For those still using the TG01 I've just done a mod that gives my TG01 9 days on a single charge... that's right, 9 days on a single charge!!! Of course it depends on usage.
Image 1 (see thumbnails) shows the completed mod. I did this by making a battery tray out of 1/4" square pine rods I picked up at an RC hobby shop. The rear cover is Mugen's from their 2600 mAh battery kit.
Image 2 shows the battery connector (black). I snagged this from an HTC 8525 junk mainboard. It has 6 contacts and only needed 3 so just left the full length to add stability.
Image 3 shows a top view of the installed battery tray and the wooden retainer strip to the right.
Image 4 shows the battery tray and battery comparison.
Image 5 shows the battery tray sitting on top of the original Toshiba battery. There was a lot of tedious work to make this tray but it wasn't too difficult.
This mod has so far exceeded my expectations. Buying a genuine Samsung OEM battery (joint Japan-Korea product) probably is one reason for the fantastic performance. And the phone isn't very heavy. The new Samsung battery only requires a single charge, unlike my original multi-battery pack which required charging several times to get a full charge. The inherently inaccurate TG01 battery meter is still present but not a real problem with this mod.
I also bought an aftermarket 5000 mAh 'fat' battery kit for the Samsung Galaxy Note in case this one didn't meet expectations and am in the process of slightly modifying that battery (adding extensions to the electrical contacts) to use with this tray. I will have to modify the back cover as the 'fat' battery is 15mm thick. I'll give an update once that mod is completed and tested. If anyone would like additional details, photos, etc., just let me know.
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Update - Finally had to recharge my phone again. This time it managed 6 days (instead of "about 5 days" that I reported initially)!!! TBH these were mostly fairly light days, no videos and games, a mixture of calls, some camera shots, and some Internet browsing. I also forgot to turn it off one night. The battery might have lasted a full week but my TG01's whacky battery protective circuitry turns the phone off when the battery level falls below "28%". After popping the battery out to recharge in my external charger I decided to check the voltage. What to my surprise the battery still had around 3.2v remaining. I was thinking WTF as it's safe to discharge li-ion/li-po batteries down to 2.75v. I wonder if there is a way to override this ridiculously conservative setting. If anyone has any idea please chime in.
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Update #2 - Oct 24th
This Samsung battery just keeps getting better and better. My 3rd full recharge cycle yielded 8 full days of light usage. My 4th full recharge cycle jumped to 9 full days!!! The 5th cycle resulted in 5 days of mixed light and heavy usage and still probably had another day of use left. See my response to fxdjacentyfxd below for more details.
Cheers!
CrashMurdock said:
For those still using the TG01 I've just done a mod that gives my TG01 about 5 days on a single charge... that's right, about 5 days on a single charge!!! Of course it depends on usage.
Image 1 (see thumbnails) shows the completed mod. I did this by making a battery tray out of 1/4" square pine rods I picked up at an RC hobby shop. The rear cover is Mugen's from their 2600 mAh battery kit.
Image 2 shows the battery connector (black). I snagged this from an HTC 8525 junk mainboard. It has 6 contacts and only needed 3 so just left the full length to add stability.
Image 3 shows a top view of the installed battery tray and the wooden retainer strip to the right.
Image 4 shows the battery tray and battery comparison.
Image 5 shows the battery tray sitting on top of the original Toshiba battery. There was a lot of tedious work to make this tray but it wasn't too difficult.
This mod has so far exceeded my expectations. Buying a genuine Samsung OEM battery (joint Japan-Korea product) probably is one reason for the fantastic performance. And the phone isn't very heavy. The new Samsung battery only requires a single charge, unlike my original multi-battery pack which required charging several times to get a full charge. The inherently inaccurate TG01 battery meter is still present but not a real problem with this mod.
I also bought an aftermarket 5000 mAh 'fat' battery kit for the Samsung Galaxy Note in case this one didn't meet expectations and am in the process of slightly modifying that battery (adding extensions to the electrical contacts) to use with this tray. I will have to modify the back cover as the 'fat' battery is 15mm thick. I'll give an update once that mod is completed and tested. If anyone would like additional details, photos, etc., just let me know.
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It's great. But it's true. May I make it myself?
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It's great. But it's true. May I make it myself?
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Yes, you certainly may. I can take some more pictures and provide more details if you're interested. The only difficult part is to find a battery connector from a junk phone to connect the new battery. You will also have to modify the original TG01 back cover if you don't have the Mugen 2600 mAh kit cover. Other than that I used some heavy gauge copper wire to make the new battery tray harness and pine wood for the tray. The original Toshiba battery was the template to make the new wood battery tray. Again, this mod is a little tedious but not too difficult. I used pine wood for the battery tray as it is very light, strong, and easy to work with.
Good luck! :good:
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For those still using the TG01 I've just done a mod that gives my TG01 6 days on a single charge... that's right, 6 days on a single charge!!! Of course it depends on usage.
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Hi Jim. Nice work. I am glad You still use TG01 like me ))
Regards
Jacek
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Hi Jim. Nice work. I am glad You still use TG01 like me ))
Regards
Jacek
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Thanks Jacek! I appreciate the complement, especially coming from you, the battery mod master. :good: Yep, unfortunately the TG01 forums are beginning to have only echos as most have moved on. I really like my TG01 as it still does everything I need except for Skype & 3G. I confess I'm too lazy and a bit scared to mess around with cooking a new ROM to change the radio since I have no experience in such matters.
Regarding this battery mod I have to say this Samsung battery is incredible. I'm currently on day 8 of fairly light use (3rd recharge cycle) and my battery is finally down to 30%. I reboot the phone several times daily to update the inaccurate TG01 battery meter.
Regarding the battery meter I do have a question for you. Is there a way to modify the battery driver(?) or ??? so the phone will not shut off until the battery discharges down to 2.8-2.9v? We're losing quite a bit of time before recharges since the phone shuts off between 3.2-3.4v. Toshiba really screwed up on that one.
I'll be updating this thread so stay tuned my friend.
Cheers,
Jim
Hi Jim.
