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Unlocking the Extended ROM is now possible again on new HTC Hermes ROMs
Download:
Hermes Extended ROM Unlocker & Unhider v3
Works in ALL ROM versions, but you need to CID Unlock your Hermes first if you want to UNLOCK the Extended ROM (you don't need to CID Unlock if you just want to unhide the ExtROM):
HERMES_MountALLExtROM.cab
Instructions:
CID-Unlock your Hermes (NOTE: This step is only needed if you are using a NEW rom and want to UNLOCK the Extended ROM)
Install cab file on your device
Power off the device for 10 seconds
soft reset with stylus
Before asking questions:
Read the wiki:
How to Unlock and Unhide Extended ROM
Available Extended ROM Versions (please post yours if it's not already there!)
Upgrading FAQs (see #11 to #14)
Notes:
All cab files you put on the ExtROM need to be signed with a valid certificate to install after a hard reset (there's no known way to circunvent that yet).
You can use the ExtROM folder as extra storage space (~10Mb).
Enjoy!
pof said:
Those having problems unlocking ExtROM on newer roms, please try this cab file:
HERMES_MountExtROM_v2.cab
Remember you have to power off the device for 10 seconds after installing the cab, then soft reset.
First person trying please post a comment and report if it works
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Ow my golly Pof!!! You are a true GENIUS!!! Thank you very very very much!!! It works flawlessly with the Cingular AKU2.6 Rom!!! Another 9.5MB saved!!! Very grateful!
PERFECTION!!! Now I dont need to go back to the shipped TyTn Rom for the saved Ext_Rom space!!!
pof said:
Those having problems unlocking ExtROM on newer roms, please try this cab file:
HERMES_MountExtROM_v2.cab
Remember you have to power off the device for 10 seconds after installing the cab, then soft reset.
First person trying please post a comment and report if it works
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i just thought i'd try it and i did, it worked! you did it again pof!
pof said:
Those having problems unlocking ExtROM on newer roms, please try this cab file:
HERMES_MountExtROM_v2.cab
Remember you have to power off the device for 10 seconds after installing the cab, then soft reset.
First person trying please post a comment and report if it works
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Is this unlocker easily reversible (translation: how does one lock again)?
pof let me get this right, it is now possible to unlock the extended rom with bootloader 1.06 like the RUU_HER_Cingular_1.34.502.1_1.16.00.00_wwe_cws_ship.exe
Thanks guys for your comments and beta-testing
As you may have seen I splited the old sticky thread about ExtROM unlocking and made this new one, to avoid confussion on new people.
Now to your questions:
goestoeleven said:
Is this unlocker easily reversible (translation: how does one lock again)?
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It's just a registry hack (see the cab file is just 4kb), very easy to hide/lock again. I will post instructions on the wiki later, so it can be integrated on the next version of fit4cat hermes tweaker too
neomanxda said:
pof let me get this right, it is now possible to unlock the extended rom with bootloader 1.06 like the RUU_HER_Cingular_1.34.502.1_1.16.00.00_wwe_cws_ship.exe
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Yes it is posible to unlock the ExtROM on this ROM too, bootloader has nothing to do here... (this is an ExtROM unlocker, not a CID / SIM unlocker).
I ran the v2 unlocker on my 8525 and can see the Extended ROM, but whenever I try to install programs to Extended ROM I get an error that they could not be installed.
Am I doing something wrong? I've done this a bunch on my Apache without any issues.
URPREY: I installed some programs on mine and it's working fine, i'm running cingular's 1.31 rom now, haven't tried with 1.34.
Try running the v2 CAB file again, make sure you power off the device for a while for the registry settings to keep, and then soft reset it, see if it works this time.
I did do that pof
I doublechecked the registry keys, and they correspond to the LOCKED description in the wiki:
LOCKED:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Drivers\MSYSEXT
"Background"=0x0 (0)
"Foreground"=0x0 (0)
When I looked at setup.xml in the cab file, it appears that those are the values specified? Is that the correct value or should they be changed to something different to unlock?
Yes, this is how it should be... the registry keys on the wiki are still not updated, the info there is from the old cab. Can you try to install the old cab first, and then the new one? tell me if it works this way
Hi pof,
I had used this on RUU_HER_ChungHwa_1.25.751.4_1.07.03.10_CHT_SHIP, but it seems doesn't work, it can unhidden the Extended ROM, but can't unlock.
newbie question: what benefits are there to unlocking the extrom?
As URPREY and shaliuxin reported that the new CAB was not working for them I flashed the cingular 1.34 ROM on my Hermes to see if it was any difference.
Without using the CAB, just installed a registry editor and added / modified the following registry keys / values:
Code:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\StorageManager\Profiles\EXT_FLASHDRV]
"MountHidden"=dword:00000000
"Bootphase"=dword:00000002
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\StorageManager\AutoLoad\EXT_FLASHDRV]
"MountHidden"=dword:00000000
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\StorageManager\Profiles\MSFlash]
"MountHidden"=dword:00000000
My ExtROM is unlocked and visible in File explorer. I have installed 3 cabs and can run programs from ExtROM without problems. So if the CAB doesn't work for you, you may try setting the registry keys manually and see if you get better results...
