Hello all,
I'm creating this poll to try and figure out why some of us can't unlock our Extended ROM / extrom.
By the way, I'd like to thank all the developers on this forum who contribute software for our Hermes... this thread is in no way a complaint or cut down to their software and guides. All I'm trying to do is just figure out why some of us can't unlock our Extended ROM. Do not Flame or Complain about any developer's software in this thread!!!!!
If you have questions on how to unlock your Extended Rom go to the following links:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_Unhide_Extrom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=283750
Here's my situation:
- I had a stock Cingular 8525 with a 1.06 bootloader and 1.34 ROM
- I then did an unlock sim and super cid and had no problems
- I then used HTweaC 2.1b to Unhide and Unlock my Extended ROM and was successful.
- I then followed Mr.Vanx's guide to upgrade to LVSW WM6
http://www.mrvanx.myzen.co.uk/hermes_guide/lvsw/
- Following the guide, I upgraded my Bootloader to Olipro HardSPL 1.40, upgraded my Radio ROM to 1.38.00.10, and then successfully installed LVSW WM6
At this point, my Extended ROM was unhidden but locked. I've read posts saying that it was because WM6 doesn't allow you to write to the Extended ROM so I assumed it was a limitation of WM6.
I then installed Black 2.0 WM6 and again, my Extended ROM was unhidden but locked.... again assuming it's a WM6 issue....
After tinkering around WM6, I decided to revert back to my Cingular stock 1.34 ROM since I was having trouble using WM6's Internet Sharing to tether my laptop to my 8525.... I find it easier using WM5's DUN since I don't have to muck around with proxy server settings on my laptop when using WM6's Internet Sharing.
Anyways, after using:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_UpgradeGuide
I stripped out the OS.nb of the stock Cingular 1.34 ROM, created a new .nbh and then used ruuwrapper.exe to load the stock Cingular 1.34 ROM.
So now, I'm back at the Cingular 1.34 ROM but after using all the methods I used previously to unhide and unlock my Extended ROM, I'm only able to unhide my Extended ROM but not unlock it. I hope this is not permanent . I really liked having the additional 10MB
Anyways... I hope some of us can figure out a solution to how to unlock our Extended ROM
By the way, I did try to reformat my extended rom using this post but was unsuccessful since the Extended ROM is write protected.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=290132
For those of you who can't unlock, can you post what you tried to use to Unhide and Unlock your Extended ROM to try to find a pattern on our problem?
joel32137 said:
Hello all,
I'm creating this poll to try and figure out why some of us can't unlock our Extended ROM / extrom.
By the way, I'd like to thank all the developers on this forum who contribute software for our Hermes... this thread is in no way a complaint or cut down to their software and guides. All I'm trying to do is just figure out why some of us can't unlock our Extended ROM. Do not Flame or Complain about any developer's software in this thread!!!!!
If you have questions on how to unlock your Extended Rom go to the following links:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_Unhide_Extrom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=283750
Here's my situation:
- I had a stock Cingular 8525 with a 1.06 bootloader and 1.34 ROM
- I then did an unlock sim and super cid and had no problems
- I then used HTweaC 2.1b to Unhide and Unlock my Extended ROM and was successful.
- I then followed Mr.Vanx's guide to upgrade to LVSW WM6
http://www.mrvanx.myzen.co.uk/hermes_guide/lvsw/
- Following the guide, I upgraded my Bootloader to Olipro HardSPL 1.40, upgraded my Radio ROM to 1.38.00.10, and then successfully installed LVSW WM6
At this point, my Extended ROM was unhidden but locked. I've read posts saying that it was because WM6 doesn't allow you to write to the Extended ROM so I assumed it was a limitation of WM6.
I then installed Black 2.0 WM6 and again, my Extended ROM was unhidden but locked.... again assuming it's a WM6 issue....
After tinkering around WM6, I decided to revert back to my Cingular stock 1.34 ROM since I was having trouble using WM6's Internet Sharing to tether my laptop to my 8525.... I find it easier using WM5's DUN since I don't have to muck around with proxy server settings on my laptop when using WM6's Internet Sharing.
Anyways, after using:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_UpgradeGuide
I stripped out the OS.nb of the stock Cingular 1.34 ROM, created a new .nbh and then used ruuwrapper.exe to load the stock Cingular 1.34 ROM.
So now, I'm back at the Cingular 1.34 ROM but after using all the methods I used previously to unhide and unlock my Extended ROM, I'm only able to unhide my Extended ROM but not unlock it. I hope this is not permanent . I really liked having the additional 10MB
Anyways... I hope some of us can figure out a solution to how to unlock our Extended ROM
By the way, I did try to reformat my extended rom using this post but was unsuccessful since the Extended ROM is write protected.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=290132
For those of you who can't unlock, can you post what you tried to use to Unhide and Unlock your Extended ROM to try to find a pattern on our problem?
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I created a patch for the ExtROM for those who aren't SuperCID, you need the developer certificates for it to work, and it's only proven (by me) to be working under WM6, technically it should work with WM5 but we've found that WM5 could possibly have extra security that prevents the dll running, although I don't see how personally.
