How to get Japanese fonts working on English ROM? - 8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin

Here is the situation: I am one of these sorry Softbank users who have to resort to all sort of tricks to get their TyTn working in English using the Softback network. I flashed a WWE ROM and have now all services, including MMS properly working. Naturally the WWE ROM does not include Japanese fonts, and whenever you receive an e-mail in Japanese or want to browse a Japanese website you see only gibberish.
I tried to solve the problem with installing Askul's "LetsJapanNo5" cab that comes with Japanese fonts.
http://asukal.seesaa.net/article/6912738.html
It works for IE and e-mail, but unfortunately this cab is somewhat mixing up with tje English fonts: Suddenly certain WM 5.0 parts are displayed in Japanese as well, such as the "calendar" function in "Today", and there is suddenly an annoying mixture between English WM 5 fonts and Japanese fonts.
I then tried "CE-Star for WM5" advertised as "the first and only true Chinese/Japanese enabler software suite for Windows Mobile 5.0 based Smartphone."
http://microsoft.handango.com/Platf...&productType=2&platformId=11&productId=193804
After installing it, the same happens like with Askul's Japan cab. Japanese fonts become available for IE and e-mails, but again certain WM functions, like the "Calendar" in "Today" are displayed in Japanese and cannot be changed to English, also there is an annoying mixture between English and Chinese/Japanese fonts. I can only warn to use "CE-Star" from Mobem, because you cannot de-install it, and I had to hard-reset to get rid of the *****.
Any idea how to get Japanese/Asian fonts working? So that they can be selected for IE browsing like in Windows XP without messing up the entire WM installation?

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chainbolt said:
Here is the situation: I am one of these sorry Softbank users who have to resort to all sort of tricks to get their TyTn working in English using the Softback network. I flashed a WWE ROM and have now all services, including MMS properly working. Naturally the WWE ROM does not include Japanese fonts, and whenever you receive an e-mail in Japanese or want to browse a Japanese website you see only gibberish.
I tried to solve the problem with installing Askul's "LetsJapanNo5" cab that comes with Japanese fonts.
http://asukal.seesaa.net/article/6912738.html
It works for IE and e-mail, but unfortunately this cab is somewhat mixing up with tje English fonts: Suddenly certain WM 5.0 parts are displayed in Japanese as well, such as the "calendar" function in "Today", and there is suddenly an annoying mixture between English WM 5 fonts and Japanese fonts.
I then tried "CE-Star for WM5" advertised as "the first and only true Chinese/Japanese enabler software suite for Windows Mobile 5.0 based Smartphone."
http://microsoft.handango.com/Platf...&productType=2&platformId=11&productId=193804
After installing it, the same happens like with Askul's Japan cab. Japanese fonts become available for IE and e-mails, but again certain WM functions, like the "Calendar" in "Today" are displayed in Japanese and cannot be changed to English, also there is an annoying mixture between English and Chinese/Japanese fonts. I can only warn to use "CE-Star" from Mobem, because you cannot de-install it, and I had to hard-reset to get rid of the *****.
Any idea how to get Japanese/Asian fonts working? So that they can be selected for IE browsing like in Windows XP without messing up the entire WM installation?
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if you read japanese, visit here.
http://smart-pda.net/useful7+index.id+5.htm#フォントのダウンロード
there are samples of some free or free-ish... fonts and links to the sites where you can download those fonts.
if you have a pc with japanese win xp, you can copy msgothic out of c:\windows...

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chainbolt,
i strongly recommend this font called Meiryo from Windows Vista. it works better with the clear type setting than any other japanese fonts. you can download it from here .
unarchive the lzh file and you will get the font file meiryo.ttc. just copy that into your \windows folder and make the registry changes as follows.
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\FontLink\SystemLink\
there are four fonts Arial/Courier New/Tahoma/Times New Roman in this. change the font link of these all four to \Windows\meiryo.ttc,Meiryo and that's it.
btw, i use ce-star v28 and it works fine for me although it does have some glitches as you mentioned. it does have the uninstall capability though. it should be too late for you now but you can unistall it by Start->Programs->CE-Star->Uninstall.

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harryk1372 said:
chainbolt,
i strongly recommend this font called Meiryo from Windows Vista. it works better with the clear type setting than any other japanese fonts. you can download it from here .
unarchive the lzh file and you will get the font file meiryo.ttc. just copy that into your \windows folder and make the registry changes as follows.
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\FontLink\SystemLink\
there are four fonts Arial/Courier New/Tahoma/Times New Roman in this. change the font link of these all four to \Windows\meiryo.ttc,Meiryo and that's it.
btw, i use ce-star v28 and it works fine for me although it does have some glitches as you mentioned. it does have the uninstall capability though. it should be too late for you now but you can unistall it by Start->Programs->CE-Star->Uninstall.
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Thanks a lot. I could smell already that I have to change some registry settings as well, not just copying the font into the Windows folder. Interesting that with ce-star. Do you also get "Date/Time" and the "Calendar" in Japanese?