I tested this with Cingular 1.31 and Cingular 1.34 ROMs and worked fine for me.
Thanks pof! I'll give it a go this morning once I get to work by manually editing the registry keys and report back here.
I manually edited my registry to include the above keys, but my ExtROM is still write-protected. I'll email you my reg dump for Storage Manager to see if you see anything causing the issue. Thanks for all your help and hard work on this.
AT POF...so you just copy the cabs then run them from the extended ROM? This will work? I know in the wizard you had to pack it up and do all those fun little step then hard reset your device and have it install automatically. Is this the case. or am I just confused?
slimsaturn: This is just for unhide / unlock the Extended ROM, not for cooking it. Cooking the extrom is only possible with signed cabs.
Those of you having problems unlocking the extended ROM please try this new CAB and report if it works. I think this should work for all ROMs and devices, I've tested with 2 different Hermes without problems on ROMs 1.18 and 1.34.
HERMES_MountALLExtROM.cab
Still not working. Should the installation show up under installed programs?
I emailed you my registry dump a little while ago. Let me know what else I can do to help
pof said:
slimsaturn: This is just for unhide / unlock the Extended ROM, not for cooking it. Cooking the extrom is only possible with signed cabs.
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I know this will unhide the ext rom. but are you running the cabs from the exit rom after you unhide and copy them there? Or are you cooking the EXT ROM
Hello all,
I'm creating this poll to try and figure out why some of us can't unlock our Extended ROM / extrom.
By the way, I'd like to thank all the developers on this forum who contribute software for our Hermes... this thread is in no way a complaint or cut down to their software and guides. All I'm trying to do is just figure out why some of us can't unlock our Extended ROM. Do not Flame or Complain about any developer's software in this thread!!!!!
If you have questions on how to unlock your Extended Rom go to the following links:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_Unhide_Extrom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=283750
Here's my situation:
- I had a stock Cingular 8525 with a 1.06 bootloader and 1.34 ROM
- I then did an unlock sim and super cid and had no problems
- I then used HTweaC 2.1b to Unhide and Unlock my Extended ROM and was successful.
- I then followed Mr.Vanx's guide to upgrade to LVSW WM6
http://www.mrvanx.myzen.co.uk/hermes_guide/lvsw/
- Following the guide, I upgraded my Bootloader to Olipro HardSPL 1.40, upgraded my Radio ROM to 1.38.00.10, and then successfully installed LVSW WM6
At this point, my Extended ROM was unhidden but locked. I've read posts saying that it was because WM6 doesn't allow you to write to the Extended ROM so I assumed it was a limitation of WM6.
I then installed Black 2.0 WM6 and again, my Extended ROM was unhidden but locked.... again assuming it's a WM6 issue....
After tinkering around WM6, I decided to revert back to my Cingular stock 1.34 ROM since I was having trouble using WM6's Internet Sharing to tether my laptop to my 8525.... I find it easier using WM5's DUN since I don't have to muck around with proxy server settings on my laptop when using WM6's Internet Sharing.
Anyways, after using:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_UpgradeGuide
I stripped out the OS.nb of the stock Cingular 1.34 ROM, created a new .nbh and then used ruuwrapper.exe to load the stock Cingular 1.34 ROM.
So now, I'm back at the Cingular 1.34 ROM but after using all the methods I used previously to unhide and unlock my Extended ROM, I'm only able to unhide my Extended ROM but not unlock it. I hope this is not permanent . I really liked having the additional 10MB
Anyways... I hope some of us can figure out a solution to how to unlock our Extended ROM
By the way, I did try to reformat my extended rom using this post but was unsuccessful since the Extended ROM is write protected.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=290132
For those of you who can't unlock, can you post what you tried to use to Unhide and Unlock your Extended ROM to try to find a pattern on our problem?
joel32137 said:
Hello all,
I'm creating this poll to try and figure out why some of us can't unlock our Extended ROM / extrom.
By the way, I'd like to thank all the developers on this forum who contribute software for our Hermes... this thread is in no way a complaint or cut down to their software and guides. All I'm trying to do is just figure out why some of us can't unlock our Extended ROM. Do not Flame or Complain about any developer's software in this thread!!!!!
If you have questions on how to unlock your Extended Rom go to the following links:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_Unhide_Extrom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=283750
Here's my situation:
- I had a stock Cingular 8525 with a 1.06 bootloader and 1.34 ROM
- I then did an unlock sim and super cid and had no problems
- I then used HTweaC 2.1b to Unhide and Unlock my Extended ROM and was successful.
- I then followed Mr.Vanx's guide to upgrade to LVSW WM6
http://www.mrvanx.myzen.co.uk/hermes_guide/lvsw/
- Following the guide, I upgraded my Bootloader to Olipro HardSPL 1.40, upgraded my Radio ROM to 1.38.00.10, and then successfully installed LVSW WM6
At this point, my Extended ROM was unhidden but locked. I've read posts saying that it was because WM6 doesn't allow you to write to the Extended ROM so I assumed it was a limitation of WM6.
