Beloved Hermes users,
I've taken the liberty of uploading all the current ROMs onto RapidShare for our downloading pleasure. I've also updated the wiki with links to all the new locations so that when the files are removed from the XDA hosted FTP we'll still have a place to get a hold of the files. I believe this will be the easiest, quickest method as opposed to using Torrents. That way we don't need any extra software to download the files and no seeders will be needed, either. If the links to these files will ever be required to be removed from the wiki along with the FTP files, I still have the full list of download locations so we can move the info onto any page we would need in the future.
Thanks
prsnow said:
Beloved Hermes users,
I've taken the liberty of uploading all the current ROMs onto RapidShare for our downloading pleasure. I've also updated the wiki with links to all the new locations so that when the files are removed from the XDA hosted FTP we'll still have a place to get a hold of the files. I believe this will be the easiest, quickest method as opposed to using Torrents. That way we don't need any extra software to download the files and no seeders will be needed, either. If the links to these files will ever be required to be removed from the wiki along with the FTP files, I still have the full list of download locations so we can move the info onto any page we would need in the future.
Thanks
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Excellent, thanks!
prsnow said:
Beloved Hermes users,
I've taken the liberty of uploading all the current ROMs onto RapidShare for our downloading pleasure. I've also updated the wiki with links to all the new locations so that when the files are removed from the XDA hosted FTP we'll still have a place to get a hold of the files. I believe this will be the easiest, quickest method as opposed to using Torrents. That way we don't need any extra software to download the files and no seeders will be needed, either. If the links to these files will ever be required to be removed from the wiki along with the FTP files, I still have the full list of download locations so we can move the info onto any page we would need in the future.
Thanks
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We worship you!
Phil
Question: RapidShare doesn't delete a file after a certain period of inactivity? Some old files might be useful in the future, for example a certain BL1.04 ROM that match my CID...
i think if you have a full account in rapidshare, it'd be fine.
There's also an effort underway to move the library to FTP sites located outside the infleuence of m$ legal. They have no power in some areas of the world. This appears to be the ultimate solution to this issue. ITMT, rapidshare is a very good interim solution too IMO. Thanks!
If the petition is anything to go by, it would appear that m$ has merely generated (a whole lot of) bad publicity with their edict. I'm still hoping we can work with them in a positive manner because I believe that the XDA developers truly boost sales of their devices far beyond the additional costs of the occasional owner asking for operator support on cooked roms.
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There's also an effort underway to move the library to FTP sites located outside the infleuence of m$ legal. They have no power in some areas of the world. This appears to be the ultimate solution to this issue. ITMT, rapidshare is a very good interim solution too IMO. Thanks!
If the petition is anything to go by, it would appear that m$ has merely generated (a whole lot of) bad publicity with their edict. I'm still hoping we can work with them in a positive manner because I believe that the XDA developers truly boost sales of their devices far beyond the additional costs of the occasional owner asking for operator support on cooked roms.
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I completely agree!
You know, Sweden is the pirates haven Move the whole site to Sweden!
maybe that's where the mirror ftp sites are
Sleuth255 said:
There's also an effort underway to move the library to FTP sites located outside the infleuence of m$ legal. They have no power in some areas of the world. This appears to be the ultimate solution to this issue. ITMT, rapidshare is a very good interim solution too IMO. Thanks!
If the petition is anything to go by, it would appear that m$ has merely generated (a whole lot of) bad publicity with their edict. I'm still hoping we can work with them in a positive manner because I believe that the XDA developers truly boost sales of their devices far beyond the additional costs of the occasional owner asking for operator support on cooked roms.
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Support here at XDA-Devlopers helps influence my purchasing a HTC device, if anything happens to this site I would rethink my next purchases to not include M$ OS
This site is priceless for the amount of support it provides.
Agreement...........................TOTALLY!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!
Sleuth255,
IMO, if M$ was so concerned, they should "MABYE" partner with the community to "interchange" intellectual property (some of you great brains on the sight) & maybe the end result will be a much better product when released & the need for update after update........... will be slowed. On the developmental side, this forum gives the and "EXCELLENT" beta testing ground to bring the best product available to market...........
Wouldn't that "BOOST" their bottom line???????
MY TWO CENTS,
vpu2....OUT!!!!
Sleuth255 said:
There's also an effort underway to move the library to FTP sites located outside the infleuence of m$ legal. They have no power in some areas of the world. This appears to be the ultimate solution to this issue. ITMT, rapidshare is a very good interim solution too IMO. Thanks!
If the petition is anything to go by, it would appear that m$ has merely generated (a whole lot of) bad publicity with their edict. I'm still hoping we can work with them in a positive manner because I believe that the XDA developers truly boost sales of their devices far beyond the additional costs of the occasional owner asking for operator support on cooked roms.
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Totally Agree. The reason that I have stayed through the cycles of these devices from Blueangel on is this site. I mean I have other phones that just SIT on my desk drawer nad have been for a loooooooooong time. My HTC devices with WM software, I use and resue them and I keep purchasing the new and better devices.
