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OK, I've read the wiki and various FAQs on the topic. I am basically looking for confirmation on my plan as I have never done anything like this before. I don't want to see sparks flying out of my 8525 after trying to upgrade.
I have the 1.16 Radio and 1.34 ROM currently and I want to get to 1.34 radio, 2.06 ROM, 3.3 AKU. I think my procedure should be to:
1. perform the CID/SIM unlocker v3 per http://forum.xdadevelopers.com/showthread.php?t=293665
2. Install the latest ROM per:
http://rapidshare.com/files/18315008/RUU_HER_CINGULAR_2.06.502.3_1.34.00.10_SPL1.04.exe which should update the ROM and radio.
And I believe all of this is able to be done without downgrading to boot loader 1.04.
Thanks for the help.
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OK, I've read the wiki and various FAQs on the topic. I am basically looking for confirmation on my plan as I have never done anything like this before. I don't want to see sparks flying out of my 8525 after trying to upgrade.
I have the 1.16 Radio and 1.34 ROM currently and I want to get to 1.34 radio, 2.06 ROM, 3.3 AKU. I think my procedure should be to:
1. perform the CID/SIM unlocker v3 per http://forum.xdadevelopers.com/showthread.php?t=293665
2. Install the latest ROM per:
http://rapidshare.com/files/18315008/RUU_HER_CINGULAR_2.06.502.3_1.34.00.10_SPL1.04.exe which should update the ROM and radio.
And I believe all of this is able to be done without downgrading to boot loader 1.04.
Thanks for the help.
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You dont have too SuperCID but I would. That ROM will not downgrade your BL to 1.04. You BL will stay the same or become 1.04 if you happen to have something lower, which I doubt.
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Your BL will stay the same or become 1.04 if you happen to have something lower, which I doubt.
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Are you saying it won't downgrade the BL regardless of the SuperCID status, or depending on which BL it currently has?
@pstritt: Based on the other info you provided, I'm guessing you must have SPL 1.06. You should be able to flash that ROM without going SuperCID first, as I've done so myself. My SPL remained 1.06 (why it did being contingent upon the answer to the question above).
Really no reason to SuperCID anymore...
Just run the Cingular rom in the wiki as your first step. Second step is to run Oli's 1.10.Oli Bootloader.
So...
1) http://rapidshare.com/files/18315008/RUU_HER_CINGULAR_2.06.502.3_1.34.00.10_SPL1.04.exe
2) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=296722
AND, if you want to be able to edit your ExtRom, see this:
3) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=297085
Done.
Nothing else needed anymore
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Really no reason to SuperCID anymore...
Just run the Cingular rom in the wiki as your first step. Second step is to run Oli's 1.10.Oli Bootloader.
So...
1) http://rapidshare.com/files/18315008/RUU_HER_CINGULAR_2.06.502.3_1.34.00.10_SPL1.04.exe
2) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=296722
AND, if you want to be able to edit your ExtRom, see this:
3) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=297085
Done.
Nothing else needed anymore
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What if you wanted to go back to an earlier radio, just the radio?
LegolasTheElf said:
Really no reason to SuperCID anymore...
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Yes, I must agree. Looks like I got my Hermes at just the right time!
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What if you wanted to go back to an earlier radio, just the radio?
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Most of the links for radio only use Des' SSPL, so, SuperCID isn't needed. In fact, you don't even need to worry about having the appropriate BL either as Des' BL uses 1.09 to flash radios, even the 0108...
So, grab the packed RUU and run. Done.
If you aren't SuperCIDing your device, you **REALLY** should install the Oli BL; reason is that if there is a bad radio flash, it will save you in a VERY big way! Highly recommended to do it before you start mucking around too much with radios/os/etc...
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If you aren't SuperCIDing your device, you **REALLY** should install the Oli BL; reason is that if there is a bad radio flash, it will save you in a VERY big way! Highly recommended to do it before you start mucking around too much with radios/os/etc...
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Here again, I wholeheartedly agree. Until 1.10.Oli came about the light never went on with me as to the hidden benefits of SuperCID/1.04, despite that fact I had no burning desire to flash cross-CID or "generic" ROMs (...yet!).
Now I understand that it'll give you the ability to manuever in the BL if you happen to hose your radio, etc.
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If you aren't SuperCIDing your device, you **REALLY** should install the Oli BL; reason is that if there is a bad radio flash, it will save you in a VERY big way! Highly recommended to do it before you start mucking around too much with radios/os/etc...
