I installed Olipro Hard SPL and am now able to try any wm6 ROM without SPL.
After having tried many of them, I would like to downgrade and try the last Qtek shipped ROM for wizard: QT_FR_9100_2170706_21707106_20710_180406.
But no matter how I try, I'm now unable to install that wm5 ROM.
Even my former SPV M3000 shipped ROM refuse to re-install.
I guess it's either a problem of RUU, or more probably a problem of SPL on those ROM.
I'd like to remove their SPL, but I don't know how to do.
Any tutorial, advice, or special no ID RUU that fits well those wm5 ROM?
The actual problem with this Rom is the RUU.
It won't let you downgrade.
However it is wise to get rid of the IPL/SPL, for safety and for keeping the hard SPL.
You can use typho5.exe to disassemble the ROM in parts, and use nbftool to re-assemble it without using the IPL/SPL.
They are available in the ROM kitchens.
Use the ruu in the hard spl thread for flashing.
Thanks for the reply, Equinoxe.
Actually I've already tried many RUU, not only the Ruu already included in the official ROM.
Mun RUU etc. But no luck, all kind of error occured but the the flashing remains impossible.
I'll try to find the tools you told me about and see whether removing IPL/SPL makes it easier to flash those ROM.
If you know any special RUU suitable for such a downgrade, please, let me know.
riri22 said:
Thanks for the reply, Equinoxe.
Actually I've already tried many RUU, not only the Ruu already included in the official ROM.
Mun RUU etc. But no luck, all kind of error occured but the the flashing remains impossible.
I'll try to find the tools you told me about and see whether removing IPL/SPL makes it easier to flash those ROM.
If you know any special RUU suitable for such a downgrade, please, let me know.
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If Mun's RUU didn't do the trick, you better use the CORE pro kitchen.
You can extract the parts with typho5.exe
usage:
typho5.exe -x nk.nbf
all the parts will be created/extracted
Delete all the IPL_1 IPL_2 SPL_1 and SPL_2 parts
use nbftool to reassemble the ROM. (read the PDf to see the starting addresses, although nbftool should be patched to show the right addresses)
Good luck
EquinoXe
the-equinoxe said:
If Mun's RUU didn't do the trick, you better use the CORE pro kitchen.
You can extract the parts with typho5.exe
usage:
typho5.exe -x nk.nbf
all the parts will be created/extracted
Delete all the IPL_1 IPL_2 SPL_1 and SPL_2 parts
use nbftool to reassemble the ROM. (read the PDf to see the starting addresses, although nbftool should be patched to show the right addresses)
Good luck
EquinoXe
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Hi Equinox, thanks for the reply.
I started trying to get typho working, but all I could see was a brief command prompt and nothing else.
Finally, I ended up using Molski DevPack, which already includes those tools, in quite an ergonomic way.
After finding a guide about using those tools, It took me, no kidding about 10 mn for the whole process and 5 more to do the flashing.
I used nb2nbf_wizard to reassemble the ROM with only the parts I wanted to keep, including the extended ROM.
Regarding the address, it did it automatically, except for the HTC logo that I did manually, and also for the name of the Extended and Logo I renamed according to the sample jpeg showing that soft in action.
Since I kept the extended ROM and the original splash and logo screen, and I now have an authentic Qtek Wizard, just for fun.
But the most important is the feeling of building one's own ROM, according to your own taste and choice. Wonderful.
You were right: after having removed SPL/IPL and rebuilt the ROM, the Mun RUU worked flawlessly to flash my so called Qtek ROM onto my wizard.
In the meantime, It got rid of the pile of miscellanous splash screens and logos that were left since the install of all previous wm6 ROM.
Thanks again for the tips.
P.S.: the guide I used to understand how to use the Molski DevPack:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=320910&highlight=RUU_2001
Can't update rom anymore
Info about phone
WIZA200
IPL 2.21.0001
SPL 2.21.olip
GSM 02.19.11
OS 6.0.0.0
TNT_5.0_Wizard_TouchFLO
Windows XP
Active Sync 4.5 (Works Fine)
When i try to install another ROM i get communication error[224] : DEVICE NOT RESPONDING
When i try to install Cert_SPCS.cab or EnableRapi.cab or TomTom i get installation of xxxx.cab was unsuccessful.
Please help
Related
OK im not a new to windows mobile, i have flashed before many times but with wizard.
