I am new here, but after reading a lot, is there still any good reason to cid-unlock a G4? I mean, I can upgrade the radio just fine, now I can even upgrade the OS, the only thing I can't upgrade is the boot (but that's ok, I got 2.xx from an official rom) and the extended rom (and I really can't understant why I need it, it just saves time, I can manually install the programs I need). Am I missing something here?
Yes,
One of the main reason, imei.uk is getting a huge loss, if you wanna give them bread you should unlock your CID
I'm new here too Paulo. I think I successfully unlocked the SID/CID using lokiwiz02b.
Do you know if there's a way to verify the CID is unlocked. I read about how to check the SID though.
technicallysound said:
I'm new here too Paulo. I think I successfully unlocked the SID/CID using lokiwiz02b.
Do you know if there's a way to verify the CID is unlocked. I read about how to check the SID though.
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I'm surprised you got all the way to reading how to use lokiwiz02b and skipped the part about it not being for G4 devices.
So, no your phone isn't unlocked. But it doesn't need to be either for just flashing ROMs.
samy.3660 said:
Yes,
One of the main reason, imei.uk is getting a huge loss, if you wanna give them bread you should unlock your CID
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Good joke . Imei-ckeck made way too much money on this allready (mine too). Couldn't care less even if they went broke .
if you want to change the imei on your G4 , you need to CID unlock, so that's 1 reason to cid unlock
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I know there is no free utility yet to CID unlock the G4 devices. Those of you that have unlocked your G4's at the IMEI-Check site http://www.imei-check.co.uk/m3000unlock.php Is this just a SIM unlock or also a CID unlock?
If it is a CID unlock are you now able to make a ROM backup using the R2SD method shown in post 8 of this thread? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=258819&highlight=r2sd+backup
This is my main reason for wanting to CID unlock. I want to be able to make a full ROM backup with this method, before trying any new ROMs. My CID locked 9100 gives me this error "You didn't get the proper security level to download a specific image" when I try a R2SD backup
d0ug said:
I know there is no free utility yet to CID unlock the G4 devices. Those of you that have unlocked your G4's at the IMEI-Check site http://www.imei-check.co.uk/m3000unlock.php Is this just a SIM unlock or also a CID unlock?
If it is a CID unlock are you now able to make a ROM backup using the R2SD method shown in post 8 of this thread? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=258819&highlight=r2sd+backup
This is my main reason for wanting to CID unlock. I want to be able to make a full ROM backup with this method, before trying any new ROMs. My CID locked 9100 gives me this error "You didn't get the proper security level to download a specific image" when I try a R2SD backup
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Go ahead and you will be able to do r2sd backups and restore after CID unlock at imei-check.co.uk.
Nishad
So does this CID unlock the phone if it's a G4, you're a bit unclear?
IMEI check is SIM and CID unlocking. If you are gonna do it, see my post here.
yes... using the method availble at imei-check.co.uk will very much CID-unlock your device
NOTE: There's been a lot of posts regarding this subject but the fact of the matter is that you do in fact get your phone CID-unlocked at this website despite what you may have read in other threads...
What are the security or other implications of handing over my IMEI to them? Is that safe?
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What are the security or other implications of handing over my IMEI to them? Is that safe?
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No worse than handing over your credit card info to them.
IMEI Check is a reputable company, and doing what they do, it is in their best interest to safeguard your information. Also, I've never seen any complaints against them that weren't about how much they charged for their service.
They DO intimate that they can re-lock your phone remotely if you back out on payment, but if you deal in good faith, I don't ever see that as a problem.
Of course, YMMV, but probably not.
How many..?
Hi,
I've heard that my device will be CID locked again after applying one of the ROMs. Does this mean I have to CID unlock my device again??
Just to be sure I can restore my backup ;-)
I've already paid for the CID unlocking, but it seems that the extended rom specifically NEVER installs. This, to me, seems like its not unlocked if that isn't working, or at least not fully unlocked. I've run the unlocking tool (from imei-check) 3 times now, I believe, and installed many different ROMs.
How can you CHECK if the unlock worked on a G4?
moonrock You may check CID having started Prophet in mode bootloader and having started mtty142 and take command info 2 - You see your CID.
imei-check does not do unlocking ExtROM this absolutely area miscellaneous.
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moonrock .....having started mtty142 and take command info 2 - You see your CID....
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Could you please explain how to do it more clear? Thanks!
errmm, yeah that wasnt clear! i dont understand.
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moonrock You may check CID having started Prophet in mode bootloader and having started mtty142 and take command info 2 - You see your CID.
imei-check does not do unlocking ExtROM this absolutely area miscellaneous.