Bottomline: I use and buy more of the HTC devices with MS software because of this site. I mean I have 3 versions of Wizard, 2 of HERMES for crying out loud. I think the users of this site ARE users like me that tweak and use the software/hardware to the best of their abilities AND share that info.
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Beloved Hermes users,
I've taken the liberty of uploading all the current ROMs onto RapidShare for our downloading pleasure. I've also updated the wiki with links to all the new locations so that when the files are removed from the XDA hosted FTP we'll still have a place to get a hold of the files. I believe this will be the easiest, quickest method as opposed to using Torrents. That way we don't need any extra software to download the files and no seeders will be needed, either. If the links to these files will ever be required to be removed from the wiki along with the FTP files, I still have the full list of download locations so we can move the info onto any page we would need in the future.
Thanks
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Can you also upload the new RUU Radio's from the bottom of the Radio ROM Wiki and there is one more Cooked ROM on the Shipped ROM page (Cingular 2.06/Radio 1.27) I am hosting those but running out of bandwidth. I have to take those down soon.
wpbear said:
Can you also upload the new RUU Radio's from the bottom of the Radio ROM Wiki and there is one more Cooked ROM on the Shipped ROM page (Cingular 2.06/Radio 1.27) I am hosting those but running out of bandwidth. I have to take those down soon.
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Sure, I'll do that right now.
cyberdrakula said:
Totally Agree. The reason that I have stayed through the cycles of these devices from Blueangel on is this site. I mean I have other phones that just SIT on my desk drawer nad have been for a loooooooooong time. My HTC devices with WM software, I use and resue them and I keep purchasing the new and better devices.
Bottomline: I use and buy more of the HTC devices with MS software because of this site. I mean I have 3 versions of Wizard, 2 of HERMES for crying out loud. I think the users of this site ARE users like me that tweak and use the software/hardware to the best of their abilities AND share that info.
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If you are interested in selling one of those Hermes for a decent price PM me!
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Sure, I'll do that right now.
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Ok when I see it on the Wiki, I will take the old links offline. Thanks
i will also help in efforts as i have a few dedicated servers around the world. i almost have the entire ftp mirrored
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i will also help in efforts as i have a few dedicated servers around the world. i almost have the entire ftp mirrored
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Awesome! Thanks for your help! Looks like this "no more ROMs" issue just might not be an issue after all...
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Sure, I'll do that right now.
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Can you update the Wiki for extracted Radio ROM NBH files at the bottom the page for Rapidshare hosting.
Thanks for uploading the Shipped ROMs, I see the update on the Wiki and I removed the ones I hosted. I only get 100GB a month bandwidth sorry, fortunatley for me the site just downgraded all new memebers to only 50GB month, I was grandfathered. Still good site, uploadingit.com
ok well i have the entire ftp site mirrored. lol all 13 gigs of it. all roms and programs that were on there along with the most concurrent uploads. i will work on uploading them onto a server say across the pond so that we can all have what we wanted back. not to say that rapidshare isnt a good idea it is just too time consuming espically for people that dont pay to use it and have to wait to download. Will update the Wiki accordingly
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Have I missed a memo?
Why is it that the only base ROM's that I can find for the Raphael are 19965 builds?
Seem to be plenty of newer ROM's knocking around as cooked versions, but as the chefs insist on protecting them all the time, they're as good as useless for a part-timer like myself who likes to cook his own personal ROM's.
I never had this problem with any previous devices, so what's gone wrong? Have I upset someone?!
I totally agree...
Want to get my hands on build 2755.0.1.4 and turn it into dutch and tweak the hell out of it!
But first we need a source-rom...
Seconded.
yep a bit strange
all 20755 OS version are ported ones, for now no raphael native 20755 version out...
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all 20755 OS version are ported ones, for now no raphael native 20755 version out...
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Is the procedure still the same like this?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=389772
or alternatively I can unpack any 20755 ROM and copy the MSXIPKernel and MSXIPKernelLTK (also the SYS contents) to my base ROM and tweak it to my hearts content?
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Is the procedure still the same like this?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=389772
or alternatively I can unpack any 20755 ROM and copy the MSXIPKernel and MSXIPKernelLTK (also the SYS contents) to my base ROM and tweak it to my hearts content?
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I've also started experimenting with porting. But can we just use any wm6.1 rom, as long as we keep the device oemkernelXP?
If I replace all 0409 files with 0413 in OEM en SYS will I have a flawless dutch rom? Or do I have to change links, rgu or dsm-files also? That's new for me...
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all 20755 OS version are ported ones, for now no raphael native 20755 version out...
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Fair enough, I kind of guessed that 20755 was ported, 'cause it seems to be available for all devices.
I'm very surprised that after two months, there's still no native build newer than the original 19965. What are HTC up to!?
