Due to display flickering issue which is worse and worse from day to day. I decided to restore stock rom for my T-Mobile MDA Vario IV to make a complain.
My device is Security Unlocked, with different Radio and ROM so i would like to know if my steps for reverting is ok. I do not want to make my device bricked!!
I have EXE file with ROM from T-Mobile www which includes all like SPL, RADIO, ROM etc.
So my conclusion what i have read is that i have to:
1) restore stock Radio
2) remove security lock
3) remove Hard-SPL
4) flash stock ROM from EXE file i have already downloaded. It will overwrite 1.90 SPL to 1.69 which was my default and overwrite ROM too.
Can anyone experienced with this stuff tell me if i am right? thank a lot.
With the steps you have listed you will be good to go. Just follow your steps and you are good.
tvaril said:
Due to display flickering issue which is worse and worse from day to day. I decided to restore stock rom for my T-Mobile MDA Vario IV to make a complain.
My device is Security Unlocked, with different Radio and ROM so i would like to know if my steps for reverting is ok. I do not want to make my device bricked!!
I have EXE file with ROM from T-Mobile www which includes all like SPL, RADIO, ROM etc.
So my conclusion what i have read is that i have to:
1) restore stock Radio
2) remove security lock
3) remove Hard-SPL
4) flash stock ROM from EXE file i have already downloaded. It will overwrite 1.90 SPL to 1.69 which was my default and overwrite ROM too.
Can anyone experienced with this stuff tell me if i am right? thank a lot.
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Noo i think this is wrong. Flash the stock rom first, then the stock radio, and lastly the stock SPL.....
Jdilla said:
Noo i think this is wrong. Flash the stock rom first, then the stock radio, and lastly the stock SPL.....
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the last thing you flash should be the spl
read this before doing anything
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=410150
Noo i think this is wrong. Flash the stock rom first, then the stock radio, and lastly the stock SPL.....
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the last thing you flash should be the spl
read this before doing anything
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=410150
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I am not a noob i have read this many times, so i know what is the "official" routine. But this (official) routine was, i think made, for people who had no choice (as me with original exe) and they had to dump their ROM first, and than reconstruct part by part. And because the dumped ROM will never be CID safe, they had this tutorial 1. Radio, 2. OS, 3. SPL and it rally does make sense for me.
But i am lucky, because my operator (T-Mobile) shipped the device with EXE, which contains all the stuff (Radio, SPL, OS, RUU) and it is directly for my CID. So that is why i think my tutorial in the first post will work. And i think it should work though if i only remove Security unlock and Hard-SPL. Because it will overwrite all partitions in device even restored Radio, OS etc.
So am i right ?
your right and to save you step dont worry bout radio removal since its in the stock rom pack like u said just load the 1.90 for warrenty in the hard spl thread and relock your phone as an extra precation(some carriers care some dont) the run the exe and ure golden
ps. PimBackup is your friend (just in case u forgot)
m0nkeyf00t said:
your right and to save you step dont worry bout radio removal since its in the stock rom pack like u said just load the 1.90 for warrenty in the hard spl thread and relock your phone as an extra precation(some carriers care some dont) the run the exe and ure golden
ps. PimBackup is your friend (just in case u forgot)
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Maybe SPB Backup is my better friend than PIM Backup. But i always use both and Microsoft My Phone too Thanks
tvaril said:
I am not a noob i have read this many times, so i know what is the "official" routine. But this (official) routine was, i think made, for people who had no choice (as me with original exe) and they had to dump their ROM first, and than reconstruct part by part. And because the dumped ROM will never be CID safe, they had this tutorial 1. Radio, 2. OS, 3. SPL and it rally does make sense for me.
But i am lucky, because my operator (T-Mobile) shipped the device with EXE, which contains all the stuff (Radio, SPL, OS, RUU) and it is directly for my CID. So that is why i think my tutorial in the first post will work. And i think it should work though if i only remove Security unlock and Hard-SPL. Because it will overwrite all partitions in device even restored Radio, OS etc.
So am i right ?
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Dear not a noob,
You asked a question, and you were given the "official" routine. If you knew the "official" routine, and you were going to do it your way anyway, it kinda makes your question unnecessary. I remind you that you are not the only person who reads these forums. In fact more than a hundred have read this thread. Some of these people "noobs" or not may want to know the "official" routine.
I personally don't care what you do or where you put your phone. But if anyone reading this thread follows the official routine they will not have any problems.
I understand why people don't like answering questions in these forums. No good deed etc etc......
Ray
rayrayinfla said:
Dear not a noob,
You asked a question, and you were given the "official" routine. If you knew the "official" routine, and you were going to do it your way anyway, it kinda makes your question unnecessary. I remind you that you are not the only person who reads these forums. In fact more than a hundred have read this thread. Some of these people "noobs" or not may want to know the "official" routine.
I personally don't care what you do or where you put your phone. But if anyone reading this thread follows the official routine they will not have any problems.
I understand why people don't like answering questions in these forums. No good deed etc etc......
Ray
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Dear Ray,
you did not understand my question. That is all that i can say about it. I know about official routine to restoring stock defaults, but i was asking if my routine could lead me to same result. Because as from what i have learned in this forum this routine should lead me to the same result more easier way because i have RUU with stock ROM direct for my CID.
Your way i have to first extract nbh image from exe. Second i have to extract each nb from nbh. Third i have to make nbh from each nb, radio is not necessary, because it is already here. And for fourth my SPL is 1.69.0000 which is different from SPL contained in the Hard-SPL removing pack and it does not work for me just to replace the SPLs. And until now i did not find out why. Someone few months ago told me that i can use the SPL from Hard-SPL removing pack (1.90.0000 i think) and then overwrite it with my stock ROM package, which will restore my stock SPL and Radio, OS again as well. So official routine works for those who had to dump their ROM to backup their stock ROM, those who were not as lucky as me to have stock ROM with RUU for their CID. This procedure, i personaly think is OK, is not covered here on the forum, and that is why i was aking for blessing from someone more involved in this problmes...is it ok now?
