806
Last year I ordered 2 extra batteries for my Nokia E61 from that guy.
The two batteries were wrapped by a fake nokia sticker. When I removed the sticker, I found inside the REAL size of the battery. It was a small 850mAH battery inside a plastic frame with a sticker claiming it was 1350mAH
So on eBay you'll find 2800mAH or 3000!!!... for only 20$ or something... but they are totally fake.
Or at least, they'll SUCK big time
I still used those two fake batteries, and one of them randomly shuts down my phone even if it's still full. The other one will drop to 1 bar of battery, then spike back up.. then drop.
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There is a site that we highly recommend for information about batteries. The site is www.batteryuniversity.com.
They also have detailed information on how to prolong the life of your Li-Ion battery HERE.
If you're up to doing some reading, you'll find the information very useful.
Mark
Lion Battery
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Mark,
Great information and I am glad to hear that I don't need to cylce through charge and discharge in order to get good performance out of the battery. I have cycled my new battery twice but I am not going to do it anymore. According to the information from above site, the battery last longer on partial charge.
Thanks
alkizmo said:
Don't buy on eBay, at least not from lifestyle0806
Last year I ordered 2 extra batteries for my Nokia E61 from that guy.
The two batteries were wrapped by a fake nokia sticker. When I removed the sticker, I found inside the REAL size of the battery. It was a small 850mAH battery inside a plastic frame with a sticker claiming it was 1350mAH
So on eBay you'll find 2800mAH or 3000!!!... for only 20$ or something... but they are totally fake.
Or at least, they'll SUCK big time
I still used those two fake batteries, and one of them randomly shuts down my phone even if it's still full. The other one will drop to 1 bar of battery, then spike back up.. then drop.
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I bought the 2800 one off ebay for $30. Its not fake I haven't charge it at all for 2 days and its still at 70.
Seidio 3200 MAH, It Rocks!!!!!!!!!!!!
i just ordered one off ebay
I bought a 2800 mah battery for my 8525 off ebay from a cheap vendor and i admit it did give me more power but on closer inspection when i cracked the pack open it was two 1100mah wired together. I know this because they were stamped with 1100mah lol. Im still using it until this day but you truely get what you pay for. I would take the advice and buy from a reputable vendor or.... take my knowledge if you want a 2200 mah battery for 15-20 bucks.
I got an extended battery 2850mah from ebay. Initially it is no better than the regular battery.Then after a few cycles (5X) when I check my SPB battery meter which indicates the approx run time in hours it comes to 10 hours +! with the regular battery it only goes 3-4 hours. In terms of percent it stays at 100% longer.
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The whole "Lithium batteries has no memory" thing is really a myth. All batteries have a memory. The Lithiums are just way, way better at forming a false memory than Ni-Cads or even Nmh batteries. The lithiums are so good, in fact, that you can treat them as if they have no memory.
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Sorry to have to say but in this paragraph, you contradict yourself, first you say they dont have a memory and call it a myth, then you say they do.
In fact they dont have any memory effect, its better to charge them whenever rather than let them drain completely..
http://www.batteryuniversity.com/parttwo-34.htm
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I bought a 2800 from 360wireless on ebay and have had it for almost a month. It certainly has doubled my usage, so with random surfing on 3G/HSDPA (roughly an hour or so of solid surfing), a keepalive connection on my IM program (on E/G for battery purposes), screen dimming after 30 seconds, and about 10 emails a day and 50-100 chat messages, I'm at about 50% at the end of my day.
I'm good with that. I don't need to open it and inspect it. If it's 2 batteries put together, as long as it does the job, I'm good.

HTC Hermes PDA Extended Battery with Cover 3000mAh Li-Ion Polymer

Has anyone tried this baby yet? If You have then please some feedback.
I bought one a couple months ago when i bought my hermes, it does add a good centimeter to the phone's thickness, but i think it's oh so worth it.
i.e. - Regular battery with regular use(internet here and there, no music) I *might* get a day and a half before it's completely dead.
3000mAh battery - With regular to heavy use after 3 days i still usually have around 40% battery left. Best thing I've ever bought for my phone, except for maybe my jawbone 2 headset ^^
oh speaking of that, with a bluetooth headset synched to my hermes with the regular battery it's dead in a day, whereas again, I avg about 3 or so with the 3000mAh with the bluetooth headset synched all day everyday.
its 2X of the standard 1350mAH
Hi, I have the 1500mAh Li-POL, exactly same size as the original.
