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Okay today I intentionally bricked my phone. Not once, not twice, but 6 times with three bad ROM's (long boring day) and pulled the USB during the flashing at around 20%-95% as well as other no,no's
The experiment. To see how fast, and what I would use to unbrick it. Now being stuck in an all white screen or bootloader might bring fear or tears to some, but what I discovered is probably the best and easiest way to get your phone back to life in a relatively short amount of time.
If this has been covered before or mentioned elsewhere I didn't see it so I apologize if thats the case.
After I bricked each time I simply hooked up the usb cable to my pc. As you know when you are bricked or stuck in a loader Active Sync does not launch. What I found was that if you use a factory WM6 AT&T ROM it will still connect via usb and will flash said ROM 100% of the time restoring you're phone to a working state.
Now I did this 6 times today and it worked every time. I mean I really f'd with this second phone unplugging, Task Manager'd out during a flash, hard reset during a flash, etc. Every time it worked.
Hope this helps.
Well, you have been only lucky for 1 reason:
You always 'bricked' your device when it was in the middle of flashing the OS! This does not really matter as long as BOOTLOADER and CID are intact!
Do the same experiment but this time pull the plug at 15% and you will most likely fail to recover from that! At around 15% is the moment where the CID block gets written to the phones ROM.
Be very carefully that you do not 'brick' your device earlier because of in the state before 15% IPL and SPL are getting flashed! If you destroy the bootloader you can't do anything anymore!
If you are going to try that out please flash your phone first with the nbh from the CINGULAR WM5 (it is in the wiki) by using CustomRUU! CINGULAR WM5 has KITL enabled and you will be able to 'unbrick' your device by using the GUIDE in the WIKI.
I WILL NOT BE RESPONSIBLE IF YOU BREAK YOUR DEVICE TO A POINT OF NO RECOVERY POSSIBLE!
CID block is never written to the phone, it's just an area of storage inside the GSM chip.
however, if incomplete code is flashed to the GSM chip, the radio AT interface cant' boot... and then there's no way of talking to it, hence making it now dead.
On a different note, if the Radio Bootloader is in the middle of flashing (although I believe 0108 is persistent) and the connection is broken, you're now royally ****ed.
So, the GSM chip is not in the phone then?
<just kidding!>
However,
pulling the plug around 15% will most likely end in a brick! That was where I had my pc crash - thankfully KITL was enabled!
Tried again
Okay I did this at 12% and then at 16% (could not time it right for 15%) and I was able to recover. If I am just one lucky bastard, and this is highly against the odds, I would say don't do this on purpose like me.
My only point of the experiment was to see if I was to ever brick, at least I knew of one possibility that would recover it. And when looking at it like that it was a success.
Now that all is back to normal, I have HARD SPL.7 and have no issues.
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Okay I did this at 12% and then at 16% (could not time it right for 15%) and I was able to recover. If I am just one lucky bastard, and this is highly against the odds, I would say don't do this on purpose like me.
My only point of the experiment was to see if I was to ever brick, at least I knew of one possibility that would recover it. And when looking at it like that it was a success.
Now that all is back to normal, I have HARD SPL.7 and have no issues.
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HARD SPL? try a different SPL and then try it again...
Oh yeah... Try to kill your bootloader too... And if it's like one of my devices
(HTC Charmer with a black screen... Only the power led lights up for half a second when I press the power button)
then try to flash your "holy" rom
eh, i don't understand why people call it bricking if only the OS needs a reflash
I wasn't clear. The phone was never hard SPL'd till after the experiment when I decided to lock the ***** up to keep it safe from doing more stupid stuff. The os flash wasn't all I crashed out on. I did this with this on purpose with the radio versions as well.
ihavetinyballs said:
I wasn't clear. The phone was never hard SPL'd till after the experiment when I decided to lock the ***** up to keep it safe from doing more stupid stuff. The os flash wasn't all I crashed out on. I did this with this on purpose with the radio versions as well.
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then you are crazy
There are 2 possible explanations for your "luck":
Either the ROM you're flashing contains nothing but the OS and maybe the EXTENDED ROM in which case it does not really matter if you pull the plug because of your BOOTLOADER and GSM will remain intact or your FLASHING UTILITY 'ignors' the BOOTLOADER / GSM flash and writes only the OS and EXTENDED (which would have the same effect as case 1 when pulling the plug!).
However,
flashing an entire ROM takes a while, especially between 12% and 30% if you flash IPL / SPL / SPLASH / GSM / OS / EXTENDED - there is enough time to pull the plug at 15% because of it takes almost a minute until it jumps to 16% ...
I don't want to animate you to try that out because of sooner or later you will brick the device for sure!
