a port of aChef to C#.
well... I decided to make a port of aChef today to C# and I've done it... the speed improvement (especially when re-building the OS.nb) is superb so I figured it's definitely worth releasing; credit of course goes to Ahlok_hk of course for creating the Java applet in the first place.
other than the speed... there is no real benefit to using this over the original aChef... it does not do anything special or new, although over the weekend I will be porting this code into my ROM Kitchen pending a complete re-hash of the design and layout
Special Note:
at the request of ahlok_hk, he has asked that I not release it... therefore I have encrypted the zip folder; if you wish to use this then feel free to contact me for the file password, but please only do so if you intend to use this for internal developmental purposes.
the Java version of this application will more than suffice for general ROM Cooking.
Revised Version
New version noticeably faster; array conversions from unsigned to signed are gone... application is now much faster! (AND IT ACTUALLY WORKS!)
fixed, and released.
as an additional point; should ahlok_hk ever decide to release his source code, I will also release the source to this.
hi there... an other rom cooking kitchen is released.... "romkoch" ....
futureshock said:
hi there... an other rom cooking kitchen is released.... "romkoch" ....
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I know... I was testing it.
So, why would ahlok_hk be opposed to this release? Just curious...
Me too, especially that you can disassemble it so easily if you really wanna get the internals.
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So, why would ahlok_hk be opposed to this release? Just curious...
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Because this is a clone copy of aChef and it is release without my prior agreement.
Totally not necessary as he could just put the code into his kitchen but not to release just another aChef.
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Because this is a clone copy of aChef and it is release without my prior agreement.
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As I said, I passworded it, and nobody's asked me for the password yet
I've created it for the common good, I have no interest in credit whatsoever, so if you'd like me to attribute it soley to you, I'd be more than happy to; the purpose is to collaborate and work together to improve efficiency, but of course I do respect your wishes whatever they might be... I just hope that maybe you'll see that this is a good, not bad thing
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Me too, especially that you can disassemble it so easily if you really wanna get the internals.
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You could steal something when no one see you. But it doesn't mean you should do that.
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As I said, I passworded it, and nobody's asked me for the password yet
I've created it for the common good, I have no interest in credit whatsoever, so if you'd like me to attribute it soley to you, I'd be more than happy to; the purpose is to collaborate and work together to improve efficiency, but of course I do respect your wishes whatever they might be... I just hope that maybe you'll see that this is a good, not bad thing
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I undestand your point. Anyway thx for password protect it.
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piopawlu said:
Me too, especially that you can disassemble it so easily if you really wanna get the internals.
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You could steal something when no one see you. But it doesn't mean you should do that.
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Isn't it pretty much what reverse engineering is about? I am not saying it's good, but in some way this is what is being done all over here.
Personally I would like to have such a tool written in pure C, so that I don't have to download 20MB or more JVM even though it might seem more portable now.
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Personally I would like to have such a tool written in pure C
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do it yourself: this "tool" would be about several tens of code strings. Theory behind it described here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1143517#post1143517 .
...more portable...
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pure C is more portable than java
Finally fixed the tool in its entirety; you know it was a single typo that has kept me going for ages wondering what the hell was wrong with it... either way, new version will be uploaded shortly.
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You could steal something when no one see you. But it doesn't mean you should do that.
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that is very true... but if you did that, they would no longer have what you stole you would have it and they wouldn't... clearly this is not the case with software.
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That's why I said "it might seem more portable now" Anyway, right now I see no point rewriting this as I got JDK/JRE installed for other purposes. No more about it cuz this's going a bit off the topic.
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You could steal something when no one see you. But it doesn't mean you should do that.
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I have decompiled your software. It does not work (!) for the
athena image, because of looking at +0x208 for the MSFLSH50 magic
instead of +0x200. Is this behaviour intentional ?
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Anyway, right now I see no point rewriting this as I got JDK/JRE installed for other purposes.
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This program should be rewritten in C and released with the source code, so everybody will benefit from a working program.
Guys, i'm really surprised by the childish things like zipping
with password and not releasing the source freely
I don't know what the hell you're talking about; it's an unprotected JAR file; port it, or learn to know what's going on
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I have decompiled your software. It does not work (!) for the
athena image, because of looking at +0x208 for the MSFLSH50 magic
instead of +0x200. Is this behaviour intentional ?
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It seems the tool you're talking about is specific to the Hermes format (which has 8 additional bytes every 512 bytes).
