...which rom wasn't supposed to be posted publicly but some moron did so. :sigh:
so post your problems here - or if they are in the more serious category then read below. they'll get fixed sometime.
note that by default we need time for more important things than fixing devices that got screwed up with the prerelease crap.
still you can get help here if we get the time.
anyway, there are two main types of "bricks"
- device with interrupted flashing attempts to AP4, then reflashed AP3, AP4 flashed finally, which has resulted in dead wlan (wifi won't turn on). in this case, if you can, please post your old MAC too (sometimes found on the inside of the battery door), if you can't, then post the MAC of another wlan device nearby, a slightly changed version of that will be flashed back to your athena. because the wlan unbricking file has to be unique for everyone, get on IRC or PM me or Olipro to get it fixed, and hope we have enough time soon - you can negotiate with Olipro to allocate some of his time to you. (though after releasing the *final* AP4 we probably will have more time anyway.)
- interrupted flash, with invalid model ID after trying to flash another rom (AP3 or anything) on it. this is the worst type of brick (wlan is corrupt too, of course). again, get on IRC or PM me or Olipro to get it fixed, and hope we have enough time soon - you can negotiate with Olipro to allocate some of his time to you. (though after releasing the *final* AP4 we probably will have more time anyway.)
- and one last type that isn't really a brick: interrupted flash, device won't boot to OS, but you are able to reflash AP3 (and wifi and all works ok). ---> so, if your device has just got to black screen after unsuccessful flash with prerelease AP4, and you're not sure what to do: flash AP3 back and see if everything is fine. in this case please wait for final AP4 after you got AP3 back on it.
AND ONE REQUEST: if you got such a "brick", let me know if you were using a 32-bit or 64-bit Windows.
Mac 00092DF5F847 - I didn't realise it was on the inside of the battery door! Had to take the kids out yesterday which is why I disappeared from IRC.
Mine is the first type - Got AP4 but no WiFi - I don't want to take you away from the real work so reply when / if it suits you.
Thanks again for all your help.
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Mac 00092DF5F847 - I didn't realise it was on the inside of the battery door! Had to take the kids out yesterday which is why I disappeared from IRC.
Mine is the first type - Got AP4 but no WiFi - I don't want to take you away from the real work so reply when / if it suits you.
Thanks again for all your help.
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ah, good you have it on the door after all. feel free to come on IRC when you can, we'll find a time to fix it.
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All non-authorised testers can pay for repair since you were NOT supposed to download it.
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All non-authorised testers can pay for repair since you were NOT supposed to download it.
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Damn that's harsh, but anyone who downloaded from that link surely saw the next post which said their were STRICT orders not to post the link. Tsk tsk.
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Damn that's harsh,
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Why? I new I was using 'unauthorised' software - why should I expect support? My fault, my problem.
Agreed. Everyone should have known it wasn't an official release...especially if they downloaded and used 3.0. They know how our ROMs are released and to install something that's leaked is done at your own risk and dime.
Now, we're hoping to finalize this stubborn SPL and remove the final bugs shortly. This is a GREAT DAMN ROM!!!!
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Why? I new I was using 'unauthorised' software - why should I expect support? My fault, my problem.
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I agree. Are you now sorted? How big was the donation?
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I agree. Are you now sorted? How big was the donation?
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I'm sure irus will help everyone recover their cost. Remember, he knows best.
ltxda said:
I'm sure irus will help everyone recover their cost. Remember, he knows best.
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Careful remember he's a ranger who wears an Afghan (I think that's right, isn't it) !!!! Sorry, but that really was one of the funniest posts....
Irus sent me the link but it was me that tried it - I have no-one to blame but myself. He didn't force me to go against all the advice I read!
caveat emptor!
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Irus sent me the link but it was me that tried it - I have no-one to blame but myself. He didn't force me to go against all the advice I read!
caveat emptor!
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Haven;t you read the wiki. NO LATIN AFTER 21.30.
Sorry. In a juvenile mood tonight! It's absolutely right tho, they didn't want it released and irus broke the rules. Pretty bloody stupid really.
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Irus sent me the link but it was me that tried it - I have no-one to blame but myself. He didn't force me to go against all the advice I read!
caveat emptor!
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You didn't get it on IRC? I thought I were one of the good people???
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Haven;t you read the wiki. NO LATIN AFTER 21.30.
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It's only 2008 here - so another 122 years to go......
Please start a post titled 'Bull****' or something similar to continue your discussion, this one was started by Cmonex to help those with problems, don't hijack it.
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- and one last type that isn't really a brick: interrupted flash, device won't boot to OS, but you are able to reflash AP3 (and wifi and all works ok). ---> so, if your device has just got to black screen after unsuccessful flash with prerelease AP4, and you're not sure what to do: flash AP3 back and see if everything is fine. in this case please wait for final AP4 after you got AP3 back on it.
