well, i can't figure out quite what has happened.
i was attempting to install hard SPL v7 prior to upgrading to the latest LVSW 0423 ROM.
activesync was connected, i ran RUUWrapper.exe and it dropped the 8525 into bootloader mode as it usually does. for some reason, the RUU app was unable to verify the info on the phone, so upgrade failed and it quit. i reset the 8525, and it booted normally.
well...now USB appears to be dead. forcing the device into bootloader shows
Code:
HERM100
IPL-1.01
HERM100
SPL-1.30.Olipro
Serial
connecting the USB cable does nothing - the bootloader continues to show "Serial". i can reboot and all is fine, radio works...nothing else is wrong except there is no comm via USB. the device charges via USB just fine, whether the 8525 is powered on or off.
nothing in the hermes bricked wiki page matched up, as i have a working OS and a working radio...but i saw in another post that being stuck with "Serial" is evidence of a corrupt bootloader.
ideas? thanks!
Try running the RUU again. If it is still dead then try flashing via SD card.
jamiefiedler said:
well, i can't figure out quite what has happened.
i was attempting to install hard SPL v7 prior to upgrading to the latest LVSW 0423 ROM.
activesync was connected, i ran RUUWrapper.exe and it dropped the 8525 into bootloader mode as it usually does. for some reason, the RUU app was unable to verify the info on the phone, so upgrade failed and it quit. i reset the 8525, and it booted normally.
well...now USB appears to be dead. forcing the device into bootloader shows
Code:
HERM100
IPL-1.01
HERM100
SPL-1.30.Olipro
Serial
connecting the USB cable does nothing - the bootloader continues to show "Serial". i can reboot and all is fine, radio works...nothing else is wrong except there is no comm via USB. the device charges via USB just fine, whether the 8525 is powered on or off.
nothing in the hermes bricked wiki page matched up, as i have a working OS and a working radio...but i saw in another post that being stuck with "Serial" is evidence of a corrupt bootloader.
ideas? thanks!
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change your usb cable
stukes said:
Try running the RUU again. If it is still dead then try flashing via SD card.
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i tried running the RUU again, but since hard SPL v7 (and most of the other RUU updates) seem to require a working activesync connection - which i can't get withoutout USB - i've had no luck.
flashing via SD card is a great idea - didn't even think of that, thank you. i'm not entirely sure which nbh would be appropriate to flash in this situation though - a complete OS/radio/BL package or attempt just the hard SPL nbh file again?
pof said:
change your usb cable
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sorry...should have mentioned i tried another cable. both cables i tried are verified good with another device, and both cables are able to charge the 8525 when connected.
one more thing...if this is in fact a screwed up bootloader, is there anything valuable i can check/monitor/log while attempting to fix this to benefit anyone on the site?
Its up to you. I would try only the Bootloader because it will be superquick. Maybe you should check out the Flashing from SD Card Thread.
stukes said:
Its up to you. I would try only the Bootloader because it will be superquick. Maybe you should check out the Flashing from SD Card Thread.
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ok, i'll give the straight bootloader a shot.
i was gonna follow the sd card flash instructions on the wiki...seemed simple enough. are you thinking of another thread i should check first?
thanks for your help, greatly appreciated. i'll post results of course.
jamiefiedler said:
flashing via SD card is a great idea - didn't even think of that, thank you. i'm not entirely sure which nbh would be appropriate to flash in this situation though - a complete OS/radio/BL package or attempt just the hard SPL nbh file again?
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Flash HardSPL latest version first, otherwise you'll overwrite it because you have an old version which does not have SPL protection.
jamiefiedler said:
sorry...should have mentioned i tried another cable. both cables i tried are verified good with another device, and both cables are able to charge the 8525 when connected.
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Try another usb port on computer then... or better, another computer and another usb cable.
jamiefiedler said:
one more thing...if this is in fact a screwed up bootloader, is there anything valuable i can check/monitor/log while attempting to fix this to benefit anyone on the site?
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either your hermes usb connector is broken (which i doubt cos is able to charge) or you're using a bad cable, a bad usb port on computer, or an operating system without proper usb driver installation. For sure is not a problem of the SPL.
jamiefiedler said:
ok, i'll give the straight bootloader a shot.
i was gonna follow the sd card flash instructions on the wiki...seemed simple enough. are you thinking of another thread i should check first?
thanks for your help, greatly appreciated. i'll post results of course.
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The WIKI is great. Pof gave you a nice sum'd up list.
ok...flashed hard SPL v7 successfully - now have SPL-2.10.Olipro but still no USB - pof was right (surprise surprise), it wasn't the bootloader.
i've now tried this using 3 different usb cables with 2 different USB ports on each of 2 different XP boxes. activesync is unresponsive on both (i've used activesync 4.5 successfully on both in the past) and when watching in bootloader mode then 8525 continues to show "Serial" in all cases.
maybe just one of the data pins of the mini-USB jack is damaged? intact power pins would still allow it to charge even if a data pin was bad.
unless anyone has another suggestion, i'm going to assume it needs to be rolled back to the cingular ROM and sent off to HTC for (attempted) warranty repair...hopefully nobody will notice anything SPL/CID related.
Bummer man. Try yanking the battery out while it is on and let it sit with it out for a while. Then roll back to your original ROM. Sucks if it where a bad pin.
This is a stretch, but anytime I have hardware connection issues (hard drive, flash drives, etc) I put them in the freezer for 10 mins. If it works, at least you know its the hardware.
peezy said:
This is a stretch, but anytime I have hardware connection issues (hard drive, flash drives, etc) I put them in the freezer for 10 mins. If it works, at least you know its the hardware.
