I'm currently a cingular customer with a Tytn. I was wondering if there's any real benifit to upgrading to the Cingular Rom or if I'm better just sticking with HTC's Rom?
From what I've read - you loose the functionality of the 5th button (which a hack has recently been developed to regain that) and that the video button stops working (as well as loosing the video chat functionality all together). Not that I use the front video cam much but does this mean that the video camera doesn't function at all?
So far what little I've read makes me wonder what why I would want to use the cingular rom (YYYYEeeeaaahhhhh - I can have another branded OS!). I think I must be missing something important to loose the functionality of some buttons and possibly the front camera - I can't believe everybody just wants that cingular logo all over the place so there must be something big I'm missin here
Hi, I must be missin something also..cause I haven't a clue either why someone would go to the cingular rom or for that matter any branded rom.
I'm sure that there are a lot of people looking for better performance, stability and/or resolution of annoying issues like screen alignment
Whether any of these can be resolved by using a different ROM version remains to be seen.
Ok, I'll field some answers here.. Why did I go with the Cingular rom? (reasons not necessarily in order of importance). First let me say that my operator is Cingular and I'm running the 1.31 AKU2.6 Cingular release with the 1.13 radio.
1. No more roaming triangles on Cingular's network.
2. Better Radio. I have much better reception with this ROM
3. Better overall performance
4. Those nagging low battery tones are fixed
5. Better A2DP performance (although I believe its related to #3)
6. The "won't come back from powersave" bug is fixed
From a branding perspective, I aborted the Cingular customization, instead loading the TyTN extRom and I'm happy to report that there is zero Cingular branding on my TyTN still.
What did I loose? Pressing the video call button doesn't bring up the video call application (yet.... heheheheh). This isn't a priority issue for me though since Cingular doesn't have the infrastructure to support video calling.
btw: to see how well your front video camera works, go here and load up the CoolCamera 1.15 beta. As a proof of concept, this little applicaton is huge. Video calling may never catch on in the US you see, however as the link shows, the front camera is api connected which means that vendors like Skype or the next iteration of Mobile Communicator will very likely support it as well. IMO this is the real reason for a front video camera.
I can hardly wait...
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Why didn't you do the 1.34 cingular rom? I am trying to decide if I should load one of the cingular rom's or wait for the next htc rom. I am currently running the htc tytn shipped rom with the 1.16 radio.
I had heard that the next htc tytn rom may include aku3..any thoughts
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Ok, I'll field some answers here.. Why did I go with the Cingular rom? (reasons not necessarily in order of importance). First let me say that my operator is Cingular and I'm running the 1.31 AKU2.6 Cingular release with the 1.13 radio.
1. No more roaming triangles on Cingular's network.
2. Better Radio. I have much better reception with this ROM
3. Better overall performance
4. Those nagging low battery tones are fixed
5. Better A2DP performance (although I believe its related to #3)
6. The "won't come back from powersave" bug is fixed
From a branding perspective, I aborted the Cingular customization, instead loading the TyTN extRom and I'm happy to report that there is zero Cingular branding on my TyTN still.
What did I loose? Pressing the video call button doesn't bring up the video call application (yet.... heheheheh). This isn't a priority issue for me though since Cingular doesn't have the infrastructure to support video calling.
btw: to see how well your front video camera works, go here and load up the CoolCamera 1.15 beta. As a proof of concept, this little applicaton is huge. Video calling may never catch on in the US you see, however as the link shows, the front camera is api connected which means that vendors like Skype or the next iteration of Mobile Communicator will very likely support it as well. IMO this is the real reason for a front video camera.
I can hardly wait...
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Thanks - sounds like some good reasons to use the Cingular Rom.
So quick follow up on the Video camera - it sounds like it still functions -the button just no longer brings up the video camera ap (is this key mapable on the cingular version or do you loose the button all together currently?)
Thanks again!
@chymmylt:Right now, the video call button is lost (unmappable by any applicaton). When I get a few minutes I'll work on it...
@eagle 1: I jumped on the 1.31 ROM just before the 1.34 ROM came out. AFAIK, the only fix in the 1.34 ROM that wasn't in 1.31 has to do with the battery level display after return from powersave mode. In v1.34, instead of starting at 100% and then dropping down to the correct level, it now starts at "unknown" then changes to the correct level.
Also, the 1.31 ROM is an AKU 2.6 vs. AKU 2.3 release. Nothing different here other than bragging rights I guess
Anyway, the small differences between the ROMs wasn't worth the 2 hour downgrade/upgrade process. I'll reflash again when the latest TyTN ROM is released which will be an AKU 3.x variant.
I upgraded my JasJam radio but I did not anything else. My device seems to be pretty stable with I-mate rom right now and I don't feel like loosing my video call button. I am waiting for AKU 3.x before investing the time it takes to do upgrades now. I could not believe how long it took just for the radio.
It's not like you can Video Call on Cingular's network anyway...
Agreed, but I can use the button for other things.
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It's not like you can Video Call on Cingular's network anyway...
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Why not? I haven't tried it, as I know no one else who has a TyTN...
Cingular's network is a "best effort" data delivery infrastructure and lacks the QOS enhancements needed to support video calling. This is according to austin_boy (the source for all Cingular ROMS here).
From what I've heard from Boy Genius, they disabled it on their network, so unless someone can figure a way out, it's not going to work.
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It's not like you can Video Call on Cingular's network anyway...
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True but I spend a 3rd of the year in Europe where I can use it (not that I have but I have a number of friends who have phones capable) and it'd be nice to have the ability if I need it
Anyone managed to downgrade from Cingular 1.31 (bootloader 1.06) tried all the tricks on wiki but without success. Probably its because of bootloader version, as from 1.04 is quite easy to go back with rom. Do You have any ideas?
@lukjod: you need a rom matching your CID with bootloader 1.04 to be able to downgrade.
The question is were to get it.... and in the past i remember with the s100 to hack the files and put t-mob003 (my device code) in the files to flash even a rom that was not correct... Any chance doing this also?
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True but I spend a 3rd of the year in Europe where I can use it (not that I have but I have a number of friends who have phones capable) and it'd be nice to have the ability if I need it
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The video call feature is still there (pressing soft button that says "Video Call" on the Phone app works just fine). You get this back when you reload the TyTN extrom instead of the Cingular. Just no link to the physical button. I need to play around on a ROM that has a working video call button to see how it's done before I can fix this.
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The video call feature is still there (pressing soft button that says "Video Call" on the Phone app works just fine). You get this back when you reload the TyTN extrom instead of the Cingular. Just no link to the physical button. I need to play around on a ROM that has a working video call button to see how it's done before I can fix this.