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Dear cmonex,
I had this kind of a problem. Maybe nice to know that my phone also went in a boot loop when I went back to AP3.0. That's why I use the second pre released of AP4.0 from IRC.
Regards,
Mabury
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Please start a post titled 'Bull****' or something similar to continue your discussion, this one was started by Cmonex to help those with problems, don't hijack it.
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And like Olipro said - they have now decided we are not worth it - so I have no problem 'hijacking' this thread. They have 'closed' it from there point of view so, unless you were as stupid as me, why are you posting in this thread?
Have you not learnt by now to take Oli's rantings with a pinch of salt?
Cmonex appears to have a heart of gold, and will help those who need it.
And she might even mellow Oli a little.
Yes - and she already has, haven't you noticed?
Oli has a problem with anyone who isn't as intelligent as him (which is most people) but cmonex is - and she's nice as well. That seems to have confused the F*ck out of him. Together they make a great team - but they owe me slightly less than nothing!
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ok... the fix isn't currently out yet, but people here who have killed their WLAN can now repair it by flashing a little memory area we've discovered... watch this space.
Olipro said:
ok... the fix isn't currently out yet, but people here who have killed their WLAN can now repair it by flashing a little memory area we've discovered... watch this space.
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For more "technical" information, see this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=299451
Good news Thanks
If you want i can try any patch. My wifi is dead
wow! this forum never cease to amaze me!
OMG... this forum really help me out a lot...
thanks for ur time to discover all these stuff for us...
i appreciate that~!
any word on this fix yet?
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any word on this fix yet?
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there's a checksum on the EEPROM we need to figure out... if you have a friend, or someone willing to dump their EEPROM for you to recover it, then we can do something, but your phone will take on their MAC Address (not that it'll matter unless you two cross paths on the same network)
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there's a checksum on the EEPROM we need to figure out... if you have a friend, or someone willing to dump their EEPROM for you to recover it, then we can do something, but your phone will take on their MAC Address (not that it'll matter unless you two cross paths on the same network)
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Anyone willing to dump their EEPROM and help out a few poor wifi-less souls?
If we don't find how to calculate the checksum in a few days I will provide mine, don't worry.
Pls tell me the procedure..I will try to dump and post..
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Pls tell me the procedure..I will try to dump and post..
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it requires a specially patched SPL... which is why my signature says I'm running 2.30
rest assured... we're working on it.
gr8..Thanks..
oh hell yeah! It's about time someone addressed this issue!
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oh hell yeah! It's about time someone addressed this issue!
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I think a lot of people have, or may have this problem, think this thread should be a sticky?
I posted about this problem when the 1st xda live and vanilla came out! But at the time there were no solution offered. Good to see that this problem is now being addressed! Thanx to all those who's working to solve this issue!
Any progress yet? Im in no rush, I just signed up for an unlimited data plan with Cing... err AT&T so I can wait.
I'm anxiously waiting also....
Is this problem present in all of the WM6 Roms?
no, it has nothing to do with wm6. some people erase the area in nand where the wlan EEPROM is stored, we don't know what causes it, but we have found where it is and we know how to fix it.
We're working on providing an "easy" way to do it, and if possible the ability to choose your own mac address (we still don't know how to calculate the checksum), that's why we haven't published any tool yet... if you have this problem, just be patient
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no, it has nothing to do with wm6. some people erase the area in nand where the wlan EEPROM is stored, we don't know what causes it, but we have found where it is and we know how to fix it.
We're working on providing an "easy" way to do it, and if possible the ability to choose your own mac address (we still don't know how to calculate the checksum), that's why we haven't published any tool yet... if you have this problem, just be patient
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Pof, how about a Backup/Restore app - so those of us who haven't (yet) fubar'ed our wlan can save the relevant info against that day...
Richard
Olipro and Pof,
I've used ur tools and and procedures from the get go. You two never cease to amaze me.
Okay -- any thing you need as far as dumping, let me know. I'm guessing this is a "safe" procedure?
I have two noobs that have these devices (both are 8525, with Custel's 1.3, olipro's hardspl, and 1.40 radio) -- if there's an easy way to get it, I'll have them dump, AND send you mine, which is an unbraded TyTN.
I have an AT&T 8525 arriving tomorrow and I'm so excited by the possibilities... but at the same time I'm just by all the different jargon and things that everyone seems to know about. I'm coming from a Blackjack which I've hacked the crap out of but this just seems so much more complicated. Anyway, hello, if you have any suggestions for someone who has never had an HTC before, please post them up for me, because I really just don't know where to start.