I can't really say if the duration is really better than the original one when new. I had a different ROM/Radio and have no intention to get back to WM5 just to test.
By the way, lately I observed a faster drain (anyway more than 1 day with normal use) but might be related to a Radio downgrade carried by an installed ROM. I hope I can give new (and more positive) info when I upgrade the Radio again.
Sounds good to me, i will get one sometime, if i can get double the battery life out of my hermes, i will be happy
how much does it (3000mAh battery) cost ?
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how much does it (3000mAh battery) cost ?
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£14 from a quick search on ebay UK. No sign of a 3000mAh on Dealextreme yet though (99% cheapest supplier!)
I have a 2800mah I've been using for a while, def improvement on the stock one but I'd quite like a second high capacity one to keep in my pocket.
best $16 spent EVER!! i love my battery it takes me whole 3days to kill it including playing MP3's, Internet, Texting and camera. GET IT YOU WON'T BE SORRY
is there a risk with using non genuine batteries?
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is there a risk with using non genuine batteries?
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I picked up one of the 3000mAh extended batteries several months back after my original stopped holding much charge. Great battery life on the new one, but after a while I started noticing odd issues popping up. The LED would show yellow instead of green, and I'd get the red charging failure led every so often.
Now those could have just been the age of the phone (almost 3 years old now with heavy and abusive use), but the main issue I know was the extended battery was the unit randomly started powering off. Often this would happen if I had the phone in my pocket, so I thought maybe the battery wasn't making a solid connection. Then it started happening when I had it laying on a table. I may have just gotten a bad battery out of the bunch, but it definitely doesn't seem up to snuff compared to OEM.
I've since gone back to using my original battery with it sitting on the charger almost all day. Never powers off randomly anymore. Just my 2 cents.
Edit: I should note that if you go through a reputable battery seller you shouldn't have any issues. I went through ebay and picked up the extended battery + cover + car charger for ~$15. I wasn't expecting much from the battery

Is there an extended battery for the mini pro?

Despite all the tricks to help preserve battery, I still find the performance of y standard 930 mAh battery very bad. Is there an extended (reliabl) battery for rhis phone and where can I get it?
Just gonna drop my experience in. It seems the battery lasts for about a day and a half. Which can be seen as over three days (depends what time you charge it on the first day) instead of using the normal homescreen, download helix launcher from the market, it helps alot
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One day and a half compared to my brothers Samsung's week is really a disgrace.
I already have another home screen, just got to like it, so not changing it at the moment.
I have contacted Seidio as they make extended batterys for other phones. Would not hurt if oter people did that too, so please, those who care about this problem, contact them and ask them.
I bought on e-bay a 1450mAh battery made by Jin Dian. A drastic improvement.
Didi anybody else try this? I got it but I'm not convinced it's better.
Seeing you all really hungry for power, it's just feel right to warn you guys. Never ever use cheap small portable charger that you spot either on a shop or ebay no matter how desperate you are. If you use it, best scenario, it only ruin your battery, or in the worse (like me) it ruin the phone. Both case has the same end result, the battery discharging way to quickly even when Idle.
How did it ruin your phone?
I would like to know. thanks
As I'm a long distance cyclist, I already own the Biologic ReeCharge. Anything that can be charged by usb can also be charged by that tool. I can use both my bicycle dynomo hub and the electricity network at home to charge the ReeCharge. Witch then is able to charge my phone. It's a kind of extra battery. Never have had any problems with that and I'm always glad on a cycle trip that I can keep my gadgets (most important gps) charged
http://www.dahon.com/accessories/2010/biologic-reecharge
Well, I don't know the technical details but it fried my batteries (that's right, more than one) before I realized it was the portable charger that caused and even after stop using it, it's still recurring (therefore, the phone is at fault) After asking my friend who used the same type charger once. They all said that it ruined their phones and told me if I want to have a portable charger, go for the lithium one that sony Ericsson's is selling.
hi,
i'm using varta charger type 57048:
http://www.amazon.de/Varta-Professi...=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&s=ce-de&qid=1291062768&sr=8-3
and i don't want to miss it on longer journeys. the usb-out function i would say is nearly as fast as the normal charger. one akku pack is enough for about 2 charges. if you are on a journey and not able to charge the akkus you can buy normal batteries. they give about 1 charge.
i have experiences with other chargers and phones and i would say this thing works really good because the usb-port of the charger turns off when batteries haven't enough voltage. this prevents your x10 battery from damage because wrong charging.
xperiaforme said:
Despite all the tricks to help preserve battery, I still find the performance of y standard 930 mAh battery very bad. Is there an extended (reliabl) battery for rhis phone and where can I get it?
