From Mobile-review.com:
"Kingmax has announced a storage card microSDHC capacious of 4 GB. This is a record for this standard, says the company. Until now microSDHC cards carried 2 GB maximum.
The cards comply with SD 2.0 specifications. They feature 127X or 19.1 Mbps (write) and 150X or 22.5 Mbps (read) speeds. No doubt, the cards will be in demand for multimedia mobile phones and other portable electronics, should the price be adequate. Unfortunately, the company hasn’t provided the info on the release date."
But do our Tytns support SDHC anyway?
No the Hermes does not support SDHC.. too bad, my 2gb is almost full!
SDHC
whats that stand for then?
Guess "HC" stands for "High Capacity"...
MilanoRex said:
No the Hermes does not support SDHC.. too bad, my 2gb is almost full!
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So do you mean that it doesn't support anything greater than 2GB?
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So do you mean that it doesn't support anything greater than 2GB?
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Has to be seen I think, don´t know of any standard (non-SDHC) 4GB microSD card, do you?
SDHC info from Sanddisk:
What is SDHC? SD High Capacity (SDHCTM) card is the new SD™ memory card based on the SDA2.00 specification, introduced by the SD Card Association. This new SDA 2.00 specification enables SD cards to reach higher capacities - 4GB-32GB*.Because SDHC works differently then standard SD cards, this new format is notbackwards compatible with legacy SD format host devices. More SDHC compatible devices are expected to be available in the second half of 2006. To ensure compatibility, look for the SDHC logo on cards and host devices (cameras, camcorders, etc.)Compatibility with SDHC 4GB: 4GB SDHC cards can only work with SDHC compatible host devices. To ensure compatibility, look for the SDHC logo on the packaging. Please check with your device manufacturer for their current/future supported SDHC devices. What is Class Speed Rating? The SD Association has created and defined 3 speedclasses to help you identify speed and performance capabilities/minimum requirements of SD/SDHC cards and the host products. The SD Speed Class Ratings specify a minimum sustained write speed for SDHC cards (Class 2: 2 MB/s; Class 4: 4 MB/s; Class 6: 6 MB/s*). You can look for the Speed Class Logo to identify the performance class of your memory cards and host devices. NOTE: SDHC, the SDHC logo and SD are trademarks.*1 megabyte (MB) = 1 million bytes; 1 gigabyte (GB) = 1 billion bytes.
SDHC will go upto 32gb in a SD card size
Wow
There would definitly be some software upgrade required to use SDHC card for Hermes.
sohaibrafiq said:
There would definitly be some software upgrade required to use SDHC card for Hermes.
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In the Registry I saw keys concerning sdhc. So I would believe Hermes can handle it. I think it's worth a try
Don't you have to format anything larger than 2GB in NTFS format.
I think this device can only read FAT16. Might need a ROM upgrade
Roobuls said:
Don't you have to format anything larger than 2GB in NTFS format.
I think this device can only read FAT16. Might need a ROM upgrade
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No, SDHC Cards are formated in FAT32, so it isn't so hard.
I just formated my 1GB microSD Card with FAT32 and I was able to read it on the Hermes. So this should be no problem.
Just go to your local dealer and tell him, that you will buy it if it works with your PDA. Normally this is no problem. I tried severall MemoryCards this way in former times.
I think it's worth a try...
BrainWashed: what rom are you using?
Can you PM me the name of the driver?
Thanks!
V
If you have an SDHC card, you may try a solution from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=293556
Please report the results!
Actually, I've looked through my registry, and found all the registry settins that are installed by this CAB already there. Also the driver file required (SDHC_SC2410.dll) is sitting in my \Windows directory.
So... SDHC should work on Hermes out of the box...
Lurker - do let us know how you get on.
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Lurker - do let us know how you get on.
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If I had an access to a MicroSDHC, I'd already tried, but I'm afraid it will not happen soon.
Lurker0 said:
If you have an SDHC card, you may try a solution from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=293556
Please report the results!