Thanks!
Start here, read and learn
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Hermes
welcome to the club, please read all the Sticky topics on the main page of HERMES Upgrading ect...
if you still have any questions or concerns then post your next question...
happy reading
Oh god... come in sucker.
First of all, before you even start using your phone, SIM unlock it, super CID it, install Bootloader 1.11 but not 1.04 unless you have Olipro 1.02b or you have acces to KITL, then flash every ROM you can find until sleep deprivation affects your marriage your job and you forget the name of your eldest child.
Then after two months of owning a phone that almost never is in a working state, you'll get it stuck in bootloader mode just after you suffered your first white screen of death, and in desperation you will call your carrier with a string of lies and send it back for a replacement.
Then you start the whole process again...
Have fun... not.
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Oh god... come in sucker.
First of all, before you even start using your phone, SIM unlock it, super CID it, install Bootloader 1.11 but not 1.04 unless you have Olipro 1.02b or you have acces to KITL, then flash every ROM you can find until sleep deprivation affects your marriage your job and you forget the name of your eldest child.
Then after two months of owning a phone that almost never is in a working state, you'll get it stuck in bootloader mode just after you suffered your first white screen of death, and in desperation you will call your carrier with a string of lies and send it back for a replacement.
Then you start the whole process again...
Have fun... not.
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LOL - that is funny, but a little pessimistic.
If you have hacked your Blackjack to shreads, you will have no problem.
Start with MrVanx Upgrade Guides to see the process.
Then, once you have a feel for the bits and pieces of the process, read through the wiki and forums and you will be able to sort through the threds of relavence. It is really not THAT hard once you have done a little homework.
Most important thing - the first thing you should do is upgrade the SPL to Olipro's HardSPLv7 - do that first - that way you can recover from just about anything.
Rest assured, if you have a little experience, educate yourself and follow the guides to get started, your device will work 99% of the time. Don't fret.
I am also one of those new users and my 8525 is coming in a few days but i'm a bit technical about computers so i tend to grab it quickly, i DON'T want to play around with my mobile, i just want to unlock it, then put it to some good windows mobile 6, and then forget about it till windows mobile 7 comes, does that mean i use pof's sim unlocker v3a to unlock my phone...
alternative is Hard-SPL, if thati have seen that making your phone supercid seems dangerous and the safer s true i simply apply hard-spl on my phone? (though i don't even know what it does if its a utility or a piece of code integrated into your phone or a custom bootloader ), after applying hardspl, i simply follow the legitimate official instructions to install TyTN Mobile 6 official rom as if my 8525 was a HTC TyTN?
I just want my final goal to be Mobile 6.0 Unlocked in the safest go...
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I am also one of those new users and my 8525 is coming in a few days but i'm a bit technical about computers so i tend to grab it quickly, i DON'T want to play around with my mobile, i just want to unlock it, then put it to some good windows mobile 6, and then forget about it till windows mobile 7 comes, does that mean i use pof's sim unlocker v3a to unlock my phone...
alternative is Hard-SPL, if thati have seen that making your phone supercid seems dangerous and the safer s true i simply apply hard-spl on my phone? (though i don't even know what it does if its a utility or a piece of code integrated into your phone or a custom bootloader ), after applying hardspl, i simply follow the legitimate official instructions to install TyTN Mobile 6 official rom as if my 8525 was a HTC TyTN?
I just want my final goal to be Mobile 6.0 Unlocked in the safest go...
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How do you know that WM5 isn't good enough for you? If the only thing you want on your phone is WM6, why didn't you buy one with this pre-installed? Maybe you should spend some more time reading before you get, and break your new toy - all the best links are already posted above and if you'd read them you wouldn't be posting these questions.
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LOL - that is funny, but a little pessimistic.
If you have hacked your Blackjack to shreads, you will have no problem.
Start with MrVanx Upgrade Guides to see the process.
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Pessimistic?
That link lists no fewer than five operating systems, for one device, all WM6!!!
Which one works??? This is ridiculous!
This is worse than linux!
...head...spinning...
Thanks for the advice to everyone who gave it... I got my Hermes at 1 this afternoon and it's been sitting on my desk, charging and keeping me from really getting any work done all afternoon. I'm going to assume that all the acronyms y'all are throwing at me will be explained in the wikis...
Don't freak them out guys , get it unlock it install official go to bed happy, if you want to go crazy over installing different versions of roms all the time do so but check the safety steps first (many guides here, Mr. Vanx's is a great place to start) mind you there is no 100% safe option and most of the roms are more or less the same, you can always add cab files of things you want, it's better to stick to a clean rom. If you play with it there might be a chance you screw it... badly (even if you know what you're doing)
Me I just updated the official WM6 (which was released sooooo long later) thankfully in your case you don't have to wait.
