We currently have 3 NK.nbf WM2003SE ROMs to play with and I've stumbled on a way to create a better version out of the 2 English ones:
2.02.t1WWE : 4.21.1088 (Build 14132)
PROS:
Stable - no reboot hangs or delays
The faster of the English versions
BT Handsfree - allows the Handsfree profile to be activated
CONS:
ClearType - not worth using in this version
BT Handsfree - early version, can disable radio randomly. Blocks activesync when activated and if Handsfree mode isn't enabled, Headset mode won't work.
BT Profile - plays hide'n'seek
Newer "Outlook integrated" MMS clients not sending/receiving correctly
No Media Player 10
2.06.00WWE : 4.21.1088 (Build 14132)
PROS:
ClearType - looks and works great
BT Headset - no handsfree option but works seamlessly with activesync
CONS:
Unstable - can lock-up in OS & suffers hangs/delays on reboot
BT Profile - plays hide'n'seek
Newer "Outlook integrated" MMS clients not sending/receiving correctly
No Media Player 10
:!: NOTE: This is only my experience of the above and you may not have experienced any/some of the above
Combining ROM's
By first flashing with the 2.02.t1WWE ROM (& 1.18.00 Radio + Extended ROM), then setting up BT and detecting all devices but before adding additional software, I ran an activesync backup. The reason I used activesync was to capture the registry and system state but not an image of the whole ROM.
I then flashed with the 2.06.00WWE ROM + 1.18.00 Radio & Extended ROM, but this time I restored from the activesync backup. Rather than what I expected (everything good about 2.06 to be blown away), activesync restore did a merge of the 2 registries and overwrote the files not in use.
The end result came as a surprise:
I now have a version 2.06.00WWE that doesn't hang/delay on reboot, runs faster, looks great with cleartype and now has BT Handsfree as an option. Handsfree works great, though still blocks activesync via BT (a reboot auto disables it) but it doesn't interfere with the radio now.
Are you sure they didn't just rename BT Handsfree in 2.02t1WWE to BT Headset in 2.06.00WWE? (same functionality, just no menu option in the later)
The reason I'm posting this, is not to produce a backup file for installation, but to give those of us playing around with the ROMS's food for thought.
I'm curious what would happen if someone installed an English version, deleted Media player 9 & it's registry as much as possible, then backed up. Then installed the Chinese version (2.20.07CHS with Media Player 10) and restored the original backup over it.
Would you end up with a combined Chinese version in English with Media Player 10?
(Before you ask why I don't try it myself - I need a break so I'm going back to work :wink: )
Man!
it seems working for me also now i have 2.02 stability with 2.06 advantages (i.e clear type).
one thing,,, how did you think about it? i mean it is always advised to avoid restoring from different ROM!
thanx man :wink:
how do you restore from activesync? after a reflash, the partnership is removed right?
can you guys post step by step? thanks
Yup this is true... just folow there steps...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=14240
I would love to try this but pardon my ignorance but correct me if i'm wrong.... isn't it when you do a hard reset or ROM/extROM upgrade you loose partnership with activesynch? I had this problem eversince that's why i use sprite backup. How do you restore from activesynch after loosing partnership?
The steps are outlined here, but you'll have to obtain the correct ROM's to suit your region, model & carrier.
Can we have both registries posted here?
Hi Sin,
Can you posted the vanilia registries of 2.02 and 2.06 ROM?
I will love to check the difference between both ROMs and make a stable ROM by adding registry changes after the upgrade. Many thanks.
Re: Can we have both registries posted here?
Sorry, I missed your request. Here's a link to one I posted today.
Sin said:
The reason I'm posting this, is not to produce a backup file for installation, but to give those of us playing around with the ROMS's food for thought.
I'm curious what would happen if someone installed an English version, deleted Media player 9 & it's registry as much as possible, then backed up. Then installed the Chinese version (2.20.07CHS with Media Player 10) and restored the original backup over it.
Would you end up with a combined Chinese version in English with Media Player 10?
