ok... the fix isn't currently out yet, but people here who have killed their WLAN can now repair it by flashing a little memory area we've discovered... watch this space.
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ok... the fix isn't currently out yet, but people here who have killed their WLAN can now repair it by flashing a little memory area we've discovered... watch this space.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=299451
Good news Thanks
If you want i can try any patch. My wifi is dead
wow! this forum never cease to amaze me!
OMG... this forum really help me out a lot...
thanks for ur time to discover all these stuff for us...
i appreciate that~!
any word on this fix yet?
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any word on this fix yet?
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there's a checksum on the EEPROM we need to figure out... if you have a friend, or someone willing to dump their EEPROM for you to recover it, then we can do something, but your phone will take on their MAC Address (not that it'll matter unless you two cross paths on the same network)
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there's a checksum on the EEPROM we need to figure out... if you have a friend, or someone willing to dump their EEPROM for you to recover it, then we can do something, but your phone will take on their MAC Address (not that it'll matter unless you two cross paths on the same network)
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Anyone willing to dump their EEPROM and help out a few poor wifi-less souls?
If we don't find how to calculate the checksum in a few days I will provide mine, don't worry.
Pls tell me the procedure..I will try to dump and post..
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Pls tell me the procedure..I will try to dump and post..
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it requires a specially patched SPL... which is why my signature says I'm running 2.30
rest assured... we're working on it.
gr8..Thanks..
oh hell yeah! It's about time someone addressed this issue!
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oh hell yeah! It's about time someone addressed this issue!
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I think a lot of people have, or may have this problem, think this thread should be a sticky?
I posted about this problem when the 1st xda live and vanilla came out! But at the time there were no solution offered. Good to see that this problem is now being addressed! Thanx to all those who's working to solve this issue!
Any progress yet? Im in no rush, I just signed up for an unlimited data plan with Cing... err AT&T so I can wait.
I'm anxiously waiting also....
Is this problem present in all of the WM6 Roms?
no, it has nothing to do with wm6. some people erase the area in nand where the wlan EEPROM is stored, we don't know what causes it, but we have found where it is and we know how to fix it.
We're working on providing an "easy" way to do it, and if possible the ability to choose your own mac address (we still don't know how to calculate the checksum), that's why we haven't published any tool yet... if you have this problem, just be patient
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no, it has nothing to do with wm6. some people erase the area in nand where the wlan EEPROM is stored, we don't know what causes it, but we have found where it is and we know how to fix it.
We're working on providing an "easy" way to do it, and if possible the ability to choose your own mac address (we still don't know how to calculate the checksum), that's why we haven't published any tool yet... if you have this problem, just be patient
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Pof, how about a Backup/Restore app - so those of us who haven't (yet) fubar'ed our wlan can save the relevant info against that day...
Richard
Olipro and Pof,
I've used ur tools and and procedures from the get go. You two never cease to amaze me.
Okay -- any thing you need as far as dumping, let me know. I'm guessing this is a "safe" procedure?
I have two noobs that have these devices (both are 8525, with Custel's 1.3, olipro's hardspl, and 1.40 radio) -- if there's an easy way to get it, I'll have them dump, AND send you mine, which is an unbraded TyTN.
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Do you think we can unlock a t-mobile ameo with this tread? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=240784
If it doesn't work can you explain me why. And do you think we can modified this method to unlock the Ameo? If yes how? Thanks
Well, it looks like nobody has tried it on Ameo yet....
I have TMob anyway, so I certainly will not be the first to test it
Hello, do you think I can brick my Ameo if I try this method? Thanks
I am not aware of Brickage from this, but a few people reported odd radio problems or strange sim problems when it didnt work.
The biggest problem would be locking the phone completely from all sims!
I guess its a gamble somebody will have to take, but I dont expect it to work.
HTC have done some major work since the older handsets this was written for.
So do you think I can try this or not? thanks
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So do you think I can try this or not? thanks
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Are you looking for someone to blame if it breaks your Athena?
If you can afford to buy another unit if you brick yours, then the answer is yes, go ahead and try it.
As Pantaloonie says, Its up to you.
I can say this, I will NOT try it on my Ameo.
Many HTC phones have been bricked during the development of roms and tools on this site, a lot of them have then been recovered by later tools developed to save the early testers from bricked devices while others stayed as hardware donors.
