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Hi, I first want to start by saying I have read through the entire Hermes wiki and have followed the website for about the past year, through my 8125 and now on to my 8525. Thus, I have done the necessary research but now just have a couple of questions that are best answered by the community. I apologize if I did not find a thread out there that answered this particular question, but I assure you that I tried to look for one. ANYWAY....
A couple of weeks ago my father purchased a HTC TyTN in France, I suppose, from my recommendations for my 8525. He is originally from overseas, grew up there, and has fluently spoken French his entire life, but English is the language with which he is comfortable as far as computers and phones go. Although he loves the phone, his one problem is the fact that everything is in French. He says that he can sort of navigate around but claims that most of the translation is not great, and, in addition, it is hard for me to help him out when things are called different things between our two phones.
Basically, my question is what do I have to do to make his phone in English? I am assuming that his phone is the HTC TyTN and, from looking on the ROM upgrading page, that his ROM is currently the "1.18.256.2 FRA." I know that I will have to upgrade his ROM, but which is the best, most stable one that I should upgrade his phone to? Or, is there officially released ROM's that HTC releases for TyTN users who buy their phone overseas but would prefer an operating system in English, or another language?
Again, I am sure someone will say "Read the wiki before you post something like this," but it is my father's phone (which he paid $600 for there!!) and I want to be sure I know what I am doing when I do it, rather than the way I can just play around with my 8525.
I thank everyone in advance for reading my post and for any help that anyone can provide; a mere recommendation of a ROM to any helpful suggestions would be more than appreciated! Thank you so much again, and thanks to everyone who keeps this place such a valuable community for those seeking help and, of course, those eternally seeking ways to make their phones cooler than that of the person's next to them!
Sincerely,
Brandon
Without going into a discussion on which ROM is "better" and what criteria should be used the decide the "betterness" of a particular ROM, the easiest option is to install the WWE edition of the same ROM version you have installed already.
You will need to either make the phone SuperCID, or better, use the new SSPL method.
I've got an Orange M3100 and i'm thinking of upgrading it to WM6 but I want to ask a question.
Is it really worth it?
Please answer truthfully, those of you that have done it what are the real pro's of do it.
If you can follow directions in the Wiki and are not totally retarded you will be fine upgrading to WM 6. I'm using the Cingular build here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=308378
It works flawlessly. I haven' thad any issue and battery life has been excellent.
Do you need WM6? Nope.
Is it nice? Yes
Reason enough for me are the bug fixes over WM5 and HTM email support in Poutlook. That alone is enough of a reason for me.
Enjoy.
Put me down as a "YES"
Although I agree that WM6 isn't something worth upgrading for on it's own, I have found something that is. On my original WM5 T-Mobile ROM I was resetting the phone at least once a day because of freezes. Since the second generation WM6 ROM here, I've only ever had one freeze - and that was when I was being frankly stupid with about 20 installs in one go!
Is it worth upgrading for WM6? Maybe
Is it worth upgrading to a rock solid, reliable phone? Definitely!
another pointless thread... guys why dont you read the wiki??? or use the search function...
and if you dont like WM6 you can always revert back... jesus mate... try something for yourself for once...
For the shear use of a "phone", upgrading isn't necessary or even worth it...if ya just care about using the phone for calling WM5 is fine. However, if you're like me and want to tweak your phone, then there's a ton of pros for upgrading to WM6. Speed for one, more memory, better tweaks than the stock ROM, and a more stable OS IMHO. I like being apart of a small, but growing percentage of people that take the risk to have the latest ROM released and different than your average Joe with the same phone. People that just make and take calls are boring! Those of us that can turn a cam flash into a flashlight, or integrate a Treo born thread app on a WM6 platform like to be different! I like the risk when flashing, but then again I jumped outta planes and fought in Iraq twice, so my mentality is different than "average".
Good luck in your decision! -fin
walshieau said:
another pointless thread... guys why dont you read the wiki??? or use the search function...
and if you dont like WM6 you can always revert back... jesus mate... try something for yourself for once...
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Always one prick about. I have read the wiki and and know what i'm doing I've been around here for long enough. Read the original post. I'm asking if its really worth it, i'm always messing around with my phone and i'm actually quite happy with the latest ROM from orange. I asking for people personal opinions on the matter.
If you aint got anything constructive to say get the fukk out of here [email protected]
I have an AT&T 8525 arriving tomorrow and I'm so excited by the possibilities... but at the same time I'm just by all the different jargon and things that everyone seems to know about. I'm coming from a Blackjack which I've hacked the crap out of but this just seems so much more complicated. Anyway, hello, if you have any suggestions for someone who has never had an HTC before, please post them up for me, because I really just don't know where to start.