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LOL. I saw this somewhere before. Now for the more serious thought effects of extreme cold.
Moisture
Metals Expand and Contract
i popped the back off the 8525 and took a close look at the mini USB jack's pins, expecting to see evidence of a damaged pin (or more than one). well, no damaged pins - but i did find what looked to be a tiny sliver of metal that had worked it's way down (or in from outside) and was lodged between a couple of the pins. i used an x-acto knife to gently scrape between the pins as they traveled down to the main board, making sure not to damage any of the pins. went through all of them just in case, then closed it back up.
USB = working. problem solved.
thanks guys, as always i really appreciate your help.
Outstanding!!!
Very Nice!
btw stukes I put my dead sd card in the freezer last night, and what do you know? It Works! I know its a bit of a black art but I have used it successfully more than once.
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So I recently downloaded the "RUU_Hermes_CINGULAR_WWE_2_1_[1].15.502.3_6275_1.40.30.00_108_Ship" ROM for my 8525, in hopes that it will provide me with a more stable pda/phone enviroment so that I may do the work I need to without having to hard reset every other day or so.
When I try to run the ROM install, I follow all the insturctions but when the update starts to run, it shuts my activesync connection off so the update can't run and throws back an error that it lost connection with the device.
Any Help Here? Thanks
PS: I love the idea of being able to use my 8525 for all my work and play needs, but if this update doesn't help make the device more stable, I will have to sell it for something that doesn't crash this much.
hey..iv got same problem.. i think it maybe cause we are using windows vista (thats the only information i can find about it).. i wanted to update ma rom aswell
I'm using XP Pro.
try running it on another system...if available...
anyone know the solution to this?!
OK, have you installed HardSPL ??
Check my SAFE WM5 upgrade guide, if you follow the procedures in there you should be fine.
Yeah, as far as stability goes most the wm5 roms out of the box aren't going to be the best. with any rom i use sktools to tune it up for performance/stability settings. It does this automatically so you don't have to find various registry keys. So don't think just because you are going to another rom everything will be okay.
Read the wiki, search the threads, you will find answers to all your problems.
As far as you not being able to connect what is your spl number? Also, have you tried hard reseting then connecting or trying another computer. I had the same problem when downgrading a black 2.5 with hard spl 2.1 ( i had to downgrade to send it back to cingular). I ended up just downgrading to the highest version of cingular rom which is branded AT&T. It looked like a pretty good rom but I did not play with it.
he does not need hardSPL(at least i dont think so) he is just runnning an update for another cingular ROM, its still the same CID...try running it on another system, i had this same problem and it worked on another system....
Malik05 said:
he does not need hardSPL(at least i dont think so) he is just runnning an update for another cingular ROM, its still the same CID...try running it on another system, i had this same problem and it worked on another system....
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HardSPL will protect him against a faulty SPL flash if it occurs, a newer SPL is likely to be in the ROM update aswell as a newer radio possibly. Having the same CID doesnt matter because if the radio or SPL flashing procedure messes up it can create a bricked device VERY easily (corrupt SPL or even a corrupted CID/Radio BL). Besides if he already has HardSPL that would explain why the RUU doesnt reconnect when the device is in bootloader mode.
mrvanx said:
HardSPL will protect him against a faulty SPL flash if it occurs, a newer SPL is likely to be in the ROM update aswell as a newer radio possibly. Having the same CID doesnt matter because if the radio or SPL flashing procedure messes up it can create a bricked device VERY easily (corrupt SPL or even a corrupted CID/Radio BL). Besides if he already has HardSPL that would explain why the RUU doesnt reconnect when the device is in bootloader mode.
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point well taken...=)
you mention, since he has already gotten HardSPL, why would that mean his device doesnt reconnect in bootloader?
put it in bootloader first and then run the update...
make sure you disable usb connections with active sync put your phone in bootloader and run the update might as well go with WM6 its a lot more stable than any WM5 rom i have played with .
OS crash
I run ROM install then computer shuts itself now my 8525 show hi true color with red/blue/white i tried to hard reset to solve but till hi true color what should i do?
trgrapsonu said:
I run ROM install then computer shuts itself now my 8525 show hi true color with red/blue/white i tried to hard reset to solve but till hi true color what should i do?
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I've run there updates on my 8525. If the computer is shutting itself down, try another computer. This sounds odd. More of a computer problem then a Tytn Problem.
Malik05 said:
try running it on another system...if available...
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=) have you even tried it?
I'm having a problem connecting ActiveSync over USB. When I first got the phone I was able to use that connection. Then I set up BT ActiveSync. I believe at the time I could use either USB or BT, but it has been a while. BT sync was so much more convenient for me that I haven't used my USB connection except for charging the phone.
Today I tried to get set up to upgrade the ROM, but ActiveSync doesn't seem to work over USB anymore. I turned off BT on the phone. When I plug it into my laptop's USB port the laptop makes a sound indicating it sees the connection. It makes a different sound when I unplug it. I also see the orange charge light come on on the phone. I usually charge the phone this way when I am on the road since I don't carry the wall charger with me.
I think at one point I installed a river that I fdound here to access the phone in bootloader moder. Other than veryfying the phone connected this way, I never did anything with the driver. IT has been so long that I don't remember the details. Could that be affecting the connection for ActiveSync?
I have made sure my firewall is inactive. In Windows XP Device Manager I see an HTC USB Sync device under Windows CE devices. Would it be safe to remove that device?
Any ideas how I can get USB ActiveSync to work again?