PS: anything i can flash after removing Security Lock and Hard-SPL is my stock ROM and that is what i have. So it should work if there are not some any other things which i have missed somewhere!
Tom
bah dont worry bout them crackheads say i can speak from experience that your way work since thats exactly what i did last week only att exe pack and it did overite the 1.90 stock spl,changed to 1.95 in my case,like u say along with the radio and os. only diferance is i never security unlocked my phone sincei was happy with the raphel radios . now im happy with my new(well refurblished ) fuze.
p.s. i had defective screen too incase you were wondering
Everybody play nice
Ok, that being said, since you have the "official" exe from your Carrier, all you really have to do is:
Run the .exe from your Carrier - this will replace the stock Radio, ROM, and boot splash.
Install the warranty stock SPL 1.90 from the Hard-SPL thread (using the Hard-SPL RUU, of course).
Re-run the .exe from your Carrier, which will overwrite the 1.90 SPL with the stock version.
Other methods will likely work too, but IMHO, that's the easiest .
Captain_Throwback said:
Ok, that being said, since you have the "official" exe from your Carrier, all you really have to do is:
Run the .exe from your Carrier - this will replace the stock Radio, ROM, and boot splash.
Install the warranty stock SPL 1.90 from the Hard-SPL thread (using the Hard-SPL RUU, of course).
Re-run the .exe from your Carrier, which will overwrite the 1.90 SPL with the stock version.
Other methods will likely work too, but IMHO, that's the easiest .
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Are you sure that running EXE for the first time, before removing Hard-SPL, will not corupt the device ?
tvaril said:
Are you sure that running EXE for the first time, before removing Hard-SPL, will not corupt the device ?
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Positive. That's actually how I used to "flash to stock" in between custom ROM flashes.
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I have been reading all across the forums how to CID unlock, upgrade etc. However, I am not able to find the ways to do seeminly essential homework before trying to upgrade. These for me are:-
* Finding a way to completely backup all the stuff from original tytn. Like ROM, SPL, IPL, Radio, CIDlock etc. I feel that this is important as if ever I feel like going to the tried old one I should be able to and to preserve the warranty also. Also, the method to roll back if needed. This should be covering re CID locking the phone etc.
It makes sense to create a way to bring the phone to its completlely original shape if we need it
Thanks
Alber
alber786 said:
I have been reading all across the forums how to CID unlock, upgrade etc. However, I am not able to find the ways to do seeminly essential homework before trying to upgrade. These for me are:-
* Finding a way to completely backup all the stuff from original tytn. Like ROM, SPL, IPL, Radio, CIDlock etc. I feel that this is important as if ever I feel like going to the tried old one I should be able to and to preserve the warranty also. Also, the method to roll back if needed. This should be covering re CID locking the phone etc.
It makes sense to create a way to bring the phone to its completlely original shape if we need it
Thanks
Alber
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You do not need to back up your spl, ipl, etc. because if you need to roll back you can just reflash them on, and they can be found around here and in the wiki.
You cannot un-CIDunlock, but if you use hardspl v7 it will "trick" your phone into thinking it is (when in reality it isnt) so that you do not have to actually unlock it. If you ever need to send it in you can just flash the old spl over it.
mcorrie1121 said:
You do not need to back up your spl, ipl, etc. because if you need to roll back you can just reflash them on, and they can be found around here and in the wiki.
You cannot un-CIDunlock, but if you use hardspl v7 it will "trick" your phone into thinking it is (when in reality it isnt) so that you do not have to actually unlock it. If you ever need to send it in you can just flash the old spl over it.
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So you mean that hardspl doesnt CID unlock it? But isnt there really a way to extract the original components and then put them back again ?
thanks
Alber
alber786 said:
So you mean that hardspl doesnt CID unlock it? But isnt there really a way to extract the original components and then put them back again ?
thanks
Alber
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HardSPL does not CID unlock. pof's Free Unlocker (a sticky thread) does the SIM and CID unlocking. HardSPL is a new set of bootloaders allowing upgrade utilities to access and read/write to the phone. The most important aspect of this (besides bypassing the CID check) is the security - it has some overwrite protection built in to prevent you from accidentally corrupting the bootloader area, rendering your phone a brick. HardSPL is a safety measure.
If you check THE WIKI here on xda for the Hermes, you will find some stuff on extracting. It is most probable that it will be FAR easier to find new versions of everything you have, rather than trying to back up and restore. The wiki contains MANY shipped ROMs to allow you to restore back to basically the original condition. LOOK HERE for MW5 shipped ROMs and LOOK HERE for WM6 shipped ROMs.
todd_jg said:
HardSPL does not CID unlock. pof's Free Unlocker (a sticky thread) does the SIM and CID unlocking. HardSPL is a new set of bootloaders allowing upgrade utilities to access and read/write to the phone. The most important aspect of this (besides bypassing the CID check) is the security - it has some overwrite protection built in to prevent you from accidentally corrupting the bootloader area, rendering your phone a brick. HardSPL is a safety measure.
If you check THE WIKI here on xda for the Hermes, you will find some stuff on extracting. It is most probable that it will be FAR easier to find new versions of everything you have, rather than trying to back up and restore. The wiki contains MANY shipped ROMs to allow you to restore back to basically the original condition. LOOK HERE for MW5 shipped ROMs and LOOK HERE for WM6 shipped ROMs.
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what about the radio upgrade
the htc108 thing
its confusing
on pof's sticky it says to downgrade the radio if u have the htc 108..
but on the radio upgrade sticky, it says u can upgrade any phone[hermes] using custom ruu..
todd_jg said:
HardSPL does not CID unlock. pof's Free Unlocker (a sticky thread) does the SIM and CID unlocking. HardSPL is a new set of bootloaders allowing upgrade utilities to access and read/write to the phone. The most important aspect of this (besides bypassing the CID check) is the security - it has some overwrite protection built in to prevent you from accidentally corrupting the bootloader area, rendering your phone a brick. HardSPL is a safety measure.
