Upgrade ROM with MS Vista - 8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin

Hi .
I'm planning on upgrading the rom on my MDA Vario II (Dutch).
First I want to unlock the CID. I've got a 1.04 bootloader.
Recently I upgraded to MS Vista (RTM).
When I try to run the patched radio upgrade I always get a ERROR 150.
Yes.. I'm in bootloader mode. It's says IPL-1.01 and HERM300 SPL-1.04.
Could it be Vista??

yes its vista its had something to do with the sync tool in vista they will fix it according to a earlier post next time use the search function there is a thread about Vista and Ruu

I don't think they have released Mobile Device Center for Vista RTM yet... Right now, you see the phone as a drive... Or did you install the beta MDC?

both. I access the phone through the explorer. And I have the beta MDC setup for syncing with outlook etc.

This has been posted a million times, but here we go...upgrading ROMs will not work on Vista until manufactuers update their usb driver code on the installer; until then, use XP/2003. By the way, is that pirated Vista you have?

cant he just upgrade the rom from SD? I have a (legit) final of vista, but havent tested it yet, since i dont see the need for an uprade atm.
I have the Mobile Device Center installed and it all works perfect.
So, if you cannot do it, due to a bug in Vista, maybe the SD works

You have to be careful as if the program crashes during the upgrade of the rom you can brick your device, so I will stay with XP or SD card way to flash a rom.

aquasesh said:
cant he just upgrade the rom from SD? I have a (legit) final of vista, but havent tested it yet, since i dont see the need for an uprade atm.
I have the Mobile Device Center installed and it all works perfect.
So, if you cannot do it, due to a bug in Vista, maybe the SD works
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I have Vista RTM and I confirm that the MDC is not stable enough for all these update work... it failed for me a few times and I'm lucky with my 8525 and it is still working OK after reflashing it with another PC (XP).

Aha. That explains that.
I've just managed to get my JasJar stuck in bootloader mode after trying many times to upgrade the ROM. This, despite the upgrade tools telling me there are errors.
Curses.

Apparently people don't know how to read what I posted...

ITS SAFE
I already flashed my Universal with Vista
-First need to install MDC, could be beta from MSDN, because it will update.(still don't know why it's not included on RTM)
-Run compability mode WIN XPSP2
-Run as Adm
thats it...

ISN'T Safe!
phamoui said:
I already flashed my Universal with Vista
-First need to install MDC, could be beta from MSDN, because it will update.(still don't know why it's not included on RTM)
-Run compability mode WIN XPSP2
-Run as Adm
thats it...
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I am testing vista since CTP (Community Technology Preview), then RC1 (Release Candidate), RC2, now RTM (Ready To Market) as Technet Plus Member.
I can't say is safe to use it even for day by day syncing, I have always unpredictable results; my TyTn sometimes is a Smartphone, sometimes Pocket PC, syncing? may be, every time you connect you have to guess...
This happens because Windows Mobile Device Center (WMDC not included in Vista RTM) is still in BETA 3 stage, not even RC!
LESSON LEARNED
If you plan to install VISTA and you are a WM expert or just business user DON'T upgrade your XP, just install VISTA on a second HD and use your XP to solve the VISTA problems. Even Virtual PC 2007 (good to have with XP installed to have available some appz still not VISTA upgraded) couldn't use USB port, so no way to have a safe "old style" USB connection
Isn't VISTA fault, is a new tecnologies-early adopters problem
One of the most common source of problems with vista are USB drivers (no way in my knowledge to have a simple webcam working with VISTA)
This has great importance when you are doing something "uncommon" and "mission critical" like flashing something!