Sorry for late response. Yes, TG01 forum is almost dead
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I reboot the phone several times daily to update the inaccurate TG01 battery meter.
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Why do You do this at all ? Only for that to have accurate value ?
CrashMurdock said:
Regarding the battery meter I do have a question for you. Is there a way to modify the battery driver(?) or ??? so the phone will not shut off until the battery discharges down to 2.8-2.9v? We're losing quite a bit of time before recharges since the phone shuts off between 3.2-3.4v. Toshiba really screwed up on that one.
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As I remember when I was developing stub for original battery driver [ in fact my driver it is not native driver because I have ( I guess nobody have ) no knowledge how to access hardware responsible for battery measurements. It behaves exactly like device driver but calls original battery driver and sometimes ... cheat so that work with TG01 was possible under 20%. You know my 26% ]
I realized I had not any influence when TG01 shut off. I was doing some measurements. Sometimes it shut off when battery is about 3.2-3.4 ( typically ) but sometimes it shut of when battery is 2.91V . Take into account that having 3.2-3.4 battery have of course some capacity yet but You realize that there are ( can be ) big current flows ( peeks ) that can very easy do decrease voltage on snapdragon and other hardware below 3V and lower. I guess that is why voltage level when TG01 shuts off is so different.
Regards
Jacek
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Why do You do this at all ? Only for that to have accurate value?
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Greetings Jacek,
Sorry about the delay in responding. Had a cancer scare and had to take a trip to Bangkok for a complete physical. Luckily no cancer and all is good.
Regarding your question I was forced to reboot the TG01 several times daily or it would frequently turn itself off in the middle of phone calls. With my new Samsung battery I don't have to reboot it anymore but still do when the battery level drops to an indicated 30%-40% as the TG01 battery meter routine is still faulty. This new battery is so good it will last a full day even when starting at 30% charge.
I've been documenting recharge cycles and phone usage. Before going to Bangkok last week I got 9 full days of light usage! While in Bangkok I was using the phone a lot including lots of wi-fi time. I still got 5 full days with 30% remaining. I could have gotten another day but decided to recharge as hospital stay and overnight bus trip back home would have been too long before I could recharge.
I am extremely happy :laugh::victory::silly: with this new Samsung battery mod. Even still, I'm considering trying to modify my mod to use the new Samsung Galaxy Note 2 battery, rated at 3100mAh. Unfortunately, the Note 2 is so new I can't find the battery dimensions. There are no free lunches and since it has 24% more capacity it has to be 24% larger. If it's just 24% longer I can possibly modify my existing rig. If it's any wider it's not an option. If it's thicker then I would have to buy the 'fatter' Mugen cover like you have. At this late stage it isn't worth it, especially since this mod works so well.
Cheers my friend! :good:
Jim
Hi Jim.
Nice to hear You are healthy
It seems You are becoming best known battery mod maker in the world
It is nice You still want to do something with tg01.
Recently, after some rom modifications I had problems with frequent tg01 system restarts but it seems I know what was wrong. Having opportunity, i changed radio to 321 which seems to be better for talks than radio 1600 I typically was using.
Tests are in progress.
Cheers
Jacek
fxdjacentyfxd said:
Hi Jim.
Nice to hear You are healthy
It seems You are becoming best known battery mod maker in the world
It is nice You still want to do something with tg01.
Recently, after some rom modifications I had problems with frequent tg01 system restarts but it seems I know what was wrong. Having opportunity, i changed radio to 321 which seems to be better for talks than radio 1600 I typically was using.
Tests are in progress.
Cheers
Jacek
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Greetings Jacek,
Thank you for the kind words. Glad you were able to solve your radio problem. I made a mistake by putting one of my 1100mAh Cameron Sino batteries in my TG01 again. The reason was I had discharged my Samsung battery and had it on an external charger, but needed to make some calls. Now my phone is back in slow mode again unless I have Bluetooth turned on. I hope the problem is only temporary as the phone has been working perfectly until now. If you have any ideas please let me know.
Thanks, my friend!
Jim
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Greetings Jacek,
Now my phone is back in slow mode again unless I have Bluetooth turned on. I hope the problem is only temporary as the phone has been working perfectly until now. If you have any ideas please let me know.
Jim
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Hmmm , once again. You removed Your battery pack then You inserted fully charged Cameron Sino battery. From this time Your phone works very slow and only cure for it is to switch BT on ?
Regards
Jacek
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Hmmm , once again. You removed Your battery pack then You inserted fully charged Cameron Sino battery. From this time Your phone works very slow and only cure for it is to switch BT on ?
Regards
Jacek
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Yes, it's the exact same problem I had for months before I did the Samsung battery mod. Miraculously, the problem went away as soon as I installed the new Samsung. I have already removed the Cameron Sino and reinstalled the Samsung, but the 'slow' problem is still there. I have no idea why.
Thanks!
Jim
Tell mi Jim, having previously Samsung battery, You always drained it totally before charging( untill tg01 shutdown itself ) or rather You were charging it to full state again without tg01 shutdown ? It is "paranormal activity" for me but maybe reason is concerned with the fact that You removed power totally ( battery exchange ). I know it sounds stupid. Were You exchanging Samsung battery pack in the past many times and nothing wrong was happening ?
Regards
Jacek
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Tell mi Jim, having previously Samsung battery, You always drained it totally before charging( until tg01 shutdown itself ) or rather You were charging it to full state again without tg01 shutdown ? It is "paranormal activity" for me but maybe reason is concerned with the fact that You removed power totally ( battery exchange ). I know it sounds stupid. Were You exchanging Samsung battery pack in the past many times and nothing wrong was happening ?
Regards
Jacek
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Let me start by saying the original s-l-o-w problem just disappeared as soon as I started using the Samsung battery. I have to say that I have had NO problems at all using the Samsung battery. In fact, the experience with the phone is so much better because I don't even have to think about the battery anymore. Keep in mind it's a single battery so there is no fighting between battery protection circuits like I think I was having with my multi-battery mod.