Actually, I've looked through my registry, and found all the registry settins that are installed by this CAB already there. Also the driver file required (SDHC_SC2410.dll) is sitting in my \Windows directory.
So... SDHC should work on Hermes out of the box...
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Mmmh I believe it will be Hardware limitations that will create problems with SDHC cards... not software. But I could be wrong
If it's hardware related, just forget it I think we wont be able to use them...
Alcibiade said:
Mmmh I believe it will be Hardware limitations that will create problems with SDHC cards... not software. But I could be wrong
If it's hardware related, just forget it I think we wont be able to use them...
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the microSD controller in the Hermes does support SDHC... all we need is for someone to test the cards... as they are not available in AUS yet otherwise id buy one...
walshieau said:
the microSD controller in the Hermes does support SDHC... all we need is for someone to test the cards... as they are not available in AUS yet otherwise id buy one...
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They are not even on ebay otherwise i'd get one.
walshieau said:
the microSD controller in the Hermes does support SDHC... all we need is for someone to test the cards... as they are not available in AUS yet otherwise id buy one...
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I may wait for the 8Gb
has anyone been able to test this yet ?
Related
Is there a final word on the compatability of the Hermes with 4 and 8 micro sdhc cards
mpc
I have emailed HTC about this. I also dropped in a question about when they plan on releasing a ROM for the TyTN (rolls on the floor laughing.....deliberatly didnt use the acronym).
According to the FAQ on thier site there is a limitation in the OS :
What is the maximum SD card size compatible with my device?
For Win CE 2003 =>General for SDIO is 1GB.
For WM 5.0 => SD Card is 4GB and Mini-SD is 12GB
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also they claim there is no limitation whatsoever?!? But this could be for ANY of thier devices so i emailed them anyway:
Does my device have a maximum size limit for CF/SD cards?
No, as long as it's a standardized memory card (SD or CF) and a device is designed according to those standards then it will accept the card.
EDIT:: DO NOT TAKE THIS AS PROOF OF SDHC COMPATABILITY (mrvanx)
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mrvanx said:
I have emailed HTC about this. I also dropped in a question about when they plan on releasing a ROM for the TyTN (rolls on the floor laughing.....deliberatly didnt use the acronym).
According to the FAQ on thier site there is a limitation in the OS :
also they claim there is no limitation whatsoever?!? But this could be for ANY of thier devices so i emailed them anyway:
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current windows mobile 6 roms have the sdhc drivers installed too... anyone willing to buy one and try it out... as us australians always get everything 3 to 5 months later i cant try it ... plus bad experiences on scam-bay so not trying that avenue...
walshieau said:
current windows mobile 6 roms have the sdhc drivers installed too... anyone willing to buy one and try it out... as us australians always get everything 3 to 5 months later i cant try it ... plus bad experiences on scam-bay so not trying that avenue...
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Its a shame nobody has tried (or atleast posted thier findings), but hopefully a reply from HTC would help us out. Cant see why they would withold this info.
I would take the plunge and buy one but the 4GB ones are still pricey (for me) so I would have to REALLY need it for something before forking out the cash.