I then installed Black 2.0 WM6 and again, my Extended ROM was unhidden but locked.... again assuming it's a WM6 issue....
After tinkering around WM6, I decided to revert back to my Cingular stock 1.34 ROM since I was having trouble using WM6's Internet Sharing to tether my laptop to my 8525.... I find it easier using WM5's DUN since I don't have to muck around with proxy server settings on my laptop when using WM6's Internet Sharing.
Anyways, after using:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_UpgradeGuide
I stripped out the OS.nb of the stock Cingular 1.34 ROM, created a new .nbh and then used ruuwrapper.exe to load the stock Cingular 1.34 ROM.
So now, I'm back at the Cingular 1.34 ROM but after using all the methods I used previously to unhide and unlock my Extended ROM, I'm only able to unhide my Extended ROM but not unlock it. I hope this is not permanent . I really liked having the additional 10MB
Anyways... I hope some of us can figure out a solution to how to unlock our Extended ROM
By the way, I did try to reformat my extended rom using this post but was unsuccessful since the Extended ROM is write protected.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=290132
For those of you who can't unlock, can you post what you tried to use to Unhide and Unlock your Extended ROM to try to find a pattern on our problem?
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I created a patch for the ExtROM for those who aren't SuperCID, you need the developer certificates for it to work, and it's only proven (by me) to be working under WM6, technically it should work with WM5 but we've found that WM5 could possibly have extra security that prevents the dll running, although I don't see how personally.
Hmmm ... I followed the guide except I installed the latest Oli and radio, then reflashed to Black 2.0, and then ran the SuperCID/SIM unlocker doing both.
Able to unlock the extrom and clear it no probs.
Thanks Olipro and Chachi for your input, I'll give it a whirl and hope to unlock my Extended ROM and post my results.
By the way, here's a link to Olipro's patch mentioned above:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=297085
Just read the Olipro Unlocking ExtRom method / thread from the link below, then ran the ExtROMPatcher.exe on my 8525. Patch ran successfully. After a soft reset, I couldn't see the Extended ROM partition. So, I then installed the sdkcerts.cab as well as installed the Security Configuration Manager (for the noobs: downloaded from M$ ... it's a Powertoy for WM5) and made sure Security was turned off for my 8525. I then did a soft reset..... however..... like many others from the thread below, I was unsuccessful. I have to say... Olipro was more than patient trying to help everyone in the thread
joel32137 said:
Thanks Olipro and Chachi for your input, I'll give it a whirl and hope to unlock my Extended ROM and post my results.
By the way, here's a link to Olipro's patch mentioned above:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=297085
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joel32137 said:
Just read the Olipro Unlocking ExtRom method / thread from the link below, then ran the ExtROMPatcher.exe on my 8525. Patch ran successfully. After a soft reset, I couldn't see the Extended ROM partition. So, I then installed the sdkcerts.cab as well as installed the Security Configuration Manager (for the noobs: downloaded from M$ ... it's a Powertoy for WM5) and made sure Security was turned off for my 8525. I then did a soft reset..... however..... like many others from the thread below, I was unsuccessful. I have to say... Olipro was more than patient trying to help everyone in the thread
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you could try renaming OEM_FLASHDRV.dll to something else (like OEM_FLASHDRV2.dll) and then changing the registry to use the new OEM driver.
currently I'm using WM6 with the patch with no problems. since you're on the WM5 ROM it might not work; but as I say, try the above suggestion and see if you get any joy.
After each ROM upgrade I run 2 files... First I run MountExtROM_v2.cab then ExtROMPatcher.exe In that order. The ExtROMPatcher resets the device and my Ext ROM is visible and I can write to it.
This has worked for every WM6 ROM and also some of the WM5 ROMS (but can't remember which except one of the Dopods).
Hi Olipro, thanks for the tip but I tried renaming OEM_FLASHDRV.dll to OEM_FLASHDRV2.dll and updated the corresponding registry key but still no luck.
Hi ach2, thanks for the tip as well but I've definitely ran MountExtROM_v2.cab and then ExtROMPatcher.exe In that order but still no luck....
What's interesting is that only 2 people are not able to unlock their Extended ROM but from reading all the posts related to this issue, it would seem there was more people encountering this problem....
joel32137 said:
Hi Olipro, thanks for the tip but I tried renaming OEM_FLASHDRV.dll to OEM_FLASHDRV2.dll and updated the corresponding registry key but still no luck.
Hi ach2, thanks for the tip as well but I've definitely ran MountExtROM_v2.cab and then ExtROMPatcher.exe In that order but still no luck....
What's interesting is that only 2 people are not able to unlock their Extended ROM but from reading all the posts related to this issue, it would seem there was more people encountering this problem....
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you also installed the SDK certificates?
Definitely installed the SDK certificates you attached from the previous thread.
I followed everything you suggested from the previous thread.
Could I have in someway screwed up the Extended ROM partition during my WM6 flashing?
