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Hi .
I'm planning on upgrading the rom on my MDA Vario II (Dutch).
First I want to unlock the CID. I've got a 1.04 bootloader.
Recently I upgraded to MS Vista (RTM).
When I try to run the patched radio upgrade I always get a ERROR 150.
Yes.. I'm in bootloader mode. It's says IPL-1.01 and HERM300 SPL-1.04.
Could it be Vista??
yes its vista its had something to do with the sync tool in vista they will fix it according to a earlier post next time use the search function there is a thread about Vista and Ruu
I don't think they have released Mobile Device Center for Vista RTM yet... Right now, you see the phone as a drive... Or did you install the beta MDC?
both. I access the phone through the explorer. And I have the beta MDC setup for syncing with outlook etc.
This has been posted a million times, but here we go...upgrading ROMs will not work on Vista until manufactuers update their usb driver code on the installer; until then, use XP/2003. By the way, is that pirated Vista you have?
cant he just upgrade the rom from SD? I have a (legit) final of vista, but havent tested it yet, since i dont see the need for an uprade atm.
I have the Mobile Device Center installed and it all works perfect.
So, if you cannot do it, due to a bug in Vista, maybe the SD works
You have to be careful as if the program crashes during the upgrade of the rom you can brick your device, so I will stay with XP or SD card way to flash a rom.
aquasesh said:
cant he just upgrade the rom from SD? I have a (legit) final of vista, but havent tested it yet, since i dont see the need for an uprade atm.
I have the Mobile Device Center installed and it all works perfect.
So, if you cannot do it, due to a bug in Vista, maybe the SD works
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I have Vista RTM and I confirm that the MDC is not stable enough for all these update work... it failed for me a few times and I'm lucky with my 8525 and it is still working OK after reflashing it with another PC (XP).
Aha. That explains that.
I've just managed to get my JasJar stuck in bootloader mode after trying many times to upgrade the ROM. This, despite the upgrade tools telling me there are errors.
Curses.
Apparently people don't know how to read what I posted...
ITS SAFE
I already flashed my Universal with Vista
-First need to install MDC, could be beta from MSDN, because it will update.(still don't know why it's not included on RTM)
-Run compability mode WIN XPSP2
-Run as Adm
thats it...
ISN'T Safe!
phamoui said:
I already flashed my Universal with Vista
-First need to install MDC, could be beta from MSDN, because it will update.(still don't know why it's not included on RTM)
-Run compability mode WIN XPSP2
-Run as Adm
thats it...
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I am testing vista since CTP (Community Technology Preview), then RC1 (Release Candidate), RC2, now RTM (Ready To Market) as Technet Plus Member.
I can't say is safe to use it even for day by day syncing, I have always unpredictable results; my TyTn sometimes is a Smartphone, sometimes Pocket PC, syncing? may be, every time you connect you have to guess...
This happens because Windows Mobile Device Center (WMDC not included in Vista RTM) is still in BETA 3 stage, not even RC!
LESSON LEARNED
If you plan to install VISTA and you are a WM expert or just business user DON'T upgrade your XP, just install VISTA on a second HD and use your XP to solve the VISTA problems. Even Virtual PC 2007 (good to have with XP installed to have available some appz still not VISTA upgraded) couldn't use USB port, so no way to have a safe "old style" USB connection
Isn't VISTA fault, is a new tecnologies-early adopters problem
One of the most common source of problems with vista are USB drivers (no way in my knowledge to have a simple webcam working with VISTA)
This has great importance when you are doing something "uncommon" and "mission critical" like flashing something!
I am in an all VISTA house...
Has anyone found a way to upgrade using vista as of yet?
The information and driver located at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=291723 works for me in doing a mtty upgrade. As for doing an entire ROM update using the full utility, I don't know... MTTY is faster, thus why I do it.
My problem is with my Cingular 8525 I need to first flash to a previous rom.
Need to use the EXE to do that and that USB driver appears to ONLY work with RUU or MTTY.
rgreenpc said:
I am in an all VISTA house...
Has anyone found a way to upgrade using vista as of yet?
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It would be ALOT safer to not brick your device, it you dual-booted your PC and had XP available. I wouldn't want to take a chance on bricking device unless I REALLY had too, dual boot is not that hard.
Sadly... you can't install XP after VISTA because of changes to the bootloaders that Vista Uses.... you can do XP then Vista but not vice versa.
Learned this the hard way during the beta.
rgreenpc said:
Sadly... you can't install XP after VISTA because of changes to the bootloaders that Vista Uses.... you can do XP then Vista but not vice versa.