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My x10a mini pro came with 970 mAh battery, not 930. Battery life is about a day and 1/2. I use USB car charger in the car on needed basis only. Hopefully USB car charger doesn't fry the battery.

**Samsung Galaxy Note 2500 mAh battery mod - Yes it works great!!!**

For those still using the TG01 I've just done a mod that gives my TG01 9 days on a single charge... that's right, 9 days on a single charge!!! Of course it depends on usage.
Image 1 (see thumbnails) shows the completed mod. I did this by making a battery tray out of 1/4" square pine rods I picked up at an RC hobby shop. The rear cover is Mugen's from their 2600 mAh battery kit.
Image 2 shows the battery connector (black). I snagged this from an HTC 8525 junk mainboard. It has 6 contacts and only needed 3 so just left the full length to add stability.
Image 3 shows a top view of the installed battery tray and the wooden retainer strip to the right.
Image 4 shows the battery tray and battery comparison.
Image 5 shows the battery tray sitting on top of the original Toshiba battery. There was a lot of tedious work to make this tray but it wasn't too difficult.
This mod has so far exceeded my expectations. Buying a genuine Samsung OEM battery (joint Japan-Korea product) probably is one reason for the fantastic performance. And the phone isn't very heavy. The new Samsung battery only requires a single charge, unlike my original multi-battery pack which required charging several times to get a full charge. The inherently inaccurate TG01 battery meter is still present but not a real problem with this mod.
I also bought an aftermarket 5000 mAh 'fat' battery kit for the Samsung Galaxy Note in case this one didn't meet expectations and am in the process of slightly modifying that battery (adding extensions to the electrical contacts) to use with this tray. I will have to modify the back cover as the 'fat' battery is 15mm thick. I'll give an update once that mod is completed and tested. If anyone would like additional details, photos, etc., just let me know.
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Update - Finally had to recharge my phone again. This time it managed 6 days (instead of "about 5 days" that I reported initially)!!! TBH these were mostly fairly light days, no videos and games, a mixture of calls, some camera shots, and some Internet browsing. I also forgot to turn it off one night. The battery might have lasted a full week but my TG01's whacky battery protective circuitry turns the phone off when the battery level falls below "28%". After popping the battery out to recharge in my external charger I decided to check the voltage. What to my surprise the battery still had around 3.2v remaining. I was thinking WTF as it's safe to discharge li-ion/li-po batteries down to 2.75v. I wonder if there is a way to override this ridiculously conservative setting. If anyone has any idea please chime in.
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Update #2 - Oct 24th
This Samsung battery just keeps getting better and better. My 3rd full recharge cycle yielded 8 full days of light usage. My 4th full recharge cycle jumped to 9 full days!!! The 5th cycle resulted in 5 days of mixed light and heavy usage and still probably had another day of use left. See my response to fxdjacentyfxd below for more details.
Cheers!
CrashMurdock said:
For those still using the TG01 I've just done a mod that gives my TG01 about 5 days on a single charge... that's right, about 5 days on a single charge!!! Of course it depends on usage.
Image 1 (see thumbnails) shows the completed mod. I did this by making a battery tray out of 1/4" square pine rods I picked up at an RC hobby shop. The rear cover is Mugen's from their 2600 mAh battery kit.
Image 2 shows the battery connector (black). I snagged this from an HTC 8525 junk mainboard. It has 6 contacts and only needed 3 so just left the full length to add stability.
Image 3 shows a top view of the installed battery tray and the wooden retainer strip to the right.
Image 4 shows the battery tray and battery comparison.
Image 5 shows the battery tray sitting on top of the original Toshiba battery. There was a lot of tedious work to make this tray but it wasn't too difficult.
This mod has so far exceeded my expectations. Buying a genuine Samsung OEM battery (joint Japan-Korea product) probably is one reason for the fantastic performance. And the phone isn't very heavy. The new Samsung battery only requires a single charge, unlike my original multi-battery pack which required charging several times to get a full charge. The inherently inaccurate TG01 battery meter is still present but not a real problem with this mod.
I also bought an aftermarket 5000 mAh 'fat' battery kit for the Samsung Galaxy Note in case this one didn't meet expectations and am in the process of slightly modifying that battery (adding extensions to the electrical contacts) to use with this tray. I will have to modify the back cover as the 'fat' battery is 15mm thick. I'll give an update once that mod is completed and tested. If anyone would like additional details, photos, etc., just let me know.