To answer your question, at first I drained the Samsung battery until the TG01 auto-shut-off turned it off at around 26%. I did this because I read that a new battery needs several full discharge/recharge cycles to get maximum capacity of the battery. This has proven to be true as capacity increased each cycle finally leveling off at 9 full days between recharges. I've also partially recharged the Samsung with 30% remaining with no problems. I've only gone through about 9-10 recharge cycles to date with the Samsung because it usually lasts 8-9 days between recharges, dependent upon usage.
During this time I have also used the phone a time or two with the original Toshiba battery while the Samsung was charging, because the large Samsung battery takes a full day or night to fully recharge. The TG01 did not suffer the s-l-o-w mode then. It was only after I put the single Cameron Sino 1100mAh battery back in that the s-l-o-w mode problem started again.
I'm relatively sure a hard reset will fix the s-l-o-w problem because it worked before when using the Cameron Sino battery pack. Unfortunately the problem would come back. Now I believe the Cameron Sino battery's protective circuit may be damaged and caused the s-l-o-w problem. I won't be using that battery again. I'll update you after I hard reset the phone.
Cheers, my friend!
Jim
P.S. - Could you please post or send me your finger-swipe-to-unlock file? Mine disappeared during one of the master resets. THANKS!!!
Hi Jim.
I wait for Your hard reset results. Having opportunity maybe You change and test radio to 321 ?...
I do not quite understand what You mean "your finger-swipe-to-unlock file" ? You mean You want to remove "lock screen action" after going sleep at all ?
Regards
Jacek
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Hi Jim.
I wait for Your hard reset results. Having opportunity maybe You change and test radio to 321 ?...
I do not quite understand what You mean "your finger-swipe-to-unlock file" ? You mean You want to remove "lock screen action" after going sleep at all ?
Regards
Jacek
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Hi Jacek,
I still haven't backed up my phone yet so haven't done the master reset yet. When I first installed your custom ROM it had an Android type 'swipe to unlock' feature. I disabled it because I had the auto-screen orientation turned on and it made the swipe to unlock difficult to use. I stopped using the auto-screen orientation a long time ago because it is so laggy. I'm having to unlock the phone using the original Windows Mobile unlock feature which is crappy and would like to add the swipe to unlock feature.
Thanks!
Jim
Jim, I am getting older but I can swear I have never had any android-like software.
My custom rom has always had default WM6.5/WM6.5.x screen locker/unlocker disabled. As You surely know, this unlocker is based on sliders. Maybe that is why You say it is like in androd. Being disabled, older fashion ( WM6.1 ) screen locker is active but as You said and I can confirm, it is poor working software and that is why I personaly for my usage, totally switched off and screen lock/unlock. I do not need it at all. You can enable sliders in registry by only one switch value.
All I really needed was some kind of screen locker when TG01 is active ( let's say navigation software is on ) and You want to put in to jacket pocket or to any bag.
Without any "touch" disabler it is very probable that You ( Your pocket or bag ) touch the screen. I created some piece of software ( assigned to camera button ) that locks the screen when I want and unlocks when I want.
Regards
Jacek
Hello does anyone still use TG01?
The Samsung battery will be fully charged from TG01?
Any idea haow to modify the back cover?
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dreamH6 said:
Hello does anyone still use TG01?
The Samsung battery will be fully charged from TG01?
Any idea haow to modify the back cover?
Thanks
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Yes, it will be charged fully by TG01 internal charging circuit as long as the electrical contact points line up correctly. I did not modify the back cover. Instead I bought a 2600mAh battery cover from Mugen, who makes 2 different battery kits for the TG01, 2600 and 3900 mAh. If you don't mind paying a high price for their batteries you can just order a kit. Here is the link to Mugen:
http://www.mugen-power-batteries.com/toshiba/toshiba-tg01.html
Good luck and hope this helps!
Cheers &
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Yes, it will be charged fully by TG01 internal charging circuit as long as the electrical contact points line up correctly. I did not modify the back cover. Instead I bought a 2600mAh battery cover from Mugen, who makes 2 different battery kits for the TG01, 2600 and 3900 mAh. If you don't mind paying a high price for their batteries you can just order a kit. Here is the link to Mugen:
http://www.mugen-power-batteries.com/toshiba/toshiba-tg01.html
Good luck and hope this helps!
Cheers &
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I think they are no longer selling replacement cover.
I see only expensive kit battery + cover ($79,95), I paid the full TG01 less
I'll try to do my best on modifying original cover for an inexpensive samsung battery
dreamH6 said:
I think they are no longer selling replacement cover.
I see only expensive kit battery + cover ($79,95), I paid the full TG01 less
I'll try to do my best on modifying original cover for an inexpensive samsung battery
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I sent an email to them at: [email protected] and asked them to sell me just a replacement back cover. I lied and told them I bought the phone used and it already had the Mugen 2600 mAh battery and cover but that I had dropped the phone and damaged the cover. They sold me a new cover (with stylus) for $14.95 U.S. dollars, which included free international shipping. This was back in August 2011 so don't know if the price is the same now.
Their batteries are OK, but don't know why they charge 10x price for them. Since the TG01 is now a very old model they will probably be glad to sell to you just the back cover. They call it "backdoor".
I hope this helps. Good luck!
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Using O2 Atom Exec..
I find the battery gets drained pretty quickly..
SO i went on ebay
found this
http://cgi.ebay.com/3200mAh-HI-BATT...ameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem#ebayphotohosting
This battery claims to be"
3200mAH
THATS 2 TIMES the ones that came with the phone at 1530mAH
is this possible?? ??
Should i buy? My phone battery will last a lot longer?
DavidW, buy yours from Worcell. You should be in the area. I bought a standard cap battery from them but they have extended ones as well. Even the standard ones perform better. <_<
That's for real I've seen a lot of them. The problem is they make your phone fat.
Mochan said:
That's for real I've seen a lot of them. The problem is they make your phone fat.
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it has a replacement back battery pack that will make ur atom bulky, coz the battery itself is bulky.
^ correct. Remember that it will no longer fit in standard cases you can buy from the shelves.
I already bought 1. I'm still waiting for it to arrive though. I'll give you guys some feedback as soon as it arrives. I'll post some pics too if possible.