Hmmm ... I followed the guide except I installed the latest Oli and radio, then reflashed to Black 2.0, and then ran the SuperCID/SIM unlocker doing both.
Able to unlock the extrom and clear it no probs.
Thanks Olipro and Chachi for your input, I'll give it a whirl and hope to unlock my Extended ROM and post my results.
By the way, here's a link to Olipro's patch mentioned above:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=297085
Just read the Olipro Unlocking ExtRom method / thread from the link below, then ran the ExtROMPatcher.exe on my 8525. Patch ran successfully. After a soft reset, I couldn't see the Extended ROM partition. So, I then installed the sdkcerts.cab as well as installed the Security Configuration Manager (for the noobs: downloaded from M$ ... it's a Powertoy for WM5) and made sure Security was turned off for my 8525. I then did a soft reset..... however..... like many others from the thread below, I was unsuccessful. I have to say... Olipro was more than patient trying to help everyone in the thread
joel32137 said:
Thanks Olipro and Chachi for your input, I'll give it a whirl and hope to unlock my Extended ROM and post my results.
By the way, here's a link to Olipro's patch mentioned above:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=297085
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joel32137 said:
Just read the Olipro Unlocking ExtRom method / thread from the link below, then ran the ExtROMPatcher.exe on my 8525. Patch ran successfully. After a soft reset, I couldn't see the Extended ROM partition. So, I then installed the sdkcerts.cab as well as installed the Security Configuration Manager (for the noobs: downloaded from M$ ... it's a Powertoy for WM5) and made sure Security was turned off for my 8525. I then did a soft reset..... however..... like many others from the thread below, I was unsuccessful. I have to say... Olipro was more than patient trying to help everyone in the thread
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you could try renaming OEM_FLASHDRV.dll to something else (like OEM_FLASHDRV2.dll) and then changing the registry to use the new OEM driver.
currently I'm using WM6 with the patch with no problems. since you're on the WM5 ROM it might not work; but as I say, try the above suggestion and see if you get any joy.
After each ROM upgrade I run 2 files... First I run MountExtROM_v2.cab then ExtROMPatcher.exe In that order. The ExtROMPatcher resets the device and my Ext ROM is visible and I can write to it.
This has worked for every WM6 ROM and also some of the WM5 ROMS (but can't remember which except one of the Dopods).
Hi Olipro, thanks for the tip but I tried renaming OEM_FLASHDRV.dll to OEM_FLASHDRV2.dll and updated the corresponding registry key but still no luck.
Hi ach2, thanks for the tip as well but I've definitely ran MountExtROM_v2.cab and then ExtROMPatcher.exe In that order but still no luck....
What's interesting is that only 2 people are not able to unlock their Extended ROM but from reading all the posts related to this issue, it would seem there was more people encountering this problem....
joel32137 said:
Hi Olipro, thanks for the tip but I tried renaming OEM_FLASHDRV.dll to OEM_FLASHDRV2.dll and updated the corresponding registry key but still no luck.
Hi ach2, thanks for the tip as well but I've definitely ran MountExtROM_v2.cab and then ExtROMPatcher.exe In that order but still no luck....
What's interesting is that only 2 people are not able to unlock their Extended ROM but from reading all the posts related to this issue, it would seem there was more people encountering this problem....
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you also installed the SDK certificates?
Definitely installed the SDK certificates you attached from the previous thread.
I followed everything you suggested from the previous thread.
Could I have in someway screwed up the Extended ROM partition during my WM6 flashing?
What's odd is that whenever I flash a new ROM (with an Extended ROM), the Extended ROM gets overwritten so I know it is able to be unlocked.
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you also installed the SDK certificates?
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I think I figured out a solution to this problem.
I was able to unlock my Extended ROM by re-doing pof's SIM & CID Unlocker
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=293665
You'll have to do the entire procedure again using the Instructions.txt
That means going through the process of copying the SSPL-HERM.exe to your Hermes and running from your Hermes. Then run the ROMUpgradeUt.exe from your computer. After the upgrade completes (around 20 min), copy the Herm_Unlock_v3.exe to your PDA and run it. That's what I did to unlock my Ext. Rom.
Please note that I did run a previous version of pof's unlocker and was successful in unlocking my Ext. Rom. It was only after I upgraded to HardSPL V5 and installed WM6 is when I lost write access to my Extended ROM. I'm still not sure if it was the install of HardSPL v5 or WM6 that locked my Extended ROM but I'm just happy it's now unlocked.
Hope this thread helps some noobs.
Related
Unlocking the Extended ROM is now possible again on new HTC Hermes ROMs
Download:
Hermes Extended ROM Unlocker & Unhider v3
Works in ALL ROM versions, but you need to CID Unlock your Hermes first if you want to UNLOCK the Extended ROM (you don't need to CID Unlock if you just want to unhide the ExtROM):
HERMES_MountALLExtROM.cab
Instructions:
CID-Unlock your Hermes (NOTE: This step is only needed if you are using a NEW rom and want to UNLOCK the Extended ROM)
Install cab file on your device
Power off the device for 10 seconds
soft reset with stylus
Before asking questions:
Read the wiki:
How to Unlock and Unhide Extended ROM
Available Extended ROM Versions (please post yours if it's not already there!)