If you check THE WIKI here on xda for the Hermes, you will find some stuff on extracting. It is most probable that it will be FAR easier to find new versions of everything you have, rather than trying to back up and restore. The wiki contains MANY shipped ROMs to allow you to restore back to basically the original condition. LOOK HERE for MW5 shipped ROMs and LOOK HERE for WM6 shipped ROMs.
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Thanks a lot for the reply, I appreciate the time you spent in expaining this to me and providing these links.
I was wondering if HARDSPL is like shelltool where it will only allow upgrade or flashing of OS part. So, once I use the HARDSPL and flash say HTC official WM6 release or Dopod WM6, will I be ableto to get the bundled radio and SPL and IPL upgrades from these ROMS? and if yes then will HARDSPL get replaced by these SPLs and IPLs built into the ROMS? One more thing, will an upgrade like that can brick the phone as if I rum the official ROM it will try to upgrade the SPL and IPL (I am not sure).
What is the preferred way of upgrading ? unlocking CID by the tool or HARDSPL ?
I have read somewhere that lockwiz tool used for Wizard can save CID also and some tool and put it back also but I dont know how and if the same tool can do it for hermes?
Regards,
Alber
alber786 said:
Thanks a lot for the reply, I appreciate the time you spent in expaining this to me and providing these links.
I was wondering if HARDSPL is like shelltool where it will only allow upgrade or flashing of OS part. So, once I use the HARDSPL and flash say HTC official WM6 release or Dopod WM6, will I be ableto to get the bundled radio and SPL and IPL upgrades from these ROMS? and if yes then will HARDSPL get replaced by these SPLs and IPLs built into the ROMS? One more thing, will an upgrade like that can brick the phone as if I rum the official ROM it will try to upgrade the SPL and IPL (I am not sure).
What is the preferred way of upgrading ? unlocking CID by the tool or HARDSPL ?
I have read somewhere that lockwiz tool used for Wizard can save CID also and some tool and put it back also but I dont know how and if the same tool can do it for hermes?
Regards,
Alber
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Most cooked roms are os only, but a few have a radio, etc. included. If its os only, flashing will only change the os. You can separately flash radio.
Hardspl is the best because its reversible. Well thats not the best word to describe it....id say because its not permanent. But u know what i mean
alber786 said:
Thanks a lot for the reply, I appreciate the time you spent in expaining this to me and providing these links.
I was wondering if HARDSPL is like shelltool where it will only allow upgrade or flashing of OS part. So, once I use the HARDSPL and flash say HTC official WM6 release or Dopod WM6, will I be ableto to get the bundled radio and SPL and IPL upgrades from these ROMS? and if yes then will HARDSPL get replaced by these SPLs and IPLs built into the ROMS? One more thing, will an upgrade like that can brick the phone as if I rum the official ROM it will try to upgrade the SPL and IPL (I am not sure).
What is the preferred way of upgrading ? unlocking CID by the tool or HARDSPL ?
I have read somewhere that lockwiz tool used for Wizard can save CID also and some tool and put it back also but I dont know how and if the same tool can do it for hermes?
Regards,
Alber
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Mcorrie1121 is right. I will add a couple of things.
1. HardSPL is not *necessary* for flashing anything, it only makes it safer and allows you to flash ROMs with CIDs that do not match your device without CID unlocking. Your ROM is basically a few parts - OS, Radio, IPL, SPL, ExtROM, MainSplash and SubSplash. The HardSPL will replace the SPL only. Most non-carrier ROM releases are OS only. Most carrier ROMs (as you pointed out) have ALL of these things. As Mcorrie1121 pointed out, you can easily find a radio - check the wiki, search, etc.
2. Once you have upgraded to a cooked ROM (and HardSPL), you will still be able to upgrade to a Shipped Official ROM. You may need to "unpack" it and use the CustomRUU instead of the shipped updater. That is OK though.
3. HardSPL will not allow overwriting of the IPL/SPL except by another HardSPL (see mrvanx.org downgrade guides). You will not have a problem. It will keep your bootloader zone safe.
4. I don't think there is a preferred way. Some people unlock CID, others do not. There is no reason to *not* unlock it, unless you plan to send it back - and I have never heard of someone getting service rejected for this reason. Wring ROM, yes. CID unlocked, no. That said, maybe try without CID unlocking first and then if you find you need to do it for some reason, then do it. You really do not have to do it, since the Custom Updater bypasses the CID check anyway.
5. Regarding the 0108 Radio BL issue, don't worry much about that - it is an old problem. Just don't go below whatever version you have now.
todd_jg said:
Mcorrie1121 is right. I will add a couple of things.
1. HardSPL is not *necessary* for flashing anything, it only makes it safer and allows you to flash ROMs with CIDs that do not match your device without CID unlocking. Your ROM is basically a few parts - OS, Radio, IPL, SPL, ExtROM, MainSplash and SubSplash. The HardSPL will replace the SPL only. Most non-carrier ROM releases are OS only. Most carrier ROMs (as you pointed out) have ALL of these things. As Mcorrie1121 pointed out, you can easily find a radio - check the wiki, search, etc.
2. Once you have upgraded to a cooked ROM (and HardSPL), you will still be able to upgrade to a Shipped Official ROM. You may need to "unpack" it and use the CustomRUU instead of the shipped updater. That is OK though.
3. HardSPL will not allow overwriting of the IPL/SPL except by another HardSPL (see mrvanx.org downgrade guides). You will not have a problem. It will keep your bootloader zone safe.