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I've been keeping up with that thread, read alot of the wiki, but still can't seem to wrap myself around all the info I've taken in. I think I'm starting to get it some now. All's I've done so far is upgrade my official ROM with AKU 3.3 so now I have bl 1.09 and I'm still not ready to flash with WM6, but in the meantime I do want to upgrade my radio from 1.33 to 1.35 but still have the option to drop back if I wanted to.
PhonePhun said:
I have bl 1.09
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Install Oli's BootLoader BEFORE YOU DO ANYTHING ELSE! Unless of course you want to risk a brick?
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Install Oli's BootLoader BEFORE YOU DO ANYTHING ELSE! Unless of course you want to risk a brick?
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Definitly don't want to brick it. Thanks for the advice, anything else I should know? Do I use Oli's BL in your sig, since there are 2 available?
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Install Oli's BootLoader BEFORE YOU DO ANYTHING ELSE!
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Done deal. Took maybe a minute to load and blam... "SuperCID".
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Definitly don't want to brick it. Thanks for the advice, anything else I should know? Do I use Oli's BL in your sig, since there are 2 available?
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no, enter the thread, there's only one available; the 1.01 stuff is only available as NB files and you have to know what you're doing to flash those whereas 1.10 is available as an RUU update that you can run on your computer to flash; that's the one you want
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Definitly don't want to brick it. Thanks for the advice, anything else I should know? Do I use Oli's BL in your sig, since there are 2 available?
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Stick to running the installer (ROMUpgradeUt.exe) to flash the 1.04-based version unless you really know what you're doing. Olipro left his 1.01-based version as .nb's for this very reason.
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Hi, I'm new of the forum, I would want to know how to show the version of the ExtROM in “Device Information” with version 0.20 of XDA Live. Thanks a lot for the answer.
just to dispel the myth;
SPL 1.01MFG Flashing via mtty is NOT faster than using the RUU; HTC do not deliberately slow down the process, that's just bloody stupid; the reason it can take longer is if you include a Radio ROM, because flashing a radio takes sodding ages, but can people please learn that using a proper NBH is a smarter and safer way to flash their Hermes.
I second that. this myth appeared because 1.01MFG was the first bootloader that allowed us to flash unsigned, but it didn't allow to flash a radio. So there was the general "feeling" that signature checking was slowing down the process, but it was not: the slowness is caused by flashing the radio.
True, but from strictly a ROM cooker perspective, its not faster. It takes time to build/run the RUU & when you're testing cooked roms, its just far easier to fire up the sspl 1.01MFG and lnb the new os.nb directly.
I understand safety to be the presence of BL v1.10.Oli at location 50020000.
Consequently, I keep this version flashed and test out cooked ideas (currently I'm working on the ATI video issue so I've been flashing a lot of test roms) using your 1.01MFG sspl bootloader.
Expanding on this, I believe that production cooked ROMs should include your 1.10.Oli SPL bootloader from a safety perspective based on my understanding that the BL is flashed first in the RUU under the control of the 1.09Des SSPL loader. This will guarantee a safety net should something go wrong during the OS and/or Radio flashing portion of the process. I would also imagine that this is why you state that RUU flashing is safer too.
Maybe this should be SOP whenever a new production ROM is released by Operators too: Repackage everything into a sspl that also loads 1.10.Oli. Of course, when HTC takes their inevitable next steps in this "spy vs. spy" battle, all this may be invalidated...
Here's an interesting thought: Your bootloader advancements have actually helped Operators since using this technique should result in far fewer bricks being returned for new devices. Now the question is this: does this cost HTC I wonder? Or to put it differently: who sucks up the cost of a bricked Hermes that is replaced in warranty. Whomever this is is very happy with you Olipro and likely to offer you a job as a top developer . Conversely, whomever sucks up the cost is gonna put a contract out on you....
JK: The fact is this: both have a contract on you b/c you've invalidated CID
When I run the RUU, I'll open the Windows Media Player to play the MP3 files, and the update process will be finished in 2-3 minutes.
I guess my major question is this:
At what time during the RUU flashing process is the bootloader flashed? If its the first thing to be flashed then my points above are valid. If not, then everybody who flashes needs to insure that they have 1.10.Oli in flash before stripping the bl out of any ROM they wish to flash. Perhaps we could begin to go through production ROMs and designate those that have had this done with another column on the Wiki.
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At what time during the RUU flashing process is the bootloader flashed?