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It's great. But it's true. May I make it myself?
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It's great. But it's true. May I make it myself?
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Yes, you certainly may. I can take some more pictures and provide more details if you're interested. The only difficult part is to find a battery connector from a junk phone to connect the new battery. You will also have to modify the original TG01 back cover if you don't have the Mugen 2600 mAh kit cover. Other than that I used some heavy gauge copper wire to make the new battery tray harness and pine wood for the tray. The original Toshiba battery was the template to make the new wood battery tray. Again, this mod is a little tedious but not too difficult. I used pine wood for the battery tray as it is very light, strong, and easy to work with.
Good luck! :good:
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For those still using the TG01 I've just done a mod that gives my TG01 6 days on a single charge... that's right, 6 days on a single charge!!! Of course it depends on usage.
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Hi Jim. Nice work. I am glad You still use TG01 like me ))
Regards
Jacek
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Hi Jim. Nice work. I am glad You still use TG01 like me ))
Regards
Jacek
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Thanks Jacek! I appreciate the complement, especially coming from you, the battery mod master. :good: Yep, unfortunately the TG01 forums are beginning to have only echos as most have moved on. I really like my TG01 as it still does everything I need except for Skype & 3G. I confess I'm too lazy and a bit scared to mess around with cooking a new ROM to change the radio since I have no experience in such matters.
Regarding this battery mod I have to say this Samsung battery is incredible. I'm currently on day 8 of fairly light use (3rd recharge cycle) and my battery is finally down to 30%. I reboot the phone several times daily to update the inaccurate TG01 battery meter.
Regarding the battery meter I do have a question for you. Is there a way to modify the battery driver(?) or ??? so the phone will not shut off until the battery discharges down to 2.8-2.9v? We're losing quite a bit of time before recharges since the phone shuts off between 3.2-3.4v. Toshiba really screwed up on that one.
I'll be updating this thread so stay tuned my friend.
Cheers,
Jim
Hi Jim.
Sorry for late response. Yes, TG01 forum is almost dead
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I reboot the phone several times daily to update the inaccurate TG01 battery meter.
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Why do You do this at all ? Only for that to have accurate value ?
CrashMurdock said:
Regarding the battery meter I do have a question for you. Is there a way to modify the battery driver(?) or ??? so the phone will not shut off until the battery discharges down to 2.8-2.9v? We're losing quite a bit of time before recharges since the phone shuts off between 3.2-3.4v. Toshiba really screwed up on that one.
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As I remember when I was developing stub for original battery driver [ in fact my driver it is not native driver because I have ( I guess nobody have ) no knowledge how to access hardware responsible for battery measurements. It behaves exactly like device driver but calls original battery driver and sometimes ... cheat so that work with TG01 was possible under 20%. You know my 26% ]
I realized I had not any influence when TG01 shut off. I was doing some measurements. Sometimes it shut off when battery is about 3.2-3.4 ( typically ) but sometimes it shut of when battery is 2.91V . Take into account that having 3.2-3.4 battery have of course some capacity yet but You realize that there are ( can be ) big current flows ( peeks ) that can very easy do decrease voltage on snapdragon and other hardware below 3V and lower. I guess that is why voltage level when TG01 shuts off is so different.
Regards
Jacek
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Why do You do this at all ? Only for that to have accurate value?
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Greetings Jacek,
Sorry about the delay in responding. Had a cancer scare and had to take a trip to Bangkok for a complete physical. Luckily no cancer and all is good.
Regarding your question I was forced to reboot the TG01 several times daily or it would frequently turn itself off in the middle of phone calls. With my new Samsung battery I don't have to reboot it anymore but still do when the battery level drops to an indicated 30%-40% as the TG01 battery meter routine is still faulty. This new battery is so good it will last a full day even when starting at 30% charge.
I've been documenting recharge cycles and phone usage. Before going to Bangkok last week I got 9 full days of light usage! While in Bangkok I was using the phone a lot including lots of wi-fi time. I still got 5 full days with 30% remaining. I could have gotten another day but decided to recharge as hospital stay and overnight bus trip back home would have been too long before I could recharge.