Code:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Drivers\BuiltIn\SDHC]
"Order"=dword:21
"Dll"="SDHC_SC2410.dll"
"Prefix"="SDH"
"DMAChannel"=dword:0 ; DMA channel to use. Set to 0xffffffff to disable DMA
"DMAIrq"=dword:24
"DMA_IST_Priority"=dword:96
"SDIOIrq"=dword:1E
"SDIO_IST_Priority"=dword:97
"PollingTimeout"=dword:100 ; 100 ms
"CardDetect_Thread_Priority"=dword:98
"CardDetectGPIO"="F" ; card detect on GPF5
"CardDetectMask"=dword:20
"CardDetectFlag"=dword:0
"CardDetectControlMask"=dword:fffff3ff
"CardDetectControlFlag"=dword:0
"CardDetectPullupMask"=dword:ffffffdf
"CardDetectPullupFlag"=dword:20
"CardReadWriteGPIO"="H" ; card R/W on GPH8
"CardReadWriteMask"=dword:100
"CardReadWriteFlag"=dword:100
"CardReadWriteControlMask"=dword:ffcfffff
"CardReadWriteControlFlag"=dword:0
"CardReadWritePullupMask"=dword:ffffffbf
"CardReadWritePullupFlag"=dword:40
"HandleBusyFinishOnCommand38"=dword:1
"DmaTransferTimeoutFactor"=dword:8
"DmaTransferTimeoutConstant"=dword:3000
"IClass"="{A32942B7-920C-486b-B0E6-92A702A99B35}" ; Power-manageable generic
This is from the WM5 Softbank X01HT 206cf370-7244-48d4-ad9f-14f33b831c3f.rgu file
Responce from HTC
It looks like it is simply a restriction in the drivers by MS according to HTC:
Dear Sir,
I am afraid to say the SDHC memory cards are unsupported by any of our handsets, to offer support for these memory cards Microsoft will need to update the drivers for Windows Mobile 5.0. We have tested our handsets with standard 2GB miniSD cards which work fine.
Thank you for your enquiry, Should you have any other problem, please do not hesitate to call us. Your Local number can be found at
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What does that say??
SDHC support has been available for quite some time now if the presence of an SDHC driver in the registry is anything to go on (I've seen it in the AKU2 ROMS). However whether it works or not is a mystery waiting to be solved....
With the "0" setting i did not loose my card today after 4h of operation...
That is for a 2GB Sandisk (not SDHC)
But anyway on SDHC:
I have gathered the following info on the net:
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SDHC (Secure Digital High-Capacity) cards are flash memory cards with a minimum capacity of 4GB (gigabytes). SDHC cards provide removable memory for compatible digital devices including cameras, camcorders, PDAs, MP3 players and more. Secure Digital refers to a specific format within the flash card market. SDHC cards are designed for devices that are compatible with the SDHC 2.00 specification. Products designed exclusively to support previous SD specifications 1.0 and 1.1 will not be able to utilize SDHC cards.
The growing demand for high-capacity flash memory springs partially from the increasing use of high-definition video and high-resolution digital photography. SDHC cards meet the challenge of these demanding products not only by providing ample storage but also by introducing a new feature: classifications of data transfer speed (DTS). Consumers can get the best performance value out of their digital products by using flash memory cards that support the device's highest standards for data transfer speed. The SDHC specification 2.00 calls for cards to be classified according to the minimal sustained DTS as follows:
* Class 2: minimum sustained DTS of 2MB/sec
* Class 4: minimum sustained DTS of 4MB/sec
* Class 6: minimum sustained DTS of 6MB/sec
SDHC cards are classified to guarantee a specific sustained DTS. This potentially saves consumers money, as flash cards are priced not only according to capacity, but also to speed. For example, if a product's maximum DTS is 2MB/sec, dishing out extra cash for Class 4 or Class 6 SDHC cards would be a waste of money. Conversely, devices that can utilize the 4MB/sec or 6MB/sec DTR will perform significantly better with Class 4 or Class 6 SDHC cards, respectively.
Secure Digital was forced to create a new specification for SDHC cards when the previous specification topped out at a capacity of 2GB. This occurred previously when SD cards hit the 512MB wall. The new 2.00 specification should last a bit longer, as it allows SDHC cards to reach a maximum capacity of 32GB. Secure Digital is so-named because of its ability to protect copyright content through digital rights management or DRM. Because of this, it is a favored flash memory format in the audiovisual industry.
SDHC cards are about the size of a postage stamp. Insiders expect them to be available through several different manufacturers by summer 2006, and prices will vary. Before purchasing, be sure your device is compatible. There are several card formats available on the market, and devices are proprietary. If a device manual does not list SDHC cards, or state it is "SD specification 2.00 compatible," the device cannot utilize these cards.
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This info does not seem fully accurate as I saw on the web a 8GM Micro SDHC...