(Before you ask why I don't try it myself - I need a break so I'm going back to work :wink: )
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Sin,
Have you try this process? And if you did what was the result? I am just curious. (I don't have enough knowledge to do this, that's why I asked)
Thanks!
Here is a new rom from the still unreleased Cingular 8525: HTC Hermes (HERM100) branded from U.S. Operator Cingular.
ROM Version: 1.30.502.1
ROM Date: 08/21/06
Radio: 1.11.00.00
Protocol: 32.47.7018.00H
As always, download link on the wiki upgrading page:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_Upgrades
If you have questions be sure to read the Hermes wiki first, specially the Upgrading FAQs.
Notes on this ROM:
* Cingular 8525 doesn't have front camera, you'll need to install cab files from other ExtROM to enable video calling (I used TyTN ExtROM on mine).
* Left button is mapped to push-to-talk application still unavailable on the rom, so it is unuseful. You can map it to any other APP using 3rd party software to remap hardware buttons.
Enjoy
if i upgrade to the cingular 8525 rom, will my tytn still be unlocked? or will it be locked to cingular?
It will still be unlocked. The network lock doesn't depend on the rom you're using.
Guys
Any ideas as to who/what website released this ROM?
- JoKer
What is the OS build?
gravejoker said:
Any ideas as to who/what website released this ROM?
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A person who preferes to stay anonymous sent it to me.
nickcerda said:
What is the OS build?
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OS 5.1.195 (Build 14955.2.3.0), so it's AKU 2.3 as all the other available ROMs until now.
i just installed the cingular 8525 rom! and now U CANT DO A LOCK IN ON GSM OR WCDMA MODE! (that menu been removed!)
i going back to the Imate rom!
Trying it now, thanks for the link! It also seems that the MMS limit is increased to 600K!
netboy said:
i just installed the cingular 8525 rom! and now U CANT DO A LOCK IN ON GSM OR WCDMA MODE! (that menu been removed!)
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I am on the cingular rom, and my menu exists. Go to:
Settings -> Personal -> Phone -> Band -> Select your network type. The options are Auto, GSM and WCDMA.
If you don't have it by default probably it's on the ExtROM, as I said I installed the ExtROM from TyTN, try it.
pof said:
Settings -> Personal -> Phone -> Band -> Select your network type. The options are Auto, GSM and WCDMA.
If you don't have it by default probably it's on the ExtROM, as I said I installed the ExtROM from TyTN, try it.
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the "Band" tap/menu is missing. probably it' on the ExtRom from Tytn. how do i install the Tytn ExtRom? do u mind tell me? or u rather me search the FAQ?
Any comments as to the stability of this ROM on a TyTN?
Do we know what the different files in the EXT_ROM are for?
netboy said:
the "Band" tap/menu is missing. probably it' on the ExtRom from Tytn. how do i install the Tytn ExtRom? do u mind tell me? or u rather me search the FAQ?
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1) hard reset
2) do the usual alignment stuff, copy-paste, etc...
3) soft-reset before it starts installing the cingular ExtROM (customizations), you have 3 seconds
4) Unhide your extrom (you can also use fit4cat hermes tweaker for this)
5) Extract the contents of TyTN ExtROM to a folder in your miniSD card.
6) click on the CABs files you want to install, this is what I installed on mine:
From TyTN's ExtROM (on SD):
MT_Shortcut-MMS-Hermes.CAB
MP_mHub_060630.CAB
MT_PC_Hermes_Qtek_WWE_060621.CAB
P_Generic_UI.CAB
PP_3-AP-Patch.CAB
PP_ace-certs.CAB
VT_Engine_23818_ext.CAB
From Cingular's ExtROM (unhided):
MT_Shortcut-MMS-Hermes.CAB
T_mm1lib_DLL.CAB
MMS disapeared and I had to install the CAB 3 times, i used both from TyTN and from Cingular, then setup a default account settings and sent an MMS and received another (I sent it to myself from another mobile phone) and after that it stayed and no more problems with MMS.
