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i know the TV out isto 3 phono, and can display in Pal or NTSC but it would be useful if there is a VGA one or a good way to do it,
any ideas
monkeyturnip said:
i know the TV out isto 3 phono, and can display in Pal or NTSC but it would be useful if there is a VGA one or a good way to do it,
any ideas
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Search for these kind of cables:
http://www.nextag.com/Cables-to-Go-25FT-61235427/prices-html?nxtg=28c70a1c052e-34FA18FCC0551E95
RGB to VGA
monkeyturnip said:
i know the TV out isto 3 phono, and can display in Pal or NTSC but it would be useful if there is a VGA one or a good way to do it,
any ideas
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I'm with you. I wanted to use a PC monitor for Remote Desktop control of a couple of PCs and servers with the TP2 (as I do with the Athena). Using the TP video out and converter cables will have the cables outweigh the phone by a factor of about 2 to 1.
I believe the output on the Blackstone is composite, not component in which case I don't think that would work.
Although you can get active converters to convert composite video to VGA/RGBHV, there will be a considerable loss of quality, especially in the fine detail. Basically, it will look very blurry.
There's plenty of them on Ebay, search for EXTUSB video , or "Touch pro video"
Yep, bought one of those composite/VGA converter boxes and can definitely confirm the loss of quality/bluriness. Also too bulky to carry around conveniently and requires a power supply. Hooked my Archos up yesterday (TP2 arrived today...!) just to remind myself, as it has the same screen res and also outputs via composite and apart from it being blurry, the image also flickers, which is quite annoying. Hadn't really noticed it before, cause it's not that noticable when watching video, but when viewing text or a presentation, that would be seriously off-putting! May just be my converter box, but thinking about the conversions the signal has to go through, I can't belive other converters are going to be much better.
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"Reqiures powersupply" ?
I cannot remeber that I used power supply with it, but yes, it does have a power-supply connector to allow charging while using tv-out.
Appologies, I was posting without properly referencing the post I was replying to.
I was relpying to crypticalpha's post, regarding composite to VGA converters. My converter box requires a powersupply in order to output a picture on the monitor/projector, else you can only get sound.
Since I have not yet held my TP2 in my hands, nor owned the TP1, I cannot comment on its TV out functionality.
I had assumed the phone itself would not be required to be connected to a power source, but it is actually good to hear that confirmed!
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i think this one does work. and its cheap aswell
http://cgi.benl.ebay.be/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=130310497614
I bought a HTC adaptor for charging & 3.5 headphones etc. Then I thought I'd be clever and save money and use a Nokia N95 TV out cable, but when I plug it in the TP2 sees it as Headphones.
Any ideas of how to get it working?
daveke0201 said:
i think this one does work. and its cheap aswell
http://cgi.benl.ebay.be/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=130310497614
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I can vouch for this being a good, cheap TV out cable; I bought it and it works well - the USB and 3.5mm jacks also work so you can plug a secondary sound source in or charge / sync it as well as using the TV out functionality.
One 'problem' though: using Core Player without the TV cable, the video playback is smooth as a baby's bum: with the TV out cable, it's slightly choppy. Is this to be expected or does anyone know how to improve video playback through TV cable? If so, it makes a great solution to travelling and being able to bring good TV and films with you on the phone!
Are there retail component cables available for TV out on an HTC device? If there aren't, is there a work around/DIY solution?VGA/S-Video/possibly HDMI....ANY ideas/ contributions are appreciated!
Seems to me it is a software issue and a cable one. The device can only put out NTSC/PAL. Composite video only requires one wire. Component would need 3. Where would the extra pins come from (in the USB connector)?
Wouldnt higher quality S-video still be possible though?
Not sure if this will work for you guys, but I used the multi-adapter that came with my Touch Pro2 and a 3.5mm jack to composite cable to get TV out from my TP2. Basically, it was a cable that came with my camcorder. I had to remove/cut the blue wire inside the multi-adapter to get it to work. It works automatically without additional software. I found the information from another poster at PPCGeeks.com. I would have provided a link, but since I'm a noob, this site would not allow me. Good luck. Hope this information helps.
