OK, I've read the wiki and various FAQs on the topic. I am basically looking for confirmation on my plan as I have never done anything like this before. I don't want to see sparks flying out of my 8525 after trying to upgrade.
I have the 1.16 Radio and 1.34 ROM currently and I want to get to 1.34 radio, 2.06 ROM, 3.3 AKU. I think my procedure should be to:
1. perform the CID/SIM unlocker v3 per http://forum.xdadevelopers.com/showthread.php?t=293665
2. Install the latest ROM per:
http://rapidshare.com/files/18315008/RUU_HER_CINGULAR_2.06.502.3_1.34.00.10_SPL1.04.exe which should update the ROM and radio.
And I believe all of this is able to be done without downgrading to boot loader 1.04.
Thanks for the help.
pstritt said:
OK, I've read the wiki and various FAQs on the topic. I am basically looking for confirmation on my plan as I have never done anything like this before. I don't want to see sparks flying out of my 8525 after trying to upgrade.
I have the 1.16 Radio and 1.34 ROM currently and I want to get to 1.34 radio, 2.06 ROM, 3.3 AKU. I think my procedure should be to:
1. perform the CID/SIM unlocker v3 per http://forum.xdadevelopers.com/showthread.php?t=293665
2. Install the latest ROM per:
http://rapidshare.com/files/18315008/RUU_HER_CINGULAR_2.06.502.3_1.34.00.10_SPL1.04.exe which should update the ROM and radio.
And I believe all of this is able to be done without downgrading to boot loader 1.04.
Thanks for the help.
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You dont have too SuperCID but I would. That ROM will not downgrade your BL to 1.04. You BL will stay the same or become 1.04 if you happen to have something lower, which I doubt.
wpbear said:
Your BL will stay the same or become 1.04 if you happen to have something lower, which I doubt.
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Are you saying it won't downgrade the BL regardless of the SuperCID status, or depending on which BL it currently has?
@pstritt: Based on the other info you provided, I'm guessing you must have SPL 1.06. You should be able to flash that ROM without going SuperCID first, as I've done so myself. My SPL remained 1.06 (why it did being contingent upon the answer to the question above).
Really no reason to SuperCID anymore...
Just run the Cingular rom in the wiki as your first step. Second step is to run Oli's 1.10.Oli Bootloader.
So...
1) http://rapidshare.com/files/18315008/RUU_HER_CINGULAR_2.06.502.3_1.34.00.10_SPL1.04.exe
2) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=296722
AND, if you want to be able to edit your ExtRom, see this:
3) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=297085
Done.
Nothing else needed anymore
LegolasTheElf said:
Really no reason to SuperCID anymore...
Just run the Cingular rom in the wiki as your first step. Second step is to run Oli's 1.10.Oli Bootloader.
So...
1) http://rapidshare.com/files/18315008/RUU_HER_CINGULAR_2.06.502.3_1.34.00.10_SPL1.04.exe
2) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=296722
AND, if you want to be able to edit your ExtRom, see this:
3) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=297085
Done.
Nothing else needed anymore
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What if you wanted to go back to an earlier radio, just the radio?
LegolasTheElf said:
Really no reason to SuperCID anymore...
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Yes, I must agree. Looks like I got my Hermes at just the right time!
PhonePhun said:
What if you wanted to go back to an earlier radio, just the radio?
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Most of the links for radio only use Des' SSPL, so, SuperCID isn't needed. In fact, you don't even need to worry about having the appropriate BL either as Des' BL uses 1.09 to flash radios, even the 0108...
So, grab the packed RUU and run. Done.
If you aren't SuperCIDing your device, you **REALLY** should install the Oli BL; reason is that if there is a bad radio flash, it will save you in a VERY big way! Highly recommended to do it before you start mucking around too much with radios/os/etc...
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If you aren't SuperCIDing your device, you **REALLY** should install the Oli BL; reason is that if there is a bad radio flash, it will save you in a VERY big way! Highly recommended to do it before you start mucking around too much with radios/os/etc...
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Here again, I wholeheartedly agree. Until 1.10.Oli came about the light never went on with me as to the hidden benefits of SuperCID/1.04, despite that fact I had no burning desire to flash cross-CID or "generic" ROMs (...yet!).
