@all the coders
The community has people with very good coding skills (we know them and they know them each-other), so why you(we) do not concentrate your(our) skills and work on one big open-source app. The synergetic (network) effects would make it possible to build and later host a stable and all included community-based-open-source-group-coded app!
We have so many pseudo-proprietary based tools:
ROM-Kitchen, Hermes ROM Koch, nbhextract, et cetera...
Is think the best would be, to set up something like an open-source-project. - we can host the codesnippets on a subversion or cvs directory or something else to manage the distributed progress.
The efforts would be much bigger and come much faster, that should be clear for everybody.
So please let me know and i will set up such a directory!
Maybe pof can set up a poll for this - so we can get a democracy-based decision!
AFAIK this would be the first joined forces XDA-Developers development and i think it is realy the time for it!
And what are you waiting for ? Start development of this one big open-source app by yourself right now. And others would join if they find it interesting.
Des said:
And what are you waiting for ? Start development of this one big open-source app by yourself right now. And others would join if they find it interesting.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I created a svn-repository,
please PM me with your email-adress to send you the account information!
I've meant start development not creating svn res
Des said:
I've meant start development not creating svn res
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I know but at first my programming skills are not as good as your skills are and at second why i should start a new app since we have a lot of lines already?
but as far as is see you won´t join, will you?
apokryphus said:
why i should start
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
why others should ?
but as far as is see you won´t join, will you?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
join to what ?
Des said:
why others should ?
join to what ?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Others started already, so they just have to put their code in there and others can modify it.
Join the svn...
BTW: You know what a svn is, don´t you?
apokryphus said:
they just have to put their code in there and others can modify it.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
There is sourceforge for it. And there was cvs rep on xda-developers. If you going to host another - that's good. But how it relates to starting of development of "a stable and all included community-based-open-source-group-coded app" ?
Join the svn...
BTW: You know what a svn is, don´t you?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
svn is in the first place code hosted there. No code == nothing to join.
Well, e.g. dutty could host his code in there, if he wants; olipro could host his code in there, if he wants; like all the others.
that would be good start.
Then merge the code and bring up new features... like guis (i would do that e.g.)
And yes, i can not host any code because i did not wrote something and i do not want to decompile the versions we have, because of ip, the developer should agree with it first.
besides this is just an idea, but reading your posts it seems this idea is not very welcome.
i wrote something like this to a mod here 2 weeks ago, did not got an answer, so at all i think it could really be a bad idea - however maybe some others will say somthing about it.
apokryphus said:
besides this is just an idea, but reading your posts it seems this idea is not very welcome.
i wrote something like this to a mod here 2 weeks ago, did not got an answer, so at all i think it could really be a bad idea - however maybe some others will say somthing about it.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I personally think it's a great idea! It's just too bad I'm not a developer; I wish I could help!
But yes, I believe that if everyone here worked together on a project, the results could be wonderful. I guess that doesn't mean much since I don't have the skills needed to contribute, but it still sounds ideal.
Des I Think Apokryphus Is Main Aim Is An Open Source ROM Kitchen.
With The Issue That ahok_hk Had With Olipro About Him Releasing A Ported Version Of His Software, I Think He Sees The Coders Working Against Each Other (Or At Least Being Rivals). And Wants Everyone To Play Nice To Create One Kitchen That Is Fast And Simple. Which Means That It Has To Be Open Source So Everyone Can Make Reccomendations On How To Update The Software.
Cheers
mousey_ said:
Des I Think Apokryphus Is Main Aim Is An Open Source ROM Kitchen.
With The Issue That ahok_hk Had With Olipro About Him Releasing A Ported Version Of His Software, I Think He Sees The Coders Working Against Each Other (Or At Least Being Rivals). And Wants Everyone To Play Nice To Create One Kitchen That Is Fast And Simple. Which Means That It Has To Be Open Source So Everyone Can Make Reccomendations On How To Update The Software.
Cheers
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Exactly, but not only for recommendation also for modifying the software, thats the main goal - joined people can add their own lines of code to provide the stability or usability for instance.
i hope i did not got you wrong, what means that i think you meant with update not modifying. but in case of that is the meaning i totaly agree with your opinion.
sorry but i am not a native speaker and sometimes i have got some problem with the meaning of the translations.
see quine, in word and object, chapter 2 about the indeterminacy of translation.
mousey_ said:
Des I Think Apokryphus Is Main Aim Is An Open Source ROM Kitchen.
With The Issue That ahok_hk Had With Olipro About Him Releasing A Ported Version Of His Software, I Think He Sees The Coders Working Against Each Other (Or At Least Being Rivals). And Wants Everyone To Play Nice To Create One Kitchen That Is Fast And Simple. Which Means That It Has To Be Open Source So Everyone Can Make Reccomendations On How To Update The Software.