Anyway we should validate what class the Hermes support, but I would think that Class 2 may be the the maximum speed for this device?
We should investigate further.
Is the pinout for SDHC card THE SAME as SD?
I remember I've read somewhere that pin count is greater.
I'll search on wikipedia
Did some searching, found this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-284628.html
the SDHC driver is indeed in the active driver section in the registry in our devices, but as the last post indicates, it's in microsoft's terms and doesn't stand for what we are looking for.
So in short, really pitty, but it looks like we're out of luck.
Edit: Before anyone says it: i KNOW it's a trinity thread, but there's a Hermes user in there!
nice find! SDHC = SD Host Ccontroller. Who'd have guessed it
Sleuth255 said:
nice find! SDHC = SD Host Ccontroller. Who'd have guessed it
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GUTTED!!!!!
Im gonna have to do some detective work i think, might see if we get any at work and 'ahem' survey if they work
Sleuth255 said:
nice find! SDHC = SD Host Ccontroller. Who'd have guessed it
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This SDHC is another thing..
It stands for "SD High Capacity"
Thats for sure!!!
LinoX said:
This SDHC is another thing..
It stands for "SD High Capacity"
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YES!!! High Capacity...
let me introduce myself... i come from Wizard but it was stolen from my hands at knife menace Im near of getting a hermes... I see that this big Brother of wizard has the same F#$n **** on their Card useless incompatibilitie... maybe in certificates... but here i saw less less people buyng things without read jajaja... Its nice to see people that get info after do stupid things like buy a 4GB SDHC...
Its Sad to have a great Machine without this capacity on cards...
I did it today, I have a Hermes 100 (I-mate JasJam).
To cut a long story short:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=58063&d=1194986892
I am currently running a 8GB SDHC Micro card.
Mate, if you updated your rom with a cooked rom you wouldn't need the patch as most wm06 and ALL wm6.1 roms are already sdhc compliant.
Just make sure you have Hard SPL V7 installed before upgrading so if something bad happens you at least have a chance to fix it...
Cheers...
Well I read my post and...
Absolutely right Ultramag has the reason!!!!!
SDHC microSd can be read on HERMES the last word to say it is yessss as ultrmag said the newer BUILDS ROM has the patch!!!
So enjoy your 8gb MicroSDHC and we will wait for 16 GB hahahaha i hope so...
There is any chance to see this card working in a Wizard Device??
There is a question of driver or a Hardware problem?? I have one mini SDHC 4GB Card.Trascend
Pls if any body has any idea!!
No way @ the moment!
SDHC Driver for WM6
http://rapidshare.com/files/54000980/sdhc-driver-x500.zip
Thx m8 but still is not working, i thik is a hardware problem ... the wizard dose not suport SDHC.
As stated in many other threads, SDHC will never come to the Wizard, the hardware does not support it, and no matter how many times people ask, it will still not work.
/end rant
Actually SDHC is not a hardware issue but rather a driver issue to understand the new format of the SDHC cards.
- TKN
Im a little bit confused with MINI-SD & MINI-SDHC.
According to wat i'd read was HTC WIZARD mini-sd, expandable upto 2GB.
I want to buy a 4gb card.
Will it work with my Wizard - HT617 ???
Will an SDHC card work?? or Do i need a MINI SD - 4GB only???
If yes, Wher can i get a 4GB MINI SD(non sdhc) card??? plz post new active links.....of sellers....
Plz Xcuse for my kiddo Questions......
Tmob(US) - G3 - Wizard
SIM n CID Unlocked.
IPL/SPL 2.26
Radio - 2.47.11
Edit/Delete Message
Have a thread in HTC Universal about a member who developped a .cab file and a ROM that read mini SdHC. Universal, as we now, is windows mobile too. I tryed the cab on my Qtek A9100 e doesn't work.
But I'm still holdind my sdhc card. Let's wait. They will find a solution.
My english is bad? Sorry.
tariq_niazi said:
Actually SDHC is not a hardware issue but rather a driver issue to understand the new format of the SDHC cards.