We all owe these pioneers a lot, without people willing to take the jump/plunge/leap whatever we wouldnt have half this stuff.
That doesnt mean you have to be one of them though.
Hi there. I have/had wizard g4, but after upgradin' rom by ruu my phone is bricked. he doesn't even respone to charger.
Now technical details: upgrade was done on i/spl 2.21.001/olip, so after hardspl'ing him. Everythin' went just fine, but in 73% i've realised that i'm uploadin' g3 rom... So i let ruu finish his job and now my pda is completly dead.
I won't be askin' for HELP, i will ask for info. Will anyone can tell me: if i take out 'disk on chip' (cause i think that's the flashrom chip), how i can reflash it? I mean: should i just put nk.nbf from 0x0000 or split rom image onto bootloader, radio and os and put it partially? what are adressess of those thinx and lenght of code? and how can i split nk.nbf?
Congrats !
What your are asking is not easy to do,it requires special flashing tools and connectors,which only the manufacturers and vendors have,It needs new bootloaders,you cannot do it yourself.DOC chip might have to be replaced,it means an almost new phone
Btw,have you tried to force it into bootloaders ? might be lucky,if it gets into bootloaders.well there's no harm in trying,if it does,then you might in luck and safe.
whatdy'a mean sayin' 'force it into bootloader'? if you mean pressing cam button while poweing it on- yes i've tried. i even tried to boot linux on desktop computer, connectin' wizard and typin' 'lsusb' in console, hoping that something like 'xxxx:xxxx unkown vendor' occurs. But, still no luck. even linux thoughts that usb port with connected wiz is free.
I know that only vendors and sevice-guyz know 'tricks' about connecting directly to DOC chip... but i'm still hopeing, cause i've found two unused connector places on mainboard(after disassemblin' of corse)- one in the middle, second next to sim card connector and i'm wondering if there's any chance to ommit BGA-welding(sorry 4 my english).
Have you heard about conspiracy theory ? i begun to belive in it... I think that many people know what 2 do, but noone want to help me from one particular reason: if someone helps me, i wouldn't need to pay in service, so someone will not earn money...
anyway, what do you mean about 'force in2 bl'?
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whatdy'a mean sayin' 'force it into bootloader'? if you mean pressing cam button while poweing it on- yes i've tried. i even tried to boot linux on desktop computer, connectin' wizard and typin' 'lsusb' in console, hoping that something like 'xxxx:xxxx unkown vendor' occurs. But, still no luck. even linux thoughts that usb port with connected wiz is free.
I know that only vendors and sevice-guyz know 'tricks' about connecting directly to DOC chip... but i'm still hopeing, cause i've found two unused connector places on mainboard(after disassemblin' of corse)- one in the middle, second next to sim card connector and i'm wondering if there's any chance to ommit BGA-welding(sorry 4 my english).
Have you heard about conspiracy theory ? i begun to belive in it... I think that many people know what 2 do, but noone want to help me from one particular reason: if someone helps me, i wouldn't need to pay in service, so someone will not earn money...
anyway, what do you mean about 'force in2 bl'?
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First,let me clear you here, There's no such "Conspiracy theory" being practiced here in this Forum.It's a development Forum and not a Technical Advisory Service of some sort,where experts give advise and earn money.Its a free forum to help the newbies about the problem regarding their phones,We here believe in "Help & Support".The guys and gurus are not trained technical experts,its a voluntary website,where guys help and advise what they have learned and gained to the new guys joining and asking for help and they do it with honesty and to the best of their knowledge without any monetary benefits.
Secondly,Yes ! thats exactly what I meant for 'Force into booltloaders',cuz,may be if it does boot in the bootloaders,then it might be recovered,just a haunch,but if it doesn't,then its another dead paper weight on the desk.
Cheers!
I think it's a misunderstood there. I mean that maybe someone know what to do, but if it would leak to internet then services can lost money, cause what to pay 50$ i.e. if you can repair PDA by yourself?. I mean also that i've searched whole wide web... My polish sites of electronics, pda forums, even those forums where volunteers helps guys who crashed their bioses on PC's. And nothin', no one replies to mails, and if i ask someone directly they say thats no hope for me and my PDA.