Upgrading FAQs (see #11 to #14)
Notes:
All cab files you put on the ExtROM need to be signed with a valid certificate to install after a hard reset (there's no known way to circunvent that yet).
You can use the ExtROM folder as extra storage space (~10Mb).
Enjoy!
pof said:
Those having problems unlocking ExtROM on newer roms, please try this cab file:
HERMES_MountExtROM_v2.cab
Remember you have to power off the device for 10 seconds after installing the cab, then soft reset.
First person trying please post a comment and report if it works
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Ow my golly Pof!!! You are a true GENIUS!!! Thank you very very very much!!! It works flawlessly with the Cingular AKU2.6 Rom!!! Another 9.5MB saved!!! Very grateful!
PERFECTION!!! Now I dont need to go back to the shipped TyTn Rom for the saved Ext_Rom space!!!
pof said:
Those having problems unlocking ExtROM on newer roms, please try this cab file:
HERMES_MountExtROM_v2.cab
Remember you have to power off the device for 10 seconds after installing the cab, then soft reset.
First person trying please post a comment and report if it works
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i just thought i'd try it and i did, it worked! you did it again pof!
pof said:
Those having problems unlocking ExtROM on newer roms, please try this cab file:
HERMES_MountExtROM_v2.cab
Remember you have to power off the device for 10 seconds after installing the cab, then soft reset.
First person trying please post a comment and report if it works
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Is this unlocker easily reversible (translation: how does one lock again)?
pof let me get this right, it is now possible to unlock the extended rom with bootloader 1.06 like the RUU_HER_Cingular_1.34.502.1_1.16.00.00_wwe_cws_ship.exe
Thanks guys for your comments and beta-testing
As you may have seen I splited the old sticky thread about ExtROM unlocking and made this new one, to avoid confussion on new people.
Now to your questions:
goestoeleven said:
Is this unlocker easily reversible (translation: how does one lock again)?
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It's just a registry hack (see the cab file is just 4kb), very easy to hide/lock again. I will post instructions on the wiki later, so it can be integrated on the next version of fit4cat hermes tweaker too
neomanxda said:
pof let me get this right, it is now possible to unlock the extended rom with bootloader 1.06 like the RUU_HER_Cingular_1.34.502.1_1.16.00.00_wwe_cws_ship.exe
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Yes it is posible to unlock the ExtROM on this ROM too, bootloader has nothing to do here... (this is an ExtROM unlocker, not a CID / SIM unlocker).
I ran the v2 unlocker on my 8525 and can see the Extended ROM, but whenever I try to install programs to Extended ROM I get an error that they could not be installed.
Am I doing something wrong? I've done this a bunch on my Apache without any issues.
URPREY: I installed some programs on mine and it's working fine, i'm running cingular's 1.31 rom now, haven't tried with 1.34.
Try running the v2 CAB file again, make sure you power off the device for a while for the registry settings to keep, and then soft reset it, see if it works this time.
I did do that pof
I doublechecked the registry keys, and they correspond to the LOCKED description in the wiki:
LOCKED:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Drivers\MSYSEXT
"Background"=0x0 (0)
"Foreground"=0x0 (0)
When I looked at setup.xml in the cab file, it appears that those are the values specified? Is that the correct value or should they be changed to something different to unlock?
Yes, this is how it should be... the registry keys on the wiki are still not updated, the info there is from the old cab. Can you try to install the old cab first, and then the new one? tell me if it works this way
Hi pof,
I had used this on RUU_HER_ChungHwa_1.25.751.4_1.07.03.10_CHT_SHIP, but it seems doesn't work, it can unhidden the Extended ROM, but can't unlock.
newbie question: what benefits are there to unlocking the extrom?
As URPREY and shaliuxin reported that the new CAB was not working for them I flashed the cingular 1.34 ROM on my Hermes to see if it was any difference.
Without using the CAB, just installed a registry editor and added / modified the following registry keys / values:
Code:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\StorageManager\Profiles\EXT_FLASHDRV]
"MountHidden"=dword:00000000
"Bootphase"=dword:00000002
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\StorageManager\AutoLoad\EXT_FLASHDRV]
"MountHidden"=dword:00000000
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\StorageManager\Profiles\MSFlash]
"MountHidden"=dword:00000000
My ExtROM is unlocked and visible in File explorer. I have installed 3 cabs and can run programs from ExtROM without problems. So if the CAB doesn't work for you, you may try setting the registry keys manually and see if you get better results...
I tested this with Cingular 1.31 and Cingular 1.34 ROMs and worked fine for me.
Thanks pof! I'll give it a go this morning once I get to work by manually editing the registry keys and report back here.
I manually edited my registry to include the above keys, but my ExtROM is still write-protected. I'll email you my reg dump for Storage Manager to see if you see anything causing the issue. Thanks for all your help and hard work on this.