Can you host the ROM file + flashing utility you used for your experiments, so, that we can download it and take a closer look?
ihavetinyballs said:
I wasn't clear. The phone was never hard SPL'd till after the experiment when I decided to lock the ***** up to keep it safe from doing more stupid stuff. The os flash wasn't all I crashed out on. I did this with this on purpose with the radio versions as well.
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The world belongs to renegades and mavericks...
I did it with TNT's latest as well as VP3G 3.62
OK I'll bite where is WM6 AT&T ROM?
I have a bircked phone tytn (tried to unsucessfully unbrick around 50 times), not sure why or where it bricked.
Can reload but sticks at screen alignemnt EVERY TIME.
Was given as a challenge (failed so far).
If I could find this and it worked I be happy chappy long time.
If it works of mine it will work on anyone's.
Give it up dudes (or duedess if there is one out there).
Here is the secret. Use the bundled WM5 Cingular ROM from HTCs download site.
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Here is the secret. Use the bundled WM5 Cingular ROM from HTCs download site.
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Do you have a link, filename or even better can post on Rapidshare?
Edit: btw, the moniker is hilarious!
rob8 said:
Do you have a link, filename or even better can post on Rapidshare?
Edit: btw, the moniker is hilarious!
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He gave you the info you need. Go to HTC's site. Or use google.
K since i took the time to post this I might as well link it.
Go to the bottom of this page.
It is about time to give out a WARNING !!!
People, do not try to brick your device and trust in that you can recover from that by using the ROM from the HTC's website! This is not a magic tool and it won't bring your Hermes back to life if your device is really screwed up! There is nothing in the Cingular ROM what 'magically' does the trick! IHAVETINYBALLS was either just lucky or he isn't really bricking his device (consciously or unconsciously).
If you do not believe me ask other senior members with lots of experiences, such as OliP ...
However, I know there is no way of stopping fools to do foolish things, so, go ahead, destroy your expensive toy! You can always find a new one on eBay ... !
For all the retards who don't get it. (meaning the point)
To the dip**** retards who don't get the point. Like I said, I am probably just lucky. And like I said again, DO NOT try this unless your phone is stuck and ****ed, it was just an experiment. I have two 8525's one I bought as a refurb from AT&T for $99 and another one that was from an angry owner who threw it away at the AT&T store (as it was bricked and now "useless") and I pulled it from the garbage bin. Recovered it (just did a hard reset and put in a new battery and factory ROM and did a few experiments.
It didn't cost me anything and I did put a warning out there. The point of it all was that if you give up on bringing it back to life, maybe just maybe you should try this out.
Obviously if your phone is working just fine, don't do this or your a ****ing retard. Its meant for bricked or stuck phones as a possible recovery as it worked on said phone numerous times in various states of bad flashing and various types of ROMs.
This phone is now running vp3G 3.62 and now has HARD SPL.7, and Radio 1.54.07 and is running flawlessly.
So one mans brick/stuck frustration is making for an excellent spare / backup for me.
trying now
ok - have hybrid brick (no KITL, screwed CID and radio)
if everyone crosses their fingers at the same time maybe it will help???
will post back results!
Bugger
thanks for giving me hope! but alas...no good
hopefully someone else can figure out how to get back from a hybrid brick of no KITL and SPL 1.09
Hi all
Anyone here had any experiences of returning a flashed phone for a warranty claim? I wonder how carefully they inspect the set-up. I'm suffering very bad battery life (<4 hours) and a dead camera on my Vario II, but I'm sure T-Mobile won't accept a claim (WM6, Radio 1.43, HardSPL, unlocked etc).
I can revert some things, for instance I got the original T-Mobile WM5 installed OK but can't find the original Radio ROM (1.05).
If there's no hope I'll just open the bugger up and try jiggling the camera connector or just remove it completely!!
sim
if youre returning your phone to a brick and mortar store then as long as it looks unmodded then I don't think they'd notice. Like if you reflashed with the provider's logo, etc.... they are just sales people, MOST of them know very little about any technical aspect of the phone. From my experience of getting one of my phones exchanged the reps I spoke to were not able to answer my technical problems, which is why I replaced it... so i say go for it
Hi zammykoo,
Do they not send it back to a service centre for evaluation? I'm a bit worried that even if the shop gives me a replacement on the spot, they might check out my busted model later and then slap me with a penalty fee or something.
sim
what exactly is the problem you are having with the camera? if it is under warranty then shouldn't it cover manufacturer defects like that? if that is the case. and it should apply to the bad battery life too, if those things were not caused by you (like water damage, they can tell) then they wouldn't have anything to say..... but as far as software reflash then i really don't think it'll matter cause they will probably reflash it themselves to clear out any previous user settings before putting back on the market
Hi there,
I just found an official WM6 flash from T-Mobile UK, so I've flashed that and taken it back to the shop for repair. Thought I'd take a chance as the phone is effectively useless at the moment (camera is dead and battery loses 20% per hour).
