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Please dont tell me to read the other threads on this issue. Your better off skipping this topic and moving on to the next. I preffer this to go untouched with no replies than to have smart ass comments. Ive been reading pages and pages on how to do this for weeks with no luck. Theres about a few dozen options and with all the suggestions I have no idea where to start, nor what programs to download first, understand what these terms mean, etc. Maybe this isnt my cup of tea and I shouldnt even be attempting this but thats neither here nor there cause the fact of the matter is I screwed things up. Now Im looking for some help from the community.
Its getting real expensive and I need a serious expert who has patience and is very thurough. This is my second unit and I still have the 1st one that is still bricked as well. This is the situation for both. When I go to setting>system>device info, there was no radio version, no protocol version, no IMEI, and the call duration info was zero. I was able to use both units for thier PDA functions but not the phone prtion. I was attempting to SIM unlock and SuperCid em both. Now they are both stuck in bootloader. Im not sure what went wrong but I have done 3 other 8525's with success also updated roms and reverted back and no problems. I just cant seem to get the bricking undone. Now Ive done tutorials on housing swaps, step by step and provided pics as well. You know what, people still ask how to do it. Its a fact guys. some people just need a little more direction than others. What Im trying to say is Im looking for help not criticism, Im a grown man and the last thing I need is for some young punk to flame me,or telling me to read cause Its already been done. I can easily buy another phone but Im willing to learn how to get out of this bricking crap. So its back to reading. TIA
Heres How You Do It
I know how you feel because last night i bricked my 8525 cingular, Okay, If You Can Start Up Your DEvice All You Have to do is reset it to te factory condition and that would help you, unfortunatley all of your data would be lost, but its better than a bricked expensive phone. Oh, but your stuck in bootlaoder, well i have good news for you your not bricked your just stuck, go to the att website and a download and update and the update should recogize your phone even though the computer dosent, after that you have a brand new updated 8525 and that should get you out of bootloader.
ivan345 said:
I know how you feel because last night i bricked my 8525 cingular, Okay, If You Can Start Up Your DEvice All You Have to do is reset it to te factory condition and that would help you, unfortunatley all of your data would be lost, but its better than a bricked expensive phone. Oh, but your stuck in bootlaoder, well i have good news for you your not bricked your just stuck, go to the att website and a download and update and the update should recogize your phone even though the computer dosent, after that you have a brand new updated 8525 and that should get you out of bootloader.
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Really??? This seems too easy. I'll try anything at this point. So you say its not bricked,just stuck in bootloader? So there is hope? Thats def bice to hear. I'll give it a shot. Thanks
LOL. Tried and and same problem. It sounded too good to be true. Thanks for the tip though
I'm not trying to be smart (believe me, I'm not equipped to do that!) just trying to help determine the exact state so that someone may be better able to help.
You say the phone's are stuck in bootloader, but that you're able to look at the device info on them, and use them for their PDA side. I always thought stuck in bootloader meant that when you switched it on, it came up with the multi-coloured bars but got no further (as if you'd reset it while holding the power and side OK button). Do you mean that the phone's work as normal but have no PHONE side of things, or can you get no further than the bootloader screen when trying to start them up?
Like I said, not trying to split hais just trying to get the exact symptoms for someone cleverer than me to help.
OK by the sounds of it you are definatly NOT stuck in bootloader.
firstly can you please answer the following questions from the wiki:
1. Which is your SPL version?
Put your hermes in bootloader mode (side ok + power button + softreset), the SPL version appears in yellow letters on the upper side
2. Which is your radio bootloader (HTC_BOOT) version?
If your radio version is <=1.27 your HTC_BOOT is 0106 or 0107, the only exception is Softbank X01HT 1.14 radio which has HTC_BOOT 0108
If your radio version is >= 1.30 your HTC_BOOT is 0108
If you don't know which is HTC_BOOT, but you have bootloader 1.01 MFG, 1.10.Oli or 1.04 you can access to the radio bootloader using the command 'rtask a', then type 'rversion' and hit enter (you won't see anything in the screen when you type rversion, because the radio bootloader has no echo, this is normal).
3. Is your device able to boot Windows Mobile OS?
This one is easy: If can you see your today screen and use your phone as a PDA means you can boot OS. If you only see the splash screen, bootloader screen (tri-color) or windows mobile splash screen you can't boot OS.