I also installed the TyTN green theme (.tsk) because I like how it looks
Hope that helps.
Does the Cingular ROM or EXT_ROM contain the Cyberon VoiceDialer?
(I hope not!)
Yes, it's on the ROM but it's not mapped to any hardware button.
interesting.. BAND selection tab (GSM/UMTS/AUTO) is present in the ROM if Cingular extended ROM is not installed. it is being removed during Extended ROM installation procedure. more over, none of this Cingular CAB files are responsible for removing BAND selection (GSM/UMTS/AUTO) tab.
I have skipped Extened ROM installation, verified that BAND selection (GSM/UMTS/AUTO) band selector is still present and then installed all Cingular extended ROM cab files one by one. supprisingly enough - band selector is still there. there must be some other invisible configuration file in the extended rom. gprs connection is not auto configured either.
@superduper: probably you need to soft reset for the changes made by cab files to take effect. If you want to know which cab file disables it you have to install one, soft-reset, install another one, soft-reset and so on...
never mind
here is. i have selected the line in registry that needs to be changed to:
dword:00000001
default value for this line is : dword:00000000
see below :
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Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\OEM\PhoneSetting]
"EnableErrorCause"=dword:00000001
"LongNamePrefix"="UMTS"
"Enable3GLongNamePrefix"=dword:00000001
"EnableUsimEF"=dword:00000001
"ShowNITZPage"=dword:00000000
"HiddenFDNFunction"=dword:00000000
"HiddenBCFunction"=dword:00000000
"FDNQueryPBTimeout"=dword:00060000
"ShowFDNPage"=dword:00000001
"ShowTtyPage"=dword:00000001
"ShowUMTSBandPage"=dword:00000001
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\OEM\PhoneSetting\BandType]
"ItemValue4"=dword:00000003
"ItemName4"="UMTS(2100+800)"
"ItemValue3"=dword:00000002
"ItemName3"="GSM(1900+850)+UMTS(1900+850)"
"ItemValue2"=dword:00000001
"ItemName2"="GSM(900+1800)+UMTS(2100)"
"ItemValue1"=dword:00000000
"ItemName1"="Auto"
"ItemCount"=dword:00000004
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\OEM\PhoneSetting\NetworkType]
"ItemValue3"=dword:00000002
"ItemName3"="WCDMA"
"ItemValue2"=dword:00000001
"ItemName2"="GSM"
"ItemValue1"=dword:00000000
"ItemName1"="Auto"
"ItemCount"=dword:00000003
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UPDATE: phone settings.reg file is attache to this message. one needs simply import this file into device registry. no soft reset is required.
P.S. It would be goos if fit4cat will add this feature to his hermes tweaker.
Great finding
Guys, is Cing Video now activated and available as an option?
Thanks.
Is it me or does the ExtROM Unlocker only unhide the Extended ROM on this build - leaving it still read-only / protected?
I tried with fit4cat and the Hermes MountExtROM.cab but no luck modifing contents.
Here I have a bunch of boring ROMs for your StarTrek. I call them boring because they are devoid of any personalization, customization, or 3rd party apps other than what comes with a shipping ROM. These ROMs are OS only, will not change your initial splash or radio (but it does change the operator splash). A text file ReadMe.txt in the download contains brief instructions on how to flash this ROM. Apparently the 3.06 IPL/SPL in QTEK ROMs is broken and cannot recover via MicroSD so I would recommend updating to 4.01.0001 prior to flashing any of these ROMs, although that in itself can be risky (see below for download). Enjoy, and flash at your own risk!
Details
5.2.1711 (Build 18170.0.5.1) Core OS (SYS) is ported from T-Mobile Shadow Feb. '08 update.
OEMAPPS and OEMOPERATORS are straight from CWS 4.1.502.5 ROM. It has the latest camera and apps.
OEMDrivers specific to StarTrek are the latest, from 4.1.502.5 ROM. Some common libraries are from TMO Shadow ROM.