I want to upgrade my brother hermes,
ipl 1.01
spl 1.06
Im quite familiar with wizards "shelltool" (if you know) which just boots the OS and nothing else.
So can you guide as which tool i should use to just upgrade the OS and leave IPL and SPL and GSM as it is. I think SSPL should do??
Check out THIS MOST AWESOME GUIDE. MrVanx is the best and his guide will give you all you need.
But im in warranty, and i dont wanna lose it by overwriting spl,
Is there any other way to upgrade.
I think SSPL will do but not sure do i need to check for CID also??
Thanks for quick reply.
If your warranty is important, then I would read it very closely.
Probably only upgrades available from your manufacturer or your service provider would be allowed, and in that case you follow their instructions to the letter and if something goes wrong, it's up to them to resolve.
If you go loading WM6 and it's not supported, then you'll be on your own so you might as well load best/safest IPL & HARDSSPL as the experts have so wonderfully published for us lesser experienced people.
If it was my brothers phone, I wouldn't touch it because he'd either hit me or be bugging me for weeks about different versions & software etc, etc, etc
That's just my 2cents anyway.
Good luck! Oggy.
samy.3660 said:
But im in warranty, and i dont wanna lose it by overwriting spl,
Is there any other way to upgrade.
I think SSPL will do but not sure do i need to check for CID also??
Thanks for quick reply.
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I would suggest not flashing a radio if you don't flash Olipro's HardSPL.
But SSPL will allow you to bypass the CID check for roms, similar to the shelltool for Wizards.
I have learned now to decompile and compile the nbh file.
So i can compile now any rom with OS only and flash it via SSPL.
Can anybody guide me to a guide to use SSPL. OR can u say???
I have one more confusion regarding SSPL that it does change the SPL for time being(for flashing) or for always??
Again if anything goes wrong while flashing the rom(only OS) will i be able to flash the original rom directly with original SPL.
Hey there,
got a "new" device by T-Mob and wanted to unlock it again. So I did, and unlocking worked so far. Now I want to flash the original shipped Rom by T-Mob Germany, but this doesn't work. Device changes to bootloader and than the computer tells me to check the cable. Tried to flash the rom with changing to bootloader and than start flashing, too, but same error. I tried to flash the unlocker-radio-rom again and that works.
Now I need a solution to flash original T-Mob shipped (WM5).
Any ideas?
Update: Flashing with Custom RUU and the nbh-file from original Rom works. But still no 'normal' flashing possible.
Is it possible to set back SPL 1.04 instead of 1.40.Olipro (by the way nice work Olipro, but not for warranty-reasons )
No idea anybody?
This issue has been documented to DEAT, the reason a standard RUU program doesnt work correctly is because there is a modified (and FAR SUPERIOR) bootloader on the device and the RUU doesnt understand what it is.
CustomRUU can detect it because olipro has built the support for the different SPL versions into it.
It is highly recommended that you update to HardSPLv7 (SPL version 2.10.olipro) as this protects your device against a load of possible ways to really damage your device.
By following the guides i have compiled on "how to safely flash WM5" and the various downgrade/upgrade guides on my site you might see how much better CustomRUU and nbh editting is.....also i recommend you read the wiki before going any further.
Thank you so much! Will try it tomorrow! I know, that the newer SPL-stuff is better, but I'm not so much into it, because I just run the WM5-Rom and wanted a SIM-Unlock. Because of warranty reasons (on 2nd device) I want to get back to the original SW SPL and so on. But I really think of installing WM6 when my device is completely back alive Thank you
HTC Wizard SoftSPL (sSPL) For G4 Wizards
FAQ:
What is SoftSPL?
-SoftSPL is a patched SPL that will temporary unlock your CID (untill reboot).
-It will be copied to your device and loaded (BUT NOT FLASHED!), the device is tricked to believe it has SuperCID (More accuratly g_cKeyCardSecurityLevel will be 0 ).
Why Temporary?
-1st because of warranty, since there is no CID block written, warranty isn't void
-2nd with this tool it's not necesarry to have a permanently unlocked CID.
-3rd it's safe, it doesn't flash CID block or IPL/SPL by it's own, but choose your ROM you want to flash wisely!
Isn't shelltool the same?
-no shelltool will strip the rom, and then flash it with pdocwrite, where sSPL is a bootloader which says it has supercid, thus tricking the RomUpdateUtility.
But can I make it permanent?
-Yes it can make it semi permanent, with HardSPL (it's the same trick, but now a patched SPL is flashed to device).