Have a look at the ImgfsTools (originally by mamaich, enhanced version by me) available here. They should do all aChef/aWaiter can do (as far as I understood aChef), but are not specific to Hermes images.
Oh, and the source code for these tools is available from me, just ask if you want it.
Cheers
Daniel
tadzio said:
Have a look at the ImgfsTools (originally by mamaich, enhanced version by me) available here. They should do all aChef/aWaiter can do (as far as I understood aChef), but are not specific to Hermes images.
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The imgfstools can't load the decompression dll in wine for some reason (i don't have a computer with windows). I could have used rdmsflsh.pl, but it also needs
the decompression dll. The XPR compression from this dll seems to be irrelevant, and LZX is implemented in libmspack (cabextract).
Or course i can port the lzx decompressor code from libmspack,
but it's a pity that no ready solution already exists.
The java code may have been ok, but it does not work too.
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@all the coders
The community has people with very good coding skills (we know them and they know them each-other), so why you(we) do not concentrate your(our) skills and work on one big open-source app. The synergetic (network) effects would make it possible to build and later host a stable and all included community-based-open-source-group-coded app!
We have so many pseudo-proprietary based tools:
ROM-Kitchen, Hermes ROM Koch, nbhextract, et cetera...
Is think the best would be, to set up something like an open-source-project. - we can host the codesnippets on a subversion or cvs directory or something else to manage the distributed progress.
The efforts would be much bigger and come much faster, that should be clear for everybody.
So please let me know and i will set up such a directory!
Maybe pof can set up a poll for this - so we can get a democracy-based decision!
AFAIK this would be the first joined forces XDA-Developers development and i think it is realy the time for it!
And what are you waiting for ? Start development of this one big open-source app by yourself right now. And others would join if they find it interesting.
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And what are you waiting for ? Start development of this one big open-source app by yourself right now. And others would join if they find it interesting.
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I created a svn-repository,
please PM me with your email-adress to send you the account information!
I've meant start development not creating svn res
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I've meant start development not creating svn res
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I know but at first my programming skills are not as good as your skills are and at second why i should start a new app since we have a lot of lines already?
but as far as is see you won´t join, will you?
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why i should start
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why others should ?
but as far as is see you won´t join, will you?
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join to what ?
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why others should ?
join to what ?
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Others started already, so they just have to put their code in there and others can modify it.
Join the svn...
BTW: You know what a svn is, don´t you?
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they just have to put their code in there and others can modify it.
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There is sourceforge for it. And there was cvs rep on xda-developers. If you going to host another - that's good. But how it relates to starting of development of "a stable and all included community-based-open-source-group-coded app" ?
Join the svn...
BTW: You know what a svn is, don´t you?
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svn is in the first place code hosted there. No code == nothing to join.
Well, e.g. dutty could host his code in there, if he wants; olipro could host his code in there, if he wants; like all the others.
that would be good start.
Then merge the code and bring up new features... like guis (i would do that e.g.)
And yes, i can not host any code because i did not wrote something and i do not want to decompile the versions we have, because of ip, the developer should agree with it first.
besides this is just an idea, but reading your posts it seems this idea is not very welcome.
i wrote something like this to a mod here 2 weeks ago, did not got an answer, so at all i think it could really be a bad idea - however maybe some others will say somthing about it.
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besides this is just an idea, but reading your posts it seems this idea is not very welcome.
i wrote something like this to a mod here 2 weeks ago, did not got an answer, so at all i think it could really be a bad idea - however maybe some others will say somthing about it.
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I personally think it's a great idea! It's just too bad I'm not a developer; I wish I could help!
But yes, I believe that if everyone here worked together on a project, the results could be wonderful. I guess that doesn't mean much since I don't have the skills needed to contribute, but it still sounds ideal.
Des I Think Apokryphus Is Main Aim Is An Open Source ROM Kitchen.
With The Issue That ahok_hk Had With Olipro About Him Releasing A Ported Version Of His Software, I Think He Sees The Coders Working Against Each Other (Or At Least Being Rivals). And Wants Everyone To Play Nice To Create One Kitchen That Is Fast And Simple. Which Means That It Has To Be Open Source So Everyone Can Make Reccomendations On How To Update The Software.
Cheers
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Des I Think Apokryphus Is Main Aim Is An Open Source ROM Kitchen.