Cheers
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I must stress that everyone has their rights for their own intellectual property because the have created them using many many hours of effort. And I was not saying that I am not going to release the code. But just not right now coz it is still in beta and many fixes/function will be added. And there is not such "The Coders Working Against Each Other" in my mine at all. Coders should "respect" each other.
For the case of Olipro, he not only stole and released the code "without my prior agreement", but still releasing it after I suggested him to just put those code in his kitchen.
On the other hand, dutty is good. Why? because he also wanted to use the souce code of aChef, and he did ask me before he wants to put it in his kitchen.
BTW, originally I have successfully added many new functions to aChef that no one has done/thought before, but I see no point to release them or to continue my effort now.
Anyway every one has their own thoughts about intellectual proterty. And I am not going to discuss here anymore. Good luck and Good bye to all.
it's a port... it's not your code, you didn't license your code, and you did not say anywhere that anyone was forbidden from creating a derivative work, I made it to benefit the community, if you want to let ego get in the way, that's your problem buddy, not mine.
while I reconize the merrits of open source, I think people should respect (an appreciate) the hard work that people have done. The people in this forum have made some wonderful software, provided it to us free of charge. If they want to put their hard work out there in an open source form, that's great, if not, that's also great - it should be their choice with no pressure.) I've not even seen anybody complain about their software being incorperated into other programs - they've just asked that you respect their IP which in my opinion is perfectly fair.
If you'd like something put into opensource, write a nice letter suggesting it with no pressure, and then leave it to the developer. If they want to they will, if not, simply thank them for their hard work an appreciate the product they've provided for you. If you push people who don't want to release it for whatever their reason, you'll alienate them and they'll cease development which would be a detrament to everybody!
<steps down off soapbox>Sorry for my pointless ramblings - please, continue ignoring me!
ahlok_hk said:
BTW, originally I have successfully added many new functions to aChef that no one has done/thought before, but I see no point to release them or to continue my effort now.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
*cough* VAPOURWARE *cough*
we all appreciate your effort including me... but if diddums wants to throw a tantrum the feel free
Related
a port of aChef to C#.
well... I decided to make a port of aChef today to C# and I've done it... the speed improvement (especially when re-building the OS.nb) is superb so I figured it's definitely worth releasing; credit of course goes to Ahlok_hk of course for creating the Java applet in the first place.
other than the speed... there is no real benefit to using this over the original aChef... it does not do anything special or new, although over the weekend I will be porting this code into my ROM Kitchen pending a complete re-hash of the design and layout
Special Note:
at the request of ahlok_hk, he has asked that I not release it... therefore I have encrypted the zip folder; if you wish to use this then feel free to contact me for the file password, but please only do so if you intend to use this for internal developmental purposes.
the Java version of this application will more than suffice for general ROM Cooking.
Revised Version
New version noticeably faster; array conversions from unsigned to signed are gone... application is now much faster! (AND IT ACTUALLY WORKS!)
fixed, and released.
as an additional point; should ahlok_hk ever decide to release his source code, I will also release the source to this.
hi there... an other rom cooking kitchen is released.... "romkoch" ....
futureshock said:
hi there... an other rom cooking kitchen is released.... "romkoch" ....
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I know... I was testing it.
So, why would ahlok_hk be opposed to this release? Just curious...
Me too, especially that you can disassemble it so easily if you really wanna get the internals.
richy240 said:
So, why would ahlok_hk be opposed to this release? Just curious...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Because this is a clone copy of aChef and it is release without my prior agreement.
Totally not necessary as he could just put the code into his kitchen but not to release just another aChef.
ahlok_hk said:
Because this is a clone copy of aChef and it is release without my prior agreement.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
As I said, I passworded it, and nobody's asked me for the password yet
I've created it for the common good, I have no interest in credit whatsoever, so if you'd like me to attribute it soley to you, I'd be more than happy to; the purpose is to collaborate and work together to improve efficiency, but of course I do respect your wishes whatever they might be... I just hope that maybe you'll see that this is a good, not bad thing
piopawlu said:
Me too, especially that you can disassemble it so easily if you really wanna get the internals.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You could steal something when no one see you. But it doesn't mean you should do that.