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Fair enough, I kind of guessed that 20755 was ported, 'cause it seems to be available for all devices.
I'm very surprised that after two months, there's still no native build newer than the original 19965. What are HTC up to!?
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19971 is the latest officially released build, check the wiki for the shipped ROMs we have available.
For 2 days I'm trying to find a 20755 based rom to port sys and xip from, but all the ones I find are protected...
Anybody found one? please link me to it..
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19971 is the latest officially released build, check the wiki for the shipped ROMs we have available.
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Cheers, I forgot about that one. Saw it in the Wiki a while back, and I flashed it briefly, but I've always struggled to customise Cingular ROM's in the past because of the amount of time it takes to get rid of every last little bit of their "tweaking". So I ignored it - partly because I assumed the slightly increased build number was only to do with the Cingular customisations.
I'll just have to wait until something new comes along from HTC.
I used to love the convenience of picking up an "almost perfect" cooked ROM to tweak for my own use, but it seems that chefs don't want us to do that these days. Thats their choice I suppose - BUT (and I'll get crucified for this!) it smacks of double standards when the "real" hard work was pinched from Microsoft/HTC in the first place.
I'm not trying to start an argument by the way! I just really wish that I could actually benefit from the various chefs' hard work, rather than having to do everything from scratch because of the restrictions they impose...
Only one chef that I know of (may have been kyphur?) still releases unprotected ROM's - maybe I just need to buy him a Touch Pro!?!
Here is what a collaegue chef has said:
"I'm not a big fan of people out there that protect "their" rom, which I think goes against the principle of forums and communities. Therefore I'm not protecting it against unpacking so that anyone can learn and share their knowledge. Of course, if you appreciate my work and want to buy me a drink, donation is welcome"
Thanks Spocky!!!
That's what it is all about indeed! But alot of cooks' egos are getting to big. Do not get me wrong, I really appreciate their efforts but by protecting rom's this way you don't give beginning cooks like myself a chance to learn it... And I think XDA is a place where we should learn from each other!
merten3000 said:
Here is what a collaegue chef has said:
"I'm not a big fan of people out there that protect "their" rom, which I think goes against the principle of forums and communities. Therefore I'm not protecting it against unpacking so that anyone can learn and share their knowledge. Of course, if you appreciate my work and want to buy me a drink, donation is welcome"
Thanks Spocky!!!
That's what it is all about indeed! But alot of cooks' egos are getting to big. Do not get me wrong, I really appreciate their efforts but by protecting rom's this way you don't give beginning cooks like myself a chance to learn it... And I think XDA is a place where we should learn from each other!
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What you will find is that in the process of tweaking the ROMs the dsm and rgu files are removed as they represent around 200 files which sit in \Windows doing nothing. The more files in \Windows the more sluggish access to it is. Just happens that a side effect of this technique is that the dsm and rgu files are not present to allow a reconstruction of the ROM back into package form. Theres nothing wrong with ASKING for help when you require it about cooking etc...
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What you will find is that in the process of tweaking the ROMs the dsm and rgu files are removed as they represent around 200 files which sit in \Windows doing nothing. The more files in \Windows the more sluggish access to it is. Just happens that a side effect of this technique is that the dsm and rgu files are not present to allow a reconstruction of the ROM back into package form. Theres nothing wrong with ASKING for help when you require it about cooking etc...
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Thank you very much for clarifying this issue! I was really getting annoyed by being under the impression that it was done on purpose.
Two facts/questions remain:
1) While dumping a rom (will not mention it's chef) my kitchen command line gave the message: "cook your own ROM!". So that is defenitly done on purpose... I regret that...
2) But with the pro's new way of cooking how can I as amateur cook get my hands on for example a 20755.1.4.0 build (XIP/SYS)??
Anyway again thanks for your explanation!
There are no any official ROMs for any device with build higher than 19971.
All these 20xxx ROMs can be simple fake - old builds with patched version number.
There is no any serious evidence that all these 20xxx builds are real. Only "trustful" words from some "elite" cookers
So, you may trust or not trust. I'm personally, don't trust any build if there is no any official (at least official beta) ROMs with such build. There are so many 100% fake builds are floating around.
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Thank you very much for clarifying this issue! I was really getting annoyed by being under the impression that it was done on purpose.
Two facts/questions remain:
1) While dumping a rom (will not mention it's chef) my kitchen command line gave the message: "cook your own ROM!". So that is defenitly done on purpose... I regret that...
2) But with the pro's new way of cooking how can I as amateur cook get my hands on for example a 20755.1.4.0 build (XIP/SYS)??
Anyway again thanks for your explanation!
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1) the tool used to compress the dsms into one single package (thus MANY rgu and dsm file compressed into a single dsm file) generates this string, by default it is "BETA go cook your own ROM" or something to that effect but a simple hex editor can change it to something nicer such as "dsms compressed, sorry".