Learned this the hard way during the beta.
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Good to know if I get ahold of Vista.
Good news... my sister-in-law still hasn't used the upgrade to VISTA that I got her, so I guess I can at least roll bacK, SuperCID, then flash to the new rom.
That way I can use POF's new v3 unlocker later when someone comes up with a magic WM6.
The one thing I hope is that the programmers out here do get their hands on VISTA as more and more people are going to get PCs that come with Vista on them and will have little choice to use it.
I am just glad I was able to do this for now....
The final version of Windows Mobile Device Center has been released and I have not had any issues doing ROM updates with the final version.
Secondly, you can use a utility call Easy BCD to modify the Windows Vista bootloader so that you can dual boot Windows XP on a computer that already has Windows Vista installed. You just install Windows XP on a separate partiotion from Vista. The computer will then only boot to Windows XP. Put the Windows Vista DVD in and do a repair and the PC will now just boot into Vista. You can then run the Easy BCD tool in Vista and tell it where you installed XP and it will modify the bootloader so that Windows XP will show up in the boot menu. The bootloader changes can also be done manually but the utility is much simplier (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/919529)
The link to the Easy BCD software is: http://neosmart.net/dl.php?id=1
rkorzuch said:
The final version of Windows Mobile Device Center has been released and I have not had any issues doing ROM updates with the final version.
Secondly, you can use a utility call Easy BCD to modify the Windows Vista bootloader so that you can dual boot Windows XP on a computer that already has Windows Vista installed. You just install Windows XP on a separate partiotion from Vista. The computer will then only boot to Windows XP. Put the Windows Vista DVD in and do a repair and the PC will now just boot into Vista. You can then run the Easy BCD tool in Vista and tell it where you installed XP and it will modify the bootloader so that Windows XP will show up in the boot menu. The bootloader changes can also be done manually but the utility is much simplier (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/919529)
The link to the Easy BCD software is: http://neosmart.net/dl.php?id=1
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Are you saying that you have done ROM updates in Vista through WMDC Final? I tried this but it did not work. If you have done it then I may try again.
rkorzuch said:
The final version of Windows Mobile Device Center has been released and I have not had any issues doing ROM updates with the final version.
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Perhaps I need to look at it again then... when I tried it I had no luck.
I don't want the hassle of modifying windows if I dont have to.
What updates have you done with WMDC?
@rgreen: if you're keen on buying everyone vista, i'll take a copy
how possible is to do the upgrade thing over windows vista?
i did had same prob with HimaUpgradeUt not detecting pocket when i tryed to upgrade with beta version of activesynch 4.5 on the previous windows xp.... right now i use my syster's xp machine (during the idle time, of course ) to do this operations.. but its prety anoying!
is there any trick? or HimaUpgradeUt will be updated for vista compatibility?
thanks alot for the amazing forum, the amazing help!
Do you think I have the same issue ?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=307828
яι¢αя∂σ said:
how possible is to do the upgrade thing over windows vista?
i did had same prob with HimaUpgradeUt not detecting pocket when i tryed to upgrade with beta version of activesynch 4.5 on the previous windows xp.... right now i use my syster's xp machine (during the idle time, of course ) to do this operations.. but its prety anoying!
is there any trick? or HimaUpgradeUt will be updated for vista compatibility?
thanks alot for the amazing forum, the amazing help!
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i tried but still not working on vista...
guess must be a thing from some win vista api! now i'm back to WinXP because i use lots of other progs for mobile that not work properly under winVista...
marcjero:
is your machine with win vista also?
as you said that you tryed to install ActiveSync 3.8, 4.2, 4.5, guess its WinXP. if its 2000/WinXP/win2003 then use only 4.2 version of ActiveSync. don't know why but i can only have sucess with that version. check for any security software that may block COM. with ActiveSync-Pocketpc.
that HimaUpgradeUt.exe you use is for your model? as im not an expert on this matter, don't know if your precise phone is a himalaya, maybe thats the prob. ehehhe then maybe not as im not aware of all the brands this peace of tech can became!
do right click on my computer and select manage, goto device manager and see for a mobile entry there, while your pocket is connected in serial boot mode. there must be a windows ce device there for this to happen, and you should, not a must, but try to shut activesynch down while doing this detection with HimaUpgradeUt
edit: but hey, nice for the replys! thanks!
sorry but i have to locked this thread to avoid redundant thread...
please continue HERE!