With The Issue That ahok_hk Had With Olipro About Him Releasing A Ported Version Of His Software, I Think He Sees The Coders Working Against Each Other (Or At Least Being Rivals). And Wants Everyone To Play Nice To Create One Kitchen That Is Fast And Simple. Which Means That It Has To Be Open Source So Everyone Can Make Reccomendations On How To Update The Software.
Cheers
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Exactly, but not only for recommendation also for modifying the software, thats the main goal - joined people can add their own lines of code to provide the stability or usability for instance.
i hope i did not got you wrong, what means that i think you meant with update not modifying. but in case of that is the meaning i totaly agree with your opinion.
sorry but i am not a native speaker and sometimes i have got some problem with the meaning of the translations.
see quine, in word and object, chapter 2 about the indeterminacy of translation.
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Des I Think Apokryphus Is Main Aim Is An Open Source ROM Kitchen.
With The Issue That ahok_hk Had With Olipro About Him Releasing A Ported Version Of His Software, I Think He Sees The Coders Working Against Each Other (Or At Least Being Rivals). And Wants Everyone To Play Nice To Create One Kitchen That Is Fast And Simple. Which Means That It Has To Be Open Source So Everyone Can Make Reccomendations On How To Update The Software.
Cheers
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I must stress that everyone has their rights for their own intellectual property because the have created them using many many hours of effort. And I was not saying that I am not going to release the code. But just not right now coz it is still in beta and many fixes/function will be added. And there is not such "The Coders Working Against Each Other" in my mine at all. Coders should "respect" each other.
For the case of Olipro, he not only stole and released the code "without my prior agreement", but still releasing it after I suggested him to just put those code in his kitchen.
On the other hand, dutty is good. Why? because he also wanted to use the souce code of aChef, and he did ask me before he wants to put it in his kitchen.
BTW, originally I have successfully added many new functions to aChef that no one has done/thought before, but I see no point to release them or to continue my effort now.
Anyway every one has their own thoughts about intellectual proterty. And I am not going to discuss here anymore. Good luck and Good bye to all.
it's a port... it's not your code, you didn't license your code, and you did not say anywhere that anyone was forbidden from creating a derivative work, I made it to benefit the community, if you want to let ego get in the way, that's your problem buddy, not mine.
while I reconize the merrits of open source, I think people should respect (an appreciate) the hard work that people have done. The people in this forum have made some wonderful software, provided it to us free of charge. If they want to put their hard work out there in an open source form, that's great, if not, that's also great - it should be their choice with no pressure.) I've not even seen anybody complain about their software being incorperated into other programs - they've just asked that you respect their IP which in my opinion is perfectly fair.
If you'd like something put into opensource, write a nice letter suggesting it with no pressure, and then leave it to the developer. If they want to they will, if not, simply thank them for their hard work an appreciate the product they've provided for you. If you push people who don't want to release it for whatever their reason, you'll alienate them and they'll cease development which would be a detrament to everybody!
<steps down off soapbox>Sorry for my pointless ramblings - please, continue ignoring me!
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BTW, originally I have successfully added many new functions to aChef that no one has done/thought before, but I see no point to release them or to continue my effort now.
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*cough* VAPOURWARE *cough*
we all appreciate your effort including me... but if diddums wants to throw a tantrum the feel free
HyperCore Athena ROM Kitchen Update
Core 20273 (Build 20273.1.3.1)
replace ROM & SYS folder in the kitchen
SPL 3.5 only
Rapidshare
Megaupload
What must be done to work in spl 1.2? Irus? Will you use this for your upcoming super ultra vanilla?
! !
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What must be done to work in spl 1.2? Irus? Will you use this for your upcoming super ultra vanilla?
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not sure, i will test
@xiumutou
Nice keyboard. Mind if I ask where you got it?
It's A4 keyboard(chinese)
Quick comment: afaik, neither 20226 nor 20270 have ever been released in a shipped ROM, so proceed at your own risk. It's one of the reasons I haven't yet updated from 5.2.19915.
And for the sake of my own sanity, I'll put aside the whole issue of taking work that somebody else did without any attribution (because it did take a bit of kicking around to get everything to work as well as it did).
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Quick comment: afaik, neither 20226 nor 20270 have ever been released in a shipped ROM, so proceed at your own risk. It's one of the reasons I haven't yet updated from 5.2.19915.
And for the sake of my own sanity, I'll put aside the whole issue of taking work that somebody else did without any attribution (because it did take a bit of kicking around to get everything to work as well as it did).
