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Hi everybody,
This is my first post here and first of all id like to say "THANKS FOLKS" for the great job you are doing here just for your passion!
Im writing for Italy and im about to get an "english" (from U.K.) genuine and not branded Htc Tytn so, dont worry, im not about to bother you with questions about italian dumped roms or stuff like that!
Tytn will be my first pda phone and my first "experience" with WM 5 so, before posting, i tried to read as much as i could just to avoid posting old questions, but i didnt find anything to make it bright: if id like to upgrade the rom, the extended rom, the radio rom of my tytn with a genuine htc rom, extended rom and radio rom without upgrading the bootloader, how can i do that?Is it possible?if yes, how?
I ask that coz first, i suppose my tytn will come with the 1.04 bootloader since its brand new, second coz id like to be able to just upgrade the radio rom without upgrading all the rest and third, coz im not really intersted in making it "super cid" or anything else since i wont mount any other immage than the htc ones...
I dont know if i said something wrong or already asked and, if yes, my apologies...if not, i really hope to get some answers...
Tnx everybody and see you next post...
Greeting, Jello
Jello79 said:
if id like to upgrade the rom, the extended rom, the radio rom of my tytn with a genuine htc rom, extended rom and radio rom without upgrading the bootloader, how can i do that?Is it possible?
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Hi Jello79 and welcome to XDA-Dev, I see you've done your homework of reading and searching before asking, and no... your question has not been asked before, so we're not going to kick your ass yet (just kidding!)
If you extract a shipped ROM you will see there's a NBH file which contains the following ROM parts:
Bootloader: IPL.nb & SPL.nb
Splash Screens: MainSplash.nb & SubSplash.nb
Radio: GSM.nb
Extended rom: ExtROM.nb
WM5: OS.nb
This NBH file has a signature generated with a private HTC certificate, and if you change a single bit of it, the signature will not be valid, so the bootloader will not accept to upgrade the device showing an "invalid cert error (255)".
So the answer to your question is unfortunately "no", you are not able to flash other ROM parts without flashing the bootloader, because all existing NBH files contain a IPL & SPL on them.
Hope it is clear to you
Tnx pof, fast, detailed and bright...now i "just" have to decide what to do..do you have any suggestion?
I think it worths to update all the shipped rom to the newset one...even if it avoids me to upload only the radio rom...what do you think?
Last question:making my tytn a "super cid" one, would make the warranty void?
Tnx in advance,
Jello
Jello79 said:
Tnx pof, fast, detailed and bright...now i "just" have to decide what to do..do you have any suggestion?
I think it worths to update all the shipped rom to the newset one...even if it avoids me to upload only the radio rom...what do you think?
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Sorry I can't answer that... depends on how you want to use the device and what do you expect out of it, and how happy are you to loose time changing roms, applying registry settings, installing cabs, etc... If you're a business user with no time and mod to play with it, I'd keep the shipped rom, otherwise I'd go on with upgrades.
Jello79 said:
Last question:making my tytn a "super cid" one, would make the warranty void?
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I haven't read the warranty,... but I guess yes
I currently have 02.07.10 and am experiencing problems with people calling and going direct to vm when i have 1 bar.
Also when I try to make calls with 1 bar it doesnt tend to connect/terminates the call.
Also can someone please point me in the right direction for the upgrade guide.
Thanks
Rom version 2.21.4.1 WWE
Rom date 3/9/06
Radio version 02.07.10
Protocol version 413.1.03
ExtROM version 2.21.4.101
Is no-one genuinely able to help me or am I asking the wrong questions?
I'm just putting a suggestion out there try searching for *radio rom* in the search this forum tab and browse through the prior posts, I started with 2.25 and have found that the performance of 2.69.11 is preety good, but i have also found others say that 2.19 is the most stable, but you will definately come to find out that radios are more of a trial and error, similar to what OS rom will work best for you, so try a couple and u be the judge performance wise, anyone else?
thanks ezitec, what network are you on out of curiosity?
ps i did searched and not found any specific mention of orange uk thats not to say i didnt miss it though lol
I have no idea about the radio versions. I am using the O2 sim card with my G4 Wizzard (O2 Mini S).
Anyone knows if it is safe to flash either the ExtRom or Radio rom to my CID Locked G4? Thanks
btw, i think my radio works just about fine, neither very good nor very bad.
If there is any issue on flashing the radio to my CID locked G4. Then I will just leave it.
But last time, I did flash the radio rom and Ext rom first before I flash the wm6. I suppose that it is safe to only flash these 2 roms, am I right?
If you are a cingular user
Click Herer
If you are a T-Mobile user
Click Here
there you will find other users opinions on all the radios. Here also you will find links to all the radios, a cab fix that helps with the missed call issue. Everything you need concerning your radio are in those threads.