Thanks for your advice!
sim
Undo HardSPL? Mtty's format command clears everything?
Hi...I have a few questions about this topic as well.
It looks like my radio (hardware) died on me after a soft reset...I'd been having some problems with it before then. Anyways, I went through my provider's warranty exchange and I'm about to send my old handset back. My questions:
1) I'm stuck in the bootloader screen, since I couldn't upgrade my radio. I have Hard-SPL installed on my device, and you can see that (it says "Olipro" in the bootloader screen). Is there any way to remove Hard-SPL, or do you guys think I even need to worry/bother with that?
2) In the process of trying to reflash my phone and fix things myself, I used mtty and its format command...What exactly does that format? Is my phone's memory completely clean? That's fine by me if it is; I don't think that would be an issue with service personnel. I'm just wanting to know exactly what mtty's format does.
In addition, if anyone else has had to make a return under similar conditions, I'd appreciate hearing about your experience. THANKS!
i dont think any spl have a format command!!!!
r u kidding???
No, SPL's don't have a format command (that I know of!); I used this utility called mtty...I read about it here in the forums; it comes in handy when you're trying to recover from a bad flash, I think.
Anyone else have an answer to my questions?
1) I'm stuck in the bootloader screen, since I couldn't upgrade my radio. I have Hard-SPL installed on my device, and you can see that (it says "Olipro" in the bootloader screen). Is there any way to remove Hard-SPL, or do you guys think I even need to worry/bother with that?
2) In the process of trying to reflash my phone and fix things myself, I used mtty and its format command...What exactly does that format? Is my phone's memory completely clean? That's fine by me if it is; I don't think that would be an issue with service personnel. I'm just wanting to know exactly what mtty's format does.
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I had no problem with AT&T returning several unlocked and upgraded phones for replacement.
Thank for the response...
tvone said:
I had no problem with AT&T returning several unlocked and upgraded phones for replacement.
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tvone, thanks for taking the time to respond; I appreciate it.
Based on what you're telling me, I guess I won't worry about "downgrading" from HardSPL before taking it in.
If anyone has a different experience - or would just like to provide more reassurance (I'd love to have it!) - please let me know soon...I'll be taking care of this today!
THANKS!
Hi,
I have a Jasjam which is getting NoGSM errors. I believe this may be causing my hanging issues that I've been having a lot of.
I've had a look at the Wiki page on this, and a couple of things aren't very clear.
I'm currently running Bootloader SPL-1.10, and it says to go back to 1.04. Can I change to SPL-2.10Oli to do this as well (I guess this is easier).
Also, after this step, it says to Flash the patched radio to simunlock my jasjam, however it is already simunlocked.
I just wanted to clarify these things before giving this a go, so if anybody can enlighten me it would be greatly appreciated, as it is really starting to get to me.
Thanks for your help.
Paul
NoGSM Error in Jasjam - clarification of wiki
Just wanted to change the title...
Just wanted to bump this to see if anybody can help me out. I'm still having NoGSM problems, have tried the fix on the Wiki, but things aren't completely clear, as so far it hasn't made any difference.
Sorry mate, probably because no-one HAS a surefire method to fix the "No GSM" problem. Lots of people claim that something fixed it but they seem to keep popping up in the threads still trying to fix their problem. You might have to just try everything until you either give up or something noticeably improves or someone pulls the answer out of thin air.. We all live under the threat of "No GSM" and dread the day if/when it will finally arrive... Sorry to be the bearer of bad news but you can shoot me til your hearts content.
Cheers...
Thanks for that, so pretty much I should keep on trying to flash different radios until I find one that sticks around for a while?
Would try to flash a stock rom 1st. What Telco are you with? Use their "Official"rom and see if that works. THEN go nus trying radio only roms. Chances are though that if you can't flash 1 radio rom your radio has been corrupted and is unrecoverable.
Good Luck
ultramag69 said:
Would try to flash a stock rom 1st. What Telco are you with? Use their "Official"rom and see if that works. THEN go nus trying radio only roms. Chances are though that if you can't flash 1 radio rom your radio has been corrupted and is unrecoverable.
Good Luck
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Hi, I've got a Jasjam (so therefore it's a Telstra phone). I've gone from the official rom to unofficial roms and back again. I've installed individual radio roms. Most things go onto the phone fine, and it will work perfectly for maybe half a day, and then it crashes, and when I restart I get NoGSM. I might reset it 5 times, and then the radio will come back.
