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Just upgrade my X01HT to 1.33.761.4 but the bootloader also upgrade to 1.09. How can I downgrade to 1.04? Thanks
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=284401
steiale said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=284401
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Just downgrade to 1.04 now, thanks
Confirmation for the downgrade_spl
Hello
i got the file downgrade_spl.rar from net. After unzipping with winrar i see a file "downgrade_spl.nbf" inside it of size 769kb. Please confirm me if this is the correct file.
Also please let me know where do i find "ROMUpgradeUt.exe" file.
Thanks
This is the wrong filesize!
give me an e-mail and i`ll send u a tools.
please help me!!!!
I need tool for O2 trion, please help me.thanks
I need files, too.
Hello.
I'm searching for the files, "Downgrade_spl.nbf" and "ROMUpgradeUt.exe".
Anyone tell me where I get there, please?
and,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=284401
This solution is useful for SPL1.09?
version 1.09
x01ht bootloader version 1.09 can unlock rightnow ma...?please
unfortunately no.. pof mentioned something about the new ROM not having the write feature..
mizuchi said:
unfortunately no.. pof mentioned something about the new ROM not having the write feature..
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correct. it requires to be able to flash the radio stack in order to unlock it, but the radio stack of that new rom seems to be read only and flashing another radio stack is not possible at this time.
I could not find in google as well but get somewhere else with slighly different filename. Not sure the same one or not. Can somebody please confirm,
Get it here.
http://www.filemirrors.com/search.src?type=begins&file=DownGrade
It's possible.
Hello I'm french, first sorry for my bad english.
I just bought a V1605 from england that I have immediatly unlocked.
I have tested French qtek ROM 1.18.256... but it's very slow and there are many bugs, after that I have tested a WWE qtek ROM 1.18.416... with bootloader 1.06 just for see if TCPMP was better and it is!
But I wanted the last Qtek ROM, so I have put the original ROM of my vodafone in order to downgrade bootloader to 1.04, it's very simple!
Then I've installed the latest QTEK ROM 1.35 with bootloader 1.09, and now after few very fast manipulations , I have bootloader 1.04 and radio 1.20.
So I can test every ROMs I think...
For the moment, I can see that this ROM (1.35) is very fast, and TCPMP works better but for the video it is the same than vodafone 1.20 or tytn 1.18.416 .
ghz said:
I could not find in google as well but get somewhere else with slighly different filename. Not sure the same one or not. Can somebody please confirm,
Get it here.
http://www.filemirrors.com/search.src?type=begins&file=DownGrade
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Doesn't look like those are relevant.
1.04 to current boot rom?
After downgrading to 1.04 and doing all the upgrades, is there any reason to reupgrade 1.04 to a more current boot rom?
hi there,
seems i`m not able to downgrade after after flashing the 1.35 rom. my bootloader remains 1.09 and the downgrade_spl (1.8mb rar) tool doesn`t work properly. i always have to recover my device when i try to run the upgrade. is there something i do wrong or is my downgrade_spl the wrong one?
thanks jammerlappen
additional questions: am i able to flash a) other radio roms b) complete roms with bl 1.09 and supercid?
jammerlappen said:
is there something i do wrong?
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http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_Howto_Bootloader104&version=2
jammerlappen said:
additional questions: am i able to flash a) other radio roms b) complete roms with bl 1.09 and supercid?
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a) no
b) yes
may something be wrong with the link in your llink?
thank you anyway! it is good news, i didn`t break my tytn (-:
it is an old revision of a page where there where the instructions initially... so the link is not there anymore... but you said you have it.
hmmm, the files i have obviously do not work
Hi all,
recently i upgrade my Tytn to last rom available here. I´m a bit disapoiting about this upgrade so i´m considering the possibility to roll-back to original rom.
Since last upgrade change my bootloader to 1.09 and my original was 1.04, to roll-back i just have to run rom package or i have to do something before the downgrade?