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Sogarth,
I believe you and the proof is in the pudding. Again thank you for your hard work and looking forward to the next ROM release.
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not sure, i will test
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I hope you find something good. it will be good to get another good spl 1.2 ROM.
WM 6.1 Core 20273(Build 20273.1.3.3) !!!!++++++=================
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WM 6.1 Core 20273(Build 20273.1.3.3) !!!!++++++=================
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Mutou,
Where can we get that?
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Mutou,
Where can we get that?
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don't worry about that.
Cmonex tell me that: build 20270 is the last, final version of wm6.1.
If her words are true, 20273 build can't exist, so his core is a fake.
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don't worry about that.
Cmonex tell me that: build 20270 is the last, final version of wm6.1.
If her words are true, 20273 build can't exist, so his core is a fake.
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I don't know if it's necessarily a fake - there have been developer leaks of Windows Mobile before (hell if I know where they get their hands on those, though ). But, regardless, I would imagine that a difference of three builds likely doesn't make a huge difference.
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I don't know if it's necessarily a fake - there have been developer leaks of Windows Mobile before (hell if I know where they get their hands on those, though ). But, regardless, I would imagine that a difference of three builds likely doesn't make a huge difference.
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lol i'm sure about that.
Here you can find it: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=412130
It's a debug ROM for Diamond, I think, it isn't fake.
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Here you can find it: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=412130
It's a debug ROM for Diamond, I think, it isn't fake.
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good!
but changing the sys for only 3 build...uhm...
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good!
but changing the sys for only 3 build...uhm...
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Why not? Come on. If you're already going to work on the next version, might as well, right? Who knows, there may be improvement/bug correction here and there.
lol too late...
my next version is closed, (1.83)
i uploaded it today.
Now, it's only for testers, but after a few days i'll share the link
PS. When i change major version (from 1 to 2), i'll change build too
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lol too late...
my next version is closed, (1.83)
i uploaded it today.
Now, it's only for testers, but after a few days i'll share the link
PS. When i change major version (from 1 to 2), i'll change build too
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Fair enough. You're so close yo releasing the next version ? lol. Do you guys get any sleep at night?
lol...ask to my athena...lol
Have I missed a memo?
Why is it that the only base ROM's that I can find for the Raphael are 19965 builds?
Seem to be plenty of newer ROM's knocking around as cooked versions, but as the chefs insist on protecting them all the time, they're as good as useless for a part-timer like myself who likes to cook his own personal ROM's.
I never had this problem with any previous devices, so what's gone wrong? Have I upset someone?!
I totally agree...
Want to get my hands on build 2755.0.1.4 and turn it into dutch and tweak the hell out of it!
But first we need a source-rom...
Seconded.
yep a bit strange
all 20755 OS version are ported ones, for now no raphael native 20755 version out...
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all 20755 OS version are ported ones, for now no raphael native 20755 version out...
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Is the procedure still the same like this?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=389772
or alternatively I can unpack any 20755 ROM and copy the MSXIPKernel and MSXIPKernelLTK (also the SYS contents) to my base ROM and tweak it to my hearts content?
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Is the procedure still the same like this?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=389772
or alternatively I can unpack any 20755 ROM and copy the MSXIPKernel and MSXIPKernelLTK (also the SYS contents) to my base ROM and tweak it to my hearts content?
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I've also started experimenting with porting. But can we just use any wm6.1 rom, as long as we keep the device oemkernelXP?
If I replace all 0409 files with 0413 in OEM en SYS will I have a flawless dutch rom? Or do I have to change links, rgu or dsm-files also? That's new for me...
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Fair enough, I kind of guessed that 20755 was ported, 'cause it seems to be available for all devices.
I'm very surprised that after two months, there's still no native build newer than the original 19965. What are HTC up to!?
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Fair enough, I kind of guessed that 20755 was ported, 'cause it seems to be available for all devices.
I'm very surprised that after two months, there's still no native build newer than the original 19965. What are HTC up to!?
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19971 is the latest officially released build, check the wiki for the shipped ROMs we have available.
For 2 days I'm trying to find a 20755 based rom to port sys and xip from, but all the ones I find are protected...
Anybody found one? please link me to it..