Is it totally crazy to try the ROM upgrade over the BT connection?
emuyshondt said:
I'm having a problem connecting ActiveSync over USB. When I first got the phone I was able to use that connection. Then I set up BT ActiveSync. I believe at the time I could use either USB or BT, but it has been a while. BT sync was so much more convenient for me that I haven't used my USB connection except for charging the phone.
Today I tried to get set up to upgrade the ROM, but ActiveSync doesn't seem to work over USB anymore. I turned off BT on the phone. When I plug it into my laptop's USB port the laptop makes a sound indicating it sees the connection. It makes a different sound when I unplug it. I also see the orange charge light come on on the phone. I usually charge the phone this way when I am on the road since I don't carry the wall charger with me.
I think at one point I installed a river that I fdound here to access the phone in bootloader moder. Other than veryfying the phone connected this way, I never did anything with the driver. IT has been so long that I don't remember the details. Could that be affecting the connection for ActiveSync?
I have made sure my firewall is inactive. In Windows XP Device Manager I see an HTC USB Sync device under Windows CE devices. Would it be safe to remove that device?
Any ideas how I can get USB ActiveSync to work again?
Is it totally crazy to try the ROM upgrade over the BT connection?
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have you tried changing the setting on your phone "USB to PC"? I would try this first before digging to deep
slavetolustnyc said:
So I recently downloaded the "RUU_Hermes_CINGULAR_WWE_2_1_[1].15.502.3_6275_1.40.30.00_108_Ship" ROM for my 8525, in hopes that it will provide me with a more stable . . . When I try to run the ROM install, I follow all the insturctions but when the update starts to run, it shuts my activesync connection off so . . .
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You may want to try using the Hard SPL v7 and then install your ROM. I did that and all went smooth as silk - six times now. I have been browsing ROMs to see which one suited my needs an personality, and it has been fun. You can find that on my FTP site at ftp://xda:[email protected]/xda_dlz/
This is a dynamic IP Address from a cable modem so two things are true
1. It is subject to change at any time.
2. It is not as fast as some of these speedy servers
But, I do know where it is.
shogunmark said:
have you tried changing the setting on your phone "USB to PC"? I would try this first before digging to deep
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I had tried this yesterday and checked the Enable advanced network functionality box. Today I unchecked it and suddenly the PC saw a new USB device (HTC Sync USB, I think). It still wouldn't sync automatically so I manually executed /windows/repllog.exe. This time it connected.
Some observations:
- After the connection was established the the name of my 8525 was changed to something different (something like WM_ComputerName1, Where ComputerName is my computer's host name). I changed the name back and was able to re-invoke repllog.exe and sync with the old name.
- If I disconnect the USB cable from the phone and plug it in again ActiveSync doesn't connect until I manually run repllog.exe. It does work when I run the exe on the phone manually.
I went ahead and started the upgrade process after connecting by running repllog.
Executing the RUU file from the HTC site first put SPL 1.11 on the phone and left the phone in bootloader mode (with the tricolor screen). I left the phone with bootloader screen and followed the instructions (although by now ActiveSync had shut down so the part about the AS connection that the installer asked for was not true). The progress bars appeared on both the phone and the PC. It took a few minutes to complete, but the update was successful.
After the upgrade I was able to sync over USB without any problems. I am now syncing my contact from Lotus Notes and setting things up to my liking. Once I got over the USB connection problem everything worked fine!
im a tech for a sprint affiliate store and i have a customers mogul that she got into bootloader...normally what i would do in this situation is disable usb connection in AS...plug in the phone...wait for the drivers to install and use UNI_ExitBootloader.exe to get it out of bootloader...
but for some reason with this phone when i plug it up via usb...it still says serial, instead of switching to USB at the bottom and the program nor the computer can read the device
i have a test mogul here...and when i put it into bootloader...it says(rom 3.45 offical sprint windows 6.1)
"TITA100
SPL-2.07.0000
CPLD-9"
and it unlocks fine
the mogul that wont get out of bootloader says(rom 3.35 official sprint)
"TITA100
SPL-1.04.0000"
and thats it...
im stumped...
Run titan_exitbl instead of UNI. A quick forum search and you'll find it. See if that works for you.
ive tried that as well...the problem is when i connect the phone to the computer its supposed to go from serial mode to usb mode...and it doesnt...so the computer doesnt download the drivers and hence wont connect using either program...
ive scoured many forums for hours and have not been able to find a solution or even a description of my particular problem...
thank you for the suggestion but being im not a noob this doesnt seem like your regular search and find your answer type of problem
justincredible said:
ive tried that as well...the problem is when i connect the phone to the computer its supposed to go from serial mode to usb mode...and it doesnt...so the computer doesnt download the drivers and hence wont connect using either program...
ive scoured many forums for hours and have not been able to find a solution or even a description of my particular problem...
thank you for the suggestion but being im not a noob this doesnt seem like your regular search and find your answer type of problem
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Run MTTY to exit BL.....
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Uni_Stuck_Bootloader
BTW the 2.07 is the re-locker from NO2chem....
and no dice on that solution as well...just reads com1 and com2 under ports where you are supposed to be able to select USB
This is kind of a stupid question to ask....but did you try enabling usb connections in activesync and connecting it?
yes i did...wouldnt connect...but it will connect on my broke mogul and the working mogul i own...
which bugs me because i still dont think its a physical issue(like a broken USB port) because the customer was having problems sending SMS called tech support and they tried some stuff with her over the phone and she got stuck in bootloader...
im assuming this is a lost cause...but i try to repair as many phones as i can instead of just tossing people reconditioned ones...even though my store technically isnt a repair center...
thanx again for everyones suggestions...
and if anyone else has a clue wtf is going on lol...
please feel free to let me know
Flash from SD?