Thanks in advance
phariseu said:
Hi all,
recently i upgrade my Tytn to last rom available here. I´m a bit disapoiting about this upgrade so i´m considering the possibility to roll-back to original rom.
Since last upgrade change my bootloader to 1.09 and my original was 1.04, to roll-back i just have to run rom package or i have to do something before the downgrade?
Thanks in advance
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Can you tell the inital and upgraded ROM / Bootloader versions ?
Hi,
I had this package:
ROM - 1.18.255.3 07/22/06
ExtROM - 1.18.255.106
Radio - 1.03.03.10
Bootloader - 1.04
and i instaled last one available here.
Rom - 1.35.255.2 11/14/06
Bootloader - 1.09
(....)
Let me say that i bought my Tytn "free" unlock. I have no problem about this issue.
Is there any problem instaling original package? Bootlader turns again to 1.04 or remains 1.09?
Thanks in advance
i think you still can downgrade it to the original rom version as the CID is the same, but the bootloader should remain 1.09. here's a quote from the wiki.
Bootloader 1.09 DOES NOT allow DOWNGRADING of itself by means of flashing earlier ROMs. Once installed it is IMPOSSIBLE to DOWNGRADE SPL 1.09 to 1.06 or 1.04 by regular means!
harryk1372 said:
i think you still can downgrade it to the original rom version as the CID is the same, but the bootloader should remain 1.09. here's a quote from the wiki.
Bootloader 1.09 DOES NOT allow DOWNGRADING of itself by means of flashing earlier ROMs. Once installed it is IMPOSSIBLE to DOWNGRADE SPL 1.09 to 1.06 or 1.04 by regular means!
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doesn't making the device SuperCID fix this problem?
[edit] and by problem, I don't mean getting 1.04 back, I mean there's really no point since you can flash any ROM you wish anyway, and I'm seriously asking cause I'm not sure [/edit]
diseage said:
doesn't making the device SuperCID fix this problem?
[edit] and by problem, I don't mean getting 1.04 back, I mean there's really no point since you can flash any ROM you wish anyway, and I'm seriously asking cause I'm not sure [/edit]
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yes, if your device is supercid, you can flash the roms from different vendors. what is recommended for all is making the device supercid while you are still at the bootloader 1.04. if your device was made supercid while you had the original rom with the bootloader 1.04, you shouldn't have any problems with flashing whichever rom although the bottloader will remain 1.09 in your case.
You can flash any ROM that matches your CID. If you have SuperCID you can flash every ROM. The bootloader will remain 1.09 though.
I have searched and tried to find this answer, but now I am more confused... So please be gentle with the flaming.
I have an unlocked Cingular 8525. I down graded to bootloader 1.04 using Cingular ROM 1.30.502.1 and SUCCESSFULLY made my device superCID according to the detail direction in the wiki. THANKS FOR THE INSTRUCTIONS!!!
My confusion comes with the fact that I want to have newest OEM ROM from Cingular, 1.34.502.1, but I also want to upgrade the radio version... But when I upgrade to the newer 1.34.502.1 ROM, I get bootloader 1.06... BUT I read that I need bootloader 1.04 to change the radioROM... But as far I read, I would have to go back down to the earlier 1.30.502.1 ROM.
QUESTION:
How do I keep bootloader 1.04 with upgrading back to ROM 1.34.502.1, so I can have the newer ROM and be able to upgrade my RadioROM also?
Thanks
Ron
lokmeup said:
I have searched and tried to find this answer, but now I am more confused... So please be gentle with the flaming.
I have an unlocked Cingular 8525. I down graded to bootloader 1.04 using Cingular ROM 1.30.502.1 and SUCCESSFULLY made my device superCID according to the detail direction in the wiki. THANKS FOR THE INSTRUCTIONS!!!