4. I don't think there is a preferred way. Some people unlock CID, others do not. There is no reason to *not* unlock it, unless you plan to send it back - and I have never heard of someone getting service rejected for this reason. Wring ROM, yes. CID unlocked, no. That said, maybe try without CID unlocking first and then if you find you need to do it for some reason, then do it. You really do not have to do it, since the Custom Updater bypasses the CID check anyway.
5. Regarding the 0108 Radio BL issue, don't worry much about that - it is an old problem. Just don't go below whatever version you have now.
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Thanks, I appreciate your help. Please tell me if I can put back WM5 back on it after upgrading.
Regards,
Alber
todd_jg said:
Mcorrie1121 is right. I will add a couple of things.
1. HardSPL is not *necessary* for flashing anything, it only makes it safer and allows you to flash ROMs with CIDs that do not match your device without CID unlocking. Your ROM is basically a few parts - OS, Radio, IPL, SPL, ExtROM, MainSplash and SubSplash. The HardSPL will replace the SPL only. Most non-carrier ROM releases are OS only. Most carrier ROMs (as you pointed out) have ALL of these things. As Mcorrie1121 pointed out, you can easily find a radio - check the wiki, search, etc.
2. Once you have upgraded to a cooked ROM (and HardSPL), you will still be able to upgrade to a Shipped Official ROM. You may need to "unpack" it and use the CustomRUU instead of the shipped updater. That is OK though.
3. HardSPL will not allow overwriting of the IPL/SPL except by another HardSPL (see mrvanx.org downgrade guides). You will not have a problem. It will keep your bootloader zone safe.
4. I don't think there is a preferred way. Some people unlock CID, others do not. There is no reason to *not* unlock it, unless you plan to send it back - and I have never heard of someone getting service rejected for this reason. Wring ROM, yes. CID unlocked, no. That said, maybe try without CID unlocking first and then if you find you need to do it for some reason, then do it. You really do not have to do it, since the Custom Updater bypasses the CID check anyway.
5. Regarding the 0108 Radio BL issue, don't worry much about that - it is an old problem. Just don't go below whatever version you have now.
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Dear, please help me with one thing-I am terribly confused about the procedure to upgrade my JASJAM to WM6. I understand that one way is to CIS unlock it and install on it the official and dopod releases of WM6. I wanted to know how can I do the same using the HARDspl. I know that I can install the HARDSPL but after that what ??? Can I then run the offcial RUU from HTC or Dopod or I am supposed to do it some other way as I am afraid that it may contain the SPL and IPL and can break by phone OR I have to use some customRUU (I dont know) OR I am supposed to extract the OS from these official releases (I dont know how) OR ..
Can you please clear these confusion??
I have:-
* I-Mate JASJAM, CID locked i suppose as when I run official HTC or dopod it says this update utility is not for this
*I really wanted to save my devices complete state and a way to revert it to the way it was like SPL, IPL, OS, Radio, CID lock etc.
PLS pls help
Regards,
Alber
alber786 said:
Dear, please help me with one thing-I am terribly confused about the procedure to upgrade my JASJAM to WM6. I understand that one way is to CIS unlock it and install on it the official and dopod releases of WM6. I wanted to know how can I do the same using the HARDspl. I know that I can install the HARDSPL but after that what ??? Can I then run the offcial RUU from HTC or Dopod or I am supposed to do it some other way as I am afraid that it may contain the SPL and IPL and can break by phone OR I have to use some customRUU (I dont know) OR I am supposed to extract the OS from these official releases (I dont know how) OR ..
Can you please clear these confusion??
I have:-
* I-Mate JASJAM, CID locked i suppose as when I run official HTC or dopod it says this update utility is not for this
*I really wanted to save my devices complete state and a way to revert it to the way it was like SPL, IPL, OS, Radio, CID lock etc.
PLS pls help
Regards,
Alber
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CLICK THIS LINK
There are upgrade guides there and guides to put it back the way it was (OS, Radio, IPL, SPL, MainSplash and SubSplash) - it is all covered.
The upgrade guides will get you through the upgrade process. The only thing you need to do after that to use an official upgrade is to unrar (using winrar or something) the executable file and take the nbh and us it with the CustomRUU, which can be found HERE .
This thread is a supplement to the HardSPL thread, in the unfortunate case that you need to return your phone to Stock specifications (including Stock SPL), and the SPL that came with your phone didn't happen to be the 1.90 version included in the HardSPL thread. I've included the few that I have here, and as I come across others, I'll add them to this post. If anyone else has other versions, feel free to post them here as well.
Each zip file includes the Stock SPL nbh file ONLY. In order to restore Stock SPL, you WILL need the HardSPL package from this thread.
SPL 1.95 - Extracted from AT&T HTC FUZE Stock ROM
SPL 5.05 - Extracted from Official HTC ROM (WWE)
SPL 5.08 - Extracted from AT&T HTC FUZE Test ROM
SPL 5.07 - Extracted from Official HTC ROM - Southeast Asia - Sintel-English
SPL 1.90 (from HardSPL thread) - I added this one just so they're all in the same place.
EDIT: I have tired flashing several of these to my device with no success. It appears there is more that I need to do to extract these SPLs properly. In the meantime, I recommend that you use the 1.90SPL from the HardSPL thread for your warranty purposes. If you would then like to get the stock SPL on your device, re-flashing the stock ROM should accomplish that.
Thanks
Thank you so much. I have been looking for the 1.95 spl for weeks. In fact that was the only thing stopping me from flashing Da G's Windows mobile 6.5 ROM. Also could you send me a Pm with Instructions on how to flash the wm6.5 rom and the 1.95 spl.
Thanks.
assassin82492 said:
Thank you so much. I have been looking for the 1.95 spl for weeks. In fact that was the only thing stopping me from flashing Da G's Windows mobile 6.5 ROM. Also could you send me a Pm with Instructions on how to flash the wm6.5 rom and the 1.95 spl.