Now I understand that it'll give you the ability to manuever in the BL if you happen to hose your radio, etc.
LegolasTheElf said:
If you aren't SuperCIDing your device, you **REALLY** should install the Oli BL; reason is that if there is a bad radio flash, it will save you in a VERY big way! Highly recommended to do it before you start mucking around too much with radios/os/etc...
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I've been keeping up with that thread, read alot of the wiki, but still can't seem to wrap myself around all the info I've taken in. I think I'm starting to get it some now. All's I've done so far is upgrade my official ROM with AKU 3.3 so now I have bl 1.09 and I'm still not ready to flash with WM6, but in the meantime I do want to upgrade my radio from 1.33 to 1.35 but still have the option to drop back if I wanted to.
PhonePhun said:
I have bl 1.09
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Install Oli's BootLoader BEFORE YOU DO ANYTHING ELSE! Unless of course you want to risk a brick?
LegolasTheElf said:
Install Oli's BootLoader BEFORE YOU DO ANYTHING ELSE! Unless of course you want to risk a brick?
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Definitly don't want to brick it. Thanks for the advice, anything else I should know? Do I use Oli's BL in your sig, since there are 2 available?
LegolasTheElf said:
Install Oli's BootLoader BEFORE YOU DO ANYTHING ELSE!
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Done deal. Took maybe a minute to load and blam... "SuperCID".
PhonePhun said:
Definitly don't want to brick it. Thanks for the advice, anything else I should know? Do I use Oli's BL in your sig, since there are 2 available?
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no, enter the thread, there's only one available; the 1.01 stuff is only available as NB files and you have to know what you're doing to flash those whereas 1.10 is available as an RUU update that you can run on your computer to flash; that's the one you want
PhonePhun said:
Definitly don't want to brick it. Thanks for the advice, anything else I should know? Do I use Oli's BL in your sig, since there are 2 available?
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Stick to running the installer (ROMUpgradeUt.exe) to flash the 1.04-based version unless you really know what you're doing. Olipro left his 1.01-based version as .nb's for this very reason.
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Hi, I'm new of the forum, I would want to know how to show the version of the ExtROM in “Device Information” with version 0.20 of XDA Live. Thanks a lot for the answer.
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I've read and reread various posts about this. I just want to make sure I have the steps down before I go forward.
What I have now:
Cingular 8525
Rom: 1.34.502.1
Radio version : 1.16
SPL: 1.06
What I would like achieve:
Rom: 2.06.502.3
Radion version: 1.27
SPL: 1.04
Ext Rom: 2.06.502.3
1) Downgrade to SPL 1.04 by flashing the 8525 with file RUU_HER_Cingular_1.30.502.1_1.11.00.00_wwe_cws_ship.exe. This is because it matches my CID CWS__001 and it has SPL 1.04. I guess I simply run it without any other preparations. Is this correct?
2) Super CID and simunlock using HTC_Hermes_SIM_Unlock_v2a.zip
3) I choose the ROM RUU_Hermes_CINGULAR_WWE_2.06.502.3_6275_1.33.31.00_108_Ship.exe
4) Use NBExtract to decompress the above ROM to get files OS.nbf and Extrom.nbf file
5) Flash SPL 1.01MFG using mtty.exe. Is this necessary? Can't I flash OS.nbf with SPL1.04?
6) Flash OS.nbf file extracted using mtty.exe
7) Flash extrom.nbf file extracted using mtty.exe
8) Flash radio from file RUU_Hermes_TMD-TMA_Radiopatch_1.27.00.00_107_GER.exe by simply running it. Is this correct?
Am I missing something in the process?
Lastly, Is this the best COMBINATION of ROM, radio, and ext ROM? And how does RUU_Hermes_CINGULAR_WWE_2[1].06.502.3_6275_1.33.31.00_108_Ship compared to 2.05?
Thanks for any input.
5)
anubus12 said:
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1) Downgrade to SPL 1.04 by flashing the 8525 with file RUU_HER_Cingular_1.30.502.1_1.11.00.00_wwe_cws_ship.exe. This is because it matches my CID CWS__001 and it has SPL 1.04. I guess I simply run it without any other preparations. Is this correct?