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Cheers, I forgot about that one. Saw it in the Wiki a while back, and I flashed it briefly, but I've always struggled to customise Cingular ROM's in the past because of the amount of time it takes to get rid of every last little bit of their "tweaking". So I ignored it - partly because I assumed the slightly increased build number was only to do with the Cingular customisations.
I'll just have to wait until something new comes along from HTC.
I used to love the convenience of picking up an "almost perfect" cooked ROM to tweak for my own use, but it seems that chefs don't want us to do that these days. Thats their choice I suppose - BUT (and I'll get crucified for this!) it smacks of double standards when the "real" hard work was pinched from Microsoft/HTC in the first place.
I'm not trying to start an argument by the way! I just really wish that I could actually benefit from the various chefs' hard work, rather than having to do everything from scratch because of the restrictions they impose...
Only one chef that I know of (may have been kyphur?) still releases unprotected ROM's - maybe I just need to buy him a Touch Pro!?!
Here is what a collaegue chef has said:
"I'm not a big fan of people out there that protect "their" rom, which I think goes against the principle of forums and communities. Therefore I'm not protecting it against unpacking so that anyone can learn and share their knowledge. Of course, if you appreciate my work and want to buy me a drink, donation is welcome"
Thanks Spocky!!!
That's what it is all about indeed! But alot of cooks' egos are getting to big. Do not get me wrong, I really appreciate their efforts but by protecting rom's this way you don't give beginning cooks like myself a chance to learn it... And I think XDA is a place where we should learn from each other!
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Here is what a collaegue chef has said:
"I'm not a big fan of people out there that protect "their" rom, which I think goes against the principle of forums and communities. Therefore I'm not protecting it against unpacking so that anyone can learn and share their knowledge. Of course, if you appreciate my work and want to buy me a drink, donation is welcome"
Thanks Spocky!!!
That's what it is all about indeed! But alot of cooks' egos are getting to big. Do not get me wrong, I really appreciate their efforts but by protecting rom's this way you don't give beginning cooks like myself a chance to learn it... And I think XDA is a place where we should learn from each other!
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What you will find is that in the process of tweaking the ROMs the dsm and rgu files are removed as they represent around 200 files which sit in \Windows doing nothing. The more files in \Windows the more sluggish access to it is. Just happens that a side effect of this technique is that the dsm and rgu files are not present to allow a reconstruction of the ROM back into package form. Theres nothing wrong with ASKING for help when you require it about cooking etc...
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What you will find is that in the process of tweaking the ROMs the dsm and rgu files are removed as they represent around 200 files which sit in \Windows doing nothing. The more files in \Windows the more sluggish access to it is. Just happens that a side effect of this technique is that the dsm and rgu files are not present to allow a reconstruction of the ROM back into package form. Theres nothing wrong with ASKING for help when you require it about cooking etc...
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Thank you very much for clarifying this issue! I was really getting annoyed by being under the impression that it was done on purpose.
Two facts/questions remain:
1) While dumping a rom (will not mention it's chef) my kitchen command line gave the message: "cook your own ROM!". So that is defenitly done on purpose... I regret that...
2) But with the pro's new way of cooking how can I as amateur cook get my hands on for example a 20755.1.4.0 build (XIP/SYS)??
Anyway again thanks for your explanation!
There are no any official ROMs for any device with build higher than 19971.
All these 20xxx ROMs can be simple fake - old builds with patched version number.
There is no any serious evidence that all these 20xxx builds are real. Only "trustful" words from some "elite" cookers
So, you may trust or not trust. I'm personally, don't trust any build if there is no any official (at least official beta) ROMs with such build. There are so many 100% fake builds are floating around.
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Thank you very much for clarifying this issue! I was really getting annoyed by being under the impression that it was done on purpose.
Two facts/questions remain:
1) While dumping a rom (will not mention it's chef) my kitchen command line gave the message: "cook your own ROM!". So that is defenitly done on purpose... I regret that...
2) But with the pro's new way of cooking how can I as amateur cook get my hands on for example a 20755.1.4.0 build (XIP/SYS)??
Anyway again thanks for your explanation!
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1) the tool used to compress the dsms into one single package (thus MANY rgu and dsm file compressed into a single dsm file) generates this string, by default it is "BETA go cook your own ROM" or something to that effect but a simple hex editor can change it to something nicer such as "dsms compressed, sorry".