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I already bought 1. I'm still waiting for it to arrive though. I'll give you guys some feedback as soon as it arrives. I'll post some pics too if possible.
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Pics and time it lasts woud be good!
Is there a difference between the XP-02 battery that comes with the atom and the XP-09 which can be bought (and says that it can be used in atom)?
What the .... does this thread have to do with Atom Upgrading?
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What the .... does this thread have to do with Atom Upgrading?
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it has some connection, he need to upgrade his atom battery hehehe
Yeah him and a million other Atom users!
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Yeah him and a million other Atom users, however we all dont start threads over and over and over for the same damn topic posted in 60 other threads (without reading first) then abuse the hell out of other members for doing the same.....
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cool down homer ...relax and will kill all pest thread in the right time
Got my 3200mah battery!!!
It's thick!!! I couldn't use my original battery cover, they provided me anew bulkier one.
Not for thickness conscious people!!! Silicon case can help protect from scratches çoz it stretches. However, got to keep my metal case in the drawer çoz it couldn't fit. 2.1 times thicker than the original battery.
I love the battery life though. I kept it open from 11 PM to 9 am from 80% down to 57%. Backlight at minimum but lit all the way though 9 am.
Slow to charge.
I'll try and see how long it will last using wifi and will provide feedback.
yetdy said:
Got my 3200mah battery!!!
It's thick!!! I couldn't use my original battery cover, they provided me anew bulkier one.
Not for thickness conscious people!!! Silicon case can help protect from scratches çoz it stretches. However, got to keep my metal case in the drawer çoz it couldn't fit. 2.1 times thicker than the original battery.
I love the battery life though. I kept it open from 11 PM to 9 am from 80% down to 57%. Backlight at minimum but lit all the way though 9 am.
Slow to charge.
I'll try and see how long it will last using wifi and will provide feedback.
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Bro post some pic for us can?and wat brand did u buy? 11pm to 9am, 80% to 57% isnt too impressive actually. However Li batt need some usage before reaching its peak so expect the life to be longer after some usage
I saw some battery pack on web which hold 4xAAA battery that can charge our atom. Anyone have any ideas whether it will cause any potential problem to our batt or device? Im using a 1xAAA battery pack now for emergency use cos it wont charge much
Just before my Atom went to PDA heven ,
I bought a Mugen extended battery.
3000 mAh
came with 3 new covers (black/grey/white)
worked a treat , but did double the width of the phone
(can show you pic's if you like.)
Bought from a member of this site, who is one of the top 5 donators.
Australia based.
http://www.pressdigital.com.au
can highly recommend them .
(safer than e-bay IMHO )
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Bro post some pic for us can?and wat brand did u buy? 11pm to 9am, 80% to 57% isnt too impressive actually. However Li batt need some usage before reaching its peak so expect the life to be longer after some usage
I saw some battery pack on web which hold 4xAAA battery that can charge our atom. Anyone have any ideas whether it will cause any potential problem to our batt or device? Im using a 1xAAA battery pack now for emergency use cos it wont charge much
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I post the picture of the one im using as a back up for my atom(Jiggs WM6).
Been using this batt pack for almost 6 months now.
arnelm2002 said:
I post the picture of the one im using as a back up for my atom(Jiggs WM6).
Been using this batt pack for almost 6 months now.
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Look like the one for ipod is it? how much did u pay for it?
Ok. I got the figures now. With 2 hours on and off usage of the Phone and about 3 hrs of solitaire (3% per 10 minutes of play), I ended up with 50% from 11 AM this morning to 9 PM. No wifi or gprs.
Wifi will eat 10% per 1/2 hr of use.
Charging time became considerably less. About the same as the original battery. Great already for me considering I used to charge at least 2 times a day with the original battery while it was still new. 4 times nowadays. (I charge whenever I see the battery is already down to 50 to 60%.
Sorry I couldn't send you a pic of the actual battery coz my wife is using our camera. Just imagine your atom turning into a turtle or a mini station wagon. The additional thickness is as thick as any plastic part of the side of the atom (it's plastic-rubber(volume button)-plastic).
The new battery doesn't come off easy. I mean it's easy to install but it's really hard getting it out. However, the cover that came with it can be used with both original and new batteries so you don't need to bring along 2 covers for long trips. I just wish they designed the cover better.
I bought this from "battery center" in ebay(not bidding though). It's about Php 1,169.00(USD 25.++) including shipping snd insurance. Cheaper than any atom battery you can buy here in the Philippines (cheapest so far is Php 1,400.00). Could be cheaper if I bought 3 or more.
Has anyone tried this baby yet? If You have then please some feedback.
I bought one a couple months ago when i bought my hermes, it does add a good centimeter to the phone's thickness, but i think it's oh so worth it.
i.e. - Regular battery with regular use(internet here and there, no music) I *might* get a day and a half before it's completely dead.
3000mAh battery - With regular to heavy use after 3 days i still usually have around 40% battery left. Best thing I've ever bought for my phone, except for maybe my jawbone 2 headset ^^
oh speaking of that, with a bluetooth headset synched to my hermes with the regular battery it's dead in a day, whereas again, I avg about 3 or so with the 3000mAh with the bluetooth headset synched all day everyday.
its 2X of the standard 1350mAH
Hi, I have the 1500mAh Li-POL, exactly same size as the original.
I can't really say if the duration is really better than the original one when new. I had a different ROM/Radio and have no intention to get back to WM5 just to test.
By the way, lately I observed a faster drain (anyway more than 1 day with normal use) but might be related to a Radio downgrade carried by an installed ROM. I hope I can give new (and more positive) info when I upgrade the Radio again.
Sounds good to me, i will get one sometime, if i can get double the battery life out of my hermes, i will be happy
how much does it (3000mAh battery) cost ?
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how much does it (3000mAh battery) cost ?
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£14 from a quick search on ebay UK. No sign of a 3000mAh on Dealextreme yet though (99% cheapest supplier!)