2) These builds (regardless of what people will claim) are genuine and the tool to edit the version numbers (which are encrypted afaik) is VERY rare, too much hassle than its worth to edit ALL the version numbers it would take AGES. They may not have been released on the devices officially but none-the-less they are out there and they are genuine WM6.1 builds. Each to thier own, but the newer builds DO have some serious improvments over the stock releases on the raphael.
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Thank you very much for clarifying this issue! I was really getting annoyed by being under the impression that it was done on purpose.
Two facts/questions remain:
1) While dumping a rom (will not mention it's chef) my kitchen command line gave the message: "cook your own ROM!". So that is defenitly done on purpose... I regret that...
2) But with the pro's new way of cooking how can I as amateur cook get my hands on for example a 20755.1.4.0 build (XIP/SYS)??
Anyway again thanks for your explanation!
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I had asked your second question myself for a while and then I discover that many websites (in chinese though) such as xbeta.cn or 5dpda, they have the latest builds (many maybe fake) floating around. You can get one of them there. Or you can go to the Nike sub-forum, I find they have a nice storage of the most recent builds (such as 20748 to 20755), which are ported to NIke, you can re-port them using the same technique. My advice is to do a quick search of the whole forum, not just your device's, every one a while to check the newest build. Hope this help.
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There are no any official ROMs for any device with build higher than 19971.
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not true. there are genuine samsung i900/i908 ROMs containing 20270.1.3.1 and 20721.1.4.0 (and others). however I have not seen any genuine ROM containing 20748+.
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The more files in \Windows the more sluggish access to it is.
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no offense sir, but i have never bought into this one.
it has been shown that using filemanager to scroll in the \windows folder is more sluggish with more files. many people have begun using this excuse as a reason for removing dsm and rgu files. however, i have seen no evidence to say that the device is more sluggish in general when more files exist in \windows. (and i have tested myself)
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alot of cooks' egos are getting to big....by protecting rom's this way you don't give beginning cooks like myself a chance to learn it.
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i mean no offense here either, but this statement is unfair. chefs can do whatever they please, and users have no right to be upset about their decisions.
(going way off on a tangent here...)
i agree that this community is based on sharing and intentionally making the process harder for another person is counterproductive. however, expecting every experienced chef to cater to every end user's desire to learn the process is the opposite extreme. taking up experienced chef's time to do nothing but train inexperienced chefs would also be counterproductive. in example, i generally do not answer questions on here after the answer has already been made readily available. if you have a legitimate question that you made an honest effort to answer on your own and were unable to, i would be glad to help, and so would most chefs.
i didnt learn how to customize a ROM by dumping other people's custom ROMs. i spent a year searching and reading forums to no end. the information i searched for and read hasnt gone anywhere, and its not my responsibility to nicely organize and summarize it for the next guy. you cant call out chefs because they arent making it easier for you than it was for them.
that said, i don't protect my ROMs.
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no offense sir, but i have never bought into this one.
it has been shown that using filemanager to scroll in the \windows folder is more sluggish with more files. many people have begun using this excuse as a reason for removing dsm and rgu files. however, i have seen no evidence to say that the device is more sluggish in general when more files exist in \windows. (and i have tested myself)
i mean no offense here either, but this statement is unfair. chefs can do whatever they please, and users have no right to be upset about their decisions. i didnt learn how to customize a ROM by dumping other people's custom ROMs. i spent a year searching and reading forums to no end. the information i searched for and read hasnt gone anywhere, and its not my responsibility to nicely organize and summarize it for the next guy. you cant call out chefs because they arent making it easier for you than it was for them.
that said, i don't protect my ROMs.
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1) which program do they use to compress the dsm's? I want to see if it makes a change...
2) I must agree to you about that they can do what they want, but for the part about making it easier I disagree. If it takes me a long time to figure somthing out I will share that knowledge on fora like this just to save others from putting the same effort into it as I did myself. (dutch expression: don't invent the wheel twice...) That's what the idea is isn't it? In my opinion it's selfish to think: I had too work hard so they will also have to do that (we are not 5 year olds are we?). And of course there will always be people who will 'steal a rom' and act as if they made it themselves, but that will be only a few. The majority would be pleased that they can 'finetune' a great chef's rom to their own needs!
I also searched for a year and read thousands of threads. I also started with shipped ROMS. But now I'm getting the hang of it a little and then it's dissapointing that you are not allowed to for example to port a newer xip/sys, to build your OWN cooked rom, because they do not want to share (not all like MrVanx mentionned). But it is just for argument's sake because I found a source for the 20755.1.4.0 XIP and SYS already. And if I can make somebody happy with those, I will be glad to share...
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1) which program do they use to compress the dsm's? I want to see if it makes a change...
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all_packages_to_one.exe
Included in Raphael Kitchen
Cheers
MOD EDIT: JUST TO CLARIFY. WHILE THIS IS A GREAT IDEA AND WORTHY OF BEING TEMPORARILY STUCK, THIS ISN'T AN OFFICIALLY SANCTIONED XDA SITE AND SHOULD BE USED AT YOUR OWN RISK.