OEM Edition for AT&T 3125 - The same old, boring, Cingular-branded ROM you're used to, only ported to WM6. My objective with the Boring Edition is a ROM that's indistinguishable from what an OEM would put on a shipping device. This is based on Cingular ROM v4.1.502.5 with many changes made throughout to work with the WM6 core, but hopefully the changes are transparent. It comes with all the bloatware and apps that came with the original Cingular ROM. If you want lots of storage and free RAM, this is NOT the ROM for you!
Adobe Reader LE 2.0 (new, from TMO Shadow, replaces original ClearVue PDF)
Office Mobile (new, replaces original ClearVue Office suite)
Windows Live/Live Messenger (new, replaces original MSN Messenger)
Microsoft Voice Command (replaces Cyberon Voice Dial)
English-only xT9 (new, from HTC S730 "Wings", dated Sep 7, 2007, replaces older T9)
Esmertek Java (new, from TMO Shadow update, replaces discontinued Tao Intent Java)
Cingular bloatware, customization, setup, and theme
Clock/carrier block of Cingular theme changed to standard WM6 style (I liked the bigger clock).
SecurityOff (required, because some apps can't install with it on)
Clean ROM WM6 - Similar to the above (same drivers), but lacking Cingular customization and bloatware. Does NOT have Microsoft Office or Adobe Reader. This will leave more storage available for 64MB devices like QTEK 8500 or iMate Smartflip. As this is an unbranded ROM, you will need to manually set up your GPRS and Proxy connections.
Windows Live/Live Messenger (new)
English-only xT9 (dated Sep 7, 2007)
Esmertec Java
Cyberon Voice Dial
SecurityOff (required, because some apps can't install with it on)
Neo Edition Clean WM6 ROM - Same as above, only added Neo theme from the T-Mobile Shadow. No other customizations.
CREDITS
Thanks to pArtizAn (Erofich), Alex[DFR], Strik3r, and Chymmylt for use of the WM6 XIP in early versions of my ROMs. Without it, my first ROM would have been delayed 2-3 weeks.
Known Bugs - Applies to all versions.
Analog Clock 2 and Analog Clock 3 on external display don't look right. NOT a WM6 bug because the original Cingular WM5 has the same problem!
Possible xT9 can't backspace on some websites bug.
Roll your own! Here are the SYS, OEM, and ROM folders for the Clean Edition ROM. Add this to your favorite kitchen. RUU included.
For experienced ROM builders only!
Download Clean Edition Kitchen files
Other Updates
These are from the latest Cingular ROM, newest for STARTREK that I'm aware of. I have tested these and they worked fine on my phone but I am not responsible if you take the risk and they damage your phone! Flash at your own risk!
Download IPL/SPL 4.01.0001 CAUTION: Flashing IPL and SPL could kill your phone... permanently!
Download Radio 4.1.13.34_02.79.30
Download Radio 4.1.13.46_02.97.90
Prerequisites
Your device must be CID unlocked! See this thread.
Please report any bugs with a detailed explanation of how to reproduce them.
Change Log
Mar 6, 2008 - OEM version, single press of RECORD button activates Voice Command. Should support BT activation now. All clean versions now use the same animated HTC splash. Shows HTC logo on outside screen instead of blank (thanks Erofich). I figured how to port XIPs so all ROMs now use my own XIPs ported from scratch. Added Neo and WM6.1 editions.
Feb 21, 2008 - Fixed Vibrate in Profiles bug, possibly fixed Microsoft Live can't connect bug, updated some files (no longer have to press OK after cold boot setup), newer OS build (18170.0.5.1), newer Esmertec Java, Sim Manager, changed Cyberon Voice Dial to MS Voice Command on Boring version.
Feb 18, 2008 - Changed Tao Intent Java to Esmertec Java, T9 to xT9 on all versions. Added download links to latest radio and IPL/SPL.
Feb 16, 2008 - Added kitchen files for Clean Edition.
