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I tried to charge my TG01 with a solar charger but nothing happen...
I think TG01 micro USB cable is "protected" like iPhone cable.
Take a look here (translated).
Anyone can help me?
No one try to charge the phone with another charger?
nunzio89 said:
I tried to charge my TG01 with a solar charger but nothing happen...
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Same to me, even solar charger works good with Mega/touch2...
Yes unfortunately the TG01 has a kind of "intelligent" usb connector (more "stupid" than "intelligent" IMHO, but...) and it thinks that your solar charger is just a USB device.....
There is a trick , but a bit strong: You can solder (short circuit ) the data pins on the USB connector. You can use a USB adaptor to avoid danage your charger.
You can find it here:
http://www.modaco.com/content/toshiba-tg01-tg01-modaco-com/290754/car-charger-problem-and-solution/
Modaco remains today a bit stopped (It seems as if the activity has been moved to Xda-developers) but I strongly recommend to ll new TG01 users, who only know Xda... to search there.
On Modaco We all together solved a lot of problems a year ago, at the beginning of the TG01. (by the way, mi nick there is Xdalover )
I hope this can help you. Best Regards
Pere said:
Yes unfortunately the TG01 has a kind of "intelligent" usb connector (more "stupid" than "intelligent" IMHO, but...) and it thinks that your solar charger is just a USB device.....
There is a trick , but a bit strong: You can solder (short circuit ) the data pins on the USB connector. You can use a USB adaptor to avoid danage your charger.
You can find it here:
http://www.modaco.com/content/toshiba-tg01-tg01-modaco-com/290754/car-charger-problem-and-solution/
Modaco remains today a bit stopped (It seems as if the activity has been moved to Xda-developers) but I strongly recommend to ll new TG01 users, who only know Xda... to search there.
On Modaco We all together solved a lot of problems a year ago, at the beginning of the TG01. (by the way, mi nick there is Xdalover )
I hope this can help you. Best Regards
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Thank you very much!
nunzio89 said:
I tried to charge my TG01 with a solar charger but nothing happen...
I think TG01 micro USB cable is "protected" like iPhone cable.
Take a look here (translated).
Anyone can help me?
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The uUSB connector is 'intelligent' - fully under software control. I put some information on this on Brighthand some time back which you may find helpful.
Also a post here on XDA and I am sure there are some others related.
Basically you need to have a uUSB B type plug on the end of your charger.
the charger from my hd2 works fine & so does my car charger - i didn't realize this was lucky !!!!!!!!
Weirder: my solar charger worked fine with my first TG; after reading the post, I tried with the replacement TG: first battery light turned red, screen said it was charging, battery level was climbing; of course, after normal time, screen turned to sleep; some minutes later, lighted again without understandable reason, the battery was not charging anymore, and had fallen back to previous level. (no charging again after taking micro usb connection out and in, or soft resetting TG)
nunzio89 said:
I tried to charge my TG01 with a solar charger but nothing happen...
I think TG01 micro USB cable is "protected" like iPhone cable.
Take a look here (translated).
Anyone can help me?
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there is also the problem that a lot of solar chargers do not output what they claim to,so probably not enough amp's to charge tg01.
i have solar charger that will happily charge my tytn 2,but just lights up charge light on tg01 and mates samsung hd but does nothing else ..
i found a basic soloution - i have a usb battery pack from ebay and a usb nokia charger(cheap one) and the old charger tonew charger adapter for a nokia n900. it haa te old nokia charger on on end and micro usb on the other. managed to fully charge my tg01! hope it helps
nokia uUSB (5800, n97) cable works and charges too from comp
tg01 charger. nokia part no as above ca-148c.
jas
Hello,
I use IGO car charger with A97 tip. works perfect chargers quicker than mains charger. Was it a uniross solar charger you are using?
I have been using a Palm Treo Pro charger for months now.
TG01 dead shortin 2-3 pins on car charger
Someone can help me?
I'm not a beautiful girl...i tink my TG01 is dead after a short circuit of a car charger, the USB pins i shorted were the 2-3, i found that was possible use the trick for some chargers.
The phone do not bootup or power-on,i thik the charging circuit burned..