AT POF...so you just copy the cabs then run them from the extended ROM? This will work? I know in the wizard you had to pack it up and do all those fun little step then hard reset your device and have it install automatically. Is this the case. or am I just confused?
slimsaturn: This is just for unhide / unlock the Extended ROM, not for cooking it. Cooking the extrom is only possible with signed cabs.
Those of you having problems unlocking the extended ROM please try this new CAB and report if it works. I think this should work for all ROMs and devices, I've tested with 2 different Hermes without problems on ROMs 1.18 and 1.34.
HERMES_MountALLExtROM.cab
Still not working. Should the installation show up under installed programs?
I emailed you my registry dump a little while ago. Let me know what else I can do to help
pof said:
slimsaturn: This is just for unhide / unlock the Extended ROM, not for cooking it. Cooking the extrom is only possible with signed cabs.
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I know this will unhide the ext rom. but are you running the cabs from the exit rom after you unhide and copy them there? Or are you cooking the EXT ROM
hi all,
i've just bought a t-mobile vario 2
i;ve read the wiki & a few of the posts regarding upgrading
but to be honest it has so much information & sometimes the information is contradictory.. so it gets confusing
i've been using the uni for a year now
my point is
i want 2 upgrade my hermes 2 wm6
my boot screen says
herm300
IPL-1.01
SPL 1.40.Olipro
i can use a different/other sim card than t-mobile
how do i chek if my hermes is CID unlocked
and what radio i'm using & what's my bootloader number??
i try 2 read the splash screen after soft reset but the radio version goes away pretty fast
do i run POF's unlocker v3a? is it safe to run again, even if my phone is cid unlocked?
in order 2 upgrade 2 wm6
do i need to install olipros hard spl 2.10? and then run customruu?
this is what i mean by confusing?
i've upgraded my magician, uni & wizard
however they all had pretty easy/self explanatory directions?
i'm sorry for sounding like a noob, but its new territory....
thanx in advance
Is there a specific reason you want to CID the device? T-Mobile's data plan s pretty great so I have never seen the need to use another sim in my vario. You dont need to CID unlock to upgrade the rom.
As long as you have installed Olipro's spl to protect against bricking your phone it should be fairly safe to install a wm6 rom. If not, definitely install the current version of hard spl.
Once you have installed SPL, you then run the RUU.exe file that usually comes with the rom. Tha majority will have a tick box on the first page that says auto detect, which will check which version of spl you have installed and then run itself accordingly. It is best to have the current hardspl installed though.
Most of them dont touch your extended rom and only replace the OS rom contents. T-Mob's wm5 extended rom customizations wont work with wm6 anyway so you will need to go looking here for a cab file called (I Believe) tmobileukfixed.cab.
You will also need to look for newer versions of your pocket pc software as some older ones dont play nice with WM6.
Good luck, and if in doubt, read MrVanx's upgrade guide here: http://www.mrvanx.org/cms/
chrisjasper said:
Is there a specific reason you want to CID the device? T-Mobile's data plan s pretty great so I have never seen the need to use another sim in my vario. You dont need to CID unlock to upgrade the rom.
As long as you have installed Olipro's spl to protect against bricking your phone it should be fairly safe to install a wm6 rom. If not, definitely install the current version of hard spl.
Once you have installed SPL, you then run the RUU.exe file that usually comes with the rom. Tha majority will have a tick box on the first page that says auto detect, which will check which version of spl you have installed and then run itself accordingly. It is best to have the current hardspl installed though.
Most of them dont touch your extended rom and only replace the OS rom contents. T-Mob's wm5 extended rom customizations wont work with wm6 anyway so you will need to go looking here for a cab file called (I Believe) tmobileukfixed.cab.
You will also need to look for newer versions of your pocket pc software as some older ones dont play nice with WM6.
Good luck, and if in doubt, read MrVanx's upgrade guide here: http://www.mrvanx.org/cms/
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i dont live in the uK
so the tmobile plan is not the usp
i need to unlock the extende rom as i like 2 install most of my progs on the extended rom and also my ringtones as the sd card takes a cople of seconds b4 it kicks in..
check the wiki under Bootloader information.
Using mtty, there is a command to check CID status.
todd_jg said:
check the wiki under Bootloader information.
Using mtty, there is a command to check CID status.
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hi
i've managed 2 find out that my phones supercid
however i cant get mtty 2 work
i put the phone in bootloader
then i conect the phone via usb
when i rum mtty
it says usb port cannot open
i tried mtty 1.42 as well.....
I have been reading all across the forums how to CID unlock, upgrade etc. However, I am not able to find the ways to do seeminly essential homework before trying to upgrade. These for me are:-
* Finding a way to completely backup all the stuff from original tytn. Like ROM, SPL, IPL, Radio, CIDlock etc. I feel that this is important as if ever I feel like going to the tried old one I should be able to and to preserve the warranty also. Also, the method to roll back if needed. This should be covering re CID locking the phone etc.