Feb 15, 2008 - Added Clean Edition. Changes to Boring Edition: T9 problem fixed, Start menu now allows scrolling (no need to press More), SecurityOff to fix programs can't install problem.
Feb 13, 2008 - Original Release of Boring ROM.
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Extras
Clean ROM a little too clean? Here are some add-ons in CAB form.
Adobe Reader LE 2.0 Build 288531 (from T-Mobile Shadow)
Neo Black & Blue Theme - Only works on ROMs with Neo integrated. Not just a simple color change, I tried to copy the mockup of T-Mobile Black. It looks almost identical to the mockup on my PC, but unfortunately the conversion from 16.7m to 65k colors results in some false contouring.
thanks man!!
does gprs work in this one?
GnatGoSplat said:
Boring ROM WM6 Cingular (AT&T) - It's the same old, boring, Cingular-branded ROM you're used to, only ported to WM6. My objective with the Boring ROMs is to make a ROM that's indistinguishable from what an OEM would put on a shipping device. This is based on Cingular ROM v4.1.502.5 with many changes made throughout to work with the WM6 core, but hopefully the changes are transparent. It comes with all the bloatware and apps that came with the original Cingular ROM. If you want lots of storage and free RAM, this is NOT the ROM for you!
XIP is thanks to Erofich's WM6.
5.2.1711 (Build 18165.0.5.0) Core OS (SYS) is ported from T-Mobile Shadow.
OEMAPPS and OEMOPERATORS are straight from CWS 4.1.502.5 ROM. It has the latest camera and apps.
OEMDrivers specific to StarTrek are the latest, from 4.1.502.5 ROM. Some common libraries are from TMO Shadow ROM.
Changes
Behind-the-scenes changes were numerous, but visible changes are minimal (although I did make a few):
Office Mobile replaces ClearVue apps. Most devices that used ClearVue in WM5 were changed to Office Mobile in WM6 so monkey see, monkey do.
Adobe Reader LE 2.0 from TMO Shadow replaces ClearVue PDF.
Clock/carrier block of Cingular theme changed to standard WM6 style (I liked the bigger clock).
Known Bugs
Analog Clock 2 and Analog Clock 3 on external display don't look right. NOT a WM6 bug because the original Cingular WM5 has the same problem!
OS only, will not change your initial splash or radio (but it does change the operator splash).
Download
Please report any bugs with a detailed explanation of how to reproduce them.
If there is much interest, I can make a cleaner, unbranded version of this ROM or a vanilla kitchen.
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Will this work on i-mate SmarkFlip (out of box device without any hacks)
Yes, GPRS works, but I use T-Mobile so I had to add a connection to T-Mobile GPRS. It should work with Cingular/AT&T as-is.
It should work on a SmartFlip, but I'm not sure if you need to CID unlock first.
Downloading and installed...
Attempt 1: Read everything within the Word file. Installed right from the RomUpdate program in the root directory of your
WM6 update. Didn't work, so I will attempt what you have in the Readme text file in my next attempt....
Attempt 2: The Update Utility program says version 3.12.3.1 on the title while the pictures you have in the word file says
version 2.99. Also, when I go through to update ROM, it verifies my current Image version as 4.1.502.5,
I click Update and the next screen it indicates that it will be updating from my current version to the
new version of 1.00.000.0. Then, a minute or so later, I get the following message:
ERROR [270] : UPDATE ERROR Image file is corruprted. Please check your Update Utility.
Do you know how I could resolve this matter because you do not list error 270
within your troubleshooting material? Your UpDate program is not even the same version!
Vista Home, Cingular 3125 unlocked with current released Rom version. So, what am I missing here?
Sorry, I shouldn't have included the Word doc, it's the standard doc that came with the RUU and happened to be in the folder at the time.
Are you using SoftSPL? You MUST use the SoftSPL, it won't work to just run the RUU. The doc I wrote is ReadMeWM6.txt.