I want open the phone or do someting, like changing MB or repair the circuit.
Another question, the size of the screwdriver trigram is the same that i can find on ebay?
Thanks to all
My solution
I've just made usb male to female adapter with data pins short-circuited at phone side:
WARNING: be careful, use right polarity
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this is not final version. Later i've bended short-circuited pins (in middle) and removed adhesive tape, but there is no other photos.
and filled it with liquid polyethylene for armoring:
Now i can charge my TG01 using any usb charger.
Adapter with my philips portable charger:
!UPDATE!
Starting a Barrel Charger keyboard Dock MOD Thread. If you want yours done for free I'm looking for a volunteer to send me a keyboard dock to modify with standard barrel charging adapter. Stay tuned for the tread link
Covering 3 popular charging topics
1. Why you can't use a USB 2.0 extension cable with the factory charger
2. Testing data proving the Tablet needs 11V or higher to chartge
3. Off the shelf parts and spare parts to make a Wall charger
4. Off the shelf parts and spare parts to make a Car Charger
1.Why you can't use a USB 2.0 with the factory charger
Because the charger is looking for termination of Pin 7 from the Tablet to start sending 15 Volts. Pin 7 is a USB 3 pin, not available in usb 2.0 so the charger never sees termination and continues to send 5V. This is why if you connect your phone or other 5V usb device to the charger it will charge at 5V.
The only way to trick the charger into always sending 15V so that you can use a 2.0 extension cable is to take it apart and bridge ground with pin 7. But you will not be able to use the charger for any other device, not worth it IMO.
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Here you can see that pins 5-9 are USB 3.0 only.
2. Testing Data
-The Tablet looks for more than 11V to start charging
-With a source other than from the ASUS charger I supplied pins 1 (RED HOT)and 2 (Black Ground) with 13.5 volts and it charges. My source was a 12V AC to DC power supply I use for testing DC devices.
-My power source was pushing 1.5 Amps during the charge
-All other pins were disconnected on the USB extension.
Its all about voltage. Any AC to DC adapter that supplies at least 11 Volts that has a female usb adapter with ground to pin 1 (RED HOT)and 2 (Black Ground)
CONFIRMED: I Connected my 13 V source to pins 1 and 4 on a USB 2.0 extension cable and it worked.
The Asus charger does need a 3.0 cable extension to work. But with a DIY charger you don't need USB 3.0 cables or connectors.
WARNING! Please know your technical limits and understand that any instructions you follow in this thread are at your own risk.
DIY ADAPTERS
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Wall charging - Any Voltage selectable DC wall adapter that supports at least 11 Volts 1 Amp will work. You will need to add a female DC barrel to USB Female cable which are available cheap or can be made which I will post pics.
Off the shelf Parts $13.99 Total
!IMPORTANT! PLEASE BE AWARE OF POLARITY WHEN USING THESE UNIVERSAL ADAPTERS. YOU WILL DAMAGE YOUR TABLET IF THE POLARITY IS WRONG.
Check this SITE for information on setting up the tips for the correct polarity.
I check polarity every time I connect and disconnect my tablet when testing. If you have basic voltage meter and one USB cable you can sacrifice I suggest you test the polarity by creating a test cable. Cut the cable, expose the bare wire on red and black then test with your meter while connected to your generic charger. If your meter shows a "-" while showing the voltage your polarity is WRONG. If it doesn't show a "-" or in some cases a "+" your polarity is right.
Adjustable Voltage DC wall charger -EBAY $11 shipped.
UK Equivalent
Generic AC/DC Adapter Up to 12V and 1500Amps
5.5mm DC Female Barrel to USB Female cable - EBAY $2.99 Shipped EBAY UK LINK
EBAY UK LINK
Plug the adapter cable into the 5.5 connector on the DC adapter, set it to 12V , connect the factory Asus cable to the adapter cable and you are charging. Your 3.0 extension cable will work with this as well as any 2.0 extension cable. I'm waiting for the adapter cable and will post pics of the components connected together.
Or you can get an adjustable charger that comes with a USB Female adapter like this one
Building with spare parts
I'll be taking a 12 or 14 volt DC adapter I have and wiring a USB end directly to it. If you are a gadget person you might just have some spare DC adapters. Pictures soon. I'll also be making a version that includes the adapter cable from above.
