Ok i am going to start a list of roms that dont have the IPL/SPL included that can be flashed to the G4 type devices
ftp://xda:[email protected]/Wizard_Love_2.26.10.2_WWE_Novii+CF2.rar
I am currently running this rom it is very fast and i like it i have added a few items to mine from molskis cabs to tweak it to my liking
MrClean_RUU_WIZARD_224a_AKU23_WWE is also runs on G4 locked wizards. but it's not makes me happier, cuz not one of AKU3.x does flash.
PLEASE include ipl/spl of your device in post!
PLEASE include ipl/spl of your device in post!
Your help is needed!
This will help the Guru's determine if there's a compatability issue with the higher ipl/spl devices. (it appears some G4 devices can be upgraded, while others might not be able to. )
Running RUU_Molski.Biz_226102_22610105_022511_G4_WWE-30MB now without any problems. The newer Molski rom gave a compatibility error when I tried to flash.
IPL/SPL 2.21.0001
My device is CID-Locked.
vippie said:
Running RUU_Molski.Biz_226102_22610105_022511_G4_WWE-30MB now without any problems. The newer Molski rom gave a compatibility error when I tried to flash.
IPL/SPL 2.21.0001
My device is CID-Locked.
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post ur current windows version
No success for the Molski's with me...
IPL/SPL 2.17.0001
__s said:
post ur current windows version
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OS: 2.26.10.2
No success for me either using the latest Molski G4 ROM (3rd Edition).
IPL/SPL 2.16.0001
sunmoon said:
No success for me either using the latest Molski G4 ROM (3rd Edition).
IPL/SPL 2.16.0001
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Found out the reason that the 3rd Edition of Molski didn't work was due to the old "ROMUpdateUtility_Wizard_NoID.exe" used by Molski. After I changed it to the newromupdateutility_wizard_noid.exe, it flashed. However, I'm facing the same problem with other G4 users where only the Extended ROM and splash screen were updated, not the OS and radio.
sunmoon said:
Found out the reason that the 3rd Edition of Molski didn't work was due to the old "ROMUpdateUtility_Wizard_NoID.exe" used by Molski. After I changed it to the newromupdateutility_wizard_noid.exe, it flashed. However, I'm facing the same problem with other G4 users where only the Extended ROM and splash screen were updated, not the OS and radio.
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NoID_RUU wont help, u need to unlock ur CID.
__s said:
NoID_RUU wont help, u need to unlock ur CID.
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Please enlighten us on how to CID unlock a G4 (short of the new pay way). FWIW, the noid change suggested should work (G4 here it works on no problem).
Thunder_PC said:
Please enlighten us on how to CID unlock a G4
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just a thread above u describes how.
here's the online unlocking service in case u wont find it on forum: http://www.imei-check.co.uk/
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NoID_RUU wont help, u need to unlock ur CID.
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Well, the Wizard Love ROM mentioned in the first post worked. It's using the new NoID_RUU. My phone has been upgraded to OS 2.26.10.2 AKU 2.3 now.
same for me. I have 2.21.001, CID Locked and Wizard love took my aku from 2.0 to 2.3, all works great.
@azapa .. 2.21.001 means u have a G3 device and the discussion is for G4 devices only !
following is my device info :
IPL /SPL 2.21.0001
GSM 01.07.10
OS 2.21.4.1
i have a o2 mini s and have not changed the rom even once on this device
so , from what a gather , the rom mentioned in the first page ( wizard_love) will work on my device ????
and r there any advantages , i mean in speed and performance ??
IPL/SPL 2.21.0001
Running Molski.Biz_226102_22610105_022511_G4_WWE-30MB, works fine. Allthough I needed to flash it twice to get the OS part updated.
Not sure if my device is CID-locked or not, how can I check to make sure?
i think all are locked ... not sure myself if there is any way to check ??
Wizard-Love works in my O2 with CID locked!
@dodadent .. is it any better than yr old rom ? what was yr old rom version ? and whats yr IPL and SPL ??
i was just checking out the rom update utility and its not in english !!!! cant understand a word .... somebody help !!
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I downloaded RUU_Molski.Biz_226102_22610105_022511_G4_WWE-30MB version of ROM and i upgraded it to my device.
IPL 2.18
ISL 2.18--> but this version might be upgrade these for 2.26, but nothing happened. Can anyone help me why? my device CID locked and i using Crossbow now i just wanted to upgrade IPL the newest version... If anyone can post me a link where can i download working IPL upgrader for a locked G4 i will be happy!