I have a 2800mah I've been using for a while, def improvement on the stock one but I'd quite like a second high capacity one to keep in my pocket.
best $16 spent EVER!! i love my battery it takes me whole 3days to kill it including playing MP3's, Internet, Texting and camera. GET IT YOU WON'T BE SORRY
is there a risk with using non genuine batteries?
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is there a risk with using non genuine batteries?
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I picked up one of the 3000mAh extended batteries several months back after my original stopped holding much charge. Great battery life on the new one, but after a while I started noticing odd issues popping up. The LED would show yellow instead of green, and I'd get the red charging failure led every so often.
Now those could have just been the age of the phone (almost 3 years old now with heavy and abusive use), but the main issue I know was the extended battery was the unit randomly started powering off. Often this would happen if I had the phone in my pocket, so I thought maybe the battery wasn't making a solid connection. Then it started happening when I had it laying on a table. I may have just gotten a bad battery out of the bunch, but it definitely doesn't seem up to snuff compared to OEM.
I've since gone back to using my original battery with it sitting on the charger almost all day. Never powers off randomly anymore. Just my 2 cents.
Edit: I should note that if you go through a reputable battery seller you shouldn't have any issues. I went through ebay and picked up the extended battery + cover + car charger for ~$15. I wasn't expecting much from the battery
Have just bought an Hero 3000mAh battery and larger cover for £14.99 uk (free postage too) for a test. Will report back as to performance since it has just arrived and am in process of charging.
Only downside so far is thicker cover is black, but that is puerly a cosmetic factor and doesn't bother me too much. Am hoping that this will give me better than a days charge with Android 2.1 ROMs.
Am not sure that I can post where I bought the battery from on the Forum as this could be considered spamming. Could someone clarify if I am able to give the link.
I have just purchased one as well after seeing this post, Will hopefully be ok.
Initial impressions of the battery seem to be positive (pun intended). Had a slight worry when battery indicator dropped a single bar within an hour, 20 hours later and indicator is still sat at one bar from full.
Am still on my first charge and expect the battery to reach it's full potential (another pun) after a couple of charges. So far am very pleased with value of this battery and the charge it holds.
Could you maybe post some pics on how thick your hero is with the new battery
does a 3000Ma battery can do a damage to the phone?
if it doesn't, why everyone dont buy it?
Bit difficult for me to take photos at the moment, my camera is mounted up for my work and takes ages to set back up. The battery cover adds about 6mm to the depth of the phone in an area equal to the size of the battery. I actually have big hands and find it more comfortable to hold than the standard cover.
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does a 3000Ma battery can do a damage to the phone?
if it doesn't, why everyone dont buy it?
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3000mAh is the capacity of the battery it should run for longer, not the voltage supplied so no damage should occur. The problem comes with quality control on aftermarket batteries, they can be of lower capacity than a standard battery, despite claims of a higher capacity.
There have also been cases of aftermarket batteries overheating and expoding, it is rare but can happen. I bought the battery as an experiment to see if it lived up to the claims and am prepared to take the small risk of serious hazards with the battery. In the end it's down to paying for a name and strict quality control, Kellogs Cornflakes or Unbranded Breakfast Crunchies.
The large capacity battery's make your phone fat and ugly
I rather work with 20 hours of total battery life with a beautiful piece of kit, then to run 40 hours with an ugly 80's looking fatso.
JanSchotsmans said:
The large capacity battery's make your phone fat and ugly
I rather work with 20 hours of total battery life with a beautiful piece of kit, then to run 40 hours with an ugly 80's looking fatso.
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I don't mind having a fat and ugly phone, it tends to be topic of conversation and draws attention away from the very similar owner in my case
feedback please
I agree u don't mind having a thick phone ad long ad its safe and gives more power so pleas to those who have bought this battery can you please provide link to page and please any feedback on this battery is very much welcome
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I agree u don't mind having a thick phone ad long ad its safe and gives more power so pleas to those who have bought this battery can you please provide link to page and please any feedback on this battery is very much welcome
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Am not sure on rules about posting links to retailers, but here it is http://www.oddsandpods.co.uk/hero-e...-replacement-back-cover-p-120.html#googlebase if anyone objects please PM me and will remove the link
If you enter FP code in the checkout you will get Free Postage
One thing I have noticed about charging this battery, is that the indicator will show battery as fully charged. I found that giving an extra hour after fully charged is shown will give a much better charge. So far the battery will give a good 36Hrs with Wifi continually on, haven't tried it with WiFi off for a long period, so far about 12hrs and it is still showing fully charged.
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this was really helpful... i will go ahead and buy one
Has this battery worked good for you guys? No problems? I kind of need a bigger battery for the times I'm doing jobtravels etc. Earlier experiences in non original batteries are both good and bad. Bought a battery for my HTC Diamond, and the phone got fried. Don't wanna experience that again (even though my job buys me new phones when I need one)...
Just wanted to know you my experiences.
I have a 2600 mAh extended battery and my running time of the phone with enabled WiFi and Nimbuzz is about 48 hours. Without WiFi, pure Standby, is about 85-90 hours.
You need at least 10-15 recharge cycles to get the full capacity out from the battery.
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Just wanted to know you my experiences.
I have a 2600 mAh extended battery and my running time of the phone with enabled WiFi and Nimbuzz is about 48 hours. Without WiFi, pure Standby, is about 85-90 hours.
You need at least 10-15 recharge cycles to get the full capacity out from the battery.
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Sounds great. I might have to try one of these batteries. What battery did you buy?
I bought one of this too, off Ebay. Although the phone is a bit uglier and slightly heavier, the battery seems to last between 2 and 3 times as long. I gotta say it's totally been worth it. The extra size isn't that noticable either...most people look at the front, right?
Well i bought one and i rly dont like it.
Its almost a half centimeter bigger and allot heavier.
So be ware the phone does get ugly but you do get more battery power.
Tbh i rather recharge my phone everyday then make it so ugly
I've just ordered this battery.
Can any one give some real numbers? For example how long will it last with 3g network active. I bought this one for outdoor activities when I can't recharge for a few days and I would like to know how many days I can depend on it.
Thanks!
I rooted my phone and tweaked the crap out of it.