Either way congrads on the phone and enjoy it, some small issues aside you have a great piece of hardware there.
CSMR said:
Pessimistic?
That link lists no fewer than five operating systems, for one device, all WM6!!!
Which one works??? This is ridiculous!
This is worse than linux!
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Nothing is worse than Linux!!!!!
d.butters said:
I have an AT&T 8525 arriving tomorrow and I'm so excited by the possibilities... but at the same time I'm just by all the different jargon and things that everyone seems to know about. I'm coming from a Blackjack which I've hacked the crap out of but this just seems so much more complicated. Anyway, hello, if you have any suggestions for someone who has never had an HTC before, please post them up for me, because I really just don't know where to start.
Thanks!
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welcome... i was like you for a while... i'm a new hermes 8525 owner too... read and learn before you really dive in... understand the terminology and jargon for a while... get used to using your phone in stock mode for a while before moving forward... being familiar with it is important... then the first thing you should install when you decide to is hardspl... good luck...
thanks again to everyone! I have to say that the MrVanx Upgrade Guides link was the best, most helpful thing anyone could have pointed me at - step-by-step instructions to flash my hermes with a new ROM. It was great. The forums also yielded CABs and all sorts of other helpful links that have set me up with a near - perfect phone.
Of course, now I'm bored. what's the next step? 'cooking' my own ROMs? where do I start with that? what are 'kitchens'? I know there's lots out there. thanks again for the help y'all have given!!!
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Nothing is worse than Linux!!!!!
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hey now hey now, that's a bit mean. Linux does after all give you the whole house, while Microsoft only gives you the Windows
ok, maybe i'm just causing a bit of trouble hehe... just ignore me hehehe
d.butters said:
thanks again to everyone! I have to say that the MrVanx Upgrade Guides link was the best, most helpful thing anyone could have pointed me at - step-by-step instructions to flash my hermes with a new ROM. It was great. The forums also yielded CABs and all sorts of other helpful links that have set me up with a near - perfect phone.
Of course, now I'm bored. what's the next step? 'cooking' my own ROMs? where do I start with that? what are 'kitchens'? I know there's lots out there. thanks again for the help y'all have given!!!
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So, I can't read your nick without thinking of the Lethal Weapon movie with Chris Rock. He was detective Butters or something. Anywa, I digress...
I think your next logical step is one of two paths:
1. Cooking and coding - either for yourself or for a new release, if you come up with something you think is different or cool for the community - home cooked customization apps are quite popular - settings backup/recover solutions too - fewer options out there for that right now
or
2. Documenting - maybe something you could work with MrVanx on if you want to pick up an area that is not well documented adn try to document it for folks
For cooking, start HERE IN THE WIKI and see what you can figure out. I am not sure if all the latest kitchen releases are in here, but it is a good start. Follow the links then do some additional searches - lot's of cool stuff... enjoy...
edit.... maybe i should try stuff before i post. i dont need to get band.
sorry
I'm running 1.7.0 so let me re-flash. I just downloaded it and am willing to try. let you know tonight!
The older version did not work at all because the mogul lacks a working direct3d driver, and that seems to be what this program uses to render the maps. Considering this problem affected a large number of HTC devices, hopefully the fixed the problem by using another display method.. Will try...
*edit*
Yes! From the author's website:
-Add Qualcomm CPU device support
-More stable by using new 3D engin which do not need Microsoft direct3d mobile support
-Fix the start GPS bug in some device
Have not tried yet but it looks like it will work.
I keep getting a critical error while trying to start the GPS... wants me to install a .net 3 cab to get the message...
Well the software does work on the mogul now...
Lets take this and throw it into the box with opera 9.405. We will label this box "SOFTWARE MOGUL USERS CANNOT ENJOY BECAUSE WE DO NOT HAVE ENOUGH RAM".
This program will gradually suck every drop of RAM then crash within two to three minutes of just browsing the map.
Working fine for me. Using the new stock rom. Very fast.
Thanks
It did load pretty fast with the new offical Sprint Rom for me.
Hmmm... Whats with the crack. This looks like warez....
Well...with 3.27 radio and 6.1 wm the program runs...locks onto GPS and crashes the program after a couple of zooms with OutOfMemoryException for me.
This looks like a cracked version of a comercial application located here: Google Navigator I don't think it is alowed here. You can go to this website and download free version which works but has some limitation. If you like it, buy it and remove the limits.
Also, please read this on front page!
This is a great community, so let's keep it clean.
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This looks like a cracked version of a comercial application located here: Google Navigator I don't think it is alowed here. You can go to this website and download free version which works but has some limitation. If you like it, buy it and remove the limits.