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Upgrades using VISTA

I am in an all VISTA house...
Has anyone found a way to upgrade using vista as of yet?
The information and driver located at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=291723 works for me in doing a mtty upgrade. As for doing an entire ROM update using the full utility, I don't know... MTTY is faster, thus why I do it.
My problem is with my Cingular 8525 I need to first flash to a previous rom.
Need to use the EXE to do that and that USB driver appears to ONLY work with RUU or MTTY.
rgreenpc said:
I am in an all VISTA house...
Has anyone found a way to upgrade using vista as of yet?
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It would be ALOT safer to not brick your device, it you dual-booted your PC and had XP available. I wouldn't want to take a chance on bricking device unless I REALLY had too, dual boot is not that hard.
Sadly... you can't install XP after VISTA because of changes to the bootloaders that Vista Uses.... you can do XP then Vista but not vice versa.
Learned this the hard way during the beta.
rgreenpc said:
Sadly... you can't install XP after VISTA because of changes to the bootloaders that Vista Uses.... you can do XP then Vista but not vice versa.
Learned this the hard way during the beta.
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Good to know if I get ahold of Vista.
Good news... my sister-in-law still hasn't used the upgrade to VISTA that I got her, so I guess I can at least roll bacK, SuperCID, then flash to the new rom.
That way I can use POF's new v3 unlocker later when someone comes up with a magic WM6.
The one thing I hope is that the programmers out here do get their hands on VISTA as more and more people are going to get PCs that come with Vista on them and will have little choice to use it.
I am just glad I was able to do this for now....
The final version of Windows Mobile Device Center has been released and I have not had any issues doing ROM updates with the final version.
Secondly, you can use a utility call Easy BCD to modify the Windows Vista bootloader so that you can dual boot Windows XP on a computer that already has Windows Vista installed. You just install Windows XP on a separate partiotion from Vista. The computer will then only boot to Windows XP. Put the Windows Vista DVD in and do a repair and the PC will now just boot into Vista. You can then run the Easy BCD tool in Vista and tell it where you installed XP and it will modify the bootloader so that Windows XP will show up in the boot menu. The bootloader changes can also be done manually but the utility is much simplier (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/919529)
The link to the Easy BCD software is: http://neosmart.net/dl.php?id=1
rkorzuch said:
The final version of Windows Mobile Device Center has been released and I have not had any issues doing ROM updates with the final version.
Secondly, you can use a utility call Easy BCD to modify the Windows Vista bootloader so that you can dual boot Windows XP on a computer that already has Windows Vista installed. You just install Windows XP on a separate partiotion from Vista. The computer will then only boot to Windows XP. Put the Windows Vista DVD in and do a repair and the PC will now just boot into Vista. You can then run the Easy BCD tool in Vista and tell it where you installed XP and it will modify the bootloader so that Windows XP will show up in the boot menu. The bootloader changes can also be done manually but the utility is much simplier (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/919529)
The link to the Easy BCD software is: http://neosmart.net/dl.php?id=1
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Are you saying that you have done ROM updates in Vista through WMDC Final? I tried this but it did not work. If you have done it then I may try again.
rkorzuch said:
The final version of Windows Mobile Device Center has been released and I have not had any issues doing ROM updates with the final version.
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Perhaps I need to look at it again then... when I tried it I had no luck.
I don't want the hassle of modifying windows if I dont have to.
What updates have you done with WMDC?
@rgreen: if you're keen on buying everyone vista, i'll take a copy

how to... on windows vista?

how possible is to do the upgrade thing over windows vista?
i did had same prob with HimaUpgradeUt not detecting pocket when i tryed to upgrade with beta version of activesynch 4.5 on the previous windows xp.... right now i use my syster's xp machine (during the idle time, of course ) to do this operations.. but its prety anoying!
is there any trick? or HimaUpgradeUt will be updated for vista compatibility?
thanks alot for the amazing forum, the amazing help!
Do you think I have the same issue ?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=307828
яι¢αя∂σ said:
how possible is to do the upgrade thing over windows vista?
i did had same prob with HimaUpgradeUt not detecting pocket when i tryed to upgrade with beta version of activesynch 4.5 on the previous windows xp.... right now i use my syster's xp machine (during the idle time, of course ) to do this operations.. but its prety anoying!
is there any trick? or HimaUpgradeUt will be updated for vista compatibility?
thanks alot for the amazing forum, the amazing help!
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i tried but still not working on vista...
guess must be a thing from some win vista api! now i'm back to WinXP because i use lots of other progs for mobile that not work properly under winVista...
marcjero:
is your machine with win vista also?
as you said that you tryed to install ActiveSync 3.8, 4.2, 4.5, guess its WinXP. if its 2000/WinXP/win2003 then use only 4.2 version of ActiveSync. don't know why but i can only have sucess with that version. check for any security software that may block COM. with ActiveSync-Pocketpc.
that HimaUpgradeUt.exe you use is for your model? as im not an expert on this matter, don't know if your precise phone is a himalaya, maybe thats the prob. ehehhe then maybe not as im not aware of all the brands this peace of tech can became!
do right click on my computer and select manage, goto device manager and see for a mobile entry there, while your pocket is connected in serial boot mode. there must be a windows ce device there for this to happen, and you should, not a must, but try to shut activesynch down while doing this detection with HimaUpgradeUt
edit: but hey, nice for the replys! thanks!
sorry but i have to locked this thread to avoid redundant thread...
please continue HERE!
Thanks!
jojo