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So if I upgraded to Cingulars rom but used the extrom from the TyTN it would look and have all the functions of the TyTN roms (except the 2 keys with mapping issues - one you've kindly fixed) but the benifits of a more currently tweeked OS? Aside from having the mapping issues and having to downgrade to upgrade in the future (but being a TyTN I shouldn't have problems with this right?) are there any other downsides to doing this?
Thanks
Nope... other than the fact that the upgrade process itself is a bit risky. This is because it takes 25 minutes to accomplish and any interruptions during the process itself can brick your device.
Close all apps, disable screen saver and use a rear USB port when flashing then walk away and go do something else for 25 minutes or the suspense will drive you nuts.....
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Hello everybody
I have been reading on this forum for some time now, and I understand the update process, including unlocking, its all great.
However, Im at a loss - I have no idea what I have to gain from upgrading my ROM.
I currently have an untouched T-Mobile Vario II with bootloader 1.04, hardware vesion (?) 634.
My friend has just recieved his Vario II, v646.
Everyones talking about using ROMs from other providers, but I've yet to read anything substantial about whats to be gained from switching or upgrading ROMs.
What CAN actually be changed by changing ROMs? For example, T-Mobile have been kind enough to bundle my device with a free registered version of 'Spb GPRS Monitor' - it monitors GPRS/3G and battery power, plus providing a useful bar on the today screen. it's very useful and I wouldn't want to lose it should I decide to gamble on a ROM update that provides nothing nearly as useful.
I have identified several short comings of my devide, not the least of which is the fact that it intermittantly skips every 30+ seconds when playing music through my stereo bluetooth earphones. I imagine that some kind of update will be required to fix this, as it seems to be a problem for only certain version of the device - the Vario II being the obvious.
I have also decided that I would like to try other graphic themes. Before I have a go at making my own I thought it might be nice to try some existing ones...
There are lots of hardware/radio versions published, but unless I've missed it theres very little talk about what the ROMs provide.
Cheers very much for all your help thus far, and in advance for anything else you might be able to help me with!
lets make this a simple one.. if you are happy with the device the way it is then there is nothing to change... kinda like the old saying, "If it aint broke then dont fix it"
If there are things you are looking to change then maybe post your problems here and we can tell you if you would benefit from changing roms!
I have the universal and purchased the hermes for size and HSDPA / UMTS improvements.
The universal was upgraded and hacked many times.
However, I cant see an upgrade rom hack that is available at all here for the hermes yet.
Can anybody confirm a WWE 3.x Rom upgrade being available? Mine is Imate, but I am not particularly loyal in any way, but would like more reliable Push Email, and the speed improvements that occur with 3.x
To the moderator, you cant really say if it aint broke dont fix it, cause quite often, you dont know if it is broken until you start to fix something, and you dont know if something is faster, better, more efficient, more effective, or provides improvements in functionality until a question is asked.
Its a bit like me taking my car to a mechanic, they always ask if everything is fine, it always is, but they always call me up and tell me that this isnt working, this needs fixing, and this is about to broke... You can triple the cost if you would like us to fix it.
You didnt know until somebody points out the improvements and benefits.
So, I would like the initial question answered as well, if somebody is prepared to give an explanation and some guidance.
Here's some upgrading facts for you:
There is no AKU 3.x ROM available for the Hermes yet.
Due to a new encryption strategy, ROMS take 25 minutes to flash. Any interruptions during this time may brick your device.
Also due to the above encryption strategy, we are not yet able to cook our own custom ROMS for the Hermes.
Boot Loader v1.04 which shipped with most of the early ROMs contains a bug which allows easy bypassing of CID lock. However subsequent bootloaders fix this problem and will CID lock you to your original vendor. The only crossgrade solution is to first downgrade to a BL1.04 version of your vendor's ROM then exploit the bug to load another. Device owners without a 1.04BL version of their ROM have consequently been unable to crossgrade/unlock their Hermes.
There is a bootleg solution that will flash BL1.04 on any Hermes while leaving the rest of the ROM untouched. However, it isn't available here. In fact the original owner of it's copyrighted code actively pursues anybody who posts this solution on the internet. Consequently, it's worldwide availability is constantly changing
There is a CID/SIM unlock solution by pof that is posted here which works with the 1.04 Bootloader only
The more current ROMS for the DoPod, TyTN and 8525 contain measured performance improvements
The most current radio rom (v1.20) improves battery performance
Most of the newer roms fix a media player audio stutter bug
Getting a combination of the most current radio ROM and the most current device ROM involves 40-60 minutes of flashing time and the use of the bootleg BL1.04 solution described above.
HTH!
Thanks sleuth255 for taking the time to answer comprehensively.
I am really only interested in upgrading to 3.x and will wait and see how things transpire. There was major benefits to the universal upgrade to 3.x however, the hermes doesnt appear to suffer the speed issues of the universal and I am so far very happy with the device.
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Hello everybody
I have identified several short comings of my devide, not the least of which is the fact that it intermittantly skips every 30+ seconds when playing music through my stereo bluetooth earphones. I imagine that some kind of update will be required to fix this, as it seems to be a problem for only certain version of the device - the Vario II being the obvious.
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I tested all the WWE ROM here (not the one with 1.09 bootloader, because since today is a one way only road, no way to flash back the original ROM)
About music skip: not sure if upgrade will solve it (since today) but there is a good patch here. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=284974
Other well known problems (lost storage card in windows media player, overnight and in-call freeze, poor efficiency (short battery life in UMTS coverage, slow performances if compared to processor speed promise, ...) are still unsolved
I will suggest: play if you want, but having in mind that HERMES ROM flashing today is just for play, have a look, testing, not for really solving anything
Supercid ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=282073 ) your device to play with ROMs, now, because you have the 1.04 bootloader version. Once SUPERCIDed you can play with all ROM
Well thats my primary issue at the moment and it sounds a lot like your fix may work for me.
I am using an original ROM im guessing, with bootloader 1.04 so all the doors are open for me. I'm in nor rush, strictly speaking, because I love this device and it generally works wonders for me. I listen to music for long periods of time once in a while (long car journeys alone with my SE ds970 - plugs the ears well providing awsome noise removal from external sources, can't even hear the engine on my crappy Vauxhall Corsa with those in...) but it is during those periods that I suffer with the skipping. fixing it will be wonderful.
I have a question about your fix though, but I worry that having read the first few pages of your other thread, and the last few, I may have missed the answer so I apologise if I'm asking questions you have already answered - but I remember reading the original thread a while ago from the guy who discovered the Task Manager app that fixed the issue and he mentioned that because the software seems to prevent any CPU speed scaling (not sure if thats actually what its doing) he observed that CPU battery consumption while running that specific app + audio decreased noticably. Is this still an issue with your patch? I plan to purchase a working in-car power adapter so it won't really be a problem, but im curious
I'm gonna take my time with regards to ROM upgrades because as has been mentioned above - I have only a few issues which after reading this thread now seem to be standing issues which won't be fixed whatever I decide to do right now. Ultimately, I have the stuff I detailed above adn thus far no steadfast information about which ROMs are good for what. I don't even know anything about this 3.x business noted above...