What's odd is that whenever I flash a new ROM (with an Extended ROM), the Extended ROM gets overwritten so I know it is able to be unlocked.
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you also installed the SDK certificates?
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I think I figured out a solution to this problem.
I was able to unlock my Extended ROM by re-doing pof's SIM & CID Unlocker
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=293665
You'll have to do the entire procedure again using the Instructions.txt
That means going through the process of copying the SSPL-HERM.exe to your Hermes and running from your Hermes. Then run the ROMUpgradeUt.exe from your computer. After the upgrade completes (around 20 min), copy the Herm_Unlock_v3.exe to your PDA and run it. That's what I did to unlock my Ext. Rom.
Please note that I did run a previous version of pof's unlocker and was successful in unlocking my Ext. Rom. It was only after I upgraded to HardSPL V5 and installed WM6 is when I lost write access to my Extended ROM. I'm still not sure if it was the install of HardSPL v5 or WM6 that locked my Extended ROM but I'm just happy it's now unlocked.
Hope this thread helps some noobs.
I have been reading all across the forums how to CID unlock, upgrade etc. However, I am not able to find the ways to do seeminly essential homework before trying to upgrade. These for me are:-
* Finding a way to completely backup all the stuff from original tytn. Like ROM, SPL, IPL, Radio, CIDlock etc. I feel that this is important as if ever I feel like going to the tried old one I should be able to and to preserve the warranty also. Also, the method to roll back if needed. This should be covering re CID locking the phone etc.
It makes sense to create a way to bring the phone to its completlely original shape if we need it
Thanks
Alber
alber786 said:
I have been reading all across the forums how to CID unlock, upgrade etc. However, I am not able to find the ways to do seeminly essential homework before trying to upgrade. These for me are:-
* Finding a way to completely backup all the stuff from original tytn. Like ROM, SPL, IPL, Radio, CIDlock etc. I feel that this is important as if ever I feel like going to the tried old one I should be able to and to preserve the warranty also. Also, the method to roll back if needed. This should be covering re CID locking the phone etc.
It makes sense to create a way to bring the phone to its completlely original shape if we need it
Thanks
Alber
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You do not need to back up your spl, ipl, etc. because if you need to roll back you can just reflash them on, and they can be found around here and in the wiki.
You cannot un-CIDunlock, but if you use hardspl v7 it will "trick" your phone into thinking it is (when in reality it isnt) so that you do not have to actually unlock it. If you ever need to send it in you can just flash the old spl over it.
mcorrie1121 said:
You do not need to back up your spl, ipl, etc. because if you need to roll back you can just reflash them on, and they can be found around here and in the wiki.
You cannot un-CIDunlock, but if you use hardspl v7 it will "trick" your phone into thinking it is (when in reality it isnt) so that you do not have to actually unlock it. If you ever need to send it in you can just flash the old spl over it.
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So you mean that hardspl doesnt CID unlock it? But isnt there really a way to extract the original components and then put them back again ?
thanks
Alber
alber786 said:
So you mean that hardspl doesnt CID unlock it? But isnt there really a way to extract the original components and then put them back again ?
thanks
Alber
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HardSPL does not CID unlock. pof's Free Unlocker (a sticky thread) does the SIM and CID unlocking. HardSPL is a new set of bootloaders allowing upgrade utilities to access and read/write to the phone. The most important aspect of this (besides bypassing the CID check) is the security - it has some overwrite protection built in to prevent you from accidentally corrupting the bootloader area, rendering your phone a brick. HardSPL is a safety measure.
If you check THE WIKI here on xda for the Hermes, you will find some stuff on extracting. It is most probable that it will be FAR easier to find new versions of everything you have, rather than trying to back up and restore. The wiki contains MANY shipped ROMs to allow you to restore back to basically the original condition. LOOK HERE for MW5 shipped ROMs and LOOK HERE for WM6 shipped ROMs.
todd_jg said:
HardSPL does not CID unlock. pof's Free Unlocker (a sticky thread) does the SIM and CID unlocking. HardSPL is a new set of bootloaders allowing upgrade utilities to access and read/write to the phone. The most important aspect of this (besides bypassing the CID check) is the security - it has some overwrite protection built in to prevent you from accidentally corrupting the bootloader area, rendering your phone a brick. HardSPL is a safety measure.
If you check THE WIKI here on xda for the Hermes, you will find some stuff on extracting. It is most probable that it will be FAR easier to find new versions of everything you have, rather than trying to back up and restore. The wiki contains MANY shipped ROMs to allow you to restore back to basically the original condition. LOOK HERE for MW5 shipped ROMs and LOOK HERE for WM6 shipped ROMs.
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what about the radio upgrade
the htc108 thing
its confusing
on pof's sticky it says to downgrade the radio if u have the htc 108..
but on the radio upgrade sticky, it says u can upgrade any phone[hermes] using custom ruu..
todd_jg said:
HardSPL does not CID unlock. pof's Free Unlocker (a sticky thread) does the SIM and CID unlocking. HardSPL is a new set of bootloaders allowing upgrade utilities to access and read/write to the phone. The most important aspect of this (besides bypassing the CID check) is the security - it has some overwrite protection built in to prevent you from accidentally corrupting the bootloader area, rendering your phone a brick. HardSPL is a safety measure.