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Check this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=290831 where it's explained what arc is talking about in first paragraph
Second paragraph means that ExtROM isn't unlocked by IMEI-check because it's an independent partition of the DOC chip which is write-protected in G3 2.xx and all G4
HELP!!!
hi everyone I know im posting in the wroge thread but this site is really huge, I need any help cuz i begin to hate my ppc and im stiil a student and cant buy another one cuz my father is really anoying, so i got an i-mate pda2 which i really love its design but the prob. is wm2003se there is no other roms i can find + i dont know how to get this cid unlocker and any rom just any , i will be pleased v.much for help i want the links where i can find a cid unlocker and a new rom which can run manila or wm5,6 plz helppp :'(
i was gonna unlock my 8525 via pof's unlocker and downgrade solution when i read this post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1062526&postcount=7 I then figured it wouldnt hurt to just called cingular and see if they would give me the unlock code...i placed a call to cingular's international department and get them to send me the unlock code in less then 12 hours by telling them i was planning to go on a trip out of the country on sunday and what is the soonest i could get the code..i then acted like i didnt know anything about getting a phone unlocked and he recommended that i place international roaming on my phone yada yada yada..... i declined and asked if i would still be able to roam while out of the country.. he said yes... i said thats fine.. but i would also like to have the phone unlocked incase i would like to buy a sim and use it for making local calls in the country that i will be in.. he said sure no problem... he submitted a request and in less then 12 hours i had the unlock code in my mailbox... i hope this helps anyone on cingular trying to unlock there phone with no modding...
now the second part of this thread is relating to the bootloader versions.. now i know that my bootloader is 1.6.. is it necessary for me to still use pof's method in combination with the downgrade in order to supercid unlock my phone in order to flash the rom with different hermes roms even tho' my phones sim is unlocked....is it possible to use pof's file to supercid unlock and then reflash back the same radio with no patch and same cingular rom to have the phone back to fully stock out of the box with the exception of having it be fully unlocked with the sim and sid..... also.. .is the same necessary for flashing the radio with different versions??..from what i understand you can "unhind the ext roms to see them but not activate themm.. and in order to use the features in the extended roms do i need to be supercid unlocked in order to unlock the ext.roms??i have fit4cat tweaker installed already and it makes the changes making me feel like i am accessing the ext.rom features already... and if so when i cid unlock my phone can i just pick and chose the .cabs to install from the different options on the different roms... .. i am not in an area that supports Edge .. but when i am will it display so on my screen with a E? or is that a mod i will need to do as well.. and i also see a feature in fit4cat that enables hsdpa.. i thought my phone would default using the connectin if it was available.. am i wrong.. and the ptt hack that someone on this forum created as a .cabs.. do i need to have it supercid ulocked to use that as well...
im sorry if alot of you have answered these questions time and time again.. i have really tried to answer my own questions for the last 8 hours or so with reading the forums and wiki's.. after a while it becomes a blur...
Ps. when using mtty.exe and i hook it up following exact settings and instructions when it connects it says CLIENTCLIENT then i hit the I to type info and i get CLIENT again.. no prompt.. ??help<< i was not in bootloader mode...oops.. it worked fine after i placed it in bootloader mode
thanks in advance
Abe
honestabe said:
now i know that my bootloader is 1.6.. is it necessary for me to still use pof's method in combination with the downgrade in order to supercid unlock my phone in order to flash the rom with different hermes roms even tho' my phones sim is unlocked....
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Yes, you need to patch the radio to CID-Unlock. It doesn't matter if the phone is SIM-Locked or not. This needs bootloader 1.04, you can have it by flashing cingular's 1.30 rom.
honestabe said:
is it possible to use pof's file to supercid unlock and then reflash back the same radio with no patch and same cingular rom to have the phone back to fully stock out of the box with the exception of having it be fully unlocked with the sim and sid..... also.. .is the same necessary for flashing the radio with different versions??
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Yes, it is possible but you need to downgrade your bootloader to 1.04 for this, otherwise you won't be able to flash any radio (patched or not).
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from what i understand you can "unhind the ext roms to see them but not activate themm.. and in order to use the features in the extended roms do i need to be supercid unlocked in order to unlock the ext.roms??i have fit4cat tweaker installed already and it makes the changes making me feel like i am accessing the ext.rom features already... and if so when i cid unlock my phone can i just pick and chose the .cabs to install from the different options on the different roms...
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You need to have a SuperCID phone in order to UNLOCK the extrom, this means WRITE to it (i.e. delete cab files you don't need and use it as storage space, or put signed cab files from other ExtROM). If your Hermes is not SuperCID you'll be able to unhide it, but will not be able to unlock it.
