[V speaking: This thread is for general GPS discussions. Please use this thread to report solid facts. Thanks!]
Today weve learned from the neighbours forum that GPS One is alive and very much kicking... Our Hermes seems to have the same Chipset and same Qualcomm 6275 chip, now the big question is - once our baby brother mastered its GPS, whataboutus (what about us..)..
Any thoughts..
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Saar
Very good question indeed, do you mean we could have a gps inside our hermes now?
This sounds interesting
This isn't new news, and so far there have been zero indications from HTC re: making GPS a live feature on the Hermes...
goestoeleven said:
This isn't new news, and so far there have been zero indications from HTC re: making GPS a live feature on the Hermes...
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Of course it ain't news.. it's just that at this exact moment I'm uploading the GPS enabled ROM on my Trinity... it is supossed to work in 10 mins.
And henceforce I'm calling all Hermes Gods here.. make it happen for our Hermeses as well... pleeeeeeaaaaaseeeee !!
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Saar
Post your result!
EUREKA
hknoener said:
Post your result!
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Guys IT WORKS... to all those unbelievers... I've upgraded the ROM in a chinch, installed IGO 2006 and with trembling hands activated the GPS:
1. Fix was almost immediate
2. Sat. discovery was beyond expectations - 7 Sats
3. Almanach saved (meaning next GPS off/on got me immediate fix)
4. GPS Accuracy (DOP) = 1.2
Now all unbelievers, eat your hats.
All remaining is to adapt DOPOD ROM to our Hermeses. Let's see now what we can do here.
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Saar
SaarAvigour said:
Guys IT WORKS... to all those unbelievers... I've upgraded the ROM in a chinch, installed IGO 2006 and with trembling hands activated the GPS:
1. Fix was almost immediate
2. Sat. discovery was beyond expectations - 7 Sats
3. Almanach saved (meaning next GPS off/on got me immediate fix)
4. GPS Accuracy (DOP) = 1.2
Now all unbelievers, eat your hats.
All remaining is to adapt DOPOD ROM to our Hermeses. Let's see now what we can do here.
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Saar
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wow that is some great news! but one question that comes to my head is why on earth would HTC block this feature if the device could do it? shouldnt it be other way arround where they could have used it to make tytn more attractive??? anyhow if the gps thing work my tytn will be perfect!
i||uSi0n^
SaarAvigour said:
All remaining is to adapt DOPOD ROM to our Hermeses. Let's see now what we can do here.
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Dopod ROM with GPS enabled from Trinity won't boot on Hermes. The GPS is enabled by the RADIO (see trinity radio rom versions end in .11). Both devices have similar radio, but AFAIK no one tried to flash a trinity radio on hermes.
See this thread for more information on the GPS in hermes devices:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=279151
pof said:
Both devices have similar radio, but AFAIK no one tried to flash a trinity radio on hermes.
See this thread for more information on the GPS in hermes devices:
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Hi Pof, that's exactly what I'm saying, and I don't expect it to be a 1-2-3 thing either.. It's only that about a month ago I published an article investigating the GPS enigma on the Trinity. The investigation has led me to the conclusion that Trinity does have a GPS, but also to the fact that Trinity and Hermes share similar radio and same Qualcom chip with GPS One on board.
So earlier today I get a phone call from a friend telling me of the Dopod ROM for the Trinity enabling GPS. I couldn't wait anymore, fetched me a Trinity, dlded the ROM (while still available..) and in ~10 Mins., Voila, I'm holding in my hands the proof for my investigation and article.
Then I thout to myself..hmm.. next case, now let's prove that this can work on the Hermes as well (a side assumption in my article). If it can, it's gonna make the Hermes the real king of the hill... HSDPA, All-Band, Video-Call, Qwerty, 2MP Macro Cam., Fast CPU...now add a GPS and one has THE best yet PPCPE ever available.
I'll drink for that, .
Saar
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Saar Avigour
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Israel
Almost too good to be true
I am all ears let's try this happen...
correct me if I'm wrong here, but I believe we need buy in from operators too. They support gpsOne by providing the system that crunches raw fixes into positional information. In this case, a hermes would send raw data to and endpoint on (say Cingular's) network and services there would convert to fix & return.
I may be all wrong here but that was how I interpreted gpsOne.
So will that Rom work on the Hermes? I have the Cingular 8525 and i had an option to download a software for GPS from Cingular for a monthly fee but i just use my BT-338 & iGo.
Sleuth255 said:
correct me if I'm wrong here, but I believe we need buy in from operators too. They support gpsOne by providing the system that crunches raw fixes into positional information. In this case, a hermes would send raw data to and endpoint on (say Cingular's) network and services there would convert to fix & return.
I may be all wrong here but that was how I interpreted gpsOne.
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well if its true what you say and that it is sure they will support trinity's gpsOne + given that tytn has exactly same gpsOne = shouldnt tytn be supported too automatically?
i||uSi0n^
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correct me if I'm wrong here, but I believe we need buy in from operators too. They support gpsOne by providing the system that crunches raw fixes into positional information. In this case, a hermes would send raw data to and endpoint on (say Cingular's) network and services there would convert to fix & return.
I may be all wrong here but that was how I interpreted gpsOne.