I bought it on ebay, but I've managed to get hold of the details to get a duplicate invoice, so I've put the phone back onto Telstra ROM and a standard SPL, and I'm going to get them to have a look at it, as it looks as though it's a hardware problem, unless any of you smart bods here have other ideas...
Can anybody shed any extra light before I take it into the shop? Just don't want to admit defeat if I can
If you can, the best way to fix is through warranty. If they try to fix 3 times and fail they have to give you a new handset. I believe Telstra no longer have the jasjams so you might be upgraded to the Tytn II.
Cheers....
The problem: I flashed a radio to my device that is (obviously) incompatible with my device (if you really want the details, its embarassing, but I'll post if necessary). My phone freezes on bootup, and never initializes the Radio/ROM (and for good reason).
This is what happens now: If my phone is off, I can turn it on, but I only get the first boot up screen, and the red numbers in the bottom right-hand corner never appear. At that point, I cannot turn off my phone without taking out the battery. If I take out the battery and put it back in, and attach the phone to a charger (or USB cable), the light on the phone will "breathe", as if its charging. However, if I then disconnect the phone, the light will CONTINUE breathing.
I also cannot turn on the phone while its connected to either the charger or USB cable.
My phone is Hard-SPL'ed and Security Unlocked. But the real issue I'm having is that I can't get into Bootloader to flash something else. Apparently, I've corrupted the Bootloader. When I turn the phone on, and press the reset button while holding Vol-down, the phone just goes black.
I might be okay getting a warranty exchange if not for this: I can still hard reset my phone. It doesn't make any sense to me, but when I turn it on, I can do the soft-reset-button, Vol-down, Action button combo, and my phone flashes through Bootloader to give the the hard reset menu. It flashes that screen just long enough to see that my phone has 1.90Olinex as the SPL. So, I think I may be screwed, unless someone here can help.
My wife is very . . . upset . . . about this, and is worried that we'll have to spend money because of my continuous "tinkering" with my phone.
Any help anyone can offer is greatly appreciated.
I know this is my own stupid fault, and I should've known better, but it would be nice to get confirmation from the experts here that I'm just going to have to chalk one up in the "L" column at this point.
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Have you tried to flash from the SD card?
Hi Captain_Throwback,
Try copying Raph Radio 1.11.25.01 to the root of a FAT32 SD Card ... you'll need to rename the .NBH to RAPHIMG.NBH.
Pull the SIM out of the phone and power it back on as per usual; I've noticed that the phone "blacks out" for a bit but then switches to flash mode.
Good luck.
PS: suggest getting the large carry-on with the wheels for the guilt trip - heaven knows it's come in handy for me
That's a bummer, man. You gotta at least 'fess up part of the story to prevent someone else from falling into the same trap (however unlikely that may be). And maybe, just maybe, it will help someone else figure out how to fix your problem.
What radio did you try and flash.
Hopefully it wasn't the new Rhodium radio? Or a Rose radio?
I have done this a few times on my tilt, all I did was put it into the boot loader, it worked from hard reset screen as well, and flashed the rom via activesync. I am assuming that you are not able to get a sync, or have you tried yet? I know my fize will also sync [to flash] from bootloadr.
Captain_Throwback said:
The problem: I flashed a radio to my device that is (obviously) incompatible with my device (if you really want the details, its embarassing, but I'll post if necessary). My phone freezes on bootup, and never initializes the Radio/ROM (and for good reason).
This is what happens now: If my phone is off, I can turn it on, but I only get the first boot up screen, and the red numbers in the bottom right-hand corner never appear. At that point, I cannot turn off my phone without taking out the battery. If I take out the battery and put it back in, and attach the phone to a charger (or USB cable), the light on the phone will "breathe", as if its charging. However, if I then disconnect the phone, the light will CONTINUE breathing.
I also cannot turn on the phone while its connected to either the charger or USB cable.
My phone is Hard-SPL'ed and Security Unlocked. But the real issue I'm having is that I can't get into Bootloader to flash something else. Apparently, I've corrupted the Bootloader. When I turn the phone on, and press the reset button while holding Vol-down, the phone just goes black.
I might be okay getting a warranty exchange if not for this: I can still hard reset my phone. It doesn't make any sense to me, but when I turn it on, I can do the soft-reset-button, Vol-down, Action button combo, and my phone flashes through Bootloader to give the the hard reset menu. It flashes that screen just long enough to see that my phone has 1.90Olinex as the SPL. So, I think I may be screwed, unless someone here can help.
My wife is very . . . upset . . . about this, and is worried that we'll have to spend money because of my continuous "tinkering" with my phone.
Any help anyone can offer is greatly appreciated.