Since it is possibly dead anyway, how about try flashing from SD card as it will exit bootloader and reboot as its last ac ??? Can not hurt any worse;-)
so i need to take the installer file...get the RUU_signed.nbh file extracted from the ROM...rename it to TITAIMG.nbh...format the SD card to fat32...pop that baby in and see what happens?
thanx for that suggestion i totally forgot about that...
well good idea but still no dice...
i installed th ROM via SD card...it worked!...
fixed the SPl and CPLD errors fixed...so i know the ROM got loaded correctly...
the test mogul and the broken one look exactly the same in bootloader...yet i STILL cant get my comp to see the device...its still stuck in serial mode and wont switch to USB mode and i cant get it out of bootloader
edit:
wait...i turned the phone off...plugged it up via usb...turned the phone on and the damn thing worked!
phone booted right up...which is weird because i turned it off and turned it back on after i reinstalled the ROM from the SD card...
thank you guys for all your help...
you just really educated about 30+ TSRs from sprint affiliate stores in illinois, indiana, michigan, iowa etc etc
What does it say in bootloader exactly??? List everything on the screen.... sounds like if it works with the phone plugged in via USB, that you have the wrong bootloader on it.... Does it boot up without being plugged in??
well looks like i gave out the props a lil too soon lol...
im back to square one...installed ROM from SD card...took battery off...put it back in...turned phone on....if its plugged up via USB it'll boot up...add the extra sprint crap on it...as soon i unplug it and restart it goes right back to bootloader...and my comp wont see it as a USB device yet and still it'll see 2 other moguls i have chillen around my house
TITA100
SPL-2.07.0000
CPLD-9
is what it says...
omg this is nuts lol
if i leave the mogul unplugged from the USB cable after reinstalling the ROM from the SD card it just goes right back to bootloader...
it wont take a charge...nix that it took 5 minutes b4 it would accept a charge...
theres definately something wrong with the USB port...has to be...
It sounds like you fixed the software issues but I agree there has to be something up with the USB
the thing that puzzles me is that the usb port doesnt appear to be damaged at all...its still attached to the board...none of the pins are bent or broken...theres no water damage...
im baffled
justincredible said:
well looks like i gave out the props a lil too soon lol...
im back to square one...installed ROM from SD card...took battery off...put it back in...turned phone on....if its plugged up via USB it'll boot up...add the extra sprint crap on it...as soon i unplug it and restart it goes right back to bootloader...and my comp wont see it as a USB device yet and still it'll see 2 other moguls i have chillen around my house
TITA100
SPL-2.07.0000
CPLD-9
is what it says...
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1st, get some compressed air and blow out the USB port, and get a different cable.... try connecting it now - hopefully something was causing a bad connection....
In bootloader screen does it change from serial to USB on the phone screen when you plug it in?? If it does you can get the official Sprint update and run it while the phone is in bootloader, it should finish just fine..... try this and report back....
i tried compressed air...didnt change anything...the phone will charge but wont switch from serial to usb...its not the cable because i have a my working mogul and a test mogul here and both worked perfectly...
the phone will boot up and work if its usb port is in use(charging, syncing) but as soon as i disconnect the cable and restart for any reason it goes right back to bootloader...and it will not boot up at all if the usb port isnt in use...
like i said...this is easily the most retarded seemingly unfixable mogul break down ive ever seen...
its very interesting in a werid kinda dorky way...this mogul is impervious to traditional bootloader fixes lol
So try this, copy NueSPL to the SD card, and then boot the phone and copy it to the phone. Then run the nuespl so it upgrades the spl to nuespl 2.47. You already have the the 3.56 ROM and the 3.42 radio on it right???
Heres the link to nuespl nueSPL-2.47.rar
what radio version is installed?
reading your first post, SPL 1.x should not have been on the broken phone. I wonder if it failed during the 3.X ROM update. Maybe she tripped over the USB cable while flashing.. I've done it.
az ill go ahead and try that when i get the phone back...she didnt feel like waiting another day and i could def understand that...so when the exchange is done im going to bring it back home and play mogul dr...
and dcd she hasnt updated her ROM at all...it was the stock 3.35 rom that came preinstalled when she got it...and no diss to her but i know her and shes not that technically inclined...but ill note the radio and get back to you...
this is an issue resolution that could help a lot of people...
i appreciate all you guy's help and suggestions...
I used the search function but it still isnt working for me. I picked up a locked 8525 from a guy off craigslist. Its stuck on the tri-color bootscreen. He said it worked fine until he took his sim card out and reinserted it today. he said he didnt flash the ROM or anything. I tried the wiki suggested fixes to no avail. I installed active sync and unchecked the allow usb connections and tried to reboot the phone. Nothing. It said it couldnt find my phone. Pulled the battery, reset, nothing. Please help. He gave it to me for $50 because it was stuck.
HERM100
IPL-1.04
HERM100
SPL-2.10.Olipro
mark1914 said:
I used the search function but it still isnt working for me. I picked up a locked 8525 from a guy off craigslist. Its stuck on the tri-color bootscreen. He said it worked fine until he took his sim card out and reinserted it today. he said he didnt flash the ROM or anything. I tried the wiki suggested fixes to no avail. I installed active sync and unchecked the allow usb connections and tried to reboot the phone. Nothing. It said it couldnt find my phone. Pulled the battery, reset, nothing. Please help. He gave it to me for $50 because it was stuck.