2) These builds (regardless of what people will claim) are genuine and the tool to edit the version numbers (which are encrypted afaik) is VERY rare, too much hassle than its worth to edit ALL the version numbers it would take AGES. They may not have been released on the devices officially but none-the-less they are out there and they are genuine WM6.1 builds. Each to thier own, but the newer builds DO have some serious improvments over the stock releases on the raphael.
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Thank you very much for clarifying this issue! I was really getting annoyed by being under the impression that it was done on purpose.
Two facts/questions remain:
1) While dumping a rom (will not mention it's chef) my kitchen command line gave the message: "cook your own ROM!". So that is defenitly done on purpose... I regret that...
2) But with the pro's new way of cooking how can I as amateur cook get my hands on for example a 20755.1.4.0 build (XIP/SYS)??
Anyway again thanks for your explanation!
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I had asked your second question myself for a while and then I discover that many websites (in chinese though) such as xbeta.cn or 5dpda, they have the latest builds (many maybe fake) floating around. You can get one of them there. Or you can go to the Nike sub-forum, I find they have a nice storage of the most recent builds (such as 20748 to 20755), which are ported to NIke, you can re-port them using the same technique. My advice is to do a quick search of the whole forum, not just your device's, every one a while to check the newest build. Hope this help.
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not true. there are genuine samsung i900/i908 ROMs containing 20270.1.3.1 and 20721.1.4.0 (and others). however I have not seen any genuine ROM containing 20748+.
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no offense sir, but i have never bought into this one.
it has been shown that using filemanager to scroll in the \windows folder is more sluggish with more files. many people have begun using this excuse as a reason for removing dsm and rgu files. however, i have seen no evidence to say that the device is more sluggish in general when more files exist in \windows. (and i have tested myself)
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alot of cooks' egos are getting to big....by protecting rom's this way you don't give beginning cooks like myself a chance to learn it.
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i mean no offense here either, but this statement is unfair. chefs can do whatever they please, and users have no right to be upset about their decisions.
(going way off on a tangent here...)
i agree that this community is based on sharing and intentionally making the process harder for another person is counterproductive. however, expecting every experienced chef to cater to every end user's desire to learn the process is the opposite extreme. taking up experienced chef's time to do nothing but train inexperienced chefs would also be counterproductive. in example, i generally do not answer questions on here after the answer has already been made readily available. if you have a legitimate question that you made an honest effort to answer on your own and were unable to, i would be glad to help, and so would most chefs.
i didnt learn how to customize a ROM by dumping other people's custom ROMs. i spent a year searching and reading forums to no end. the information i searched for and read hasnt gone anywhere, and its not my responsibility to nicely organize and summarize it for the next guy. you cant call out chefs because they arent making it easier for you than it was for them.
that said, i don't protect my ROMs.
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no offense sir, but i have never bought into this one.
it has been shown that using filemanager to scroll in the \windows folder is more sluggish with more files. many people have begun using this excuse as a reason for removing dsm and rgu files. however, i have seen no evidence to say that the device is more sluggish in general when more files exist in \windows. (and i have tested myself)
i mean no offense here either, but this statement is unfair. chefs can do whatever they please, and users have no right to be upset about their decisions. i didnt learn how to customize a ROM by dumping other people's custom ROMs. i spent a year searching and reading forums to no end. the information i searched for and read hasnt gone anywhere, and its not my responsibility to nicely organize and summarize it for the next guy. you cant call out chefs because they arent making it easier for you than it was for them.
that said, i don't protect my ROMs.
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1) which program do they use to compress the dsm's? I want to see if it makes a change...
2) I must agree to you about that they can do what they want, but for the part about making it easier I disagree. If it takes me a long time to figure somthing out I will share that knowledge on fora like this just to save others from putting the same effort into it as I did myself. (dutch expression: don't invent the wheel twice...) That's what the idea is isn't it? In my opinion it's selfish to think: I had too work hard so they will also have to do that (we are not 5 year olds are we?). And of course there will always be people who will 'steal a rom' and act as if they made it themselves, but that will be only a few. The majority would be pleased that they can 'finetune' a great chef's rom to their own needs!
I also searched for a year and read thousands of threads. I also started with shipped ROMS. But now I'm getting the hang of it a little and then it's dissapointing that you are not allowed to for example to port a newer xip/sys, to build your OWN cooked rom, because they do not want to share (not all like MrVanx mentionned). But it is just for argument's sake because I found a source for the 20755.1.4.0 XIP and SYS already. And if I can make somebody happy with those, I will be glad to share...