Mossesman said:
Not sure if this will work for you guys, but I used the multi-adapter that came with my Touch Pro2 and a 3.5mm jack to composite cable to get TV out from my TP2. Basically, it was a cable that came with my camcorder. I had to remove/cut the blue wire inside the multi-adapter to get it to work. It works automatically without additional software. I found the information from another poster at PPCGeeks.com. I would have provided a link, but since I'm a noob, this site would not allow me. Good luck. Hope this information helps.
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Thanks for your response and yes this does work as I have been using this solution for about two months now and it's "okay" at best...I am still looking for something that would enable at least a "clean" 480p picture with every pixel cleanly represented without all the noise of the composite cables....
I am planning on getting a tv out cable from the following website as soon as my TP2 arrives (hopefully on tuesday):
http://shop.lab88.co.za/pL88OL-61/HTC-TV-Out-for-Pro--Pro-2.aspx
The cable sells for R188.00 approx. $25.00
They are the official importers of HTC devices in my country and their prices are very reasonable.
try sparkfun.com and search for 'extusb'. if you are feeling adventurous like me then go for the cheap one (style 1) otherwise go for the one with the breakout board. either way, its good fun but be prepared for anything. you should have a bit of knowledge on how to solder though. tried it myself and it worked but with all the bare wires hanging out of the video cable it's in a box somewhere in the garage, lol.
sorry about my lack of using the shift key, hehe
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BASSMANBOB said:
Thanks for your response and yes this does work as I have been using this solution for about two months now and it's "okay" at best...I am still looking for something that would enable at least a "clean" 480p picture with every pixel cleanly represented without all the noise of the composite cables....
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I'm not sure if that is possible since the output of the device is not digital. And even with a USB to composite cable, the data will still be in analog. Good luck with your search and please provide an update if you find anything. Thanks.
Im thinking "S-Video" would be achievable, no? Anyone have thoughts?
If you google for "composite-to-s-video" you get lots of little adapters for under $10, so it can obviously be done, but I doubt the video quality can improve. You also see decoders that cost $150.
If you look at the product description here
http://www.amazon.com/Dayton-SVC2-Jack-S-Video-Converter/dp/B0002KR7G8
it actually says the quality won't be better than the original composite.
It's a huge sight, but it is a better question to research over here:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/
I think component PAL output is created through hardware, as running video at the absolute highest quality without dropping frames still runs perfect(on the phone) when i click in the video output. if this was done in software then it would slow down the video.(tested with fast moving scenes at really high h264 bitrates in full res so it would be noticable)
The only way i can see it working is if you "somehow" send the screen output over a normal usb connection to an external device which then created the composit output. This would have to be done in software which would be slow and inefficent if it would even be possible at all. If your trying to say... play video at a higher quality then PAL along with software running in the background outputting to said device... well yeah it just wont happen.
What exactly are u trying to do? if its something other then video like presentation u might be able to set up a webserver on the phone(pretty sure there is already software to do this) and take screenshots(software to do this too) and generate webpages in a higher quality that u can see on a computer ect that can plug into a TV
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Im thinking "S-Video" would be achievable, no? Anyone have thoughts?
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it definatly could, get the av to svid adapter from radio shack or somewhere
im going to go out on a limb here and say most people still use tvs with RCA (red yellow white), over HDMI.. my galaxy s1, i can plug in my cord to the red yellow blue in the back of my tv, and into my headphone jack and play movies on my tv.. the galaxy s2 seems to be missing this feature.. is it there somewhere, or is it really gone?! why would they get rid of it.. is it because they added MHL? (something great, but something many wont be able to take advantage of)? i mean its not hurting anything by leaving it there.. it used to be in Settings>Display> TV Out ..why couldnt they just leave both.. they did that everywhere in the phone.. added picture editor and removed adjusting picture in the camera, added video editor and removed ability to pause video while recording.. wtf samsung... ihy
I agree, I wish they had kept both, but I guess it would have required more space and had to go for design reasons.
I disagree. If you can afford a £500 phone I don't think it's unreasonable for Samsung to assume you have a television with HDMI. After all, every TV made in the last 10 years supports the standard. I don't even have anything that outputs over composite cables any more.
For the rest of us, this is a step forward.
I agree with above post. RCA over my 55inch TV would look like crap.
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A better question in that case may be, why launch your flagship device without the cables to enable all the functionality you have advertised.