Thats right!
Im offering free hosting to anyone who is creating ROMS, themes, etc
All you have to do is send me an message telling me your interest and i will set up a sub domain and ftp access
my server has unlimited space and bandwidth
Now that is a really generous offer.
Nice one
you are the best !!
i'm in the process of making a new ROM, and will contact you soon
thanks a lot..
What a nice chap
Is that server located in the USA? I'm guessing by your location...
I have a server in the UK that can also be used if desired. It's only 4GB in storage, but I doubt custom ROM's would take up that much space.
Not meaning to take over your thread however, sorry!
The server is in Toronto, the speed may not be the best for all my european friends here but i doubt it's going to be horrible.
The fact i got unlimited space and bw will give them the opportunity to even make a webpage if they want, forums for bugs and stuff.. the're own little portal if they want.
Heh nice! A couple of counter-strike:source servers whilst you at it? Joking.... or am i? no seriously just kidding.
thats hilarious
people still play that game? meh im a console guy anyways!
bump for an awsome offer
Remember, you can use this to host your own domain (if you have one) create your own website, SQL, SSL, everything you need!
Take advantage of this!
Wow thats amazing offer dude
(dont make roms, but just thought deffonatly worth a thankyou not just from the makers, but from the people who will be downloading from it too!)
Gotten a few more, keep them coming!
haha, thanks again btw, been uploading shiz to it already. I am QUITE tempted to host a proxy....with http uploading...
i might, take a look at the site in my sig.. its for themes, and il make new themes once 2.1 sense is released
but yea i could use a host that lets me use my own domain!
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i might, take a look at the site in my sig.. its for themes, and il make new themes once 2.1 sense is released
but yea i could use a host that lets me use my own domain!
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just let me know with a pm
bumping for all these new ROMs out there that might need a home
This is awesome work! I am sure ROM builders and Theme designers would love this offer. I can't wait to see VillainROM taking advantage of your offer.
kriEv,
Sent a PM regarding this offer. A very good one, and I'm sure more ROMs will be glad to take you up, especially if it means no more waiting on hosting sites and faffing around...
Cheers,
pulser
EDIT, and BTW, for the poster above me, I will be likely looking to host some mods for villainROM such as (hopefully) JIT for a stock build etc. and maybe some themes requested by users. The end idea to make a 'mini-kitchen' to store the mini update.zips, then folks can come along and help themselves to some ingredients for their ROM.
At some point, if anyone with scripting experience wanted to come onboard, we could look at making a kitchen, although I guess that would put significant load on the server, which would not really be fair on kriEv... So maybe best to just stick to a DIY kitchen unless anyone has any ideas for the 'drive-through'
Temporarily stuck to get the word out. Thanks for being so generous kriEv!
Vexxhost by any chance?
Hi all, i am also providimg free image hosting for your screenshot for maximum 3 year You may use it at http://www.apadmedia.com/photosharing
Why free? I just want the extra space to be fully utilize.
Thanks
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Just wondering what peoples thoughts were on putting together a collection of torrents for the ROM's and/or at least SBF's. Maybe some bundle's of frequently downloaded essentials too? I could see the developers/themers wanting to see stats and the like, so maybe I could incorporate bit.ly in some way. Anyway I'm willing to put some time into it if anyone wants more options for getting the files in the forum.
I also see a lot of stickies and just thought it would be nice to have one "Here's the files you need" post with links to the stickies explaining the actual process of using those files.
Basically does anyone like Torrents?
It almost sounds like you're trying to re-invent the wheel. Most of the files that people want are readily available here on the forum, the market, and hosted elsewhere and linked to on the forums.
You can view these right on your mobile device and install them directly. Why would you want to have to download and install a bit torrent client on your PC if you did not have to?
Just seems like extra work with no real efficient gain.
Yea pretty much, but I have never encountered so many links and limited bandwidth sites as on all the different android forums. Sometimes I like to just hit a link and be downloading instead of wait 30 seconds fill in anti-spam then finally wait a half hour to finish a 300 mb file.
I mean if everyones fine with that no harm no foul, just wondering if anyone else enjoyed the benefits of Bittorrent. The old links would still exist and I would probably include them next to the torrent link. If we weren't into options we wouldn't get so excited about new ROMs.
Also there's a lot of files you can't download/install directly to your phone such as sbf's, themeing apps/scripts, rooting tools, etc...
Edit: and I do understand not everyone wants to download a bittorrent app but some people already have one and almost all linux distro's come with a client, plus its a very useful and efficient way of obtaining files/folders
Id be down to help seed. I have a ten meg line and an old desktop dedicated for seeding and downloading since it's not good for much else.
Just hit me up with a link when you get the torrent together.
Sent from my stripped and rooted X2.