Thanks but we are neither we are
SPAAARRRRTAAAAAAAAA
(sorry drifted off then)
Orange users.
alecoddlyiv said:
Thanks but we are neither we are
SPAAARRRRTAAAAAAAAA
(sorry drifted off then)
Orange users.
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I am O2 user, not orange
wildcolor said:
I am O2 user, not orange
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OK but this thread is about which rom is best for Orange users. I must say I'm an Orange user using 02.07.10 and WM6 and haven't experienced enough in the way of problems to make me think about upgrading the radio but I tend to be in areas of good signal. I guess maybe it's an issue of which rom will pick up in low signal situations rather than specific networks?
How can I downgrade the newSPL(3.50) to oldSPL(1.20) ?
jacoblu said:
How can I downgrade the newSPL(3.50) to oldSPL(1.20) ?
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i already opened a thread about this and noone seems to be answering the question.. i am afraid my device is ruined already and most likely because of the new spl.. i am so upset.. the whole device is acting wierd, i even went back to ap3 and still having the same problems.. it seems to be the spl coz nothing else changed! i want to flash stock rom. any idea how to go back to normal???
Guess, all bros here prefer we have our device upgraded then otherwise.
I too encountered the bootloader loop after executing the AnthenaUpdater.
Best of all I cannot load AP4 and I cannot goto activesync mode.
Seeing the bootloader screen tell me there is hope, so next.
I flash AP3newspl by cmonex, http://htc-hackers.com/uploads/ap3newspl.zip
Not sure I re-flashed the AP3 rom, sorry, quite excited during the recovery process.
As soon as I get to see AP3, I continue instructions as prompted on screen until I have the
Activesync running. Once the sync is stable and established good connection with pc,
I immediately proceed and re-try flashing AnthenaUpdater.
It finally flashed the AP4 rom. The princess found the frog.
I hope my little experience may of help to you. Cheers.
I;ve also learn to leave the usb cable connected for a little longer to ensure all activities are completed.
hi, me too
I felt ap4.0 maybe is slow so i tried to go back to 7510(or 7501) original rom but stopped at loading..... scene
So i tried tried and flashed ap3.0 rom and t-mobile ...... but everytime rebooting device is starting as hardresetted.
Never come back to original rom never go to ap 4.0
so after rebooting ,as above posting, while activesync is active, I ran apupdater but the bootloader didn't come but hard restting_after scene so ap 3.0 or 7501 rom was starting....
desperatly, as soon as updater was finalized and before bootloader started, I pressed down volume_key+camera key +soft reset hole....
manually loading bootloader...
I succeeded in flashing ap 4.0
And felt good operating.
Everybody can experience this case .
This is from spl ver. I think.
^^
As far as you willingly go back to ap 4.0, your device will remain beatiful athena.
I think some explanations needed......
Is this my own world's case?
.......................................afraid.......
see the wiki
jacoblu said:
How can I downgrade the newSPL(3.50) to oldSPL(1.20) ?
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This and other issues are in the wiki
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Athena_AP4_FAQ
Really everyone should read this and all the info available before you flash!
as you have found out, there is no way to revert to the old SPL yet!
I downgraded to AP3 Old SPL, It runs fine. However, I got the following error with other Roms downgrade:
"FOUND SPL V1.20
DOWNLOAD SPL BEFORE V3.03 IS NOT ALLOWED"
What does it mean?
It means, as has been said MANY times before, if you upgrade to AP4 you CANNOT downgrade to anything except the hacked AP3.
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I downgraded to AP3 Old SPL, It runs fine. However, I got the following error with other Roms downgrade:
"FOUND SPL V1.20
DOWNLOAD SPL BEFORE V3.03 IS NOT ALLOWED"
What does it mean?
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I got the same message.
And first Scene after rebooting is crashed as like a gray darkness mess.
after ap 4.0 reupgrading, all worked fine.
lakeman said:
This and other issues are in the wiki
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Athena_AP4_FAQ
Really everyone should read this and all the info available before you flash!
as you have found out, there is no way to revert to the old SPL yet!
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You mean that it can't revert to old SPL? but after flashing this newSPL(v3.50.OliNex),my original rom can't be flash back! Because I'm a chinese,I need the chinese language rom.
How can I downgrade to chinese WM6 rom?
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It means, as has been said MANY times before, if you upgrade to AP4 you CANNOT downgrade to anything except the hacked AP3.
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Except the hacked AP3(http://htc-hackers.com/uploads/ap3newspl.zip),
have any other chinese wm6 rom for the new SPL?
jacoblu said:
Except the hacked AP3(http://htc-hackers.com/uploads/ap3newspl.zip),
have any other chinese wm6 rom for the new SPL?
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What the heck is that you've linked to?