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I guess there isnt really any need to do that, if you flash SPL 1.01MFG to it then theres no need to do this step.
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2) Super CID and simunlock using HTC_Hermes_SIM_Unlock_v2a.zip
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I would use the unlocker v3 (i suspect you meant v3 anyway)
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3) I choose the ROM RUU_Hermes_CINGULAR_WWE_2.06.502.3_6275_1.33.31.00_108_Ship.exe
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The ROM you choose is entirely up to you so yes this should be ok
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4) Use NBExtract to decompress the above ROM to get files OS.nbf and Extrom.nbf file
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Yep goes without saying ;-)
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5) Flash SPL 1.01MFG using mtty.exe. Is this necessary? Can't I flash OS.nbf with SPL1.04?
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IF you are doing this then it would be the FIRST step you do
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6) Flash OS.nbf file extracted using mtty.exe
7) Flash extrom.nbf file extracted using mtty.exe
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Still....yes no problem.
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8) Flash radio from file RUU_Hermes_TMD-TMA_Radiopatch_1.27.00.00_107_GER.exe by simply running it. Is this correct?
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This part is beyond what i did, my process was that i upgraded to radio ROM 1.27.00.00 using the signed .exe because i originally had SPL 1.09.
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Am I missing something in the process?
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You seem to have it figured out, but dont go on what i say here, wait for it to be verified by more than just me
My process (having already got superCID and unlocked a while ago) was to upgrade to radio 1.27.00.00 before anything else, then to flash SPL 1.01MFG using mtty, then flash the OS.nb file from the ROM i chose, then to flash ExtROM.nb (again from the ROM i chose). By using radio 1.27 you will have radio loader 107 which is recommended still.
Once some other people have looked over what you posted then you should go ahead (if they all give the "all clear" )
You combination of rom and radio is a good idea (the ROM and ExtROM is entirely up to you but the radio is the highest that doesnt have loader 108?)
It's even easier than that;
get my Custom RUU kit and you can skip the reflash;
take the 3.3AKU and extract the RUU_Signed.
extract the RUU signed with NBHExtract or my GUI tool (make sure it's all in the same directory) then you can create a NEW RUU with SPL 1.04, whatever radio you like (if you want a new one) and the 3.3 OS AKU.
remember: if you do it this way, you can have whatever components you want; ExtROM, OS, mix and match anything.
however... if you don't think you can manage doing this, tell me what you want and I'll happily assemble it for you
1. SuperCid and Unlock with POF VERSION 3
Website:
http://pof.eslack.org/hermes-unlocker/
Install Instructions:
Easy auto-install Instructions:
Unzip unlocker and run AUTO_Unlock_v3.bat
If you don't want to install automatically, or for some reason the process doesn't work for you, here are the manual instructions:
Transfer SSPL/SSPL-HERM.exe to your phone and run it
Tri-color screen will appear
Disable activesync (file -> connection settings -> uncheck "allow USB connections")
Connect your phone to your computer using the USB lead.
Run RUU/ROMUpgradeUt.exe
Follow the flashing process (Check the "I understand..." and "I completed..." boxes and update!)
Allow your phone to reboot.
Transfer HERM_Unlock_v3.exe program to your phone and run it
Click the Unlock Button, select unlock option. Select if you want SIM/CID unlock.
Click "Unlock!" and wait until process finishes.
When done, turn off your phone for 10 seconds and reboot after that.
2. Then Run this cooked ROM (Cooked w/Olipro software)
http://uploadingit.com/files/8194/RUU_CINGULAR_2.06.502.3_1.27.00.00_SPL1.04.zip
Rom: 2.06.502.3
Radion version: 1.27
SPL: 1.04
Ext Rom: 2.06.502.3
I think radio 1.33 or 1.34 is better then 1.27. I do not see a difference between 1.33 or 1.34 though.
You pretty much had the process but this will be easier for you.
just to point out; SuperCID and Unlock (unless using a different SIM) is unnecessary and *could* potentially invalidate your warranty.
SuperCID is pretty much redundant nowadays with the new SSPL; the only real advantage to having your device SuperCID is if there isn't a ROM for your CID with old version stuff to revert to.