Thanks.
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Before we do that, let's stop there. If you want to flash Da_G's WM6.5 ROM, you need to have HardSPL on your device. You should only be flashing a stock SPL if you are returning your phone, for warranty reasons. Can you clarify what it is you're trying to do?
Also, have you reviewed this thread, so you know how to flash your phone properly?
Thanks for compiling this. Sticky time!
Captain_Throwback said:
Before we do that, let's stop there. If you want to flash Da_G's WM6.5 ROM, you need to have HardSPL on your device. You should only be flashing a stock SPL if you are returning your phone, for warranty reasons. Can you clarify what it is you're trying to do?
Also, have you reviewed this thread, so you know how to flash your phone properly?
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Yea I have looked at that and I know about having the hard spl. I just don't know how to flash the 6.5 rom. Thanks for your concern though.
StockSPL 1.69
Here is Stock SPL 1.69 from T-Mobile Czech ROM extracted from RUU_signed.nbh with NBHextract.exe a converted with yang back to nbh by following code
Code:
yang -F SPL.nbh -f SPL.nb -t 0x200 -s 64 -d RAPH***** -c 11111111 -v 1.00.000 -l WWE
Some Moderator can move it to first post ;-)
I have HardSPL and it says version 1.90Olinex. I think my stock was SPL 1.95 but i'm not sure. I have the ATT Fuze. I'm having a problem with the G-Sensor and need to send it back for replacement. Can anyone confirm that I need to flash 1.95 for ATT or anything else? Also If I have upgraded the radio, should I downgraded it before send back for replacement or its ok?
Thanks
chukalov said:
I have HardSPL and it says version 1.90Olinex. I think my stock was SPL 1.95 but i'm not sure. I have the ATT Fuze. I'm having a problem with the G-Sensor and need to send it back for replacement. Can anyone confirm that I need to flash 1.95 for ATT or anything else? Also If I have upgraded the radio, should I downgraded it before send back for replacement or its ok?
Thanks
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When you flash the stock Fuze ROM, your radio will also be flashed. Be sure to follow the instructions in the Hard-SPL thread for returning your phone to stock specifications. When you get to the part about flashing back to Stock SPL for warranty purposes, the 1.95 SPL from the OP here is the one you should use (if you purchased your Fuze in the US after it was officially released - that's what mine came with).
Well, lucky me . I kept shaking the phone and my G-sensor works now. It was stuck on one side and would move. I think I will hold off with the return to stock for now, i really dont want to get refurb replacement.
Thanks for the reply.
assassin82492 said:
Thank you so much. I have been looking for the 1.95 spl for weeks. In fact that was the only thing stopping me from flashing Da G's Windows mobile 6.5 ROM. Also could you send me a Pm with Instructions on how to flash the wm6.5 rom and the 1.95 spl.
Thanks.
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Please... for your own sake and ours... please read. This has been covered many, many times... I don't want you to end up with a bricked device, and quite frankly, I don't believe this question needs to be answered yet again. Please read, I am not trying to be rude, but if you read, you won't have to ask this question.
Hey Captain,
I'm not sure if I'm doing something wrong, but for some reason the 1.95 SPL file doesn't work. The SPL remains as HardSPL. However, the Stock 1.90 SPL file provided by Onlinex does work. Any advice?
Thanks!
custommsp said:
Hey Captain,
I'm not sure if I'm doing something wrong, but for some reason the 1.95 SPL file doesn't work. The SPL remains as HardSPL. However, the Stock 1.90 SPL file provided by Onlinex does work. Any advice?
Thanks!
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I'm sure you didn't do anything wrong. I'll look into it. In the meantime, if you just re-flash the Stock ROM after flashing the 1.90 SPL, it should upgrade your SPL to 1.95 (since that's what's included with the Stock ROM). I'll try and figure out what I did wrong.
Great, I'll try it.
ryan_h said:
Please... for your own sake and ours... please read. This has been covered many, many times... I don't want you to end up with a bricked device, and quite frankly, I don't believe this question needs to be answered yet again. Please read, I am not trying to be rude, but if you read, you won't have to ask this question.
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I couldn't find it. I asked the Captain because he already had the ROm installed and he helped a lot.
SPL extract attempts unsuccessful
I have tried to flash almost all of the stock SPLs I extracted, but I can't get any of them to flash using the HardSPL wrapper. I'm not sure that any of them will work. I've updated the first post with the only method that will probably work to restore stock SPL (unless someone can figure out what I'm doing wrong. I've tried htcRIE, NBHExtract, NBHUtil, & yang, and while all of the SPLs I extracted appear to have been done successfully, when I try to flash them to my phone, none of them are working. I'm getting a connection error with the wrapper. Maybe its not the SPL, but an issue with my phone, I don't know.
At any rate, I believe this thread will probably not serve the purpose for which it was intended, and should perhaps be archived & closed.
My first attempt at helping out appears to have been unsuccessful .
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I have tried to flash almost all of the stock SPLs I extracted, but I can't get any of them to flash using the HardSPL wrapper. I'm not sure that any of them will work. I've updated the first post with the only method that will probably work to restore stock SPL (unless someone can figure out what I'm doing wrong. I've tried htcRIE, NBHExtract, NBHUtil, & yang, and while all of the SPLs I extracted appear to have been done successfully, when I try to flash them to my phone, none of them are working. I'm getting a connection error with the wrapper. Maybe its not the SPL, but an issue with my phone, I don't know.
At any rate, I believe this thread will probably not serve the purpose for which it was intended, and should perhaps be archived & closed.
My first attempt at helping out appears to have been unsuccessful .
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As you already suggested, it's probably best to flash back to the stock 1.90 SPL following Onlinex's guide after which one should just install the stock ATT Rom or the other stock roms with the latest stock SPL. This worked for me.
Thanks!