Custom Roms with Vista

I recall reading that the software for unlocking/flashing custom roms was for XP only. Is there a solid, working solution for Vista yet? If not, is anyone planning to make one?
How does activesynch work with vista & outlook 2k7? Any downsides to upgrading?
Might have been problems with Vista 64, I'm running Vista 32 and have never had a problem with custom roms.
Im a vista user and never had any problems, i never read too much into it but from what i understand its because they dont update their drivers. Someone posted the driver update in this section. Ive tried dcd's and currently using no2chems latest.
Using Vista
I use Vista on my laptop and have been experimenting with the HTC Titan since mid December.
So far, I never had an issue with Vista ( and I have experimented lots!!)
The only thing with Vista on my phone compared to my XP desktop at work is that the transfer of files to the HTC is must faster with XP. The XP machine also connects and syncs a bit faster than the Vista.
I can confirm that running Titan_Unlocker, and loading ROMs via Vista 32 with Windows Mobile Device Center works just fine.
Vista USB
I have not been able to connect with USB on my computer runing vista. I use of course windows mobile device and connect thru bluetooth, but have never been able to connect with usb. I checked the setting I WMB and have allow usb connection,.
I can tell you from experience that flashing thru bluetooth boes not work. Tried it about a year age with the Vzw upgrade on my 6700, locked up in bootloader screen, I took it to vzw and they gave me a new 6700.
That's odd ^
My Sync works both ways, and out does XP in every single way.
Vista performance depends on hardware mostly, and top notch gets you top performance.
I haven't had any problems syncing with vista.
I did have one problem when trying to upgrade to a custom rom and maybe someone here can help me answer it.
I got the sprint 3.16 test rom on there ok, then i installed the unlocker, but i couldn't get out of bootloader screen. I had the exit bootloader program but it kept saying it couldn't find the usb. then i tried attaching it to my xp comp and running the exit bootloader app and it said it was missing some dll file. so i tried redownloading and even emailing the exit bootloader from my other comp but same issue, missing dll file.
I ended up just loading the relocker and then going straight back to the latest rom because i couldn't figure it out.

How to Upgrade WM6.1 using Vista?

Please HELP...
You should be fine to upgrade. I've upgraded my Hermes on Vista and it went perfectly fine (unless it's different for the Atom which i doubt it would be). Just connect the device to your computer, have your device parteredup with the computer, and run the RUU.
Use a virtual machine software and install XP on it.
I don´t use vista but many persons stated that it isn´t working on it right now, but guess it depends on what software or rom for the upgrade.
cheers
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I bricked my 6828 on vista
Tolay said:
I bricked my 6828 on vista
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I don't see how, as the main problem with flashing a device (the Atom/HP6800 anyway) is that it can't properly communicate with the PDA due to a driver issue. I've tried a Vista driver listed on this forum somewhere, but didn't really help the problem too much.. Your best bet would be to grab Virtual PC and setup an XP install under it.
On Vista & WinXP same error: Download target not found! after a few minutes.
My device: O2 Xda Atom.
OS: Vista and WinXP