4. Do you see "No GSM" message in red letters on the first splash screen?
Reset your hermes, you will see some numbers and letters appear in red and disappear after a few seconds... your radio version is there, but if your radio is corrupted for some reason, you will see 'No GSM'.
5. Does your OS rom have KITL enabled?
Hold COMM MANAGER and POWER buttons together and reset with stylus, if you see the message "Select KITL Transport" your OS rom has KITL enabled, otherwise not.
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Please post the answers back here when you are done.
Stu has an excellent point. Need to know the exact state of the 8525. Exactly what you have done to it....
Example: I used Pof's free HTC SIM unlock and SuperCid program. It appeared to complete successfully. However, now when I start the 8525 up it automatically goes into the tri-color boot loader screen. I had not applied anything else to the 8525 prior to trying to unlock it.
Also, there is a sticky for dead hermes. I bricked mine as well, and was able to get passed it. I posted in the sticky. If you post in that sticky, then someone else may benefit from what you find out. Keeps everything in one place
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Stu has an excellent point. Need to know the exact state of the 8525. Exactly what you have done to it....
Example: I used Pof's free HTC SIM unlock and SuperCid program. It appeared to complete successfully. However, now when I start the 8525 up it automatically goes into the tri-color boot loader screen. I had not applied anything else to the 8525 prior to trying to unlock it.
Also, there is a sticky for dead hermes. I bricked mine as well, and was able to get passed it. I posted in the sticky. If you post in that sticky, then someone else may benefit from what you find out. Keeps everything in one place
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Yeah, but, if you used V3a to unlock it, you actually got Oli's BL as part of the deal--hence why you can unbrick it easily!
WELP no smartass comments HUH? Well if you ****ed up 2 phones like this you really must be doing something wrong there buddy. your phone is not stuck in bootloader if you can see the device info thats for damn sure. first thing load SPLV7 on your phone then flash a a complete ROM including radio and OS and then you should be all fixed and if that dont work there is a WHOLE thread just for BRICKED phones so go read like you said you whrere doing.... To me its sounds like you dont have a clue what your doing since you have done this to 2 phones and if you did have a clue your first thing would have been to load SPLv7
so go enjoy your not really bricked bricks
and if i remember right your one of the fools that was making fun af elf because he charge people like you to fix phones over at hofo... so take your problem over there or call elf for some one on one and eat some ****....
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I gotta give you a lot of credit for that post. Me and a few other members had a bet that it would take less than an hour before the first idiot would surface, Thanks LOL. Who the hell is elf, and I would like to see the post that I had made making fun of anybody. If your gonna try to put someone on blast, back it up. Its assholes like you that a community can do without. Your a true idiot man. No1 needs you around here with that type of attitude. I dont blame you though, I blame your parents for having you. Your mom should have flushed the toilet when she had you then we wouldnt have a piece of **** like you in this world, shame on her. They should be ashamed of themselves for they way you have turned out.
I was able to do all the PDA functions prior to gettting my phones stuck in bootloader. That is were I am now. I got myself stuck in bootloader while trying to load HardSPLv7. I had not done any type of mods or upgrades prior to doing this.
Elf, I want you and that moron to post topics if me bashing you, I cant imagine me doing that. I am 30+ years of age, 3 children and a beautiful wife. I dont have a lot of time, nor do I have the time or care to flame other on these forums. I know that I look to people here and other forums more than they will need me. So please back up that what you are saying and I make sure that I make it an effort to put in my sig that I am an idiot and that you are god. If this it was gets you thru the day, so be it. Just back them comments up. Its a bad tag to put on someone.
My phone reads on tri color screen
Herm100
IPL-1.01
HERM1
SPL-1.40. Olipro
I can do anything other than see this bootloader screen.
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Instead of wasting your time replying to posts which are off topic why dont you answer the question posed in my reply...then we can get your two Hermes devices back to working order. Otherwise a mod will inevitably lock this thread and you will be back to square one.??
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Instead of wasting your time replying to posts which are off topic why dont you answer the question posed in my reply...then we can get your two Hermes devices back to working order. Otherwise a mod will inevitably lock this thread and you will be back to square one.??
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When I recieved the phone there was no radio version displayed nor was there a protocol version. I also noticed that there was no IMEI that was displyed under the device info. While I was attempting to load the HardSPLv7, that is when I got stuck.