Hey guys just wanted to let all the devs know that www.androidfilehost.com is currently looking for more devs and devices to host with us. We just spent over 4000$ on a new site the will be launching at the end of the month but our current site is up and running. We offer free membership for all devs. Also will be hosting other files as well. Send me or xRepinsSporx a PM for more info or head to the site and start uploading now! Currently hosting for many many devs including Myn, Virus and Team Nocturnal. But need more devs!!!! Thanks
Right now I currently have 2 "active" servers for my site. Over 3TB of storage and both are on dedicated 1gbit ports. The servers have a combined total of 200TB of bandwidth!! The more devs the more servers and storage I can offer. Im hoping to get a 100TB server in Germany/Netherlands but its not cheap. Hopefully with everyones help Ill be able to get the server and host for those Developers over seas.
Thanks
xRepinsSporx
stevventimm said:
Hey guys just wanted to let all the devs know that is currently looking for more devs and devices to host with us. We just spent over 4000$ on a new site the will be launching at the end of the month but our current site is up and running. We offer free membership for all devs. Also will be hosting other files as well. Send me or xRepinsSporx a PM for more info or head to the site and start uploading now! Currently hosting for many many devs including Myn, Virus and Team Nocturnal. But need more devs!!!! Thanks
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Other files? I think it's better to host only android-related stuff, otherwise there is a risk for you to get to jail since US government is acting like a bunch of idiots when it comes to piracy.
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Other files? I think it's better to host only android-related stuff, otherwise there is a risk for you to get to jail since US government is acting like a bunch of idiots when it comes to piracy.
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Agreed. "Other Files" meant not just roms. But Mods, apps, tweaks.... Things like this.
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Other files? I think it's better to host only android-related stuff, otherwise there is a risk for you to get to jail since US government is acting like a bunch of idiots when it comes to piracy.
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We only host files that are open-source and legal. Other files as in kernels, themes,mods,etc lol thanks steve for beating me to it
Also the servers are setup for automatic building of Roms that use SVN/Google Code.
Want to upload Stock Nandroid on www.androidfilehost.com
How to upload stocknandroid.zip file on androidfilehost.com i mean where is upload option.
I have stock nandroid for 1.56.720.6. HTC__038 Asia carrier. want to upload on the same.
Thanks
sanjeev835 said:
How to upload stocknandroid.zip file on androidfilehost.com i mean where is upload option.
I have stock nandroid for 1.56.720.6. HTC__038 Asia carrier. want to upload on the same.
Thanks
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Please register on the site and click request developer access
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Introducing Bitdroid! The dedicated torrent tracker for Android ROMs!
After a couple of weeks of trial-and-error, I have finally got a torrent tracker site setup and running for Android ROM developers; a place for them to create and track a torrent for their ROMs.
Why use a torrent tracker like Bitdroid.org versus regular download links? Easy: better flow of download traffic, which equates to faster downloads!
Peer-2-Peer, or P2P, (torrents in this case) are better for high-flow traffic compared to normal HTTP (sites like Mediafire) or FTP. In HTTP or FTP, users can only download, and it's only from a single server. The more people downloading a file from a single server, the slower the download for everybody on that server requesting the same file. This is not the case for P2P connections. Every user that's downloading, downloads from another user. All of the users download are also uploading to other users, so the traffic is not coming from a single source. It is coming from many sources, alleviating slow downloads, enabling higher traffic. P2P is a much superior way to distribute large files (such as Android ROMs).
So where did this idea come from? After the release of several popular ROMs, I saw people complaining about slow download speeds, and having to upload to several different download mirrors for others to download at a fast pace again, until those became "clogged" for a while as well. P2P, as previously mentioned, would have alleviated this and reduced (or even eliminated) the need for several HTTP / FTP mirrors. HTTP download links could still be provided, but torrent links could also be provided to help alleviate high traffic, congested downloads.
P2P also allows tracking and stats of an individual download. Each file is tracked by the amount of seeders (people uploading), leechers (people downloading), and total downloads.
I've searched, and I couldn't find a dedicated torrent tracker for Android ROMs; I could only find trackers for general use, or other specific uses (movies, games, etc.), of which not all of these are completely safe due to concern of possible copyrighted content. With Bitdroid, only Android ROMs are allowed, and it is preferred that the original developer of the ROM uploads the file (or with permission from the developer, a 3rd-party user could upload the ROM). Since Android is open-source, there aren't any legal concerns of piracy and such due the open-source licensing of the Android OS.
For an added layer of "security" only an approved member group is allowed to upload files. You must be manually added to the group before being able to upload torrents, to try and further discourage potential piracy or unauthorized uploading of ROMs.
I currently have a splash-page setup, that links to the actual tracker, as well as a forum (work-in-progress).
If you're a developer or know a developer, please sign up on the torrent tracker and/or forum and I can get you setup to upload your torrents, and don't forget to spread the word!
If you have any questions or comments, please either post here or on the website! Come and check it out!
Note: I have permission from both YZ and af974 to post this.