It makes sense to create a way to bring the phone to its completlely original shape if we need it
Thanks
Alber
alber786 said:
I have been reading all across the forums how to CID unlock, upgrade etc. However, I am not able to find the ways to do seeminly essential homework before trying to upgrade. These for me are:-
* Finding a way to completely backup all the stuff from original tytn. Like ROM, SPL, IPL, Radio, CIDlock etc. I feel that this is important as if ever I feel like going to the tried old one I should be able to and to preserve the warranty also. Also, the method to roll back if needed. This should be covering re CID locking the phone etc.
It makes sense to create a way to bring the phone to its completlely original shape if we need it
Thanks
Alber
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You do not need to back up your spl, ipl, etc. because if you need to roll back you can just reflash them on, and they can be found around here and in the wiki.
You cannot un-CIDunlock, but if you use hardspl v7 it will "trick" your phone into thinking it is (when in reality it isnt) so that you do not have to actually unlock it. If you ever need to send it in you can just flash the old spl over it.
mcorrie1121 said:
You do not need to back up your spl, ipl, etc. because if you need to roll back you can just reflash them on, and they can be found around here and in the wiki.
You cannot un-CIDunlock, but if you use hardspl v7 it will "trick" your phone into thinking it is (when in reality it isnt) so that you do not have to actually unlock it. If you ever need to send it in you can just flash the old spl over it.
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So you mean that hardspl doesnt CID unlock it? But isnt there really a way to extract the original components and then put them back again ?
thanks
Alber
alber786 said:
So you mean that hardspl doesnt CID unlock it? But isnt there really a way to extract the original components and then put them back again ?
thanks
Alber
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HardSPL does not CID unlock. pof's Free Unlocker (a sticky thread) does the SIM and CID unlocking. HardSPL is a new set of bootloaders allowing upgrade utilities to access and read/write to the phone. The most important aspect of this (besides bypassing the CID check) is the security - it has some overwrite protection built in to prevent you from accidentally corrupting the bootloader area, rendering your phone a brick. HardSPL is a safety measure.
If you check THE WIKI here on xda for the Hermes, you will find some stuff on extracting. It is most probable that it will be FAR easier to find new versions of everything you have, rather than trying to back up and restore. The wiki contains MANY shipped ROMs to allow you to restore back to basically the original condition. LOOK HERE for MW5 shipped ROMs and LOOK HERE for WM6 shipped ROMs.
todd_jg said:
HardSPL does not CID unlock. pof's Free Unlocker (a sticky thread) does the SIM and CID unlocking. HardSPL is a new set of bootloaders allowing upgrade utilities to access and read/write to the phone. The most important aspect of this (besides bypassing the CID check) is the security - it has some overwrite protection built in to prevent you from accidentally corrupting the bootloader area, rendering your phone a brick. HardSPL is a safety measure.
If you check THE WIKI here on xda for the Hermes, you will find some stuff on extracting. It is most probable that it will be FAR easier to find new versions of everything you have, rather than trying to back up and restore. The wiki contains MANY shipped ROMs to allow you to restore back to basically the original condition. LOOK HERE for MW5 shipped ROMs and LOOK HERE for WM6 shipped ROMs.
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what about the radio upgrade
the htc108 thing
its confusing
on pof's sticky it says to downgrade the radio if u have the htc 108..
but on the radio upgrade sticky, it says u can upgrade any phone[hermes] using custom ruu..
todd_jg said:
HardSPL does not CID unlock. pof's Free Unlocker (a sticky thread) does the SIM and CID unlocking. HardSPL is a new set of bootloaders allowing upgrade utilities to access and read/write to the phone. The most important aspect of this (besides bypassing the CID check) is the security - it has some overwrite protection built in to prevent you from accidentally corrupting the bootloader area, rendering your phone a brick. HardSPL is a safety measure.
If you check THE WIKI here on xda for the Hermes, you will find some stuff on extracting. It is most probable that it will be FAR easier to find new versions of everything you have, rather than trying to back up and restore. The wiki contains MANY shipped ROMs to allow you to restore back to basically the original condition. LOOK HERE for MW5 shipped ROMs and LOOK HERE for WM6 shipped ROMs.
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Thanks a lot for the reply, I appreciate the time you spent in expaining this to me and providing these links.
I was wondering if HARDSPL is like shelltool where it will only allow upgrade or flashing of OS part. So, once I use the HARDSPL and flash say HTC official WM6 release or Dopod WM6, will I be ableto to get the bundled radio and SPL and IPL upgrades from these ROMS? and if yes then will HARDSPL get replaced by these SPLs and IPLs built into the ROMS? One more thing, will an upgrade like that can brick the phone as if I rum the official ROM it will try to upgrade the SPL and IPL (I am not sure).
What is the preferred way of upgrading ? unlocking CID by the tool or HARDSPL ?
I have read somewhere that lockwiz tool used for Wizard can save CID also and some tool and put it back also but I dont know how and if the same tool can do it for hermes?
Regards,
Alber
alber786 said:
Thanks a lot for the reply, I appreciate the time you spent in expaining this to me and providing these links.