What I'd like to know now, before I try your fix, is - if i were to install a TyTn ROM (which right now Im assuming is an original HTC TyTn ROM as oposed to a yet-to-be-released T-Mobile ROM...?) will that effectively brand it back to HTC, wipe the onboard flash, give me the original TyTn green theme, remove all the software and settings T-Mobile gave me (they were kind enough to give me a licensed copy of Spb GPRS Monitor which is quite an advantage for me - my friend has a more recent T-Mobile Vario II and they seem to have retracted the offer ... ) and leave me at square one with any fixes/improvements/new-issues that ROM provides?
I also seem to remember reading that because as yet T-Mobile have not released an original ROM, changing now is a one way trip.
I think what I need is for someone to set me in the right direction from the perspective of a early Vario II user. I really enjoy my gadgets, and the best thing about them is "fixing things that aint broke" I love upgrading and trying to squeeze it for all its worth. Better yet, updating my device and gloating to those who have no idea what that means! It's all good...
Anyway, cheers very much for your help thus far - greatly appreciated.
I installed the dcd 2.1.0 verizon rom with the v3.27.0 radio (following these instructions:
http://www.phonenews.com/how-to-add-gps-to-htc-mogul-xv6800-p4000-titan-2663/)
and everything went fine but now my device is freezing up and generally not acting healthy. Can anyone vouch for this set up and/or recommend the best current rom for verizon? Im not too concerned with having GPS available (but would be nice), I would really like to have a nice no junk rom above all else. Thanks for any advice.
I haven't had good luck with any of the gps/reva roms on verizon... Seems every rom combination has it's share of quirks/bugs it's just a matter of finding the one that has some u can live with
I'm yet to find one that is FLAWLESS... if you find one let me know!
I have flashed several VZW xv6800s. If you have the 3.35 radio just flash DCDs latest (3.0.4). It runs very smooth. I have no issues except sometimes the GPS fix takes longer. It does everything else. Make sure you Hard reset after flashing.
Edit: sorry guys, was not thinking as i typed. I meant 3.35 radio (the one from the sprint update). Flash the 3.35 or 3.37 radio!
I would suggest using the latest ROM as well. Seems to have made a difference with battery life to me.
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I would suggest using the latest ROM as well. Seems to have made a difference with battery life to me.
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interesting how u guys on vzq have no problems with the reva radios... I was running 3.0.4 for quite a while until I finally canned it because I couldn't deal with apps crashing when switch to other procs... I went back to 1.7 to see if there was a problem there too but everything runs good it seems... am having bluetooth problems locking up device sometimes though so now I'm back to vzw stock radio to see if that fixes things? Actually I have no idea if bluetooth would be affected by radio or not but I'm desperately trying to find a stable setup.
I have flashed several VZW xv6800s. If you have the 3.27 radio just flash DCDs latest (3.0.4). It runs very smooth. I have no issues except sometimes the GPS fix takes longer. It does everything else. Make sure you Hard reset after flashing.
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This is VERY bad advice and will only screw your phone up even more. It says in numerous places on these boards that 3.27 radio is NOT compatible with 3.x.x roms. The only roms that will work with the 3.27 radio are the 2.x.x roms.
My question to you though is why on god's green earth are you still wanting to run a 2.x.x rom with the old crappy buggy beta radio 3.27? Just update with the alltel updater to get radio 3.37.20, don't let customizations run, then flash dcd 3.0.4...much much better and will probably fix your gps problems.
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I have flashed several VZW xv6800s. If you have the 3.27 radio just flash DCDs latest (3.0.4). It runs very smooth. I have no issues except sometimes the GPS fix takes longer. It does everything else. Make sure you Hard reset after flashing.
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Danger!
radio 3.27 is NOT compatible with dcd 3.0.4 rom!!!
1) radio 1.30 or radio 1.40 = use dcd 1.7 (non gps rom)
2) radio 3.27 radio = use ONLY dcd 2.x.x series roms (with gps , revA - experimental)
3) radio 3.37 radio = use dcd 3.0.1 or 3.0.4. (gps and revA official)
my recommendation would be option 1 or 3. Depending on whether you want gps or not.
Zenoran said:
interesting how u guys on vzq have no problems with the reva radios... I was running 3.0.4 for quite a while until I finally canned it because I couldn't deal with apps crashing when switch to other procs... I went back to 1.7 to see if there was a problem there too but everything runs good it seems... am having bluetooth problems locking up device sometimes though so now I'm back to vzw stock radio to see if that fixes things? Actually I have no idea if bluetooth would be affected by radio or not but I'm desperately trying to find a stable setup.
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Zen,
I think you might be the victim of a dodgy titan. I was, like you, using 1.7 for the longest time because I couldnt put up with the buggy 3.27 radio. So i just stayed non gps until the new radion 3.35 came out and dcd released 3.x.x series of roms. Since then I bit the bullet and went back to gps rom. I didn't look back. So far dcd rom 3.0.4 + radio 3.37 (alltel) has been the best (i.e reliable) rom setup I have experienced since I was on dcd 1.7.0. I think they are both equal now, except that I have gps enabled now and I dont need to carry my gps with me all the time.
The internal gps does SUCK the battery down kinda fast, but it is reliable. No bluetooth issues that I can see except that call quality is still sub-par but at least it connects without any trouble. If I am using the gps function in the car i use my BT gps because the BT radio uses a lot less juice than the internal gps receiver.
I have VZW just like you and gc, az clown etc and we all have similar good experience with the new setup. So the only other thing I could say about your titan problems is that it must be hardware. Try stock again and see if it clears up the problems then I would say that my reading of your situation is wrong. But from what you have said it seems right.
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Zen,
I think you might be the victim of a dodgy titan. I was, like you, using 1.7 for the longest time because I couldnt put up with the buggy 3.27 radio. So i just stayed non gps until the new radion 3.35 came out and dcd released 3.x.x series of roms. Since then I bit the bullet and went back to gps rom. I didn't look back. So far dcd rom 3.0.4 + radio 3.37 (alltel) has been the best (i.e reliable) rom setup I have experienced since I was on dcd 1.7.0. I think they are both equal now, except that I have gps enabled now and I dont need to carry my gps with me all the time.