Runs 48 hours with standard battery now.
No need for fat and ugly
I have this battery + cover too.
Because it's bigger, I find it easier to press the hardware buttons on the bottom of the front of the Hero. THe only drawback is the total volume in your pocket, but that's just a minor point.
Also, flashing Modaco's 3.1 Rom and the newest RADIO Rom, the phone lasts for about 6-7 days with normal use (wifi/3g on when i need it, some regular phonecalls/texts)
So my Moto Z 2016 fell into the Android 8.0 Oreo upgrade cluster**** and became a victim of the famous massive battery drainage, to the point it became impossible to use without keeping it plugged to a charger. Thing is one would logically assume this is a software issue, and therefore a rollback/downgrade would be enough to solve this problem. However, after dealing with multiple software upgrades and downgrades for 2-3 days straight with and without RSDLite in every imaginable way possible, I managed to install Android 6.0 Lollipop on the phone and everything works excellently, but the battery keeps having the same issues it had the second that phone got the lovely 8.0 update.
So my questions are: is it even remotely correct to assume the update caused physical damage to the battery? Or -even if I completely reinstalled a totally different Android version- there is still some part of the phone that contains an unmodifiable chunk of software that is corruptedly managing the battery information, therefore making buying a new battery irrelevant?
I'm asking this because I decided to believe in the first question as a yes and was about to proceed to buy a new battery AND a new glue to place the screen again back to where it is, but decided to make this thread to maybe avoid buying things that could've been unnecesary. Thanks in advance.
It's time to get a new battery.
Mine is pretty much okay with Oreo update back then. But after just 1++ year usage (bought it in Sept 2017), the battery life just dropped significantly.
Replaced it, and now it working fine. Even the repair center didn't factory reset my device (I'm on Omni ROM), so it couldn't be a software issue.
I can confirm new battery will solve the problem. I had tried everything before I ordered an original battery pack (made by Lg and my phone has juice for more than a day now. (a half before)
I think fast/turbo charging also kill the battery, so now I use a 1,5/2A charger
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So my Moto Z 2016 fell into the Android 8.0 Oreo upgrade cluster**** and became a victim of the famous massive battery drainage, to the point it became impossible to use without keeping it plugged to a charger. Thing is one would logically assume this is a software issue, and therefore a rollback/downgrade would be enough to solve this problem. However, after dealing with multiple software upgrades and downgrades for 2-3 days straight with and without RSDLite in every imaginable way possible, I managed to install Android 6.0 Lollipop on the phone and everything works excellently, but the battery keeps having the same issues it had the second that phone got the lovely 8.0 update.
So my questions are: is it even remotely correct to assume the update caused physical damage to the battery? Or -even if I completely reinstalled a totally different Android version- there is still some part of the phone that contains an unmodifiable chunk of software that is corruptedly managing the battery information, therefore making buying a new battery irrelevant?
I'm asking this because I decided to believe in the first question as a yes and was about to proceed to buy a new battery AND a new glue to place the screen again back to where it is, but decided to make this thread to maybe avoid buying things that could've been unnecesary. Thanks in advance.
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I can confirm new battery will solve the problem. I had tried everything before I ordered an original battery pack (made by Lg and my phone has juice for more than a day now. (a half before)
I think fast/turbo charging also kill the battery, so now I use a 1,5/2A charger
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Could you please post a link about the battery pack kit that you said? Is there any different to a Motorola's one (capacity, dimensions etc) ? Thank you.
To our dear friend, I suggest you replace the battery. You are not alone to that issue. It's worth buying new battery. Check this thread : https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-z/how-to/defective-battery-lots-moto-zhigh-t3781335
this one: https://www.ebay.com/itm/ORIGINAL-M...e=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649
the same GV30 was in the device (2680maH). There are a lot of non oem batteries btw
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Could you please post a link about the battery pack kit that you said? Is there any different to a Motorola's one (capacity, dimensions etc) ? Thank you.
To our dear friend, I suggest you replace the battery. You are not alone to that issue. It's worth buying new battery. Check this thread : https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-z/how-to/defective-battery-lots-moto-zhigh-t3781335
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this one: https://www.ebay.com/itm/ORIGINAL-M...e=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649
the same GV30 was in the device (2680maH). There are a lot of non oem batteries btw
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Thank you for the quick response. I've noticed that there are many after-market batteries which have larger dimensions than the original. Do you think by just changing the battery to a new one, will solve the problem? I mean it was just effective batteries?
I think the best to replace to the original GV30. It solved the battery problem of my phone right after changing it and I'm not alone with it I guess. I had tried everything before (calibration, doze apps, etc). Nothing works if the cells of the battery are dead. It's a hardware issue
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Thank you for the quick response. I've noticed that there are many after-market batteries which have larger dimensions than the original. Do you think by just changing the battery to a new one, will solve the problem? I mean it was just effective batteries?
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I think the best to replace to the original GV30. It solved the battery problem of my phone right after changing it and I'm not alone with it I guess. I had tried everything before (calibration, doze apps, etc). Nothing works if the cells of the battery are dead. It's a hardware issue
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Yeap! This is the conclusion, bad cells in the battery. I also believe the problem enhanced by the turbo charger, as you said... :/ But, how to prove it... (?)
Prove? I can prove in a year
Just think about it. It's simple physics, faster thermal expansion kills cells. That's why they're said not to let discharged fully. Or whatever
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Yeap! This is the conclusion, bad cells in the battery. I also believe the problem enhanced by the turbo charger, as you said... :/ But, how to prove it... (?)
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Hi there,
did anyone tried https://www.aliexpress.com/item/LOS...-01-XT1650-03-XT1650-05-GV40/32842305696.html battery?
Thanks!
moemos said:
Hi there,
did anyone tried https://www.aliexpress.com/item/LOS...-01-XT1650-03-XT1650-05-GV40/32842305696.html battery?
Thanks!
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Look, many customers have tried these extended batteries but noone can prove that this myth works! On the other hand, many videos and comments have uploaded on the internet and people have shared their experience: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hRdg75PAMw
I believe that it's impossible to extend a battery capacity while the space inside the phone is very specific.