Draegloth said:
I downloaded RUU_Molski.Biz_226102_22610105_022511_G4_WWE-30MB version of ROM and i upgraded it to my device.
IPL 2.18
ISL 2.18--> but this version might be upgrade these for 2.26, but nothing happened. Can anyone help me why? my device CID locked and i using Crossbow now i just wanted to upgrade IPL the newest version... If anyone can post me a link where can i download working IPL upgrader for a locked G4 i will be happy!
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If your Wizard is fully functional, why would you want to upgrade these on your device? If you do some reading on the Hermes you will find that the carriers/manufacturer are using the bootloaders to make it harder to update your device (i.e. the .0108 bootloaders) locking your device to a certain radio. I would steer away from upgrading these unless absolutely necessary, so as to upgrade a radio if required for example.
BTW: Most of the ROMs cooked for G4's that are cooked to not touch the bootloaders to 1) prevent noobs from bricking their device and 2)to allow any ROM to be installed. Aren't the developers great? They cook these for both G3 and G4.
IPL/SPL can't be replaced on a G4 with any of the roms atm, but if you got IPL/SPL 2.18 you're device isn't a G4!
vippie said:
IPL/SPL can't be replaced on a G4 with any of the roms atm, but if you got IPL/SPL 2.18 you're device isn't a G4!
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But I've got three zeros after that 2.18.0001 I think this is absolutely G4--> the reason why I want to update IPL is, my speaker make no voice and I think after that can be working again
That makes more sense. IPL/SPL 2.18.0001 makes it a G4. I haven't seen a update possibility for IPL/SPL on a G4 yet. Be very careful, flashing 2.26 on a G4 will brick you're device!
Draegloth said:
But I've got three zeros after that 2.18.0001 I think this is absolutely G4--> the reason why I want to update IPL is, my speaker make no voice and I think after that can be working again
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This doesn't mean you can't try flashing a different cooked rom for a G4. Try it, the other possibility may be a hardware failure (bad speaker).
ercave1 said:
This doesn't mean you can't try flashing a different cooked rom for a G4. Try it, the other possibility may be a hardware failure (bad speaker).
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So can you upload me anywhere a working G4 rom what update my 2.18 to 2.26. I really need that 'cause it may fix my bad speaker... I serched for G4 version but I couldn't find anywhere. Thanks forward
Draegloth said:
So can you upload me anywhere a working G4 rom what update my 2.18 to 2.26. I really need that 'cause it may fix my bad speaker... I serched for G4 version but I couldn't find anywhere. Thanks forward
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As mentioned in an earlier post... there is no way to update the IPL/SPL on a G4 as of yet. I do not think you will be able to find such a ROM. The only way I think you would be able to do this is if your carrier released an official ROM specifically for your G4 device, but that is unlikely. None of the G4 ROMS cooked by the Xda-Devs that I'm aware of, update the IPL/SPL. Try a different cooked G4 ROM, if that doesn't work I suggest having that speaker checked out. I don't remember reading anything anywhere about the bootloaders affecting the devices speaker function.
hi guys.i need your information.some people say before u flash your phone with any custom rom get the clean system with tmobile 2.26.i have i mate kjam.its g4 and cid unlock..can flash my phone t-mobile offical 2.26 rom.because i am not sure that offical rom is g4 or g3.i dont wanna brick my phone.thanks your information and help
Don't flash T-Mobile 2.26 on a G4.... It contains IPL/SPL and will brick your device!
thank u
thanks for your valuable information my friend.so people are giving me wrong advice.what should i do? how can i get right rom and latest ipl/spl for my imate kjam to make my system clean?maybe from xxx.clubimate.com ?thanks your help my friend.thank u
You should read allot before flashing your device, make sure you know what your doing when flashing the first time. You cannot touch/upgrade IPL/SPL on a G4, but it isn't necessary! You can still flash new roms into it. Start here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=298613
You also tell your G4 is CID-unlocked. Have you payed for it at imei-check? If not.... it's still CID-locked! There's a difference between SIM and CID-lock.
g4 kjam and cid unlock
yes.i paid to imeicheck.co.uk.i am sure my kjam all ready cid unlock.because this is not first to flash my kjam.i flashed before.(orginal kjam rom to faria 3.3 than to wm6 mb edition than to faria wm6 realthing than to x-plore 1.1 and now i am using faria wm5 3.3 4mb page pool)...now i am not sure how clean my kjam is?if ipl/spl update is not necassarly which you sais it's ok no problem.but i have some problem with my phone,i tried almost all task managers,i couldn't get good performance.i am having freezing problem.memory leaking problem etc...i thought maybe i must flash my phone some offical phone,but u said u cant use t.mobile or other...imate offical rom is very old version and useless and too slow..now i dont know what must i do?what should i do?thanks your help my friend.