HERM100
IPL-1.04
HERM100
SPL-2.10.Olipro
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Downloaded and tried to flash your stock rom? Or via the SD card method, can you get it into the bootloader?
Thank you for replying. I downloaded the WM6 upgrade directly from the HTC site. After I downloaded it to my computer and plugged in the phone to run the program it got to a point then said "ERROR, replace installer" something along those words. It appeared to me that the WM6 version from HTC was outdated or too old to be loaded. Its stuck on the 3 color screen so I assume thats the bootloader screen. I am going to try it again on a different computer at work this morning.
Downloaded the ROM from HTC. Plugged in the phone and got ERROR 260. Unplugged it and changed to another USB and same thing. Its as if the computer doesnt recognize the phone at all.
Nothing. Computer doesnt recognize the phone. Should I try downloading a ROM to a micro SD card then inserting it? Will it load on its own when inserted?
Whats the SPL on the bootloader (tri-colour screen)?
You need to have Hard SPL on your phone before you try to upgrade the os using the sd card method. If its Hard SPLed then the SPL should say SPL : 2.10 olipro.
Cheers...
ultramag69 said:
Whats the SPL on the bootloader (tri-colour screen)?
You need to have Hard SPL on your phone before you try to upgrade the os using the sd card method. If its Hard SPLed then the SPL should say SPL : 2.10 olipro.
Cheers...
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Thats what it says SPL-2.10.Olipro. I tried the sd card method an it would say Update completed then when I did a softreset it jumped back to the bootloader screen. When I try the USB method, the computer cant connect to the device. Its not the computer because my colleague connected his iphone to the same port and it works.
i have just got one of these phones as a update from my poor poor xda2i.. as i wanted wm6
i had a prob with the pc not connecting, i was trying to connect to it using a powered usb hub, u have to use a usb port directly connected to your pc, with no hubs or extenders, this worked 100% for me, and you are using a pc running XP not vista? as the flashing software was only designed for 2k/xp, this was the same with my old xda2i
and pls dont mention *spit* the iphone *spit* in a xda forum!!! LOL
ha ha, I wont mention the "other" phone anymore. How do I tell if its a direct port and not a powered one? Yes, I'm using XP on both my computers.
mark1914 said:
Thats what it says SPL-2.10.Olipro. I tried the sd card method an it would say Update completed then when I did a softreset it jumped back to the bootloader screen. When I try the USB method, the computer cant connect to the device. Its not the computer because my colleague connected his iphone to the same port and it works.
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OK, best thing to try is to see if theres bad blocks on the device.
Leave the device in bootloader, run mtty.exe and connect to USB.
use the command "info 8" to see if there are bad blocks....paste the output here for us.
downloaded mtty.exe and I dont have the USB port in the pulldown menu. Just com1 com4 ports
mrvanx said:
OK, best thing to try is to see if theres bad blocks on the device.
Leave the device in bootloader, run mtty.exe and connect to USB.
use the command "info 8" to see if there are bad blocks....paste the output here for us.
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reloaded mtty.exe and went down to USB. Hit OK and a pop up said USB port can not open
I will try to find a picture of the screen its stuck on
This what my screen looks like. This is how I got the phone as well. It will flash a ROM but when I soft reset it, it goes back to this screen. I followed the WIKI guide for flashing via sdCard was great! I followed the instructions perfectly. I soft reset by pushing in the button on the bottom of the phone and thats it. Nothing else. What am I doing wrong? Also, mtty.exe says it cant open USB port. Do I leave those other settings alone?
mark1914 said:
This what my screen looks like. This is how I got the phone as well. It will flash a ROM but when I soft reset it, it goes back to this screen. I followed the WIKI guide for flashing via sdCard was great! I followed the instructions perfectly. I soft reset by pushing in the button on the bottom of the phone and thats it. Nothing else. What am I doing wrong? Also, mtty.exe says it cant open USB port. Do I leave those other settings alone?
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hmm looks strangely like the image from my guide site??
tbh if you cant access the bootloader with mtty we cant help you....you most likely have bad blocks which is causing it not to boot.
mark1914 said:
reloaded mtty.exe and went down to USB. Hit OK and a pop up said USB port can not open
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I bet you haven't disabled USB port on ActiveSync....
CRCinAU said:
I bet you haven't disabled USB port on ActiveSync....
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Yes I did lol. I think you're right bad blocks and its no good. Could the usb plug on the phone be messed up?
mrvanx said:
hmm looks strangely like the image from my guide site??
tbh if you cant access the bootloader with mtty we cant help you....you most likely have bad blocks which is causing it not to boot.
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ha ha yep got it from your site. Whats the newest version of mtty? I downloaded the first version I think.
if you cannot get your phone working and your willing to sell it i would gladly take it off ya hands, i bought a secondhand m3100 ad it looks like its been thought the wars, i wana ew case and screen, so if ya interested and can take a paypal payment for the right price of cause.
but i hope you get it up and running, as i love this phone
skeeve666 said:
if you cannot get your phone working and your willing to sell it i would gladly take it off ya hands, i bought a secondhand m3100 ad it looks like its been thought the wars, i wana ew case and screen, so if ya interested and can take a paypal payment for the right price of cause.
but i hope you get it up and running, as i love this phone
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I may have to sell it for parts. Its super bricked. I have loaded 3 different ROMS, OS onlys, on sdCards to no avail. I tried 4 different computers and its still stuck in bootloader. I am about to run it over with my car
I've got the Dopod U1000 version of the Athena with the original WM5 Rom. Unfortunately, a few months after I got it, both my laptop and my desktop (both running XP) suddenly stopped recognizing my Athena when I connected via USB. I always get an error message of USB Device Not Recognized. Since then, I've had to connect via bluetooth to ActiveSync. (The Athena does charge when connected via USB, just isn't recognized by the computer or ActiveSync, obviously.)