I was wondering if HARDSPL is like shelltool where it will only allow upgrade or flashing of OS part. So, once I use the HARDSPL and flash say HTC official WM6 release or Dopod WM6, will I be ableto to get the bundled radio and SPL and IPL upgrades from these ROMS? and if yes then will HARDSPL get replaced by these SPLs and IPLs built into the ROMS? One more thing, will an upgrade like that can brick the phone as if I rum the official ROM it will try to upgrade the SPL and IPL (I am not sure).
What is the preferred way of upgrading ? unlocking CID by the tool or HARDSPL ?
I have read somewhere that lockwiz tool used for Wizard can save CID also and some tool and put it back also but I dont know how and if the same tool can do it for hermes?
Regards,
Alber
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Most cooked roms are os only, but a few have a radio, etc. included. If its os only, flashing will only change the os. You can separately flash radio.
Hardspl is the best because its reversible. Well thats not the best word to describe it....id say because its not permanent. But u know what i mean
alber786 said:
Thanks a lot for the reply, I appreciate the time you spent in expaining this to me and providing these links.
I was wondering if HARDSPL is like shelltool where it will only allow upgrade or flashing of OS part. So, once I use the HARDSPL and flash say HTC official WM6 release or Dopod WM6, will I be ableto to get the bundled radio and SPL and IPL upgrades from these ROMS? and if yes then will HARDSPL get replaced by these SPLs and IPLs built into the ROMS? One more thing, will an upgrade like that can brick the phone as if I rum the official ROM it will try to upgrade the SPL and IPL (I am not sure).
What is the preferred way of upgrading ? unlocking CID by the tool or HARDSPL ?
I have read somewhere that lockwiz tool used for Wizard can save CID also and some tool and put it back also but I dont know how and if the same tool can do it for hermes?
Regards,
Alber
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Mcorrie1121 is right. I will add a couple of things.
1. HardSPL is not *necessary* for flashing anything, it only makes it safer and allows you to flash ROMs with CIDs that do not match your device without CID unlocking. Your ROM is basically a few parts - OS, Radio, IPL, SPL, ExtROM, MainSplash and SubSplash. The HardSPL will replace the SPL only. Most non-carrier ROM releases are OS only. Most carrier ROMs (as you pointed out) have ALL of these things. As Mcorrie1121 pointed out, you can easily find a radio - check the wiki, search, etc.
2. Once you have upgraded to a cooked ROM (and HardSPL), you will still be able to upgrade to a Shipped Official ROM. You may need to "unpack" it and use the CustomRUU instead of the shipped updater. That is OK though.
3. HardSPL will not allow overwriting of the IPL/SPL except by another HardSPL (see mrvanx.org downgrade guides). You will not have a problem. It will keep your bootloader zone safe.
4. I don't think there is a preferred way. Some people unlock CID, others do not. There is no reason to *not* unlock it, unless you plan to send it back - and I have never heard of someone getting service rejected for this reason. Wring ROM, yes. CID unlocked, no. That said, maybe try without CID unlocking first and then if you find you need to do it for some reason, then do it. You really do not have to do it, since the Custom Updater bypasses the CID check anyway.
5. Regarding the 0108 Radio BL issue, don't worry much about that - it is an old problem. Just don't go below whatever version you have now.
todd_jg said:
Mcorrie1121 is right. I will add a couple of things.
1. HardSPL is not *necessary* for flashing anything, it only makes it safer and allows you to flash ROMs with CIDs that do not match your device without CID unlocking. Your ROM is basically a few parts - OS, Radio, IPL, SPL, ExtROM, MainSplash and SubSplash. The HardSPL will replace the SPL only. Most non-carrier ROM releases are OS only. Most carrier ROMs (as you pointed out) have ALL of these things. As Mcorrie1121 pointed out, you can easily find a radio - check the wiki, search, etc.
2. Once you have upgraded to a cooked ROM (and HardSPL), you will still be able to upgrade to a Shipped Official ROM. You may need to "unpack" it and use the CustomRUU instead of the shipped updater. That is OK though.
3. HardSPL will not allow overwriting of the IPL/SPL except by another HardSPL (see mrvanx.org downgrade guides). You will not have a problem. It will keep your bootloader zone safe.
4. I don't think there is a preferred way. Some people unlock CID, others do not. There is no reason to *not* unlock it, unless you plan to send it back - and I have never heard of someone getting service rejected for this reason. Wring ROM, yes. CID unlocked, no. That said, maybe try without CID unlocking first and then if you find you need to do it for some reason, then do it. You really do not have to do it, since the Custom Updater bypasses the CID check anyway.
5. Regarding the 0108 Radio BL issue, don't worry much about that - it is an old problem. Just don't go below whatever version you have now.
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Thanks, I appreciate your help. Please tell me if I can put back WM5 back on it after upgrading.
Regards,
Alber
todd_jg said:
Mcorrie1121 is right. I will add a couple of things.
1. HardSPL is not *necessary* for flashing anything, it only makes it safer and allows you to flash ROMs with CIDs that do not match your device without CID unlocking. Your ROM is basically a few parts - OS, Radio, IPL, SPL, ExtROM, MainSplash and SubSplash. The HardSPL will replace the SPL only. Most non-carrier ROM releases are OS only. Most carrier ROMs (as you pointed out) have ALL of these things. As Mcorrie1121 pointed out, you can easily find a radio - check the wiki, search, etc.