About the stock SPL, i am not sure which is mine. As i am from Asia (Malaysia) , which one should i get?
1) SPL 5.05 - Extracted from Official HTC ROM (WWE)
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2)Extracted from Official HTC ROM - Southeast Asia - Sintel-English
Captain_Throwback said:
I have tried to flash almost all of the stock SPLs I extracted, but I can't get any of them to flash using the HardSPL wrapper. I'm not sure that any of them will work. I've updated the first post with the only method that will probably work to restore stock SPL (unless someone can figure out what I'm doing wrong. I've tried htcRIE, NBHExtract, NBHUtil, & yang, and while all of the SPLs I extracted appear to have been done successfully, when I try to flash them to my phone, none of them are working. I'm getting a connection error with the wrapper. Maybe its not the SPL, but an issue with my phone, I don't know.
At any rate, I believe this thread will probably not serve the purpose for which it was intended, and should perhaps be archived & closed.
My first attempt at helping out appears to have been unsuccessful .
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So as far as i understand, it is possible to flash 1.90 SPL to my device although it had 1.69 SPL as a default by T-Mobile!?
To your problem: shouldnt you just restore your stock Radio and stock OS before flashing stock SPL ?
arvin2212 said:
About the stock SPL, i am not sure which is mine. As i am from Asia (Malaysia) , which one should i get?
1) SPL 5.05 - Extracted from Official HTC ROM (WWE)
or
2)Extracted from Official HTC ROM - Southeast Asia - Sintel-English
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First of all, if you need to restore your phone back to stock, as tvaril noted, you MUST first flash your stock ROM/radio. Once you do that, then you should flash the stock SPL (1.90) provided in the HardSPL thread using the method indicated there.Then, re-flash your stock ROM, and it should restore your stock SPL.
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So as far as i understand, it is possible to flash 1.90 SPL to my device although it had 1.69 SPL as a default by T-Mobile!?
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Yes, you should be able to flash the stock SPL 1.90 provided in the HardSPL thread, using the method indicated there, and then re-flash your stock ROM, and it should restore your 1.69 SPL.
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First of all, if you need to restore your phone back to stock, as tvaril noted, you MUST first flash your stock ROM/radio. Once you do that, then you should flash the stock SPL (1.90) provided in the HardSPL thread using the method indicated there.Then, re-flash your stock ROM, and it should restore your stock SPL.
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i believe you misunderstood his question. he's asking which SPL should he download given that he got his phone in malaysia
i believe that it should be the asia-singtel one. i'm in singapore, and that is the rom that was recently released for our devices. so my guess would be the singtel spl.
Anyone please confirm I am thinking right?
Here’s what I did:
1.From T-mobile.cz I got the factory Czech T-Mobile Rom (*.exe)
2. I extracted the *.exe with WinRar and got a bunch of files.
3. I took out RUU_Signed and extracted it with NBHtool and got 4 *.NB files:
769.nb
PrimarySplash.nb
SPL.nb
Windows.nb
4. In the meanwhile I extracted my original reconstructed Dutch T-Mobile RUU_Signed.nbh (confirmed working) and took the Windows.nb
5. From the Czech *.nb files I deleted the windows.nb and replaced it with my Dutch windows.nb
6. With htcRIE 0.5.0.12 I put the three Czech NB’s:769.nb (suppose radio), PrimarySplash.nb and SPL.nb together with The Dutch windows.nb together in New RUU_signed.nbh.
7. I put the newly created RUU_Signed back into the folder with files from step 2.
8. Using Winrar I stuffed ala these files together in an *.sfx file that has an instruction saying that after extracting the sfx it should start RomUpdateUtility.
9. So far so good! I clicked the sfx and it would nicely extract and start the Czech RomUpdateUtility. The utility being Czech is no problem as I/we have been using it probably a sillion times and don’t read it.
10. Now I don’t have the guts to test it on my Dutch MDA Vario IV JJ but want to know wether this would work in case of RMA.
I remember that the Dutch factory ROM-upgrade for T-Mobile Vario III (Kaiser) would restore everything: SPL, Splash etc) By doing the above I somehow think I have re-created sort of a Dutch “factory” ROM upgrade that will restore everything back to stock.
Suppose this works, will I be able to go back to Hard SPL a second time? (heard some rumors...)
I want you guys to know that I don’t have any education in ICT but consider myself smart enough to figure things like this out . However… I am not too sure about what I have created.
Thnx. For any kind of feedback.
Am willing to upload this for people who want to try.
Free Rapidshare (10 downloads) if needed I will put it in my FTP.
Was it not in The raphael original shipped ROM wiki?
Also if it would help, I think I still have the files backed up at home somewhere. If you want I could look for it.
haaibaa2 said:
Was it not in The raphael original shipped ROM wiki?
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It was but when reading the thread that goes with it I get serious doubts about that one working well
I have them backed up as well but I never dumped the splash, radio and more important the SPL. and everyone is talking about SPL's lately but no one can answer me wether one of the offered solutions is a working one.
So I was thinking to sort of creating a oneclick solution for whenever a RMA occures to me again
Was this a dumb question?
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Was this a dumb question?
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If you were able to download a factory ROM directly from your Carrier's website, then it would include everything you need to return your device to stock.
Then, all you would have to do is follow the instructions in the Hard-SPL thread to install the stock SPL (if you've flashed Hard-SPL), and then re-flash the factory ROM you downloaded to restore the original SPL.
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If you were able to download a factory ROM directly from your Carrier's website, then it would include everything you need to return your device to stock.
Then, all you would have to do is follow the instructions in the Hard-SPL thread to install the stock SPL (if you've flashed Hard-SPL), and then re-flash the factory ROM you downloaded to restore the original SPL.
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There is no Dutch T-Mobile factoryrom.. that is the first thing I checked of course even before I had my first Vario IV at home.
And I still think somehow to remember that flashing the stock T-Mobile to my old Kaiser did flash the stock SPL as well... however I am starting to have doubts now..