So nice I been waiting for this for so long. Thanks a lot
The majority of devs don't want their roms on torrents.
con247 said:
The majority of devs don't want their roms on torrents.
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Why exactly is that reasoning? It's not illegal, and its a tracker for only android ROMs. Download stats could also be viewed which can be a little bonus if the dev was wondering how many downloads they were getting.. Torrents > HTTP / FTP for mass distribution of large files.
We have full control over the links.
con247 said:
We have full control over the links.
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Elaborate please. You have control over the links on a tracker as well. Its setup so you can delete the torrent if you really want to.
Like I said.. P2P > HTTP / FTP.
Devs don't only have to distribute via Torrent either... can still have HTTP / FTP mirrors for users that don't want to use a torrent client.
Kratz17 said:
So nice I been waiting for this for so long. Thanks a lot
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No problem. I've been waiting for one too, and couldn't find one so I decided to bite the bullet.
don't let the haters get you down.
I want to assure you the initial negative feedback and opposition is generally a common experience among anyone pitching a new idea that hasn't really been done yet.
I mean, what did you expect to hear?
'yeah! do it!' or 'why didn't I think of that? you're genius is astonishing!' No. Naturally our ego's tell us to reply with 'why I haven't done that yet, and won't', or 'big hurdle I foresee'.
So, make like a nike, and just do it!
Believe me, after watching a few of my favorite devs in the vivow community lose past versions of roms they had stored and backed up forever (almost*) lost with the goo.im epic fail recently. They wish they used torrents instead of having control over the downloads with just one server.
Don't let the haters get you down. The only reason they hate on you is because they don't want to like you, but they do.
Good luck!
agree with con on this one.
How stable is a torrent? I would be leary of flashing a ROM that came from 500 different sources at the same time. If a Dev uses a good hosting site, I have noticed no problems with downloads.
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agree with con on this one.
How stable is a torrent? I would be leary of flashing a ROM that came from 500 different sources at the same time. If a Dev uses a good hosting site, I have noticed no problems with downloads.
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MD5.
I, also, have been waiting ages for this. Glad to see it finally coming to fruition.
Been waiting on this. I hope devs hop abroad. There's potential pitfalls of course but the outcome could be good.
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guystyles said:
I want to assure you the initial negative feedback and opposition is generally a common experience among anyone pitching a new idea that hasn't really been done yet.
I mean, what did you expect to hear?
'yeah! do it!' or 'why didn't I think of that? you're genius is astonishing!' No. Naturally our ego's tell us to reply with 'why I haven't done that yet, and won't', or 'big hurdle I foresee'.
So, make like a nike, and just do it!
Believe me, after watching a few of my favorite devs in the vivow community lose past versions of roms they had stored and backed up forever (almost*) lost with the goo.im epic fail recently. They wish they used torrents instead of having control over the downloads with just one server.
Don't let the haters get you down. The only reason they hate on you is because they don't want to like you, but they do.
Good luck!
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Oh I'm not letting them get me down. I just want actual opinions and reasons as to why they don't think it's a good idea, not any stereotypical-XDA "*****ing like little kids" posts. I want constructive criticism, or actual reasons as to why people don't think it's a good idea.
nrfitchett4 said:
agree with con on this one.
How stable is a torrent? I would be leary of flashing a ROM that came from 500 different sources at the same time. If a Dev uses a good hosting site, I have noticed no problems with downloads.
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Torrents are very stable. They download tiny pieces at a time (few MB if that) and then verify it. If the piece fails a hash check, then it's disposed of an re-downloaded from users. I've had this happen to me a few times, and you can see in your torrent client that X amount of pieces have failed hash checks. IMO, it's MUCH more stable and safe than HTTP / FTP. I VERY rarely ever get a bad download from torrents since each piece is hash checked.
As far as using the good hosting site... yes, it can be stable for less people, but what about when they first release a ROM and they're a popular dev? They have how many people downloading from a SINGLE link, until people upload more mirrors (which get buried in the mass posting spree anyway). I got the idea for this after watching this go down in the Viper ROM thread. Tons of people were complaining about slow downloads, and a bunch of people had to post mirrors. Instead of doing that... why not just use torrents and avoid the hassle of waiting for external mirrors from random people? I could say the same thing about being leary about flashing a ROM from an external mirror from somebody other than the dev... they could have corrupted it, inserted malware, etc..
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MD5.
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This. Include a text file with the torrent, or in the description, containing the MD5 sum. It's NO different at all than a normal download other than potential for faster downloads if a lot of users are using it. When less users are using it... go back to the HTTP download if the torrent isn't fast enough.
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Been waiting on this. I hope devs hop abroad. There's potential pitfalls of course but the outcome could be good.
Synergized GS3
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Thanks. I'm hoping devs do hop on because IMO it could become quite successful.
Help spread the word if you like! I may make a smaller sig banner button if people want one, so they can put it in their sigs to help spread the word to devs.