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In the order it is placed on the NBH file, generally IPL & SPL are the first.
Sleuth255 said:
If its the first thing to be flashed then my points above are valid.
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Yes they are: the HardSPL is flashed but the process continues with the current bootloader on device... but after the flashing process ends (or fails) HardSPL is there, which lets you recover the bad flash because even if radio is b0rken the device is seen as SuperCID. Only those with radio bootloader 0108 will need to flash a hardSPL based on 1.09 to be able to recover, the rest will be fine with the one based in 1.04.
pof said:
HardSPL is there, which lets you recover the bad flash because even if radio is b0rken the device is seen as SuperCID. Only those with radio bootloader 0108 will need to flash a hardSPL based on 1.09 to be able to recover, the rest will be fine with the one based in 1.04.
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But there isn't a 1.09 hardSPl yet, no?
VivaErBetis said:
But there isn't a 1.09 hardSPl yet, no?
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no, but if someone manages to bork their radio AND can't get into the OS, then something can be done.
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no, but if someone manages to bork their radio AND can't get into the OS, then something can be done.
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I happen to be in this exact situation. Have bootloader 1.09 and a corrupt radio (which is why I tried to reflash and ended up with a brick). Any ideas?
/politby
politby said:
I happen to be in this exact situation. Have bootloader 1.09 and a corrupt radio (which is why I tried to reflash and ended up with a brick). Any ideas?
/politby
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no... not quite; you need a Hard-SPL bootloader first; or, you need to be able to boot Windows.
Olipro said:
no... not quite; you need a Hard-SPL bootloader first; or, you need to be able to boot Windows.
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that's what I thought. Any forecast on when (if) you'll have one available?
politby said:
that's what I thought. Any forecast on when (if) you'll have one available?
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no... I mean you either need to have flashed on a Hard-SPL before you buggered it up, or you need to be able to still get into Windows after buggering it
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no, but if someone manages to bork their radio AND can't get into the OS, then something can be done.
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But, will you publish a 1.09 Hard SPL? I will be a good protection measure for those who got the radio bootloader 0108 (like me ).
VivaErBetis said:
But, will you publish a 1.09 Hard SPL? I will be a good protection measure for those who got the radio bootloader 0108 (like me ).
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well, if you flash 1.04 and bugger up your radio, then of course I'll send you it to flash on, but since it's essentially Des's work, I'm leaving it to him to make his own formal release .
Olipro said:
well, if you flash 1.04 and bugger up your radio, then of course I'll send you it to flash on, but since it's essentially Des's work, I'm leaving it to him to make his own formal release .
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Ok. Fortunately I don't need it ***yet***. Thanks Olipro.
BTW: I got your 1.10 version installed and it works very well. Thanks.
I saw something here about this from azclown and really want to know if it is true.
After flashing nueSPL is it possible to downgrade to other bootloaders?
I tried to run unlocker (Olipro 1.20) and it wouldn't connect right. Do I need to use relocker then load 1.20 then load stock rom. I am testing this out for another phone right now and am a little curious why this would be created so that no other bootloaders could be reloaded.
What I am realizing is that this bootloader is not such a good idea for Verizon users, being that they will not be able to revert to the stock rom (as Verizon has not released a GPS Rom yet).
Am I right here?
serfboreds said:
I saw something here about this from azclown and really want to know if it is true.
After flashing nueSPL is it possible to downgrade to other bootloaders?
I tried to run unlocker (Olipro 1.20) and it wouldn't connect right. Do I need to use relocker then load 1.20 then load stock rom. I am testing this out for another phone right now and am a little curious why this would be created so that no other bootloaders could be reloaded.
What I am realizing is that this bootloader is not such a good idea for Verizon users, being that they will not be able to revert to the stock rom (as Verizon has not released a GPS Rom yet).
Am I right here?
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um, DO NOT attempt to DOWNGRADE your SPL unless you want a permanent brick.
reasoning:
ALL ATTEMPTS whatsoever to downgrade the radio to a pre-GPS radio have F-A-I-L-E-D. They have all resulted in BROKEN BRICKED IRREPARABLE devices.
1.xx SPLS are not (at least that i'm aware of, compatible with GPS radios)
therefore, you cannot downgrade your radio to 1.xx.
You can downgrade to olipro-2.40, but thats pretty much it. Unless your device is SuperCID, i would NOT ADVISE locking your device, because you will only be able to download updates signed by VZW, and as we all know - there are none.