- TKN
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finally someone that thinks the same as me. like i said my self too that its a driver problem. i have a dell axim x50v upgraded to wm6(cool ) and it supports SDHC cards and this device was made maybe when the prototypes of SDHC cards where being made.
I feel that right now they wont work but later we will get them to work.
4 GB Mini SD
I've been using a 4 gig card now for a few months - every 30 days or so have to reformat the card. Working though. Bought mine on Ebay.
4 Gb works very well, but SDHC, don't.
hblago said:
4 Gb works very well, but SDHC, don't.
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Agreed SDHC doesn't work at all, but to say 4GB works "very well" is totally misleading. Look at all the posts from people reporting problems with 4GB cards. You're extremely lucky indeed if you can find a totally reliable 4GB non-SDHC card. Even people reporting success tend to post again a couple of months later reporting corruption or total breakdown of the card.
So there is no driver out there for SDHC?
I guess that means upgrading to WM6.....
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So there is no driver out there for SDHC?
I guess that means upgrading to WM6.....
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WM6 won't help either. There's rumour of support in some roms but nobody actually running an SDHC card.
I was thinking that it might be possible to produce a hardware SDHC Transflash to SD Mini adapter. The problem lies in how the card is addressed, so if an SD Mini adapter could be made with a built-in SD to SDHC interface the problem would effectively go away. There might be some incentive for the industry to produce such an interface if the price of >4GB SDHC Transflash cards drops low enough.
I guess there might be overheads in access times and power consumption though. Any thoughts?
Oooo, a month passed, but no driver for wizard appeared.
How about Wizard SDHC?
anybody can you tell which non SDHC 4gb card tu buy ?
I want to know which is the fastest ? or bestest ?
mrobo said:
anybody can you tell which non SDHC 4gb card tu buy ?
I want to know which is the fastest ? or bestest ?
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A search may have revealed this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=297324
Absolutly works, go for it my freind. Who said no? Just in case make sure you install SDHC storage driver, if needed.
IceCube1976 said:
There is any chance to see this card working in a Wizard Device??
There is a question of driver or a Hardware problem?? I have one mini SDHC 4GB Card.Trascend
Pls if any body has any idea!!
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I want to know which is the fastest ? or bestest ? [/QUOTE]
I bought a minisd card no sdhc and it works great, it has no label of brand only minisd i look at several and they look all the same to me, probably they are made in the same place and they only change the label But if you whant a faster card try one of sandisk extreme maybe there is one without sdhc. Hope it helps
I've been using a Topram 4gb miniSD for almost a year now and have never had it fail or had to re-format it.
http://cgi.ebay.com/TOPRAM-4GB-Mini...ryZ18871QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Hello, i am looking for a card, will this work
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820171169
Also has anyone tested an 8GB SDHC? like this?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820178151
I am not sure if this are micro are not. When i go to newegg, MicroSD and SDHC are different categories. Thanks for any help.
UllSang,
The links you posted are for Secure Digital (SD) card sizes. The Hermes uses microSD cards. These are much smaller physically.
Both SD and microSD have the high capacity version (SDHC and microSDHC).
MicroSDHC cards work on the Hermes only with the latest cooked versions of WM6.
The second one is a standard 8GB SD card, afaik there isnt an 8GB MicroSDHC just yet.
We know 4GB microSDHC definatly works (you need a recent version of WM6).
you do realize those are sd cards right?
oooppss. . .sorry.. didnt realize sombebody has made the correct point.
hey mrvanx sir. you might want to fix the link on your ROM: part of your signature.. (or is that just a teaser? )
Hmm. I had a feeling that it was not microSD. Good think i asked before i bought one. So can anyone point me in the direction of a 4GB microSDHC? Thanks a bunch.
http://www.google.com/products?q=4gb+microsdhc
UllSang said:
Hmm. I had a feeling that it was not microSD. Good think i asked before i bought one. So can anyone point me in the direction of a 4GB microSDHC? Thanks a bunch.