Thank you for all the replies! I appreciate it.
@mrvanx and wpbear
The reason stated using unlocker v2a was because, from what I understand, if I use v3 it would put a patched 1.08 Radio BL (which I thought we want to avoid). Which means that I won't be able to "downgrade" to a lower version radio. Am I wrong?
@mrvanx
You said that I didn't need to downgrade to 1.04 BL because I could use 1.01MFG. I thought that I couldn't do that with 1.06 or higher. I had to downgrade to 1.04 first.
@wpbear
I assume in order to use your custom cooked ROM, I have to SuperCID right?
@Olipro
Thanks for the offer of cooking up a ROM. I think wpbear's ROM has everything I wanted. But again, if I wanted to use your ROM, I would have to SuperCID? Also, where can I get your GUI?
But what is the best combination right now of OS, Ext, and radio?
Thanks again!
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Also, where can I get your GUI?
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Nevermind, I found your GUI. Thanks!
The only advantage of real SuperCID is being able to write to extrom once you've unlocked it.
You did a real nice v1.0 upgrade set of instructions btw They were perfect. In fact that's exactly what I did to upgrade my 8525.
However, the recent explosion of NBHtools that take advantage of Des' SSPL technique (nicely done Olipro btw )have opened up much better ways to accomplish this now.
anubus12 said:
Thank you for all the replies! I appreciate it.
@Olipro
Thanks for the offer of cooking up a ROM. I think wpbear's ROM has everything I wanted. But again, if I wanted to use your ROM, I would have to SuperCID? Also, where can I get your GUI?
But what is the best combination right now of OS, Ext, and radio?
Thanks again!
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no, you do *not* have to SuperCID at all with my RUU since it uses SSPL.
if you use the custom RUU (and you can tell, it has the XDA Dev logo on) then your device does not need to be SuperCID
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@mrvanx
You said that I didn't need to downgrade to 1.04 BL because I could use 1.01MFG. I thought that I couldn't do that with 1.06 or higher. I had to downgrade to 1.04 first.
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You SHOULD be ok, i downgraded to SPL 1.01MFG from version 1.09 by just flashing it using mtty.exe. I followed the instructions on the How to Flash AKU3.3 Update thread (the first post) to get my new ROM onto my device. I used the HTC AKU3.3 Test ROM and it worked just great.
anubus12 said:
Thank you for all the replies! I appreciate it.
@mrvanx and wpbear
The reason stated using unlocker v2a was because, from what I understand, if I use v3 it would put a patched 1.08 Radio BL (which I thought we want to avoid). Which means that I won't be able to "downgrade" to a lower version radio. Am I wrong?
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I do not think Pof unlocker put BL 108 on your device, but it doesnt matter anymore since SSPL bypass this and you can now still do radio only changes.
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@wpbear
I assume in order to use your custom cooked ROM, I have to SuperCID right?
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No, the bootloader bypasses this now, but as someone else pointed out, if you want to change your Ext_ROM with the hack in the Wiki later, you will need to SuperCID still.
anubus12 said:
But what is the best combination right now of OS, Ext, and radio?
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OS/Ext ROM: 2.06
Radio 1.34 or 1.27
wpbear said:
Then Run this cooked ROM (Cooked w/Olipro software)
http://uploadingit.com/files/8194/RUU_CINGULAR_2.06.502.3_1.27.00.00_SPL1.04.zip
Rom: 2.06.502.3
Radion version: 1.27
SPL: 1.04
Ext Rom: 2.06.502.3
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@wpbear
I used the cooked ROM RUU_CINGULAR_2.06.502.3_1.27.00.00_SPL1.04.zip for the upgrade. One question, I have SPL 1.06 before upgrading. Since the cooked ROM has 1.04 in it, I thought it would downgrade to 1.04. Instead, the SPL did not change. Why?
Same result, same question.
Why?
Where can I download this Rom?
Where can I download this Rom?
Download link doesn't work....
anubus12 said:
@wpbear
I used the cooked ROM RUU_CINGULAR_2.06.502.3_1.27.00.00_SPL1.04.zip for the upgrade. One question, I have SPL 1.06 before upgrading. Since the cooked ROM has 1.04 in it, I thought it would downgrade to 1.04. Instead, the SPL did not change. Why?