Also, please read this on front page!
This is a great community, so let's keep it clean.
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You don't know what you're talking so shut the hell up.
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You don't know what you're talking so shut the hell up.
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Enlighten me, please. I am listening... unless this is the only thing you are smart enought to say.
Cody doesn't usually post warez here (that I'm aware of.)
Edit: but this one sure looks that way.
I tried the trial version as well with the same errors.
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You don't know what you're talking so shut the hell up.
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That comment is completely inappropriate for these forums.
drew826 said:
That comment is completely inappropriate for these forums.
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Thanks for support.
I didn't flag the post or was rude, just stated the obvious. This is absolutely a cracked application and there are plenty of places on the net where it is allowed and tolerated; so it shoul be taken there. I recently joined this forum and I like it very much. So just wanted to ask to keep the garbage away.
I didn't realize that it was a crack before I downloaded it, but I have not used the crack. I do intend to purchase if it works well. Its a heck of a lot cheaper than Tomtom.
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Well...with 3.27 radio and 6.1 wm the program runs...locks onto GPS and crashes the program after a couple of zooms with OutOfMemoryException for me.
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That is basically what is happening to me. Do you think it is a problem with the 3.27 radio; possibly a memory leak due to an incompatibility? Those of you who are trying it with the official GPS ROM (I will not update until dcd has a release that works with the new radio) are you running out of memory too?
i didn't know it was a crack. like i said in the original post... i downgraded to a stock sprint rom so 3.65 rom update would be faster.
i never tried it. just posted it cause i thought i was a good find.
MODS (and members) please forgive me.
next time i test before i post. lol
cody
Geckotek said:
Cody doesn't usually post warez here (that I'm aware of.)
Edit: but this one sure looks that way.
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my bad..... lol.
been trying to use the trial version of this all day. i'll gladly buy it if i can get it to work, but i keep getting error msg's anytime i try to put in directions. anyone else having problems?
Hi anyone
I hear very good things about Diamond_Radio_1.00.25.05.zip concerning reception so I'd like to try it on my Raphael.
Now, I hardspled my Raphael, flashing modded roms works and with Custom RUU I have been able to flash the .31 radio rom onto my .19 radio rom device.
When I however try to flash the .05 radio rom, which is a Diamond rom, flashing fails. I assume the radio HW is exactly the same as in the Raphael so what's wrong? Is there a type-code in the rom that prevents a successful flash? How do I get this working?
Patrick
i would like to know how to do it aswell
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Hi anyone
I hear very good things about Diamond_Radio_1.00.25.05.zip concerning reception so I'd like to try it on my Raphael.
Now, I hardspled my Raphael, flashing modded roms works and with Custom RUU I have been able to flash the .31 radio rom onto my .19 radio rom device.
When I however try to flash the .05 radio rom, which is a Diamond rom, flashing fails. I assume the radio HW is exactly the same as in the Raphael so what's wrong? Is there a type-code in the rom that prevents a successful flash? How do I get this working?
Patrick
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This has already been discussed. Flashing Diamond radios on the Raphael does not work. See this thread:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=410620
Well, obviously it hasn't been discussed adequately yet.
I've been watching that thread and it doesn't really contain an answer as to why it doesn't work and whether there is a possibility to get it working.
That thread also doesn't give a definite answer to the question whether or not the Diamond and Touch Pro use the exact same radio hardware so I think the validity of my questions is fine.
apd said:
This has already been discussed. Flashing Diamond radios on the Raphael does not work. See this thread:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=410620
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What about (from the other thread you were asked to read):
cmonex said:
OK I know now why.
raphael radio won't flash on diamond and diamond radio won't flash on raphael. even if their contents are the same - I have such radios here (this proves they are compatible). there is a reason for this (yes, HTC, again artificial limitation!!!)
there is one way around this - if you are security unlocked in radio it will flash no problem.
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heh, has no one read my #28 post?
again, diamond radio will not flash but not due to incompatibility. it is artificial limitation which can be removed with security unlocker
however there will be some people here who'll say yes the radio flashed - that is because they ran the diamond sec unlocker.
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cmonex and OliPro (OliNex) are still working on a Raph Security Unlocker. Saying their work in inadequate is bordering on offensive, given how much they provided this comunity with.
Just wait like everyone else.
Dave
My my, so stating that something has not been discussed enough means that someone’s effort is inadequate? I think your somewhat hostile reaction to my post is out of line. I didn't say anyone’s work is inadequate! Read again!
As you can read, cmonex states he knows they are compatible, he doesn't say whether or not they are the same! There is a difference you know?