My confusion comes with the fact that I want to have newest OEM ROM from Cingular, 1.34.502.1, but I also want to upgrade the radio version... But when I upgrade to the newer 1.34.502.1 ROM, I get bootloader 1.06... BUT I read that I need bootloader 1.04 to change the radioROM... But as far I read, I would have to go back down to the earlier 1.30.502.1 ROM.
QUESTION:
How do I keep bootloader 1.04 with upgrading back to ROM 1.34.502.1, so I can have the newer ROM and be able to upgrade my RadioROM also?
Thanks
Ron
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Downgrade then install the 1.01MFG bootloader. After that extract the OS from the NBH of the ROM you want and flash it. You can then keep 1.01MFG bootloader or change it back to 1.04. Its all in the wiki.
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Downgrade then install the 1.01MFG bootloader. After that extract the OS from the NBH of the ROM you want and flash it. You can then keep 1.01MFG bootloader or change it back to 1.04. Its all in the wiki.
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Ahhh... thanks for the push in the right direction!
Ron
Couldn't you just upgrade the Radio and the Extended Rom and still have the old boot loader?
Wouldn't this provide the same end result?
lokmeup said:
I have searched and tried to find this answer, but now I am more confused... So please be gentle with the flaming.
I have an unlocked Cingular 8525. I down graded to bootloader 1.04 using Cingular ROM 1.30.502.1 and SUCCESSFULLY made my device superCID according to the detail direction in the wiki. THANKS FOR THE INSTRUCTIONS!!!
My confusion comes with the fact that I want to have newest OEM ROM from Cingular, 1.34.502.1, but I also want to upgrade the radio version... But when I upgrade to the newer 1.34.502.1 ROM, I get bootloader 1.06... BUT I read that I need bootloader 1.04 to change the radioROM... But as far I read, I would have to go back down to the earlier 1.30.502.1 ROM.
QUESTION:
How do I keep bootloader 1.04 with upgrading back to ROM 1.34.502.1, so I can have the newer ROM and be able to upgrade my RadioROM also?
Thanks
Ron
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I had the EXACT same question...It turns out that you can upgrade the radio with the German version since your device is SuperCID. So I was able to upgrade to radio 1.27 with BL 1.06
..... and then....
I learned about the 1.01MFG wiki ... and I followed the instructions and was able to (first) flash 1.01MFG and (second) flash BL 1.04... so now I have 1.34 ROM, 1.27 Radio and 1.04 BL...
It took alot of reading and questions for me to figure it out....I hope my pain is your gain.
I've extracted the radio ROM from latest Trinity ROM and packaged here as a standalone NBH radio upgrade:
HERM_RADIO_1.38.00.11_Only_SSPL.rarThis radio has HTC_BOOT 0108 and GPS enabled.
Keep in mind that the safest procedure to upgrade your radio right now is:
Flash Hard-SPL v1.10.Oli on your phone
Flash the desired radio upgrade using the RUU package
Both steps have to be done with phone connected to computer through USB cable and activesync enabled, Des SSPL will be pushed into your phone when the RUU starts.
Remember that when flashing a radio only you don't need to hard-reset your phone, so no data will be lost.
Enjoy!
Excellent! Have you given this radio a work-out yet??
still flashing 92%
Edit: Flashed and working fine (see attached image), but still haven't seen any noticeable difference
What news with this radio ? most stable, battery ingrasse ?
pof said:
Keep in mind that the safest procedure to upgrade your radio right now is:
Flash Hard-SPL v1.10.Oli on your phone
Flash the desired radio upgrade using the RUU package
Enjoy!
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Pof ,I understand 1.10.Oli will somehow protect us from bricking device by flashing a wrong radio.But since it is base on 1.04 ,so it will not support Radio BL 0108,so if I am now having 0108 here,and I flash this rodio 1.38,and I got a bad flash,I still can not repair my device.Is that right?
Radio-BL 0108 or something newer?