If warranty is a concern,... it would be better to turn in a complete brick than a partial brick. flash a modified VZW OS Only with proper OEMDRIVERS, then run my relocker and lock the SPL down, then warranty it. /... I wouldn't suggest this for anything else, because in case of a bad OS flash, you'd be pretty screwed...
Thanks for chiming in on this no2chem, there's a lot of good information in that post!
no2chem said:
um, DO NOT attempt to DOWNGRADE your SPL unless you want a permanent brick.
reasoning:
ALL ATTEMPTS whatsoever to downgrade the radio to a pre-GPS radio have F-A-I-L-E-D. They have all resulted in BROKEN BRICKED IRREPARABLE devices.
1.xx SPLS are not (at least that i'm aware of, compatible with GPS radios)
therefore, you cannot downgrade your radio to 1.xx.
You can downgrade to olipro-2.40, but thats pretty much it. Unless your device is SuperCID, i would NOT ADVISE locking your device, because you will only be able to download updates signed by VZW, and as we all know - there are none.
If warranty is a concern,... it would be better to turn in a complete brick than a partial brick. flash a modified VZW OS Only with proper OEMDRIVERS, then run my relocker and lock the SPL down, then warranty it. /... I wouldn't suggest this for anything else, because in case of a bad OS flash, you'd be pretty screwed...
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True, I see your point about returning a complete brick. The rest is fine I guess.
Thanks!
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ALL ATTEMPTS whatsoever to downgrade the radio to a pre-GPS radio have F-A-I-L-E-D. They have all resulted in BROKEN BRICKED IRREPARABLE devices.
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now, by that do you mean they werere were bricked by downgrading the radio with nueSPL previously (or currently) loaded on the device, or downgrading the radio on a device that never had nueSPL loaded on it?
the only reason i ask this is because ive done several radio downgrades from olipro 2.4 to 1.2 to the stock radio/ROMs for refurbishment and ive never had a problem. i dont use the stock SPL because theres no tech around here smart enough to check it.
no2chem said:
um, DO NOT attempt to DOWNGRADE your SPL unless you want a permanent brick.
reasoning:
ALL ATTEMPTS whatsoever to downgrade the radio to a pre-GPS radio have F-A-I-L-E-D. They have all resulted in BROKEN BRICKED IRREPARABLE devices.
1.xx SPLS are not (at least that i'm aware of, compatible with GPS radios)
therefore, you cannot downgrade your radio to 1.xx.
You can downgrade to olipro-2.40, but thats pretty much it. Unless your device is SuperCID, i would NOT ADVISE locking your device, because you will only be able to download updates signed by VZW, and as we all know - there are none.
If warranty is a concern,... it would be better to turn in a complete brick than a partial brick. flash a modified VZW OS Only with proper OEMDRIVERS, then run my relocker and lock the SPL down, then warranty it. /... I wouldn't suggest this for anything else, because in case of a bad OS flash, you'd be pretty screwed...
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No2chem.. I think I am an exception or my XV6800 must be special because I actually messed up my phone because i wanted the new Radio 3.42.02 but couldn't get my Phone to Flash From SD.. So I had to flash a sprint 3.56 ROM to get the Radio and then flashed Verizon kitchen before Sprint customization started.. but for some weird reason.. Sprint customization still ran after i flash the Verizon ROM.. My EPST Settings were all Sprint.. lols..
These are the steps I took to bring it back..
1. Ran Titan_Relocker to relock SPL from version 2.40 Olipro
2. Flashed Stock Verizon ROM and let Verizon Customization run
3. Unlock using NueSPL2.47 letting it format my SD card to enable Flashing from SD [Thank GOD you added this feature]
4. Placed the new Radio 3.42.30 onto my SD card and enter Bootloader and Flashed it [Thanks to You]
5. then flashed my Verizon kitchen.. All with no problem..
I've discussed this method with some of the guys over at PPCKitchen.org and they were concerned about me bricking my phone.. but I said oh what the heck.. my phone is already messed up..
every one was supprised that it worked.. lol.. I must be one of the lucky few..
b16daddy said:
No2chem.. I think I am an exception or my XV6800 must be special because I actually messed up my phone because i wanted the new Radio 3.42.02 but couldn't get my Phone to Flash From SD.. So I had to flash a sprint 3.56 ROM to get the Radio and then flashed Verizon kitchen before Sprint customization started.. but for some weird reason.. Sprint customization still ran after i flash the Verizon ROM.. My EPST Settings were all Sprint.. lols..