Olipro said:
As I said, I passworded it, and nobody's asked me for the password yet
I've created it for the common good, I have no interest in credit whatsoever, so if you'd like me to attribute it soley to you, I'd be more than happy to; the purpose is to collaborate and work together to improve efficiency, but of course I do respect your wishes whatever they might be... I just hope that maybe you'll see that this is a good, not bad thing
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I undestand your point. Anyway thx for password protect it.
ahlok_hk said:
piopawlu said:
Me too, especially that you can disassemble it so easily if you really wanna get the internals.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You could steal something when no one see you. But it doesn't mean you should do that.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Isn't it pretty much what reverse engineering is about? I am not saying it's good, but in some way this is what is being done all over here.
Personally I would like to have such a tool written in pure C, so that I don't have to download 20MB or more JVM even though it might seem more portable now.
piopawlu said:
Personally I would like to have such a tool written in pure C
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
do it yourself: this "tool" would be about several tens of code strings. Theory behind it described here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1143517#post1143517 .
...more portable...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
pure C is more portable than java
Finally fixed the tool in its entirety; you know it was a single typo that has kept me going for ages wondering what the hell was wrong with it... either way, new version will be uploaded shortly.
ahlok_hk said:
You could steal something when no one see you. But it doesn't mean you should do that.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
that is very true... but if you did that, they would no longer have what you stole you would have it and they wouldn't... clearly this is not the case with software.
Des said:
pure C is more portable than java
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That's why I said "it might seem more portable now" Anyway, right now I see no point rewriting this as I got JDK/JRE installed for other purposes. No more about it cuz this's going a bit off the topic.
ahlok_hk said:
You could steal something when no one see you. But it doesn't mean you should do that.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I have decompiled your software. It does not work (!) for the
athena image, because of looking at +0x208 for the MSFLSH50 magic
instead of +0x200. Is this behaviour intentional ?
piopawlu said:
Anyway, right now I see no point rewriting this as I got JDK/JRE installed for other purposes.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
This program should be rewritten in C and released with the source code, so everybody will benefit from a working program.
Guys, i'm really surprised by the childish things like zipping
with password and not releasing the source freely
I don't know what the hell you're talking about; it's an unprotected JAR file; port it, or learn to know what's going on
cr2 said:
I have decompiled your software. It does not work (!) for the
athena image, because of looking at +0x208 for the MSFLSH50 magic
instead of +0x200. Is this behaviour intentional ?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It seems the tool you're talking about is specific to the Hermes format (which has 8 additional bytes every 512 bytes).
Have a look at the ImgfsTools (originally by mamaich, enhanced version by me) available here. They should do all aChef/aWaiter can do (as far as I understood aChef), but are not specific to Hermes images.
Oh, and the source code for these tools is available from me, just ask if you want it.
Cheers
Daniel
tadzio said:
Have a look at the ImgfsTools (originally by mamaich, enhanced version by me) available here. They should do all aChef/aWaiter can do (as far as I understood aChef), but are not specific to Hermes images.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The imgfstools can't load the decompression dll in wine for some reason (i don't have a computer with windows). I could have used rdmsflsh.pl, but it also needs
the decompression dll. The XPR compression from this dll seems to be irrelevant, and LZX is implemented in libmspack (cabextract).
Or course i can port the lzx decompressor code from libmspack,
but it's a pity that no ready solution already exists.
The java code may have been ok, but it does not work too.
After searching through the changelogs of many of Team Whiskey's and Master's Axura roms, I have noticed that many of the changelog features are framework changes and new skins on the stock rom. That being said, I am not flaming anyone as I do appreciate their work but are many devs for the Vibrant skinners or true coders such as Barack, Eugene, etc?
Again, THIS IS NOT A POST TO START FLAMING PEOPLE!
I'm going to leave this open for the time being with the understanding that the thread may be closed by the designated Moderator for this forum the moment the thread goes off-topic.
I'm about as "true developer" as you can get. I've written software in machine language and entered it in hex with a 16-key pad. I've written embedded systems. I've written software that was good enough that MS bought the company. I've written drivers. I've run dev shops with 400 employees. I have systems in production that process more than $150 billion worth of annual global transactions. There isn't a lot in the software world that I haven't tried my hand at.
And *I* don't have the time to screw around with building something like Nero v3. But I flashed it the other day and it rocked the tits off my previously-stock-Eclair phone, and I was pretty satisfied with the whole thing, and it never once occurred to me to wonder whether the TW guys were "real" developers or not.
In short: who cares? I willing to bet I can lay claim to the title "developer" on par with the hardest of the hardcore coders here, and I'm here to tell you if it bothers you that they're calling themselves developers because you suspect they may not size up to your standards, you should probably just move along -- or keep it to yourself.
Maybe a swift kick in the balls would've been kinder.....a little over the line I think. I really don't care who it is, but anyone who takes the time to change framwork or "reskin" a ROM has done more than my fat little fingers can do. They may not all be as great as Team Whiskey or Eugene, but they still develop something, so in short, sure they are all developers. As long as someone gives credit where due, and asked permission where necessary, then the laws of the universe are still being followed......