I know this is my own stupid fault, and I should've known better, but it would be nice to get confirmation from the experts here that I'm just going to have to chalk one up in the "L" column at this point.
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Damn I'm sorry to hear about your issue and i feel for ya because I did some stupid **** myself a lil' while back if you remember. Your advice to reflash the oem rom worked for me 100%. Have you tried hard resetting and then trying to get into bootloader mode?
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What radio did you try and flash.
Hopefully it wasn't the new Rhodium radio? Or a Rose radio?
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Ok, I'll tell you . . . it wasn't a Rose radio (I know P1Tater bricked his phone that way) . . . but I figured, the Rhodium, its got the same hardware, right? I mean, T-Mobile is a GSM carrier . . . If I patch it for Raph, it may work . . . even though the radio number is so much different . . . I should still be able to get into Bootloader if it doesn't work, because I'm HardSPL'ed . . .
But no. I can't get into Bootloader. Believe me, I've tried. Every time I try, the phone just goes black. And I have a nice stock AT&T ROM on my Storage Card ready to flash, if only I could get it onto the phone.
I tried plugging into the computer, but it won't recognize the phone at all.
I wish it was REALLY bricked, but the fact that I can still hard reset it is very disappointing.
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Ok, I'll tell you . . . it wasn't a Rose radio (I know P1Tater bricked his phone that way) . . . but I figured, the Rhodium, its got the same hardware, right? I mean, T-Mobile is a GSM carrier . . . If I patch it for Raph, it may work . . . even though the radio number is so much different . . . I should still be able to get into Bootloader if it doesn't work, because I'm HardSPL'ed . . .
But no. I can't get into Bootloader. Believe me, I've tried. Every time I try, the phone just goes black. And I have a nice stock AT&T ROM on my Storage Card ready to flash, if only I could get it onto the phone.
I tried plugging into the computer, but it won't recognize the phone at all.
I wish it was REALLY bricked, but the fact that I can still hard reset it is very disappointing.
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This happened to me (sort of.) I flashed a diamond radio to my fuze... without security unlocking it first. Symptom wise, Exact same thing happened. I was able to (after days of tinkering) get it into bootloader from the hard reset screen. I just kept pressing the Hard rest sequence over and over while connected to USB. I noticed, one time, I got the USB at the bottom. Don't know how, don't know why, it just happened, I was then able to flash the Stock Cing ROM. Wierd stuff, But lucky. Hope you get it back on board. Is it insured? Because it would really suck if someone stole your bricked fuze.
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This happened to me (sort of.) I flashed a diamond radio to my fuze... without security unlocking it first. Symptom wise, Exact same thing happened. I was able to (after days of tinkering) get it into bootloader from the hard reset screen. I just kept pressing the Hard rest sequence over and over while connected to USB. I noticed, one time, I got the USB at the bottom. Don't know how, don't know why, it just happened, I was then able to flash the Stock Cing ROM. Wierd stuff, But lucky. Hope you get it back on board. Is it insured? Because it would really suck if someone stole your bricked fuze.
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It is insured, and paying $125 is better than having to buy a brand new phone, but if I can avoid spending money, my wife would be much happier .
I can hard reset just fine . . . if only the phone would stay on the bootloader screen when doing that . . . but it doesn't. I assume the bootloader has been corrupted, which is why the phone blacks out when trying to enter bootloader mode. I'll keep trying, I guess. I can't make it any worse. Actually, if I could, I'd be better off, so that way they can't find out my phone is Hard-SPL'ed.
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I can hard reset just fine . . . if only the phone would stay on the bootloader screen when doing that . . . but it doesn't. I assume the bootloader has been corrupted, which is why the phone blacks out when trying to enter bootloader mode. I'll keep trying, I guess. I can't make it any worse. Actually, if I could, I'd be better off, so that way they can't find out my phone is Hard-SPL'ed.
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Try plugging it into a car battery, or something like that, and fry the sucker. That's my only piece of advice.
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I can't make it any worse. Actually, if I could, I'd be better off, so that way they can't find out my phone is Hard-SPL'ed.
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You could make it worse if you get the white sticker wet and make it turn pink, but that would be very bad for you.
You are at the point to where you cant move beyond your current predicament in wither way. Im afraid I see no other alternative than to pay the $125.
Maybe you could sell your Fuze on Ebay for 125 to cover your insurance cost and you could make a notation on the Ebay site saying something like 'PARTIALLY USED FUZE' like that Carfax commercial does.
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My phone is still bricked, but I'm taking it to a repair shop after work, where I'll find out whether I'll be getting a free warranty replacement, or paying $125 for an insurance replacement. At least I've been able to successfully determine that a Rhodium radio cannot be flashed to a Raphael. So no one else has to try it .