These are the steps I took to bring it back..
1. Ran Titan_Relocker to relock SPL from version 2.40 Olipro
2. Flashed Stock Verizon ROM and let Verizon Customization run
3. Unlock using NueSPL2.47 letting it format my SD card to enable Flashing from SD [Thank GOD you added this feature]
4. Placed the new Radio 3.42.30 onto my SD card and enter Bootloader and Flashed it [Thanks to You]
5. then flashed my Verizon kitchen.. All with no problem..
I've discussed this method with some of the guys over at PPCKitchen.org and they were concerned about me bricking my phone.. but I said oh what the heck.. my phone is already messed up..
every one was supprised that it worked.. lol.. I must be one of the lucky few..
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weird. what were you running before step 1?
the problem seems to manifest itself when you take a GPS radio, and flash a 2.xx RADIO onto it. When you flashed the verizon stock rom, are you sure you had the 2.xx radio on it?
the reason everyone was concerned about your phone though, was because there were several bricks produced by downgrading radios - ask ImCokeMan, he'll tell you..
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weird. what were you running before step 1?
the problem seems to manifest itself when you take a GPS radio, and flash a 2.xx RADIO onto it. When you flashed the verizon stock rom, are you sure you had the 2.xx radio on it?
the reason everyone was concerned about your phone though, was because there were several bricks produced by downgrading radios - ask ImCokeMan, he'll tell you..
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I didn't quite understand your question..
"When you flashed the verizon stock rom, are you sure you had the 2.xx radio on it?"
When I ran Titan_Relocker.. it installed version 1.06..
Before the Sprint radio upgrade I had...
Hard SPL2.40 Olipro
Radio 3.39.10
No2chem wm6.1 5067 Kitchen
I have also went from a GPS radio to the stock verizon radio/rom a few times because of accidentally letting sprint customizations run.
i am not 100% sure if i had the stock radio on my phone. however it worked with stock verizon rom and phone/ data/ text all worked in stock verizon rom/radio.... so i assume it was the correct radio since it worked with the stock rom...?
EDIT: i do believe i had verizon 1.3 radio on my phone after flashing back from a GPS radio
also i remember reading somewhere that if you do flash back to a stock radio/ rom that it might say stock radio but it will still have components of the gps radio's... i think i read it at ppcgeeks
aguas said:
ive done several radio downgrades from olipro 2.4 to 1.2 to the stock radio/ROMs for refurbishment and ive never had a problem. i dont use the stock SPL because theres no tech around here smart enough to check it.
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i also have downgraded radio from 3.xx to 1.xx without any problems.
I flashed back to non gps as well. I was having bad experiences with dcd's 2.x so I went to his 1.7. No issues flashing at all.
I have also downgraded to 2 different phones from GPS radios to NON-GPS radios.... Verizons stock radio is 1.30, not a 2.x radio, so that may be the issue for some other folks on different carriers.... It may be an incompatibility with 2.x radios and GPS radios.... I have a folder on my desktop that has all the files necessary AND the instructions clearly written out on how to downgrade..... It has saved my butt 2 times now....
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I have also downgraded to 2 different phones from GPS radios to NON-GPS radios.... Verizons stock radio is 1.30, not a 2.x radio, so that may be the issue for some other folks on different carriers.... It may be an incompatibility with 2.x radios and GPS radios.... I have a folder on my desktop that has all the files necessary AND the instructions clearly written out on how to downgrade..... It has saved my butt 2 times now....
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hmm, it might actually be an issue with 2.X radios. I'll do a little bit of research on this one.
no2chem said:
hmm, it might actually be an issue with 2.X radios. I'll do a little bit of research on this one.
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the radio i downgraded to was 1.59
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um, DO NOT attempt to DOWNGRADE your SPL unless you want a permanent brick.
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Ya I used to switch from gps to nongps all the time back when the original leaked radio was the only one out... I also converted my last phone (sent in for broken button) back to complete stock vzw (locked and all) as well....
I haven't tried doing any downgrading after installing nueSPL though... are you indicating this is a probelm after flashing nueSPL? Your post has me a 'lil scared now but I'll wait for followups before I attempt anything.. no plans to go back to nongps anyways, though... the new radios seem to have the bugs worked out.
Zenoran said:
Ya I used to switch from gps to nongps all the time back when the original leaked radio was the only one out... I also converted my last phone (sent in for broken button) back to complete stock vzw (locked and all) as well....