What does Soft SPL change on my device?
-nothing, it's loaded into memory. Only the ROM you choose to flash with the RUU will change your device.
USE AT OWN RISK
How To use?
If you don't know what a G4 safe ROM is, don't even try to upgrade!
WILL NOT WORK IN VISTA
-Unzip SoftSPL.zip
-copy the nk.nbf file from desired G4 safe ROM to the SoftSPL folder
-Fully Connect to ActiveSync
-Run START-sSPL.exe
-the Screen of your Device will turn white, don't panic, this is normal
-SoftSPL will now run the RUU, proceed as usual (the screen of the wizard will stay white during whole process, again don't panic!)
DO NOT PROCEED WITH RUU if the screen isn't WHITE, OR when in bootloader SPL version isn't 2.21.olip
G4 Safe means:
-No IPL/SPL and no Extended ROM.
Many Thanks Go to:
Olipro: For patching the latest SPL
SAA044: For testing all the versions, and keeping his head cool when the first hardSPL killed his Wizard (beyond repair!), and for keeping on testing the new versions with his brand new Wizard!
Whiterat: For all his technical and moral support, without him it wouldn't have excisted.
Pof & Des: From whom I took the idea, and some of the scripts.
NB. This sSPL is not for G3, it will proceed with updating, but in the end OS will not be written, tested it with my own G3. Beware of the SPL/IPL (there is danger to flash G4 spl on your G3 due to the fact you are using a G4 sSPL, the RUU will probably think it's running from a G4 device!).
NB.2 If you want to mtty in stead of flashing a ROM, place mtty in the folder and rename it 2.exe
[EDIT:12-september 19:54] I updated the file for a confirmed working RC1 (v0.1) WITH the missing dll [/EDIT]
[edit] 23.09.07
Some people reported that enable rapi does not always work, if that is the case for you, you can try to replace the original enable-rapi with the one attached here.
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Well Done Eqx and Well Done to everybody else involved.
I look forward to giving this a go.
This is great work.. I will try this first thing in the morning..
Many Thanks
First of all many thanks for ur effort.
second-should i back to the love room befor flashing this room or i can flash directly from any room?
third - with shell tool if any problems happend i can back to love room and retry again. is it possible here also?
forth - is soft room = new room without spl & ipl?
awaiting ur reply & thanks again for ur hard work
First of all many thanks for ur effort.
second-should i back to the love room befor flashing this room or i can flash directly from any ROM?
third - with shell tool if any problems happend i can back to love room and retry again. is it possible here also?
forth - is soft (safe?) ROM = new ROM without spl & ipl?
awaiting ur reply & thanks again for ur hard work
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First, you're welcome.
2nd Please keep in mind you need IPL/SPL 2.xx.00001 for WM6 (use the latest officcial one from your provider)
3rd It's not different from an ordinary flash, you can go back to any ROM that is G4 safe.
4rd G4 safe means no IPL/SPL (Extended ROM hasn't been tested yet)
Thanks bro
thanks bro for ur quick reply & i will try it as soon as TNT5 release.(inshaa-allah)
it's sound pretty easy ... i'mma try it 2marow as well .
thanks for everything
where r u guys?
42 person's were downloded without any comments. your feedback is very important to other's.
yalla come on
[solution] G4 SoftSPL Flash any ROM to CID locked device
Thanks!! I wil post the results a soon as i flash a new ROM
Thanks!! It's 2:33 in the morning where I live and I just found this. Am trying now. Will report results.
I tried it and it didn't work. But it was probaly my fault.
Would anyone be so friendly posting some G4 Save-Roms. I think a lot of us guys aren't sure wich are save and wich aren't.
Thank you
thomme
My way
For anyone interested i did it like this!!!!
1. Flashed back to latest origenal rom.
2. Copied the file into shelltool directory to verify the ipl/spl status. (Normally most roms here dont have ipl/spl in it, never hurts to check though.
3. Used wizard service tool to make sure the enable rapi command is installed on device.
4. Copied the desired nk.nbf file into softspl (root) folder.
5. Ran the main exe file without errors and had wm6 flashed successfully.
saa044 said:
For anyone interested i did it like this!!!!
1. Flashed back to latest origenal rom.
2. Copied the file into shelltool directory to verify the ipl/spl status. (Normally most roms here dont have ipl/spl in it, never hurts to check though.