Thanks!
Start here, read and learn
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Hermes
welcome to the club, please read all the Sticky topics on the main page of HERMES Upgrading ect...
if you still have any questions or concerns then post your next question...
happy reading
Oh god... come in sucker.
First of all, before you even start using your phone, SIM unlock it, super CID it, install Bootloader 1.11 but not 1.04 unless you have Olipro 1.02b or you have acces to KITL, then flash every ROM you can find until sleep deprivation affects your marriage your job and you forget the name of your eldest child.
Then after two months of owning a phone that almost never is in a working state, you'll get it stuck in bootloader mode just after you suffered your first white screen of death, and in desperation you will call your carrier with a string of lies and send it back for a replacement.
Then you start the whole process again...
Have fun... not.
esseff said:
Oh god... come in sucker.
First of all, before you even start using your phone, SIM unlock it, super CID it, install Bootloader 1.11 but not 1.04 unless you have Olipro 1.02b or you have acces to KITL, then flash every ROM you can find until sleep deprivation affects your marriage your job and you forget the name of your eldest child.
Then after two months of owning a phone that almost never is in a working state, you'll get it stuck in bootloader mode just after you suffered your first white screen of death, and in desperation you will call your carrier with a string of lies and send it back for a replacement.
Then you start the whole process again...
Have fun... not.
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LOL - that is funny, but a little pessimistic.
If you have hacked your Blackjack to shreads, you will have no problem.
Start with MrVanx Upgrade Guides to see the process.
Then, once you have a feel for the bits and pieces of the process, read through the wiki and forums and you will be able to sort through the threds of relavence. It is really not THAT hard once you have done a little homework.
Most important thing - the first thing you should do is upgrade the SPL to Olipro's HardSPLv7 - do that first - that way you can recover from just about anything.
Rest assured, if you have a little experience, educate yourself and follow the guides to get started, your device will work 99% of the time. Don't fret.
I am also one of those new users and my 8525 is coming in a few days but i'm a bit technical about computers so i tend to grab it quickly, i DON'T want to play around with my mobile, i just want to unlock it, then put it to some good windows mobile 6, and then forget about it till windows mobile 7 comes, does that mean i use pof's sim unlocker v3a to unlock my phone...
alternative is Hard-SPL, if thati have seen that making your phone supercid seems dangerous and the safer s true i simply apply hard-spl on my phone? (though i don't even know what it does if its a utility or a piece of code integrated into your phone or a custom bootloader ), after applying hardspl, i simply follow the legitimate official instructions to install TyTN Mobile 6 official rom as if my 8525 was a HTC TyTN?
I just want my final goal to be Mobile 6.0 Unlocked in the safest go...
encryptedmaniac said:
I am also one of those new users and my 8525 is coming in a few days but i'm a bit technical about computers so i tend to grab it quickly, i DON'T want to play around with my mobile, i just want to unlock it, then put it to some good windows mobile 6, and then forget about it till windows mobile 7 comes, does that mean i use pof's sim unlocker v3a to unlock my phone...
alternative is Hard-SPL, if thati have seen that making your phone supercid seems dangerous and the safer s true i simply apply hard-spl on my phone? (though i don't even know what it does if its a utility or a piece of code integrated into your phone or a custom bootloader ), after applying hardspl, i simply follow the legitimate official instructions to install TyTN Mobile 6 official rom as if my 8525 was a HTC TyTN?
I just want my final goal to be Mobile 6.0 Unlocked in the safest go...
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How do you know that WM5 isn't good enough for you? If the only thing you want on your phone is WM6, why didn't you buy one with this pre-installed? Maybe you should spend some more time reading before you get, and break your new toy - all the best links are already posted above and if you'd read them you wouldn't be posting these questions.
todd_jg said:
LOL - that is funny, but a little pessimistic.
If you have hacked your Blackjack to shreads, you will have no problem.
Start with MrVanx Upgrade Guides to see the process.
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Pessimistic?
That link lists no fewer than five operating systems, for one device, all WM6!!!
Which one works??? This is ridiculous!
This is worse than linux!
...head...spinning...
Thanks for the advice to everyone who gave it... I got my Hermes at 1 this afternoon and it's been sitting on my desk, charging and keeping me from really getting any work done all afternoon. I'm going to assume that all the acronyms y'all are throwing at me will be explained in the wikis...