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i am not in an area that supports Edge .. but when i am will it display so on my screen with a E? or is that a mod i will need to do as well..
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It will not display "E", and the previous hack used in HTC Wizard for this doesn't work on Hermes. It displays "G" if you are under GPRS or EDGE coverage and "U" or "3G" if you are under UMTS/3G or HSDPA coverage.
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and i also see a feature in fit4cat that enables hsdpa.. i thought my phone would default using the connectin if it was available.. am i wrong..
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Cingular ROMs have HSDPA enabled by default, you don't need to use that option from fit4cat hermes tweaker (it won't hurt if you do it), but it is there because not all roms have HSDPA enabled by default.
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and the ptt hack that someone on this forum created as a .cabs.. do i need to have it supercid ulocked to use that as well...
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No, you don't need SuperCID to use this.
honestabe said:
im sorry if alot of you have answered these questions time and time again.. i have really tried to answer my own questions for the last 8 hours or so with reading the forums and wiki's.. after a while it becomes a blur...
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ALL I answered is in the wiki, but probably explained in a bad way because I am not english native speaker, I would be very glad if you EDIT the wiki and explain it better/clearer than it is, so other people like you can understand it next time they read.
one more question... if i flash back to the cingular rom that is a 1.6 bootloader after i have done this whole process am i still able to flash to whatever i want providing that i have flashed from 1.6 to 1.4 unlocked sim and supercid previously.. basically does this flash the cidlock back on it.. or must i keep the bootloader in 1.4 in order to keep flashing roms
On another note.. i read these forums all night for the first time and i want to tell you Pof that you are the most helpful person i have ever come across on ANY forum board and the xda members are lucky to have you here... also extremely intelligent... thanks
extremely grateful
Abe
The main reason to SuperCID your Hermes is to be able to flash "whatever" rom you like, without having to bother with bootloader versions. If you use SIM & CID unlocker v2a to make your Hermes SuperCID it will be SuperCID forever, so the CID lock will not be back anymore.
Basically, after your device is SuperCID you only need to go back to bootloader 1.04 if you want to be able to flash extracted radio-upgrade only, as this is not possible with other bootloader versions.
is the patch u put in the radio overwritten when i apply a new rom???
the radio file is included in the rom you flash right?
or you can just find the radio file and flash that alone??
does the radio flash require it to be hooked via active synch or dissable
i have gotten Error 120 country id error twice now trying to flash ur radio flash.. any advice?
i should be outa noob questions shortly..
thank you again
if all goes well(im in the process of this whole precedure as i type...30% now) i shall write this in the wiki in n00b language...
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is the patch u put in the radio overwritten when i apply a new rom???
the radio file is included in the rom you flash right?
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Yes and yes
honestabe said:
or you can just find the radio file and flash that alone??
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Yes, see wiki:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_ExtractedRadioRoms
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does the radio flash require it to be hooked via active synch or dissable
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It doesn't really matter, as the RUU will kill activesync anyway, but I always recommend to disable activesync and start the update from bootloader mode (tri-color screen).
honestabe said:
i have gotten Error 120 country id error twice now trying to flash ur radio flash.. any advice?
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Follow all the instructions, read and read
honestabe said:
if all goes well(im in the process of this whole precedure as i type...30% now) i shall write this in the wiki in n00b language...
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Thanks, that would be great!
And good luck with the flashing
presto everything is working fine all done..
when it gave me the error i just closed the flash and restarted it...(just like what it said to do in the "if your having problems flashing post"
ran ur unlocker supercid program.. and voila
anyway.. ill write up somethin real user friendly..
thanks again Pof
-abe
Hey abe,
thanks for the tip on getting my phone unlocked...It worked like a charm.
pof: probably question for you.
Is it possible to revert Super-CID? To have device with "normal" CID. Is this would require a lot of work?
I am thinking about program with list of CIDs to lock.
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pof: probably question for you.
Is it possible to revert Super-CID? To have device with "normal" CID. Is this would require a lot of work?
I am thinking about program with list of CIDs to lock.
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Why do you want to do such thing??
Everyone want super-cid to unlock the hermes not to lock it with a CID
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Why do you want to do such thing??
Everyone want super-cid to unlock the hermes not to lock it with a CID
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In example, to recover the warranty.
Pawlisko said:
pof: probably question for you.
Is it possible to revert Super-CID? To have device with "normal" CID. Is this would require a lot of work?
I am thinking about program with list of CIDs to lock.
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Good idea.. i didnt flash my Vario II because I dont want to loose my warranty!