The internal gps does SUCK the battery down kinda fast, but it is reliable. No bluetooth issues that I can see except that call quality is still sub-par but at least it connects without any trouble. If I am using the gps function in the car i use my BT gps because the BT radio uses a lot less juice than the internal gps receiver.
I have VZW just like you and gc, az clown etc and we all have similar good experience with the new setup. So the only other thing I could say about your titan problems is that it must be hardware. Try stock again and see if it clears up the problems then I would say that my reading of your situation is wrong. But from what you have said it seems right.
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Well, that's the thing.. when I go to stock everything I have no problems but am stuck with crappy wm6.0... I don't mind not having the gps so much but it def would be nice... However, I do hate having to run an older rom that isn't community-supported any longer due to newer releases...
I think my problem with 3.0.4 might have been the way I flashed the radio.. I was one of the original ones to actually get the dcd released radio installation to work and hadn't really looked back.... im wondering if maybe that was the problem... I might consider trying the sprint rom method to get the radio and then trying 3.0.4 again...
Other than that, I don't see any way to get a warranty replacement on the device if all the stock vzw stuff works without a problem.. only support I ever have logged with vzw for this device is the many many many times I've had hung data connections from switching back and forth to reva/non reva radios so much.... I long for a stable setup so I don't have to deal with this anymore
Other than that, I don't see any way to get a warranty replacement on the device if all the stock vzw stuff works without a problem.. only support I ever have logged with vzw for this device is the many many many times I've had hung data connections from switching back and forth to reva/non reva radios so much.... I long for a stable setup so I don't have to deal with this anymore
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Now I'm not saying I condone this, but man...there are definitely ways to get warranty replacements even if everything works fine...
Just need to "screw things up" on your own Make it so your phone won't boot, bring it to a vzw tech center...cuz they won't know what the hell is wrong with it trust me...and bam they'll swap it out.
Edited my original post...
Also, i have had 2 replacement xv6800s. One was for white spot in the bottom left part of the screen. I had to call VZW and tell them they were out of replacements at the store. The other was replaced a week later for data not working.
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Well, that's the thing.. when I go to stock everything I have no problems but am stuck with crappy wm6.0... I don't mind not having the gps so much but it def would be nice... However, I do hate having to run an older rom that isn't community-supported any longer due to newer releases...
I think my problem with 3.0.4 might have been the way I flashed the radio.. I was one of the original ones to actually get the dcd released radio installation to work and hadn't really looked back.... im wondering if maybe that was the problem... I might consider trying the sprint rom method to get the radio and then trying 3.0.4 again...
Other than that, I don't see any way to get a warranty replacement on the device if all the stock vzw stuff works without a problem.. only support I ever have logged with vzw for this device is the many many many times I've had hung data connections from switching back and forth to reva/non reva radios so much.... I long for a stable setup so I don't have to deal with this anymore
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Zen,
go the 'official' route from stock. olipro 2.40. sprint 3.35 official (without allowing customizations) then flash dcd 3.0.4. If you still then have problems then we can isolate your flash before as a potential problem.
if you still have all the same issues then i really think its time for a new titan. If all is well then you can finally relax and enjoy the device.
Good luck
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Zen,
go the 'official' route from stock. olipro 2.40. sprint 3.35 official (without allowing customizations) then flash dcd 3.0.4. If you still then have problems then we can isolate your flash before as a potential problem.
if you still have all the same issues then i really think its time for a new titan. If all is well then you can finally relax and enjoy the device.
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Ya, I actually did the Sprint Flash this time around and things seem to be working better, to my surprise... Things seem to be running a lot better now compared to the radio hack I was using before... I imagine that's the reason dcd killed that link off the forums... although it didn't brick my phone, it obviously was crippling my device quite a bit.
Only thing that worries me (somewhat) about the sprint rom was that it changed the bootup screen (pre os load).. it's now black screen with red lettering showing versions... I have NO idea how that can be reverted back if I ever need to have this thing serviced. That sprint rom appears to totally changed the device.
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Ya, I actually did the Sprint Flash this time around and things seem to be working better, to my surprise... Things seem to be running a lot better now compared to the radio hack I was using before... I imagine that's the reason dcd killed that link off the forums... although it didn't brick my phone, it obviously was crippling my device quite a bit.
Only thing that worries me (somewhat) about the sprint rom was that it changed the bootup screen (pre os load).. it's now black screen with red lettering showing versions... I have NO idea how that can be reverted back if I ever need to have this thing serviced. That sprint rom appears to totally changed the device.
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Flashing of the pre-windows boot screens (i.e. the ones that show up around the time that the red lettered rom versions appear) are not part of the rom. You can't modify them with dcd's kitchen.
There are three options that you have.
1. You can create a mini rom with the splash screens in it that you can flash to the device. I dont know how to do it and dont really care to find out, but gcincotta knows how to do it and posted instructions a few days ago in another post. He can tell you how to do it.
2. You can use the ppcgeeks kitchen to create boot screens and then flash your dcd rom over the top.
3. Flashing a stock verizon, sprint, alltel etc rom will contain the splash screens and put them back on along with the correct (stock) radio and roms. Then you can take your very clean 'stock' titan back to the store for repairs or replacement without fear.
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Flashing of the pre-windows boot screens (i.e. the ones that show up around the time that the red lettered rom versions appear) are not part of the rom. You can't modify them with dcd's kitchen.
There are three options that you have.
1. You can create a mini rom with the splash screens in it that you can flash to the device. I dont know how to do it and dont really care to find out, but gcincotta knows how to do it and posted instructions a few days ago in another post. He can tell you how to do it.
2. You can use the ppcgeeks kitchen to create boot screens and then flash your dcd rom over the top.
3. Flashing a stock verizon, sprint, alltel etc rom will contain the splash screens and put them back on along with the correct (stock) radio and roms. Then you can take your very clean 'stock' titan back to the store for repairs or replacement without fear.
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Interesting.. I've never seen that changed other than this sprint rom... the stock VZW rom images I have just do the OS and Radio separately... I guess when/if I run into a situation where I need to revert back I'll worry about it then.. Until then, the newer boot screen is def cooler
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Now I'm not saying I condone this, but man...there are definitely ways to get warranty replacements even if everything works fine...
Just need to "screw things up" on your own Make it so your phone won't boot, bring it to a vzw tech center...cuz they won't know what the hell is wrong with it trust me...and bam they'll swap it out.
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gc, this is so true. The 'techs' at the verizon stores (bless their hearts) know nothing at all about the titan. you could go in there with a fully "sprintized' titan and seriously they wouldn't notice.
I found this out the first time I tried to flash. I thought I had bricked the device and took it to the "service center" verizon store near my location to get the data back working (yeah that's all the problem was, but I was a noob and didnt know better). They didnt have the slightest idea what to do to solve the problem. They screwed around with it for a while and gave it back, basically the same. they offered to switch it out for me, but I said i will try just a bit longer (and it had a customized 'colonel - ppcgeeks' rom on it - if you have ever seen one it is completely unmistakable - looks nothing like a verizon rom).