I just cannot believe it... Even old PC had protection, if you uploaded wrong code into BIOS and PC cannot boot you always could ISA graphic card and boot from floppy.
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I think it's a misunderstood there. I mean that maybe someone know what to do, but if it would leak to internet then services can lost money, cause what to pay 50$ i.e. if you can repair PDA by yourself?. I mean also that i've searched whole wide web... My polish sites of electronics, pda forums, even those forums where volunteers helps guys who crashed their bioses on PC's. And nothin', no one replies to mails, and if i ask someone directly they say thats no hope for me and my PDA.
I just cannot believe it... Even old PC had protection, if you uploaded wrong code into BIOS and PC cannot boot you always could ISA graphic card and boot from floppy.
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focus on the problem:
tell me if u can at least see the bootloader ? If yes then u can have a fair chance of bringing urs back to life
It is because you are not supposed to flash a ROM that is not for your device!
For example, what will happen if you flash a AMIBIOS to a motherboard that uses AWARDBIOS (By your own way for sure)? Flashing G3-only ROMs to G4 device is just like that.
The protection for htc device is not letting you to flash a G3 only RUU in the usual way, you cracked to let it allow any ROM is your own problem, not problem of htc, and htc doesn't have to take care of it.
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focus on the problem:
tell me if u can at least see the bootloader ?
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few posts ago i've wrote, that i cannot even see red led when pluggin' onto charger. BL mode doesn't work either (cam+ sr or cam+pwr).
i've found another way to resurrect my wiza200. JTAG.
But ofcoz noone knows where are testpoints located. But i'll find it. BTW someone can e-mail me fubu of working g4 wizard? lis6502 (at) gmail (dot) com
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For example, what will happen if you flash a AMIBIOS to a motherboard that uses AWARDBIOS (By your own way for sure)? Flashing G3-only ROMs to G4 device is just like that.
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yeah, i know what i did. i understand example of bioses misupload. i've explained in that way to some guys who doesn't understand what i did
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The protection for htc device is not letting you to flash a G3 only RUU in the usual way, you cracked to let it allow any ROM is your own problem, not problem of htc, and htc doesn't have to take care of it.
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Do i cracked it? i just found ONE working ruu which allowed me to upload any rom to my device. i've switched nk.nbf files in folder wich ruu was in.
I know also that HTC wouldn't help mi, i'm not counting on warranty or manufacturer help.
No No...
You installed HardSPL to your device, so your device is already cracked (say patched may be better) by you.
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No No...
You installed HardSPL to your device, so your device is already cracked (say patched may be better) by you.
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uhm, it may be infatile question, but is it illegal? i know thah chaging IMEI is illegal, but is hardspl'ing too?
Cracking SPL is not an offense in law, just violate the warranty terms only.
2 starwonk: man, i'm from poland. i've bought my spv on polish eqiuvalent of e-bay. It's o2 xda mini s, so warranty is only valid in UK. i've told that i'm not counting on warranty. i need and must do it all by myself. and i will do it. Wish me luck
...which rom wasn't supposed to be posted publicly but some moron did so. :sigh:
so post your problems here - or if they are in the more serious category then read below. they'll get fixed sometime.
note that by default we need time for more important things than fixing devices that got screwed up with the prerelease crap.
still you can get help here if we get the time.
anyway, there are two main types of "bricks"
- device with interrupted flashing attempts to AP4, then reflashed AP3, AP4 flashed finally, which has resulted in dead wlan (wifi won't turn on). in this case, if you can, please post your old MAC too (sometimes found on the inside of the battery door), if you can't, then post the MAC of another wlan device nearby, a slightly changed version of that will be flashed back to your athena. because the wlan unbricking file has to be unique for everyone, get on IRC or PM me or Olipro to get it fixed, and hope we have enough time soon - you can negotiate with Olipro to allocate some of his time to you. (though after releasing the *final* AP4 we probably will have more time anyway.)
- interrupted flash, with invalid model ID after trying to flash another rom (AP3 or anything) on it. this is the worst type of brick (wlan is corrupt too, of course). again, get on IRC or PM me or Olipro to get it fixed, and hope we have enough time soon - you can negotiate with Olipro to allocate some of his time to you. (though after releasing the *final* AP4 we probably will have more time anyway.)