If you're on a 12 month contract, that feature is obviously not available to you for at least 1/12th of your term.......
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I disagree. If you can afford a £500 phone I don't think it's unreasonable for Samsung to assume you have a television with HDMI. After all, every TV made in the last 10 years supports the standard. I don't even have anything that outputs over composite cables any more.
For the rest of us, this is a step forward.
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Disagree.
Sure, I have an HD television, but I live in NZ and many others don't, so it would be nice to have the option because it offers versatility. Just because your use doesn't need it, doesn't mean that is true for others. Since when does moving forward with HDMI out connections neccessitate the removal of other options? The original GS Tab has both, and since SD Out shares an existing connector its a shame that the legacy connection option isn't available here. I suspect it simply wasn't possible to shoehorn it into the small shell on offer here, but that doesn't mean I can't be disappointed its not present, does it?
Its also far cheaper to get a TV Out cable for the 3.5mm jack, and its available now.
The output doesn't actually look too bad either - check out my youtube channel for some video examples of SGSI SD TV Out.
You can't really expect manufacturers to support all old standards forever. Eventually they just have to be dropped...
You can always use HDMI-to-component converters or something similar.
The official Samsung HDMI adapter doesn't look to be out for quite a while yet but there's one by BizLite over at Mobile Fun that should be in over the next fortnight (website says 9-14 days)
Cheaper than the official one too. Agreed that it's quite annoying having no TV-out on the 3.5mm jack!
rca adapter is nice because then we can hook it up in our cars.. but i guess you guys might not have screens in your car then =/
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rca adapter is nice because then we can hook it up in our cars.. but i guess you guys might not have screens in your car then =/
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Or might that good units have hdmi input anyway, so that's not such a big issue.
hey guys such a great forum here, I have hardware background and electronics edducation. close but not enough to figure this one out on my own. I an dreaming of using a usb camera from an old laptop inside this great tablet. I am sure there is a hope it can be done to the willing souls. I am willing to tinker and solder etc. that's what I like. I have a stereo speakers added great sound now. just wish for camera to be able to video chat.
I hope someone can get me clues how to start. thanks in advace.
From what I understand the problem is that the Nook cannot recognize the USB connected cam, but it can power the cam. I have heard about some people that use Wi-Fi enabled cams, and the tablet can see it.
I have seen people use cams that clip to the top of the Laptop, then plug into USB. This prompted a silly idea in my head.
I have heard of security cameras that transmit over Wi-fi, and Im picturing a setup that would basically be a security camera clamped to the top of the Nook, then powered from the USB. It would be a little odd, and take some research, but thats the Frankenstein monster type thing that I have so far.
Just my silly addition to the brainstorm.
only think it wont work to to use wifi to see camera and chat on wifi! I think. not portable.
I had always found NFC to be rather gimmicky. Nice to have, but not mandatory. Since getting my Lumia, I have actually discovered a whole different world of convenience that I never realized. Of course, I do have peripherals that take advantage of it, but that doesn't mean it wouldn't still be useful without them.
I have:
1) Nokia 360 Portable BT Speaker
2) Nokia BH-505 Headphones
3) BT Car stereo and NFC stickers
In the morning, I touch my Lumia 920 to my Nokia 360 Speaker and it turns it on, connects, and starts playing my music. I listen to the music while I'm getting ready for work. I ride my motorcycle to work, so when I'm ready to leave, I touch the Lumia to my BH-505 Headphones and the music stops playing on the 360 and starts playing on them. I put them on and ride to work.
When I get into my truck to drive somewhere, I touch the Lumia to a programmed NFC sticker on my dash and it connects to my stereo and starts playing music.
I plan to program a sticker at work as well and possibly one near my wireless charging stand. I never really noticed how annoying it was to manually go into Bluetooth settings and connect to each device until all I had to do was touch it to my phone. I now find NFC to be a very useful feature and one I would have a hard time going without.
The NFC on the Lumia 920 is highly excellent. Much better and smoother than the nfc on the Pureview 808
Where are you getting the NFC stickers from?
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greyhulk said:
I had always found NFC to be rather gimmicky. Nice to have, but not mandatory. Since getting my Lumia, I have actually discovered a whole different world of convenience that I never realized. Of course, I do have peripherals that take advantage of it, but that doesn't mean it wouldn't still be useful without them.