I went outside, called *8899 and got a service support tech to fix the phone over the air. The problem had just been the data account needed to be reset at their end. Not only did the guys in the store have no idea how to fix it, they didnt even notice that my device was clearly not stock.
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Interesting.. I've never seen that changed other than this sprint rom... the stock VZW rom images I have just do the OS and Radio separately... I guess when/if I run into a situation where I need to revert back I'll worry about it then.. Until then, the newer boot screen is def cooler
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Yeah, if you do the flashes separately the boot screen never change. I still had the original verizon boot screens until just recently when I did the upgrade to dcd 3.0.4. Its the running of the sprint installer that overwrites your verizon splash, not the rom or the radio themselves.
Anyway, i used the dcd kitchen to create my 3.0.4 rom and selected HTC animation. That creates a HTC splash to overwrite the sprint stuff, and then I did this and this and my machine looks sweet when it boots.
The instructions of how to load them is explained in the thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=379822
Enjoy. (I cant post pics of the screens because the xda database is busted at the moment)
I dont care what anyone says - the stock rom is faster.
I've been using dcd 3.2.5 for almost a week - like the Rev-A, dont care for the GPS, rest is pretty good.
But I could swear that it was not as responsive as the stock.
So I just got down reflashing the stock rom tonight - sure enough, the phone is much more responsive.
I'm curious as to other's experience since many think that dcd 3.2.5 is faster (just not in my experience)
So now I'll be waiting for the official VZW upgrade sometime this century...
normally, i wouldn't butt in on this; but i've noticed my phone has been much less responsive...
I'm not going to blame anyone or anything yet, but for example, when I'm drafting up a text, I can't even add recipients from my contacts, it just sits there and 'searches' forever...
but yeah, that's just my rant for today
I really do appreciate everyone's work and I try to help out the community wherever I can, so I'm not bashing.
If anyone knows of any software issues that are creating sluggishness, please let me know.
Otherwise, Keep up the good work everyone.
I agree
Also, I wont dare bash anyone for the work that has gone into these roms. I only wish I had the skill to do what some of these guys or doing.
This was in no way meant to bash anyone - just something I noticed
Maybe its some program I was running - who knows
While I loved having Rev-A, overall speed is more important to me right now
I may go back to dcd's rom in a few weeks if I find I really need the rev-a but for now its back to stock and some more playing around
(maybe I'll find out if it was a program I was running or not)
by chance are you using HTC Home?
I originally flashed 3.2.5 with the Pre-Built ROM and noticed the build was a bit sluggish. I have since went back and adjusted the page pool to 8.5 mb and some other minor adjustments and noticed a decent improvement in the response.
scrawnyb - Just to give you something to compare to... I just now tried starting a text message from scratch and there was no wait at all when opening the message app, selecting a contact, and sending. I have approx. 1000 msgs in my sms inbox and around 130 contacts. Also keep 2-3 days worth of my outlook inbox synced (~50megs.. wireless sync limitation ).
I was on 3.2.0 (fairly stable, bit sluggish). Went to 3.2.3 (buggy for me, not much better on speed). By far 3.2.5 has been the best 3.2.x rom so far for me. I have to agree as well that the original stock rom was fast but i can deal with the minor quirks here and there to get Rev A when tethering and GPS. Also I couldn't live without threaded sms now!
It has been so long since I ran the stock VZ ROM that I really could not compare it outright to 3.2.5. But every build since that first upgrade has been faster and less buggy than the last. I would have to say that the speed and lock up issues are getting better every new ROM.
I am NOT going to revert back to stock to do a side by side comparison so take my opinion as just that: my opinion. But that is the great thing about all these talented individuals who are customizing these ROMs for the public. There is more than one choice and you have to try them all to find what you like.
I've definitely noticed a delay. It's gotten to the point where even touching the start menu and accessing folders has become sluggish, making the xv6700(I compared, xv6700 in stock rom vs xv6800 updated) appear LIGHTNING fast.
And I specifically remember when I first got my xv6800, I noticed how much faster it was than my 6700... Infact, STOCK 6800 has more free ram than any custom rom I've used!! (27-28MB free when I had to flash back to fix my data connection)
I started off with dcd and now I'm with nuerom v2.2 and things just keep getting progressively slower. I don't know what to tell anyone
It's something you guys are doing that is causing the problems.... period... Just to test, I'll make a ROM and you can download it and flash, and tell me what ya see....
My experience is with every rom upgrade it gets better and better. I can't believe how fast 3.25 is on mine then 3.22 was. Huge difference and just about perfect.
I would be curious to know what apps you guys are running. Maybe you have something in common that is slowing you down?
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My experience is with every rom upgrade it gets better and better. I can't believe how fast 3.25 is on mine then 3.22 was. Huge difference and just about perfect.
I would be curious to know what apps you guys are running. Maybe you have something in common that is slowing you down?
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I've narrowed it down to one of the following:
HTC Home <- this seems to be the most likely
Wisbar Advance <- don't think it's this
W.I.M.P. <- didn't notice a difference by closing this
Stock ROM was buggy and it drank RAM like water. DCD's ROMs blow the stock out of the water.
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by chance are you using HTC Home?
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no - didnt use it with either rom
My comparison was 3rd party preinstall - tested immediately after flash
I've got some apps on the stock rom now and its slowed down just a bit but still more responsive than dcd's latest version
What you use depends on what you need - I dont need rev-a or gps so I'll take the speed
What you use depends on what you need - I dont need rev-a or gps so I'll take the speed
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You do know that Rev A and GPS aren't all you're losing right? Have fun with Windows Mobile 6.0 and its crappy memory management, lack of threaded messaging etc.
If Rev A and GPS are what you don't care about...have you bothered to try dcd 1.7.0? Windows Mobile 6.1 without GPS/Rev A, compatible with 1.x.x radios and Olipro 1.20...
3.2.5 is the fastest rom I've seen on this phone, stock or otherwise; AND I'm running it with HTC Home / HHC.
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3.2.5 is the fastest rom I've seen on this phone, stock or otherwise; AND I'm running it with HTC Home / HHC.
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i agree, although i'm not running HTC Home, or VZW stock rom, but this is by far the best ROM of DCD's i've ever run.
WHAT?