Thanks!
jojo
Hi,
Just wanted to know if wm6 upgrading works fine on vista and sync centre? I've been upgrading on xp, but just wanted to know about vista as well..
Thanks,
James.
i think no you must do it with xp
I did a success upgrade to WM6 on my Prophet with Windows Vista with Sync Center a couple of days ago.
Vista is supported for upgrade in the official rom .
The first time I did an upgrade to a PDAViet rom it was successful in vista. I tried on vista 32
On Vista x32 it's possible with some focus but on vista x64 forget. I'm use vista x64 and when I wont install new wm6 i am going on windows XP!
under vista 32bit it is possible, but not under vista 64bit. afaik some of the flash tools are 16bit applications and these don't work on a 64bit OS.
I have vista ultimate build 6000 32bit i tried the vista upgrade guide on this site but still my RUU crashes..................
something which can help but with without any warranty:
install vmware and set up a virtual windows xp machine on your vista system.
the newest vmware allows to intercept all new plugged-in usb devices to let them appear within the vmware.
with this i could connect my prophet to activesync within that VM.
but it always aborted the flash procedure at 80%
Fady said:
I have vista ultimate build 6000 32bit i tried the vista upgrade guide on this site but still my RUU crashes..................
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I cann't explain, but some ROM do and others don't. For instance a have a NVID RUU that works well, but the famous Step 1 files from PDAViet an Mobis don't work at all.
it never worked with me, am using Vista Ultimate 32 bit and there is something mentioned on www.mahmood1.com about having to change a driver and restart a service, but no luck at all....i also tried VMware and i could only use step1 but Step2 did not even start!!
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it never worked with me, am using Vista Ultimate 32 bit and there is something mentioned on www.mahmood1.com about having to change a driver and restart a service, but no luck at all....i also tried VMware and i could only use step1 but Step2 did not even start!!
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In my experience, Step 2 is no problem under Vista, but I can't get step 1 done. Not even with the drivertrick. An other NVID Ruu worked though.
I have no experience or knowledge of VMware you mentioned... what (and where) is that?
I have Vista ULTIMATE X64. I cant do nothing... Looks like stuff working only on XP.
Fantazmas said:
I have Vista ULTIMATE X64. I cant do nothing... Looks like stuff working only on XP.
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At least the beer is right....
Icant get to work the RUU on VIsta
Icant get to work the RUU on VIsta. It gives error 260. unable to connect onece the bootscreen appears. Any way around?
jugulator said:
Icant get to work the RUU on VIsta. It gives error 260. unable to connect onece the bootscreen appears. Any way around?
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not that I know off, would be a breakthrough. I figured out (just by trying) that the RUU is not the problem itself, its the nb file that isn't always compatible. If I find more solid an workable information/solution ofcourse I let it know.
I would also like the PDAViet 4.0.0.0.6 Touch, but I must be dumb - because I cant get anything to work.
1. Tried with Vista
a. Works up until USB RUU mode - Vista cant see the XDA
b. Got told to forget trying with Vista
2. Tried with Windows XP cannot detect the PDA
a. Used the RNDIS-USB-Kit_05 - no instructions or doesnt work
3. Tried unlocking the SIM - my number appeared as Wingdings
4. Tried unlocking the CID - could not communicate with the XDA
No guides work for me, I am begging for help
have you tried a hard reset? I suppose you have but just asking...
Hi Chavdar,
Yes I tried hard, soft and factory resets.
I also tried many different rom updaters.
Still without any progress.
soldado said:
I would also like the PDAViet 4.0.0.0.6 Touch, but I must be dumb - because I cant get anything to work.
1. Tried with Vista
a. Works up until USB RUU mode - Vista cant see the XDA
b. Got told to forget trying with Vista
2. Tried with Windows XP cannot detect the PDA
a. Used the RNDIS-USB-Kit_05 - no instructions or doesnt work
3. Tried unlocking the SIM - my number appeared as Wingdings
4. Tried unlocking the CID - could not communicate with the XDA
No guides work for me, I am begging for help
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I am using vista but flashing temp rom is not possible with vista.
I use windows xp with vmware to flash temp rom first, then I upgrade to any wm6 rom.
have you installed activesync 4.5 to windows xp?
as far as I know, it is the only thing you have to install for you prophet to be detected by XP.
gokhanmoral said:
I am using vista but flashing temp rom is not possible with vista.
I use windows xp with vmware to flash temp rom first, then I upgrade to any wm6 rom.
have you installed activesync 4.5 to windows xp?
as far as I know, it is the only thing you have to install for you prophet to be detected by XP.