And as to what the incompatibility is, there is no answer for that yet. At least, not in that thread so I posted my message with the combination of questions I have to find out if anyone else knows more.
I don’t find your reaction bordering on offensive, I find it offensive. You seem to think you can dictate what I'm allowed to ask and what opinion I'm allowed to have.
DaveShaw said:
What about (from the other thread you were asked to read):
cmonex and OliPro (OliNex) are still working on a Raph Security Unlocker. Saying their work in inadequate is bordering on offensive, given how much they provided this comunity with.
Just wait like everyone else.
Dave
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bozotheclown said:
My my, so stating that something has not been discussed enough means that someone’s effort is inadequate? I think your somewhat hostile reaction to my post is out of line. I didn't say anyone’s work is inadequate! Read again!
As you can read, cmonex states he knows they are compatible, he doesn't say whether or not they are the same! There is a difference you know?
And as to what the incompatibility is, there is no answer for that yet. At least, not in that thread so I posted my message with the combination of questions I have to find out if anyone else knows more.
I don’t find your reaction bordering on offensive, I find it offensive. You seem to think you can dictate what I'm allowed to ask and what opinion I'm allowed to have.
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I'm not dictating anything.
The discussion was complete, a security unlocker is required to get a Diamond ROM to work on a Raph. cmonex and OliPro (as well as Jockyw2001) have provided these in the past and more than likley will again.
Dave
You weren't? It seems that's a matter of opinion. Even now, you are telling me that I should consider the discussion completed whilst I obviously disagree and am still seeking more answers.
Anyway, I don't see how your rude rant helps finding more answers so are we done?
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I'm not dictating anything.
The discussion was complete, a security unlocker is required to get a Diamond ROM to work on a Raph. cmonex and OliPro (as well as Jockyw2001) have provided these in the past and more than likley will again.
Dave
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... cmonex states he knows they are compatible, he
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I think you'll find that cmonex is a she rather than a he ;-)
Oops, now that IS something to be sorry about I admit to being a male chauvinistic pig sometimes This shows that assumption is the mother of all f&*k ups.
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I think you'll find that cmonex is a she rather than a he ;-)
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You weren't? It seems that's a matter of opinion. Even now, you are telling me that I should consider the discussion completed whilst I obviously disagree and am still seeking more answers.
Anyway, I don't see how your rude rant helps finding more answers so are we done?
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I never intended to be rude, for that I am sorry. I just type and asume the same tone in my head goes down on paper, which is this case it didn't.
To discuss this further, cmonex has identified that the two radios are compatable, but a security unlocker is required for the raph in order for to allow a radio from a diamond to be flashed on to it. This is what you raph users will be patiently waiting for.
Hopefully this clarifies things.
Thanks
Dave
It's all right dude, I can certainly understand your passion
I'm with you so far and I was hoping there are more people seeking answers out there. Hence the question. Anyway, we'd better use our efforts to get more out of our Raphaels then bug each into blind rages
Anyway, I appreciate your apologies and they're not necessary as I myself tend to like it a bit too much to play someone when someone gets passionate like you did. Sorry for that
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I never intended to be rude, for that I am sorry. I just type and asume the same tone in my head goes down on paper, which is this case it didn't.
To discuss this further, cmonex has identified that the two radios are compatable, but a security unlocker is required for the raph in order for to allow a radio from a diamond to be flashed on to it. This is what you raph users will be patiently waiting for.
Hopefully this clarifies things.
Thanks
Dave
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Seriously, this was all concluded in the other thread.
cmonex very clearly stated in that thread that the reason Diamond radios don't work at the moment is because of an extra limitation that HTC has added to the Raphael - That will be a non-issue once the security unlocker is released.
Which other answers are you still seeking, bozotheclown - as far as I can see the only question you asked has very clearly been shown to you by apd and DaveShaw?
My questions are serious and I'm looking for what ther exacte compatibility issue is so I can try to help out.
And if that's what you see you missed it.
BTW. I don't see what questioning ones questions does for finding answers.
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Seriously, this was all concluded in the other thread.
cmonex very clearly stated in that thread that the reason Diamond radios don't work at the moment is because of an extra limitation that HTC has added to the Raphael - That will be a non-issue once the security unlocker is released.
Which other answers are you still seeking, bozotheclown - as far as I can see the only question you asked has very clearly been shown to you by apd and DaveShaw?
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My questions are serious and I'm looking for what ther exacte compatibility issue is so I can try to help out.
And if that's what you see you missed it.
BTW. I don't see what questioning ones questions does for finding answers.
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Glad its all sorted and no hard feelings. I get stressed when "I think" I'm been bated, there's a little cocky kid on a wiki I'm gonna get one day... Im just biding my time.