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1) which program do they use to compress the dsm's? I want to see if it makes a change...
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all_packages_to_one.exe
Included in Raphael Kitchen
Cheers
saw this while browsing wmpoweruser
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=428030
chefs??? what say you????
its fake, i think..
It's still a pre beta version - also it's mentioned that not whole 6.5 build is there.
Interesting as a news, but not worth to port to our devices (my personal opinion)
it might be fake but you never know
http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/12/windows-mobile-6-5-screenshots-have-a-little-zune-in-em/
they have just posted this in the diamond thread
so i know what they are like over there
had to warn them...they see 6.5 and try to install the Blue Angel rom on there diamonds
and there next post "help me"
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It's still a pre beta version - also it's mentioned that not whole 6.5 build is there.
Interesting as a news, but not worth to port to our devices (my personal opinion)
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take a look at the build number....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3202029&postcount=436
ROM: CE OS 5.2.21139 (Build 21139.5.0.0)
thats not to far off from the madness build 21014.1.6.0 that was running around here.
not sure much porting will be required....might not be as much effort as the first attempt with the 21014.1.6.0 build.
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so i know what they are like over there
had to warn them...they see 6.5 and try to install the Blue Angel rom on there diamonds
and there next post "help me"
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LMAO!!! thats sweeeeet!
here are my thoughts
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3202202&postcount=440
lets see if he response
Hope i dont get flamed
as you can see here, it is possible to fake a build, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3171428&postcount=5 which i did as a joke, and sorta to make a point.
in fact
they DFT have that core WM6.5
I really wouldn't doubt the DFT. They are the first to put out a lot of stuff in my experiences.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3202202&postcount=440
lets see if he response
Hope i dont get flamed
as you can see here, it is possible to fake a build, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3171428&postcount=5 which i did as a joke, and sorta to make a point.
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I think it is a quite valid question. I see no reason why youd get flamed. My guess is if you got a complete match against 21014 that it is most likely not a valid build number. However MS may have just threw in the stuff for the IE and UI then changed the build to put out a quick beta test on the UI and IE. Im sure time will tell. Thanks for the the thoughts
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It's still a pre beta version - also it's mentioned that not whole 6.5 build is there.
Interesting as a news, but not worth to port to our devices (my personal opinion)
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+1
i'm sure i'll get flamed for this, but i have to tell you guys somehow. i work for a *ahem* company that we all know, and this is an interim build that was dogfood for the team awhile ago. it is not full 6.5. the company knows that they are losing the smartphone battle and like many have suggested, 6.5 will have relatively full touch-y UI to appeal to the masses while they work on 7. the UI is along the same lines as the engadget screens. there's more to the update than just the UI and IE8.
7 is a full on new OS, but 6.5 will be a decent upgrade for us. there are builds of 7 btw, but they are so alpha they are of no use to us... on the other hand, the devices they are using to dogfood are currently available, so it's probable that we'll be able to port it. about q3/q4 we'll see early builds of 7.
i hope this was vague enough to not offend the company, and i'm sorry that i cannot say anymore...
Enough conjecture, can someone post a rapidshare or other link that doesn't go 2k/s so I can port this sucker to our Raphael and we can give it a go
it's annoying how these xbeta and chinese beta sites can't actually provide us with the RAW beta!! we get mixed hex'd builds.. (sigh)
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Enough conjecture, can someone post a rapidshare or other link that doesn't go 2k/s so I can port this sucker to our Raphael and we can give it a go
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I believe this is what ya need
Link is from the blue angel thread where it originated. .
http://rs471.rapidshare.com/files/187066265/Windows_Mobile6.5Professional_QVGA_v7.9.25_HTCBA.zip
IE8
Anyone try installing the IE8 from this release?
http://rapidshare.com/files/149008275/FIXED_MS_IE_8.cab.html
If yes, please give us a feedback about it.
do you have a link for xip and sys?? i've looked in darkforce and can't find it.
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do you have a link for xip and sys?? i've looked in darkforce and can't find it.
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The link I used this morning seems to be gone. All the pages linked in that forum are in chinese or something. Ive edited my post since i now cant seem to get it. Ill try to google translate the other pages and see what I can come up with.
Snagged that link, it's an .nbf, gotta go snag my older kitchen tools from the archives..
and hope that it's not protected!
/me is off to locate them
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Snagged that link, it's an .nbf, gotta go snag my older kitchen tools from the archives..
and hope that it's not protected!