3. Used wizard service tool to make sure the enable rapi command is installed on device.
4. Copied the desired nk.nbf file into softspl (root) folder.
5. Ran the main exe file without errors and had wm6 flashed successfully.
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The only difference now is that there is a ROM folder now
hmmm
thomme said:
I tried it and it didn't work. But it was probaly my fault.
Would anyone be so friendly posting some G4 Save-Roms. I think a lot of us guys aren't sure wich are save and wich aren't.
Thank you
thomme
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Most of the roms on this page should be G4 safe.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=wizard_WM_6
The ones I have tested up till now is the wrcx, TNT and SNE 3 ones. Try what I said in my previous post, that might also work for you. What error did you get by the way, a 620 errors that said it could not communicate with device?
the-equinoxe said:
The only difference now is that there is a ROM folder now
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yup, that is nice.
I tried and it didn't work at all. I tried 3 times already from the time I downloaded the rar and still no success.
First time I tried it I had Titanium 2 installed and it was a no go even though the IPL/SPL were 2.26.0001
Then I tried twice using the official T-Mobile rom with IPL/SPL 2.26.0001 and followed the directions provided to a t and no success...
I am going to try once more tonight since it is 3:25am and then im giving up for the night.
Oh and I am trying to flash faria's rom. Think that might have something to do with it?
dharvey4651 said:
I tried and it didn't work at all. I tried 3 times already from the time I downloaded the rar and still no success.
First time I tried it I had Titanium 2 installed and it was a no go even though the IPL/SPL were 2.26.0001
Then I tried twice using the official T-Mobile rom with IPL/SPL 2.26.0001 and followed the directions provided to a t and no success...
I am going to try once more tonight since it is 3:25am and then im giving up for the night.
Oh and I am trying to flash faria's rom. Think that might have something to do with it?
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Can you give us more detail to where you get the error and what it is? Also did you flash origenal rom with softspl or bootloader? Oh and if your device asks for permission to load the dll files it wont work.
the-equinoxe said:
4rd G4 safe means no IPL/SPL (Extended ROM hasn't been tested yet)
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I have a CID Locked G4 and I can flash using RUU any ExtendedRom
contact me
dharvey4651 said:
I tried and it didn't work at all. I tried 3 times already from the time I downloaded the rar and still no success.
First time I tried it I had Titanium 2 installed and it was a no go even though the IPL/SPL were 2.26.0001
Then I tried twice using the official T-Mobile rom with IPL/SPL 2.26.0001 and followed the directions provided to a t and no success...
I am going to try once more tonight since it is 3:25am and then im giving up for the night.
Oh and I am trying to flash faria's rom. Think that might have something to do with it?
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Contact me via msn at [email protected] I will try me best to help u, but eventually EquinoXe is the master here.
saa044 said:
Can you give us more detail to where you get the error and what it is? Also did you flash origenal rom with softspl or bootloader? Oh and if your device asks for permission to load the dll files it wont work.
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Here is exactly what my device is doing:
I flash back to the official T-Mobile WM5 rom for the 2.26.0001 IPL/SPL adn then let customization finish and then try to softSpl but with no success. On my MDA, it asks me to confirm something and the screen never turns white like it is supposed to do.
I have tried this several ways and on 2 different roms.
I have tried flashing back to T-Mobile official but skip customization 2 times and use softSpl to flash faria's rom and it failed. I tried once after waiting untill customization is complete and installing faria's rom and it failed once again.
I also tried installing cert_SPCS.cab and installing enablerapi.cab prior to running softSpl 2 different times, once before customization and once after customization. both times failed. this time I was using Black Diamond 2.0 instead of faria's rom to see if it was just the rom.
Not once did I ever get the white screen and not once did it flash successfully using this method.(At least not for me)
I have been reading all across the forums how to CID unlock, upgrade etc. However, I am not able to find the ways to do seeminly essential homework before trying to upgrade. These for me are:-
* Finding a way to completely backup all the stuff from original tytn. Like ROM, SPL, IPL, Radio, CIDlock etc. I feel that this is important as if ever I feel like going to the tried old one I should be able to and to preserve the warranty also. Also, the method to roll back if needed. This should be covering re CID locking the phone etc.