I am extremely happy :laugh::victory::silly: with this new Samsung battery mod. Even still, I'm considering trying to modify my mod to use the new Samsung Galaxy Note 2 battery, rated at 3100mAh. Unfortunately, the Note 2 is so new I can't find the battery dimensions. There are no free lunches and since it has 24% more capacity it has to be 24% larger. If it's just 24% longer I can possibly modify my existing rig. If it's any wider it's not an option. If it's thicker then I would have to buy the 'fatter' Mugen cover like you have. At this late stage it isn't worth it, especially since this mod works so well.
Cheers my friend! :good:
Jim
Hi Jim.
Nice to hear You are healthy
It seems You are becoming best known battery mod maker in the world
It is nice You still want to do something with tg01.
Recently, after some rom modifications I had problems with frequent tg01 system restarts but it seems I know what was wrong. Having opportunity, i changed radio to 321 which seems to be better for talks than radio 1600 I typically was using.
Tests are in progress.
Cheers
Jacek
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Hi Jim.
Nice to hear You are healthy
It seems You are becoming best known battery mod maker in the world
It is nice You still want to do something with tg01.
Recently, after some rom modifications I had problems with frequent tg01 system restarts but it seems I know what was wrong. Having opportunity, i changed radio to 321 which seems to be better for talks than radio 1600 I typically was using.
Tests are in progress.
Cheers
Jacek
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Greetings Jacek,
Thank you for the kind words. Glad you were able to solve your radio problem. I made a mistake by putting one of my 1100mAh Cameron Sino batteries in my TG01 again. The reason was I had discharged my Samsung battery and had it on an external charger, but needed to make some calls. Now my phone is back in slow mode again unless I have Bluetooth turned on. I hope the problem is only temporary as the phone has been working perfectly until now. If you have any ideas please let me know.
Thanks, my friend!
Jim
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Greetings Jacek,
Now my phone is back in slow mode again unless I have Bluetooth turned on. I hope the problem is only temporary as the phone has been working perfectly until now. If you have any ideas please let me know.
Jim
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Hmmm , once again. You removed Your battery pack then You inserted fully charged Cameron Sino battery. From this time Your phone works very slow and only cure for it is to switch BT on ?
Regards
Jacek
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Hmmm , once again. You removed Your battery pack then You inserted fully charged Cameron Sino battery. From this time Your phone works very slow and only cure for it is to switch BT on ?
Regards
Jacek
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Yes, it's the exact same problem I had for months before I did the Samsung battery mod. Miraculously, the problem went away as soon as I installed the new Samsung. I have already removed the Cameron Sino and reinstalled the Samsung, but the 'slow' problem is still there. I have no idea why.
Thanks!
Jim
Tell mi Jim, having previously Samsung battery, You always drained it totally before charging( untill tg01 shutdown itself ) or rather You were charging it to full state again without tg01 shutdown ? It is "paranormal activity" for me but maybe reason is concerned with the fact that You removed power totally ( battery exchange ). I know it sounds stupid. Were You exchanging Samsung battery pack in the past many times and nothing wrong was happening ?
Regards
Jacek
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Tell mi Jim, having previously Samsung battery, You always drained it totally before charging( until tg01 shutdown itself ) or rather You were charging it to full state again without tg01 shutdown ? It is "paranormal activity" for me but maybe reason is concerned with the fact that You removed power totally ( battery exchange ). I know it sounds stupid. Were You exchanging Samsung battery pack in the past many times and nothing wrong was happening ?
Regards
Jacek
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Let me start by saying the original s-l-o-w problem just disappeared as soon as I started using the Samsung battery. I have to say that I have had NO problems at all using the Samsung battery. In fact, the experience with the phone is so much better because I don't even have to think about the battery anymore. Keep in mind it's a single battery so there is no fighting between battery protection circuits like I think I was having with my multi-battery mod.
To answer your question, at first I drained the Samsung battery until the TG01 auto-shut-off turned it off at around 26%. I did this because I read that a new battery needs several full discharge/recharge cycles to get maximum capacity of the battery. This has proven to be true as capacity increased each cycle finally leveling off at 9 full days between recharges. I've also partially recharged the Samsung with 30% remaining with no problems. I've only gone through about 9-10 recharge cycles to date with the Samsung because it usually lasts 8-9 days between recharges, dependent upon usage.
During this time I have also used the phone a time or two with the original Toshiba battery while the Samsung was charging, because the large Samsung battery takes a full day or night to fully recharge. The TG01 did not suffer the s-l-o-w mode then. It was only after I put the single Cameron Sino 1100mAh battery back in that the s-l-o-w mode problem started again.