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From what i've understood that's not really the case. gpsOne can function as a normal standalone gps device, with the added feature that it can rely on assistance from the cellular network if it supports it. This results in a quicker fix and better accuracy. (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assisted_GPS)
But standalone GPS should be possible!
The only question that remains is:
Is the GPS hardware of the hermes connected in a functional way?
The chips are there, but is there an antenna? And does GPS need a separate antenna? I can't see a lot of differences on internal photo's of Trinity and Hermes.
If all radios use the same antenna and if it's connected to the Qualcomm RFR6250 chip, the trinity radio rom just might enable GPS on Hermes. I certainly hope so.
And where is the antenna in the trinity?
I think we can compare the pictures of hermes and trinity that are in the FTP. If you see they are very similar.
I bet hermes has a gps, but htc didn't advertise maybe because battery problems, software problems or even hardware problems.
But first we need to find where is the antenna in trinity and then,see if we have a similar thing in hermes.
ok, if anyone has the balls to flash a trinity radio on hermes PM me... but this will most likely kill the device, I don't want to try with my hermes
@ionide: tks for the clarification! I just wasn't sure given what I was reading.
@pof: mine aren't big enough... too many unknowns.
We ultimately need a (goldcard?) solution that is guaranteed to bring back a hermes from brickdom...
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@ionide: tks for the clarification! I just wasn't sure given what I was reading.
@pof: mine aren't big enough... too many unknowns.
We ultimately need a (goldcard?) solution that is guaranteed to bring back a hermes from brickdom...
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or ask someone at HTC very nicely for the relevant pointers then let the community do the rest
Off-topic: What is this goldcard thing i keep reading about?
I just bought a orange spv m3100 from ebay and am waiting for it to arrive, probably around wednesday, at which time i will reflash it with wm6 black shadow. Anyways, im also getting a new pc and ps3, so im getting a bluetooth keybaord, as it can work with both. I was wondering if it will work out of the box with the refalshed tytn.this may seem like a stupid question, but i think its relevant.
thanks in advance
rory
I used my microsoft bluetooth keyboard with my TyTn with orginal rom no problem. In fact it was harder to get it to work with the PC!
Hello,
Although I have a Kaiser, I still have my old vodafone badged Hermes which has been upgraded to WM6. However, it had the standard HTC green theme and no Home plugin or associated extras. I tried the 'official HTC' rom upgrade but it badged everything as a dopod and still didn't include Home.
Is there a working rom with the black theme, htc badged and including what I'm after?
You could just cook your own with the various themes in it?? Check out the pandora kitchen, its easy.
RapsJam said:
Hello,
Although I have a Kaiser, I still have my old vodafone badged Hermes which has been upgraded to WM6. However, it had the standard HTC green theme and no Home plugin or associated extras. I tried the 'official HTC' rom upgrade but it badged everything as a dopod and still didn't include Home.
Is there a working rom with the black theme, htc badged and including what I'm after?
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K's 1.30b full will probably be the best one for your needs.
Thanks for the replies. However, since I asked the question, my Hermes seems to have gone weird. It seems to be stuck on the screen align. It recognises each tap on the crosses but then starts again each time. I know that usually this is a sign of pressure elsewhere on the screen but I've stripped it down twice now and cleaned the screen each time. I've also checked the connections for shorts or damage and there are none.
Looks like this is a project 'on hold' for the moment...
I am selling my last Wizard G4. It has WM6.1 OS 5.2.20273 TNT series. ROM version 11.0.4.1 WWE Radio 02.25.11 Protocal 4.1.13.12 Almost perfect condition. Comes with 1GB Mini card, AC charger, USB cable and OE case. It has only very small marks from carrycase, no marks on screen at all. Everything on the phone works flawlessly. I sold my SX66 and my other Wizard already and now this one is going. If anyone is interested please PM me or find me on MSN messenger. Thanks, Kevin
im not sure this is the place for selling your device. for me this place doesnt sound like a marketplace for used devices, but maybe thats just me...
I wish there was a Clasifieds section, but theres not. I figured I would see if anyone is interested here (family first) before listing it on Ebay.
Hi all,
Yes I'm new, and i was wondering if I could have a bit of help please?
I have a Neon200, and the Nike stuff obviously doesn't work for it. Saying that however, I have gone through the Neon Hard-SPL, from here > http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=377260
and then i upgraded to a russian 6.1 (which is also on the board somewhere), and now plan to move to 6.5. I found one here, but apparently will have issues with the keyboard and the camera button.
My question is, is anyone else working on a ROM for wm6.5 that will work on my neon200? Or is there anyway to get a niki rom to work on it?
Thanks, and sorry if I've just asked a bunch of noob questions.
I got the 6.5 rom to work on my phone (albeit with limited physical key support)
But now I'm having the issue of my sim not working in there (no service, denied, searching..)
Think this is because the radio I have for it now doesn't work.
Can anyone help me with that?
My phone is the Neon200 (duh..), from Telstra NextG in Australia.
Cheers guys
Yeah.. I've been poking around a bit as well.. I think the official HTC image is only 6.1.. so if anyone can port the Niki 6.5 over it would be great!
Hmm...
It may be an issue with thephone. I still have it, and also have a 16 key NIKI100 now, as well as the touch diamond.
Think i'll just sell the other ones and stick with the diamond.