Charging in the Car - Any Voltage selectable Car DC adapter that supports at least 11 Volts 1 Amp will work. You will need to add a female DC barrel to USB Female cable which are available cheap or can be made which I will post pics. You will be able to use the same adapter cable as above, you just need the car adapter
Off the shelf Parts $10.98 Total
Auto DC adapter Adjustable starting at 15V - EBAY $7.99 Shipped
5.5mm DC Female Barrel to USB Female cable - EBAY $2.99 Shipped
Plug the adapter cable into the 5.5 connector on the DC car adapter, set it to 12-15V , connect the factory Asus cable to the adapter cable and you are charging. Your 3.0 extension cable will work with this as well as any 2.0 extension cable. I'm waiting for the adapter cable and will post pics of the components connected together.
Multi function Car & Wall charger,
This is interesting, it has input for AC and DC so you can use it in the Car and at home.
Generic adjustable Car and Wall charger
For charging on a PC. - Not possible, There is no way to double the voltage from one power supply, connecting 2 cables together will not increase volts only AMPS.
OTHER KNOWN CHARGERS THAT WORK
Dynex DX-UA - Universal laptop/camera charger. $29
Radio Shack 12V adapter Comes with a free USB tip $30
X1 PST-1200UF NOTE: Even though this one comes with a USB tip you still Need to add the USB adapter cable because the manufacturer limits 5V to that one USB tip in the package.
UNTESTED BUT SHOULD WORK
PowerLine 90304 Need to add USB adapter cable
Generic adjustable Car and Wall charger Need to add USB adapter cable
My mess of a test bench =]
~DC
Just updated the OP and man this is frustrating, the charger is very sensitive.
try to get a scope, it is possible that the charge controller is in the tf while the charge circuitry is in the charger. the two middle pins might be control signals which would explain why touching them stops the charger. the lack of signals on the middle pins may explain why when using the dynex charger you lose the battery meter.
Rumbleweed said:
try to get a scope, it is possible that the charge controller is in the tf while the charge circuitry is in the charger. the two middle pins might be control signals which would explain why touching them stops the charger. the lack of signals on the middle pins may explain why when using the dynex charger you lose the battery meter.
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DONE
It's voltage people, all voltage. No fancy communicating with the charger. Right now I have a DC power supply use for powering DV voltage devices connected directly to pins 1 and 4 supplying it with 13.8 Volts and it is charging. All other pins are disconnected. This is why the Dynex works, because it is 11 V.
Back to the OP with a follow up.
Something is still missing. If only pins 1 and 4 are used by the charger, then a usb 2.0 cable with four pin/conductors should work as an extension, but it doesn't.
would something like this work to charge from 2 usb ports?
http://www.amazon.com/Apricorn-Power-Adapter-Cable-AUSB-Y/dp/B000JIOHDE/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1306378019&sr=8-1
Rumbleweed said:
Something is still missing. If only pins 1 and 4 are used by the charger, then a usb 2.0 cable with four pin/conductors should work as an extension, but it doesn't.
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True but my goal is to come up with more charging options. I've been charging my tablet for about 45 mins now, voltage and amps have been steady, 13.8 and 1.6.
skchan2 said:
would something like this work to charge from 2 usb ports?
http://www.amazon.com/Apricorn-Power-Adapter-Cable-AUSB-Y/dp/B000JIOHDE/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1306378019&sr=8-1
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Possibly, I'm testing the 10V theory now.
skchan2 said:
would something like this work to charge from 2 usb ports?
http://www.amazon.com/Apricorn-Power-Adapter-Cable-AUSB-Y/dp/B000JIOHDE/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1306378019&sr=8-1
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Scratch the hole 2 USB connectios theory, you cant combine 2 voltage from one power source in series. But i'm looking into what those dual cables actually do.