XPLANE9 said:
After searching through the changelogs of many of Team Whiskey's and Master's Axura roms, I have noticed that many of the changelog features are framework changes and new skins on the stock rom. That being said, I am not flaming anyone as I do appreciate their work but are many devs for the Vibrant skinners or true coders such as Barack, Eugene, etc?
Again, THIS IS NOT A POST TO START FLAMING PEOPLE!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I think it is a fair enough question to post... but I ask you, what is it that you hope to answer or establish? Guidelines to correct nomenclature? E-peen? I just don't quite get the nature of your interrogatory...
hilaireg said:
I'm going to leave this open for the time being with the understanding that the thread may be closed by the designated Moderator for this forum the moment the thread goes off-topic.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Kudos to you... that is exactly why a functioning MOD committee is a great thing for XDA. I applaud your commitment to open discourse.
MV10 said:
I'm about as "true developer" as you can get. I've written software in machine language and entered it in hex with a 16-key pad. I've written embedded systems. I've written software that was good enough that MS bought the company. I've written drivers. I've run dev shops with 400 employees. I have systems in production that process more than $150 billion worth of annual global transactions. There isn't a lot in the software world that I haven't tried my hand at.
And *I* don't have the time to screw around with building something like Nero v3. But I flashed it the other day and it rocked the tits off my previously-stock-Eclair phone, and I was pretty satisfied with the whole thing, and it never once occurred to me to wonder whether the TW guys were "real" developers or not.
In short: who cares? I willing to bet I can lay claim to the title "developer" on par with the hardest of the hardcore coders here, and I'm here to tell you if it bothers you that they're calling themselves developers because you suspect they may not size up to your standards, you should probably just move along -- or keep it to yourself.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Listing your credentials may (and I stress may) have been a bit over the top... but point well taken nonetheless.
gtiryan said:
Maybe a swift kick in the balls would've been kinder.....a little over the line I think. I really don't care who it is, but anyone who takes the time to change framwork or "reskin" a ROM has done more than my fat little fingers can do. They may not all be as great as Team Whiskey or Eugene, but they still develop something, so in short, sure they are all developers. As long as someone gives credit where due, and asked permission where necessary, then the laws of the universe are still being followed......
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Also very fair point...
XPLANE9 said:
After searching through the changelogs of many of Team Whiskey's and Master's Axura roms, I have noticed that many of the changelog features are framework changes and new skins on the stock rom. That being said, I am not flaming anyone as I do appreciate their work but are many devs for the Vibrant skinners or true coders such as Barack, Eugene, etc?
Again, THIS IS NOT A POST TO START FLAMING PEOPLE!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Soo, you call two set of dev teams just skinners.. and one team coders, yet expect not to start a flame war?
I also don't know how you get "many of master's axura roms" there is only ONE axura rom.. And if you look at features, you could tell that it is not just a "Skin" you could also tell that in the change-logs if you looked past "Just framework mods" framework mods aren't just images btw.
If you honestly don't want to start a flame war, it is best not to post these types of threads.
I've considered this question myself and the answer I've come up with is, I don't care.
Whether they're truly writing new code or just reskinning or theming it's still more than I can do. They do it in their spare time and offer their work to us for free. So I guess my question to you is, what difference does it make?
Poser said:
Listing your credentials may (and I stress may) have been a bit over the top... but point well taken nonetheless.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I have a pretty strong suspicion that the OP is a developer and is trying to pull the "harder-core than thou" card, so it seemed appropriate at the time.
There is ALWAYS somebody better than you. If you're smart, you'll call those people "employees."
I agree with that I don't really care, as long as who ever it may be, don't start releasing garbage that bricks my phone, I'm content.
I don't run an empire of $888.000.656.99...gabillion dollars with 2 interlaced brains that can code the matrix's live wallpaper, but in my little, I'm able to flash a ROM or 2.
XPLANE9 said:
After searching through the changelogs of many of Team Whiskey's and Master's Axura roms, I have noticed that many of the changelog features are framework changes and new skins on the stock rom. That being said, I am not flaming anyone as I do appreciate their work but are many devs for the Vibrant skinners or true coders such as Barack, Eugene, etc?
Again, THIS IS NOT A POST TO START FLAMING PEOPLE!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
When you write something remotely as good as Axura or V3 then you can make these statements.
Until then you're just being an ignorant troll.
The op is a flame in itself, why is it still up?
willsnews said:
The op is a flame in itself, why is it still up?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
^^Have to agree personally.