Now, I'd really love to upgrade to one of the WM6.1 cooked roms, but it seems I need to use Olipro's Athena wrapper first, right? And it seems that I need to be synced with the PC via USB to run the Athena wrapper, right?
Am I stuck with WM5 or is there a way to make this work? If not upgrading the rom, can I upgrade the radio, or does that also require the wrapper process?
Any advice greatly appreciated.
You must synchronize correctly in order to upgrade!
Now you should look for the cause why you can't synchronize? try to go to Settings -> Connections -> USB to PC and see if the choice is checked uncheck it and do a soft rest and try synchronizing
I had that problem with my previous work computer. After several months the usb port I always connected to suddenly didn't recognize the Athena. Switched to another port, after a while it wouldn't recognize it. Etc, Etc. I was on my last port when they upgraded my computer.
Its been several months now and no problems. Have you tried another computer?
Bright Neon,
thanks for the reply. Have tried many times what you suggested with no success, as well several hard resets.
techntrek,
by different usb ports, do you mean the different physical ports to plug in on the computer? If so, I've tried both on my laptop and all six on my desktop. Don't have access to another computer at the moment.
So, there's no way to use the Athena Wrapper without being synched? From my reading, it seems possible to flash a new rom from the minisd. I was hoping something like that was possible for Athena Wrapper, as well. Definitely not, huh?
Yes, I meant the physical usb ports. I have no idea why it was such a problem for me on that older computer.
Sorry, don't have an answer for your question about flashing from the mini-SD.
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..From my reading, it seems possible to flash a new rom from the minisd. I was hoping something like that was possible for Athena Wrapper, as well. Definitely not, huh?
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I've extracted the needed file from the AthenaWrapper. See attached.
1st prepare a mini-SD card FAT32 formatted. Unzip and Copy the extracted file into it root.
Or with existing mini-SD, move all existing files into somewhere and copy this attached file
into the root of the miniSD. You must leave the root solely for this special file.
Place the mini-SD into the Athena and execute BootLoader.
It should instantly detect and automatically run the AthenaWrapper from there.
Ensure your Athena with sufficiant battery power or run direct from adaptor.
I've not use this method on wrapper but works fine installing rom.
I am not responsible if anything goes wrong from here.
So if you are comfortable to try than proceed. Otherwise wait for a better solution.
Pdajoy,
Thank you very, very much for the file and instructions!
Now, I've just got to see if I've got the courage to try it. If anyone else wants to weigh in on whether this is likely to work or end in disaster, I'm all ears.
Evermore, you are welcome. Hope you solve the USB issue.
To those who happen to find this thread and looking for alternative method, please read http://http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=316846
before begin your advanture, its only 11 pages.
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Pdajoy,
Thank you very, very much for the file and instructions!
Now, I've just got to see if I've got the courage to try it. If anyone else wants to weigh in on whether this is likely to work or end in disaster, I'm all ears.
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I think it would be very brave of you to upgrade the SPL this way.
I can't remember anyone attempting to do it this way .
So many people were having problems that cmonex made a wrapper to try and prevent problems.
there are a few processes involved in this so I suggest you pm and ask her directly after reading both the AP4 upgrade posts.
it will not work from SD if you dont have a hardspl currently
Thanks for the reply. I just got my athena back from the shop in an attempt to fix the connection problem, but they were unable to fix it and said I'd need a new motherboard.
So, with no way to connect via usb, I'm stuck with WM5 on this device then, right?
Have you tried other computers. I would try several more makes/models.
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Thanks for the reply. I just got my athena back from the shop in an attempt to fix the connection problem, but they were unable to fix it and said I'd need a new motherboard.
So, with no way to connect via usb, I'm stuck with WM5 on this device then, right?
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there can be a way, actually. run SSPL (a spec version that doesn't have SD removed. current one has it removed, iirc), then use that to read in a ATHEIMG.NBH.
but I do not remember if for Athena SD works in SSPL loaded with jumpspl or only with SSPL loaded from diag (and the latter would require a hardspl already on the device)... drop me a PM and we can test this out.
This night sound obvious, but have you tried to use another USB cable?
Also, the USB port of the Athena is bit loss. You might want to try to use a small piece of paper inserted together with the USB male plug to make the contacts tighter.
Hey,
Thanks for the replies. I have tried several cables and computers. I even tried the suggestion of inserting paper to make the contacts tighter, but the fit is actually quite tight, even without the paper. I'm inclined to accept what the repair shop said - that there is a problem on the motherboard where it connects to the mini-usb. So, short of replacing the motherboard, there doesn't seem to be a mechanical fix to my situation. I thank you all again for your suggestions.
Cmonex, I'll pm you to take you up on your offer to see if there's a chance of upgrading without usb connection.
A couple years ago the connector on my XDA was broken. The service centre wanted something like US$300 to replace the mother board. I decided that it was not worth it and tried to repair myself. I opened the case and found that the "legs" of the connector were broken - I ended up soldering a mini USB port to the mother board and used it for another year before it was stolen!
My point is it is worthwhile to check whether it is just caused by a broken "leg". If so it is quite easy to repair!
kwongwt,
thanks very much. The guy at the repair shop had the intention of replacing the mini usb, but said there was a problem on the motherboard itself where the mini usb would connect. Don't know, maybe he was wrong and you are right.
I just found the service manual online and, yikes!!!, there is no way I can do this myself (even if I had the right tools). Just way too many ways for me to make a mistake in there. I'm impressed that you were able to do so.