I have:
1) Nokia 360 Portable BT Speaker
2) Nokia BH-505 Headphones
3) BT Car stereo and NFC stickers
In the morning, I touch my Lumia 920 to my Nokia 360 Speaker and it turns it on, connects, and starts playing my music. I listen to the music while I'm getting ready for work. I ride my motorcycle to work, so when I'm ready to leave, I touch the Lumia to my BH-505 Headphones and the music stops playing on the 360 and starts playing on them. I put them on and ride to work.
When I get into my truck to drive somewhere, I touch the Lumia to a programmed NFC sticker on my dash and it connects to my stereo and starts playing music.
I plan to program a sticker at work as well and possibly one near my wireless charging stand. I never really noticed how annoying it was to manually go into Bluetooth settings and connect to each device until all I had to do was touch it to my phone. I now find NFC to be a very useful feature and one I would have a hard time going without.
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Please inform me how and where I can obtain those kind of NFC stickers for Windows phone. I could find a lot of NCF stickers available for Android phones on web.
wnandroid said:
Please inform me how and where I can obtain those kind of NFC stickers for Windows phone. I could find a lot of NCF stickers available for Android phones on web.
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The Android ones will also work for WP8. Actually all NFC stickers/tags will work with each other... with the exception of mifare (some phones support it, some don't.... lucky for us, WP8 does). Then there are Sony NFC tags/stickers which are of course proprietary, just the way they like everything.
I got one of those beginners kits from tagstand. Worth the money because I ended up getting 3 different sets of 5 tags. 1 set of 5 was the mifare type. I needed to use my wife's Android phone to format them before using them for the Lumia 920 (which can't format them. Win for Android? lol
Either way, as it stands, the abilities of the NFC tags are quite limited at the moment due to the restrictions that Microsoft had put upon WP8 for now. Auto-toggling is not available... so the best that a tag can do is bring up the settings screen for Wifi and Cell Data for toggling. Another issue that I have seem to have found is that WP8 only actions the first record on the tag. :-/ That part sucks big time since I would have to have a tag just to bring up the wifi settings screen then another just for cell data. I hope this opens up more, or someone creates an app to circumvent some of these issues.
as far as i heard apps cant change system settings. so its rather useless isnt it
LudoGris said:
Where are you getting the NFC stickers from?
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Amazon has them for fairly cheap.
wnandroid said:
Please inform me how and where I can obtain those kind of NFC stickers for Windows phone. I could find a lot of NCF stickers available for Android phones on web.
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They are all compatible. NFC stickers are NFC stickers. We have a program now for Windows Phone that lets us program them and they are universal. I'm not sure why the sellers limit their demographic by listing them as being for Android. Perhaps they're simply not aware that NFC exists in other phones.
The only limitation is that the stickers need to be pre-formated as WP8 cannot format them. found that out the hard way
is there a quick on-off-solution for NFC yet as it seems to be quite a battery drainer for me?
I was thinking something like connectivitiy shortcuts similar to WIFI .. ?
pencilcase said:
The only limitation is that the stickers need to be pre-formated as WP8 cannot format them. found that out the hard way
is there a quick on-off-solution for NFC yet as it seems to be quite a battery drainer for me?
I was thinking something like connectivitiy shortcuts similar to WIFI .. ?
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I just buy blank ones that are ready to be programmed. I didn't know you could even format them.
I used to leave NFC off all the time, especially after reading battery life threads here, but at some point it turned itself on again (probably after an update to some of the Nokia system apps) and I have been leaving it on. My battery life has been unchanged. I'm not convinced that NFC is the culprit. I literally leave NFC and BT on all the time now and my battery drain isn't noticeably faster than it was with them off.
what action are you writing to the tag to automatically pair the device with a BT accessory? i would really like to be able to do this but i haven't had the time to play around with the stickers i bought recently.
a short write up would be much appreciated
adiliyo said:
what action are you writing to the tag to automatically pair the device with a BT accessory? i would really like to be able to do this but i haven't had the time to play around with the stickers i bought recently.
a short write up would be much appreciated
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http://www.nfc-forum.org/specs/spec_list/
That's the technical spec for NFC
Some random code examples
http://fupeg.blogspot.com/2011/06/local-data-exchange-with-nfc-and.html
I wish
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I plan to program a sticker at work as well and possibly one near my wireless charging stand. I never really noticed how annoying it was to manually go into Bluetooth settings and connect to each device until all I had to do was touch it to my phone. I now find NFC to be a very useful feature and one I would have a hard time going without.