If you check THE WIKI here on xda for the Hermes, you will find some stuff on extracting. It is most probable that it will be FAR easier to find new versions of everything you have, rather than trying to back up and restore. The wiki contains MANY shipped ROMs to allow you to restore back to basically the original condition. LOOK HERE for MW5 shipped ROMs and LOOK HERE for WM6 shipped ROMs.
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Thanks a lot for the reply, I appreciate the time you spent in expaining this to me and providing these links.
I was wondering if HARDSPL is like shelltool where it will only allow upgrade or flashing of OS part. So, once I use the HARDSPL and flash say HTC official WM6 release or Dopod WM6, will I be ableto to get the bundled radio and SPL and IPL upgrades from these ROMS? and if yes then will HARDSPL get replaced by these SPLs and IPLs built into the ROMS? One more thing, will an upgrade like that can brick the phone as if I rum the official ROM it will try to upgrade the SPL and IPL (I am not sure).
What is the preferred way of upgrading ? unlocking CID by the tool or HARDSPL ?
I have read somewhere that lockwiz tool used for Wizard can save CID also and some tool and put it back also but I dont know how and if the same tool can do it for hermes?
Regards,
Alber
alber786 said:
Thanks a lot for the reply, I appreciate the time you spent in expaining this to me and providing these links.
I was wondering if HARDSPL is like shelltool where it will only allow upgrade or flashing of OS part. So, once I use the HARDSPL and flash say HTC official WM6 release or Dopod WM6, will I be ableto to get the bundled radio and SPL and IPL upgrades from these ROMS? and if yes then will HARDSPL get replaced by these SPLs and IPLs built into the ROMS? One more thing, will an upgrade like that can brick the phone as if I rum the official ROM it will try to upgrade the SPL and IPL (I am not sure).
What is the preferred way of upgrading ? unlocking CID by the tool or HARDSPL ?
I have read somewhere that lockwiz tool used for Wizard can save CID also and some tool and put it back also but I dont know how and if the same tool can do it for hermes?
Regards,
Alber
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Most cooked roms are os only, but a few have a radio, etc. included. If its os only, flashing will only change the os. You can separately flash radio.
Hardspl is the best because its reversible. Well thats not the best word to describe it....id say because its not permanent. But u know what i mean
alber786 said:
Thanks a lot for the reply, I appreciate the time you spent in expaining this to me and providing these links.
I was wondering if HARDSPL is like shelltool where it will only allow upgrade or flashing of OS part. So, once I use the HARDSPL and flash say HTC official WM6 release or Dopod WM6, will I be ableto to get the bundled radio and SPL and IPL upgrades from these ROMS? and if yes then will HARDSPL get replaced by these SPLs and IPLs built into the ROMS? One more thing, will an upgrade like that can brick the phone as if I rum the official ROM it will try to upgrade the SPL and IPL (I am not sure).
What is the preferred way of upgrading ? unlocking CID by the tool or HARDSPL ?
I have read somewhere that lockwiz tool used for Wizard can save CID also and some tool and put it back also but I dont know how and if the same tool can do it for hermes?
Regards,
Alber
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Mcorrie1121 is right. I will add a couple of things.
1. HardSPL is not *necessary* for flashing anything, it only makes it safer and allows you to flash ROMs with CIDs that do not match your device without CID unlocking. Your ROM is basically a few parts - OS, Radio, IPL, SPL, ExtROM, MainSplash and SubSplash. The HardSPL will replace the SPL only. Most non-carrier ROM releases are OS only. Most carrier ROMs (as you pointed out) have ALL of these things. As Mcorrie1121 pointed out, you can easily find a radio - check the wiki, search, etc.
2. Once you have upgraded to a cooked ROM (and HardSPL), you will still be able to upgrade to a Shipped Official ROM. You may need to "unpack" it and use the CustomRUU instead of the shipped updater. That is OK though.
3. HardSPL will not allow overwriting of the IPL/SPL except by another HardSPL (see mrvanx.org downgrade guides). You will not have a problem. It will keep your bootloader zone safe.
4. I don't think there is a preferred way. Some people unlock CID, others do not. There is no reason to *not* unlock it, unless you plan to send it back - and I have never heard of someone getting service rejected for this reason. Wring ROM, yes. CID unlocked, no. That said, maybe try without CID unlocking first and then if you find you need to do it for some reason, then do it. You really do not have to do it, since the Custom Updater bypasses the CID check anyway.
5. Regarding the 0108 Radio BL issue, don't worry much about that - it is an old problem. Just don't go below whatever version you have now.
todd_jg said:
Mcorrie1121 is right. I will add a couple of things.
1. HardSPL is not *necessary* for flashing anything, it only makes it safer and allows you to flash ROMs with CIDs that do not match your device without CID unlocking. Your ROM is basically a few parts - OS, Radio, IPL, SPL, ExtROM, MainSplash and SubSplash. The HardSPL will replace the SPL only. Most non-carrier ROM releases are OS only. Most carrier ROMs (as you pointed out) have ALL of these things. As Mcorrie1121 pointed out, you can easily find a radio - check the wiki, search, etc.