Bro I need serious step by step instructions on this. I've taken all that had been posted about this stuff and a have a pile of info about it. Theres not a whole lot I can do in the boot mode si Im trying to make sure Im doing the steps properly. The info I have given is based on the 8525, I'll work on the TYTN after. Thanks
My appologies.. I just checked HoFo.. You were not one of the idiots on there, as far as I can tell..
Sorry.
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Appology accepted. Im not worried about man. I got other things to worry about.
Again can you PLEASE answer the questions in my reply?? I need an answer to all FIVE of them, a simple task which will give us the correct status of your device, even if it seems stupid...do it. (the questions im referencing to)
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Again can you PLEASE answer the questions in my reply?? I need an answer to all FIVE of them, a simple task which will give us the correct status of your device, even if it seems stupid...do it. (the questions im referencing to)
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1.SPL-1.40 Olipro
2.Dont know. Is there a way to check this now that I am in boot mode.
3.NO.
4.NO
5.Not sure. How can I find this out in the stage Im in
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1.SPL-1.40 Olipro
2.Dont know. Is there a way to check this now that I am in boot mode.
3.NO.
4.NO
5.Not sure. How can I find this out in the stage Im in
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OK, right you need to flash ANY ROm that contains an OS only, DO NOT try flashing a ROM which has a radio or SPL etc...
Follow my WM5 Downgrade Guide, this will take you through the steps necessary, select the relevant ROMs by HTC and Cingular (found in the wiki).
If that works as desired then update to HArdSPL v7 for both devices then flash a new radio.
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Instead of wasting your time replying to posts which are off topic why dont you answer the question posed in my reply...then we can get your two Hermes devices back to working order. Otherwise a mod will inevitably lock this thread and you will be back to square one.??
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wont lock the thread since the guy needs help... but instead i will play janitor and clean it up... since some people will never learn to play nice...
More to the point, have you managed to fix them using the procedure i described?
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More to the point, have you managed to fix them using the procedure i described?
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No sir, Ive got two computers working on this right now. One to look at replies and the other to do the update. I had to get a bite to eat so Im back at it. Im trying to connect to sync but not working. Im reading up again on this Sd card deal and mtty so Im trying.
Yes ofcourse i forgot, once you have rebuilt the nbh to make an OS only update (OS,Ext ROM and the 2 splashes) you cant update as normal because there is no activesync connection...the sd card technique is what you need to do. After the device can get into OS and connect over activesync you can do the rest (HardSPL and Radio).
ok mrvanx, after using device monitor I fianlly got a connection and tried downloading a rom. Process goes thru and at 12% it stops and gives me the 262 error message. I do wat it suggest when getting the message with sof reset and try again, still same error.
flash from a damn SDcard and be done with this **** man... your wasting time half assing around... flash an OS.nb from your card and then do all that was told to you from above... this is the only way you will get your hermes working again
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OK by the sounds of it you are definatly NOT stuck in bootloader.
firstly can you please answer the following questions from the wiki:
Please post the answers back here when you are done.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=9664136#post9664136
Sir please help me
1 HERM100
IPL-1.01
HERM100
SPL-1.40.Olipro
2 - rite now dont show while OS is on
3 yes OS loads ok
4 (yes) No GSM shows while boot
m 05
s 04 No GSM
B 06 D 3.57
5 I can't find as comm manager button confused
Ive just downloaded udk_6.1 Lizard rom, i go through the initial process, everything is connected properly ans when i run the ROM update utility the bootloader works but when i accept the connection on my phone it disconnects from active sync on my pc and the rest of the upgrade obviously wont work as it doesn't think that the phone is connected! Ive hard reset the phone back to Black 2.5 (my last successful flash) but it still wont update, it gets to the bootloader screen as follows:
HERM300
IPL-SSPL by Des
HERM300
SPL-1.07 .ds
Anyone got any idea of the problem?
Andy
While in BOOTLOADER MODE it is normal for the phone to be disconnected from the ActiveSync!
Do you use SSPL for flashing? Your IPL / SPL versions tell me that you did not Hard_SPL your phone!
What I asume, is, that your RomUpdateUtility.exe is not compatible to your phone!
I have this issue with T-Mobile and Orange ROMs. The only way for me to flash them, is, to extract the nbh file and flash it either with CustomRUU or with the UPDATE UTILITY from my shipped ROM.
Hope that helps?
Hi, thanks for the quick reply!
I'm very new to all this so am a bit uncertain how to use the update utilities. Ill have a good trawl around the board and try and educate myself a little more.