Hope the battery-duration will be better than in 1.35 Radio
@qvik123: If that happens you have two options to unbrick your device:
1) wait for a hard SPL based on 1.09 (which AFAIK Des will release soon), once you have it reflash the radio again.
2) You will still be able to flash an OS only because hardSPL will still keep the "fake" SuperCID on your device, so flash a OS image with KITL enabled and then use the KITL mehtod to unbrick your device with Platform Builder.
By any means, if **** happens do not overwrite 1.10.Oli with other bootloader.
Thanks Pof,you just answered the question which kept me thinking since Hard SPL released.Flashing this one,now by 30%.
flashed 1.01 oli, flashed 1.38.00.11 - no problem, BUT when I flashing/updating (or possibly bricking ) device, I like to know what exactly is a differences between versions, only one think I know about 1.38.00.11 is, that this version have GPS enabled. Thats all. Is any changelog, or list of changed/updated/improved features inside of roms? I know, that you just dump this rom from device, but it is really nice to know, if it is necessary. perhaps we should created one special thread with differences between versions, to better orientation (sorry if I miss this one, but I think at this time doesnt exist)... guys - thx for your work anyway
Thanks Pof I am going to upgrade.
ok a little lost on the process can I just download the 1.38 file and that will upgrade it or do i have to do something to the boot loader first? Sorry for the simple question.
yes, the question is really simple. but there is one more think you can do... read all this thread, and also this one. all necessary information is in there. and if you dont want to have 700$ paperweight, I really recommend to read all information about flashing procedures in wiki - here before you start. in any case of question or problem, do not hesitate to write some posts, but if anybody ask similar question like you, without some reading, which, yes, need a some time, then If somebody want to find any relevant and usefull information, must read about 60 % pointless posts... it is nothing personal, just for your info. forums is about people, and people keep forums alive.
you did not provide us any information about you current version of OS/ROM, BL version, for me it was easy, just extracted Hard-SPL.zip, runned ROMUpgradeUt.exe - after reset I have oli BL, then you can run HERM_RADIO_1.38.00.11_Only_SSPL.rar.... there is much much more knowledge about that, so try wiki first, it is only for you own good.
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ok a little lost on the process can I just download the 1.38 file and that will upgrade it or do i have to do something to the boot loader first? Sorry for the simple question.
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sinmae said:
....just extracted Hard-SPL.zip, runned ROMUpgradeUt.exe - after reset I have oli BL, then you can run HERM_RADIO_1.38.00.11_Only_SSPL.rar.... there is much much more knowledge about that, so try wiki first, it is only for you own good.
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Yes definatly read the wiki etc... but also do as sinmae has done and load a HardSPL first, this is especially relevant when flashing radios.
@pof are you also running a HardSPL based bootloader??
...can somene put this ROM on Rapidshare or somewhere else, cause XDA FTP is not working
Regards,
Primoz
any feedbaack with wm6 roms
has anyone tried this radio with wm6 and whats the advantage over radio 1.35. i have got wm6 running with radio 1.35 running very good with no issues and lock ups.
sinmae said:
Is any changelog, or list of changed/updated/improved features inside of roms? I know, that you just dump this rom from device, but it is really nice to know, if it is necessary.
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Unfortunately HTC keeps this information private, so there's no ChangeLog.
The radio was not dumped from a device, but extracted from 1.23.408.1 Italian Trinity ROM.
mrvanx said:
@pof are you also running a HardSPL based bootloader??
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Yes, I'm running 1.10.Oli right now.
Pc78 said:
XDA FTP is not working
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It's fixed now, try to download again. The server has been down during last hours, but it should be all fixed now.
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has anyone tried this radio with wm6 and whats the advantage over radio 1.35.
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Yes, I tried only with WM6. We don't know the difference / advantage, just that it's a newer (higher) radio version.
duttythroy said:
has anyone tried this radio with wm6 and whats the advantage over radio 1.35. i have got wm6 running with radio 1.35 running very good with no issues and lock ups.