I see! It is possible to got back to an official rom by recooking the rom without IPL/SPL. Here is explained how to do this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=271043
thank you
I am currently running the Cingular 2.25.0001 ipl/spl .. is there a better one out there that would be safe to upgrade to on my 8125 G4?
lol.. No one has any suggestions?! lol .. I see a couple people with 2.26 and 3.08 .. just wondering how those would work with my G4
You've got a WHOLE LOT of reading to do if you're thinking about changing your IPL/SPL on a G4 Wizard.
Good Luck!!
that's what I figured.. I wasnt sure if it was safe to do... or easier to do with my CID unlocked..
This thread would be the perfect place to start.
HA! Thanks newbie.. I guess I will be leaving my IPL/SPL alone .. .. Maybe I will wait for cingular to make an update.. lol.
I have :
O2 XDA mini S G4 CID locked
IPL/SPL 3.08.0001;
Radio 2.69.11;
OS 10.2.0.8 WWE mUn_aRTM
Just flash this rom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=300628
With ftp://[email protected]/Prophet/Tools/ROMUpdateUtility-NoVendorID.zip
then you have German OS with IPL/SPL 3.08.0001. Radio 2.69.11
OS can you reflash later.
Question I have is.. What exactly does the IPL/SPL do? lol ..
apparently doesnt let you make calls. every time i try to dial a number, it says your international call cannot be completed as dialed... its useless, i just did it on my g3.
Madcap180 said:
Question I have is.. What exactly does the IPL/SPL do? lol ..
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IPL and SPL are your bootloaders.
They initialize and load your OS and radio. different versions have different commands available to them and in some cases a higher number means a better version. In others the higher number means there are security "fixes" that will make it harder for you to flash your phone.
For a Wizard I have seen no reason to update higher than the T-Mobile 2.26. But then again you should only do this if you have a G3. Flashing G3 bootloaders into a G4 device will irrevocably brick it.
I believe (don't quote me on this though) that only official carrier roms (newer than the G4 device) contain both G3 and G4 bootloaders and as such are safe to flash to a G4 device. I would confirm this with your carrier before doing so though.
Hi
this method works perfectly
Now have a G4 CID locked update to IPL/SPL 3.08.0001
Thx
Just flash with Deutsch ROM to update IPL/SPL
& reflash to your favorite ROM
Borter said:
I have :
O2 XDA mini S G4 CID locked
IPL/SPL 3.08.0001;
Radio 2.69.11;
OS 10.2.0.8 WWE mUn_aRTM
Just flash this rom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=300628
With ftp://[email protected]/Prophet/Tools/ROMUpdateUtility-NoVendorID.zip
then you have German OS with IPL/SPL 3.08.0001. Radio 2.69.11
OS can you reflash later.
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120.fr said:
Hi
this method works perfectly
Now have a G4 CID locked update to IPL/SPL 3.08.0001
Thx
Just flash with Deutsch ROM to update IPL/SPL
& reflash to your favorite ROM
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Are you saying you upgraded you G4 CID locked phone using a ROM that isn't from your provider??
Please clarify this matter so that other users don't brick their phones!
mestrini said:
Are you saying you upgraded you G4 CID locked phone using a ROM that isn't from your provider??
Please clarify this matter so that other users don't brick their phones!
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Yes I do.
I am a french guy, my provider is Ten Mobile.
I already have brick my Wizard before. Thanks to the guarantee, it was repaired.
Just replace Updater by ROMUpdateUtility-NoVendorID.
2 days of use nothing to announce.
Zzan said:
IPL and SPL are your bootloaders.
They initialize and load your OS and radio. different versions have different commands available to them and in some cases a higher number means a better version. In others the higher number means there are security "fixes" that will make it harder for you to flash your phone.
For a Wizard I have seen no reason to update higher than the T-Mobile 2.26. But then again you should only do this if you have a G3. Flashing G3 bootloaders into a G4 device will irrevocably brick it.
I believe (don't quote me on this though) that only official carrier roms (newer than the G4 device) contain both G3 and G4 bootloaders and as such are safe to flash to a G4 device. I would confirm this with your carrier before doing so though.
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I have a G4 CID locked phone and IPL/SPL thats older than 2.26 and I see no reason to update them still, considering that I can upgrade everything else (OS, radio, ext rom, splash) without touching IPL/SPL. Of course, I am a little more cautious having bricked (yes, real "replacement required" type brick) my phone once.