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y? if u need space, just get a 2GB microSD. dont u want to upgrade to a VGA pdaphone very soon? i'm not sure if the real Imate 7150 or HTC omni support microSD or not
What do you mean a VGA pda phone? I also just bought my Hermes therefore i would rather not spend a lot of cash on a new phone.
Man those 4 GB SDHC cards are soo expensive. i can get a few 4 2GB for the price of one of those.
8Gb microSDHC card
An 8GB card is on its way but when who knows, check it out at http://www.tech.co.uk/gadgets/phone...b-into-tiny-microsd-card?articleid=1995413938
SanDisk 6mb and 8mb here by the year end.
weebit said:
An 8GB card is on its way but when who knows, check it out at http://www.tech.co.uk/gadgets/phone...b-into-tiny-microsd-card?articleid=1995413938
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I posted this article on the above subject. This wil shed a little light on the subject.
Cheers
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=316860
UllSang said:
Hmm. I had a feeling that it was not microSD. Good think i asked before i bought one. So can anyone point me in the direction of a 4GB microSDHC? Thanks a bunch.
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This is the one i got and is working great.
Thanks for all the great information everyone.
http://www.mymemory.co.uk/news
SanDisk today announced that it is has begun sampling 6 and 8 gigabyte (GB) microSD High Capacity (microSDHC) flash memory cards to major phone manufacturers and mobile network operators (MNOs) for testing and evaluation. The new cards are ideal for the growing number of feature-rich multimedia handsets that bring together phones, music players, hand-held computers, digital cameras and more. An 8GB microSDHC card can store more than 2,000 digital songs, or more than 5,000 high-resolution pictures, or up to 5 hours of high-quality MPEG 4 video2.
Retail release of the cards and availability to phone manufacturers and network operators are planned for later in 2007.
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agoyeneche said:
UllSang,MicroSDHC cards work on the Hermes only with the latest cooked versions of WM6.
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Will LVSW 3.30.2.1 version support 4GBMicroSDHC cards? That's what I'm using.
Check your build # and read!! This HAS been asked many times before. Hint-- There are other threads concerning 4gb microsdhc.
http://www.techshout.com/hardware/2007/12/...rld-conference/
Has anyone tried a 4GB Micro SD in the StrTrk?? Any issues?
Thanks
MrMiguel said:
http://www.techshout.com/hardware/2007/12/...rld-conference/
Has anyone tried a 4GB Micro SD in the StrTrk?? Any issues?
Thanks
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That link sucks.
i dont think it wil work. 4 GB transflash is only SDHC... at least in Star Trek it is imho impossible to use
moneytoo said:
i dont think it wil work. 4 GB transflash is only SDHC... at least in Star Trek it is imho impossible to use
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They also sell non SDHC.. So it's a buggy crap, but some people claim it works. I tried one made by Dysan, actualy it was 3.9GB. It worked in STR TRK, until I reached the maximum. Then all data was like lost.
MrMiguel: rather get a 1GB SD card. Not sure for what you need so much space. I have 2x 1GB SD and it works fine. If I know I will make demos, I change the card in my phone.
nevermind said:
They also sell non SDHC.. So it's a buggy crap, but some people claim it works. I tried one made by Dysan, actualy it was 3.9GB. It worked in STR TRK, until I reached the maximum. Then all data was like lost.
MrMiguel: rather get a 1GB SD card. Not sure for what you need so much space. I have 2x 1GB SD and it works fine. If I know I will make demos, I change the card in my phone.
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It's such a pain to change out the MicroSD cards in this phone, though. That is the point of having the largest one you can get.
Obsolete
The hardware requirements are different for SDHC cards. The 8525 actually has a SDHC card reader (32GB), but WM5 only supported regular SD (2GB max). When people cooked WM6 ROMs for the 8525, they made sure to include new SDHC drivers, allowing up to 32GB cards.