Thanks again
Andy
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Hi, thanks for the quick reply!
I'm very new to all this so am a bit uncertain how to use the update utilities. Ill have a good trawl around the board and try and educate myself a little more.
Thanks again
Andy
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Education is good
The most important part of Junner2003's answer was the comment about you not having HARD SPL. If you're going to start flashing ROMs, particularly the radio rom, you run a (small) risk of turning your phone into a brick. Hard SPL can in most cases help you recover from this. The latest available release from Olipro is Hard-SPL-2.10 (Hard-SPL-V7) which you can get here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=296722.
Also, if you start hunting for stuff on the XDA-developers site, the search function sucks. Try using google as set up in Mike Channons sticky here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=298893.
Lastly, if you've come direct to these forums without going through the WIKI page, that's a good place to start finding out what you can/can't do and what support is available... http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Hermes
EDIT: Forgot to mention the upgrade Bible - Mrvanx's guide. I'm not sure if it's been updated recently, but it's good for almost anything you need to do. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=299462
WOW, thanks for the links!
Just about to get a coffee for several hours of reading ahead!
Once again, thanks for the warm welcome here.
Andy
Even after reading this forum all nite, I am still soooo confused, maybe too much new info in m'head. At any rate, I am trying to UG from WM5 to WM6 and am having a heck of a rough time. Everything goes good until it actually starts the process, at which time I get the 260 Connection Error. After plenty of research on here, I decided to try to "flash" the ROM, to no avail, for nothing happened. I can get into bootloader mode but then nothing else happens (perhaps I'm not waiting long enough? How long should I wait?) and I never see the screen pictured here - http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_SDCardFlashing - so I just give up and reset. I am currently downloading the HardSPL utility so I can try flashing after the IPL and SPL ugrades. But I do have some questions still --
(1) Does my phone need to be "unlocked" to do this and how can I tell if it is or isn't?
(2) Can I just use the ROM that I downloaded from the HTC site or must I use one found somewhere on this forum?
Any other advice? All will be appreciated. Thanx.
Oh, yeah -- I'm working with a Cingular 8525 Hermes [HERM100 model number] Pocket PC. It's specs are:
ROM version 2.15.502.3
ROM date 04/09/07
Radio version 1.40.30.00
IPL 1.03
SPL 1.11
Have you read this http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_UpgradeForBeginners ?
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Yes, I have, plus all the links branched from there. After about 3 hours of reading, I felt ready to try flashing, but it didn't work. The HardSPL utility is done downloading, so when I get home I'll try that and hope I finally get a successful upgrade. If not, I'll be back to the forums. Thanx!
What ROM are you upgrading to? The official AT&T ROM? I'd try that first if you're not already.
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Even after reading this forum all nite, I am still soooo confused, maybe too much new info in m'head. At any rate, I am trying to UG from WM5 to WM6 and am having a heck of a rough time. Everything goes good until it actually starts the process, at which time I get the 260 Connection Error. After plenty of research on here, I decided to try to "flash" the ROM, to no avail, for nothing happened. I can get into bootloader mode but then nothing else happens (perhaps I'm not waiting long enough? How long should I wait?) and I never see the screen pictured here - http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_SDCardFlashing - so I just give up and reset. I am currently downloading the HardSPL utility so I can try flashing after the IPL and SPL ugrades. But I do have some questions still --
(1) Does my phone need to be "unlocked" to do this and how can I tell if it is or isn't?
(2) Can I just use the ROM that I downloaded from the HTC site or must I use one found somewhere on this forum?
Any other advice? All will be appreciated. Thanx.
Oh, yeah -- I'm working with a Cingular 8525 Hermes [HERM100 model number] Pocket PC. It's specs are:
ROM version 2.15.502.3
ROM date 04/09/07
Radio version 1.40.30.00
IPL 1.03
SPL 1.11
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What operating system are you using? If its Vista you MUST use Mr. Vanx's guide to get past the connection problem. The standard Vista HTC driver is wrong when we want to flash rom's in bootloader mode and vista WMDC. Get it here:
MR VANX's VISTA GUIDE
Hard SPL is great after that. Just remember you warranty may be void if you have to go to AT&T for repairs and the see that bootloader. You shouldn't need Hard SPL to flash the standard AT&T rom or VP3G's or other AT&T based ROM's, but better safe than sorry.