Someone should disassemble there Asus charger, i couldn't figure out how to pry it open, so i gave up before i broke the plastic shell
Someone needs to get an oscilloscope going on the cable , there has got to be a reason Asus chose USB 3.0 connectors, which i think it is for some accessories down the road, who knows
SlimDan22 said:
Someone should disassemble there Asus charger, i couldn't figure out how to pry it open, so i gave up before i broke the plastic shell
Someone needs to get an oscilloscope going on the cable , there has got to be a reason Asus chose USB 3.0 connectors, which i think it is for some accessories down the road, who knows
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Not going to argue with you on that one. The dynex is working for people and so is my rig.
skchan2 said:
would something like this work to charge from 2 usb ports?
http://www.amazon.com/Apricorn-Power-Adapter-Cable-AUSB-Y/dp/B000JIOHDE/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1306378019&sr=8-1
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That's not going to work because those cables are all in parallel, they increase the Amps not the voltage. The only way to increase the voltage is through series and you have 2 seperate power sources.
DevCake said:
That's not going to work because those cables are all in parallel, they increase the Amps not the voltage. The only way to increase the voltage is through series and you have 2 seperate power sources.
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lol reading that made me feel like i was back in circuits I
Updated OP with parts needed to make a wall and car charger for under $14. Posting pics of custom versions made with spare parts.
DevCake said:
Updated OP with parts needed to make a wall and car charger for under $14. Posting pics of custom versions made with spare parts.
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Thank you for this, awesome job. Its still a joke asus does have a supported one. I guess ill trade that for the fact the 3.1 update will be timely. These force closes are killing me!
unable to find
Hi Devcake
Icant seem to find the USB /power lead could you give another link please. I am in the UK.
Many thanks for your article just what was needed.
Carl
Ebay item #270571233814 is the 5.5 to USB adapter
UK_Computing_CablesConnectors_RL&hash=item20b735a891
Thanks for that, but not available for the UK. Will try on the UK site.
Many thanks
Carl
Nice guide. Added to ultimate thread. Have posted a warning too, as I can see people burning their houses down trying this out with no technical knowledge.
Once you receive the items and can confirm that this works, can you post the links to the items on ebay? Thanks a ton!
I know we've already had threads about this before, but seeing as how no one ever had a solution to this issue i thought i'd check back in again and see.
overview: the problem when you use a USB car charger dongle, like this one:
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is that it will register as "charging USB" and will charge much much slower then if it was doing it via "charging AC".
I know that if you open one of those things up and short out the 2 data connectors that will resolve the issue... but does anyone know of any of these that are already setup & ready to go to allow the "charging AC" mode and charge our phones normally?
I have this Belkin USB car charger and it not only registers and charges as A/C it keeps up with using nav and listening to books in the car.
Belkin
And I also have this one that does the same
iPhone Universal
Can someone show me a screenshot of the "charging USB" and "charging AC" indicators? The RZD is my second HTC phone and I've read mentions of these two different states of charging, but I've never noticed any indicator that I was getting anything other than an "AC" charge. That said, the OEM HTC car chargers supposedly supply a full 1A because the D+ and D- pins are shorted. I have one on the way and when I get it in a few days, I will report on my findings. Assuming that I can tell which mode my phone is charging in when I connect it.
Apsalus said:
Can someone show me a screenshot of the "charging USB" and "charging AC" indicators? The RZD is my second HTC phone and I've read mentions of these two different states of charging, but I've never noticed any indicator that I was getting anything other than an "AC" charge. That said, the OEM HTC car chargers supposedly supply a full 1A because the D+ and D- pins are shorted. I have one on the way and when I get it in a few days, I will report on my findings. Assuming that I can tell which mode my phone is charging in when I connect it.
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No time to upload screenshots right now but if you go into Settings > About Phone > Battery and right at the top it will say
Not Charging
Charging A/C
Charging USB
Depending on what you are doing and how it is hooked up.
This is an easy fix and it should work on most chargers that have this problem.
I had this problem with the Griffin PowerJolt Dual Universal Micro that I bought for my TouchPro2. To fix it all you have to do is open up the housing (make sure you don't lose any parts, some are under tension and have the tendency to fly away) and solder together the two middle solder points on the usb connector. I have attached an image of what you should look for.Just make sure you do not accidentally solder to either pin 1 or 4 as they are the +V and -V. Once you solder the middle pins together you should be able to reassemble the charger and you phone should see it as an ac charger and will be able to charge faster. Let me know if this works for you.
icy1899 said:
This is an easy fix and it should work on most chargers that have this problem.