Anyway, anyone who develops something is a developer (dur). This means themes, mods, guides, roms, etc.
As for the ignorant comment the OP made about changelogs, most "devs" don't take the time to list off every detail of the performance enhancements they made. Why? Because you wouldn't know what they're talking about if they did, and there's too many to list. If you're one of the few that could actually read and understand such a changelog, then you probably could be/are making your own roms anyway.
Yes some roms available on any phone's forum are more build around aesthetic changes, while others are geared towards efficiency, while others for raw power. That doesn't make one superior to another, but rather simply built for a different consumer.
MWBehr said:
^^Have to agree personally.
Anyway, anyone who develops something is a developer (dur). This means themes, mods, guides, roms, etc.
As for the ignorant comment the OP made about changelogs, most "devs" don't take the time to list off every detail of the performance enhancements they made. Why? Because you wouldn't know what they're talking about if they did, and there's too many to list. If you're one of the few that could actually read and understand such a changelog, then you probably could be/are making your own roms anyway.
Yes some roms available on any phone's forum are more build around aesthetic changes, while others are geared towards efficiency, while others for raw power. That doesn't make one superior to another, but rather simply built for a different consumer.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
i just made a do-do in the toilet, am i a developer?
jk lol
MWBehr said:
most "devs" don't take the time to list off every detail of the performance enhancements they made. Why? Because you wouldn't know what they're talking about if they did, and there's too many to list. If you're one of the few that could actually read and understand such a changelog, then you probably could be/are making your own roms anyway.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I have to agree with this. I remember on Obsidian V5 Sombionix listed in the change log in great detail what he changed including userscripts and kernel tweaks only to be bombarded with questions about what they meant/do. A lot of the users don't understand the technical aspects and just want something "cool." Devs already get blasted with a barrage of questions and really don't need to add more fuel to the fire so to speak. It seems the OP more or less called TW and Master "skinners." The above says otherwise regarding TW and as for Master just look at the layout of his latest "beast" not to mention the Sense port he got booting on our phones. I would definitely call this development, wouldn't you agree?
xriderx66 said:
i just made a do-do in the toilet, am i a developer?
jk lol
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I know you were only making a joke, but basically (using it as an anology of course) yes. Is a kid that picks up an instrument for the first time a musician? Yes. Is he good or does anyone care that he's a musician? Probably not (other than his parents). Should he share his work with the world? Again, only his parents should hear it.
The point isn't "are you or aren't you a developer" it's simply a mater of what we percieve as different levels in skill. This doesn't even mean that our perception is accurate, but we're entitled to our opinions. And if you think a developer should have kept his work to himself or herself, then don't download it, and all is right in the world.
So yes, if you develop crap, you're still a developer, just maybe shouldn't share your product with the world
Zip Developer, Cyanogen and his Merry men or somebody dropping pure source I can careless. They contribute more than half the downloaders and requesters wanting more.
I say let them do their Jobs and be greatful they are here. Use somebody elses work and give them credit as long as its an option. I like options
I am surprised that you missed that or maybe I missed it here
I dirtyflashed it over a CM13 and it seems to work
testing now
here are the roms/links
on german x820 forum its clear #1
http://download.mokeedev.com/?device=le_x2
dont forget its without gapps so flash add them when you like google stuff
Se didnt miss it but thanks anyway. That ROM was deleted from xda due to the fact that some users that dont do anything else but complaining, and attacking the dev. The dev from mokee hás informed that hes not posting anymore ROMs in xda. Nougat included
What is the dif btw release n nightlies
nosidefcp said:
Se didnt miss it but thanks anyway. That ROM was deleted from xda due to the fact that some users that dont do anything else but complaining, and attacking the dev. The dev from mokee hás informed that hes not posting anymore ROMs in xda. Nougat included
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hello. You forgot to tell the full truth. The case is the dev was asked to release sources and he refused.
Regards Filozof71
Sent from my Le X820 using Tapatalk
Filozof71 said:
Hello. You forgot to tell the full truth. The case is the dev was asked to release sourced and he denied.