- and one last type that isn't really a brick: interrupted flash, device won't boot to OS, but you are able to reflash AP3 (and wifi and all works ok). ---> so, if your device has just got to black screen after unsuccessful flash with prerelease AP4, and you're not sure what to do: flash AP3 back and see if everything is fine. in this case please wait for final AP4 after you got AP3 back on it.
AND ONE REQUEST: if you got such a "brick", let me know if you were using a 32-bit or 64-bit Windows.
Mac 00092DF5F847 - I didn't realise it was on the inside of the battery door! Had to take the kids out yesterday which is why I disappeared from IRC.
Mine is the first type - Got AP4 but no WiFi - I don't want to take you away from the real work so reply when / if it suits you.
Thanks again for all your help.
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Mac 00092DF5F847 - I didn't realise it was on the inside of the battery door! Had to take the kids out yesterday which is why I disappeared from IRC.
Mine is the first type - Got AP4 but no WiFi - I don't want to take you away from the real work so reply when / if it suits you.
Thanks again for all your help.
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ah, good you have it on the door after all. feel free to come on IRC when you can, we'll find a time to fix it.
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All non-authorised testers can pay for repair since you were NOT supposed to download it.
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All non-authorised testers can pay for repair since you were NOT supposed to download it.
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Damn that's harsh, but anyone who downloaded from that link surely saw the next post which said their were STRICT orders not to post the link. Tsk tsk.
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Damn that's harsh,
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Why? I new I was using 'unauthorised' software - why should I expect support? My fault, my problem.
Agreed. Everyone should have known it wasn't an official release...especially if they downloaded and used 3.0. They know how our ROMs are released and to install something that's leaked is done at your own risk and dime.
Now, we're hoping to finalize this stubborn SPL and remove the final bugs shortly. This is a GREAT DAMN ROM!!!!
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Why? I new I was using 'unauthorised' software - why should I expect support? My fault, my problem.
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I agree. Are you now sorted? How big was the donation?
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I agree. Are you now sorted? How big was the donation?
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I'm sure irus will help everyone recover their cost. Remember, he knows best.
ltxda said:
I'm sure irus will help everyone recover their cost. Remember, he knows best.
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Careful remember he's a ranger who wears an Afghan (I think that's right, isn't it) !!!! Sorry, but that really was one of the funniest posts....
Irus sent me the link but it was me that tried it - I have no-one to blame but myself. He didn't force me to go against all the advice I read!
caveat emptor!
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Irus sent me the link but it was me that tried it - I have no-one to blame but myself. He didn't force me to go against all the advice I read!
caveat emptor!
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Haven;t you read the wiki. NO LATIN AFTER 21.30.
Sorry. In a juvenile mood tonight! It's absolutely right tho, they didn't want it released and irus broke the rules. Pretty bloody stupid really.
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Irus sent me the link but it was me that tried it - I have no-one to blame but myself. He didn't force me to go against all the advice I read!
caveat emptor!
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You didn't get it on IRC? I thought I were one of the good people???
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Haven;t you read the wiki. NO LATIN AFTER 21.30.
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It's only 2008 here - so another 122 years to go......
Please start a post titled 'Bull****' or something similar to continue your discussion, this one was started by Cmonex to help those with problems, don't hijack it.
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- and one last type that isn't really a brick: interrupted flash, device won't boot to OS, but you are able to reflash AP3 (and wifi and all works ok). ---> so, if your device has just got to black screen after unsuccessful flash with prerelease AP4, and you're not sure what to do: flash AP3 back and see if everything is fine. in this case please wait for final AP4 after you got AP3 back on it.
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Dear cmonex,
I had this kind of a problem. Maybe nice to know that my phone also went in a boot loop when I went back to AP3.0. That's why I use the second pre released of AP4.0 from IRC.
Regards,
Mabury
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Please start a post titled 'Bull****' or something similar to continue your discussion, this one was started by Cmonex to help those with problems, don't hijack it.
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And like Olipro said - they have now decided we are not worth it - so I have no problem 'hijacking' this thread. They have 'closed' it from there point of view so, unless you were as stupid as me, why are you posting in this thread?
Have you not learnt by now to take Oli's rantings with a pinch of salt?
Cmonex appears to have a heart of gold, and will help those who need it.
And she might even mellow Oli a little.