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Are you SuperCID with POf unlocker?
SuperCID/unlock yes. POF no.
Wiki and numberous posts indicate if the unit is SuperCID, it is SuperCID period however there is a v2 v2a and v3.
Is there more to SuperCID than just SuperCID?
Sometimes it sticks and sometimes it does not?
Can v3 be run over top of an existing SuperCID/unlocked unit without risk?
True you are either SuperCID or not, but we have seen people loose SuperCID for no apparent reason. Use mtty and check if you are still SuperCID.
Still superCID, still 1.06.
rvc said:
Still superCID, still 1.06.
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once you have superCID you can downgrade your bootloader by this http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_BootloaderMFG
just to dispel the myth;
SPL 1.01MFG Flashing via mtty is NOT faster than using the RUU; HTC do not deliberately slow down the process, that's just bloody stupid; the reason it can take longer is if you include a Radio ROM, because flashing a radio takes sodding ages, but can people please learn that using a proper NBH is a smarter and safer way to flash their Hermes.
I second that. this myth appeared because 1.01MFG was the first bootloader that allowed us to flash unsigned, but it didn't allow to flash a radio. So there was the general "feeling" that signature checking was slowing down the process, but it was not: the slowness is caused by flashing the radio.
True, but from strictly a ROM cooker perspective, its not faster. It takes time to build/run the RUU & when you're testing cooked roms, its just far easier to fire up the sspl 1.01MFG and lnb the new os.nb directly.
I understand safety to be the presence of BL v1.10.Oli at location 50020000.
Consequently, I keep this version flashed and test out cooked ideas (currently I'm working on the ATI video issue so I've been flashing a lot of test roms) using your 1.01MFG sspl bootloader.
Expanding on this, I believe that production cooked ROMs should include your 1.10.Oli SPL bootloader from a safety perspective based on my understanding that the BL is flashed first in the RUU under the control of the 1.09Des SSPL loader. This will guarantee a safety net should something go wrong during the OS and/or Radio flashing portion of the process. I would also imagine that this is why you state that RUU flashing is safer too.
Maybe this should be SOP whenever a new production ROM is released by Operators too: Repackage everything into a sspl that also loads 1.10.Oli. Of course, when HTC takes their inevitable next steps in this "spy vs. spy" battle, all this may be invalidated...
Here's an interesting thought: Your bootloader advancements have actually helped Operators since using this technique should result in far fewer bricks being returned for new devices. Now the question is this: does this cost HTC I wonder? Or to put it differently: who sucks up the cost of a bricked Hermes that is replaced in warranty. Whomever this is is very happy with you Olipro and likely to offer you a job as a top developer . Conversely, whomever sucks up the cost is gonna put a contract out on you....
JK: The fact is this: both have a contract on you b/c you've invalidated CID
When I run the RUU, I'll open the Windows Media Player to play the MP3 files, and the update process will be finished in 2-3 minutes.
I guess my major question is this:
At what time during the RUU flashing process is the bootloader flashed? If its the first thing to be flashed then my points above are valid. If not, then everybody who flashes needs to insure that they have 1.10.Oli in flash before stripping the bl out of any ROM they wish to flash. Perhaps we could begin to go through production ROMs and designate those that have had this done with another column on the Wiki.
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At what time during the RUU flashing process is the bootloader flashed?
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In the order it is placed on the NBH file, generally IPL & SPL are the first.
Sleuth255 said:
If its the first thing to be flashed then my points above are valid.
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Yes they are: the HardSPL is flashed but the process continues with the current bootloader on device... but after the flashing process ends (or fails) HardSPL is there, which lets you recover the bad flash because even if radio is b0rken the device is seen as SuperCID. Only those with radio bootloader 0108 will need to flash a hardSPL based on 1.09 to be able to recover, the rest will be fine with the one based in 1.04.
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HardSPL is there, which lets you recover the bad flash because even if radio is b0rken the device is seen as SuperCID. Only those with radio bootloader 0108 will need to flash a hardSPL based on 1.09 to be able to recover, the rest will be fine with the one based in 1.04.