I haven't tried doing any downgrading after installing nueSPL though... are you indicating this is a probelm after flashing nueSPL? Your post has me a 'lil scared now but I'll wait for followups before I attempt anything.. no plans to go back to nongps anyways, though... the new radios seem to have the bugs worked out.
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Only No2chem knows for sure, but after reading his post again I think he's saying you can downgrade to Ollipro 2.4, if thats the case then one should be able to downgrade back to stock as well....
I think no2 is onto something here. I am on VZW also and have gone back to stock from a 3.xx gps radio --> stock 1.30 radio.
I have a feeling that for once we may be glad that verizon never does any updates - they still use 1.30 radio - and that may be the common thread in all our (vzw) success at going back to non gps.
I'd say that I was onto this before him.... He just knows how to verify it...
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I'd say that I was onto this before him.... He just knows how to verify it...
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and i would agree with you!
Speaking of the man himself ^^^^ .. I would note that you had all the data, I just thought it was odd that anyone who tried to go back to a 2.X radio would brick it, while us verizon folks would go back to 1.X and have no issues....
Due to display flickering issue which is worse and worse from day to day. I decided to restore stock rom for my T-Mobile MDA Vario IV to make a complain.
My device is Security Unlocked, with different Radio and ROM so i would like to know if my steps for reverting is ok. I do not want to make my device bricked!!
I have EXE file with ROM from T-Mobile www which includes all like SPL, RADIO, ROM etc.
So my conclusion what i have read is that i have to:
1) restore stock Radio
2) remove security lock
3) remove Hard-SPL
4) flash stock ROM from EXE file i have already downloaded. It will overwrite 1.90 SPL to 1.69 which was my default and overwrite ROM too.
Can anyone experienced with this stuff tell me if i am right? thank a lot.
With the steps you have listed you will be good to go. Just follow your steps and you are good.
tvaril said:
Due to display flickering issue which is worse and worse from day to day. I decided to restore stock rom for my T-Mobile MDA Vario IV to make a complain.
My device is Security Unlocked, with different Radio and ROM so i would like to know if my steps for reverting is ok. I do not want to make my device bricked!!
I have EXE file with ROM from T-Mobile www which includes all like SPL, RADIO, ROM etc.
So my conclusion what i have read is that i have to:
1) restore stock Radio
2) remove security lock
3) remove Hard-SPL
4) flash stock ROM from EXE file i have already downloaded. It will overwrite 1.90 SPL to 1.69 which was my default and overwrite ROM too.
Can anyone experienced with this stuff tell me if i am right? thank a lot.
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Noo i think this is wrong. Flash the stock rom first, then the stock radio, and lastly the stock SPL.....
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Noo i think this is wrong. Flash the stock rom first, then the stock radio, and lastly the stock SPL.....
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the last thing you flash should be the spl
read this before doing anything
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=410150
Noo i think this is wrong. Flash the stock rom first, then the stock radio, and lastly the stock SPL.....
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the last thing you flash should be the spl
read this before doing anything
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=410150
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I am not a noob i have read this many times, so i know what is the "official" routine. But this (official) routine was, i think made, for people who had no choice (as me with original exe) and they had to dump their ROM first, and than reconstruct part by part. And because the dumped ROM will never be CID safe, they had this tutorial 1. Radio, 2. OS, 3. SPL and it rally does make sense for me.
But i am lucky, because my operator (T-Mobile) shipped the device with EXE, which contains all the stuff (Radio, SPL, OS, RUU) and it is directly for my CID. So that is why i think my tutorial in the first post will work. And i think it should work though if i only remove Security unlock and Hard-SPL. Because it will overwrite all partitions in device even restored Radio, OS etc.
So am i right ?
your right and to save you step dont worry bout radio removal since its in the stock rom pack like u said just load the 1.90 for warrenty in the hard spl thread and relock your phone as an extra precation(some carriers care some dont) the run the exe and ure golden
ps. PimBackup is your friend (just in case u forgot)
m0nkeyf00t said:
your right and to save you step dont worry bout radio removal since its in the stock rom pack like u said just load the 1.90 for warrenty in the hard spl thread and relock your phone as an extra precation(some carriers care some dont) the run the exe and ure golden
ps. PimBackup is your friend (just in case u forgot)
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Maybe SPB Backup is my better friend than PIM Backup. But i always use both and Microsoft My Phone too Thanks
tvaril said:
I am not a noob i have read this many times, so i know what is the "official" routine. But this (official) routine was, i think made, for people who had no choice (as me with original exe) and they had to dump their ROM first, and than reconstruct part by part. And because the dumped ROM will never be CID safe, they had this tutorial 1. Radio, 2. OS, 3. SPL and it rally does make sense for me.