Yes - and she already has, haven't you noticed?
Oli has a problem with anyone who isn't as intelligent as him (which is most people) but cmonex is - and she's nice as well. That seems to have confused the F*ck out of him. Together they make a great team - but they owe me slightly less than nothing!
Hi anyone
I hear very good things about Diamond_Radio_1.00.25.05.zip concerning reception so I'd like to try it on my Raphael.
Now, I hardspled my Raphael, flashing modded roms works and with Custom RUU I have been able to flash the .31 radio rom onto my .19 radio rom device.
When I however try to flash the .05 radio rom, which is a Diamond rom, flashing fails. I assume the radio HW is exactly the same as in the Raphael so what's wrong? Is there a type-code in the rom that prevents a successful flash? How do I get this working?
Patrick
i would like to know how to do it aswell
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Hi anyone
I hear very good things about Diamond_Radio_1.00.25.05.zip concerning reception so I'd like to try it on my Raphael.
Now, I hardspled my Raphael, flashing modded roms works and with Custom RUU I have been able to flash the .31 radio rom onto my .19 radio rom device.
When I however try to flash the .05 radio rom, which is a Diamond rom, flashing fails. I assume the radio HW is exactly the same as in the Raphael so what's wrong? Is there a type-code in the rom that prevents a successful flash? How do I get this working?
Patrick
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This has already been discussed. Flashing Diamond radios on the Raphael does not work. See this thread:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=410620
Well, obviously it hasn't been discussed adequately yet.
I've been watching that thread and it doesn't really contain an answer as to why it doesn't work and whether there is a possibility to get it working.
That thread also doesn't give a definite answer to the question whether or not the Diamond and Touch Pro use the exact same radio hardware so I think the validity of my questions is fine.
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This has already been discussed. Flashing Diamond radios on the Raphael does not work. See this thread:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=410620
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What about (from the other thread you were asked to read):
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OK I know now why.
raphael radio won't flash on diamond and diamond radio won't flash on raphael. even if their contents are the same - I have such radios here (this proves they are compatible). there is a reason for this (yes, HTC, again artificial limitation!!!)
there is one way around this - if you are security unlocked in radio it will flash no problem.
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heh, has no one read my #28 post?
again, diamond radio will not flash but not due to incompatibility. it is artificial limitation which can be removed with security unlocker
however there will be some people here who'll say yes the radio flashed - that is because they ran the diamond sec unlocker.
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cmonex and OliPro (OliNex) are still working on a Raph Security Unlocker. Saying their work in inadequate is bordering on offensive, given how much they provided this comunity with.
Just wait like everyone else.
Dave
My my, so stating that something has not been discussed enough means that someone’s effort is inadequate? I think your somewhat hostile reaction to my post is out of line. I didn't say anyone’s work is inadequate! Read again!
As you can read, cmonex states he knows they are compatible, he doesn't say whether or not they are the same! There is a difference you know?
And as to what the incompatibility is, there is no answer for that yet. At least, not in that thread so I posted my message with the combination of questions I have to find out if anyone else knows more.
I don’t find your reaction bordering on offensive, I find it offensive. You seem to think you can dictate what I'm allowed to ask and what opinion I'm allowed to have.
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What about (from the other thread you were asked to read):
cmonex and OliPro (OliNex) are still working on a Raph Security Unlocker. Saying their work in inadequate is bordering on offensive, given how much they provided this comunity with.
Just wait like everyone else.
Dave
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My my, so stating that something has not been discussed enough means that someone’s effort is inadequate? I think your somewhat hostile reaction to my post is out of line. I didn't say anyone’s work is inadequate! Read again!
As you can read, cmonex states he knows they are compatible, he doesn't say whether or not they are the same! There is a difference you know?
And as to what the incompatibility is, there is no answer for that yet. At least, not in that thread so I posted my message with the combination of questions I have to find out if anyone else knows more.
I don’t find your reaction bordering on offensive, I find it offensive. You seem to think you can dictate what I'm allowed to ask and what opinion I'm allowed to have.
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I'm not dictating anything.
The discussion was complete, a security unlocker is required to get a Diamond ROM to work on a Raph. cmonex and OliPro (as well as Jockyw2001) have provided these in the past and more than likley will again.