It makes sense to create a way to bring the phone to its completlely original shape if we need it
Thanks
Alber
alber786 said:
I have been reading all across the forums how to CID unlock, upgrade etc. However, I am not able to find the ways to do seeminly essential homework before trying to upgrade. These for me are:-
* Finding a way to completely backup all the stuff from original tytn. Like ROM, SPL, IPL, Radio, CIDlock etc. I feel that this is important as if ever I feel like going to the tried old one I should be able to and to preserve the warranty also. Also, the method to roll back if needed. This should be covering re CID locking the phone etc.
It makes sense to create a way to bring the phone to its completlely original shape if we need it
Thanks
Alber
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You do not need to back up your spl, ipl, etc. because if you need to roll back you can just reflash them on, and they can be found around here and in the wiki.
You cannot un-CIDunlock, but if you use hardspl v7 it will "trick" your phone into thinking it is (when in reality it isnt) so that you do not have to actually unlock it. If you ever need to send it in you can just flash the old spl over it.
mcorrie1121 said:
You do not need to back up your spl, ipl, etc. because if you need to roll back you can just reflash them on, and they can be found around here and in the wiki.
You cannot un-CIDunlock, but if you use hardspl v7 it will "trick" your phone into thinking it is (when in reality it isnt) so that you do not have to actually unlock it. If you ever need to send it in you can just flash the old spl over it.
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So you mean that hardspl doesnt CID unlock it? But isnt there really a way to extract the original components and then put them back again ?
thanks
Alber
alber786 said:
So you mean that hardspl doesnt CID unlock it? But isnt there really a way to extract the original components and then put them back again ?
thanks
Alber
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HardSPL does not CID unlock. pof's Free Unlocker (a sticky thread) does the SIM and CID unlocking. HardSPL is a new set of bootloaders allowing upgrade utilities to access and read/write to the phone. The most important aspect of this (besides bypassing the CID check) is the security - it has some overwrite protection built in to prevent you from accidentally corrupting the bootloader area, rendering your phone a brick. HardSPL is a safety measure.
If you check THE WIKI here on xda for the Hermes, you will find some stuff on extracting. It is most probable that it will be FAR easier to find new versions of everything you have, rather than trying to back up and restore. The wiki contains MANY shipped ROMs to allow you to restore back to basically the original condition. LOOK HERE for MW5 shipped ROMs and LOOK HERE for WM6 shipped ROMs.
todd_jg said:
HardSPL does not CID unlock. pof's Free Unlocker (a sticky thread) does the SIM and CID unlocking. HardSPL is a new set of bootloaders allowing upgrade utilities to access and read/write to the phone. The most important aspect of this (besides bypassing the CID check) is the security - it has some overwrite protection built in to prevent you from accidentally corrupting the bootloader area, rendering your phone a brick. HardSPL is a safety measure.
If you check THE WIKI here on xda for the Hermes, you will find some stuff on extracting. It is most probable that it will be FAR easier to find new versions of everything you have, rather than trying to back up and restore. The wiki contains MANY shipped ROMs to allow you to restore back to basically the original condition. LOOK HERE for MW5 shipped ROMs and LOOK HERE for WM6 shipped ROMs.
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what about the radio upgrade
the htc108 thing
its confusing
on pof's sticky it says to downgrade the radio if u have the htc 108..
but on the radio upgrade sticky, it says u can upgrade any phone[hermes] using custom ruu..
todd_jg said:
HardSPL does not CID unlock. pof's Free Unlocker (a sticky thread) does the SIM and CID unlocking. HardSPL is a new set of bootloaders allowing upgrade utilities to access and read/write to the phone. The most important aspect of this (besides bypassing the CID check) is the security - it has some overwrite protection built in to prevent you from accidentally corrupting the bootloader area, rendering your phone a brick. HardSPL is a safety measure.
If you check THE WIKI here on xda for the Hermes, you will find some stuff on extracting. It is most probable that it will be FAR easier to find new versions of everything you have, rather than trying to back up and restore. The wiki contains MANY shipped ROMs to allow you to restore back to basically the original condition. LOOK HERE for MW5 shipped ROMs and LOOK HERE for WM6 shipped ROMs.
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Thanks a lot for the reply, I appreciate the time you spent in expaining this to me and providing these links.
I was wondering if HARDSPL is like shelltool where it will only allow upgrade or flashing of OS part. So, once I use the HARDSPL and flash say HTC official WM6 release or Dopod WM6, will I be ableto to get the bundled radio and SPL and IPL upgrades from these ROMS? and if yes then will HARDSPL get replaced by these SPLs and IPLs built into the ROMS? One more thing, will an upgrade like that can brick the phone as if I rum the official ROM it will try to upgrade the SPL and IPL (I am not sure).