I'm not sure what type of card reader hardware the 3125 has, but it seems likely it is only a regular SD reader, as the 3125 is more similar to the 8125 than the 8525. The 8125 only has a regular SD reader. Even if the 3125 does have hardware support for SDHC, it doesn't seem all that likely that there will ever be a WM6 ROM for it, as HTC isn't releasing one, and the developer community here doesn't seem that motivated.
The limitation is not on the OS at least as far as reading 4gb is concerned. As long as the card is not sdhc. I have a 4gb sd card fully loaded with 3.5gb+ data and programs. My htc universal has no problems reading and writing to it. Very fast, too. Even my old Toshiba E800 sees all the circa 3.98 gb in both read and write mode. There are even 8gb non sdhc cards out. I have not tried them but people who report that they work just fine. I have not seen a transflash 4gb card that is non sdhc, but I have no doubt it exists.
"Jozer99 . . . The hardware requirements are different for SDHC cards."
The HTC Universal was shipped as Non-SDHC, however the latest ROM's have been providing SDHC with the existing hardware. It seems to be more an issue of the drivers, not the hardware.
any news?
I still have a 4GB card lying around, I'd like to use it. Is it possible?
GvIn2it said:
I would also like an answer to this question. Here is a link that claims it does:
http://store.wmexperts.com/content/accessories/7-128--2803.htm
I have an 8525 running this 4GB card but it is running WM6 and someone said that is the only way to get 8525 to read this card. If true that means WM6 would also be req'd on the StrTrk. I'm interested because my daughter wants a decent Cingular phone that will store 4GB of MP3's. If it does I will buy her an 3125.
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Cingular 3125 is pretty crappy for listening to music. Buy a simpler MP3 phone. The headphone jack on the 3125 is proprietary, and the included earbuds are awful. The music player is Windows Media Player, which is somewhat buggy, occasionally skips and crashes.
The hardware requirements ARE different. HTC shipped many devices with SDHC card slots, but with OS support for only regular SD. However, some older HTC devices actually DID have SD only slots, so it is not possible to use SDHC cards with them. HTC hasn't really released device specs, so the only way to know for sure will be to port WM6 and see if it works.
stynos said:
I still have a 4GB card lying around, I'd like to use it. Is it possible?
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Just pop it in and see if it works. There are genuine non sdhc 4g sd cards.
mo go
sofene said:
Just pop it in and see if it works. There are genuine non sdhc 4g sd cards.
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I tried it before... it doesn't work... too bad...
stynos said:
I still have a 4GB card lying around, I'd like to use it. Is it possible?
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Please tell us: what kind of card? SDHC or non-standard SD?
This is what HTC.wiki says:
microSD slot NOT capable of SDHC; maximum theoretical capacity is 4GB, which has been confirmed through several reports from HTC, wherein they stated the phone has been "tested up to 4GB". Though user reports of this are not present, 4GB non-SDHC microSD cards are rare as well.
http://www.htcwiki.com/page/Qtek+8500+Specs?t=anon
so maximum capacity is 4 GB THEORETICALLY!! They have no user reports till now! What do you say?
Found this cab for SDHC for smartphones:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=351586
Does it really work with your SDHC and StarTrek so I can buy one for me, too?
Micro SD 2 GB
I am using 2 Gb micro SD in my Dopod S301. Its working fine. I have yet not seen a 4Gb micro SD. If you have one I think you can use it !!!
I tried the SDHC Support Kit on my 3125 and it didn't work. And still haven't found a 4 gig non SDHC card yet. hopefully someone will come out with one soon, or a hack that would allow an SDHC card to work.
Nokia MU-41 4GB microSD card
The Nokia MU-41 4GB microSD card appears to be non-SDHC, as the pictures of it do not show HC on it, even though sellers of it advertise it as SDHC (see here for example) - but ad blurbs often say "High Capacity" - well, yes, it is High Capacity, but maybe it is not Secure Digital High Capacity, and there is a difference that is more than just FAT32 formatting, as can be seen by trying to use an SDHC card in an older card reader on a PC - won't work - got to use one that is SDHC 2.0 compatible.