A project, though, is in progress by a member of XDA who is trying to replace GV30 to GV40 battery: https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-z/help/replace-gv30-gv40-t3896369
You'll want a battery that's SMALLER capacity than the oem. The issue is that lithium ion batteries hate being thinned out so trying to put the 2600maH OEM battery inside this chassis is a recipe for disaster. I believe the iFixit battery is around 2400maH.
I think we'd be fine with shorter life than stock. What many are missing is consistent battery life. It's one thing to get 2hours SOT, it's another to be at 80% and have it shutdown.
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You'll want a battery that's SMALLER capacity than the oem. The issue is that lithium ion batteries hate being thinned out so trying to put the 2600maH OEM battery inside this chassis is a recipe for disaster. I believe the iFixit battery is around 2400maH.
I think we'd be fine with shorter life than stock. What many are missing is consistent battery life. It's one thing to get 2hours SOT, it's another to be at 80% and have it shutdown.
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It's appropriate to give us a link about these batteries.
I did change the motherboard and the battery to a new one gv30 and I get 3-4 SOT. What's your opinion about gv40 inside moto z?
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It's appropriate to give us a link about these batteries.
I did change the motherboard and the battery to a new one gv30 and I get 3-4 SOT. What's your opinion about gv40 inside moto z?
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Don't do it. The screen will bulge out. There is essentially 0 give inside the Moto Z chassis. If you're fine seeing into the phone, then it'll work for you. However, I'd probably opt for the iFixit kit. It's an official Moto solution, and while it might have the same problem it won't introduce a worse problem.
May batteries you find online will say "OEM" but they are often rebrands. And even if they're just 0.1mm thicker, the screen won't adhere. A proper phone replace shop ordered me a replacement battery and it was too thick. This was a year ago, and I eventually just replaced it with a $300 new Moto Z from Amazon (I had broken my screen replacing the battery myself).
I don't know the links persay, but I see there's this one from SWARK https://www.amazon.com/Replacement-Compatible-XT1650-03-XT1650-05-XT1650-01/dp/B07GQWHLH1
I haven't tried that one myself, but I'd be curious to see the thickness.
Just replacing my moto z battery with cheap (fake?) gv30 that i buy for only around $7 in my local (Indonesia) marketplace
Please look the attached picture for its (peak) performance, and this how i got those number:
- charge to 91% with 5v/1.2A charger (ASUS charger)
- watching movie for 3 hours with airplane mode and bluetooth earphone on
- sleeping with airplane mode on
- using my phone normally with wifi on and data off until the battery reach 3%
Thank you all for your answers and sharing your experiences.
Unfortunately, after buying all I needed from the USA (battery pack and 2 B7000 glue blisters shipped to Argentina) I proceeded to attempt to fix the phone. While heating up the screen to remove it, I burned all of the LCD corners and completely ruined the screen. I don't know what did I do so differently from all of the technicians in videotutorials where thay apply the exact same or even more heat on the screen and still left it intact, but there's nothing that can be done about it except buying a new screen replacement, but since we didn't want to spend much money on this phone, we just discarded it. Such a shame and disgraceful event, it still bugs me out.
Hey everyone,
I've finally decided to actively look for ways to extend my battery life, kinda fed up of the poor SoT and overnight drain.
I know there are other ROMs I can try that will improve the battery life, as well as other tips like disabling ok Google, but I was thinking more on the hardware level.
Has anyone looked for/replaced the battery on their Mi 9? I found a battery on AliExpress claiming to have the same form factor as the OEM while boasting 4650mAh
I'm incredibly sceptical of this but nevertheless, there's a small part of me itching to get it hoping it will add significant life to the device.
Any thoughts or reviews?
All those batterys are fake
Fake capacity
If it was possible to make a battery with same size of the original battery but with higher capacity why all oems doesnt make this type of batteries ?
I see iphone 5s with 4500mah capacity in the same size
That's exactly what I thought as well, but I'm not very familiar with how batteries are made etc, so I'm not sure if another company that dedicates themselves to making just batteries, later figured how to make bigger capacity in the same size.
But I tend to lean more on your same line of thought, which is why I wanted to know if anyone here had some first hand experience with these kind of claims.
Is there any good replacement batteries with the same capacity as the original one?
Does the Mi 9 Pro battery fit?
eBay has 4700 mAh extended battery cases for 29.99
Replacement of 4000mah battery for my mi9
I replaced of 4000mah battery for my mi9 recently and I'm satisfied with its performance.
-active drain ~ 12.1%
-static drain ~ 0.4%
Most of my activity is using LTE network to look at news.
The brand name of 4000mah battery is MARWAY.
Kris
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I replaced of 4000mah battery for my mi9 recently and I'm satisfied with its performance.
-active drain ~ 12.1%
-static drain ~ 0.4%
Most of my activity is using LTE network to look at news.
The brand name of 4000mah battery is MARWAY.
Kris
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It actually fits? Where did you get it?
Where did you buy it and can you give some me details of the battery? I'm really searching for a 4000mah battery for Europe (Germany) but i only saw fakes.
Yes and it does !
I get it from taiwan shopee ~ (https://shopee.tw/product/44600106/4819487274)
Kris
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It actually fits? Where did you get it?
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Kris Chen said:
I replaced of 4000mah battery for my mi9 recently and I'm satisfied with its performance.
-active drain ~ 12.1%
-static drain ~ 0.4%
Most of my activity is using LTE network to look at news.
The brand name of 4000mah battery is MARWAY.
Kris
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Are they sending to Europe ?
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Are they sending to Europe ?
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hi everyone, has anyone managed to find a replacement battery or a way to improve it?