Besides I haven't found anyone yet confirming that the Stock T-Mobile SPL from the Stock SPL thread actually works...
And the thingy I created should flash back stock radio and splash.. would you know of any safe way to test this Captain_Throwback??
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There is no Dutch T-Mobile factoryrom.. that is the first thing I checked of course even before I had my first Vario IV at home.
And I still think somehow to remember that flashing the stock T-Mobile to my old Kaiser did flash the stock SPL as well... however I am starting to have doubts now..
Besides I haven't found anyone yet confirming that the Stock T-Mobile SPL from the Stock SPL thread actually works...
And the thingy I created should flash back stock radio and splash.. would you know of any safe way to test this Captain_Throwback??
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I don't know of any "safe" way, no. I have no confidence that the Stock SPL from the stock SPL thread will work, either - that's why I had that thread closed. After you flash the stock SPL from the Hard-SPL thread, you risk bricking your phone if you try flashing a created ROM to it (even if it is created from parts of stock ROMs).
If you have a stock SPL on the phone, its possible that the extracted SPLs from that thread will actually work; but I'm already on my second phone, so I'm not willing to risk trying it.
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If you have a stock SPL on the phone, its possible that the extracted SPLs from that thread will actually work; but I'm already on my second phone, so I'm not willing to risk trying it.
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That's my issue since tuesday I am dealing with my second raph as well the other one was only a couple of weeks old. The mobo burned and they were not able yet to recover anything. But I have set my goals on a working recoverymethod.
Too bad you had your thread closed as it was going somewhere good. and people not reading or trying unconfirmed things take their own risks as this is a development area.
Would you reconsider asking NATF to reopen it and change the topicname?
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That's my issue since tuesday I am dealing with my second raph as well the other one was only a couple of weeks old. The mobo burned and they were not able yet to recover anything. But I have set my goals on a working recoverymethod.
Too bad you had your thread closed as it was going somewhere good. and people not reading or trying unconfirmed things take their own risks as this is a development area.
Would you reconsider asking NATF to reopen it and change the topicname?
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Well, I think any future conversation on the whole "flashing back to stock" can be carried on in JZ SmartMort's thread with the instructions on how to do that. He also explains in there why none of the SPLs that I extracted will ever overwrite Hard-SPL. Unless Olipro or cmonex enlighten us on how they were able to modify that 1.90 SPL to overwrite the Hard-SPL, that's the only one that'll ever work.
I did see you posted in that thread, but I think if you really NEED a different SPL than one that's in an existing stock ROM, that if you PM Olipro or cmonex, one of them may be able to help you.
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There is no Dutch T-Mobile factoryrom.. that is the first thing I checked of course even before I had my first Vario IV at home.
And I still think somehow to remember that flashing the stock T-Mobile to my old Kaiser did flash the stock SPL as well... however I am starting to have doubts now..
Besides I haven't found anyone yet confirming that the Stock T-Mobile SPL from the Stock SPL thread actually works...
And the thingy I created should flash back stock radio and splash.. would you know of any safe way to test this Captain_Throwback??
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http://www.t-mobile.nl/persoonlijk/...are-updates/mda/mda-compact-iv-winupdate.aspx ???
I thought this includes a complete WM6.1 package.
gdekeijzer said:
http://www.t-mobile.nl/persoonlijk/...are-updates/mda/mda-compact-iv-winupdate.aspx ???
I thought this includes a complete WM6.1 package.
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It does but it's for MDA Compact IV, aka Touch Diamond... but still am going to look what's inside
edit: cewl it had the splash I wanted inside.
Had the guts to flash...
...and it works. Exept from SPL...
Next step will be flashing this after OLi en cmonex' only for warranty SPL 1.90..
Just wonder wether I will be able to flash back to Hard SPL after this....
Anuone has an idea??
Dust2Dust said:
...and it works. Exept from SPL...
Next step will be flashing this after OLi en cmonex' only for warranty SPL 1.90..
Just wonder wether I will be able to flash back to Hard SPL after this....
Anuone has an idea??
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If you're able to successfully flash your Franken-ROM w/stock SPL to your phone after flashing the 1.90 warranty SPL, your phone still works, and you can connect to a computer using Activesync or Mobile Device Center, there's no reason you shouldn't be able to re-flash Hard-SPL onto your device. The key words in that sentence are "if" and "successfully" . . .
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The key words in that sentence are "if" and "successfully" . . .
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Yep...
those are the keywords
If possible could someone instruct me on how to downgrade the SPL on hd2 from 2.10 to 1.42? Also, i've been having trouble with changing the radio.
Hi,
You can downgrade your SPL by installing an older stock ROM with the SPL version you require.
As for changing your radio, what exactly is the 'trouble'? You should just be able to flash it the same as you flash your ROM's (check The Leo Radio Thread for different radio versions), or you could task29 your phone and use the radio .nbh file instead of the blank one that comes shipped with task29.
Hope this helps
jwchips
kipe222 said:
If possible could someone instruct me on how to downgrade the SPL on hd2 from 2.10 to 1.42? Also, i've been having trouble with changing the radio.
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You cant. Your spl being 2.10.0000 tells us that you have a tmous phone, so you cannot use any 1.x spl versions.
This is also why you cant change radio, , ,because you dont have hspl installed.
jwchips said:
You can downgrade your SPL by installing an older stock ROM with the SPL version you require.
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DO NOT follow the above advice to flash an older rom from sd card, it WILL brick your phone.
What are you trying to do? if you are wanting to downgrade so you can flash roms and radios, use hspl3, and choose 2.08.hspl
samsamuel said:
You cant.
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What are you trying to do? if you are wanting to downgrade so you can flash roms and radios, use hspl3, and choose 2.08.hspl
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This counts as a downgrade in my book (not the one he wants, but still.....)