Keep us updated dude. Also, if you slip the guy $50 he may do the free warranty replacement for you... it might save you $75 and you wont have to use up one of your insurance claims.
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My phone is still bricked, but I'm taking it to a repair shop after work, where I'll find out whether I'll be getting a free warranty replacement, or paying $125 for an insurance replacement. At least I've been able to successfully determine that a Rhodium radio cannot be flashed to a Raphael. So no one else has to try it .
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Crap, sorry to hear that. HAAH, just walk into the ATT store and say," I tried turning the phone on and this is what happened." And that you have never heard of XDA forums, roms, and though a radio was only for people in trucks or that wear camo.
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Crap, sorry to hear that. HAAH, just walk into the ATT store and say," I tried turning the phone on and this is what happened." And that you have never heard of XDA forums, roms, and though a radio was only for people in trucks or that wear camo.
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That might work, if I hadn't bought the phone from my best friend, who just happens to manage an AT&T store. He actually knows that I had a custom ROM on my phone, and called ahead to the repair shop to let them know I was coming, and he said hopefully they won't notice the SPL in my bootloader if they try and hard reset it. So it is possible they'll just give the phone a cursory look to make sure its really not working, and then go ahead with a warranty replacement. I'll be sure to let everyone know what happens. In the meantime, the word of the day is "dumbass", LOL.
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Try plugging it into a car battery, or something like that, and fry the sucker. That's my only piece of advice.
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That's what I would do.
Captain_Throwback said:
My phone is still bricked, but I'm taking it to a repair shop after work, where I'll find out whether I'll be getting a free warranty replacement, or paying $125 for an insurance replacement. At least I've been able to successfully determine that a Rhodium radio cannot be flashed to a Raphael. So no one else has to try it .
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Honestly I would not take it to the repair shop.
Here is what I would do. Call the warranty replacement department at AT&T. 1-800-801-1101. Tell them that you woke up and now your phone won't turn on. Once you go through all the steps they have to do to fix it, then they will ship you a replacement Fuze right away. The refurbished Fuze will have everything except for a battery and a back cover. Typically when I did this I received a new one the next day that I called.
Now take your battery out of your phone and your SIM card and microSD card. Put your phone in the microwave for 2 seconds. Walla. Now it's bricked and AT&T will have no way to tell if you have HardSPL or a cooked ROM on your phone. Trust me. It will work.
When you get your new phone just send the phone back in packing material that they provide to you and you won't have to spend any money to get a new phone or spend money to fix a phone.
Just do what I told you about. I promise it will work. Just trust me. I've done it before and it worked like a charm. No worries. Trust me, I'm not trying to lead you down the wrong path. I'm trying to get you a replacement just like I got when I bricked my last fuze trying out different radios. And use the phone number that AllTheWay posted just above me once you do what I told you.
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Just do what I told you about. I promise it will work. Just trust me. I've done it before and it worked like a charm. No worries. Trust me, I'm not trying to lead you down the wrong path. I'm trying to get you a replacement just like I got when I bricked my last fuze trying out different radios. And use the phone number that AllTheWay posted just above me once you do what I told you.
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I'm curious what it is you told him, in case i'm in a similar position at any point !!
Lemme kno please here or PM is cool!
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JFlitt
AllTheWay said:
That's what I would do.
Honestly I would not take it to the repair shop.
Here is what I would do. Call the warranty replacement department at AT&T. 1-800-801-1101. Tell them that you woke up and now your phone won't turn on. Once you go through all the steps they have to do to fix it, then they will ship you a replacement Fuze right away. The refurbished Fuze will have everything except for a battery and a back cover. Typically when I did this I received a new one the next day that I called.
Now take your battery out of your phone and your SIM card and microSD card. Put your phone in the microwave for 2 seconds. Walla. Now it's bricked and AT&T will have no way to tell if you have HardSPL or a cooked ROM on your phone. Trust me. It will work.
When you get your new phone just send the phone back in packing material that they provide to you and you won't have to spend any money to get a new phone or spend money to fix a phone.
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Agree with this. If your friend works at the store and knows what you have done, I wouldnt go there. Call the number, fry the damn phone and get a new one. We need you back on your feet to help solve ROM issues my friend.
ok. i flashed the hyperrom ultra v15.0 to my tmobile us hd2 and decided i wanted to flash a new radio.. just to see if i was missing the speed and agility that i hear about so much from others. i started off with a 2.10.50.26 i believe. then flashed the 2.08.50.05 with much slower speed than the original. THEN, i flashed the 2.07.51.22_2 and my phone has not powered up since. it will not go into bootloader and when the update util was done, my laptop said it needed to install a new hardware driver for qualcomm cdma. now i now this is bad. but could someone explain why it did this and why my phone isnt powering on and if ill ever be able to use it again??!!?!?! any help would be appreciated.