Dave
You weren't? It seems that's a matter of opinion. Even now, you are telling me that I should consider the discussion completed whilst I obviously disagree and am still seeking more answers.
Anyway, I don't see how your rude rant helps finding more answers so are we done?
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I'm not dictating anything.
The discussion was complete, a security unlocker is required to get a Diamond ROM to work on a Raph. cmonex and OliPro (as well as Jockyw2001) have provided these in the past and more than likley will again.
Dave
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... cmonex states he knows they are compatible, he
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I think you'll find that cmonex is a she rather than a he ;-)
Oops, now that IS something to be sorry about I admit to being a male chauvinistic pig sometimes This shows that assumption is the mother of all f&*k ups.
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I think you'll find that cmonex is a she rather than a he ;-)
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You weren't? It seems that's a matter of opinion. Even now, you are telling me that I should consider the discussion completed whilst I obviously disagree and am still seeking more answers.
Anyway, I don't see how your rude rant helps finding more answers so are we done?
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I never intended to be rude, for that I am sorry. I just type and asume the same tone in my head goes down on paper, which is this case it didn't.
To discuss this further, cmonex has identified that the two radios are compatable, but a security unlocker is required for the raph in order for to allow a radio from a diamond to be flashed on to it. This is what you raph users will be patiently waiting for.
Hopefully this clarifies things.
Thanks
Dave
It's all right dude, I can certainly understand your passion
I'm with you so far and I was hoping there are more people seeking answers out there. Hence the question. Anyway, we'd better use our efforts to get more out of our Raphaels then bug each into blind rages
Anyway, I appreciate your apologies and they're not necessary as I myself tend to like it a bit too much to play someone when someone gets passionate like you did. Sorry for that
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I never intended to be rude, for that I am sorry. I just type and asume the same tone in my head goes down on paper, which is this case it didn't.
To discuss this further, cmonex has identified that the two radios are compatable, but a security unlocker is required for the raph in order for to allow a radio from a diamond to be flashed on to it. This is what you raph users will be patiently waiting for.
Hopefully this clarifies things.
Thanks
Dave
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Seriously, this was all concluded in the other thread.
cmonex very clearly stated in that thread that the reason Diamond radios don't work at the moment is because of an extra limitation that HTC has added to the Raphael - That will be a non-issue once the security unlocker is released.
Which other answers are you still seeking, bozotheclown - as far as I can see the only question you asked has very clearly been shown to you by apd and DaveShaw?
My questions are serious and I'm looking for what ther exacte compatibility issue is so I can try to help out.
And if that's what you see you missed it.
BTW. I don't see what questioning ones questions does for finding answers.
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Seriously, this was all concluded in the other thread.
cmonex very clearly stated in that thread that the reason Diamond radios don't work at the moment is because of an extra limitation that HTC has added to the Raphael - That will be a non-issue once the security unlocker is released.
Which other answers are you still seeking, bozotheclown - as far as I can see the only question you asked has very clearly been shown to you by apd and DaveShaw?
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My questions are serious and I'm looking for what ther exacte compatibility issue is so I can try to help out.
And if that's what you see you missed it.
BTW. I don't see what questioning ones questions does for finding answers.
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Glad its all sorted and no hard feelings. I get stressed when "I think" I'm been bated, there's a little cocky kid on a wiki I'm gonna get one day... Im just biding my time.
There are Security unlock apps out there, Jockyw2001 wrote the one for the kaiser, that sets a flag in the low level storage area of the phone (the nand i think) that allows you greater access to the deice that normal.
i.e. You can format the SPL when sec unlocked. (Though I wouldn't advise it)
Anyway...
If you want to help out, and have some knowledge of assembly language pm olinex and ask if you can help out.
Dave
Heheh What do you do for stress relief? Whatch Bottom?
I'll pm Olinex
DaveShaw said:
Glad its all sorted and no hard feelings. I get stressed when "I think" I'm been bated, there's a little cocky kid on a wiki I'm gonna get one day... Im just biding my time.
There are Security unlock apps out there, Jockyw2001 wrote the one for the kaiser, that sets a flag in the low level storage area of the phone (the nand i think) that allows you greater access to the deice that normal.
i.e. You can format the SPL when sec unlocked. (Though I wouldn't advise it)
Anyway...
If you want to help out, and have some knowledge of assembly language pm olinex and ask if you can help out.