Why didn't you read before upgrading? It was made quite clear that this was a now ROM that required a new SPL and could not be downgraded. Olinex has since made a version of AP3 that you can downgrade to and in future a full downgrade path will be available. It is not available yet.
jacoblu said:
Except the hacked AP3(http://htc-hackers.com/uploads/ap3newspl.zip),
have any other chinese wm6 rom for the new SPL?
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只能装他的ap3。。这个ap3能运行在new spl下
其实ap4比ap3好，只要把那个划屏的选项关了在横屏下就好使了，也不卡。。不用划屏不就行了。。。
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只能装他的ap3。。这个ap3能运行在new spl下
其实ap4比ap3好，只要把那个划屏的选项关了在横屏下就好使了，也不卡。。不用划屏不就行了。。。
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Many from different country had tried their best to express their thought here in English too. Some may not write good English but they still show respect to members here.
I do not understand why you cannot or do not wish to exercise a little basic courtesy of sharing your thought in simple English.
My first language is not English.
pdajoy said:
Many from different country had tried their best to express their thought here in English too. Some may not write good English but they still show respect to members here.
I do not understand why you cannot or do not wish to exercise a little basic courtesy of sharing your thought in simple English.
My first language is not English.
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install input method ~
Needing Downgrade - Waiting Patiently
First off - the AP4 is an excellent Rom - Great work! Thanks!!!! I was an early adaptor and unfortunately my headphone jack shorted out my internal speakers and now of course trying to reflash to the original HTC wm6 shipped rom so I can submit it to warranty, I found the dreaded spl-v3.50 not acceptable warning. Yes, we were forewarned about this (though I confess I missed it). So I URGE any of you who are still under warranty NOT TO UPGRADE to AP4 until Olipro benovolently provides us a true downgrade path to the factory roms or you are absolutely positive you don't want to make a waranty claim. If you are not under warranty - I highly recommend AP4. If you are under warranty I highly recommend staying with AP3 as you can downgrade AP3 to the original factory roms.
My two cents worth as I wait patiently for Olipros downgrade path to the original roms - and I will be donating handsomely for this...
hello
any progress from the dev team ? it is a great rom but for sale our athena it is best to downgrade and to instal a shipped rom...
Regards
alyn99 said:
unfortunately my headphone jack shorted out my internal speakers
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are yiu sure this isn't just the problem that has affected just about every HTC phone and is easily fixed by poking either the headphone jack in and out a few times or wigling a matchstick/paperclipin the hole?
No need for a waranty claim!
Confucious said:
are yiu sure this isn't just the problem that has affected just about every HTC phone and is easily fixed by poking either the headphone jack in and out a few times or wigling a matchstick/paperclipin the hole?
No need for a waranty claim!
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Not only from HTC, I encountered it with Atom and HP6828 device as well.
Poking to correct the contact may help but do not apply too much force.
The jack cannot be replaced individually, whole main board have to go,
as I learned from the service centre.
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Nice one, Olipro!!!
Is your tool instantly kill CID in T4242?
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Nice one, Olipro!!!
Is your tool instantly kill CID in T4242?
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yep it unlocks everything
if you're thinking of Region ID, that requires a patch to the ROM itself.
Olipro said:
if you're thinking of Region ID, that requires a patch to the ROM itself.
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exactly, and I 'll upload such a patched ROM soon.
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exactly, and I 'll upload such a patched ROM soon.
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Is it based on NBHUtil utility, or there is another ROM tweak?
alvy said:
Is it based on NBHUtil utility, or there is another ROM tweak?
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NBHUtil is just a tool that packs .NB into .NBH or extracts .NB from .NBH
the tweak is 2 patches actually. I got distracted, sorry for the delay regarding the ROM
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the tweak is 2 patches actually.
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all of them in nk.exe?
alvy said:
all of them in nk.exe?
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no, only 1. the other one is rilphone.
heh doesn't look like there's that many iolite's out there.
cmonex: Well, I think that Iolite is just unneeded daughter without any further advertisement. Instead, everyone wants Diamond2 and other clones. Anyway, nobody around has the same device as me .
Hi, Oli & Nex,
First, thanks for your great work to making these HardSPL and unlockers, without them the Windows phone will be much less attractive.
At the time when my Kaiser is broken, my friend send me a Touch Cruise 09 from China. It is a special edition of Iolite custumized for China Unicom,officially called Dopod T4288. From the specs I found its major difference with the HTC T4242 model is that it does not support WiFi. Later on I flashed your hardspl on it and found it works great on flashing ROMs. But I got some trouble on using some ROMs, for example, for the official WWE ROM version 1.11.706.1, the ROM is flashed smoothly and bootup with no problem. But it can not pass by the customization process. It stuck at about 60%of progress bar on the customization screen after after already aligned screen.
My question is: Is this from the hardware variaty or is CID related?