2. Once you have upgraded to a cooked ROM (and HardSPL), you will still be able to upgrade to a Shipped Official ROM. You may need to "unpack" it and use the CustomRUU instead of the shipped updater. That is OK though.
3. HardSPL will not allow overwriting of the IPL/SPL except by another HardSPL (see mrvanx.org downgrade guides). You will not have a problem. It will keep your bootloader zone safe.
4. I don't think there is a preferred way. Some people unlock CID, others do not. There is no reason to *not* unlock it, unless you plan to send it back - and I have never heard of someone getting service rejected for this reason. Wring ROM, yes. CID unlocked, no. That said, maybe try without CID unlocking first and then if you find you need to do it for some reason, then do it. You really do not have to do it, since the Custom Updater bypasses the CID check anyway.
5. Regarding the 0108 Radio BL issue, don't worry much about that - it is an old problem. Just don't go below whatever version you have now.
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Thanks, I appreciate your help. Please tell me if I can put back WM5 back on it after upgrading.
Regards,
Alber
todd_jg said:
Mcorrie1121 is right. I will add a couple of things.
1. HardSPL is not *necessary* for flashing anything, it only makes it safer and allows you to flash ROMs with CIDs that do not match your device without CID unlocking. Your ROM is basically a few parts - OS, Radio, IPL, SPL, ExtROM, MainSplash and SubSplash. The HardSPL will replace the SPL only. Most non-carrier ROM releases are OS only. Most carrier ROMs (as you pointed out) have ALL of these things. As Mcorrie1121 pointed out, you can easily find a radio - check the wiki, search, etc.
2. Once you have upgraded to a cooked ROM (and HardSPL), you will still be able to upgrade to a Shipped Official ROM. You may need to "unpack" it and use the CustomRUU instead of the shipped updater. That is OK though.
3. HardSPL will not allow overwriting of the IPL/SPL except by another HardSPL (see mrvanx.org downgrade guides). You will not have a problem. It will keep your bootloader zone safe.
4. I don't think there is a preferred way. Some people unlock CID, others do not. There is no reason to *not* unlock it, unless you plan to send it back - and I have never heard of someone getting service rejected for this reason. Wring ROM, yes. CID unlocked, no. That said, maybe try without CID unlocking first and then if you find you need to do it for some reason, then do it. You really do not have to do it, since the Custom Updater bypasses the CID check anyway.
5. Regarding the 0108 Radio BL issue, don't worry much about that - it is an old problem. Just don't go below whatever version you have now.
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Dear, please help me with one thing-I am terribly confused about the procedure to upgrade my JASJAM to WM6. I understand that one way is to CIS unlock it and install on it the official and dopod releases of WM6. I wanted to know how can I do the same using the HARDspl. I know that I can install the HARDSPL but after that what ??? Can I then run the offcial RUU from HTC or Dopod or I am supposed to do it some other way as I am afraid that it may contain the SPL and IPL and can break by phone OR I have to use some customRUU (I dont know) OR I am supposed to extract the OS from these official releases (I dont know how) OR ..
Can you please clear these confusion??
I have:-
* I-Mate JASJAM, CID locked i suppose as when I run official HTC or dopod it says this update utility is not for this
*I really wanted to save my devices complete state and a way to revert it to the way it was like SPL, IPL, OS, Radio, CID lock etc.
PLS pls help
Regards,
Alber
alber786 said:
Dear, please help me with one thing-I am terribly confused about the procedure to upgrade my JASJAM to WM6. I understand that one way is to CIS unlock it and install on it the official and dopod releases of WM6. I wanted to know how can I do the same using the HARDspl. I know that I can install the HARDSPL but after that what ??? Can I then run the offcial RUU from HTC or Dopod or I am supposed to do it some other way as I am afraid that it may contain the SPL and IPL and can break by phone OR I have to use some customRUU (I dont know) OR I am supposed to extract the OS from these official releases (I dont know how) OR ..
Can you please clear these confusion??
I have:-
* I-Mate JASJAM, CID locked i suppose as when I run official HTC or dopod it says this update utility is not for this
*I really wanted to save my devices complete state and a way to revert it to the way it was like SPL, IPL, OS, Radio, CID lock etc.
PLS pls help
Regards,
Alber
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CLICK THIS LINK
There are upgrade guides there and guides to put it back the way it was (OS, Radio, IPL, SPL, MainSplash and SubSplash) - it is all covered.
The upgrade guides will get you through the upgrade process. The only thing you need to do after that to use an official upgrade is to unrar (using winrar or something) the executable file and take the nbh and us it with the CustomRUU, which can be found HERE .