Regards Filozof71
Sent from my Le X820 using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thats not true. He said he wasnt releasing the source in that day. Three por four days later he released here the source code
nosidefcp said:
Thats not true. He said he wasnt releasing the source in that day. Three por four days later he released here the source code
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Incorrect. People were asking for the Device Tree used to build Mokee, which wasn't and still hasn't been provided. XDA isn't a place for you to download roms, it's a developer community. Pretty sure the device tree would have been converted from one that was available (Probably OP3) and not sharing it is disrespectful to every developer who has worked on it previously.
https://github.com/MoKee/android_device_letv_le_x2 is empty.
mikeysteele said:
Incorrect. People were asking for the Device Tree used to build Mokee, which wasn't and still hasn't been provided. XDA isn't a place for you to download roms, it's a developer community. Pretty sure the device tree would have been converted from one that was available (Probably OP3) and not sharing it is disrespectful to every developer who has worked on it previously.
https://github.com/MoKee/android_device_letv_le_x2 is empty.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
which rule say MUST share device tree?you can ask leeco share official device tree too.TRY HARDER
ffboy2009 said:
which rule say MUST share device tree?you can ask leeco share official device tree too.TRY HARDER
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Who's talking about rules? This is a community and communities have standards. You're free to do whatever you like but expect people to be unhappy if you disrespect the community.
ffboy2009 said:
which rule say MUST share device tree?you can ask leeco share official device tree too.TRY HARDER
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
First of all: THANKS for your ROMs. Second: i would really consider publishing the device tree, because there might be a few others who would like to contribute.
Although the Max 2 is a rather "specific" smartphone, which - outside of India and China - nobody really considers buying.
ffboy2009 said:
which rule say MUST share device tree?you can ask leeco share official device tree too.TRY HARDER
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The Open Source rule and spirit. We share our knowledge and we don't hide it.
https://github.com/deadman96385/android_device_leeco_x2
https://github.com/AndroPlus-org/android_device_leeco_x2?files=1
I know is difficult to you to understand this. There must be a reason why you don't want to provide your sources.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3494247
ffboy doesn't own anybody anything. He releases his ROM's for free, he doesn't force you to use them. Many rom developers don't release their source code/device trees, one reason is that people could take there hard work getting everything to work and use to build their own ROM's and get donations from them without doing any hard work themselves. Even my grandma can build a ROM when eveyrthing is handed to her. One example is the very resepected developer arter97 who didn't release cyanogenmod device trees for s6 for a while when he was developing for s6. Get off ffboy's case, he is a developer and doesn't deserve this, if there was a downvote in xda I would downvote the haters. You've already been warned by the mods yet you still pour hate on to the dev.
Edit: I agree with ffboy we should continue petitioning LeEco for device trees.
@whymoo
I am not arter97, i don't care what he does and i don't accept donations.
ffboy released his rom under mokee s name who they aclame to be "open source". Also i except to see the whole source and not part of it.
If ffboy doesn't like this he could publice his rom to a hoster like "mega"
ffboy and not me already copied code and signed the same code as his own and don't gave proper credit.
We are a big community and we help each other. We share our knowledge and don't hide it. I and other people don't like to reinvend the wheel again. This is a waste of precius time who lot of us they don't have. Yes! we can contribute, merge bugs and maybe compile other roms and yes, ffboy must accept, that maybe me or others wanna use his device tree or some other code. BUT we don't forget to give credits.
Btw i don't be warned and i don't see a reason why should be.
It's CM or stock based?
ir work?
monleylord said:
@whymoo
I am not arter97, i don't care what he does and i don't accept donations.
ffboy released his rom under mokee s name who they aclame to be "open source". Also i except to see the whole source and not part of it.
If ffboy doesn't like this he could publice his rom to a hoster like "mega"
ffboy and not me already copied code and signed the same code as his own and don't gave proper credit.
We are a big community and we help each other. We share our knowledge and don't hide it. I and other people don't like to reinvend the wheel again. This is a waste of precius time who lot of us they don't have. Yes! we can contribute, merge bugs and maybe compile other roms and yes, ffboy must accept, that maybe me or others wanna use his device tree or some other code. BUT we don't forget to give credits.
Btw i don't be warned and i don't see a reason why should be.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
first i opensourced kernel soucre as GPL requirement,but device tree was not GPL and you do not have the right to force me do things i dont like.
2nd i know i made mistakes on kernel source for commit authorship brcause i am not good at git tools but i have already corrected them.
i dont care you like me and my rom or not
i have released all source of mi max on my github
the only reason i dont release max2 device tree is,
Some people here is just do nothing but PUSHING AND ATTACKING me because they want my device tree to build there roms to gain Respect and donations i think.they are so rude and ridiculous
when i said "No plan to release kernel source RECENTLY" and released a few days later,they don't care and start attacking and pushing
i also dont warned by forum moderatoer by not released device tree
So ban me out of this forum if you can
ffboy2009 said:
first i opensourced kernel soucre as GPL requirement,but device tree was not GPL and you do not have the right to force me do things i dont like.