Don't freak them out guys , get it unlock it install official go to bed happy, if you want to go crazy over installing different versions of roms all the time do so but check the safety steps first (many guides here, Mr. Vanx's is a great place to start) mind you there is no 100% safe option and most of the roms are more or less the same, you can always add cab files of things you want, it's better to stick to a clean rom. If you play with it there might be a chance you screw it... badly (even if you know what you're doing)
Me I just updated the official WM6 (which was released sooooo long later) thankfully in your case you don't have to wait.
Either way congrads on the phone and enjoy it, some small issues aside you have a great piece of hardware there.
CSMR said:
Pessimistic?
That link lists no fewer than five operating systems, for one device, all WM6!!!
Which one works??? This is ridiculous!
This is worse than linux!
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Nothing is worse than Linux!!!!!
d.butters said:
I have an AT&T 8525 arriving tomorrow and I'm so excited by the possibilities... but at the same time I'm just by all the different jargon and things that everyone seems to know about. I'm coming from a Blackjack which I've hacked the crap out of but this just seems so much more complicated. Anyway, hello, if you have any suggestions for someone who has never had an HTC before, please post them up for me, because I really just don't know where to start.
Thanks!
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welcome... i was like you for a while... i'm a new hermes 8525 owner too... read and learn before you really dive in... understand the terminology and jargon for a while... get used to using your phone in stock mode for a while before moving forward... being familiar with it is important... then the first thing you should install when you decide to is hardspl... good luck...
thanks again to everyone! I have to say that the MrVanx Upgrade Guides link was the best, most helpful thing anyone could have pointed me at - step-by-step instructions to flash my hermes with a new ROM. It was great. The forums also yielded CABs and all sorts of other helpful links that have set me up with a near - perfect phone.
Of course, now I'm bored. what's the next step? 'cooking' my own ROMs? where do I start with that? what are 'kitchens'? I know there's lots out there. thanks again for the help y'all have given!!!
esseff said:
Nothing is worse than Linux!!!!!
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hey now hey now, that's a bit mean. Linux does after all give you the whole house, while Microsoft only gives you the Windows
ok, maybe i'm just causing a bit of trouble hehe... just ignore me hehehe
d.butters said:
thanks again to everyone! I have to say that the MrVanx Upgrade Guides link was the best, most helpful thing anyone could have pointed me at - step-by-step instructions to flash my hermes with a new ROM. It was great. The forums also yielded CABs and all sorts of other helpful links that have set me up with a near - perfect phone.
Of course, now I'm bored. what's the next step? 'cooking' my own ROMs? where do I start with that? what are 'kitchens'? I know there's lots out there. thanks again for the help y'all have given!!!
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So, I can't read your nick without thinking of the Lethal Weapon movie with Chris Rock. He was detective Butters or something. Anywa, I digress...
I think your next logical step is one of two paths:
1. Cooking and coding - either for yourself or for a new release, if you come up with something you think is different or cool for the community - home cooked customization apps are quite popular - settings backup/recover solutions too - fewer options out there for that right now
or
2. Documenting - maybe something you could work with MrVanx on if you want to pick up an area that is not well documented adn try to document it for folks
For cooking, start HERE IN THE WIKI and see what you can figure out. I am not sure if all the latest kitchen releases are in here, but it is a good start. Follow the links then do some additional searches - lot's of cool stuff... enjoy...
**THIS IS NOT A NOOB QUESTION, IM NOT ASKING HOW TO INSTALL THIS, OR ANYTHING OF THAT NATURE!! SO PLEASE DON'T BLOW IT OFF LIKE IT'S A STRAIGHT NOOB ?? THAT WILL TAKE DAYS TO EXPLAIN**
Hey guys, Tweak here. Guess what. Just bought a Titan. I've been running my faithful Vogue for the past year, but with my new business opening up, I really need the WifiRouter , which I have to recommend! BUT I NEED YOU HELP!!! PLEASE!!!
I want to use the BuilOS PPCgeeks Kitchen to install a custom ROM on my new Titan (of course) , but I am so caught up in the Vogue world, that I am lost over here in Titan land.
All I need to know is where to find a good ROM , preferably Alltel ROM, but pretty much any ROM , that will upgrade my RADIO version, so I can use the BuildOS ROM's.
I guess you have to upgrade the radio in the Titan, just as you do in the Vogue to use these ROMs, correct?
Also, which build , or what ROM do you recommend me trying out first.
Thanks guys. I really hope you help a long time XDA bud out here.