So, until I get some more money together, I can't afford to get a second opinion from another repair place, unfortunately. I hope you're right and it can be repaired, but I won't be able to find out for a while.
Thanks again.
update... apparently the hardSPL flash worked from SD. maybe I'll release that SSPL later. but it seems he now needs to reflash the OS for some reason.
Yes, everybody. Cmonex saved me!
I have just successfully flashed michyprima's latest rom (spl 1.2). Going from original WM5 to this rom ought to be quite a leap, I suspect. And all possible because cmonex help me hardspl flash from sd. Who needs a stinking usb connection, anyway?
device not recognized - HTC Fuze
I was having the hardest time with my FUZE being recognized by my machines. I would have to reboot the phone and reboot the machine to get it to work. Even then it would only work once.
The fix was to get the original USB cable and use it.
Hi Guys, just to let you all know that I successfully debranded my AT&T Titan 1, using the gold card method, and flashed it with the European version, here's now my phone spec:
MODEL: Htc Titan X310e
OS version: 7.10.8107.79
Firmware: 1600.2200.20501.401
Bootloader: 2.5.160015.3(137079)
For the gold card method i followed this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=24809318#post24809318 I actually made my Y cable following this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1371073&highlight=goldcard+spl+downgrade+method
The only change I made on the steps provided in the thread above, was to force the phone into USB mode- with the goldcard plugged into the Y cable and Y cable usb into the computer (at this stage phone is not plugged to the Y cable), i booted the phone into spl mode (pressing vol +/- and power) from spl mode restarted phone then during reboot pressed vol - and camera, this boots phone into usb mode, from usb mode plugged phone to the Y cable.
This is the only way I got my at&t phone to work with gold card method.
With this european version I now got Internet Sharing I will play with this version for a week or so before trying out the custom rom i'm hoping that I can now just flash HSPL without having to use gold card now that my at&t titan is debranded. BTW I use this version of european rom: IMG_Eternity_HTC_Europe_2.05.401.01_Radio_Signed_16.23.06.10_16.32.00.23_ETERNITY_RELEASE
This method only applies to Stock Cingular ROM 1.10 and not for those who have already flashed the DFT spl 2.05
Very nice job.
Do you know if this some process will work for the Titan II?
I am using T-Mobile instead of AT&T. But I am not able to receive picture messages or get the 4g. I also can not tether/internet sharing.
I'd like to get the 3 of those items to work.
Again, very nice job!
lol Thankyou..
I made a Y-Cable (somewhat) and stayed in SPL instead of USB Mode (Vol -/Camera) lol no wounder it didn't work Now i wanna go home!!!
If I got Sandisk Flash drives hopefully it works! with your method mentioned or with the cables.
I'll report back.
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Very nice job.
Do you know if this some process will work for the Titan II?
I am using T-Mobile instead of AT&T. But I am not able to receive picture messages or get the 4g. I also can not tether/internet sharing.
I'd like to get the 3 of those items to work.
Again, very nice job!
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I don't think this will work with Titan 2. There is no available stock rom out in the market for this phone yet even att/cingular rom (correct me if I'm wrong) but I'm sure its coming.
Tachi91 said:
lol Thankyou..
I made a Y-Cable (somewhat) and stayed in SPL instead of USB Mode (Vol -/Camera) lol no wounder it didn't work Now i wanna go home!!!
If I got Sandisk Flash drives hopefully it works! with your method mentioned or with the cables.
I'll report back.
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Give this a try. Also if in the first go nothing happens, unplug the usb to the phone then reboot it again into usb mode (vol-/camera). Also after it goes into the first flash, it will reboot to usb mode and stuck to this screen so what I did is again repeat the process, unplug phone and reboot to usb mode, this kickstart the second stage of gold card method and completes in about 20-30 mins I think. I hope this works on ur phone too
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Give this a try. Also if in the first go nothing happens, unplug the usb to the phone then reboot it again into usb mode (vol-/camera). Also after it goes into the first flash, it will reboot to usb mode and stuck to this screen so what I did is again repeat the process, unplug phone and reboot to usb mode, this kickstart the second stage of gold card method and completes in about 20-30 mins I think. I hope this works on ur phone too
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It works
So what was on your gold card, the European rom?
If so, doing it this way will unbrand the titan (enabling the internet share) and lets you flash HSPL w/o original gold card method to flash custom ROMS.
Doing it this way enables internet share after custom ROMs, right?
Might do, but as my OP I am just enjoying this unbranded htc titan with internet sharing and will try flash HSPL and custom at later times.
Well Please let us know. I just got word that my cable will arrive next Wednesday!
Finally relented, I decided to flash my phone with the custom rom from Ultrashot's Dynamic7.... and it went without a hitched
To get here, I tried initially to flashed the DFT spl 2.5 with RUU but it came up with (still) invalid vendor id (i was hoping that this will not happen considering I debranded my titan with EU version rom 2.5)... anyway I end up again using the goldcard method and this went seamlessly (same procedure on my OP). Following this I flashed DFT HSPL and also went without any problem, flashed the custom rom and also end us flashing the radio as it was stuck on the htc boot page. Just checked the internet sharing and this working as well
So from my experience with this htc branded titan, I think the best route to flash custom rom is to first debrand it to european version (using the 2.5 version), then use goldcard method to flash the spl 2.05 and use the DFT wizard to install HSPL.
Cool, I'll be making my cable this evening and giving it a try.
So is this thing Interop unlocked when you are done with this? My main thing is Internet Sharing, but if I can get more than three home brew apps at a time that would be a real bonus.