I can't really comment on VW's stock ROM since I've never used it; however, I have USCC and have compared it side-by-side with Sprint's stock, as well as Sprint and USCC stock side-by-side with DCD's 3.2.3 and 3.2.5... Yes, I've flashed the hell outta' the two Titans! My personal experience reflects DCD's 3.2.5 to be the fastest (and even most stable) of all. It's awesome! The only problems I encountered I noticed to occur with HTS Home installed (it would consistantly freeze up the unit). I also S2U2 to conflict with FTouch Flo and Slither's Cube (Sluggish). I read about, and subsequently tried, installing HTC Home via HHC and it worked; however, I don't believe that the resulting performance was worth the programs' actual usefulness. I'm sticking with SPB software. DCD's 3.2.5 is hands-down the best ROM as far as performance/speed goes.
Here's my 2 cents worth.
I like the gps but dont need it. I find that it is not nearly as powerful as my bluetooth gps. Certainly nice to have when i dont have my keys with me (my gps is a keychain model). The other problem is that the gps doesnt seem to work when you are outside USA.
I love revA. The upgrade from stock to anything with revA is almost worth by itself.
The memory management of the stock rom is a problem. So dcd has it hands down there.
But the real killer for me. No ICS on the verizon stock rom. Thats the real reason I went to a custom rom. And so far I like dcd's custom roms far better than anything else out there.
Now I agree that some of the dcd roms have not been perfect. For me 3.2.3 for example just wouldnt float my boat. I stayed with 3.1.6 for the longerst time. But I have to say that 3.2.5 is just about bulletproof. As gc said above 1.7.0 was my favorite non revA/gps rom because it was similar. But for me at least 3.2.5 is great. It's incredibly fast and with all the added goodies it make the titan almost a pleasure to use.
Of course your mileage might vary, but for me I can't see much on the horizon better than dcd 3.2.5 (until perhaps verzion release up gps upgrade rom and dcd and cg pull the guts out of it so that we get "instantaneous" gps lock like our sprint brethren.
I swapped over from Verizon stock to dcd 3.2.23 with Radio 3.42.02, HTC Home / HHC, and WkTask 1.1.7.3.
I've noticed a remarkable increase in battery lifetime (approximately 20%), the speed of the phone hardware/response increase dramatically (I no longer have to wait in seconds for the screen to rotate on sliding the keyboard out), and I now have extra features like GPS and internet sharing, which Verizon locks out of the phone while stock.
All in all, my Titan performs faster with a wider range of uses for longer than stock.
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I originally flashed 3.2.5 with the Pre-Built ROM and noticed the build was a bit sluggish. I have since went back and adjusted the page pool to 8.5 mb and some other minor adjustments and noticed a decent improvement in the response.
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Can the page pool be adjusted without reloading the rom? If so, how? Also, what program are you using to adjust the page pool?
Jeff
question: if you guys arent using HTC home what are you using as a replacement that is as good or better?
just curious... I have HTC Home on an older dcd rom (3.1.6) .. it is the only ROM i have ever put on this device other than stock. If there is a known memory leak then perhaps I will update to 3.2.5 and grab a different today screen app.
so any suggestions?
Hello everyone,
I'm starting this thread following my replacement of the standard radio (1.02.25.19) that comes with the UK Touch Pro with the Cingular Rom (1.02.25.31), thanks to MrVanx for the suggestion and to Olinex for the great HardSPL 1.90 (all these in Raphael Wiki here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=419746, except MrVanx of course).
EDIT: By the way, if you're new to this radio game, replacing the radio only DOESN'T erase your memory (as long as it's extracted of course, and despite what updateRUU will tell you), so you can go back and forth very easily, no fastidious reinstall needed.
Following some questions by Athanaso77 in the HardSPL thread, I thought we could share our experiences here about the different radios we try, give feedback and try to see if problems / improvements are general or specific to each phone.
MrVanx has started a more general thread somewhere for feedback about different ROMs/Radios/Protocols (link needed!), so if you're not specifically interested in finding the ultimate T-Mobile UK radio, please post there!
As most (EDIT:many) T-Mobile UK users, I've experienced dropped calls when on 3G and not so good reception in 2G/3G (at least compared to my Vario III/Tytn II), which has prompted the quest [EDIT: along with bad Wifi performance)...
I haven't been able to fully test the 1.02.25.31 radio yet, but here are my first impressions:
- Slightly improved 2G/3G reception
- Not tested yet the dropped calls issue
- Slightly degraded data speed (around 10%) but not sure yet
- Had a problem initially with GPS fix (became longer with TT7) and I'm still testing this. I initially got better results by setting the GPS to Other NMEA GPS, 56700bps, COM4, but it's not consitent so I'm not happy yet.
For those (like Athenaso77) who want to play with the GPS settings in TT7:
from your main TT7 screen, click on the GPS signal strength on the lower right corner, then on the signal strength again on the right (below battery), then configure. You can chose Internal GPS, Other BT GPS or Other NMEA GPS (all three should work and can affect the strength of the signal/lag issue/time needed to get a fix). When asked for speed, select 4800 (default) or 57600. When asked for Com Port, always select COM4 (these should be the default settings in the External GPS app in EDIT:settings/system/external GPS), you can have a look there but don't m*** up with the parameters there, it's the shortest way to a hard reset!).
Please don't ask generic questions about TT7 in this thread (there are plenty on this subject), unless it's related to the performance of the GPS with a new/different Radio.
I'll post a more detailed report in a little while after more testing.
Please let us know about your specific experience. Also before any feedback/question, please give your radio number at the time, as your signature may change....
PS: Any suggestions to make this thread more useful are welcome!
To be honest I am still using the radio that my device was supplied with (1.02.25.19) because I haven't had any problems. Nearly always got H in my bar where ever I go in my local area (bearing in mind I live in the bottom of a valley), only had one or two dropped calls at the most in the month I have been using it, GPS works fine for me, always get a lock quickly and never noticed lag that is out of the ordinary (even going at questionable speeds on the motorway )
It may just be that I am in a great signal area (North Kent btw, if your interested) but I am more than happy with the radio in my phone!
EDIT: It may also be pertinant for people to oost what ROM they are using, as it could be a combination of ROM and Radio that produce a good result! Mine is currently DCSTouchPro-v13 WWE
Great to hear that at least it worked out of the box for you!
As I said, I'm comparing with my Tytn II/Vario III (same area, Salisbury/Wiltshire).
Although the 3G signal was good (not as good as my Vario III), I missed 2 or 3 calls the first day so promptly switched to forced 2G.
The Wifi reception (is it the Touch Pro or the shipped ROM, I don't know) was appalling with the initial ROM, which is also what prompted my quest for a better radio, as I hope the TP can do better than that!
I compared it with my Vario III (before I sold it!) in real time, and I couldn't connect in some rooms where the Vario III had always been absolutely fine (and still was until its last day).
Haven't tested Wifi coverage with the new radio yet, but I will report....