[Q] HTC TITAN the problem of detecting

Hi, first of all I would like to apologize for my English.
After installing this ROM dynamics7 2.0 ZUNE longer detect my phone. I tried to reset the phone but it did not work. The USB cable is definitely good because he installed the ROM.
I tried different roms but it did not work. Trying on another computer or do not give. The phone is not detected by the Zune. mistake can be seen in the computer drivers. the system can not retrieve them. I will add that the installation of Roma do not have any problems.
What could it be?
freebo21 said:
Hi, first of all I would like to apologize for my English.
After installing this ROM dynamics7 2.0 ZUNE longer detect my phone. I tried to reset the phone but it did not work. The USB cable is definitely good because he installed the ROM.
I tried different roms but it did not work. Trying on another computer or do not give. The phone is not detected by the Zune. mistake can be seen in the computer drivers. the system can not retrieve them. I will add that the installation of Roma do not have any problems.
What could it be?
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Restart the device in bootloader mode and look for the word "serial" to change to "USB". If so, you have a connection to your PC
berrywr said:
Restart the device in bootloader mode and look for the word "serial" to change to "USB". If so, you have a connection to your PC
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It's not that but thanks. Loading a bootloader mode by rom without any problem.
Zune does not detect my phone when connected nothing happens. I'm only in device manager two errors:
1.The Windows has stopped this device because of the reported problems. (Code 43)
2.driver this device are not installed. (Code 28)
To find a driver for this device, click Update Driver.
Please help because I do not know what to do with this phone.
I think that when I go into a different mode vol-+ power zune starts but displays an error (the device can not be restored to a previous version)
Of course, before installing custom roms I did not have this problem.
freebo21 said:
It's not that but thanks. Loading a bootloader mode by rom without any problem.
Zune does not detect my phone when connected nothing happens. I'm only in device manager two errors:
1.The Windows has stopped this device because of the reported problems. (Code 43)
2.driver this device are not installed. (Code 28)
To find a driver for this device, click Update Driver.
Please help because I do not know what to do with this phone.
I think that when I go into a different mode vol-+ power zune starts but displays an error (the device can not be restored to a previous version)
Of course, before installing custom roms I did not have this problem.
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What is your Zune version number and OS version?
berrywr said:
What is your Zune version number and OS version?
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Zune is the latest version from the download of microsoft (4.8.2345.0). zune is installed on Windows 8 I would add that before the original ROM (before flashing custo rom) everything worked. I tried on another computer without success. I have uploaded a clean Tango, without effect.
freebo21 said:
Zune is the latest version from the download of microsoft (4.8.2345.0). zune is installed on Windows 8 I would add that before the original ROM (before flashing custo rom) everything worked. I tried on another computer without success. I have uploaded a clean Tango, without effect.
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What about putting your phone in bootloader mode and will it read USB below when connected to pc?
bery you dont get it man have problem syncing the titan with zune, go to your ROM thread and read all, thats the only solution or use google
nikola92 said:
bery you dont get it man have problem syncing the titan with zune, go to your ROM thread and read all, thats the only solution or use google
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I've inserted a correction here...I restarted by device in bootloader mode and plugged it into my laptop; Zune did not start; however, the letters "USB" do appear in the center-bottom. Rest of post remains the same...You may view your device from your PC's File/Windows Explorer by changing 3 zune driver entries via your PC registry editor and when the device is on wi-fi, you may also view other folders that are on your windows phone. My PC is running Windows 8 Professional. It is important to check if your computer and its drivers are compatible with what you're attempting to do. I don't use Zune for my multi-media copying to and from my device. I use the professional version of Windows for it's easier compatibility such was WMDC 64-bit. I don't pretend to know whether I get, don't get, have or do not have your problem; what I do know is leave no stone unturned; double check everything on your PC for compatibility...are all your drivers updated for example. I have an older 32-bit Dell Inspiron E-1505 I upgraded to 4 GB RAM and upgraded it from XP to Windows 7 Enterprise Edition (not Home Premium) and from time to time whether it was my device or my Win 8 PC; sometimes they wouldn't play nice, thus I have the same setup on my Win 7 machine and if that didn't work; pull out my Hiren's Boot Mini XP Thumb drive and enjoy some old school computing; maybe I don't get it, where I'm from, we call it Plan B...improvise!
berrywr said:
Your phone uses both Zune and WMDC when you are in Bootloader mode. You may view your device from your PC's File/Windows Explorer by changing 3 zune driver entries via your PC registry editor and when the device is on wi-fi, you may also view other folders that are on your windows phone. My PC is running Windows 8 Professional. It is important to check if your computer and its drivers are compatible with what you're attempting to do. I don't use Zune for my multi-media copying to and from my device. I use the professional version of Windows for it's easier compatibility such was WMDC 64-bit. I don't pretend to know whether I get, don't get, have or do not have your problem; what I do know is leave no stone unturned; double check everything on your PC for compatibility...are all your drivers updated for example. I have an older 32-bit Dell Inspiron E-1505 I upgraded to 4 GB RAM and upgraded it from XP to Windows 7 Enterprise Edition (not Home Premium) and from time to time whether it was my device or my Win 8 PC; sometimes they wouldn't play nice, thus I have the same setup on my Win 7 machine and if that didn't work; pull out my Hiren's Boot Mini XP Thumb drive and enjoy some old school computing; maybe I don't get it, where I'm from, we call it Plan B...improvise!
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I tried on windows 7 pro 64 bit and win 7 home premium. It did not work. In bootloader mode to install the drivers successfully but the Zune does not detect the phone in this mode. Including the phone in normal mode, the driver installation error pops up device not recognized. Zune without the driver does not detect the phone. Previously the phone was detected under the name HTC Titan X310 is now htc eternity.
please help
I have exactly the same problem. Please help: (
vakos8 said:
I have exactly the same problem. Please help: (
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I'm running Windows 8 Pro on my desktop; both WMDC and Zune will run when I plug my Titan into the laptop; by that I mean I'm at my Start Menu and Tiles; not Bootloader or USB Host Mode. I know that because the HTC Titan appears twice in my File Explorer on my laptop. Though my device is HSPL, I did restart my device in bootloader mode and plugged it into my laptop; it did not start Zune but it did read USB center-bottom. I may in due time get me another Titan I to play with but there's no way I'm risking my device to any further experimentation now that she's unlocked all the way and running 7.8 and runs as smooth as a baby's butt.
berrywr said:
I'm running Windows 8 Pro on my desktop; both WMDC and Zune will run when I plug my Titan into the laptop; by that I mean I'm at my Start Menu and Tiles; not Bootloader or USB Host Mode. I know that because the HTC Titan appears twice in my File Explorer on my laptop. Though my device is HSPL, I did restart my device in bootloader mode and plugged it into my laptop; it did not start Zune but it did read USB center-bottom. I may in due time get me another Titan I to play with but there's no way I'm risking my device to any further experimentation now that she's unlocked all the way and running 7.8 and runs as smooth as a baby's butt.
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Does anyone have any ideas what it could be? Please help solve the problem.
freebo21 said:
Does anyone have any ideas what it could be? Please help solve the problem.
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This may or may not help...I don't have my W8 laptop with me now...but there is an option in Windows that lets Windows search for the driver through WIndows Update...and it will automatically install it from the internet?
Is windows update checked to automatically search and download / install new updates?
HTC TITAN
xconomicron said:
This may or may not help...I don't have my W8 laptop with me now...but there is an option in Windows that lets Windows search for the driver through WIndows Update...and it will automatically install it from the internet?
Is windows update checked to automatically search and download / install new updates?
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help someone? Zune still does not see the phone. The system can not install the driver why are these problems (it does not recognize the phone)
Did not you guys try to play with USB to Video function? If yes - switch it off and reboot.
HTC TITAN
AndrewSh said:
Did not you guys try to play with USB to Video function? If yes - switch it off and reboot.
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It's not possible. Windows does not recognize the phone. Install different ROM and nothing. Even on a clean TANGO same
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Hy every Body,
I have the same problem , and i know one other person with the same problem !!
This default appears with the Rom Deepshinnig V2 (The DeepShining v2 Works Well). After I have flash with 3 different roms, the stock rom tango and the last Eburon 7.8 Rom (in use now). But i still can't connect My titan on diferents Computers where Mozart connect normally.
I can't Switch Usb Video Out
Thanks alls for ideas or directions to follow !!
Domipasc
problem
help someone?
domipasc said:
Hy every Body,
I have the same problem , and i know one other person with the same problem !!
This default appears with the Rom Deepshinnig V2 (The DeepShining v2 Works Well). After I have flash with 3 different roms, the stock rom tango and the last Eburon 7.8 Rom (in use now). But i still can't connect My titan on diferents Computers where Mozart connect normally.
I can't Switch Usb Video Out
Thanks alls for ideas or directions to follow !!
Domipasc
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you have a very old rom. dotcompt came out with V3 awhile back. other than that I havent used usb video out.
xconomicron said:
you have a very old rom. dotcompt came out with V3 awhile back. other than that I havent used usb video out.
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I've never used the Dynamic ROMs but I can't stand using Zune so I tweaked my registry to make my Titan visible via Windows/File Explorer, I'm curious as to whether any of you with this problem can connect your devices to the developer tools with Windows Phone 7.x for side loading apps.

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