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But there isn't a 1.09 hardSPl yet, no?
VivaErBetis said:
But there isn't a 1.09 hardSPl yet, no?
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no, but if someone manages to bork their radio AND can't get into the OS, then something can be done.
Olipro said:
no, but if someone manages to bork their radio AND can't get into the OS, then something can be done.
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I happen to be in this exact situation. Have bootloader 1.09 and a corrupt radio (which is why I tried to reflash and ended up with a brick). Any ideas?
/politby
politby said:
I happen to be in this exact situation. Have bootloader 1.09 and a corrupt radio (which is why I tried to reflash and ended up with a brick). Any ideas?
/politby
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no... not quite; you need a Hard-SPL bootloader first; or, you need to be able to boot Windows.
Olipro said:
no... not quite; you need a Hard-SPL bootloader first; or, you need to be able to boot Windows.
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that's what I thought. Any forecast on when (if) you'll have one available?
politby said:
that's what I thought. Any forecast on when (if) you'll have one available?
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no... I mean you either need to have flashed on a Hard-SPL before you buggered it up, or you need to be able to still get into Windows after buggering it
Olipro said:
no, but if someone manages to bork their radio AND can't get into the OS, then something can be done.
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But, will you publish a 1.09 Hard SPL? I will be a good protection measure for those who got the radio bootloader 0108 (like me ).
VivaErBetis said:
But, will you publish a 1.09 Hard SPL? I will be a good protection measure for those who got the radio bootloader 0108 (like me ).
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well, if you flash 1.04 and bugger up your radio, then of course I'll send you it to flash on, but since it's essentially Des's work, I'm leaving it to him to make his own formal release .
Olipro said:
well, if you flash 1.04 and bugger up your radio, then of course I'll send you it to flash on, but since it's essentially Des's work, I'm leaving it to him to make his own formal release .
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Ok. Fortunately I don't need it ***yet***. Thanks Olipro.
BTW: I got your 1.10 version installed and it works very well. Thanks.
Just wondering, Olipro, what chance of a bootloader version that IS actually 1.40Oli, but reports itself as, say, 1.04, or whatever, for those people that need to return their phones?
Seems that would never need to go back to original bootloader then?
Just a thought....
philg2000 said:
Just wondering, Olipro, what chance of a bootloader version that IS actually 1.40Oli, but reports itself as, say, 1.04, or whatever, for those people that need to return their phones?
Seems that would never need to go back to original bootloader then?
Just a thought....
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if you want to return your phone... use SSPL to flash 1.10 then flash 1.04 from 1.10
Olipro said:
if you want to return your phone... use SSPL to flash 1.10 then flash 1.04 from 1.10
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Yep - seems so simple when you say it like that.
It was just a thought, but thinking more about it, could be a bit of a knighmare..
"What version of bootloader do you have?"
Hmmm...
What I have now:
OS: Black 2.0 Cingular edition
Boot Loader: 1.01
Radio BL: 108
Radio: 1.38.10
what I want:
OS: WM 5 from the 1.34 cingular release
Boot Loader: Loader from the 1.34 cingular release
Radio BL: AFAIK you can't downgrade these so staying at 108
Radio: 1.16.00.00
How I plan to get there:
take the .nbh form the 1.34 cingular package and use RUU to flash the device.
Questions and concersion:
I'm looking for input on possible incompatabilities and hang-ups with varios BL versions and what not.
comments / feedback on my plan would be greatly appreciated and I will build a monument in your name if you help .
This has been covered before...
But, since you're well on your way to brick-ville, I'll buy your phone off you for, say, $100? It'll be worth less after you brick it...
Read up on the W*I*K*I and Oli's 1.40.Olipro bootloader before you do something dumb.
I did read it.
And thats the plan I came up with.
I was looking more for a confirmation.
The wiki has a ton of great info but its laid out reall crappy and not very cohesive. So I figured I'd post what I've came up with after reading it to see if I missed something. And from there maybe get more specific input on where the issues/dependencies are..... or maybe not.
spicer said:
I did read it.
And thats the plan I came up with.
I was looking more for a confirmation.
The wiki has a ton of great info but its laid out reall crappy and not very cohesive. So I figured I'd post what I've came up with after reading it to see if I missed something. And from there maybe get more specific input on where the issues/dependencies are..... or maybe not.