That sounds Bad ...
Sorry pal, you have a serious problem. The .51 radio is the culprit. I'm afraid you will have to search this out, but I am unaware of any solutions.
Good luck. Warranty?
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ok. i flashed the hyperrom ultra v15.0 to my tmobile us hd2 and decided i wanted to flash a new radio.. just to see if i was missing the speed and agility that i hear about so much from others. i started off with a 2.10.50.26 i believe. then flashed the 2.08.50.05 with much slower speed than the original. THEN, i flashed the 2.07.51.22_2 and my phone has not powered up since. it will not go into bootloader and when the update util was done, my laptop said it needed to install a new hardware driver for qualcomm cdma. now i now this is bad. but could someone explain why it did this and why my phone isnt powering on and if ill ever be able to use it again??!!?!?! any help would be appreciated.
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jswllms3 said:
ok. i flashed the hyperrom ultra v15.0 to my tmobile us hd2 and decided i wanted to flash a new radio.. just to see if i was missing the speed and agility that i hear about so much from others. i started off with a 2.10.50.26 i believe. then flashed the 2.08.50.05 with much slower speed than the original. THEN, i flashed the 2.07.51.22_2 and my phone has not powered up since. it will not go into bootloader and when the update util was done, my laptop said it needed to install a new hardware driver for qualcomm cdma. now i now this is bad. but could someone explain why it did this and why my phone isnt powering on and if ill ever be able to use it again??!!?!?! any help would be appreciated.
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Somebody on this forum already reported about similar problem. I don't remember whether the solution was found.
jswllms3 said:
ok. i flashed the hyperrom ultra v15.0 to my tmobile us hd2 and decided i wanted to flash a new radio.. just to see if i was missing the speed and agility that i hear about so much from others. i started off with a 2.10.50.26 i believe. then flashed the 2.08.50.05 with much slower speed than the original. THEN, i flashed the 2.07.51.22_2 and my phone has not powered up since. it will not go into bootloader and when the update util was done, my laptop said it needed to install a new hardware driver for qualcomm cdma. now i now this is bad. but could someone explain why it did this and why my phone isnt powering on and if ill ever be able to use it again??!!?!?! any help would be appreciated.
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Why do people not read, you CANNOT FLASH A .51 RADIO ON A T-MOBILE DEVICE. LEARN TO READ AND THIS WON'T HAPPEN.
uniqs said:
Somebody on this forum already reported about similar problem. I don't remember whether the solution was found.
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Somebody? lol, quite a few people are in that boat actually.
@jswllms3
Try searching for Jtag or .51 radio brick. And maybe post in this thread
warranty will be ok so long as you dont mention flashing.
jswllms3 said:
ok. i flashed the hyperrom ultra v15.0 to my tmobile us hd2 and decided i wanted to flash a new radio.. just to see if i was missing the speed and agility that i hear about so much from others. i started off with a 2.10.50.26 i believe. then flashed the 2.08.50.05 with much slower speed than the original. THEN, i flashed the 2.07.51.22_2 and my phone has not powered up since. it will not go into bootloader and when the update util was done, my laptop said it needed to install a new hardware driver for qualcomm cdma. now i now this is bad. but could someone explain why it did this and why my phone isnt powering on and if ill ever be able to use it again??!!?!?! any help would be appreciated.
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How Cute
You flashed a 2.07.51 radio ! ! !
Take your phone back for warranty and never flash a .51 radio again as every one else saying...
Good luck with it.
ok. lol. so its abrick. ill search a little more butthe strange thing is, when i plug it in via usb to my comp it still shows that its searching for new hardware.. i dont think its a total loss. i have the odd feeling i can revive it. but in any case, how do i turn it in for a warranty and what would i say? lol.
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ok. lol. so its abrick. ill search a little more butthe strange thing is, when i plug it in via usb to my comp it still shows that its searching for new hardware.. i dont think its a total loss. i have the odd feeling i can revive it. but in any case, how do i turn it in for a warranty and what would i say? lol.
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You say. I don't know what happen. I was charging it over night...and when I work up it was off. I turn it on and nothing happens.
what i meant to say is, im guessing i turn it into htc for the warranty, but other then flash custm roms and different radios, what other excuse would they take? i mean, they have ways of finding out right?