I'm relatively sure a hard reset will fix the s-l-o-w problem because it worked before when using the Cameron Sino battery pack. Unfortunately the problem would come back. Now I believe the Cameron Sino battery's protective circuit may be damaged and caused the s-l-o-w problem. I won't be using that battery again. I'll update you after I hard reset the phone.
Cheers, my friend!
Jim
P.S. - Could you please post or send me your finger-swipe-to-unlock file? Mine disappeared during one of the master resets. THANKS!!!
Hi Jim.
I wait for Your hard reset results. Having opportunity maybe You change and test radio to 321 ?...
I do not quite understand what You mean "your finger-swipe-to-unlock file" ? You mean You want to remove "lock screen action" after going sleep at all ?
Regards
Jacek
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Hi Jim.
I wait for Your hard reset results. Having opportunity maybe You change and test radio to 321 ?...
I do not quite understand what You mean "your finger-swipe-to-unlock file" ? You mean You want to remove "lock screen action" after going sleep at all ?
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Jacek
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Hi Jacek,
I still haven't backed up my phone yet so haven't done the master reset yet. When I first installed your custom ROM it had an Android type 'swipe to unlock' feature. I disabled it because I had the auto-screen orientation turned on and it made the swipe to unlock difficult to use. I stopped using the auto-screen orientation a long time ago because it is so laggy. I'm having to unlock the phone using the original Windows Mobile unlock feature which is crappy and would like to add the swipe to unlock feature.
Thanks!
Jim
Jim, I am getting older but I can swear I have never had any android-like software.
My custom rom has always had default WM6.5/WM6.5.x screen locker/unlocker disabled. As You surely know, this unlocker is based on sliders. Maybe that is why You say it is like in androd. Being disabled, older fashion ( WM6.1 ) screen locker is active but as You said and I can confirm, it is poor working software and that is why I personaly for my usage, totally switched off and screen lock/unlock. I do not need it at all. You can enable sliders in registry by only one switch value.
All I really needed was some kind of screen locker when TG01 is active ( let's say navigation software is on ) and You want to put in to jacket pocket or to any bag.
Without any "touch" disabler it is very probable that You ( Your pocket or bag ) touch the screen. I created some piece of software ( assigned to camera button ) that locks the screen when I want and unlocks when I want.
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Jacek
Hello does anyone still use TG01?
The Samsung battery will be fully charged from TG01?
Any idea haow to modify the back cover?
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dreamH6 said:
Hello does anyone still use TG01?
The Samsung battery will be fully charged from TG01?
Any idea haow to modify the back cover?
Thanks
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Yes, it will be charged fully by TG01 internal charging circuit as long as the electrical contact points line up correctly. I did not modify the back cover. Instead I bought a 2600mAh battery cover from Mugen, who makes 2 different battery kits for the TG01, 2600 and 3900 mAh. If you don't mind paying a high price for their batteries you can just order a kit. Here is the link to Mugen:
http://www.mugen-power-batteries.com/toshiba/toshiba-tg01.html
Good luck and hope this helps!
Cheers &
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Yes, it will be charged fully by TG01 internal charging circuit as long as the electrical contact points line up correctly. I did not modify the back cover. Instead I bought a 2600mAh battery cover from Mugen, who makes 2 different battery kits for the TG01, 2600 and 3900 mAh. If you don't mind paying a high price for their batteries you can just order a kit. Here is the link to Mugen:
http://www.mugen-power-batteries.com/toshiba/toshiba-tg01.html
Good luck and hope this helps!
Cheers &
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I think they are no longer selling replacement cover.
I see only expensive kit battery + cover ($79,95), I paid the full TG01 less
I'll try to do my best on modifying original cover for an inexpensive samsung battery
dreamH6 said:
I think they are no longer selling replacement cover.
I see only expensive kit battery + cover ($79,95), I paid the full TG01 less
I'll try to do my best on modifying original cover for an inexpensive samsung battery
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I sent an email to them at: [email protected] and asked them to sell me just a replacement back cover. I lied and told them I bought the phone used and it already had the Mugen 2600 mAh battery and cover but that I had dropped the phone and damaged the cover. They sold me a new cover (with stylus) for $14.95 U.S. dollars, which included free international shipping. This was back in August 2011 so don't know if the price is the same now.
Their batteries are OK, but don't know why they charge 10x price for them. Since the TG01 is now a very old model they will probably be glad to sell to you just the back cover. They call it "backdoor".
I hope this helps. Good luck!

Replacement battery

Hey everyone,
I've finally decided to actively look for ways to extend my battery life, kinda fed up of the poor SoT and overnight drain.