I even want to buy the program that can manage to recover the Original CID!
I hope someone can develope that piece of software, so i can flash my vario!!
Next version of the Hermes unlocker will allow you to select if you want to SIM-unlock, CID-unlock or both. I'm working on it, so please be patient
Going back to your original CID once you've already set it SuperCID can't be done easily, but if you _really_, _really_, _really_, need it because of warranty reasons, PM me and hopefully we can do anything.
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Next version of the Hermes unlocker will allow you to select if you want to SIM-unlock, CID-unlock or both. I'm working on it, so please be patient
Going back to your original CID once you've already set it SuperCID can't be done easily, but if you _really_, _really_, _really_, need it because of warranty reasons, PM me and hopefully we can do anything.
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Pof, you are to good for this world! But i dont need it now, I like to have a apps that re-CID my device before I need to claim warranty.
I dont like the idea that i'm not sure if I can re-CID my device after that I have flashed my vario...
Sorry for the bad english!
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Why do you want to do such thing??
Everyone want super-cid to unlock the hermes not to lock it with a CID
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I do belive that somehow HTC with upgrade to AKU3.x (I hope it is AKU3.x) will find way of locking SuperCID.
And with all information we have got - change of SPL and IPL to prevent Radio upgrade - I belive that it might be problem for all SuperCIDs.
Just want to be on safe side when it will happen.
pof: just think about way of restoring CID - whit is what my guts are saying.
All preproduction devices are SuperCID, and HTC will not lock it, it is the way they use to give the operators / manufacturers the ability to do some stuff we 'users' can not do
Don't worry about this... they can prevent the radio ROM or the bootloader to be flashed or downgraded, as they did with bootloader 1.09 and softbank's 1.14 radio and most probably will do it with newer radios with radio bootloader V1.008,... but SuperCID will stay there, they will not change your CID with a ROM upgrade
I might send my 8525 back to Cingular for a defective screen, do you guys think they'll deny my claim since I've Super-CID unlocked my phone??
i would just hard reset it and send it back.. how would they know??? plus ur not sayin its a software issue.. so i would think they wont be lookin' for that.. im pretty sure they would just make sure it wasnt in water.. and..it didnt look like a dog chewed it.. then they will probably load up software on it and exchange it to someone else... i would just do it.. but thats me
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i would just hard reset it and send it back.. how would they know??? plus ur not sayin its a software issue.. so i would think they wont be lookin' for that.. im pretty sure they would just make sure it wasnt in water.. and..it didnt look like a dog chewed it.. then they will probably load up software on it and exchange it to someone else... i would just do it.. but thats me
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well, someone has been refused...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1081701&highlight=refuse#post1081701
Yeas, Ive read the thread...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=293665
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Does the info need updating, or do I need to do something different...
v3a [03-04-2007] - New RUU will make sure HardSPL-1.40 is installed before flashing the radio
Now the unlocking process is faster & safer
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I have SPL-2.10 on my phone, not 1.40 as stated above....
v2 [12-11-2006] - updated to patched radio 1.16
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Q: After finishing the process it still asks for unlock code, what should I do?
A: Make sure you have radio version 1.16 and run Herm_Unlock_v3.exe on your phone and select unlock option. If entering any unlock code fails, please repeat the unlocking process again (you did something wrong the first time).
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My Radio is 1.38.00.01.. will using this downgrade it to 1.16??, or do I need to pu 1.16 on before using this tool...??
Ot, once it is unlocked, can I simply stick a new radio on it???
Do I alsoneed to have the working orange sim in their.. as if I put the t-mobile sim in, it is just asking for the simlock code...
As ther eis always a chance of bricking your phone, I just want to be sure everything is ok, before I do it..!! I have the offical wm6 rom installed.
Thanks
Anyone...???
So no one has used this to unlock a phone that has HardSPL-2.10, or a later Radio....??? or reflashed their phone after unlocking...???
Once unlocked, does it remain unlocked for good???
PATIENCE....let us answer when we can!!
Your SPL will end up being downgraded to 1.40.olipro......but thats not a problem as you can just flash HardSPL 2.10.olipro again.
Your Radio WILL be downgraded to 1.16 as this is a hacked radio image which allows the SIM/CID to be unlocked.
You really should update the radio once the device is unlocked since there are BIG improvments with the new ones.
ANY SIM card will work in the device once the device is unlocked....the sim pin pad pops up when the SIM card requires the sim pin code. Obviously if you know the pin you can turn this off in phone settings.
Soory for my impatience.. Ive been biting at the bit all day, after my contract ended and waiting over 2 weeks to sort a new deal out... I was so eager to get my handset up and running...!!!