The Sandisk website has a good explanation of the differences:
"The SD High Capacity (SDHCTM) card, miniSD High Capacity (miniSDHCTM) card, and microSD High Capacity (microSDHCTM) card are the new SD™ memory cards based on the SDA 2.00 specification, introduced by the SD Card Association. This new SDA 2.00 specification enables SD cards to reach higher capacities: 4GB - 32GB*.
Because SDHC, miniSDHC, and microSDHC cards are recognized by new SDHC, miniSDHC, microSDHC host devices differently than standard SD, miniSD, and microSD cards, they are [FONT=Tahoma,Tahoma]not [/FONT]backwards compatible with legacy SD, miniSD, and microSD format host devices. Standard SD, miniSD, and microSD cards are forward compatible with new SDHC, miniSDHC, and microSDHC host devices.
Legacy SD/miniSD/microSD host devices and SD/miniSD/microSD cards (up to 2GB) are FAT 16 file system compatible, while the new SDA version 2.00 file system specification defines a SD FAT 32 file system for the new SDHC/miniSDHC/microSDHC host devices and cards.
Be aware of non-SDA 2.00 specification compliant SD 4GB, miniSD 4GB, and microSD 4GB cards on the market. If these non-compliant SD/miniSD/microSD 4GB cards record data in a SDHC host, and are then used in a legacy SD/miniSD/microSD host, issues and problems may occur. File system incompatibility, data corruption, and potentially you may actually lose the data/pictures. In addition, if these non-compliant SD/miniSD/microSD 4GB cards are inserted into a legacy SD/miniSD/microSD host device, the host device may not recognize/utilize the card as 4GB, and it instead may read as a 2GB card. If the SD/miniSD/microSD 4GB card does not have SDHC/miniSDHC/microSDHC on it, it is not SD 2.00 compliant.More SDHC, miniSDHC, microSDHC compatible devices are expected to be available in 2007. To ensure compatibility, look for the SDHC/miniSDHC/microSDHC logo on cards and host devices (cameras, camcorders, etc.)"
Based on this, I am hopeful that a 4GB microSD that is NOT labeled with the SDHC logo (like the Nokia MU-41), may work with older devices such as the StarTrek. I know there are 4GB miniSD cards that are non-SDHC, because I have one, and it works fine in my 8125, where an SDHC card will not.
Hi can i use a SDXC in the KB SD reader?
can i use this card http://www.webhallen.com/hardvara/112033-kingston_secure_digital_card_64gb in the keyboard and this card
http://www.webhallen.com/hardvara/141185-samsung_microsdhc_32gb
In the tablet?
THX!
I really need to know before i buy those SD:s that they will work!
Anyone know if my setup will work?
THX!
/tyvar1
i Think it´s possible
They both should work.
halljo said:
i Think it´s possible
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gertschl said:
They both should work.
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Thx! i will first se how much GB i am going to use on my Tablet! if i dont need more than the 34 gb included i will not get any SD cars but if i se i will need more i will get some!
Thx again!
For reference I can say that I have used a Sandisk Extreme 16 GB UHS-1 SDHC. Wikipedia states that SDXC cards can be read by SDHC readers, albeit some specialized features won't work.
... SDHC host devices will accept SDXC cards that follow Version 3.0, since the interface is identical, but the following issues may affect usability...
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So you should have no problems, since the issues are mainly with some extended feature flags in the SDXC protocol, e.g. for speed control. SDXC cards are also formatted in exFat format, but I can report that my Prime was able to read my card when formatted to exFat. exFat also supports file sizes over 4 GB which FAT 32 does not, and this is nice espcially for those 2 hr mkvs
What about transfer rates ?
ph0ton said:
For reference I can say that I have used a Sandisk Extreme 16 GB UHS-1 SDHC. Wikipedia states that SDXC cards can be read by SDHC readers, albeit some specialized features won't work.
My question would be what transfer rates are supported. I've been eyeballing the 95mb/s cards
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