Hi @ all...
so time has come i will return my phone to tmobile, because of the heavy problems with the slide-out-keyboard. i tried to solve my keyboard-problems with the orignal shipped rom, but i realised that it doesn't matter which rom i flash to my phone, the problem seems to be of hardware-ish nature...
so now my problem is: i want to fall back to the original state...
i want original IPL,SPL,OS,Radio, Boot, etc etc...
i tried to flash the "Original Shipped TMOB101" from the wiki, it flashed nice with CustomRUU...the original flash utility couldn't find my phone.
so i unpacked the exe and flashed the nbh with CustomRUU... flashed nicely, but didn't boot... first problem: whitescreen, second: hang on windows mobile screen, third: NOGSM... tried to flash newer GSM 1.43. this worked nice then, but isn't original... any idea how to get the 1.05.02 radio running? tried to reflash the complete tmobile nbh again, same result.
tried to flash with Vista, and also with XP, nothing changed...
next problem i assume is: how to downgrade SPL? and how to detect Bootversion? could it be, that i flashed some newer boot in between, because, i have always flashed newest radio roms, could it be that i flashed a boot together with a certain radio?
hope someone can help me... my device is also simunlocked, i hope they do not recognize it at tmobile. but i want to get everything else into original state before returning.
greetings
garfield
There is now an official wm6 update which you can use
it's available here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=337163
If you're wondering if it's properly been released, it's also available on the t-mobile business site.
Shaks
shaks1979,
I have just been to the tmobile business site and I cannot find the WM6 update - please can you post a link to it?
many thanks,
Paul
the german t-mobile site dies not offer to download the upgrade yet.
flashed the new WM6 from t-mobile yesterday, and it works really great, but my keyboard isn't functional anyway...
has anyone an idea how to enable the flash-utility to overwrite the SPl and IPL? because my tri-color-screen reads IPL-1.01 and SPL-2.10-Olipro and this means, both of them have not been updated... any way to overwrite these rom-sections with the now tmobile ones?
so when finished upgrading (IPL and SPL have to be upgraded before i can go on) i will return my phone to a tcom store, they have to bother with my keyboard issue... my phone isn't a half year old by now... keyboard issues like this shouldn't be there i assume
greetings
and thanks for the new wm6 links.
garfield
Extract the nbh file from the T-Mobile ROM and flash it with CustomRUU. This will overwrite IPL / SPL
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which settings do i have to use with CustomRUU? do i have to select same radio-buttons as always? (SPL 2.10-Olipro/Is it HardSPL) ?
okay, so i found the option via try and error i had to use use: Force UNSAFE SSPL.
i have another question now:
as far as i know, t-mobile DE has not released this ROM to its customers via their website, so i have to flash my phone back to WM5 original rom, and bootloaders, because this new tmobile rom didn't make my problems with the keyboard go away.
my local store told me that they will send the device back to tmobile, and tmobile then will repair or exchange the device.
so if they send it back to tmobile, i uess i have to put it into original state, haven't i? cause flashing the rom causes loss of warranty, doesn't it? i hope they will not recognize, that i sim-unlocked it (did not touch the CID).
problem occurring: i extracted the nbh from the original shipped-archive and flashed it with CustomRUU but when booting NO GSM shows up, and windows stops booting during first bootsplash... sometime during second bootsplash... any idea? might it be that it was like this, because of olipros 2.10 SPL?
greetings
garfield
I wonder why you SIM unlocked your device?
The German Hermes never was SIM locked, so, there was no need to unlock it!
You will either have to Soft-CID-unlock or Hard-CID-unlock your device if you want to flash it otherwise it won't work!
What settings are you talking about? You simply copy the nbh file to the CustomRUU folder and run the UPDATE UTILITY in there! There are no settings, it works the same way as the utilities from shipped ROMs - simply follow the instructions on screen and do not plug out nor touch the device until the job is done!
So actually it is not a hermes, it is a MDA Vario 2 from tmobile, isn't it?
partly you're right, the device wasn't sim-locked, but net-locked, wich means i cannot use my second sim card from vodafone with it. so i had to unlock it.
(i tried without unlocking, the phone asked me for a certain code and no, it was not the pin-code from the vodafone-sim )
if you launch CustomRUU you are asked for the version of your SPL, at least this is what happens when i start it. if you cannot imagine what i am talking about, i will make a screenshot, for better understandings.
I had Hard-SPL installed, this is a form of SOFT-CID-unlocking?
with having Hard-SPL installed i could not boot the original shipped german TMOB101-rom from the wiki...
can i flash the old ipl/spl/radio/os without worries?
greetings
garfield
Within the CustomRUU folder you should see a file called ROMUpgradeUt.exe - this never ever asks for SPL, it is nothing but a modified FLASHING UTILITY.
i only have ruuwrapper.exe
i used this customruu v5.2 from olipro's thread
what customruu are you talking about? actually i never saw a file named ROMUpgradeUt.exe
where to find?
thanks for your help.
greetings
garfield
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i have just found this:
NOTE: If your radio version is currently HIGHER than 1.27.00.00 then it is very likely the radio bootloader is version 0108, this WILL NOT allow the radio to be downgraded to a radio containing BL 0106 and will result in a "NO GSM" error. As with other downgrade guides this is NOT intended as a guide for claiming the warranty of the device having flashed components which are not authorised by the manufacturer or carrier.