What is the preferred way of upgrading ? unlocking CID by the tool or HARDSPL ?
I have read somewhere that lockwiz tool used for Wizard can save CID also and some tool and put it back also but I dont know how and if the same tool can do it for hermes?
Regards,
Alber
alber786 said:
Thanks a lot for the reply, I appreciate the time you spent in expaining this to me and providing these links.
I was wondering if HARDSPL is like shelltool where it will only allow upgrade or flashing of OS part. So, once I use the HARDSPL and flash say HTC official WM6 release or Dopod WM6, will I be ableto to get the bundled radio and SPL and IPL upgrades from these ROMS? and if yes then will HARDSPL get replaced by these SPLs and IPLs built into the ROMS? One more thing, will an upgrade like that can brick the phone as if I rum the official ROM it will try to upgrade the SPL and IPL (I am not sure).
What is the preferred way of upgrading ? unlocking CID by the tool or HARDSPL ?
I have read somewhere that lockwiz tool used for Wizard can save CID also and some tool and put it back also but I dont know how and if the same tool can do it for hermes?
Regards,
Alber
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Most cooked roms are os only, but a few have a radio, etc. included. If its os only, flashing will only change the os. You can separately flash radio.
Hardspl is the best because its reversible. Well thats not the best word to describe it....id say because its not permanent. But u know what i mean
alber786 said:
Thanks a lot for the reply, I appreciate the time you spent in expaining this to me and providing these links.
I was wondering if HARDSPL is like shelltool where it will only allow upgrade or flashing of OS part. So, once I use the HARDSPL and flash say HTC official WM6 release or Dopod WM6, will I be ableto to get the bundled radio and SPL and IPL upgrades from these ROMS? and if yes then will HARDSPL get replaced by these SPLs and IPLs built into the ROMS? One more thing, will an upgrade like that can brick the phone as if I rum the official ROM it will try to upgrade the SPL and IPL (I am not sure).
What is the preferred way of upgrading ? unlocking CID by the tool or HARDSPL ?
I have read somewhere that lockwiz tool used for Wizard can save CID also and some tool and put it back also but I dont know how and if the same tool can do it for hermes?
Regards,
Alber
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Mcorrie1121 is right. I will add a couple of things.
1. HardSPL is not *necessary* for flashing anything, it only makes it safer and allows you to flash ROMs with CIDs that do not match your device without CID unlocking. Your ROM is basically a few parts - OS, Radio, IPL, SPL, ExtROM, MainSplash and SubSplash. The HardSPL will replace the SPL only. Most non-carrier ROM releases are OS only. Most carrier ROMs (as you pointed out) have ALL of these things. As Mcorrie1121 pointed out, you can easily find a radio - check the wiki, search, etc.
2. Once you have upgraded to a cooked ROM (and HardSPL), you will still be able to upgrade to a Shipped Official ROM. You may need to "unpack" it and use the CustomRUU instead of the shipped updater. That is OK though.
3. HardSPL will not allow overwriting of the IPL/SPL except by another HardSPL (see mrvanx.org downgrade guides). You will not have a problem. It will keep your bootloader zone safe.
4. I don't think there is a preferred way. Some people unlock CID, others do not. There is no reason to *not* unlock it, unless you plan to send it back - and I have never heard of someone getting service rejected for this reason. Wring ROM, yes. CID unlocked, no. That said, maybe try without CID unlocking first and then if you find you need to do it for some reason, then do it. You really do not have to do it, since the Custom Updater bypasses the CID check anyway.
5. Regarding the 0108 Radio BL issue, don't worry much about that - it is an old problem. Just don't go below whatever version you have now.
todd_jg said:
Mcorrie1121 is right. I will add a couple of things.
1. HardSPL is not *necessary* for flashing anything, it only makes it safer and allows you to flash ROMs with CIDs that do not match your device without CID unlocking. Your ROM is basically a few parts - OS, Radio, IPL, SPL, ExtROM, MainSplash and SubSplash. The HardSPL will replace the SPL only. Most non-carrier ROM releases are OS only. Most carrier ROMs (as you pointed out) have ALL of these things. As Mcorrie1121 pointed out, you can easily find a radio - check the wiki, search, etc.
2. Once you have upgraded to a cooked ROM (and HardSPL), you will still be able to upgrade to a Shipped Official ROM. You may need to "unpack" it and use the CustomRUU instead of the shipped updater. That is OK though.