I like this idea. I feel like Devs may not jump on it right away (although they should) but will definitely be successful later on. I have used many many torrents (for things like anime etc) and they are very successful. I believe i have also never had a bad download from a torrent. Speeds can be somewhat iffy (the only problem i may see) because i feel like many users here would not want to always be sharing their speeds. Many big open source linux clients however still have good speeds always. This could be because they have a few dedicated seeders, but I'm not sure.
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I like this idea. I feel like Devs may not jump on it right away (although they should) but will definitely be successful later on. I have used many many torrents (for things like anime etc) and they are very successful. I believe i have also never had a bad download from a torrent. Speeds can be somewhat iffy (the only problem i may see) because i feel like many users here would not want to always be sharing their speeds. Many big open source linux clients however still have good speeds always. This could be because they have a few dedicated seeders, but I'm not sure.
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If I can scrounge up some money to put another drive in my server, I can have it as a bit of a seedbox as well. I can download the ROMs and help seed them when the user count is low.
The tracker base I'm using (phpMyBittorrent) also supports a "seed request" system I believe, so users can request reseeds of dead / low seeded torrents.
The only issue I have with this (not that my opinion matters) is that people will download to their phones and not seed. I have my torrent client set not to seed, for the sake of battery life.
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The only issue I have with this (not that my opinion matters) is that people will download to their phones and not seed. I have my torrent client set not to seed, for the sake of battery life.
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Quite the contrary.. your opinion does matter. I want to hear everybody's concerns so I can address them if they are something to be considered to help develop this. I believe this would probably be a minority issue. Not many people have a torrent client on their phone. If anything, you can setup web access from uTorrent and manage your torrents from your mobile that way, as well, so that you can still seed.
Torrents are much more stable than http. But ur main point in doing this (faster speeds due to http being congested when a lot of people download at same time) is flawed.Unless devs have a very fast upload speed or seedbox, torrents will be even slower (waaaay slower) until many people have the file. This will result in much more *****ing than there is now.Also this wouldn't be a good way for devs to keep their rom stored because as soon as a rom is outdated nobody will seed it. And like somebody else said nobody is going to want to seed every single rom the decide to download. If people aren't required to seed for fear of being banned from a private site then the majority won't seed. Simple as that. With that being said when a torrent has a healthy amount of seeders its by far the fastest way to download files. I wish this would work but unfortunately I don't think the demand is enough to support it.
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Torrents are much more stable than http. But ur main point in doing this (faster speeds due to http being congested when a lot of people download at same time) is flawed.Unless devs have a very fast upload speed or seedbox, torrents will be even slower (waaaay slower) until many people have the file.
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I know this; which is pretty much what I said in a couple posts. And also like I said, devs could still pick HTTP mirrors besides a torrent; I'm not saying get rid of HTTP / FTP, I'm just saying add this on as an option.
This will result in much more *****ing than there is now.Also this wouldn't be a good way for devs to keep their rom stored because as soon as a rom is outdated nobody will seed it.
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If I get more extra cash (college + an apartment is expensive), I will add a larger HDD in my server to store ROMs on. I'm not really counting on this as a way for ROM storage; just as a way for ROM distribution.
And like somebody else said nobody is going to want to seed every single rom the decide to download. If people aren't required to seed for fear of being banned from a private site then the majority won't seed. Simple as that. With that being said when a torrent has a healthy amount of seeders its by far the fastest way to download files. I wish this would work but unfortunately I don't think the demand is enough to support it.
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The tracker base I'm using supports private tracker / ratio-based functions. Right now I have it set to freeleech, but I can always set it to ratio-based. And like I said previously, it also has a request system built into it, which could be used to request a ROM be started up again for seeding.
I don't think stability is an issue with torrents, but the issue I see is that if there's a bug found and the dev wants that rom pulled, or if it gets outdated quickly, you can't stop people from sharing it even if you take it off the tracker. Any open connections will continue, so as long as people are up and running and someone is seeding, a "bad" release could keep being shared and people might not know of an update if they're not keeping up with it.
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I don't think stability is an issue with torrents, but the issue I see is that if there's a bug found and the dev wants that rom pulled, or if it gets outdated quickly, you can't stop people from sharing it even if you take it off the tracker. Any open connections will continue, so as long as people are up and running and someone is seeding, a "bad" release could keep being shared and people might not know of an update if they're not keeping up with it.
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The Dev can delete the torrent, which removes it from the tracker, and sets the status in the torrent client to unregistered. The only way it can still be distributed is through other trackers and/or DHT. I believe I can disable the use of external trackers; not sure if I can disable the use of DHT with the tracker software I'm using, though. I'll have to look into that if it really comes down to that. But, like I said, the dev can remove the ROM by deleting the torrent which should stop sharing (because there is no communication between the tracker once it updates...most clients auto-update the tracker every few minutes... I believe mine is set to every 5-10 minutes at the moment).