2nd i know i made mistakes on kernel source for commit authorship brcause i am not good at git tools but i have already corrected them.
i dont care you like me and my rom or not
i have released all source of mi max on my github
the only reason i dont release max2 device tree is,
Some people here is just do nothing but PUSHING AND ATTACKING me because they want my device tree to build there roms to gain Respect and donations i think.they are so rude and ridiculous
when i said "No plan to release kernel source RECENTLY" and released a few days later,they don't care and start attacking and pushing
i also dont warned by forum moderatoer by not released device tree
So ban me out of this forum if you can
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I don't care if you like ne or not either. I gave you also a like. I don't care either to gain Respect or earn money through donations.
You are the only one here who try to gain respect or donations but your behavior shows me clearly that you are reacting like a little defiant child who felt driven into a corner.
I made a Pointment about you and you have to accept it.
monleylord said:
I don't care if you like ne or not either. I don't care either to gain Respect or earn money through donations. You are the only one here who try to gain respect or donations but your behavior shows me clearly that you are rect like a child. I made a Pointment about you and you have to accept it.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'd be interested in the device tree so I could play around building with some custom toolchains. All my phones run ROM's I've compiled myself but I've never shared them with anybody here as they aren't my work.
mikeysteele said:
I'd be interested in the device tree so I could play around building with some custom toolchains. All my phones run ROM's I've compiled myself but I've never shared them with anybody here as they aren't my work.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
This will become ridiculous be smart and open with everybody we talk about a phone don't forget this please
sdevaux said:
This will become ridiculous be smart and open with everybody we talk about a phone don't forget this please
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I think you misunderstand. Building ROMs with custom toolchains and then posting them here would be passing off the work of others as my own, which is not on. I'm not making any source code changes.
mikeysteele said:
I think you misunderstand. Building ROMs with custom toolchains and then posting them here would be passing off the work of others as my own, which is not on. I'm not making any source code changes.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I understand it's just that everyone should be open with others it would allow us to move forward the rom development for this model that's just my opinion
can someone tell me why the developers have 2.3.4 rom in development, with bugs and little support ??? when it is better to devote time to a single good and seriously attended !!!!
Sent from my Redmi 3S using XDA-Developers Legacy app
Same question. There are a few devs who would work on one build then abandon the project completely, and make another build of a different ROM.
Because most of that So called Development is just copy paste job. those guys don't actually develop anything by themselves. otherwise they could have fixed it, instead they wait for actual developers to fix it and just copy from them. :silly:
kraatus90 said:
Because most of that So called Development is just copy paste job. those guys don't actually develop anything by themselves. otherwise they could have fixed it, instead they wait for actual developers to fix it and just copy from them. :silly:
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
agreed
[email protected] said:
can someone tell me why the developers have 2.3.4 rom in development, with bugs and little support ??? when it is better to devote time to a single good and seriously attended !!!!
Sent from my Redmi 3S using XDA-Developers Legacy app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
kraatus90 said:
Because most of that So called Development is just copy paste job. those guys don't actually develop anything by themselves. otherwise they could have fixed it, instead they wait for actual developers to fix it and just copy from them. :silly:
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
1. You will know then answer when you try to compile one ROM (Not developing).
2. Compiling a ROM is not just a Copy & Paste work. If it's so... Do yourself.... (its just copy & paste nah..?)
So here is a answer. I'm also started Android Development just 2 weeks ago. And i compiled 4 different ROMs : Lineage, Candy, Slim, Glaze. I'm not doing it for you. But for me. I wanted to learn, no one can start from "Coding Everything from Scratch" especially legacy softwares like kernel and other things. So we start from compiling.... When we successfully compiled a ROM by facing and fixing many Errors. We move on to a new ROM, Coz New ROM will give new errors and we can learn to fix them. You may ask "Why you cant learn from Improving a rom...?" and my answer is "NO ONE IS GONNA TEACH ME HOW TO IMPROVE A ROM". Self learning needs lots of trial and error. So we building many ROMs. If you don't like that or you are a cry baby who cries for "XXXXX is not working" or "Poor XXXX". Just stick with STOCK ROM. XDA is for Learning and Not Only for SERVING YOU A BUG FREE, FULLY OPTIMIZED, FULLY FEATURED CUSTOM ROM for FREE.