There are Security unlock apps out there, Jockyw2001 wrote the one for the kaiser, that sets a flag in the low level storage area of the phone (the nand i think) that allows you greater access to the deice that normal.
i.e. You can format the SPL when sec unlocked. (Though I wouldn't advise it)
Anyway...
If you want to help out, and have some knowledge of assembly language pm olinex and ask if you can help out.
Dave
Heheh What do you do for stress relief? Whatch Bottom?
I'll pm Olinex
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Glad its all sorted and no hard feelings. I get stressed when "I think" I'm been bated, there's a little cocky kid on a wiki I'm gonna get one day... Im just biding my time.
There are Security unlock apps out there, Jockyw2001 wrote the one for the kaiser, that sets a flag in the low level storage area of the phone (the nand i think) that allows you greater access to the deice that normal.
i.e. You can format the SPL when sec unlocked. (Though I wouldn't advise it)
Anyway...
If you want to help out, and have some knowledge of assembly language pm olinex and ask if you can help out.
Dave
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Hi anyone
When I however try to flash the .05 radio rom, which is a Diamond rom, flashing fails. I assume the radio HW is exactly the same as in the Raphael so what's wrong? Is there a type-code in the rom that prevents a successful flash?
Patrick
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yes. different RSA key is used to sign the radio.NB for raphael. the radio bootloader is the same for both, so it must dynamically select the correct public key for the device it is running on - which is possible by querying the PID (sort of a device model id), stored in regioninfo in nand.
security unlock gets around this by not checking the RSA at all when flashing.
hopefully that is detailed enough
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Heheh What do you do for stress relief? Whatch Bottom?
I'll pm Olinex
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better PM cmonex or Olipro, OliNex is just for posting stuff we make together. =)
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There are Security unlock apps out there, Jockyw2001 wrote the one for the kaiser, that sets a flag in the low level storage area of the phone (the nand i think) that allows you greater access to the deice that normal.
i.e. You can format the SPL when sec unlocked. (Though I wouldn't advise it)
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just some comments
1. yea, both jocky and olinex implemented a method, they use different ways to get the same result.
the flag is in memory, then written back to nand in jocky's solution. olinex solution uses the AMSS to set it in the more "official" way.
2. you can but on diamond or raphael you will not currently have a way to get out of that. for some reason, you cannot see the USB when in dload or oemsbl command line. (note, even without being unlocked, you could do the SPL erase and restore just fine using frankenkaiser on the kaiser generation, kaiser, polaris, niki, sedna etc...)
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just some comments
1. yea, both jocky and olinex implemented a method, they use different ways to get the same result.
the flag is in memory, then written back to nand in jocky's solution. olinex solution uses the AMSS to set it in the more "official" way.
2. you can but on diamond or raphael you will not currently have a way to get out of that. for some reason, you cannot see the USB when in dload or oemsbl command line. (note, even without being unlocked, you could do the SPL erase and restore just fine using frankenkaiser on the kaiser generation, kaiser, polaris, niki, sedna etc...)
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I see I still have a long way to go, and most of my work is best guess from what I've read in places joined together.
Thanks for the corrections, I learn a little each day.
Dave
i was experimenting on my htc touch pro and I flashed a program called diamond unlocker. I think it might be another name for athena unlocker. Now phone wouldn't even power up. freaking out big time. please help!!
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i was experimenting on my htc touch pro and I flashed a program called diamond unlocker. I think it might be another name for athena unlocker. Now phone wouldn't even power up. freaking out big time. please help!!
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Sounds like you have bricked your phone big time.
Where on your Raphael does it say Diamond or Athena, all unlockers are device specific.
Can you enter the bootloader at all?
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Dave
NO i can't enter bootloader. I can't even power up. I was testing unlocker programs and I found a program called "diamond unlocker". I thought I give it a shot and next thing you know the phone blanks out. Hard-reset doesn't work because I can't even power up.
I knew this thing cooking thing was playing with fire. What should I do now?? Stressing out big time.
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NO i can't enter bootloader. I can't even power up. I was testing unlocker programs and I found a program called "diamond unlocker". I thought I give it a shot and next thing you know the phone blanks out. Hard-reset doesn't work because I can't even power up.
I knew this thing cooking thing was playing with fire. What should I do now?? Stressing out big time.
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Hmm ok i will sidestep the "what were you thinking flashing a diamond unlocker to your raphael when your device is NOT a diamond" lecture and simply state that you have most likely messed up your device totally...unless there is something olipro/cmonex can do to help you you have a paperweight.
Sorry sir.
Would the phone be covered by warranty? I can't power it up, so i assume the techies would just replace the whole phone. Has anyone return a brick phone to technicans and what was the outcome?