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After installing it, the same happens like with Askul's Japan cab. Japanese fonts become available for IE and e-mails, but again certain WM functions, like the "Calendar" in "Today" are displayed in Japanese and cannot be changed to English, also there is an annoying mixture between English and Chinese/Japanese fonts. I can only warn to use "CE-Star" from Mobem, because you cannot de-install it, and I had to hard-reset to get rid of the *****.
Any idea how to get Japanese/Asian fonts working? So that they can be selected for IE browsing like in Windows XP without messing up the entire WM installation?[/QUOTE]
did you tried to verify your Regional Settings on your cell -
from start-settings-system-regional settings ::: go through all the option tab.
especially the Region tab - set to English

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INPUT Japanese - of how to
@harryK -
on another Note:
did you are able to setup your cell to accept input japanese language?
please advice

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harryk1372 said:
chainbolt,
i strongly recommend this font called Meiryo from Windows Vista. it works better with the clear type setting than any other japanese fonts. you can download it from here .
unarchive the lzh file and you will get the font file meiryo.ttc. just copy that into your \windows folder and make the registry changes as follows.
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\FontLink\SystemLink\
there are four fonts Arial/Courier New/Tahoma/Times New Roman in this. change the font link of these all four to \Windows\meiryo.ttc,Meiryo and that's it.
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Harry, thanks again. I have done all this, but no success, I can neither select a Japanese font for IE (in the option menue) nor can I read Japanese e-mail. It actually did not change anything. I of course made a soft re-set after changing the registry. Do I miss something?

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hehehe, I found a way how to do it:
The new font has actually to be installed into Windows/fonts/
as described here here:
http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/index.php?blog=24&p=1353&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1
I can now open and read Japanese websites, but still Japanese e-mail comes in "blocks".

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chainbolt said:
hehehe, I found a way how to do it:
The new font has actually to be installed into Windows/fonts/
as described here here:
http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/index.php?blog=24&p=1353&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1
I can now open and read Japanese websites, but still Japanese e-mail comes in "blocks".
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if you read japanese, visit here.
http://www.yasukawa.com/blog/archives/000336.html
there is a step-by-step guide on this page.

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qtotter said:
if you read japanese, visit here.
http://www.yasukawa.com/blog/archives/000336.html
there is a step-by-step guide on this page.
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Thanks for that. That seems to be a very detailed description. My Japanese is not good enough, but I will ask the GF.

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Locales and Date/Time settings
From my understanding of Asian languages on PPCs (only 2003SE, but I assume WM5 will be similar), the actual installation of the fonts as descibed allows Japanese to be displayed. The settings for Today (in fact, all regionalised date/time settings), are set in Regional Settings [Start -> Settings -> System -> Regional Settings]. If, after you've installed the Japanese enabler, such as CE Star, you'll probably notice that Japanese has been set in Regional Settings. If you change this back to English [and your appropriate locale, eg. English (Australia)], then, after a soft reset, date/time/Today settings should be in English again.
Note that these settings also affect the ability to restore from a backup using ActiveSync. The device to which a backup file is to be restored must first have the same locale set (in Regional Settings, or the registry) as that recorded in the backup file at the time of the backup.
This is set in the registry at HKLM\nls\DefaultLCID
-> For example, 0x404 (1028) is for Chinese (Taiwan)
It's also set in HKLM\nls\overrides\LCID
This may have changed in WM5.
Note that there are other settings in there which allow manual setting of Date/Time settings. For example, in HKLM\nls\overrides\SLDte, the System Long Date format can be set. I have manually set this to "dddd yyyy'年'MM'月'dd'日'". Instead of changing the Locale, you may instead manually set your date settings here.

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otoro_315 said:
@harryK -
on another Note:
did you are able to setup your cell to accept input japanese language?
please advice
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i have installed ATOK for Pocket PC for the japanese ime.
note that it's not that easy to install this and you need to read this page qtotter mentioned in the later post for not having side effect problems. if you just install it, you'll be screwed.

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chainbolt said:
hehehe, I found a way how to do it:
The new font has actually to be installed into Windows/fonts/
as described here here:
http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/index.php?blog=24&p=1353&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1
I can now open and read Japanese websites, but still Japanese e-mail comes in "blocks".
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that's bizarre. i have it installed in the \windows folder and not in the \windows\fonts.
you also need to check your regional settings (start->settings->system->regional settings) and change Region to Japan when you want the full japanese display capability, but this requires changing the nls. just adding a japanese font is not good enough. the only way to install the japanese nls file is either installing ce-star or Asukal's cab. you can change the date and time formats to english even japan is set for the region.