3. HardSPL will not allow overwriting of the IPL/SPL except by another HardSPL (see mrvanx.org downgrade guides). You will not have a problem. It will keep your bootloader zone safe.
4. I don't think there is a preferred way. Some people unlock CID, others do not. There is no reason to *not* unlock it, unless you plan to send it back - and I have never heard of someone getting service rejected for this reason. Wring ROM, yes. CID unlocked, no. That said, maybe try without CID unlocking first and then if you find you need to do it for some reason, then do it. You really do not have to do it, since the Custom Updater bypasses the CID check anyway.
5. Regarding the 0108 Radio BL issue, don't worry much about that - it is an old problem. Just don't go below whatever version you have now.
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Thanks, I appreciate your help. Please tell me if I can put back WM5 back on it after upgrading.
Regards,
Alber
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Mcorrie1121 is right. I will add a couple of things.
1. HardSPL is not *necessary* for flashing anything, it only makes it safer and allows you to flash ROMs with CIDs that do not match your device without CID unlocking. Your ROM is basically a few parts - OS, Radio, IPL, SPL, ExtROM, MainSplash and SubSplash. The HardSPL will replace the SPL only. Most non-carrier ROM releases are OS only. Most carrier ROMs (as you pointed out) have ALL of these things. As Mcorrie1121 pointed out, you can easily find a radio - check the wiki, search, etc.
2. Once you have upgraded to a cooked ROM (and HardSPL), you will still be able to upgrade to a Shipped Official ROM. You may need to "unpack" it and use the CustomRUU instead of the shipped updater. That is OK though.
3. HardSPL will not allow overwriting of the IPL/SPL except by another HardSPL (see mrvanx.org downgrade guides). You will not have a problem. It will keep your bootloader zone safe.
4. I don't think there is a preferred way. Some people unlock CID, others do not. There is no reason to *not* unlock it, unless you plan to send it back - and I have never heard of someone getting service rejected for this reason. Wring ROM, yes. CID unlocked, no. That said, maybe try without CID unlocking first and then if you find you need to do it for some reason, then do it. You really do not have to do it, since the Custom Updater bypasses the CID check anyway.
5. Regarding the 0108 Radio BL issue, don't worry much about that - it is an old problem. Just don't go below whatever version you have now.
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Dear, please help me with one thing-I am terribly confused about the procedure to upgrade my JASJAM to WM6. I understand that one way is to CIS unlock it and install on it the official and dopod releases of WM6. I wanted to know how can I do the same using the HARDspl. I know that I can install the HARDSPL but after that what ??? Can I then run the offcial RUU from HTC or Dopod or I am supposed to do it some other way as I am afraid that it may contain the SPL and IPL and can break by phone OR I have to use some customRUU (I dont know) OR I am supposed to extract the OS from these official releases (I dont know how) OR ..
Can you please clear these confusion??
I have:-
* I-Mate JASJAM, CID locked i suppose as when I run official HTC or dopod it says this update utility is not for this
*I really wanted to save my devices complete state and a way to revert it to the way it was like SPL, IPL, OS, Radio, CID lock etc.
PLS pls help
Regards,
Alber
alber786 said:
Dear, please help me with one thing-I am terribly confused about the procedure to upgrade my JASJAM to WM6. I understand that one way is to CIS unlock it and install on it the official and dopod releases of WM6. I wanted to know how can I do the same using the HARDspl. I know that I can install the HARDSPL but after that what ??? Can I then run the offcial RUU from HTC or Dopod or I am supposed to do it some other way as I am afraid that it may contain the SPL and IPL and can break by phone OR I have to use some customRUU (I dont know) OR I am supposed to extract the OS from these official releases (I dont know how) OR ..
Can you please clear these confusion??
I have:-
* I-Mate JASJAM, CID locked i suppose as when I run official HTC or dopod it says this update utility is not for this
*I really wanted to save my devices complete state and a way to revert it to the way it was like SPL, IPL, OS, Radio, CID lock etc.
PLS pls help
Regards,
Alber
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CLICK THIS LINK
There are upgrade guides there and guides to put it back the way it was (OS, Radio, IPL, SPL, MainSplash and SubSplash) - it is all covered.
The upgrade guides will get you through the upgrade process. The only thing you need to do after that to use an official upgrade is to unrar (using winrar or something) the executable file and take the nbh and us it with the CustomRUU, which can be found HERE .