I had this problem with the Griffin PowerJolt Dual Universal Micro that I bought for my TouchPro2. To fix it all you have to do is open up the housing (make sure you don't lose any parts, some are under tension and have the tendency to fly away) and solder together the two middle solder points on the usb connector. I have attached an image of what you should look for.Just make sure you do not accidentally solder to either pin 1 or 4 as they are the +V and -V. Once you solder the middle pins together you should be able to reassemble the charger and you phone should see it as an ac charger and will be able to charge faster. Let me know if this works for you.
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i'll have to get another dongle and try that. what i did try was cutting open a micro USB cable and disconnecting the green & white cables(data), putting it back together and trying it out but then it still said "charging USB" and didn't seem to make a difference.
NilsP said:
I have this Belkin USB car charger and it not only registers and charges as A/C it keeps up with using nav and listening to books in the car.
Belkin
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There are a lot of reviews from the above that say it still charges via USB only and not A/C. Seems hit or miss.
It may depend on how much power the charger supplies. Some may not give a full 1A and some dual charger may only give .5A per port.
voxigenboy said:
i'll have to get another dongle and try that. what i did try was cutting open a micro USB cable and disconnecting the green & white cables(data), putting it back together and trying it out but then it still said "charging USB" and didn't seem to make a difference.
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You have to short them, so hook them together!
NilsP said:
I have this Belkin USB car charger and it not only registers and charges as A/C it keeps up with using nav and listening to books in the car.
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What do you mean by keeps up with nav and listening to books?
I'm hoping I can navigate my phone's mp3s using my car stereo. I tried plugging it into the car's usb port that works for my ipod but it didn't read anything when I went to the usb tab on my car's screen.
I've ordered that Belkin charger based on your suggestion in the audio thread but haven't received it yet. Hoping that's what you're talking about and that I'll be able to see my mp3 library on my car's screen. Of course I suppose it depends on the audio system or car. I have a Gen 3 Prius with stock stereo that came with the navigation.
feralicious said:
What do you mean by keeps up with nav and listening to books?
I'm hoping I can navigate my phone's mp3s using my car stereo. I tried plugging it into the car's usb port that works for my ipod but it didn't read anything when I went to the usb tab on my car's screen.
I've ordered that Belkin charger based on your suggestion in the audio thread but haven't received it yet. Hoping that's what you're talking about and that I'll be able to see my mp3 library on my car's screen. Of course I suppose it depends on the audio system or car. I have a Gen 3 Prius with stock stereo that came with the navigation.
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The charger is just for charging. Once you plug your usb cable into it you will not be connected to the stereo.
I use the charger for charging, the BT for the phone to car stereo, and the aux jack for listening to Audible books in the car. The nav I was refering to is the Google Maps for GPS navigation which outputs sound over my aux connection.
NilsP said:
The charger is just for charging. Once you plug your usb cable into it you will not be connected to the stereo.
I use the charger for charging, the BT for the phone to car stereo, and the aux jack for listening to Audible books in the car. The nav I was refering to is the Google Maps for GPS navigation which outputs sound over my aux connection.
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Okay, thanks. Doesn't look like I'll be seeing my phone's mp3 library on my car's navi screen.
I forgot to update this thread. I got the HTC CC C300 dual port charger and it does provide the juice for AC charging. Cruising down the road, it was pushing a little under 850mAh into my near-dead battery. The model number is 99H10128-00.
If you can live with only one port, the single port HTC charger does AC charging as well. The cheapest that I've seen it is here, as a "T-Mobile myTouch" branded unit. http://www.amazon.com/HTC-T-Mobile-...UTF8&coliid=I3F2IGEKMH21XF&colid=CYR5AB72ZMIK
NilsP said:
I have this Belkin USB car charger and it not only registers and charges as A/C it keeps up with using nav and listening to books in the car.
Belkin
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FYI, I bought this on your recommendation and it DOES NOT charge in AC mode with the Galaxy Nexus LTE.