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CJBS said:
From my understanding of Asian languages on PPCs (only 2003SE, but I assume WM5 will be similar), the actual installation of the fonts as descibed allows Japanese to be displayed. The settings for Today (in fact, all regionalised date/time settings), are set in Regional Settings [Start -> Settings -> System -> Regional Settings]. If, after you've installed the Japanese enabler, such as CE Star, you'll probably notice that Japanese has been set in Regional Settings. If you change this back to English [and your appropriate locale, eg. English (Australia)], then, after a soft reset, date/time/Today settings should be in English again.
Note that these settings also affect the ability to restore from a backup using ActiveSync. The device to which a backup file is to be restored must first have the same locale set (in Regional Settings, or the registry) as that recorded in the backup file at the time of the backup.
This is set in the registry at HKLM\nls\DefaultLCID
-> For example, 0x404 (1028) is for Chinese (Taiwan)
It's also set in HKLM\nls\overrides\LCID
This may have changed in WM5.
Note that there are other settings in there which allow manual setting of Date/Time settings. For example, in HKLM\nls\overrides\SLDte, the System Long Date format can be set. I have manually set this to "dddd yyyy'?'MM'?'dd'?'". Instead of changing the Locale, you may instead manually set your date settings here.
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thanks for the follow-up. what you explained is all true and they are the same with wm5.

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harryk1372 said:
that's bizarre. i have it installed in the \windows folder and not in the \windows\fonts.
you also need to check your regional settings (start->settings->system->regional settings) and change Region to Japan when you want the full japanese display capability, but this requires changing the nls. just adding a japanese font is not good enough. the only way to install the japanese nls file is either installing ce-star or Asukal's cab. you can change the date and time formats to english even japan is set for the region.
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It's definitely in the "fonts" folder, as described in the "how to" I linked. It works for IE browsing, but not for e-mails.
I can't set in "regional settings" to Japan, because such setting does not exist in my WM 5.0 installation (WWE ROM 1.35).
I give CE Star now a second try.

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chainbolt said:
I can't set in "regional settings" to Japan, because such setting does not exist in my WM 5.0 installation (WWE ROM 1.35).
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well, burning a rom is NOT like installing an os as win xp... you do not choose the default region/language when you burn a rom. it just "burns" something like a fixed disk image onto the flash memory.
you can change settings including region/language on os, which means you do the same every time you do hard reset.

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chainbolt said:
I can't set in "regional settings" to Japan, because such setting does not exist in my WM 5.0 installation (WWE ROM 1.35).
I give CE Star now a second try.
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you can't set it to japan as you don't have the nls you need. if you are giving ce-star another try, i recommend that you turn off everything other than japanese in the options for installation if you don't need any chinese. when that is successful, you will have japan for the regional settings option.

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True Type Fonts for the PPC are the same as for Windows machinese - any *.ttf file should work. It shouldn't matter where the physical font file is located, but settings in the registry will dictate whether the font works on the PPC system or not (both in terms of [a] System Fonts for Today, and Application displays, and availability of fonts to applicaions such as Pocket Word).
Firstly, download a font file (*.ttf) that contains your Japanese glyphs, and put it on your PPC (eg. in the \Windows folder, or elsewhere, such as \Storage\Fonts). Secondly, use a program such as InFont (http://www.insoftwarehouse.com/download/infont/xe.php?l=en), or FontOnStorage (http://www.pocketpcfreewares.com/en/index.php?soft=726) to set up your fonts to be loaded when the device starts.
Then, using a program such as TillanoSoft PocketTweak (http://tillanosoft.com/ce/ptweak.html) - (see the Fonts tab), set the System Fonts (there are three of them - System Font, MenuBar font and Pop-Up font - this may be different on WM5) to a font that contains the glyphs you require - in your case, Japanese.
Note that this can all be done without an nls file for Japanese, or any other language for that matter, and avoids the use of CE Star, or the Japanese CAB (but does require other tools such as the Font Manager, or FontOnStorate).
This approach will also avoid any issues with English regional settings, such as Date Time formats, and phone number formats, from being changed.

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harryk1372 said:
you can't set it to japan as you don't have the nls you need. if you are giving ce-star another try, i recommend that you turn off everything other than japanese in the options for installation if you don't need any chinese. when that is successful, you will have japan for the regional settings option.
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Thanks again.
I re-stalled CEStar, got the fonts, and now also the regional settings (for Asian countries). I re-set to US, the Chinese characters disappeared in the "Calender", and everything is now working. I can open Japanese websites and e-mails.

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CJBS said:
Note that this can all be done without an nls file for Japanese, or any other language for that matter, and avoids the use of CE Star, or the Japanese CAB (but does require other tools such as the Font Manager, or FontOnStorate).
This approach will also avoid any issues with English regional settings, such as Date Time formats, and phone number formats, from being changed.
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Hi CBS, thanks a lot. Although I have it now working with CEStar, I will give this a try later as well.