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I can't seem to coax this behavior. I do not have any Nokia accessories, but do like to connect and disconnect to my hearing aids. The best I can get is to tap the tag, then I have to allow the action, then bluetooth settings come on. Doesn't save much in the way of interaction for me. How are you say, just getting in your truck - tapping the tag and it automatically connects to the bluetooth in your truck and starts playing music? Or is the tag just starting the music playback, and the bluetooth connection has already been made because you are in range of the device. Please tell me more...What app are you using to program the tags, and what actions from it do the magic???
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I can't seem to coax this behavior. I do not have any Nokia accessories, but do like to connect and disconnect to my hearing aids. The best I can get is to tap the tag, then I have to allow the action, then bluetooth settings come on. Doesn't save much in the way of interaction for me. How are you say, just getting in your truck - tapping the tag and it automatically connects to the bluetooth in your truck and starts playing music? Or is the tag just starting the music playback, and the bluetooth connection has already been made because you are in range of the device. Please tell me more...What app are you using to program the tags, and what actions from it do the magic???
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I may have gotten ahead of myself. I haven't actually programmed any of my NFC stickers yet (haven't had time), so it may not work the way I want it to.
However, both the 360 speaker and headphones automatically turn on, pair, and start playing whatever music is currently playing on my phone, so I would think that would be possible. Unless the peripherals get some kind of special permissions that general NFC does not, which is possible, since I have read that you can't program NFC to turn your BT or Wifi on and off, only take you to the settings menu.
that's why i was wondering how you got it to work, NFC implementation in wp8 currently is almost completely useless and its faster to use an app that pins BT settings to your start screen.
hopefully they change it in an update though, until then, i'll use my android to play with NFC i guess.
adiliyo said:
NFC implementation in wp8 currently is almost completely useless and its faster to use an app that pins BT settings to your start screen. hopefully they change it in an update though.....
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Absolutely right, so please visit the page for WP feature suggestions and vote for "NFC tagg system changes"
hxxp://windowsphone.uservoice.com/forums/101801-feature-suggestions/suggestions/3088478-nfc-tagg-system-changes
They ask to "Add NFC options to change many settings at once when you tap nfc tags. E.x. At office nfc tag (data off, wi-fi on, volume 5, brightness high...), at bedroom tag (data off,wi-fi on, vibration, brightness low,...).."
I had to change http to hxxp to post that link, sry, but I'm new here.
thanks for the link, i'll be sure to go there
greyhulk said:
I had always found NFC to be rather gimmicky. Nice to have, but not mandatory. Since getting my Lumia, I have actually discovered a whole different world of convenience that I never realized. Of course, I do have peripherals that take advantage of it, but that doesn't mean it wouldn't still be useful without them.
I have:
1) Nokia 360 Portable BT Speaker
2) Nokia BH-505 Headphones
3) BT Car stereo and NFC stickers
In the morning, I touch my Lumia 920 to my Nokia 360 Speaker and it turns it on, connects, and starts playing my music. I listen to the music while I'm getting ready for work. I ride my motorcycle to work, so when I'm ready to leave, I touch the Lumia to my BH-505 Headphones and the music stops playing on the 360 and starts playing on them. I put them on and ride to work.
When I get into my truck to drive somewhere, I touch the Lumia to a programmed NFC sticker on my dash and it connects to my stereo and starts playing music.
I plan to program a sticker at work as well and possibly one near my wireless charging stand. I never really noticed how annoying it was to manually go into Bluetooth settings and connect to each device until all I had to do was touch it to my phone. I now find NFC to be a very useful feature and one I would have a hard time going without.
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Did you have to do anything special to get NFC to work with the 505's? I didn't even realize my 505's had NFC (Since I got them long before I got the 920) and sure enough when I tapped them together I got the NFC pairing tune, but nothing happened. I tried it having my phone stream BT to a music receiver and then tapped the 505's to it and it didn't switch over. I checked under the Nokia accessories section under setting and no devices show up. Thanks!