Be sure to close EVERYTHING in the taskbar! Don't start any programs, allow any updates to mess around with the computer while its flashing..In fact, I disable my AV program and internet connection totally when I flash ROMS. (My Kaspersky started updating and virus scanning during my 1st flash..sucker froze and freaked me out!)
Once I dealt with unlocking and connection issues, I flashed the standard AT&T ROM, performed a hard reset immediately and then connected via WMDC and synced everything. I tested it for a few hours then decided to flash VP3G's excellent AT&T based ROM v3.62.3..I like to do a hard reset immediately after flashing to burn everything in...I've seen others in this forum do the same.
Another ROM I've found fun is S64's(Starbase64) 3.62 WWE v9 - It's not AT&T based but you can get WPBEAR's Config files to set your Medianet and proxy. There are other At&T settings CABs out there like Dr. Puttinghams. S64 ROM also includes Advanced Config 1.1 to set your keyboard to Cingular mapping.
Good Luck!
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My desktop PC is running Windows XP...
After trying the HardSPL method - which upgraded perfectly - I continue to have the above-mentioned problems; 260 Connection Error and inability to move beyond the tri-color screen to the one pictured on the page which instructs how to flash via SD card.
Thanx for the list of ROMs I can try. For the record, I have been using the "official" one I downloaded from the HTC website. *sigh* I guess I'll next look for the tutorial I saw somewhere around here on how to upgrade from the tricolor screen [or something like that, I think it was], as well as your advice.
But I do have another question -- how do I format the SD card? The tutorial I used on flashing with it mentioned formatting so I'll retry it with the card newly formatted (I didn't because it said I could just delete everything off the card OR format it).
I'll let you know how it goes...
Ahhh...Sorry for your troubles...I didn't have luck catching an upgrade from the SD Card method on my 8525 either.
I know it seems a bit much but, is your active sync working correctly? Upgraded to 4.5 and all that? Can you sync and Backup all your data then try uninstal, reboot, re-installing AS?
I wonder what would happen if one tried Mr Vanx's instructions on a Win XP box?
I also had heard somewhere about messing around with when Active sync is started. Also as a last ditch, maybe try this from the HTC Wiki:
http://www.htcwiki.com/thread/667087/ActiveSync+and+Rom+8525?t=anon
Good luck
BDsBabyGirl said:
My desktop PC is running Windows XP...
After trying the HardSPL method - which upgraded perfectly - I continue to have the above-mentioned problems; 260 Connection Error and inability to move beyond the tri-color screen to the one pictured on the page which instructs how to flash via SD card.
Thanx for the list of ROMs I can try. For the record, I have been using the "official" one I downloaded from the HTC website. *sigh* I guess I'll next look for the tutorial I saw somewhere around here on how to upgrade from the tricolor screen [or something like that, I think it was], as well as your advice.
But I do have another question -- how do I format the SD card? The tutorial I used on flashing with it mentioned formatting so I'll retry it with the card newly formatted (I didn't because it said I could just delete everything off the card OR format it).
I'll let you know how it goes...
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Just another tip... Try a different usb port. I've found that sometimes certain usb ports behave differently during the upgrade procedures. So, far I've upgraded three 8525's on Win XP and only one gave me the problem you've described and connecting the sync cable in another port corrected the problem.
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...I also had heard somewhere about messing around with when Active sync is started. Also as a last ditch, maybe try this from the HTC Wiki:
http://www.htcwiki.com/thread/667087/ActiveSync+and+Rom+8525?t=anon
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OMG! SHIHAYADREAMER! That was JUST the TICKET! I read it and realized that I'd been doing it right all along, I just didn't realize I was! THIS time, I hooked up my cable at the very beginning and let it go. Before, I'd started waiting to hook it up until the instructions asked if I had because I'd gotten to the tricolored screen (the bootloader?) the 1st time and figured I did something wrong. Thanx to that forum, I returned to what I did the very first time and got victory! *falls down sobbing and weeping with joy* I wasted 25 hours because of fear! OMG! *dances around, singing* I've got WM6! I've got WM6!
I know that being reminded to turn off my firewall and stop all the programs in the taskbar played a big role, as well. But I just give a big "Thanx" (on Thanksgiving! *LOL*) to everyone who answered this board because you all helped me so very very much.
Hi to everybody, I have a great problem.
I was upgrading my Tytn to WM6 Black (Dymond) when at about 30% an error occurred: it said that the cable wasn't connected. My device only showes the three color screen, the PC doesn't recognize it any more and I don't know how to solve this problem. Is possible to get my hermes back to the normal status?