Hello friends,
I have some question, My Rom was TNT4 because of more hanging my device I installed TNT 5, but this Rom is hanged my device more than TNT4.
I want to use Maxniper Roms. so i have some question:
1- Can I install new WM6 or WM6.1 or WM7 Roms to my PPC witouht Hard SPL?
2- WHat is Hard SPl? is it needed for new ROMs or for all WM6 roms such as TNT4 or TNT5 or Aserg AKU3.13(WM5) ?
3- Can i come back to past SPL?
my device is I-mate Jamin
Thanks
For easy explanation about hardSPL, check THIS thread.
For further info, check THIS thread.
duato said:
For easy explanation about hardSPL, check THIS thread.
For further info, check THIS thread.
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Dear Friend,
I read all posts about HardSPL
But the question is:
What's the differ between Old Method and New Method(Hard SPL)?
If I install PDIViet_Temp rom first and Install new WM6 or WM6.1 or 7 after it hanging in boot screen and freezing is apperar and IF i use HardSPL method the problems not occur?
Thanks
WHy is needed ?
* More STORAGE area ! the smaller the os.nb the larger your storage!
I encourage all of you who haven't tried this method yet, to try this method. Specially if your favorite rom is relatively a clean rom and consequently has small os.nb. If you want to know how much extra storage you will get by using this method subtract the size of the os.nb (in kb) from 58,368. the difference will be the amount of storage you will gain when you try this new method.
* Faster and safer Rom Upgrade.. If you do install PDAVIET first and overwrite its Data later. It takes more time.
Without HARDSPL. Big Storage mode can't be use.
hma4 has wrote it. Why no one read it??
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=350033
You can always revert your spl by flashing an operator ROM such as teh Orange WM5 ROM available on the FTP server.
Or O2 ROM Germany.
Info on O2 Germany Website HERE
Download XDA neo original ROM.Version 215447 2154140 021921 (ca. 50 MB)
HERE
or XDA neo RACE Edition.Version 215448 2154141 021921 (ca. 51 MB)
HERE
Different between them?
Nothings different, just first and second SPLASH Screen. And Price Different for XDA Neo Race Edition.
Race Edition is more expensive.
What's the differ between Old Method and New Method(Hard SPL)?
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Old method needs to downgrade before you can upgrade. It needs batch files as well as ROM files etc.
If I install PDIViet_Temp rom first and Install new WM6 or WM6.1 or 7 after it hanging in boot screen and freezing is apperar and IF i use HardSPL method the problems not occur?
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This is because HardSPL prevents certain checks being performed, so that the ROM can boot without being an official ROM. Without it, the SPL part of the loading mechanism refuses to boot the OS and instead reverts to bootloader.
The official way to upgrade your Prophet is to use the Rom Update Utility (RUU) provided by your vendor. The RUU is very convinient; it has all the OS files packed together in one archive, so nothing can be misplaced and it is executed just by connecting your device to your PC, no preparation needed. This RUU has the nasty habit the check your Prophet by using the SPL. If your device isn't the same brand (like Q-tek, Dopod, O2, XDA, etc, etc,) it just refuses to work. Because of this it was practical unpossible to post a universal upgrade overhere.
Some genius people developped a way to replace the OS through the "backdoor". With the help of this set of hacking tools it became possible to upgrade your Prophet with a universal, homemade ROM. However, because of the complexity of this method (now refered to as the "Old Method") it was very funurable to errors an needed a lot of preparation. Also the OS-file cannot be combined in one single archive as with the RUU. The cange of loosing or misplacing one is there.
So the challenge became to find a way to use the RUU without the check. So other genius people find out a way to manipulate the SPL so the RUU will bypass its check and will work as if it was released by an offical vendor.
This SPL manipulation can be done for one time use only use SoftSPL (JumpSPL), the original SPL will stay resident but is bypassed prior to running the RUU. If you flash a lot this method is time consuming, but the advantage is that it won't interfere with your device (except upgrading the OS ofcourse...)
An other way is to use HardSPL. This will replace your SPL with a manipulated version wich will stay resident until you install another SPL. This way the first flash-cycle will be a bit complicated but the following atempt will be as easy as connecting your device to a non-Vista PC and run the provided RUU.
The downsite of this successtory is that it installing the HardSPL seems to be a tricky procedure where a lot of people obvious are making a lot of mistakes.