I have used several of DCD's Titan ROM's and I love them. BTW, I have an Alltel PPC-6800. I just flashed mine again with DCD's newest ROM 3.2.5 and I am using radio 3.42.30, with no problems yet. Good luck and welcome to Titan world.
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I have used several of DCD's Titan ROM's and I love them. BTW, I have an Alltel PPC-6800. I just flashed mine again with DCD's newest ROM 3.2.5 and I am using radio 3.42.30, with no problems yet. Good luck and welcome to Titan world.
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+1 on everything he said
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+1 on everything he said
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X2 on that
Are you dead set on using BuildOS from ppcgeeks?
I would use roms based off dcd's kitchen only. ppckitchen doesn't seem nearly as stable as dcd's roms.
I just bought my girlfriend a vogue yesterday and we were upgrading the rom and everything. Theyre basically the same in regards to upgrading
Agree with the majority
I have to agree that the DCD ROMs have treated me the best.
I have tried the ppcgeeks Kitchen and always come back.
haha thats silly. your claim to fame is creating a thread in r&d. had to point it out
but yeah, use DCD's latest, and 3.42.30 radio. you can't go wrong.
Thanks Guys!!!
Hey guys. Thanks for the info. Im gettin ready to try DCD's kitchen right now.
And hey agaus, thats not my ticket to fame. But that is how most people on this site know me is for answering things in that thread. Everyone has clicked it one time or another.
The only reason I mentioned it here is for this reason. If a noob posted a question in here , and has very little knowledge of flashing, most of the time, the thread is completley looked over. I just wanted to make it a point that I wasn't a noob, and that I just needed some guidance here in the titan world.
Also. I miss my Vogue. I loved my Vogue. But the Titan ROCKS! The only thing that actually made me keep it was the ability to use WifiRouter. I run my laptop, my iPod touch, and everything off it. I even created an app to run along side with WifiRouter, that will allow to connect to my PS3.
Get wifirouter if you do not have it.
Thanks guys.
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Hey guys. Thanks for the info. Im gettin ready to try DCD's kitchen right now.
And hey agaus, thats not my ticket to fame. But that is how most people on this site know me is for answering things in that thread. Everyone has clicked it one time or another.
The only reason I mentioned it here is for this reason. If a noob posted a question in here , and has very little knowledge of flashing, most of the time, the thread is completley looked over. I just wanted to make it a point that I wasn't a noob, and that I just needed some guidance here in the titan world.
Also. I miss my Vogue. I loved my Vogue. But the Titan ROCKS! The only thing that actually made me keep it was the ability to use WifiRouter. I run my laptop, my iPod touch, and everything off it. I even created an app to run along side with WifiRouter, that will allow to connect to my PS3.
Get wifirouter if you do not have it.
Thanks guys.
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If you were "not a NOOB" then perhaps your first two posts here in "Titan Land" would have been researched prior to posting. I'm sorry to say this, but there is plenty of information about kitchens and w/e else. And most of which is preference to the user. The DCD roms are about the best you'll find here, or anywhere else for that matter. Making more then half of your first post about how much of an un-noob you are doesn't help your case when you ask for help. Just ask it like anybody else would and I'm sure it would be answered. Even if answered before.
Try them both out....PPCGeeks kitchen and DCD......there are a lot of good chefs......try NO2Chem his tools are great and so are his ROMS......Nexvision is great and JD's ROMS which you should know if you came from the Vogue.....try em all and see what YOU like.....that is the best way....
you can always try and step outside the box of dcd and no2chem, and try out JDs rom. he just began working on the titan again about 2 weeks ago, and i think the speed of his rom alone justifies why people should atleast give it a spin.
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=32990
(the latest rom on there labeled 8-4-08 has a defect with reading sd cards. but he fixed it already in his test rom and i think a solid release should be out pretty soon)
but for your radio....why not just flash the radio only via sd? its so much easier. 3.42.50 is out now, seems to be getting a good response
Hi, this is my first time posting so I'll apoligize in advance if this has been brought up already. I have a Cingular/AT&T 8525 with WM6 and I am wondering if there are any new updates/upgrades available. I feal like this phone could do SO much more but it's so plain and boring. I don't know if my phone qualifies for WM6.5 but it looks WAY better than what I'm running. Anyway, any suggestions would be great. Even if it's like changing the font, overview, setup, today screen...something with more flashiness!! Thanks.
Go to WM06 section of the forum and look at the roms available...
And if you DON'T Hard SPL 1st, we don't wanna know about your brand new brick...