Only have a long fix problem with TT7 since I changed the radio. Not tested the lag yet to see if it's still there, but I think this is more a TT7 software issue as I believe it's fine with TT6 (although not tested on the TP yet).
Out of interest as as everything seems to work for you with stock radio
1) which version of TT7 are you using (I'm using Black VGA repack 3)
2) what are your GPS parameters (in TT7 and in the External GPS app)?
3) do you use QuickGPS or not?
4) are you happy with wifi cover/signal strength and stability?
It may help us less lucky people to improve our experience...
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Great to hear that at least it worked out of the box for you!
As I said, I'm comparing with my Tytn II/Vario III (same area, Salisbury/Wiltshire).
Although the 3G signal was good (not as good as my Vario III, I missed 2 or 3 calls the first day so promptly switched to forced 2G).
The Wifi reception (is it the Touch Pro or the shipped ROM, I don't know) was appalling with the initial ROM, which is also what prompted my quest for a better radio, as I hope the TP can do better than that!
I compared it with my Vario III (before I sold it!) in real time, and I couldn't connect in some rooms where the Vario III had always been absolutely fine (and still was until its last day).
Haven't tested Wifi coverage with the new radio yet, but I will report....
Only have a long fix problem with TT7 since I changed the radio. Not tested the lag yet to see if it's still there, but I think this is more a TT7 software issue as I believe it's fine with TT6 (although not tested on the TP yet).
Out of interest as as everything seems to work for you with stock radio
1) which version of TT7 are you using (I'm using Black VGA repack 3)
2) what are your GPS parameters (in TT7 and in the External GPS app)?
3) do you use QuickGPS or not?
4) are you happy with wifi cover/signal strength and stability?
It may help us less lucky people to improve our experience...
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I do use QuickGPS and I have made sure A_GPS is turned on (by default it was disabled), but I haven't been able to try TT7 yet because I haven't got any maps! iGO8 seams to work fine but the only real testing I did was with google maps, just making sure I kept up, and I let it auto detect the settings.
As for WiFi I don't really use it extensivly, as my office doen't have it and if I am at home I just use my computer but it seamed to be quick enough. I did use it in a pub for a good hour (checking film times, restraurants in the area, general browsing stuff really) and it never dropped out on me, although it did slow down on occasion.
As for dropped calls (i.e straight to answermachine) I can honestly say I haven't had any, the first couple of weeks I still had my old contract running so only 3 people had the new number, so I would have known if someone had
tried to contact me and been unable to. According to T-Mobile I am in the highest level of coverage so maybe I am just lucky in that respect. Like I say it could also be a combination of the ROM, DCS's stuff is very quick and I am very impressed with it
This makes more sense then. The GPS Fix / Lag is only an issue with TT7 on the TP. Google Maps fixes in about 10s (and can be used to improve your fix with TT7) but I'm trying to improve TT7 native response.
The Wifi is specifically a COVERAGE issue. If you're next to the router, or away with no walls, no problems. But I used to be able to get a good signal with my Vario III one or two floors down (I stream TV on my Touch Pro with my Slingbox Pro), and I'm really struggling with the TP (doesn't connect, or loses the connection constantly). I'm not telling you in which room I'm using it most but it's really annoying to suffer such lack of performance compared to the Vario III. Again, this was tested with same router, and simultaneously with Vario III, so I know it's a TP issue.
I may give a new ROM a try once I've decided on the radio...
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This makes more sense then. The GPS Fix / Lag is only an issue with TT7 on the TP. Google Maps fixes in about 10s (and can be used to improve your fix with TT7) but I'm trying to improve TT7 native response.
The Wifi is specifically a COVERAGE issue. If you're next to the router, or away with no walls, no problems. But I used to be able to get a good signal with my Vario III one or two floors down (I stream TV on my Touch Pro with my Slingbox Pro), and I'm really struggling with the TP (doesn't connect, or loses the connection constantly). I'm not telling you in which room I'm using it most but it's really annoying to suffer such lack of performance compared to the Vario III. Again, this was tested with same router, and simultaneously with Vario III, so I know it's a TP issue.
I may give a new ROM a try once I've decided on the radio...
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Fair enough, I thought it was a general GPS issue as opposed to a program specific issue. As for wi-fi I was in the pu so I have no idea where the signal was broadcast from, athough I can say it was a traditional building with incredably thick stone walls by todays standars, so even one room over would have had an effect.
Good luck with your search, if I ever take the plunge for the TT7 maps I will let you knwo how I get on!
Okay, I've done more tests, and here are my first conclusions for1.02.25.31 with stock WWE ROM:
- 3G dropped calls doesn't seem to be an issue anymore, although I need more time - more calls! - to see if it's definitely gone (I usually have 3/4 bars in 3G, and almost all 3G calls were dropped with stock radio).
- 3G data seems to be 10% slower than with stock, but that could be T-mob's mood
- Wifi seems definitely more stable. I used to have trouble connection right next to the router, the new radio is rock stable. From further away (weak signal like 1/2 wifi bars, router in loft , TP in ground floor), it also seems to connect more easily and keep the connecting for longer, where stock used to lose connection every few seconds. It doesn't displays more bars by the way, it's just more stable in borderline locations.
- I have setup my GPS for 4800bps/COM4 in both TomTom and in the external GPS app in settings/system, using "other NMEA GPS" in TT7, and with A-GPS switched on (using Schapps ACT) I get a hot fix in 10-30s consistently, which is good enough for me. I'll have to wait until tomorrow to find out about a cold fix!
So all in all, quite happy with the new radio, which is for me a definite improvement over stock. Now I need to check if the lag in TT7 is still there...
well, I think I'll go for it. I haven't so much had an issue with dropped calls....it's being able to receive the calls in the first place!!.
I also wonder if this will address the data connection issue I've had (push email works fine 90% of the time, if I try to collect my pop mail it connects immediately, but no internet until I do a soft reset.!!)
are there some simple instructions in the wiki about doing the Radio upgrade from the SD card?
Re the data connection, did you uncheck the proxy in your t-mobile connection settings? I had a problem with exchange initially, which was related to a wrong proxy being used by default.
yup..the proxy is unchecked.
it just seems odd that I can't connect to the internet using GPRS etc, but if I connect to my pop3 account ot check email..it works imediately....back to internet explorer...no connection. yet push email works fine too.
surely if my pop3 email connction works when required, and push email works, then connecting to the web via IE should work too??...but no...sometimes it will, sometimes it wont.
well, I now have all the bits I need to update my radio....but....I don't think I will!!
all the instructions I've read are aimed at people who have done it all before and understand the terminology. One day I'm going to sit and write some idiot proof ones.