Please help me.
Thak you all,
Giangi.
Please read the WIKI and provide more info, SPL?
These are my info:
I tried to upgrade (that wasn't my first upgrade) my Tytn to WM6 black, and I don't know why or how, it stopped upgrading (maybe at 30%...i don't remember because of little panic). I tried to upgrade again but it always stopeed. Then I disconnected the device and it has never booted any more. Now I can only see a screen with 4 colored strips. That's all.
No hard reset, no soft reset. Nothing seems to work.
Please, is there abybody could help me?
I can only put my Tytn in bootloader mode. As Windows XP doesn't recognize it any more, is possible to upgrade the device in that mode? I would try to do it.
Please give me a hand...
Read this to unbrick
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_Unbrick
Answer questions 1 to five then look at the table for the proper solution.
I'm not sure if this would work out, but you can also give this one a try. See problem number 4
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_UpgradeProblems
Good Luck
Thank you, I'll try to take a look later.
Let's hope for the best...
Hi again, I have a question: is possible to flash the ROM in bootloader mode?
for example using mtty?
I can't find any useful info for me...
dude, all the info you need is in the links that pedro2k gave
People please refer to the relevant threads on this topic, all the info required is already available.
HEY ALL,
I AM A FAIRLY EXPERIENCED USER WITH WM DEVICES, IN FACT I HAVE PUT TOGETHER SOME DECENT ROMS FOR THE KAISER, BUT I AM PRETTY NEW TO THE ADVANTAGE AS I JUST PICKED ONE UP LAST WEEK. PLEASE EXCUSE MY IGNORANCE IN THIS ISSUE, AS IT SEEMS JUST AN ISSUE OF ME MAKING AN EXTREMELY "ROOKIE" MISTAKE.
I HAVE READ, READ, READ AND READ SOME MORE, AS ONE SHOULD ALWAYS DO, BUT SOME HOW I GOT MYSELF INTO SOME TROUBLE WHILE RUNNING THE ATHENA UNLOCKER ON MY ADVANTAGE X7501... BIG TROUBLE...
I RAN THE UNLOCKER, AND FELT PRETTY COMFORTABLE WITH THE PROCESS, BUT WHILE THE UNLOCKER WAS RUNNING, AFTER IT ALLOOWED ME TO BACK UP MY SPL, IT WAS RUNNING SCRIPTS AS USUAL, AND I RECIVED AN UNUSUAL WINDOWS ERROR WITH THE UNLOCKER APP (PROGRAMS HAS EXPERIENCED ABNORMAL ACTIVITY OR SOMETHING TO THAT EFFECT...) THEN GAVE ME THE OPTION TO CONTINUE OR QUIT, SO I CHOSE CONTINUE, BUT THE DEVICE DID NOTHING MORE AND THE UNLOCKER BASICALLY FROZE. THE PC WAS "OK", AS FAR AS NOT BEING FROZE UP, BUT THE UNLOCKER WOULD NOT MOVE ANOTHER STEP! AFTER WAITING NEARLY AN HOUR, I DECIDED TO DISCONNECT (BAD IDEA, I SHOULD HAVE KNOWN BETTER, I REALIZE THIS PROBLEM IS BY ALL MEANS MY OWN FAULT!).
AFTER DISCNNECT, DEVICE APPEARED FINE UNTIL FIRST SOFT RESET, THEN I GOT NO BOOT, NO BOOTLOADER WITH ANY KEY COMBINATION, AND NOTHING ELSE. I CAN GET DEVICE TO WHAT WOULD NORMALLY BE THE STANDARD BL SCREEN, BUT NO OLIPRO SPL, NO WRITING AT ALL, AND NO SERIAL OR USB WHEN CONNECTED OR DISCONNECTED FROM PC! ALL I HAVE IS TRI-COLOR SCREEN WITH NO WRITING, REGARDLESS OF KEY/RESET COMBINATIONS THAT I HAVE TRIED, WHICH I BELIEVE ARE ALL OF THEM!
I AM OUT OF OPTIONS, I WAS HOPING SOME OF MY FELLOW XDA FOLKS COULD HELP AN "IDIOT" IN NEED! I WOULD CERTAINLY APPRECIATE IT !
ALSO I WOULD GLADLY PROVIDE ANY MORE INFO IF NEEDED FOR FURHTER ADVICE. THANKS IN ADVANCE.