2. Once you have upgraded to a cooked ROM (and HardSPL), you will still be able to upgrade to a Shipped Official ROM. You may need to "unpack" it and use the CustomRUU instead of the shipped updater. That is OK though.
3. HardSPL will not allow overwriting of the IPL/SPL except by another HardSPL (see mrvanx.org downgrade guides). You will not have a problem. It will keep your bootloader zone safe.
4. I don't think there is a preferred way. Some people unlock CID, others do not. There is no reason to *not* unlock it, unless you plan to send it back - and I have never heard of someone getting service rejected for this reason. Wring ROM, yes. CID unlocked, no. That said, maybe try without CID unlocking first and then if you find you need to do it for some reason, then do it. You really do not have to do it, since the Custom Updater bypasses the CID check anyway.
5. Regarding the 0108 Radio BL issue, don't worry much about that - it is an old problem. Just don't go below whatever version you have now.
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Dear, please help me with one thing-I am terribly confused about the procedure to upgrade my JASJAM to WM6. I understand that one way is to CIS unlock it and install on it the official and dopod releases of WM6. I wanted to know how can I do the same using the HARDspl. I know that I can install the HARDSPL but after that what ??? Can I then run the offcial RUU from HTC or Dopod or I am supposed to do it some other way as I am afraid that it may contain the SPL and IPL and can break by phone OR I have to use some customRUU (I dont know) OR I am supposed to extract the OS from these official releases (I dont know how) OR ..
Can you please clear these confusion??
I have:-
* I-Mate JASJAM, CID locked i suppose as when I run official HTC or dopod it says this update utility is not for this
*I really wanted to save my devices complete state and a way to revert it to the way it was like SPL, IPL, OS, Radio, CID lock etc.
PLS pls help
Regards,
Alber
alber786 said:
Dear, please help me with one thing-I am terribly confused about the procedure to upgrade my JASJAM to WM6. I understand that one way is to CIS unlock it and install on it the official and dopod releases of WM6. I wanted to know how can I do the same using the HARDspl. I know that I can install the HARDSPL but after that what ??? Can I then run the offcial RUU from HTC or Dopod or I am supposed to do it some other way as I am afraid that it may contain the SPL and IPL and can break by phone OR I have to use some customRUU (I dont know) OR I am supposed to extract the OS from these official releases (I dont know how) OR ..
Can you please clear these confusion??
I have:-
* I-Mate JASJAM, CID locked i suppose as when I run official HTC or dopod it says this update utility is not for this
*I really wanted to save my devices complete state and a way to revert it to the way it was like SPL, IPL, OS, Radio, CID lock etc.
PLS pls help
Regards,
Alber
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CLICK THIS LINK
There are upgrade guides there and guides to put it back the way it was (OS, Radio, IPL, SPL, MainSplash and SubSplash) - it is all covered.
The upgrade guides will get you through the upgrade process. The only thing you need to do after that to use an official upgrade is to unrar (using winrar or something) the executable file and take the nbh and us it with the CustomRUU, which can be found HERE .
I installed Olipro Hard SPL and am now able to try any wm6 ROM without SPL.
After having tried many of them, I would like to downgrade and try the last Qtek shipped ROM for wizard: QT_FR_9100_2170706_21707106_20710_180406.
But no matter how I try, I'm now unable to install that wm5 ROM.
Even my former SPV M3000 shipped ROM refuse to re-install.
I guess it's either a problem of RUU, or more probably a problem of SPL on those ROM.
I'd like to remove their SPL, but I don't know how to do.
Any tutorial, advice, or special no ID RUU that fits well those wm5 ROM?
The actual problem with this Rom is the RUU.
It won't let you downgrade.
However it is wise to get rid of the IPL/SPL, for safety and for keeping the hard SPL.
You can use typho5.exe to disassemble the ROM in parts, and use nbftool to re-assemble it without using the IPL/SPL.
They are available in the ROM kitchens.
Use the ruu in the hard spl thread for flashing.
Thanks for the reply, Equinoxe.
Actually I've already tried many RUU, not only the Ruu already included in the official ROM.
Mun RUU etc. But no luck, all kind of error occured but the the flashing remains impossible.
I'll try to find the tools you told me about and see whether removing IPL/SPL makes it easier to flash those ROM.
If you know any special RUU suitable for such a downgrade, please, let me know.
riri22 said:
Thanks for the reply, Equinoxe.
Actually I've already tried many RUU, not only the Ruu already included in the official ROM.
Mun RUU etc. But no luck, all kind of error occured but the the flashing remains impossible.
I'll try to find the tools you told me about and see whether removing IPL/SPL makes it easier to flash those ROM.
If you know any special RUU suitable for such a downgrade, please, let me know.
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If Mun's RUU didn't do the trick, you better use the CORE pro kitchen.
You can extract the parts with typho5.exe
usage:
typho5.exe -x nk.nbf
all the parts will be created/extracted
Delete all the IPL_1 IPL_2 SPL_1 and SPL_2 parts
use nbftool to reassemble the ROM. (read the PDf to see the starting addresses, although nbftool should be patched to show the right addresses)
Good luck
EquinoXe
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If Mun's RUU didn't do the trick, you better use the CORE pro kitchen.