120.fr said:
Yes I do.
I am a french guy, my provider is Ten Mobile.
I already have brick my Wizard before. Thanks to the guarantee, it was repaired.
Just replace Updater by ROMUpdateUtility-NoVendorID.
2 days of use nothing to announce.
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It's been a long time since you did this. Is it still working for you?
Borter said:
I have :
O2 XDA mini S G4 CID locked
IPL/SPL 3.08.0001;
Radio 2.69.11;
OS 10.2.0.8 WWE mUn_aRTM
Just flash this rom http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=300628 With ftp://[email protected]/Prophet/Tools/ROMUpdateUtility-NoVendorID.zip
then you have German OS with IPL/SPL 3.08.0001. Radio 2.69.11
OS can you reflash later.
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120.fr said:
Hi this method works perfectly
Now have a G4 CID locked update to IPL/SPL 3.08.0001
Thx
Just flash with Deutsch ROM to update IPL/SPL & reflash to your favorite ROM
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mestrini said:
Are you saying you upgraded you G4 CID locked phone using a ROM that isn't from your provider??
Please clarify this matter so that other users don't brick their phones!
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@mestrini I am guessing you did not try this route.
Borter said:
I have :
O2 XDA mini S G4 CID locked
IPL/SPL 3.08.0001;
Radio 2.69.11;
OS 10.2.0.8 WWE mUn_aRTM
Just flash this rom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=300628
With ftp://[email protected]/Prophet/Tools/ROMUpdateUtility-NoVendorID.zip
then you have German OS with IPL/SPL 3.08.0001. Radio 2.69.11
OS can you reflash later.
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You flashed your O2 (G4 and CID locked device) with T-Mobiles ROM?! Sounds crazy to me... Are You sure that your device is CID locked at all? Even G4 device may be CID unlocked, using imei-check - only way this thing have some sense...
Can SPL 2.21.0001 downgrade to 1.06 and smaller?
Mr.Viet said:
Can SPL 2.21.0001 downgrade to 1.06 and smaller?
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Only if your G4 Wizard is CID unlocked, but i guess it's not...
CyberianIce said:
You flashed your O2 (G4 and CID locked device) with T-Mobiles ROM?! Sounds crazy to me... Are You sure that your device is CID locked at all? Even G4 device may be CID unlocked, using imei-check - only way this thing have some sense...
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why? even with NoID updater it's not possible to update a locked G4?
I just bought a used 8125. The device was suppose to be standard, but when it arrived it had WM 6.1 custom rom from newbie1221. I also noticed that it is a G4.
IPL 2.1.0001
SPL 2.1.01ip
So is it safe to assume the device is CID unlocked?
Is it safe to flash This Romas it doesn't include ipl/spl?
How will the UK radio work since I'm in the US? My current Radio version is 2.25.11
How can I tell if it's wwe?
It says it's WM 6.1 but I'm confused by this
5.2.19199 build 19199.1.0.0 (AKU 1.0 )
OS: 11.0.1.0 << as you know, 11.x.x.x is for TNT Series or based on
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Does this mean it's not 6.1?
Please be patient with me it's been a while since I've had WM device. The wiki helped me a lot.
Heya man, welcome to the fold....you can tell if your device has WM6.1 on it by going to START->Settings->System->About, and at the top is will say OS:Windows Mobile 5.0/6/6.1, depending on what you have. Since your IPL/SPL is already Olip'ed, then yes, your device IS indeed CID unlocked....but if you havent done so already, I would download the excellent Wizard Tool availible up here at XDA-Dev and SIM unlock your device aswell. To answer your other question, you should be fine with flashing a different rom, as long as it DOES NOT contain an Extended ROM partition OR IPL/SPL.
No, G4 is always CID locked, regardless you used HardSPL or not (HardSPL only tricks the RUU program, you can always check the CID lock status using WST)
Yes, it's safe to flash any ROMs that doesn't include IPL and SPL.
For the Radio, all Radio ROMs has support for all GSM modes supported by Wizard hardware, just try to see if it gives a better reception.
TNT roms are always WWE (you can see the screenshots, it is always WWE if it is an English ROM)
5.2.19xxx is WM6.1 ROM. TNT used its own versioning in ROM, so don't count on that.
So all that HardSPL'ing a device does is trick the RUU? Didnt know that, I thought that it actually "unlocked" the phone, like we do over in the excalibur forums lol
starkwong is absolutely correct and I endorse it!