I know there are other ROMs I can try that will improve the battery life, as well as other tips like disabling ok Google, but I was thinking more on the hardware level.
Has anyone looked for/replaced the battery on their Mi 9? I found a battery on AliExpress claiming to have the same form factor as the OEM while boasting 4650mAh
I'm incredibly sceptical of this but nevertheless, there's a small part of me itching to get it hoping it will add significant life to the device.
Any thoughts or reviews?
All those batterys are fake
Fake capacity
If it was possible to make a battery with same size of the original battery but with higher capacity why all oems doesnt make this type of batteries ?
I see iphone 5s with 4500mah capacity in the same size
That's exactly what I thought as well, but I'm not very familiar with how batteries are made etc, so I'm not sure if another company that dedicates themselves to making just batteries, later figured how to make bigger capacity in the same size.
But I tend to lean more on your same line of thought, which is why I wanted to know if anyone here had some first hand experience with these kind of claims.
Is there any good replacement batteries with the same capacity as the original one?
Does the Mi 9 Pro battery fit?
eBay has 4700 mAh extended battery cases for 29.99
Replacement of 4000mah battery for my mi9
I replaced of 4000mah battery for my mi9 recently and I'm satisfied with its performance.
-active drain ~ 12.1%
-static drain ~ 0.4%
Most of my activity is using LTE network to look at news.
The brand name of 4000mah battery is MARWAY.
Kris
Kris Chen said:
I replaced of 4000mah battery for my mi9 recently and I'm satisfied with its performance.
-active drain ~ 12.1%
-static drain ~ 0.4%
Most of my activity is using LTE network to look at news.
The brand name of 4000mah battery is MARWAY.
Kris
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It actually fits? Where did you get it?
Where did you buy it and can you give some me details of the battery? I'm really searching for a 4000mah battery for Europe (Germany) but i only saw fakes.
Yes and it does !
I get it from taiwan shopee ~ (https://shopee.tw/product/44600106/4819487274)
Kris
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It actually fits? Where did you get it?
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Kris Chen said:
I replaced of 4000mah battery for my mi9 recently and I'm satisfied with its performance.
-active drain ~ 12.1%
-static drain ~ 0.4%
Most of my activity is using LTE network to look at news.
The brand name of 4000mah battery is MARWAY.
Kris
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Are they sending to Europe ?
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Are they sending to Europe ?
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hi everyone, has anyone managed to find a replacement battery or a way to improve it?
Anyone know of any US sources for a replacement battery? I'm kind of in a pickle here. My case developed a crack in it several months ago. It was just a minor cosmetic thing so it hadn't bugged me too much. Lately every time I grab my phone I hear it creaking so I decided to look for an exact replacement case. The original store I bought mine from is listed as out of stock and searching for the part number elsewhere came up with 3 stores, all out of stock. Doing searches on ebay/amazon/ailibabba didn't come up with anything. I decided to just go ahead and get my phone out of this case and stick it into the stock TPU case. Anyway, I pop open the metal frame and the glass back literally flies off. I'm shocked to see the back of my phone now 90% popped outward. Looking from the side it's becuase the battery is one giant swollen blob! Everything is working fine, I had zero clue there was anything wrong until I tried taking it out of my case now I'm kind of on a desperate hunt for a replacement battery. I don't even know how I'm going to hold my phone together beyond attempting to cram it back into my metal/glassback case.
Edit: I ended up getting a replacement battery from iFixIt and using their replacement guide. Note, their guide is for the non-transparent edition. For the transparent edition, they use P2 pentalobe(0.8mm star) screws rather than phillips #00.
after EDL and its story everything is ok except there is no fast charging available and the phone charged normaly.
the original adaptor also rattles something in it maybe it is normal. MIUI 12 12.0.2
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Anyone know of any US sources for a replacement battery? I'm kind of in a pickle here. My case developed a crack in it several months ago. It was just a minor cosmetic thing so it hadn't bugged me too much. Lately every time I grab my phone I hear it creaking so I decided to look for an exact replacement case. The original store I bought mine from is listed as out of stock and searching for the part number elsewhere came up with 3 stores, all out of stock. Doing searches on ebay/amazon/ailibabba didn't come up with anything. I decided to just go ahead and get my phone out of this case and stick it into the stock TPU case. Anyway, I pop open the metal frame and the glass back literally flies off. I'm shocked to see the back of my phone now 90% popped outward. Looking from the side it's becuase the battery is one giant swollen blob! Everything is working fine, I had zero clue there was anything wrong until I tried taking it out of my case now I'm kind of on a desperate hunt for a replacement battery. I don't even know how I'm going to hold my phone together beyond attempting to cram it back into my metal/glassback case.