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The download server was down now running!!!!!
Just upgraded to radio 1.38 from 1.35 and I am running xdalive first release WM6 on O2 3g. Since the upgrade I am pretty sure the phone signal is now stronger as I have tested it in areas around my home and outside that got no signal, especially near my pc. I can now make a call next to my pc with 3 bars on the signal meter! The signal does not drop so much, I will test further and report back any problems, but so far so good.
Please let me know how you get on.
Can somebody compare the battery duration between this Radio and 1.34?
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Can somebody compare the battery duration between this Radio and 1.34?
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I will let you know on that one as I had it fully charged for the radio upgrade. I will keep an eye on it and report back.
I was about to down grade my radio back to .1.27 or earlier beacause of my UTMS reception in Brisbane (AU) and also the battery life. So i will also let you all know how this goes.
Dear Community, Dear Experts, Dear Gurus ,
I am hoping for your help. Unfortuntately the Speaker in my HTC TyTn died
and I need to send back the TYTN to the service center in order to get most likely the speaker replaced ( dead ).
Here my isue:
I want to flash the original stock rom, which is:
RUU_Hermes_1.18.257.2_1.18.257.106_1.03.03.10_Qtek_GER_Ship.exe
I have running now and downgraded from WM6 to WM5:
HTC_BOOT HERM200 IPL-1.04 SPL-2.10.Olipro ->>> not OK :-(
ROM HTC German QTEK_102 1.18.257.2 05/30/06 ->>> OK
EXTROM 1.18.257.106 ->>> OK
RadioRom 1.41.00.10 ->>> not OK :-(
Protocol 32.34.7010.01H ->>> OK
OS Build 14955.2.3.0 ->>> OK
AKU 2.3 ->>> OK
The issue is now, how can I restore the original bootloader ? I can only
flash the rom with the RUUWrapper, the result of flashing the original stock
rom is then, that I am still stuck with the modified bootloader and a corrupted
radio rom. Radio Rom was "fixed" by me by flashing the latest version.
If I would try to use the original flasher I would always get an Update Error [260].
So what can I do to resotre the HTC TyTn to its original status, so that the warranty is not voided ... original stock bootloader, radio rom image and so on.
Thanks a lot and hoping for your support, since I am realy lost here.
Sbrani
grab sspl (soft spl) and use that to flash a stock bootloader only.
as far as i know you cannot downgrade the radio due to it being bootloader 0108 variant, but not having a hermes i might be wrong
You can restore the original SPL bootloader by using SSPL but you will not be able to downgrade the Radio as the original has HTC_BOOT 0106.
You have already checked these guys that they haven't released an update?
First of all, thanks a lot for replying, but still the question is, how I can get rid of the HERM200 IPL-1.04 SPL-2.10.Olipro Bootloader. I would need to downgrade once again to the original HTC bootlader 106. As long as I have the other one, I will always end up, with a non working radio rom, since this stone old radio rom is not compatible with the new "IPL-1.04 SPL-2.10" bootlader. Any further Ideas ? Anyway the sspl (soft spl) did the trick and was able to flash orignal rom, but unfortunately with the same result, still not the original bootloader and the radio rom is now again corrupted :-(.
The bootloader hindering you from downgrading to the original radio is not the IPL/SPL combo but instead the built-in bootloader of the radio itself. Read more in the Wiki.
To put back your original SPL loader, use NBHextract to extract the SPL image from the ROM update file you used to downgrade the other bits in your phone, then use NBHgen to create an update file containing only the SPL and then use SSPL for the update.
Hey great support here ! Finally I also managed to restore the original bootloader, which is HERM200 IPL-1.00 HERM200 SPL-1.04. Now I only have to get the original radio rom running. Thanks a lot, seems that I can think now of actually reaching the final goal. I learned a lot. Great community !!!