Thanks for your information... I was unsure whether you could simply re-apply the radio and spl after the unlock....
Maybe this info could be added to the sticky.. after reading through the 50 odd pages, there were many such requests, with no answers....
So as I understand, downlograding to the hacked radio simply facilitates the unlocking, rather than providing the unlock, so flashing back up after, and replacing the hacked radio with a genuine one does not reverse the unlock...
Seriously though, this could do with being on the appropriate thread about SIM/Cid unlocking....!!
Discovering this site about a month ago, and what developers and contributors have done has breathed new life into what was already a great little device...
THANK YOU!!
Which is better? I don't want to mod my phone that much, and like to stick with retail roms....thanks
MakaveliReturns said:
Which is better? I don't want to mod my phone that much, and like to stick with retail roms....thanks
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Then leave, no offense.
If you don't want to mod it, then take what your provider gave you and be happy. If not, then download some commercial applications.
But if you want to improve your phone, and make it realize it's full potential, then you are gonna have to get in to some mods.
Sorry mate, I'm just fed up with all the "how do I make my phone neato keano" questions from people.
It takes some willingness to experiment, some computer know how, and 99 times out of 100 all will be well. (BTW, I'm the one out of the hundred, I totally bricked one).
Retail ROMS, no such thing, you can't buy em.
Heh, jeez man, you seem to make alot of assumptions based on no information.
I am very computer literate, and I am passing down my phone to somebody else who has no clue how to do this stuff and probably does not care for it either.
I had a cooked ROM on it, but went back to a retail SPL and installed the retail AT&T (Beta?) WM6 Rom on my 8525.
Seriously though, you shouldn't assume such things about people especially over the internet.
The key benefit to HardSPL is that it protects accidental overwrite of SPL & IPL. Basically, it protects against bricking the phone. If it were me, I would always keep HardSPL, even if I were running a retail ROM. It really only affords protection during flashing process, so if you are not going to flash anything, you really don't need it - kinda like wearing a condom whike you aren't having sex, I guess. However, unlike the condom example, when you do decide to flash again, you would have to put HardSPL on there, which is itself a flashing process, so you would be vulnerable.
Always practice safe flashing!
Thanks, Todd.
I think you already answered about this in the other thread...but not yet. I can't get a retail ROM to install without extracting it first..even on SPL-Retail
lol i remember when i got my x01ht... i wanted to keep it softbank and just have this sexy phone from japan.... I read japanese so that wouldnt have been a problem and I am moving back to japan next year, so I thought it was perfect.
I had to unlock it using a code (which worked after flashing to hardspl 1.10 and then back to hardspl 2.10), but softbank still had that stupid welcome.exe issue. So i flashed to HTC's WM6 wwe rom. No more 'neato keano' for me.
Then i discovered letsjapan and ime3_1qvga (whatever its called)... I can have my japanese functionality with an english rom!! w00t.
Then i discovered schaps... I am so far from neato keano... but still barely breaking the surface.
I know this story is pointless, but if anyone is reading this with the 'neato keano' idea... get real, try some stuff and you will never go back (unless for warranty purposes ).
MakaveliReturns said:
Thanks, Todd.
I think you already answered about this in the other thread...but not yet. I can't get a retail ROM to install without extracting it first..even on SPL-Retail
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Is your phone CID unlocked? Maybe you have a mismatched CID. HardSPL bypasses the CID check, retail does not.
todd_jg said:
Is your phone CID unlocked? Maybe you have a mismatched CID. HardSPL bypasses the CID check, retail does not.
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Hi Todd,
my phone is unlocked via a code from AT&T, so I didn't use any of the tools found on this forum. So I think it is still SuperCIDed??
The updater just crashes, I posted a screenshot in the other thread. If I extract the directory and run the RUU by itself it flashes fine.
Maybe because I am trying to flash the same ROM again on top of the same one??
MakaveliReturns said:
Hi Todd,
my phone is unlocked via a code from AT&T, so I didn't use any of the tools found on this forum. So I think it is still SuperCIDed??
The updater just crashes, I posted a screenshot in the other thread. If I extract the directory and run the RUU by itself it flashes fine.
Maybe because I am trying to flash the same ROM again on top of the same one??
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Well, the code almost certainly would not superCID your phone. Only remove the SIM lock. The RUU is checking the CID restriction on the phone and disallowing the flash. The only flash that would work without unpacking is the one intended for and released by your carrier - AT&T rom to AT&T rom, for example. As I mentioned, the reason unpacking works is because Oli's RUU bypasses the CID check. Does seem odd that the same ROM won't flash though...