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on the WM5-Downgrade site over @mrvanx.org
The seller said it is unlocked. How can I verify it?
I read CID Unlocking and Sim Unlocking. How can I confirm both.
Also, how can I tell which version of the radio?
and which version of SPL (3.5 or 1.2)?
Or is there any great tutorial I can setup for the AP4?
I am starting to get confused.
the seller probably was not lying as it is easy to do (thanks to olipro - cmonex/olinex) but if you want to check, press and hold your camera button, whilst doing that press the reset button, and tell us the details on the rainbow screen.
this will also tell you if it is SPL 1.1-1.2 or 3.5
when your done just press reset again
LOCKing is related to SPL. SPL is a part of the "bios" (just to use the PC paradign IPL and SPL are "extended bios" ), then you have the RADIO section of the rom and the OS (WMxx)
Other part of the rom are the EXTENDED ROM (where the file needed for operator customizzation during first install are stored) and splash screens (a FULL ROM means IPL,SPL, SPLASH 1, SPLASH 2, RADIO, OS, EXTENDED ROM).
This "bios" , called SPL can receive commands from RUU (Rom Update Utility, the sw used to flash the rom file). ROM info are "wrapped" in a .nbf file and the RUU, interacting with SPL with some batch commands, flash into the device memory the ROM parts (Splash are flashed in their locations, os, radio, ....) RUU opens the .nbf file, read abatch command file, and send the commands to the SPL to flash the rom sections
Now you can understand how a custom ROM is done: using a "kicken" you can prepare a .nbf file containing the data and the batch command file used by RUU to flash it in the right location of your ROM (SPL, RADIO, OS, SPLASH, or all together) SPL is a KEY part for this process.
With the stock RUU IPL and SPL some controls are done before flashing, first of all device's language and vendor ID, so called CID. If they doesn't mach with the ROM file you will have an error and RUU exits: wrong language, wrong vendor, ....
Flashing a custom SPL you avoid this check (or it sets the CID to "supercid", it means I accept every language and vendor ID)
The SIM unlock (phone working with all SIM card) needs something more complex. In the ATHENA FORUM whe have ATHENA UNLOCKER, from OLIPRO, for SIM Unlock and CID Unlock and ATHENA WRAPPER, just for CID unlock. They will update the HTC SPL to OLIPRO 1.2
Hi sergiopi,
Your post is so concise. You told us the whole theory it may take me more than a day to find. You have the potential to be a book author. Thanks anyway.
Questions:
1. How can I tell whether the sim is unlocked?
2. How can I tell whether the cid is unlocked? Or it is no harm to run the ATHENA UNLOCKER again?
3. What is the different btw SPL 3.5 and 1.2? Should I update it? I am planning to run the AP4.
Thanks again!
Did you completely miss my previous post, if you follow the simple instructions. I gave you earlier, we will be able to answer all your questions.
ice_coffee said:
Did you completely miss my previous post, if you follow the simple instructions. I gave you earlier, we will be able to answer all your questions.
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To check if your Athena is SIM Unlocked take a SIM from your friend's phone who is in another network and put it in your Athena. If it refuses to accept the SIM then it is locked and you have to unlock it. If it accepts the SIM and lets you place a call, it is SIM unlocked and most probably CID Unlocked. To check if it is CID unlocked just do what ice_coffe says.
I didn't miss the post from ice_coffee. My Athena is still in shipping. I just want to get more info first. Besides testing with a real sim card, is there any method we can run from the machine?
alui said:
Hi sergiopi,
Your post is so concise. You told us the whole theory it may take me more than a day to find. You have the potential to be a book author. Thanks anyway.
Questions:
1. How can I tell whether the sim is unlocked?
2. How can I tell whether the cid is unlocked? Or it is no harm to run the ATHENA UNLOCKER again?
3. What is the different btw SPL 3.5 and 1.2? Should I update it? I am planning to run the AP4.
Thanks again!
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Thanks, the post is for you and for other newbies, to help everyone to understand. This is a DEVELOPER'S forum, we like smart users!
alui said:
Hi sergiopi,
Your post is so concise. You told us the whole theory it may take me more than a day to find. You have the potential to be a book author. Thanks anyway.
Questions:
1. How can I tell whether the sim is unlocked?
2. How can I tell whether the cid is unlocked? Or it is no harm to run the ATHENA UNLOCKER again?
3. What is the different btw SPL 3.5 and 1.2? Should I update it? I am planning to run the AP4.
Thanks again!
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Listen Alui. The question numbr 3 shows of your post shows that you are realy a noobie. So if you are still waiting for your new device, do not waste your time but start reading. If you already decided that you want to go for AP4, then did you realy read the AP4 thread from first post? I am almost sure, you didn't.
So please remember, if you do not know what you are doing then you have a big chance to convert your super device into a brick.
And once more, if you browse this forum, you can see how many threads is there, and how many post is in each thread. If you see this you should be sure that you are not the first person here who just got his new device. All your questions were answered many times here so just read and read and after a week of reading start to plan what to do next.