Sorry.... if anything hurts anyone... I mean it.
dineshthangavel47 said:
1. You will know then answer when you try to compile one ROM (Not developing).
2. Compiling a ROM is not just a Copy & Paste work. If it's so... Do yourself.... (its just copy & paste nah..?)
So here is a answer. I'm also started Android Development just 2 weeks ago. And i compiled 4 different ROMs : Lineage, Candy, Slim, Glaze. I'm not doing it for you. But for me. I wanted to learn, no one can start from "Coding Everything from Scratch" especially legacy softwares like kernel and other things. So we start from compiling.... When we successfully compiled a ROM by facing and fixing many Errors. We move on to a new ROM, Coz New ROM will give new errors and we can learn to fix them. You may ask "Why you cant learn from Improving a rom...?" and my answer is "NO ONE IS GONNA TEACH ME HOW TO IMPROVE A ROM". Self learning needs lots of trial and error. So we building many ROMs. If you don't like that or you are a cry baby who cries for "XXXXX is not working" or "Poor XXXX". Just stick with STOCK ROM. XDA is for Learning and Not Only for SERVING YOU A BUG FREE, FULLY OPTIMIZED, FULLY FEATURED CUSTOM ROM for FREE.
Sorry.... if anything hurts anyone... I mean it.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Why did you took it personally lol? it was just an observation. yes there are people who want to learn and they have to start somewhere. nothing wrong in that. but when you see same people doing exactly same thing for a long time and not improving upon that. it becomes clear what they are doing.
and i never ask for fix this fix that, cuz i know who are actually developing and who are just waiting for fix to be developed by someone else. so no point asking. you sound like someone who wants to learn. but that doesn't mean everyone else is like you. there are people who as i said haven't learn anything but just copy paste cherry-pick for donation money. i rarely see anyone with their own piece of code. happens even more with kernel btw.
and yes i have compiled cm13 2 year ago that's the reason why i know this, and currently using my own (copy-paste haha) kernel for both MG5/nexus 5x. although i haven't released it. nor i'll. (source is on my git if you don't believe).
Anyway, best of luck for your learning, i hope you will learn a lot and will be able to fix problems by yourself instead of waiting for others. it's a long road ahead :good:
First of all, people always mistake ROM/Kernel etc development (not talking about app and other development which are indeed) as profession of devs, they do it in their FREE time because they like it, for example you play basketball because you like it.
Secondly, when there is shortage of ROMs, you yourself would complain about it, please correct me if I'm wrong. Different ROMs have different flavours, and everyone of us likes tasting different flavours. If you're worried about why a thread owner isn't updating it, you can migrate to other one instead of complaining about it.
Some guys have enough skills to compile ROMs, but not the ability to work on source code. So they wait for fixes by those who work on source, and update their ROMs as soon as bug is fixed. Also, compiling can be the start of learning development for guys.
Although I agree with @kraatus90 on some points, there are some things that I don't. First of all, there's no point of redoing the whole kernel, vendor, tree source stuff when you can use the available code with some modifications, obviously the one who uses it have to give proper credits to the bringup dev and other contributors. Also it should be moral duty of the forker to improve the forked code, be it in small or big ways. Simply forking, compiling and PUBLISHING is certainly disheartening and condemnable.
Hi,
I am wondering if there is a common way on this forum to express support for the development of a specific custom ROM for a phone? Is there a commonly accepted way to do this? (Came here to see if I could +1 a LineageOs thread for the Zenfone 9)
Rik
bump
rainyskye said:
bump
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
haha is this a +1 of my wish to be able to give a +1 ?
Hey mate,
I was thinking to contact developers and pay them to build lineage OS and make it official!
Or the other alternative is Learn how to build it and submit it for review on LOS website..
If you have any suggestions?
cool, no idea how to go about that, but I would be happy to contribute as well. I'm sure others would be too - I am on a forum where there are multiple threads dedicated to finding a good small deGoogled phone (community.e.foundation). There must be a place where people can put up amounts for a development like this, right? Sort of like a Kickstarter for a bit of development? I will ask on the other forum too
Rik44444 said:
cool, no idea how to go about that, but I would be happy to contribute as well. I'm sure others would be too - I am on a forum where there are multiple threads dedicated to finding a good small deGoogled phone (community.e.foundation). There must be a place where people can put up amounts for a development like this, right? Sort of like a Kickstarter for a bit of development? I will ask on the other forum too
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The problem with LineageOS is that when there is no more maintainer for a specific model the phone just goes to rubbish, no more security patch... same for the other custom rom... eOS depends on LOS repositories and even if lineage stop supporting a specific device eOS will keep updating their all supported devices... That's why I really like eOS. It doesn't matter if some features are unavailable... a phone is supposed to be used for call, text. Nowadays, everything seems to be sophisticated however it doesn't need to be... I'll start asking some recognised developers if they are willing to work on a LOS build for the zf9 for some money participation... maybe start a crowdfunding of an alternative without fraud!!
Bump
Hi bro,
Sorry got no time at the moment I ended up using a one plus 6 with eOS... I haven't started anything yet. I might need some help to organise something about crowdfunding..
Good luck and let us know if you have some ideas. Thank's