Maybe HELP YOU
jswllms3 said:
ok. i flashed the hyperrom ultra v15.0 to my tmobile us hd2 and decided i wanted to flash a new radio.. just to see if i was missing the speed and agility that i hear about so much from others. i started off with a 2.10.50.26 i believe. then flashed the 2.08.50.05 with much slower speed than the original. THEN, i flashed the 2.07.51.22_2 and my phone has not powered up since. it will not go into bootloader and when the update util was done, my laptop said it needed to install a new hardware driver for qualcomm cdma. now i now this is bad. but could someone explain why it did this and why my phone isnt powering on and if ill ever be able to use it again??!!?!?! any help would be appreciated.
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I don't know if I can help you But you can enter in bootloader mode and via usb cable connect to your computer? If you can...and have Bepe&Cotulla HARDSPL3... Do a Task29 and when near 100% push volume down to stay in bootloader mode... then... Flash a radio 50 (my sig have a link to my current radio)... and without exit bootloader mode (when near 100% push volume down) Flash a ROM you want in your device...
Sorry... I only try help you... maybe don't have luck or... many luck
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You say. I don't know what happen. I was charging it over night...and when I work up it was off. I turn it on and nothing happens.
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Say this ^^^^
Fidalgos said:
I don't know if I can help you But you can enter in bootloader mode and via usb cable connect to your computer? If you can...and have Bepe&Cotulla HARDSPL3... Do a Task29 and when near 100% push volume down to stay in bootloader mode... then... Flash a radio 50 (my sig have a link to my current radio)... and without exit bootloader mode (when near 100% push volume down) Flash a ROM you want in your device...
Sorry... I only try help you... maybe don't have luck or... many luck
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no. it will not enter bootloader or anything. wont connect via activesync nothing. tried a hard reset, soft reset. every type of reset. nothing works. tried bootloader and.. NOTHING!!!! ah.. but its bugging me out that its trying to install new device driver. i feel like i can fix it... if christ was real i would pray to him!!!!
if you read the dozens of other people that did this, you will see they all say the pc looks for drivers for "qualcomm blah blah blah". don't kid yourself, its gone.
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ok. i flashed the hyperrom ultra v15.0 to my tmobile us hd2 and decided i wanted to flash a new radio.. just to see if i was missing the speed and agility that i hear about so much from others. i started off with a 2.10.50.26 i believe. then flashed the 2.08.50.05 with much slower speed than the original. THEN, i flashed the 2.07.51.22_2 and my phone has not powered up since. it will not go into bootloader and when the update util was done, my laptop said it needed to install a new hardware driver for qualcomm cdma. now i now this is bad. but could someone explain why it did this and why my phone isnt powering on and if ill ever be able to use it again??!!?!?! any help would be appreciated.
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Simple: The .51 radio raped your TMOUS's internals. It will never work again. Play dumb with the warranty people.
haaahha! so i called the warranty people and told them it was dead. asked a few questions, specifically: "what voids the warranty and why would i be charged for any repairs?" i got a number of answers including, "flashing a new os, rom or radio." hahahaha!!! so essentially, im f**ked, right? i mean this is htc, how could they not find out?
so ive read part of three threads where everyone is stating that as long as they cannot get it to go into bootloader, they cannot charge me and theyll repair my phone or send me a new one. though i am worried that i havent read anything about any phones coming back to the peoples having this problem.. i dont have insurance through tmobile so im assuming i cant send it back to them, i am however still under the year manufacturers warranty provided by htc. does it matter who i send it to? and has anyone had experience with this particular problem that can acclaim to or deny me the assurance of me getting my phone back? lol.
Do not lie, as that could bite you in ways you don't want to deal with; as in fraud, etc. Our phones are around $550, a retainer for an Attorney to defend you against criminal charges would be a lot more.
I would go into tmobile, and when you go into store you simply tell them the truth that the phone doesn't work.
Definitely a drag that you bricked the phone. Could have been me, probably will be someday when I get too eager or careless.
Anyhow, let us know what happens.
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so ive read part of three threads where everyone is stating that as long as they cannot get it to go into bootloader, they cannot charge me and theyll repair my phone or send me a new one. though i am worried that i havent read anything about any phones coming back to the peoples having this problem.. i dont have insurance through tmobile so im assuming i cant send it back to them, i am however still under the year manufacturers warranty provided by htc. does it matter who i send it to? and has anyone had experience with this particular problem that can acclaim to or deny me the assurance of me getting my phone back? lol.
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well for a start this is the regular hd2 section, have you read any of the posts in the tmous section? (Well, no, else you would have seen the myrriad warnings about flashing ..51.. radios )
Loads of people have had them repaired after this type of brick, and the only people that haven't have been those that confessed to flashing.
And no, just because it is HTC, they cant see into a broken bootloader. The best they can do is JTAG the phone, and that flashes a new bootloader anyway, wiping out any trace of what you did.