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Hi gokhanmoral,
Yes it was Windows XP with Activesync 4.5.
And it is a rebradn : 02 XDA Neo
soldado said:
Hi gokhanmoral,
Yes it was Windows XP with Activesync 4.5.
And it is a rebradn : 02 XDA Neo
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Can you get any connection with activesync or mobile device center in vista going at all? Heve you ever synced it with a PC at all?
soldado said:
I would also like the PDAViet 4.0.0.0.6 Touch, but I must be dumb - because I cant get anything to work.
1. Tried with Vista
a. Works up until USB RUU mode - Vista cant see the XDA
b. Got told to forget trying with Vista
2. Tried with Windows XP cannot detect the PDA
a. Used the RNDIS-USB-Kit_05 - no instructions or doesnt work
3. Tried unlocking the SIM - my number appeared as Wingdings
4. Tried unlocking the CID - could not communicate with the XDA
No guides work for me, I am begging for help
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just reset and hold camera button?
Chris1974 said:
Can you get any connection with activesync or mobile device center in vista going at all? Heve you ever synced it with a PC at all?
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OK Vmware seems to have done the trick.
Upgrade worked on NVID
Then it seems the 4.0.0.6 touch upgrade worked also - 1 error onscreen of XDA - Cannot execute repllog.exe
Finished clean, but stuck on load screen.
IPL 2.1.5.0001
SPL 2.20.000
GSM 02.47.21
OS 4.0.0.0
I followed the instructions exactly :S
soldado said:
OK Vmware seems to have done the trick.
Upgrade worked on NVID
Then it seems the 4.0.0.6 touch upgrade worked also - 1 error onscreen of XDA - Cannot execute repllog.exe
Finished clean, but stuck on load screen.
IPL 2.1.5.0001
SPL 2.20.000
GSM 02.47.21
OS 4.0.0.0
I followed the instructions exactly :S
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somehow upgrade_rom.bat fails under my vmware, too.
so, after upgrading to nvid under vmware/xp, detach the usb from vmware and upgrade to wm6 under vista.
just make sure you have copied the files to C: and try to keep the directory length small (for example extract to c:\temp)
gokhanmoral said:
somehow upgrade_rom.bat fails under my vmware, too.
so, after upgrading to nvid under vmware/xp, detach the usb from vmware and upgrade to wm6 under vista.
just make sure you have copied the files to C: and try to keep the directory length small (for example extract to c:\temp)
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VMware to do NVID
Another XP PC to do the install from c:\xda
IT WORKED!
/deepbow
Upgrade in Vista
i've upgraded all my ROMs in Vista Ultimate using VMWare 6.0 with xp pro SP2, Just DONT TOUCH IT when it starts step2 and dont forget to format it after each step (reset with the 3 buttons pressed), BTW i use full screen mode when flushing in VMWare.
gokhanmoral said:
somehow upgrade_rom.bat fails under my vmware, too.
so, after upgrading to nvid under vmware/xp, detach the usb from vmware and upgrade to wm6 under vista.
just make sure you have copied the files to C: and try to keep the directory length small (for example extract to c:\temp)
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So where do I find the touchflo application?
soldado said:
So where do I find the touchflo application?
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it's not an application, it's a technology.
it's simply sampling the touches or sweeps on the screen and giving you iphone-like features, like scrolling with your finger.
htc home is an application. 3dcube is an application.
just keep on reading the threads and you'll learn what they are and in which rom they are present or not.
adamsuail said:
i've upgraded all my ROMs in Vista Ultimate using VMWare 6.0 with xp pro SP2, Just DONT TOUCH IT when it starts step2 and dont forget to format it after each step (reset with the 3 buttons pressed), BTW i use full screen mode when flushing in VMWare.
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Silly question maybe, but where can I find vmware?
rondol1 said:
Silly question maybe, but where can I find vmware?
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http://www.vmware.com/
a comprehensive information about vmware products and differences: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VMware
I use vmware workstation 6.0 which provides usb 2.0 support. I guess vmware server or player 1.x versions provide only usb 1.1 support but that should be enough and they are free. I am not sure about vmware player 2.x.
gokhanmoral said:
http://www.vmware.com/
a comprehensive information about vmware products and differences: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VMware
I use vmware workstation 6.0 which provides usb 2.0 support. I guess vmware server or player 1.x versions provide only usb 1.1 support but that should be enough and they are free. I am not sure about vmware player 2.x.
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Thanxx I'll dive in to it!