Dave
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bozotheclown said:
Hi anyone
When I however try to flash the .05 radio rom, which is a Diamond rom, flashing fails. I assume the radio HW is exactly the same as in the Raphael so what's wrong? Is there a type-code in the rom that prevents a successful flash?
Patrick
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yes. different RSA key is used to sign the radio.NB for raphael. the radio bootloader is the same for both, so it must dynamically select the correct public key for the device it is running on - which is possible by querying the PID (sort of a device model id), stored in regioninfo in nand.
security unlock gets around this by not checking the RSA at all when flashing.
hopefully that is detailed enough
bozotheclown said:
Heheh What do you do for stress relief? Whatch Bottom?
I'll pm Olinex
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better PM cmonex or Olipro, OliNex is just for posting stuff we make together. =)
DaveShaw said:
There are Security unlock apps out there, Jockyw2001 wrote the one for the kaiser, that sets a flag in the low level storage area of the phone (the nand i think) that allows you greater access to the deice that normal.
i.e. You can format the SPL when sec unlocked. (Though I wouldn't advise it)
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just some comments
1. yea, both jocky and olinex implemented a method, they use different ways to get the same result.
the flag is in memory, then written back to nand in jocky's solution. olinex solution uses the AMSS to set it in the more "official" way.
2. you can but on diamond or raphael you will not currently have a way to get out of that. for some reason, you cannot see the USB when in dload or oemsbl command line. (note, even without being unlocked, you could do the SPL erase and restore just fine using frankenkaiser on the kaiser generation, kaiser, polaris, niki, sedna etc...)
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just some comments
1. yea, both jocky and olinex implemented a method, they use different ways to get the same result.
the flag is in memory, then written back to nand in jocky's solution. olinex solution uses the AMSS to set it in the more "official" way.
2. you can but on diamond or raphael you will not currently have a way to get out of that. for some reason, you cannot see the USB when in dload or oemsbl command line. (note, even without being unlocked, you could do the SPL erase and restore just fine using frankenkaiser on the kaiser generation, kaiser, polaris, niki, sedna etc...)
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I see I still have a long way to go, and most of my work is best guess from what I've read in places joined together.
Thanks for the corrections, I learn a little each day.
Dave
i was experimenting on my htc touch pro and I flashed a program called diamond unlocker. I think it might be another name for athena unlocker. Now phone wouldn't even power up. freaking out big time. please help!!
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i was experimenting on my htc touch pro and I flashed a program called diamond unlocker. I think it might be another name for athena unlocker. Now phone wouldn't even power up. freaking out big time. please help!!
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Sounds like you have bricked your phone big time.
Where on your Raphael does it say Diamond or Athena, all unlockers are device specific.
Can you enter the bootloader at all?
Ta
Dave
NO i can't enter bootloader. I can't even power up. I was testing unlocker programs and I found a program called "diamond unlocker". I thought I give it a shot and next thing you know the phone blanks out. Hard-reset doesn't work because I can't even power up.
I knew this thing cooking thing was playing with fire. What should I do now?? Stressing out big time.
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NO i can't enter bootloader. I can't even power up. I was testing unlocker programs and I found a program called "diamond unlocker". I thought I give it a shot and next thing you know the phone blanks out. Hard-reset doesn't work because I can't even power up.
I knew this thing cooking thing was playing with fire. What should I do now?? Stressing out big time.
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Hmm ok i will sidestep the "what were you thinking flashing a diamond unlocker to your raphael when your device is NOT a diamond" lecture and simply state that you have most likely messed up your device totally...unless there is something olipro/cmonex can do to help you you have a paperweight.
Sorry sir.
Would the phone be covered by warranty? I can't power it up, so i assume the techies would just replace the whole phone. Has anyone return a brick phone to technicans and what was the outcome?
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Hmm ok i will sidestep the "what were you thinking flashing a diamond unlocker to your raphael when your device is NOT a diamond" lecture and simply state that you have most likely messed up your device totally...unless there is something olipro/cmonex can do to help you you have a paperweight.
Sorry sir.
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Maybe, ViperBJK might also be able to help.
You could try PM'ing one of those three, if they can't fix it then your pretty much done for.