Or am I missing something?
heh, the point was the op wanted to downgrade from a stock to a stock that wouldn't work. had he followed your post he would have rushed off to find a stock 1.43 rom because it includes 1.42 spl, flashed it, and would have a brick now.
i wasn't saying your post was wrong, just that it wasn't clear enough considering the phone is a tmous.
wassuntme
samsamuel said:
heh, the point was the op wanted to downgrade from a stock to a stock that wouldn't work. had he followed your post [....]would have a brick now.
i wasn't saying your post was wrong, just that it wasn't clear enough considering the phone is a tmous.
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Sorry, that was not my post!!, it was jwchips.
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Still I notice a lot of people trying flashing without having a clue as to what they are doing.
They Flash ROM sometimes more easy than installing a program, like there is no risk.
What worries me more: People are even advising to Flash stating there is no risk at all
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oh yea, my apologies, shame on my eyesight! heh.
Still I notice a lot of people trying flashing without having a clue as to what they are doing.
They Flash ROM sometimes more easy than installing a program, like there is no risk.
What worries me more: People are even advising to Flash stating there is no risk at all
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couldnt agree more. The HD2 is probably one of the safest phones to flash that ive ever come across (excluding the tmous, cos it has a built in kill switch, hehe) but yet every day there are examples of people getting their phone, coming straight here and flashign eth first rom they can find, with no reading, no understanding, no preparation, nothing.
Damn the spoon feeding culture, teaching our kids to 'dont think, just do'
Fellas,
2 questions about hspl and sspl,
1- It is said that HSPL can be removed from the phone right after the flashing is complete. Does the removal of the HSPL necessarily result in the ROM on the phone also getting removed/returning to its former version? I mean, is there any way to remove ONLY the hspl and actually keep the ROM new version that has been just flashed by the hspl?
2- After utilising SSPL for flashing a phone, the word “hspl” obviously will not be seen in the bootloader. I wonder if there is any way to find out if a phone has been sspl’d ( of course if the phone is flashed with a stock rom, not a cooked rom! )
Thank you
Meteorite-The-Second said:
Fellas,
2 questions about hspl and sspl,
1- It is bee said that HSPL can be removed from the phone just after the flashing is complete. Does the removal of the HSPL necessarily result in the ROM on the phone also getting removed/returning to its former version? I mean, is there any way to remove ONLY the hspl and actually keep the ROM new version that has been just flashed by the hspl?
2- After utilising SSPL for flashing a phone, the word “hspl” obviously will not be seen in the bootloader. I wonder if there is any other way to find out if a phone has been sspl’d ( of course if the phone is flashed with a stock rom, not a cooked rom!)
Thank you
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i think you can remove the hspl with leaving any affects on flashed rom.
mon_money said:
i think you can remove the hspl with leaving any affects on flashed rom.
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Hey, thanks for the reply.
Is this what you are advising? >> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=623402
hspl yes you can remove hspl immediately and the rom will work fine.
sspl during the flash if you watch carefully when the phone enters bootloader, your spl changes to 1.42.6666
as soon as the phone restarts after the flash, your spl is back to what it was, no trace.
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hspl yes you can remove hspl immediately and the rom will work fine.
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Is it the way of going about this?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=623402
or does the above mentioned remove hslp AND AT THE SAME TIME change the ROM as well?
samsamuel said:
as soon as the phone restarts after the flash, your spl is back to what it was, no trace.
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I have heard that RADIO doesn't change during sspl, is that correct? But I guess if someone sspl the phone with the same ROM version (only different in language, like when someone changes his CHN 3.14.xxx rom into WWE 3.14.xx), then the radio version will also ok and will leave no trace... right?
Thank buddy
Why do you keep posting questions in the 'Rom Development' pages? Carry on with your moans and groans in the proper Q&A pages and stop cluttering these pages even more with your inane drivel.
If I were the poor seller, who sold you the HD2, I would have shot myself by now!!
p.s. The information you need is here if you need guidance: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=713942
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Is it the way of going about this?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=623402
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well that will remove it, but will wipe your rom, meaning you will be back to a stock rom.
run hspl2.exe and choose 1.66.0000 or 2.08.0000 or 1.42.0000, thats it, hspl gone.
or does the above mentioned remove hslp AND AT THE SAME TIME change the ROM as well?
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correct, that only works with your stock rom.
I have heard that RADIO doesn't change during sspl, is that correct? But I guess if someone sspl the phone with the same ROM version (only different in language, like when someone changes his CHN 3.14.xxx rom into WWE 3.14.xx), then the radio version will also ok and will leave no trace... right?
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sspl cannot be used to flash radios, in teh way that hspl allows it, but im not really sure how it handles stock roms that include radios. The radio in teh twio roms you mentioned is identical/almost identical anyway, so it doesn't matter.
if its warranty you are worried about, its the hspl bit you should worry about, the rom and radio doesn't seem to matter.
Prozac69 said:
Why do you keep posting questions in the 'Rom Development' pages? Carry on with your moans and groans in the proper Q&A pages and stop cluttering these pages even more with your inane drivel.
If I were the poor seller, who sold you the HD2, I would have shot myself by now!!
p.s. The information you need is here if you need guidance: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=713942
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Fair enough. You are right
samsamuel said:
well that will remove it, but will wipe your rom, meaning you will be back to a stock rom.
run hspl2.exe and choose 1.66.0000 or 2.08.0000 or 1.42.0000, thats it, hspl gone.correct, that only works with your stock rom.
sspl cannot be used to flash radios, in teh way that hspl allows it, but im not really sure how it handles stock roms that include radios. The radio in teh twio roms you mentioned is identical/almost identical anyway, so it doesn't matter.
if its warranty you are worried about, its the hspl bit you should worry about, the rom and radio doesn't seem to matter.
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Thank you a ton samsamuel. You are always so helpful.
P.S.
Question answered. Thanks