You're missing the point about the radio. Let me repeat:
You can't install the original radio ROM. You will brick the phone!
abubasim is right, you have htc_boot 0108, so you can only flash radios with htc_boot 0107 or 0108, but not 0106. Your original radio has 0106, so if you flash it you'll get a NoGSM error and a bricked phone.
about downgrading to WM5
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abubasim is right, you have htc_boot 0108, so you can only flash radios with htc_boot 0107 or 0108,
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Well Pof, abubasim, Couldn’t sbrani downgrade the radio with custom RUU to his own original Rom Radio first?? (almost the official known Radio is 1.38) then following your description. At that time he gone have WM5 Rom and same Radio as original, I just wondering if u can du like this
Don't worry guys I bricked several times now the radio rom . It's just that it is then extra work. I will keep you updated, as soon I have news, for now I can't see anymore those "upgrading" tools. I will try it again tomorrow.
you where able to unbrick because you had HardSPL, but now you have SPL-1.04 which will not allow you to flash unsigned code.
By the way, did anybody have experience with HTC or better to say HTC Serivce Providers. As far as I know I have to send it to Teleservice in Germany. Are they realy checking the installed rom ? Thanks for the info.
Ok, I made it finally, I will post exactly how I did it, maybe it helps someone who will be in the same situation.
Thanks once again, great SUPPORT !!
Sure you'd HELP me!
Hi there,
Hi Sbrani, I'm in the exactly same situation: HTC TYTN (Orange France) without speaker... and needing to go to french HTC support.
I upgraded both ROM and Radio to the latest versions following step by step the tutorial found here and on mr (???) on its website (very well done by the way).
Sbrani, Please could you help me to restore as you did, my factory defaults?
Regards
Fly
Can you give more facts ? Pls look into my first thread and put down the infos. Thx
Guideline: How to downgrade to an original rom
Ok here we go this is how I solved this issue.
First you need to understand the difference between a normal SPL
and the modified SPls, which you can get here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=296722
A standard SPL will not accept any unsigned code !
In case you bricked it already look here :
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_Unbrick
1. you need to figure out, which radio rom matches your rom you want to flash, otherwise you end up with a bricked radio rom or even totally bricked,
if you have a standard SPL.
2.Please check it here:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_Upgrades
for the roms
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_ExtractedRadioRoms
for the radio roms
3.Looking at my ROM, which I needed I flashed 1.10 - Olipro SPL - based on 1.04,
I flashed it by using SSPL.
4.I flashed then the needed the radio rom
which was Radio upgrade only using CustomRUU 4.3 V 1.38.30.10
5.I used then Custom RUU Updater flashing the needed rom,
but without the included radio rom.
Costum RUU Updater you can find here:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_CustomRUU
extracting and modifying is explained here:
http://www.mrvanx.org/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=22&Itemid=27
actually it is an how to downgrade from WM6 to WM6.
Please have a close look on how to extract the rom and how to create a
costum rom, which will fit your needs. The self made rom,
should then include the original IPL and SPL loader.
I finally used again SSPL to flash the self cooked rom.
Sorry if the guide is not very precise or not correct at all !!
Everybody is welcome to correct me and to finetune this guide.
LAST BUT NOT LEAST, please read the HERMES WIKI, it was a great help for me !!
Thank you!
You deserve a Very Very Warm thank you!
I'll try all you advised me this week-end.
Regards,
FlY
it's very good already. i think you should get it incorporated into MrVanx's guide as a downgrade for servicing section
Thanks for your guide sbrani, I have not had to downgrade yet, but it something that is in the back of my mind as I know it will be very difficult if I ever need to.
I would also second the comment that I would be very grateful to MrVanx if he wrote a general guide on how to return to factory condition , as it is much more involved than upgrading. It's one thing to flash a phone, a totally different thing to customise a ROM update in order to only flash a specified portion.
@sbrani:
What version is your radio ROM at now? 1.03.03.10 or 1.38.30.10?