Anyone know of any US sources for a replacement battery? I'm kind of in a pickle here. My case developed a crack in it several months ago. It was just a minor cosmetic thing so it hadn't bugged me too much. Lately every time I grab my phone I hear it creaking so I decided to look for an exact replacement case. The original store I bought mine from is listed as out of stock and searching for the part number elsewhere came up with 3 stores, all out of stock. Doing searches on ebay/amazon/ailibabba didn't come up with anything. I decided to just go ahead and get my phone out of this case and stick it into the stock TPU case. Anyway, I pop open the metal frame and the glass back literally flies off. I'm shocked to see the back of my phone now 90% popped outward. Looking from the side it's becuase the battery is one giant swollen blob! Everything is working fine, I had zero clue there was anything wrong until I tried taking it out of my case now I'm kind of on a desperate hunt for a replacement battery. I don't even know how I'm going to hold my phone together beyond attempting to cram it back into my metal/glassback case.
Edit: I ended up getting a replacement battery from iFixIt and using their replacement guide. Note, their guide is for the non-transparent edition. For the transparent edition, they use P2 pentalobe(0.8mm star) screws rather than phillips #00.
after EDL and its story everything is ok except there is no fast charging available and the phone charged normaly.
the original adaptor also rattles something in it maybe it is normal. MIUI 12 12.0.2
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Anyone know of any US sources for a replacement battery? I'm kind of in a pickle here. My case developed a crack in it several months ago. It was just a minor cosmetic thing so it hadn't bugged me too much. Lately every time I grab my phone I hear it creaking so I decided to look for an exact replacement case. The original store I bought mine from is listed as out of stock and searching for the part number elsewhere came up with 3 stores, all out of stock. Doing searches on ebay/amazon/ailibabba didn't come up with anything. I decided to just go ahead and get my phone out of this case and stick it into the stock TPU case. Anyway, I pop open the metal frame and the glass back literally flies off. I'm shocked to see the back of my phone now 90% popped outward. Looking from the side it's becuase the battery is one giant swollen blob! Everything is working fine, I had zero clue there was anything wrong until I tried taking it out of my case now I'm kind of on a desperate hunt for a replacement battery. I don't even know how I'm going to hold my phone together beyond attempting to cram it back into my metal/glassback case.
Edit: I ended up getting a replacement battery from iFixIt and using their replacement guide. Note, their guide is for the non-transparent edition. For the transparent edition, they use P2 pentalobe(0.8mm star) screws rather than phillips #00.
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I just ordered a replacement battery from ifixit as well. How is the battery? Are you noticing a difference from the stock battery?
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I just ordered a replacement battery from ifixit as well. How is the battery? Are you noticing a difference from the stock battery?
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Unfortunately it's way too soon for me to tell. I'm not sure I did battery calibration correctly because I replaced the battery last Wednesday, slow charged it to 100% on my slowest charger and let it continue on the slow charger for 2 hours, then unplugged it and continued to use it until it was so drained it couldn't turn on again(which to my surprise wasn't until Sunday evening). Then plugged in to that same slow charger without turning on the phone overnight. So I'm only a little over 2 days with the new battery. My SoT doesn't seem to be as good(my battery was at 65% this morning when I'm used to seeing low 70s-80s), but I might need to look back up how to do the battery calibration.
One note though, for some reason I had some difficulty getting the loud speaker realigned correctly. The connecting pins just didn't want to sit right. It took me three times taking it back apart until it worked properly. Might just be my phone but I'd be real careful with the alignment and do the whole "tightening a car tire" style turn each screw a little bit to make sure it seats flat. Again, it might just be a mfg defect with my particular phone as I didn't see anything online with anyone else having a similar problem.
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Unfortunately it's way too soon for me to tell. I'm not sure I did battery calibration correctly because I replaced the battery last Wednesday, slow charged it to 100% on my slowest charger and let it continue on the slow charger for 2 hours, then unplugged it and continued to use it until it was so drained it couldn't turn on again(which to my surprise wasn't until Sunday evening). Then plugged in to that same slow charger without turning on the phone overnight. So I'm only a little over 2 days with the new battery. My SoT doesn't seem to be as good(my battery was at 65% this morning when I'm used to seeing low 70s-80s), but I might need to look back up how to do the battery calibration.
One note though, for some reason I had some difficulty getting the loud speaker realigned correctly. The connecting pins just didn't want to sit right. It took me three times taking it back apart until it worked properly. Might just be my phone but I'd be real careful with the alignment and do the whole "tightening a car tire" style turn each screw a little bit to make sure it seats flat. Again, it might just be a mfg defect with my particular phone as I didn't see anything online with anyone else having a similar problem.
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Any update on the new battery? I got mine in, but debating if it will be worth it to change it or not. I appreciate the tips on replacing it.
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Any update on the new battery? I got mine in, but debating if it will be worth it to change it or not. I appreciate the tips on replacing it.
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If you are asking if I'm having a longer SoT, no. I'm not. I'm also using xiaomi.eu weekly which means I'm very used to inconsistent SoT as each week things change.
I have a transparent edition, which means rather than the phillips #00 screws you see in replacement guides I had 0.8mm star screws(P2 pentalobe).
The issue with my previous battery was it had ballooned to more than three times it's regular thickness which caused my back cover to pop off. So I don't have any advice on how to get the back off as mine had already fallen off. The funny bit is that I didn't replace the tape because I wanted to wait a few days to make sure everything was okay. My case ended up pressing the back cover tightly enough against the back that it ended up regluing itself when I took it out of the case to start retaping.
I had several issues with reassembly. My giant hands took quite awhile to get the antenna wire back on and since the replacement battery cable is a little longer than the original it took some wiggling until I was able to get the plug to be lined up to lock in. After I put it back together I tested everything and discovered the loudspeaker wasn't working. You need to screw it down like you are putting a tire on a car. Don't tighten each screw individually but go around to each one so when it's going down it's going down flat so the connection is straight(similar issue to the battery cable, if it's not exactly parallel, it doesn't connect).
I ended up doing a battery replacement. I got an original (at least it sure looks like it) and a new back cover to replace my scratched one. The install was easy, and I'm actually getting better life than the old one. Not dramatically better, but still a slight improvement.
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I ended up doing a battery replacement. I got an original (at least it sure looks like it) and a new back cover to replace my scratched one. The install was easy, and I'm actually getting better life than the old one. Not dramatically better, but still a slight improvement.
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Do you mind giving the link for both?