UPDATE. I think I found the problem. There must be a variation in actual vehicle DC outlets. The Belkin and myTouch chargers mentioned in this thread both charge in AC mode in my wife's VW. They do not in my Ford F150. So basically its a crap shoot Good luck.
???
I am surprised no one has simply pointed out that a power inverter will do the job. They are perpetually at $15-$20 on NewEgg. It will give you an A/C plug, which you can then use to charge your phone at 1A.
jdmba said:
I am surprised no one has simply pointed out that a power inverter will do the job. They are perpetually at $15-$20 on NewEgg. It will give you an A/C plug, which you can then use to charge your phone at 1A.
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yeah but its ugly and bulky
Welp
couchmonkey said:
yeah but its ugly and bulky
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It don't gotta sit on your lap
In reality, it is the only solution to the OP's question, as it is unlikely that any of the car chargers will put out 1A. Again, was just surprised no one offered the only solution, aesthetics aside.
Hohlraum said:
FYI, I bought this on your recommendation and it DOES NOT charge in AC mode with the Galaxy Nexus LTE.
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Not sure if your post is meant to inform or complain, but his rec was posted in the Rezound accessories forum and that's the phone he confirmed it working on.
I just checked it on my Rezound in my Prius and it DOES charge in AC mode, so thanks Nils!
jdmba said:
In reality, it is the only solution to the OP's question, as it is unlikely that any of the car chargers will put out 1A.
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The AC charger included with the RZD and both of the car chargers that I posted push ~980mAh to my phone. Is a full 1A even possible?
An easier fix is to flash incredikernel and use the usb fast charge option.
Is there a difference between a charging cord for the EVO and a standard USB data cable for our phones? I thought I remember reading a thread about the charging cable being different so charging faster.
The reason I ask is I need a 15ft USB charging cable for my EVO.
It's all based on the power drawing from the source. I don't think the cable makes a difference.
As a general rule, USB charges slower than AC.
I can tell that there is a difference!
I used normal USB cable from my other mobilephone (xperia x8, and Nokia 5230) and my HTC Evo 3D didnt recharging, he was showing that he is recharging but no... recharg was so slow that he wasnt able to recharg battery. After couple of hours from 20% it went to 18% of battery
Akasa Fox said:
It's all based on the power drawing from the source. I don't think the cable makes a difference.
As a general rule, USB charges slower than AC.
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I understand that trying to charge off the computer will be slower. But what I was asking is the cord which you plug in to the USB wall adapter (that comes with the phone) different from your average micro-usb cord. Because at the end of the day, the cord we get from the factory to charge is a micro-usb cord.
But I think I read somewhere that there is a difference in the pins or something that identify as a charging cable instead of a data cable allowing more power to pass through.
Not sure but my knowledge tells me that when u plug USB cable to poweradapter it just becomes regular charger and phone knows this by higher voltage coming to it...while USB plugged in to laptop or computer less voltage tells the phone and as well as the drivers from computer tells phone that's its USB cable link! Essentially cable is same but the.power adapter in front just converts USB to 2-pin regular power source!
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Boss2212 said:
Not sure but my knowledge tells me that when u plug USB cable to poweradapter it just becomes regular charger and phone knows this by higher voltage coming to it...while USB plugged in to laptop or computer less voltage tells the phone and as well as the drivers from computer tells phone that's its USB cable link! Essentially cable is same but the.power adapter in front just converts USB to 2-pin regular power source!
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I just did an experiment with my charger. I used the stock HTC charger that came with the phone. Plugged in my HTC provided cable, went to battery status, and it said "Charging (AC)".
I then tried another micro-USB cord I had laying around and again it said "Charging (AC)".
So my guess is the cord doesn't matter. What I'd like to see is if there is a difference in power that the cord is allowing to be pulled between the two. Anyone know an app for this?
Next I went and took the Griffin charger I bought for my iPad2. It is rated up to 2.1amps for output so it should be sufficient enough to charge our phones just like the stock charger. When I plugged it in using the stock HTC cable and the standard Micro-USB cable, both read: "Charging (USB)". Again, I wonder if there is a difference in power being drawn because it thinks it is USB.