Thanks again for your contributions.
wg5566 said:
Hi, Oli & Nex,
First, thanks for your great work to making these HardSPL and unlockers, without them the Windows phone will be much less attractive.
At the time when my Kaiser is broken, my friend send me a Touch Cruise 09 from China. It is a special edition of Iolite custumized for China Unicom,officially called Dopod T4288. From the specs I found its major difference with the HTC T4242 model is that it does not support WiFi. Later on I flashed your hardspl on it and found it works great on flashing ROMs. But I got some trouble on using some ROMs, for example, for the official WWE ROM version 1.11.706.1, the ROM is flashed smoothly and bootup with no problem. But it can not pass by the customization process. It stuck at about 60%of progress bar on the customization screen after after already aligned screen.
My question is: Is this from the hardware variaty or is CID related?
Thanks again for your contributions.
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wow, very interesting. not sure why that would be... maybe some driver issue. you'll need to cook a rom based on original stock ROM for Dopod T4288. to get stock ROM, see ROM update, if there is none yet, dump one from a stock phone.
did you ever solve that?
Well Cmonex, Sorry for the late reply.
Later on I found that I can use most of the custom ROMs here without sticking on the customization screen. Although the WiFi never works or shows up.But I don't use WiFi so much hence it does not matter.
Up to now I can not convince myself to start cooking a ROM. I know it's not difficult to cook a rom but it's not so easy to cook a perfect ROM. Just I can not sit in front of a computer hours after hours. Now that we have so many chefs here, I'd glad to use and test their ROMs.
I did dumped the ChinaUniCom stock ROM before flashing the first ROM, but it's after already flashed your HardSPL. The link of the dumped ROM is here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5014258&postcount=7
[Etit: Now it's already made into an ruusigned.nbh ROM, from the raw files of China Unicom stock ROM version 1.13.706.2, for the Dopod T4288 variant model of HTC Iolite, simplified Chinese language, the download link is together with the raw files in the above link.]
So if you or any chef here have interest o look into the ROM, please. That ROM is dated end of April, maybe the latest stock ROM up to now and contains some special small apps. Please do tell me if anybody want to translate something from there, since it's CHS ROM.
Tx n bst rgz.
Not security-unlocked
Hey there.
I already had a SIM-unlocked HTC, but I purchased the unlocker so I could have my security unlocked, so I could flash another Radio.
However, that did not happen and I tried over and over again, ending up with the same error messafe: RSA Fail.
Could you please provide a way for me to do this or refund me?
Best regards,
hello everybody
so to unlock my touch cruise 2 sim tmobile hungary , what can i do excatly
please need ur advise
touch cruise sim unlock
please need help how to unlock ittttt
These program can i find it for free?? Thanks!
hello everyone i just bought a HTC HD2 from T-MOBILE i love it! now i want to install a custom rom but my HSPL version is 20.000.0. I heard i need to down grade HSPL? is this true
if its true how do i do so?
thanks alot this is my first post and am here to stay!!!
hemz said:
hello everyone i just bought a HTC HD2 from T-MOBILE i love it! now i want to install a custom rom but my HSPL version is 20.000.0. I heard i need to down grade HSPL? is this true
if its true how do i do so?
thanks alot this is my first post and am here to stay!!!
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i think you made a mistake typing your spl, i suspect its actuially 2.10.0000
use hspl3
if it really 20.000.0, then are you sure its a hd2??? hehe
oh, and be sure and do your rom search in THIS dedicated tmous (tmous = t mobile us, , you did mean from tmo us didnt you? your phone is different from all the other hd2s) section, you are currently in the regular hd2 thread, and not all roms are compatible.
ohh, yes its 2.10.0000 okay i'll download the HSPL 3 and install it and get back to you. thanks so much, yeah i mean't tmo us. oh i see there's regular hd2 and the tmobile hd2.. i see okay sorry am kinda new to all this. thank you so much.
no worries.
one word of caution, read a LOT before you start to flash, most things are recoverable, but the wrong radio will kill your phone, it will NOT be recoverable.
radios have versions of the form x.xx.5x.x
the red bit will always be either 50 or 51. You must NEVER flash a 51 radio.
See posts 1 and 2 HERE (the tmous radio thread) for a list of compatible radios.
(To be honest, you needn't worry about radios for a while yet, there is no need for you to change radios for teh roms you will be flashing, so get used to rom flashing before you start on radios.)
Happy flashing!
wow, this is exactly the type of thread i've been searching for. i, too, have a 1024leo (tmous hd2), with 2.10.0000. so is flashing a bad radio the only way to brick?
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wow, this is exactly the type of thread i've been searching for. i, too, have a 1024leo (tmous hd2), with 2.10.0000. so is flashing a bad radio the only way to brick?
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well wouldn't say the only way there are other such as losing power mid flash, But wrong radio on 1024 leos is a definite brick