You can extract the parts with typho5.exe
usage:
typho5.exe -x nk.nbf
all the parts will be created/extracted
Delete all the IPL_1 IPL_2 SPL_1 and SPL_2 parts
use nbftool to reassemble the ROM. (read the PDf to see the starting addresses, although nbftool should be patched to show the right addresses)
Good luck
EquinoXe
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Hi Equinox, thanks for the reply.
I started trying to get typho working, but all I could see was a brief command prompt and nothing else.
Finally, I ended up using Molski DevPack, which already includes those tools, in quite an ergonomic way.
After finding a guide about using those tools, It took me, no kidding about 10 mn for the whole process and 5 more to do the flashing.
I used nb2nbf_wizard to reassemble the ROM with only the parts I wanted to keep, including the extended ROM.
Regarding the address, it did it automatically, except for the HTC logo that I did manually, and also for the name of the Extended and Logo I renamed according to the sample jpeg showing that soft in action.
Since I kept the extended ROM and the original splash and logo screen, and I now have an authentic Qtek Wizard, just for fun.
But the most important is the feeling of building one's own ROM, according to your own taste and choice. Wonderful.
You were right: after having removed SPL/IPL and rebuilt the ROM, the Mun RUU worked flawlessly to flash my so called Qtek ROM onto my wizard.
In the meantime, It got rid of the pile of miscellanous splash screens and logos that were left since the install of all previous wm6 ROM.
Thanks again for the tips.
P.S.: the guide I used to understand how to use the Molski DevPack:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=320910&highlight=RUU_2001
Can't update rom anymore
Info about phone
WIZA200
IPL 2.21.0001
SPL 2.21.olip
GSM 02.19.11
OS 6.0.0.0
TNT_5.0_Wizard_TouchFLO
Windows XP
Active Sync 4.5 (Works Fine)
When i try to install another ROM i get communication error[224] : DEVICE NOT RESPONDING
When i try to install Cert_SPCS.cab or EnableRapi.cab or TomTom i get installation of xxxx.cab was unsuccessful.
Please help
Hi,
i was trying to upgrade my Hermes to WM6 and i was doing it according to mrvnx guide. First i tried the WM6 guide. Ipl was 1.01 and SPL was 1.11. Evrything went fine up until the part where the actual ROM was supposed to be flashed. The update pocess started, and i went for a smoke somewhere at 2%. When i came back, there was a message saying image file was corrupted, and Hermes was up and running. So, my first instinct was that i missunderstood something and that that guide was for phones already having WM6, so i decided to do the WM5 guide. I flashed the SPL, skipped the radio upgrade (cause i didn't know whether to use that version or the later one) and skipped to the next page. And, low and behold, there it says "Firstly download the WM5 ROM you wish to upgrade to"
And now i'm stuck and i don't know what to do. Should i get some WM5 ROM and first upgrade to it and then to WM6? Or should i go straight for WM6 ROM? If so, do i just follow the WM5 guide only using WM6 ROM or do i just flash it by the WM6 guide?
The phone still works with no problems at all. The desired WM6 ROM is Pays Full. Is it really corupted (got it from the "download full" link in the first post here), or was it my mistake?
Sim unlock and cid unlock your device then - http://pof.eslack.org/hermes-unlocker/
Download your carriers Rom (wm5 or wm6 - o2,orange,at&t etc)
then flash that.
then HARDSPL your device - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=296722
then use modified updater to flash your device with the wm6/6.1 rom of your choice.. works fine for me.
2.10 bootloader with the "is it hardspl" checked and wa'la its updated
hope this helps.
Thanx for the answer. I doubt i'll find my carrier's rom, since i'm from Croatia, and i think it hasn't been posted here, and certainly hasn't been posted on my provider's site. I did make a backup before upgrading, and i have the three raw files made with itsutils. Will this do?
Also, could you please explain why i need to sim/cid unlock it? The device itself is not branded at all, i believe it's only locked to the provider's sim, and that's all. Does sim /cid unlocking cover that or is it about something else?
Thanx!
Sim unlocking = you can use other sims
CID unlocking = you can use other roms (maybe why your update is crashing)
HARDSPL = One less chance of bricking your device
as your device is still currently up and running im guessing you can do it all via that rom.
Ok, just so i don't missunderstand you, can i do what you suggested, but without flashing the carrier's rom?
you can, however you may encounter problems with wm6.1 in the future (hard resets etc)
OK to clear this thread up....
...make sure you have flashed HardSPL before continuing then...
...redownload the ROM it sounds like it has become corrupted whilst being downloaded so make sure you unzip the whole thing to a folder first then try it.
did everything like kingsizeriz told me, except i did it on the existing rom. uploaded the same rom i tried before and it worked like a charm. me and mates have been fiddling with it the whole evening and noticed no problems so far. Thanx for the help, much appreciated
Btw, one last question, is NK.EXE supposed to be 0 bytes?