/me is off to locate them
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I used Swampy395Decompiler to dump the nbf but it dumped to a 18.9 meg dump that won't build to a sys or oem.
however no overlap errors during dump process which usually means we might be ok.
A few months ago I heard about a company called CornerStone that was demoing TRUE multitasking on Android. It was pretty awesome. It allowed you to run up to 3 apps simultaneously on the screen and you could easily interact with each of them. Check out the video below:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qX8w3UZIjkc
Just when I thought this project was dead, they dropped a big bomb. Now OnSkreen (which was suppose to be reserved for big manufacturers to use) is now OPEN SOURCE! That means devs can bake this into their ROM and we, the users, can enjoy awesome multitasking capabilities! This is gonna be awesome! Can't wait to see where this goes.
http://us2.campaign-archive2.com/?u=b261efe2acec30149813de83c&id=0b60c32006&e=5ec7b968da
props to dgcruzing for the news.
Very nice! Can't wait til the bootloader unlock drops and a chef cooks this baby in
Quick, how do i add it to my tablet?
i500 said:
Quick, how do i add it to my tablet?
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like this...
Thats going to be power hungry depending what apps you use but going to be a must have
Sent from my ADR6300 using xda premium
could this possibly be turned into an apk? im no developer (yet ), but wouldnt it be the same thing if built into a rom? just cooked into /system/apps?
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could this possibly be turned into an apk? im no developer (yet ), but wouldnt it be the same thing if built into a rom? just cooked into /system/apps?
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it could be made into an aPk
demandarin said:
it could be made into an aPk
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excellent. who shall undertake the job? i would if i knew how, still just barely learning android development. but at least in apk form, we wouldnt need to wait for roms and bootloaders. and i could also get it on other non prime devices
Very nice! Can't wait to see this in a future prime ROM.
what if we modified one of the updates and trick the prime into thinking the modified source was an update? Im no developer but couldnt that work?
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what if we modified one of the updates and trick the prime into thinking the modified source was an update? Im no developer but couldnt that work?
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Wrong thread. Plus it won't work. Was already tried before n didn't work. Plus no matter how you modify it, prime will still view it as an older update.
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could this possibly be turned into an apk? im no developer (yet ), but wouldnt it be the same thing if built into a rom? just cooked into /system/apps?
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demandarin said:
it could be made into an aPk
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excellent. who shall undertake the job? i would if i knew how, still just barely learning android development. but at least in apk form, we wouldnt need to wait for roms and bootloaders. and i could also get it on other non prime devices
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No, it cannot. This mod needs deep integration into the android framework. It's not possible only with an apk.
demandarin said:
Wrong thread. Plus it won't work. Was already tried before n didn't work. Plus no matter how you modify it, prime will still view it as an older update.
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how is it in the wrong thread if its directly relating and responding to OP? What if it were done to a new or current update (for instance, i still have not done the 13 update, insert it into there and update, the prime sees it as a newer update, i get mods working)
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how is it in the wrong thread if its directly relating and responding to OP? What if it were done to a new or current update (for instance, i still have not done the 13 update, insert it into there and update, the prime sees it as a newer update, i get mods working)
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No, you can't modify the update files. They are checked for integrity prior to flashing.
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No, you can't modify the update files. They are checked for integrity prior to flashing.
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kinda like an md5 sumcheck right? im only guessing, please correct my stupids
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kinda like an md5 sumcheck right? im only guessing, please correct my stupids
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Yea, "kinda" Just with a bit of uncrackable security added
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Yea, "kinda" Just with a bit of uncrackable security added
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pfft... imma put this through my Etch-A-Sketch and crack it right now...
This is awesome! Really puts the convenience over the top. Putting this on the TFP would make it a true laptop replacement...how hard would it be to throw this into stock ICS?
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No, it cannot. This mod needs deep integration into the android framework. It's not possible only with an apk.
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Exactly. Per a quote from the Cornerstone Facebook page:
Cornerstone
We've had a bunch of questions about this so wanted to clear it up. The technology behind Cornerstone has to be part of the Android OS itself. That is why we are working directly with device manufacturers to include Cornerstone with devices they plan to ship. Cornerstone is not an application that you will be able to download from the Android Market.
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I agree def not through a normal apk however I have seen some crazy **** done BY applications with root access... Could you not make a sort of installer that would use root access to wrote the needed files to the proper directories?