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From your plan it is obvious that, even IF you read the wiki, you didn't understand it. Re-read the THREADS about 1.40 SPL and also search for MRVANX and read his TUTORIALS...
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What I have now:
OS: Black 2.0 Cingular edition
Boot Loader: 1.01
Radio BL: 108
Radio: 1.38.10
what I want:
OS: WM 5 from the 1.34 cingular release
Boot Loader: Loader from the 1.34 cingular release
Radio BL: AFAIK you can't downgrade these so staying at 108
Radio: 1.16.00.00
How I plan to get there:
Flash to hardSPL-v6
Fash Radio to 1.16
flash OS i get out of the 1.134 package. (the os.nb file i believe it is named)
last flash the boot loader.
Questions and concersion:
I'm looking for input on possible incompatabilities and hang-ups with varios BL versions and what not.
comments / feedback on my plan would be greatly appreciated and I will build a monument in your name if you help .
LegolasTheElf said:
From your plan it is obvious that, even IF you read the wiki, you didn't understand it. Re-read the THREADS about 1.40 SPL and also search for MRVANX and read his TUTORIALS...
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I really appreciate the feedback. At least you're letting me know my plan wont work. Which will prevent me from trying it. But it would be kick ass if you could be more specific about what in the wiki i missed like :
-you can't flash the entire .nbh file cause it will try to replace your boot load and break it.
or
- Re-read the THREADS about 1.40 SPL because *something useful here*
Either way I'm still thankful cause I know my plan is a **** sandwich.
Very good.. You're getting there! It's nice to see someone read some directions..
You have it mostly right.. Flash the HardSPLv6 first. Then, grab the .nbh from the cingular rom and combine it with CustomRUU. Choose 'Autodetect' (we're looking for a hard-spl flash)..
Then, once that's done, you'll have the right radio, OS, splash, etc.. The only thing left would be to down-grade the bootloader, which I would advise against.. But, you can do it.. There is a seperate thread on HOW to do that, as it isn't just a one-step process.. Search and ye shall find.
Thank MAn!!! That kicks ass.
I need to send my phone back because the radio dies every 5 mintes.
So I want to get it as close to factory as possible.
So after I downgrade the BL i won't be doing anymore flashing to that phone.
Sometimes when I soft reset the phone is says "No GSM" even when sim is there. Soft reset it again and the radio is detected.
Very irritating.
Check out:
http://www.mrvanx.org/hermes_guide/
Flash HardSPL-1.40
Create NBH containing your provider's 2xSplashScreen + ExtROM + OS & flash it
Flash 1.16 radio
Flash-HardSPL-1.10
Flash your original IPL & SPL versions.
F-ya! That last part about down grading the BL is the part I was having trouble pinning down.
One last question:
Can I use the cingular NBH or will it try to flash the RBL and crash because you can't down grade the RBL
the the new mrvanx page is dope. found the donwgrade guide.
Bricked using this method
pof said:
Flash HardSPL-1.40
Create NBH containing your provider's 2xSplashScreen + ExtROM + OS & flash it
Flash 1.16 radio
Flash-HardSPL-1.10
Flash your original IPL & SPL versions.
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Pof,
I did it this way but after flashing the radio rom I get no GSM and then I'm stuck in the Windows Mobile Screen.
I have looked in the Wiki but how can I actually unbrick?
My SPL is still 1.40 Oli. But I can't get activesync to work.
Should I flash the new radio via SD card or any other way (mtty?)
I would be very gratefull for any help,
Cheers,
HJ
P.S. Found a solution; http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_UpgradeProblems#problem5
I will try to do this trick.
Thanks
@hellejoep: Try flashing your latest working radio again in NBH format.
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@hellejoep: Try flashing your latest working radio again in NBH format.
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Pof,
One question, Can I upgrade radio rom via mtty?
Or otherwise?
Cheers,
HJ
P.S. How can I Flash any radio in NBH format? While stuck in bootloader?
hellejoep said:
Can I upgrade radio rom via mtty?
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no
hellejoep said:
How can I Flash any radio in NBH format? While stuck in bootloader?