Thanks for all the help. I downloaded WST it shows it was Sim unlocked but I have no way of testing. WST shows that the phone is HardSPL. When I try to flash any Roms I get a Error 300 message. So I used the RUU MUN worked perfectly. The phone is my wifes & she is very happy. Thanks again for all the help. The Wizard may be old but it runs great.
I have a G4 with
IPL: 2.21.0001
SPL:2.21.0001
GSM: 02.07.10
OS:2.18.7.2
i have WM 5.1.xx and i want to upgrade the rom, i'll see TNT and SNN 3.0 but i can upgrade because the upgrade tool give me ERROR300, do you know how can upgrade? witch is the best ROM image for this phone?
And one more question, what's a G4 phone, with diferrences have from a G3 and other's
Sorry this questions, but, i'm a begginer.
Thank's
Tony
tony-coimbra said:
I have a G4 with
IPL: 2.21.0001
SPL:2.21.0001
GSM: 02.07.10
OS:2.18.7.2
i have WM 5.1.xx and i want to upgrade the rom, i'll see TNT and SNN 3.0 but i can upgrade because the upgrade tool give me ERROR300, do you know how can upgrade? witch is the best ROM image for this phone?
And one more question, what's a G4 phone, with diferrences have from a G3 and other's
Sorry this questions, but, i'm a begginer.
Thank's
Tony
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Read and fully understand the guide posted here in the Wiki, it'll answer all your questions and procedure to upgrade a G4 device to wm6.
BTW,you can't just download any wm6 Rom and upgrade your phone with it,its first requires to do CID unlock the phone,but a G4 device cannot be CID unlocked like a G3 phone,coz it has different M-System Flash Chip type DOC Chip with altogether different IPL/SPL (Bootloaders),which are specifically made not to be easily CID unlocked like the G3 devices. This is the only difference in a G3 and G4 devices,otherwise,they are basically same as regards to specifications and features.
However,a G4 device can still be upgraded to wm6 Roms with other methods called 'HardSPL' and 'SoftSPL',check out this link or the 'Stickies' posted at the top of this thread as "hardSPL' and 'SoftSPL' for upgrading to wm6 :-
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Wizard Windows Mobile 6 for newbies
zabardast_1 said:
Read and fully understand the guide posted here in the Wiki, it'll answer all your questions and procedure to upgrade a G4 device to wm6.
BTW,you can't just download any wm6 Rom and upgrade your phone with it,its first requires to do CID unlock the phone,but a G4 device cannot be CID unlocked like a G3 phone,coz it has different M-System Flash Chip type DOC Chip with altogether different IPL/SPL (Bootloaders),which are specifically made not to be easily CID unlocked like the G3 devices. This is the only difference in a G3 and G4 devices,otherwise,they are basically same as regards to specifications and features.
However,a G4 device can still be upgraded to wm6 Roms with other methods called 'HardSPL' and 'SoftSPL',check out this link or the 'Stickies' posted at the top of this thread as "hardSPL' and 'SoftSPL' for upgrading to wm6 :-
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Wizard Windows Mobile 6 for newbies
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My phone is unlocked, I think, because i can insert any SIM from any provider... and it works
tony-coimbra said:
My phone is unlocked, I think, because i can insert any SIM from any provider... and it works
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Its SIM unlocked not CID unlocked. SIM unlock is very different than CID unlock,with SIM unlock you can insert and use any SIM of any other network,but with CID unlock you can flash or upgrade to any wm6 or latest Rom. The reason you have not been able to upgrade to any of the above mentioned in your first post is coz your phone is CID locked,it won't upgrade untill its CID unlocked,ok
tony-coimbra said:
My phone is unlocked, I think, because i can insert any SIM from any provider... and it works
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Hello once again, I red about t, and I was trying to make the procedements off the manual, but i get 2 problems:
If i try to Run HARD_SPL in the PC with XP, when Open the Dos window, the program gives Error, don't copy the files to device and windows close, i try in a different PC and the problem is the same.
When I Run in vista, pass the dos windows, and copy to device, the screen stay White, but when i make next in the update TOOL, the program crach, windows give me a messagem, program don't responding....
Can anyone help me?
try running it from Command Prompt.
starkwong said:
try running it from Command Prompt.
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I do that test with XP or Vista?
tony-coimbra said:
I do that test with XP or Vista?
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Win XP is recommended.
zabardast_1 said:
Win XP is recommended.
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Hello, run from Command Prompt don't resolve the problem, when the apliccation try to copy to pda give me---> cecopy.exe -> apliccation error