The cord probably doesn't matter as long as it's a decent cord. I'm sure there's some POS cords that are not going to deliver much at all, but any USB cable I've bought from monoprice has charged just fine, and has done its full output either via a usb port or if I plug that cable into a usb->AC adapter.
RedWingsFan said:
What I'd like to see is if there is a difference in power that the cord is allowing to be pulled between the two. Anyone know an app for this?
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Elixer 2! Grab it from the market, select 'status bar' and set it up with battery current, which will then allow you to see your current drain (or charge) rate by pulling down your menu!
(lots of other great things in elixer! I urge everyone to check it out! It's totally replaced extended controls for me! Probably the best utility in android since TB!)
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The phone sets the charging rate based on if the data lines of the USB cable are active. If they are active, the charging rate is limited to the standard 500mA USB supply. If open, the phone goes into AC mode which allows up to 2A (2000mA) charging rate depending on the power supply.
I'm not entirely sure if MicroUSB is different than some of the other standards out there. But there are indeed some usb cables that are ''Data'' cables and do not charge. I have an old flip phone for my son and his usb data cable connects to the pc fine, we can transfer music to his microsd card etc. However it does not charge his phone at all.
I've used a couple of different cables and here's what I've noticed...
Some cables won't charge, but can be used for data.
Some will charge, but can't be used for data.
Some can charge, and be used for data.
I know that some that charge, but can't transmit data have the data wires missing for cheaper production. And this could be the same thing for those that can be used for data, but not charge.
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Can also change data cables into AC charging cables only, so that they will charge at 1000mA from a USB port and not 500 mA as normal. Means you can't use the cable as a data cable, but in a car charger that's not a problem, and often you want a quick charge from a USB port.
Basically the two data pins have to be shorted together--google it.
EDIT: See here-- http://pinouts.ru/Slots/USB_pinout.shtml -- basically the white and green wires need to be shorted together. I have done this and my phone now says Charging (AC) when using car charger or USB from PC.
basically you can have three types of usb port/cable as per 2007 Battery Charging Specification - regular data cable ("old" usb standard) that cand provide up to 100mA without negotiating with the hub, 500mA after negotiating; charging downstream ports that can provide up to 900mA plus data without needing to negotiate; dedicated charging ports that can provide up to 1.5a without data (Ive seen 2a chargers so I suppose this is covered too, in the official standard I cant find it)
Ir does matter. The original usb cable must have some extra or different pins, because when I use a generic one I'm not able to adb to the phone from the PC, I'm only able to adb with the original usb cable. Charging is fine.
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I can tell that there is a difference!
I used normal USB cable from my other mobilephone (xperia x8, and Nokia 5230) and my HTC Evo 3D didnt recharging, he was showing that he is recharging but no... recharg was so slow that he wasnt able to recharg battery. After couple of hours from 20% it went to 18% of battery
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ya dude i completly agree with u ...my htc wildfire s was also not charging if i used a normal data cabel instead of htc usb cable
I've seen a little chatter on the New Trent battery packs, but haven't seen this issue, so I wanted to see if I can figure out what's up.
I've had the IMP500 (5000mAh) for 3 or 4 months and really like it in general. Well, the little micro USB adapter has a little too much play and after 30 or so plug ins and outs it has a hard time maintaining a connection, to the point where it's almost unusable.
When I use the included wire, it shows up as AC charging. But, if I use a 'real' USB cable, it shows up as USB... which as we know can't provide a positive charge while using.
I know about the whole shorting of the 2/3 pins to force an AC charge, and I can see the mechanics that give me AC with the New Trent wire. But it would appear that I'm out of luck without getting a new one of those.
Anyone know of a USB wire that will force AC charging?
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Anyone know of a USB wire that will force AC charging?
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No, because any cable that shorts 2-3 isn't a USB cable, just as a charger that doesn't isn't a USB charger. They simply don't meet the specifications. If they're labeled "USB" anything, call the manufacturer and complain.
yes, a USB charging ONLY cable: available here:
http://www.amazon.com/Naztech-Micro...BCAY/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1331144352&sr=8-1
the reviews on there matchup to what we want... a usb format cable that is shorted for 'charging only' it won't work for data.