But i am lucky, because my operator (T-Mobile) shipped the device with EXE, which contains all the stuff (Radio, SPL, OS, RUU) and it is directly for my CID. So that is why i think my tutorial in the first post will work. And i think it should work though if i only remove Security unlock and Hard-SPL. Because it will overwrite all partitions in device even restored Radio, OS etc.
So am i right ?
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Dear not a noob,
You asked a question, and you were given the "official" routine. If you knew the "official" routine, and you were going to do it your way anyway, it kinda makes your question unnecessary. I remind you that you are not the only person who reads these forums. In fact more than a hundred have read this thread. Some of these people "noobs" or not may want to know the "official" routine.
I personally don't care what you do or where you put your phone. But if anyone reading this thread follows the official routine they will not have any problems.
I understand why people don't like answering questions in these forums. No good deed etc etc......
Ray
rayrayinfla said:
Dear not a noob,
You asked a question, and you were given the "official" routine. If you knew the "official" routine, and you were going to do it your way anyway, it kinda makes your question unnecessary. I remind you that you are not the only person who reads these forums. In fact more than a hundred have read this thread. Some of these people "noobs" or not may want to know the "official" routine.
I personally don't care what you do or where you put your phone. But if anyone reading this thread follows the official routine they will not have any problems.
I understand why people don't like answering questions in these forums. No good deed etc etc......
Ray
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Dear Ray,
you did not understand my question. That is all that i can say about it. I know about official routine to restoring stock defaults, but i was asking if my routine could lead me to same result. Because as from what i have learned in this forum this routine should lead me to the same result more easier way because i have RUU with stock ROM direct for my CID.
Your way i have to first extract nbh image from exe. Second i have to extract each nb from nbh. Third i have to make nbh from each nb, radio is not necessary, because it is already here. And for fourth my SPL is 1.69.0000 which is different from SPL contained in the Hard-SPL removing pack and it does not work for me just to replace the SPLs. And until now i did not find out why. Someone few months ago told me that i can use the SPL from Hard-SPL removing pack (1.90.0000 i think) and then overwrite it with my stock ROM package, which will restore my stock SPL and Radio, OS again as well. So official routine works for those who had to dump their ROM to backup their stock ROM, those who were not as lucky as me to have stock ROM with RUU for their CID. This procedure, i personaly think is OK, is not covered here on the forum, and that is why i was aking for blessing from someone more involved in this problmes...is it ok now?
PS: anything i can flash after removing Security Lock and Hard-SPL is my stock ROM and that is what i have. So it should work if there are not some any other things which i have missed somewhere!
Tom
bah dont worry bout them crackheads say i can speak from experience that your way work since thats exactly what i did last week only att exe pack and it did overite the 1.90 stock spl,changed to 1.95 in my case,like u say along with the radio and os. only diferance is i never security unlocked my phone sincei was happy with the raphel radios . now im happy with my new(well refurblished ) fuze.
p.s. i had defective screen too incase you were wondering
Everybody play nice
Ok, that being said, since you have the "official" exe from your Carrier, all you really have to do is:
Run the .exe from your Carrier - this will replace the stock Radio, ROM, and boot splash.
Install the warranty stock SPL 1.90 from the Hard-SPL thread (using the Hard-SPL RUU, of course).
Re-run the .exe from your Carrier, which will overwrite the 1.90 SPL with the stock version.
Other methods will likely work too, but IMHO, that's the easiest .
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Ok, that being said, since you have the "official" exe from your Carrier, all you really have to do is:
Run the .exe from your Carrier - this will replace the stock Radio, ROM, and boot splash.
Install the warranty stock SPL 1.90 from the Hard-SPL thread (using the Hard-SPL RUU, of course).
Re-run the .exe from your Carrier, which will overwrite the 1.90 SPL with the stock version.
Other methods will likely work too, but IMHO, that's the easiest .
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Are you sure that running EXE for the first time, before removing Hard-SPL, will not corupt the device ?
tvaril said:
Are you sure that running EXE for the first time, before removing Hard-SPL, will not corupt the device ?
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Positive. That's actually how I used to "flash to stock" in between custom ROM flashes.