You also need to CID unlock according to the sticky thread.
kumar00455 said:
Will this work on i-mate SmarkFlip (out of box device without any hacks)
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@kumar00455,
GnatGoSplat noted that this should work on any StarTrek, but there is something you should be aware of. In the past, it seems like a lot of people that have tried a Cingular ROM on a StarTrek that is not a 3125 model have not liked it, because they ended up with too little storage memory. This is because Cingular has loaded a ton of large crapware programs on their ROMs. Now, that isn't a big problem for the 3125, because it is actually different hardware from all other StarTreks - it has double the storage memory (128MB) all the other StarTreks (which have 64MB). Since GnatGoSplat has tried to make this just like a Cingular ROM, with all the added programs, you may find you have the same problem. However, I do think there is a thread here somewhere that talks about how to clean all the crapware off of a Cingular 3125 ROM and reclaim some storage memory.
@GnatGoSplat,
Thanks for putting this together - I think I will try it soon on my 3125! I would be very interested in a cleaned-up version and a kitchen as well. And of course, many thanks to Erofich and everyone else who worked on getting WM6 on the StarTrek. I thought we would never see this day!
Oh yeah, I forgot the 3125's have double the storage memory!
I'll make a slimmer, cleaner ROM as soon as enough people have tried this one to confirm it doesn't have any significant problems.
What apps are essential to keep in a cleaner ROM and which can go? What are typical apps that come on a Smartflip or 8500?
device PIN lock working?
Can anyone who has tried this ROM tell me if the security PIN lock works correctly without any problems? I sync my 3125 with my corporate Exchange server, and our IT people enforce a device PIN lock requirement through the Exchange server. So I have to enter a 6 digit PIN if the phone has been idle over an hour. Anyway, I'm interested in flashing this ROM, but if there is any problem with that functionality in this ROM, it would be a deal-killer for me... Thanx...
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Oh yeah, I forgot the 3125's have double the storage memory!
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I do like your approach here, though. Start with something as much like the carrier ROM as possible until you know that it's pretty stable, then put it on a nice diet to make it lean and mean. Makes good sense to me...
GnatGoSplat:
i am in china. so i download this file so slow,can you send to me ?my e-mail:[email protected]
SoftSPL
Ok I'm where do i put the SoftSPL file and how do i use it. i tried putting it in Windows directory nothing. please help i really want to get WM6 on my 3125
guyver76 said:
Ok I'm where do i put the SoftSPL file and how do i use it. i tried putting it in Windows directory nothing. please help i really want to get WM6 on my 3125
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Put it in the root of your device /not/ Windows. Start softspl.lnk as it says in the manual
I tried to use the program you directed the user to transfer. Everytime I clicked on it, I would get an error which stated that the link's program could not be found.
Don't get me wrong over here, I read the directions a few times and did everything you instructed. I am pretty good with directions and I am not one for doing things my own way. If I could help in anyway, just say something. I have alot of times on my hands and I am educated in matters, like, programming on my home desktop.
I made several attempts, I still get the same error, time and time again.
Are you trying to run the correct SPL? The one that looks like a square with a blue bar on top is the correct one. The one that looks like a piece of paper with the corner folded and a Microsoft icon in the center is NOT the right one.
Also, copy ONLY the files and NOT the whole folder. All these files need to be on ROOT folder of your device. If you're using ActiveSync, when you open your device icon, it defaults to My Documents so you have to go to My Device.
Okay, there we go. I copied the entire folder. Sorry. :O(
I'll make a new attempt in just a few.
UPDATE: I tried it, and now instead of an error, it just doesn't do anything. Sorry.
GnatGoSplat -
Thanks man, this ROM has been perfect so far. Just like my previous cingular rom with WM5. You did a superb job. This is just what I was looking for. Thanks Again!
I am waiting for the slimmer ROM since my device is teh European QTEK 8500. I am waiting impatiently
Churchill said:
I am waiting for the slimmer ROM since my device is teh European QTEK 8500. I am waiting impatiently
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Its worth the wait!!
Thanks
Thanks for the reply i got it working now