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Dave
jimmymob said:
i was experimenting on my htc touch pro and I flashed a program called diamond unlocker. I think it might be another name for athena unlocker. Now phone wouldn't even power up. freaking out big time. please help!!
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Let met guess,you downloaded that on a torrent site,if you donated 15 euro to olipro you did not have this problem you have now.
tinuz97 said:
Let met guess,you downloaded that on a torrent site,if you donated 15 euro to olipro you did not have this problem you have now.
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If that is the case I wouldn't hold out for help from Olipro or cmonex.
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Dave
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Would the phone be covered by warranty? I can't power it up, so i assume the techies would just replace the whole phone. Has anyone return a brick phone to technicans and what was the outcome?
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Its been stated here so many times, read the instructions before you flash/do anything...
Warranty the device, maybe they dont realize what you did...
You can also admit that you didnt donate for the unlocker...
My phone was already unlocked before I install the offending program. And No I didn't download it from a torrent site or illegal warez site.
How did you get it then?
hmmmm . . . Did you try the most stupid and simple stuff, like taking the battery out for a couple of hours, taking the sim and SD card if any, etc...
I will be joining Fuze group today...
Maybe I can offer a little help, I don't know the Fuze yet, won't have one for a few hours, but I had some great success unbricking hundreds of Tilts & this led to a cooperative project ending with Jocky putting everything learned into FrankenKaiser.
I will take a look at the firmware when I get my device, after much research of course, & let you know what I think. It may be a tedious project though as it might require a redio hack to allow DL mode to be entered from OEMSBL.
Oli, Viper & Jockey are all great resources, but they get a lot of PM's so it may take some time. Once I get a feeling for it & you answer a few questions for me, I can then go to them with more than just symptoms.
Be patient & we'll get it working as we've done for hundreds of Kaiser owners.
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I will be joining the Fuze group today.
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Well that's just great. There goes the neigborhood.
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Maybe I can offer a little help, I don't know the Fuze yet, won't have one for a few hours, but I had some great success unbricking hundreds of Tilts & this led to a cooperative project ending with Jocky putting everything learned into FrankenKaiser.
I will take a look at the firmware when I get my device, after much research of course, & let you know what I think. It may be a tedious project though as it might require a redio hack to allow DL mode to be entered from OEMSBL.
Oli, Viper & Jockey are all great resources, but they get a lot of PM's so it may take some time. Once I get a feeling for it & you answer a few questions for me, I can then go to them with more than just symptoms.
Be patient & we'll get it working as we've done for hundreds of Kaiser owners.
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unfortunately there is no access to download mode on diamond and raphael and any newer devices.
the USB interface is simply disabled, we don't know how to get around that - yet.
the other thing is, on new radios (HD, xperia, G1, etc...), the radio is locked for flashing. kaiser radio wasn't supposed to allow flashing unsigned code either, just HTC left a nice bug in the rsa check.
trust me the kaiser was heaven compared to the days now... but we like challenge don't we
so this device is a brick - he can RMA it or jtag it.
Wow, I am shocked. I've never heard a response quite like that from the esteemed cmonex That means if it is even possible, then it's burried & will take some time to finess out.
I'll tell you one thing though buddy, if its under the mfg warrentee then that's gonna be your fastest way. I know that Cmonex & Oli have spent some time poking around this area for sure, so if she says there's no way & says to RMA it, well that means we're still a good way off from finding the doorway into dload mode.
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My phone was already unlocked before I install the offending program. And No I didn't download it from a torrent site or illegal warez site.
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probably you got it from ppcgeeks site eh? the instructions says it's only for cdma :/
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Wow, I am shocked. I've never heard a response quite like that from the esteemed cmonex That means if it is even possible, then it's burried & will take some time to finess out.
I'll tell you one thing though buddy, if its under the mfg warrentee then that's gonna be your fastest way. I know that Cmonex & Oli have spent some time poking around this area for sure, so if she says there's no way & says to RMA it, well that means we're still a good way off from finding the doorway into dload mode.
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yes this will be a big challenge is what i meant above BTW it would be cool to work together =) have you got your Fuze yet?
Jup, this is also my answer :
RMA or Jtag. No other way.
Cya,
Viper BJK
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Jup, this is also my answer :
RMA or Jtag. No other way.
Cya,
Viper BJK
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No you forgot 1,still the option of trashcan