Fellas,
2 questions about hspl and sspl,
1- It is said that HSPL can be removed from the phone right after the flashing is complete. Does the removal of the HSPL necessarily result in the ROM on the phone also getting removed/returning to its former version? I mean, is there any way to remove ONLY the hspl and actually keep the ROM new version that has been just flashed by the hspl?
2- After utilising SSPL for flashing a phone, the word “hspl” obviously will not be seen in the bootloader. I wonder if there is any way to find out if a phone has been sspl’d ( of course if the phone is flashed with a stock rom, not a cooked rom! )
Thank you
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Fellas,
2 questions about hspl and sspl,
1- It is bee said that HSPL can be removed from the phone just after the flashing is complete. Does the removal of the HSPL necessarily result in the ROM on the phone also getting removed/returning to its former version? I mean, is there any way to remove ONLY the hspl and actually keep the ROM new version that has been just flashed by the hspl?
2- After utilising SSPL for flashing a phone, the word “hspl” obviously will not be seen in the bootloader. I wonder if there is any other way to find out if a phone has been sspl’d ( of course if the phone is flashed with a stock rom, not a cooked rom!)
Thank you
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i think you can remove the hspl with leaving any affects on flashed rom.
mon_money said:
i think you can remove the hspl with leaving any affects on flashed rom.
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Hey, thanks for the reply.
Is this what you are advising? >> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=623402
hspl yes you can remove hspl immediately and the rom will work fine.
sspl during the flash if you watch carefully when the phone enters bootloader, your spl changes to 1.42.6666
as soon as the phone restarts after the flash, your spl is back to what it was, no trace.
samsamuel said:
hspl yes you can remove hspl immediately and the rom will work fine.
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Is it the way of going about this?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=623402
or does the above mentioned remove hslp AND AT THE SAME TIME change the ROM as well?
samsamuel said:
as soon as the phone restarts after the flash, your spl is back to what it was, no trace.
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I have heard that RADIO doesn't change during sspl, is that correct? But I guess if someone sspl the phone with the same ROM version (only different in language, like when someone changes his CHN 3.14.xxx rom into WWE 3.14.xx), then the radio version will also ok and will leave no trace... right?
Thank buddy
Why do you keep posting questions in the 'Rom Development' pages? Carry on with your moans and groans in the proper Q&A pages and stop cluttering these pages even more with your inane drivel.
If I were the poor seller, who sold you the HD2, I would have shot myself by now!!
p.s. The information you need is here if you need guidance: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=713942
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Is it the way of going about this?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=623402
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well that will remove it, but will wipe your rom, meaning you will be back to a stock rom.
run hspl2.exe and choose 1.66.0000 or 2.08.0000 or 1.42.0000, thats it, hspl gone.
or does the above mentioned remove hslp AND AT THE SAME TIME change the ROM as well?
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correct, that only works with your stock rom.
I have heard that RADIO doesn't change during sspl, is that correct? But I guess if someone sspl the phone with the same ROM version (only different in language, like when someone changes his CHN 3.14.xxx rom into WWE 3.14.xx), then the radio version will also ok and will leave no trace... right?
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sspl cannot be used to flash radios, in teh way that hspl allows it, but im not really sure how it handles stock roms that include radios. The radio in teh twio roms you mentioned is identical/almost identical anyway, so it doesn't matter.
if its warranty you are worried about, its the hspl bit you should worry about, the rom and radio doesn't seem to matter.
Prozac69 said:
Why do you keep posting questions in the 'Rom Development' pages? Carry on with your moans and groans in the proper Q&A pages and stop cluttering these pages even more with your inane drivel.
If I were the poor seller, who sold you the HD2, I would have shot myself by now!!
p.s. The information you need is here if you need guidance: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=713942
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Fair enough. You are right
samsamuel said:
well that will remove it, but will wipe your rom, meaning you will be back to a stock rom.
run hspl2.exe and choose 1.66.0000 or 2.08.0000 or 1.42.0000, thats it, hspl gone.correct, that only works with your stock rom.
sspl cannot be used to flash radios, in teh way that hspl allows it, but im not really sure how it handles stock roms that include radios. The radio in teh twio roms you mentioned is identical/almost identical anyway, so it doesn't matter.
if its warranty you are worried about, its the hspl bit you should worry about, the rom and radio doesn't seem to matter.
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Thank you a ton samsamuel. You are always so helpful.
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Question answered. Thanks