Edit: I ended up getting a replacement battery from iFixIt and using their replacement guide. Note, their guide is for the non-transparent edition. For the transparent edition, they use P2 pentalobe(0.8mm star) screws rather than phillips #00.
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I just ordered a replacement battery from ifixit as well. How is the battery? Are you noticing a difference from the stock battery?
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I just ordered a replacement battery from ifixit as well. How is the battery? Are you noticing a difference from the stock battery?
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Unfortunately it's way too soon for me to tell. I'm not sure I did battery calibration correctly because I replaced the battery last Wednesday, slow charged it to 100% on my slowest charger and let it continue on the slow charger for 2 hours, then unplugged it and continued to use it until it was so drained it couldn't turn on again(which to my surprise wasn't until Sunday evening). Then plugged in to that same slow charger without turning on the phone overnight. So I'm only a little over 2 days with the new battery. My SoT doesn't seem to be as good(my battery was at 65% this morning when I'm used to seeing low 70s-80s), but I might need to look back up how to do the battery calibration.
One note though, for some reason I had some difficulty getting the loud speaker realigned correctly. The connecting pins just didn't want to sit right. It took me three times taking it back apart until it worked properly. Might just be my phone but I'd be real careful with the alignment and do the whole "tightening a car tire" style turn each screw a little bit to make sure it seats flat. Again, it might just be a mfg defect with my particular phone as I didn't see anything online with anyone else having a similar problem.
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Unfortunately it's way too soon for me to tell. I'm not sure I did battery calibration correctly because I replaced the battery last Wednesday, slow charged it to 100% on my slowest charger and let it continue on the slow charger for 2 hours, then unplugged it and continued to use it until it was so drained it couldn't turn on again(which to my surprise wasn't until Sunday evening). Then plugged in to that same slow charger without turning on the phone overnight. So I'm only a little over 2 days with the new battery. My SoT doesn't seem to be as good(my battery was at 65% this morning when I'm used to seeing low 70s-80s), but I might need to look back up how to do the battery calibration.
One note though, for some reason I had some difficulty getting the loud speaker realigned correctly. The connecting pins just didn't want to sit right. It took me three times taking it back apart until it worked properly. Might just be my phone but I'd be real careful with the alignment and do the whole "tightening a car tire" style turn each screw a little bit to make sure it seats flat. Again, it might just be a mfg defect with my particular phone as I didn't see anything online with anyone else having a similar problem.
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Any update on the new battery? I got mine in, but debating if it will be worth it to change it or not. I appreciate the tips on replacing it.
Ulver said:
Any update on the new battery? I got mine in, but debating if it will be worth it to change it or not. I appreciate the tips on replacing it.
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If you are asking if I'm having a longer SoT, no. I'm not. I'm also using xiaomi.eu weekly which means I'm very used to inconsistent SoT as each week things change.
I have a transparent edition, which means rather than the phillips #00 screws you see in replacement guides I had 0.8mm star screws(P2 pentalobe).
The issue with my previous battery was it had ballooned to more than three times it's regular thickness which caused my back cover to pop off. So I don't have any advice on how to get the back off as mine had already fallen off. The funny bit is that I didn't replace the tape because I wanted to wait a few days to make sure everything was okay. My case ended up pressing the back cover tightly enough against the back that it ended up regluing itself when I took it out of the case to start retaping.
I had several issues with reassembly. My giant hands took quite awhile to get the antenna wire back on and since the replacement battery cable is a little longer than the original it took some wiggling until I was able to get the plug to be lined up to lock in. After I put it back together I tested everything and discovered the loudspeaker wasn't working. You need to screw it down like you are putting a tire on a car. Don't tighten each screw individually but go around to each one so when it's going down it's going down flat so the connection is straight(similar issue to the battery cable, if it's not exactly parallel, it doesn't connect).
I ended up doing a battery replacement. I got an original (at least it sure looks like it) and a new back cover to replace my scratched one. The install was easy, and I'm actually getting better life than the old one. Not dramatically better, but still a slight improvement.
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I ended up doing a battery replacement. I got an original (at least it sure looks like it) and a new back cover to replace my scratched one. The install was easy, and I'm actually getting better life than the old one. Not dramatically better, but still a slight improvement.
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Do you mind giving the link for both?

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