Thanks for the write up.
Give it a go. As mentioned on previous post, it pays to debrand first the phone to EU version and avoid all the known issues with att titan eg no access to internet sharing.
This will fully unlock your phone which is more privileges than interop unlocked, and enjoy custom rom. I would recommend Ultrashot Dynamic7 rom, this somehow solved previous issue of my titan losing cellular signal and has to resort to switching on/of airplane mode to get the cellular signal back....
Let us know if this works with your phone.
Strike one for me. Built the cable and made the gold card, but never could get the phone to do anything following your steps and the ones in the other thread. So not sure what I'm doing wrong, but everything looks right from here.
On my Y cable I used a micro USB cable and an extension cable I had around, so I didn't need any adapters or gender changers. So unless some pairs get reversed in a gender changer or something like that I think my cable should be fine.
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Strike one for me. Built the cable and made the gold card, but never could get the phone to do anything following your steps and the ones in the other thread. So not sure what I'm doing wrong, but everything looks right from here.
On my Y cable I used a micro USB cable and an extension cable I had around, so I didn't need any adapters or gender changers. So unless some pairs get reversed in a gender changer or something like that I think my cable should be fine.
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I made Mine as well... Used Two Internal USB plugs and joined the White/Green together then joined the Black/Red with an Old Cellphone AC Charger.. Using a 4GB SanDisk FlashDrive works fine... well to flash only cingular roms since i'm Half-Bricked
Well just so I'm clear on the cable, from the phone to the card reader, all wires, data and power are connected straight through. From my computer or other USB power, I connect the red and black power to the red and black that connects to the other two ends, correct?
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Well just so I'm clear on the cable, from the phone to the card reader, all wires, data and power are connected straight through. From my computer or other USB power, I connect the red and black power to the red and black that connects to the other two ends, correct?
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Yes.
Data must travel between the phone and the GoldCard Only.
So the White/Green Cables should be connected together.
The Red/Black Connected to your source of power (PC/AC)
willp2 said:
Strike one for me. Built the cable and made the gold card, but never could get the phone to do anything following your steps and the ones in the other thread. So not sure what I'm doing wrong, but everything looks right from here.
On my Y cable I used a micro USB cable and an extension cable I had around, so I didn't need any adapters or gender changers. So unless some pairs get reversed in a gender changer or something like that I think my cable should be fine.
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Does your card reader led light switched on when you plugged your phone while in usb mode (vol-/camera after reboot from spl mode)? One way of checking that Y cable has good connection is that when you plugged the phone to either female plug of y cable that is connected to power source the phone will show that it is charging.
For my Y cable, i used 2 USB type A male/female connectors so I didn't need a gender changer as well. Check that you have good connection/soldering and that it is well insulated (mine i used electrical tape) and to be honest this is my first go with soldering and took me few times to get this y cable right mind you I did order one from ebay as a back up but hasn't arrive until now I used a multi card reader and a 2gb microsd for my goldcard (see screenshots).
OK, looks like I had the file named incorrectly on the memory card. Now it gets to "loading..." for a few minutes and then drops to the SPL screen. Hmm.
Radio problem
habnzrot said:
Hi Guys, just to let you all know that I successfully debranded my AT&T Titan 1, using the gold card method, and flashed it with the European version, here's now my phone spec:
MODEL: Htc Titan X310e
OS version: 7.10.8107.79
Firmware: 1600.2200.20501.401
Bootloader: 2.5.160015.3(137079)
For the gold card method i followed this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=24809318#post24809318 I actually made my Y cable following this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1371073&highlight=goldcard+spl+downgrade+method
The only change I made on the steps provided in the thread above, was to force the phone into USB mode- with the goldcard plugged into the Y cable and Y cable usb into the computer (at this stage phone is not plugged to the Y cable), i booted the phone into spl mode (pressing vol +/- and power) from spl mode restarted phone then during reboot pressed vol - and camera, this boots phone into usb mode, from usb mode plugged phone to the Y cable.
This is the only way I got my at&t phone to work with gold card method.
With this european version I now got Internet Sharing I will play with this version for a week or so before trying out the custom rom i'm hoping that I can now just flash HSPL without having to use gold card now that my at&t titan is debranded. BTW I use this version of european rom: IMG_Eternity_HTC_Europe_2.05.401.01_Radio_Signed_16.23.06.10_16.32.00.23_ETERNITY_RELEASE
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Hi, have you tried to install custom rom? I debranded mine, but only can flash roms with radio 16, but never those with radio 17. Tried to flashed it via cable, an GC, no luck.
Anyone else with this problem?
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Strike one for me. Built the cable and made the gold card, but never could get the phone to do anything following your steps and the ones in the other thread. So not sure what I'm doing wrong, but everything looks right from here.
On my Y cable I used a micro USB cable and an extension cable I had around, so I didn't need any adapters or gender changers. So unless some pairs get reversed in a gender changer or something like that I think my cable should be fine.
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No pairs are reversed. You put together both energy cables, and only data from card reader and cellphone.
Have in mind the flash takes like 3-5 minutes to start! I tell you this because at first I thought the cable was bad, but it just takes time.
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OK, looks like I had the file named incorrectly on the memory card. Now it gets to "loading..." for a few minutes and then drops to the SPL screen. Hmm.
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You're nearly there, that happened to me too. What I did, when it revert back to spl mode unplug your phone, reboot phone then when it restart hold vol - / camera this will boot phone into usb mode then plug phone back. Mine goes straight into the flash mode. I assumed that you are currently flashing the European rom with goldcard? goodluck.