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well, I now have all the bits I need to update my radio....but....I don't think I will!!
all the instructions I've read are aimed at people who have done it all before and understand the terminology. One day I'm going to sit and write some idiot proof ones.
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i dont think there will ever be a more idiot proof one than "install hard-spl first!!!!" the rest is just download blah blah blah and run customRUU
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i dont think there will ever be a more idiot proof one than "install hard-spl first!!!!" the rest is just download blah blah blah and run customRUU
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perhaps, but the wiki mentions 'flashing' to hardSPL....to me 'flashing' implies ROM replacement!!
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perhaps, but the wiki mentions 'flashing' to hardSPL....to me 'flashing' implies ROM replacement!!
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the procedure is fairly harmless... as long as you follow the instruction (download, extract, click, run, wait)
ok..getting VERY nervous...connected my device...waited for it to finish it's sync, ran the HardSPL exe, it asked me on my device if I wanted to enter bootloader mode, I clicked yes....the screen faded and now it's been sitting with a blank screen for 25 mins!! the backlight is slightly on, but nothing on the screen and although it's connected to my pc still...the sync light is out, and it's not charging...what's gone wrong???
strange, when i ran it, it was actually disconnected via active sync, as i cant browse the device in my computer anymore
Hi all,
in all the ROM-threads we talk about the different radio-versions. As call quality has been THE major issue on our device I decided to make up a new thread only for radio. Hope it is ok..
I`m using Novembre5 german rom #1 with radio 5005.1600.05. The complaints about" I can´t hear you..." seem to increase in comparison to the official toshiba Swiss ROM I used before. I`m using german vodafone network, dk if its important.
Maybe we can compare our experiences with the different radios to help our great cooks to implement the"perfekt" radio for our TG01..
THX to all
DubRas
I guess it will depend were you are. I have tried most of the roms that had been posted here. For the purpose of testing the call quality I spent about two hours trying the roms. The original problem I had with this is the person the other end sometimes can not here me properly. A problem I did not have since I upgraded to the official toshiba rom 6.5.0. When I had november's 6.5.5 rom running to my surprise i had a worst call quality, the qualityon both sides was bad. So I tested the different roms and as a result the radio from the official toshiba upgrade is the best one for me. I am in the UK so it might be a different case with other people on other country.
And just a note the radio version that everyone is using now is originaly release for china so it might not be design for other countrys network. I guess!
Also I have posted this in a couple of threads and aragon said that he can do a tool to easily change the radio on roms. I hope it materials. so thubs up from me.
Just to add. Im using aragon's TG01 Debranded Orange UK - 6.5.0 ROM v0.010 which works perfect for me at the moment. loads of space for program and ram after installing all my apps especially for call quality issue.
Big up.. to aragon
so maybe we, the "european" users, should vote for an 6.5.5-ROM with the official UK-Radio. Or, if aragon gets an "easy-radio-update-tool" to work, we might be able to do it ourselves...
It seems that FFBOY radio layer is better, that what I can see, but it's not easy, because all ROM works well, with some diffenreces.... No need of SRSWOW with ffboy's ROM.
DubRas said:
so maybe we, the "european" users, should vote for an 6.5.5-ROM with the official UK-Radio. Or, if aragon gets an "easy-radio-update-tool" to work, we might be able to do it ourselves...
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I'm from Romania this means from Europe here only work the latest Hong Kong radio driver 5005.1600.05 the other one from official UK keep getting problems in call quality.
Do i get that right: there seems to be no easy answer to the question: which is the best radio? Cant believe it, but my technical knowledge is maybe much too low for that. The "Easy-radio-update-tool" might be a possibility for every single user to find the radio that works best for him and in his country/network. So hopefully a tool like that will appear sometime in the future.
im using the newest offical tosh 6.5 update cooked with the
5005.1600.05 radio by aragon this has drastically improved my sound quality i no longer need srswow plus as it the offical rom there is not bugs ect
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im using the newest offical tosh 6.5 update cooked with the
5005.1600.05 radio by aragon this has drastically improved my sound quality i no longer need srswow plus as it the offical rom there is not bugs ect
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Yes i can confirm that too.
useyourfist said:
im using the newest offical tosh 6.5 update cooked with the
5005.1600.05 radio by aragon this has drastically improved my sound quality i no longer need srswow plus as it the offical rom there is not bugs ect
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What country of you used
I use WM 6.1, but only chinese version... i don't understand nothing, but....... radio works perfectly in my country. it's the first time, when my phone works good, when i am talking with somebody... you can find this rom in the ffboys rom link (somewhere in last posts there is a link for 6.1)I AM VERY SORRY FOR MY BAD ENGLISH
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i use uk/english rom
Strange. I've been using ffboy's Sense Rom with 5005.1600.05 radio and my call quality is worse. Loads of people here are saying it was better for them. Mind you, it was the same story with the original 6.5 update. Loss of people had problems, but others swore blind that it was perfect for them, with some even suggesting that we must have had a bad batch with a unique hardware fault. I think it's fair to say I ruled that out. I've had 8, some of them refurbs, but the last two were brand new replacements. They were all the same for me. A couple of people suggested it was more to do with varying quality in beteen gsm or 3g areas of network coverage.
One thing I noticed that helped sometimes was to change the volume slider up or down and for some strange reason, the other caller would say that it was better, but then it would get bad again after a few minutes. I once tried dialing my own number and leaving a message on my own voicemail to see what was happening and I discovered that the sound started breaking up particularly at the point when the screen turns off shortly after the start of the call. Anyone else noticed that?
Confused.
Like some others, I found the latest UK Toshiba update to be the best for me so far, although not prefect.
Has anyone had problems with 5005.1700.05?
i had big problems with the 1700 radio. So i had to go back on a rom with a 1600 radio.
I tried 1600 radio version it is not that good. My friend can hear heavy echoing and the time for phone to response is too slow(in my case 20 secs later). WM6.1 has much better radio quality.
I used Japanese version of tg01, when flashed Uk rom radio dont changed, how to change radio for this version ? plz help me, this radio version is really suck (sorry my bad english)
Drbeckman said:
i had big problems with the 1700 radio. So i had to go back on a rom with a 1600 radio.
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hi,
same experince for me.
switch radio
Is it posible to switch radios without swithing rom's?
Hi Everybody,
I would like to know ,What is the meaning of radio version number? 1500,1600,1700 it mean frequency?(5005.1500.05,5005.1600.05,5005.1700.05)
@MeePooh said:
Hi Everybody,
I would like to know ,What is the meaning of radio version number? 1500,1600,1700 it mean frequency?(5005.1500.05,5005.1600.05,5005.1700.05)
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No frequency related, those(&many others) are radio software versions (generally fitted to certain ROM versions, depending on country?!), so far nobody knows precisely differences between them...