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yes, a USB charging ONLY cable: available here:
http://www.amazon.com/Naztech-Micro...BCAY/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1331144352&sr=8-1
the reviews on there matchup to what we want... a usb format cable that is shorted for 'charging only' it won't work for data.
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Amazing, thanks! I hunted amazon but didn't come up with that one. I'll have to try it out.
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yes, a USB charging ONLY cable: available here:
http://www.amazon.com/Naztech-Micro...BCAY/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1331144352&sr=8-1
the reviews on there matchup to what we want... a usb format cable that is shorted for 'charging only' it won't work for data.
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Got this today and it works like a charm. No more soldering together pins in old i-pod chargers for me. Thanks again for the lead.
just bought two of each of these, should get early next week:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/370592797323?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649
http://www.ebay.com/itm/170793148690?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649
hope these cure my car charging woes lol
One can buy chargers from reputable companies which follow the USB charging specification for under $10 (car or AC). Why mess with non-standard chargers and cables which are no cheaper, from bit players?
Back when I got my Dinc, I bought like 10 of these, they were actually on special for like $2.99 ea.. they are now close to $5 (amazon prime free shipping).
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http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001P05K9K
I bought the other day one of these the other day as I didn't have a Car charger...
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002TOKTHO
< $3.50 with free shipping (not amazon prime).
I had a meeting the other day and I ended up connecting my Rezound using one of the cables above with the charger above and got AC charging indication on the phone when it was charging.
Works great.
I also have 4-5 of these around the house ... Not phone related
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0037G2BMY
I use them when "family" comes over with their broken desktop computers and need me to "fix" them. Instead of stringing them to my office, I just plug one of these in and Wifi them so that I can work on them remote from my notebook. They are like $8 and work great.
Hello,
where to find this "Naztech Micro USB Charging Cable" for delivering in Belgium (europe). It's on amazon.com but delivery is only US and CANADA
Or do you know another cable wich deliver full power as with wall charger and original htc cable (about 850ma)
Thank you.
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yes, a USB charging ONLY cable: available here:
http://www.amazon.com/Naztech-Micro...BCAY/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1331144352&sr=8-1
the reviews on there matchup to what we want... a usb format cable that is shorted for 'charging only' it won't work for data.
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Also:
http://www.amazon.com/Charge-PureGe...1&sr=8-2&keywords=charge+only+micro+usb+cable
Yes but is there another shop for delivering in Europe?
Yannick1988 said:
Hello,
where to find this "Naztech Micro USB Charging Cable" for delivering in Belgium (europe). It's on amazon.com but delivery is only US and CANADA
Or do you know another cable wich deliver full power as with wall charger and original htc cable (about 850ma)
Thank you.
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The review on the following url from 24 Nov 2011 indicates it's charge only multi adapter cable:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/HEAD-MULTI-...PZB8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1343570862&sr=8-1
Luck
I don't know if the seller will ship internationally, but this is the one I bought and it works great.
http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=140750149487
It's worth hitting him up and seeing if he'll send it to you.
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Ok thank you but I bought this one
Htp://usbfever.com/index_eproduct_view.php?products_id=1746
hope it will work fine.
Have you guys heard of Mediabridge? I got one of their ethernet cables, but now it's the only brand I buy when it matters. If anyone is still looking for a charging only cable, they have a long 6 ft. cable and a coiled cable - though they do have sync cables with the same stats too (and cheaper).
Here are the charging only cables from Amazon:
Oops, I guess I do too much lurking and not enough posting because it tells me I can't post outside links until I've had 10 submissions.
Simply do an Amazon search for Mediabridge USB Charging Cable and they should be the first 2 results that show. You can compare them with the data/sync cable because the data cable is a single color where the charging only has a dark cable and light grey terminals.
If you're interested in the data/sync cables you can find them under Mediabridge Hi-Speed USB 2.0
If you're using a wall charger or a car charger, either modify the cable (not ideal) or the charger itself (more ideal) to short the D-/D+ pins. When the phone detects the data pins shorted together it assumes it's connected to an AC charger. If you do this to a cable, make sure that only the micro-USB end is shorted and cut the wires so the USB A end isn't shorted.
Many PC USB ports are limited to 500mA draw anyway.