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Hmm ok i will sidestep the "what were you thinking flashing a diamond unlocker to your raphael when your device is NOT a diamond" lecture and simply state that you have most likely messed up your device totally...unless there is something olipro/cmonex can do to help you you have a paperweight.
Sorry sir.
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Maybe, ViperBJK might also be able to help.
You could try PM'ing one of those three, if they can't fix it then your pretty much done for.
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i was experimenting on my htc touch pro and I flashed a program called diamond unlocker. I think it might be another name for athena unlocker. Now phone wouldn't even power up. freaking out big time. please help!!
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Let met guess,you downloaded that on a torrent site,if you donated 15 euro to olipro you did not have this problem you have now.
tinuz97 said:
Let met guess,you downloaded that on a torrent site,if you donated 15 euro to olipro you did not have this problem you have now.
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If that is the case I wouldn't hold out for help from Olipro or cmonex.
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Would the phone be covered by warranty? I can't power it up, so i assume the techies would just replace the whole phone. Has anyone return a brick phone to technicans and what was the outcome?
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Its been stated here so many times, read the instructions before you flash/do anything...
Warranty the device, maybe they dont realize what you did...
You can also admit that you didnt donate for the unlocker...
My phone was already unlocked before I install the offending program. And No I didn't download it from a torrent site or illegal warez site.
How did you get it then?
hmmmm . . . Did you try the most stupid and simple stuff, like taking the battery out for a couple of hours, taking the sim and SD card if any, etc...
I will be joining Fuze group today...
Maybe I can offer a little help, I don't know the Fuze yet, won't have one for a few hours, but I had some great success unbricking hundreds of Tilts & this led to a cooperative project ending with Jocky putting everything learned into FrankenKaiser.
I will take a look at the firmware when I get my device, after much research of course, & let you know what I think. It may be a tedious project though as it might require a redio hack to allow DL mode to be entered from OEMSBL.
Oli, Viper & Jockey are all great resources, but they get a lot of PM's so it may take some time. Once I get a feeling for it & you answer a few questions for me, I can then go to them with more than just symptoms.
Be patient & we'll get it working as we've done for hundreds of Kaiser owners.
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I will be joining the Fuze group today.
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Well that's just great. There goes the neigborhood.
GSLEON3 said:
Maybe I can offer a little help, I don't know the Fuze yet, won't have one for a few hours, but I had some great success unbricking hundreds of Tilts & this led to a cooperative project ending with Jocky putting everything learned into FrankenKaiser.
I will take a look at the firmware when I get my device, after much research of course, & let you know what I think. It may be a tedious project though as it might require a redio hack to allow DL mode to be entered from OEMSBL.
Oli, Viper & Jockey are all great resources, but they get a lot of PM's so it may take some time. Once I get a feeling for it & you answer a few questions for me, I can then go to them with more than just symptoms.
Be patient & we'll get it working as we've done for hundreds of Kaiser owners.
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unfortunately there is no access to download mode on diamond and raphael and any newer devices.
the USB interface is simply disabled, we don't know how to get around that - yet.
the other thing is, on new radios (HD, xperia, G1, etc...), the radio is locked for flashing. kaiser radio wasn't supposed to allow flashing unsigned code either, just HTC left a nice bug in the rsa check.
trust me the kaiser was heaven compared to the days now... but we like challenge don't we
so this device is a brick - he can RMA it or jtag it.
Wow, I am shocked. I've never heard a response quite like that from the esteemed cmonex That means if it is even possible, then it's burried & will take some time to finess out.
I'll tell you one thing though buddy, if its under the mfg warrentee then that's gonna be your fastest way. I know that Cmonex & Oli have spent some time poking around this area for sure, so if she says there's no way & says to RMA it, well that means we're still a good way off from finding the doorway into dload mode.
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My phone was already unlocked before I install the offending program. And No I didn't download it from a torrent site or illegal warez site.
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probably you got it from ppcgeeks site eh? the instructions says it's only for cdma :/
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Wow, I am shocked. I've never heard a response quite like that from the esteemed cmonex That means if it is even possible, then it's burried & will take some time to finess out.
I'll tell you one thing though buddy, if its under the mfg warrentee then that's gonna be your fastest way. I know that Cmonex & Oli have spent some time poking around this area for sure, so if she says there's no way & says to RMA it, well that means we're still a good way off from finding the doorway into dload mode.
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yes this will be a big challenge is what i meant above BTW it would be cool to work together =) have you got your Fuze yet?
Jup, this is also my answer :
RMA or Jtag. No other way.
Cya,
Viper BJK
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Jup, this is also my answer :
RMA or Jtag. No other way.
Cya,
Viper BJK
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No you forgot 1,still the option of trashcan