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Disable activesync, and use CustomRUU.
pof said:
Disable activesync, and use CustomRUU.
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Done that but then I get a Error 260.....
Any suggestions?
Or is there a way to bypass this? I have IPL 1.01 and SPL 1.40 Olipro.
I now got a Connection Error 264 but the bootloader gives usb and I can reach the hermes bij MTTY.exe.....
What is going wrong?
@hellejoep: close all programs including mtty before u run ruuwraper. Make sure you're using the latest version (v4.2) and activesync is not enabled.
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@hellejoep: close all programs including mtty before u run ruuwraper. Make sure you're using the latest version (v4.2) and activesync is not enabled.
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It worked, cheers!!!!!
LegolasTheElf said:
Very good.. You're getting there! It's nice to see someone read some directions..
You have it mostly right.. Flash the HardSPLv6 first. Then, grab the .nbh from the cingular rom and combine it with CustomRUU. Choose 'Autodetect' (we're looking for a hard-spl flash)..
Then, once that's done, you'll have the right radio, OS, splash, etc.. The only thing left would be to down-grade the bootloader, which I would advise against.. But, you can do it.. There is a seperate thread on HOW to do that, as it isn't just a one-step process.. Search and ye shall find.
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@LegolasTheElf,
This was great example on how to get people to read the wiki. I like your approach and I will try to use it in the future.
If possible could someone instruct me on how to downgrade the SPL on hd2 from 2.10 to 1.42? Also, i've been having trouble with changing the radio.
Hi,
You can downgrade your SPL by installing an older stock ROM with the SPL version you require.
As for changing your radio, what exactly is the 'trouble'? You should just be able to flash it the same as you flash your ROM's (check The Leo Radio Thread for different radio versions), or you could task29 your phone and use the radio .nbh file instead of the blank one that comes shipped with task29.
Hope this helps
jwchips
kipe222 said:
If possible could someone instruct me on how to downgrade the SPL on hd2 from 2.10 to 1.42? Also, i've been having trouble with changing the radio.
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You cant. Your spl being 2.10.0000 tells us that you have a tmous phone, so you cannot use any 1.x spl versions.
This is also why you cant change radio, , ,because you dont have hspl installed.
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You can downgrade your SPL by installing an older stock ROM with the SPL version you require.
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DO NOT follow the above advice to flash an older rom from sd card, it WILL brick your phone.
What are you trying to do? if you are wanting to downgrade so you can flash roms and radios, use hspl3, and choose 2.08.hspl
samsamuel said:
You cant.
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What are you trying to do? if you are wanting to downgrade so you can flash roms and radios, use hspl3, and choose 2.08.hspl
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This counts as a downgrade in my book (not the one he wants, but still.....)
Or am I missing something?
heh, the point was the op wanted to downgrade from a stock to a stock that wouldn't work. had he followed your post he would have rushed off to find a stock 1.43 rom because it includes 1.42 spl, flashed it, and would have a brick now.
i wasn't saying your post was wrong, just that it wasn't clear enough considering the phone is a tmous.
wassuntme
samsamuel said:
heh, the point was the op wanted to downgrade from a stock to a stock that wouldn't work. had he followed your post [....]would have a brick now.
i wasn't saying your post was wrong, just that it wasn't clear enough considering the phone is a tmous.
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Sorry, that was not my post!!, it was jwchips.
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Still I notice a lot of people trying flashing without having a clue as to what they are doing.
They Flash ROM sometimes more easy than installing a program, like there is no risk.
What worries me more: People are even advising to Flash stating there is no risk at all
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oh yea, my apologies, shame on my eyesight! heh.
Still I notice a lot of people trying flashing without having a clue as to what they are doing.
They Flash ROM sometimes more easy than installing a program, like there is no risk.
What worries me more: People are even advising to Flash stating there is no risk at all
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couldnt agree more. The HD2 is probably one of the safest phones to flash that ive ever come across (excluding the tmous, cos it has a built in kill switch, hehe) but yet every day there are examples of people getting their phone, coming straight here and flashign eth first rom they can find, with no reading, no understanding, no preparation, nothing.
Damn the spoon feeding culture, teaching our kids to 'dont think, just do'