Hey All,
Thanks For All Of Your Helpful Advice, Unfortunately, I Think Im In A Little Deeper Than That
Bairda(Alex), I Looked At Your Screen Shots From Your Post, And Yea!!! That Is Exactly What My Device Looks Like!!! I Can Load The Bootloader, But Tricolor Only!!!! No Letters/ Version Numbers/ Anything!!!! I Really Dont Know What Else To Try, As I Know How To Flash A Rom From The Storage Card, But I Cannot Even Get The Bootloader To Load Properly!!! Any Advice Alex- Or Anyone Else?
Again, Got Disconnected After Having Issue With 3 Step Unlocker, After 1st Soft Reset, No Boot/ No Os/ Not Bootloader Screen With Ver Numbers And Spl/.... Only Tricolor With No Writing!!! I Have Attatched Alex's Thumbnails, As It Is Exactly What Mine Is Doing... (hope Thats Ok Bairda (Alex!))
Also, Just Note That I Am Running Vista Home Premium, With All The Latest Updates/service Packs...
Please See Pics And I Would Appreciate A Minute Of Anyones Time To Get This Thing Going... Also, I Would Of Course Be Willing To Make A Donation Of What Ever I Can Scrounge Up For Some Assistance On This Issue!
Thanks So Much!!!
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OK EVERYONE, MY PROBLEM IS RESOLVED, BUT I WANTED TO POST EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED FOR EVERYONE TO SEE, ESPECIALLY FOR NEW FOLKS... AFTER HAVING THE ISSUES ABOVE, I CONSULTED WITH MANY PEOPLE TO TRY MANY, MANY METHODS OF RECOVERING THE DEVICE. ALL ATTEMPTS TO RECOVER WERE UNSUCCESSFUL, AS IT APPEARS THAT I USED THE INCORRECT UNLOCKER!!!
BASICALLY, THE UNLOCKER THAT I USED IS THE OLDER ONE, THAT SHOULD NEVER BE USED ANYMORE! AFTER THE SPL WAS ERASED, THE PROCESS ENCOUNTERED AN ERROR BEFORE IT WAS ABLE TO RE-FLASH THE NEW SPL. I HAPPENED TO CALL HTC AS A LAST RESORT, AN ONLY TOLD THEM THAT MY PHONE WOULD NOT TURN ON. I THEN SENT IT TO THEM, AND THEY TOLD ME THAT EVEN THOUGH I PURCHASED THE DEVICE USED, IT IS STILL UNDER WARRANTY DURING THE APPLICABLE DATES (WHICH IS 15 MONTHS FROM DATE OF MFG).
SO IN SHORT, THEY REPLACED MY MOTHERBOARD, AS THEY FLASH MEMORY CHIP WAS UNABLE TO BE RE-FLASHED. LUCKLIY, I WAS ABLE TO GET MY DEVICE REPLACED AT NO COST, BUT THIS MISTAKE COULD COST SOMEONE A $1000 DEVICE!!!
AS A RECAP, I AM LISTING A LINK TO THE GOOD ADVANTAGE X7501 UNLOCKER, AND A LINK TO THE OLD ONE, WHICH SHOULD NOT BE USED FOR THE X7501, IN MY EXPERIENCE... IT WAS ALSO CONFIRMED BY A REPUTABLE SENIOR MEMBER THAT THE OLD/BAD UNLOCKER SHOULD NOT BE USED AS WELL.
-GOOD/SAFE X7501 UNLOCKER: (FILE CALLED ATHENAWRAPPER, IN FIRST POST): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=316846
-BAD/OLD X7501 UNLOCKER, READ 1ST POST: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=315831
HOPE THIS INFORMATION IS USEFUL FOR EVERYONE! IF ANY OF THIS IS INCORRECT, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO COMMENT, BUT THIS IS WHAT MY EXPERIENCE LED TO.
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HTC ADVANTAGE X7501 AT&T TILT 8925 VERIZON XV6700
THEQUARTZGUY said:
HEY ALL,
I AM A FAIRLY EXPERIENCED USER WITH WM DEVICES, IN FACT I HAVE PUT TOGETHER SOME DECENT ROMS FOR THE KAISER, BUT I AM PRETTY NEW TO THE ADVANTAGE AS I JUST PICKED ONE UP LAST WEEK. PLEASE EXCUSE MY IGNORANCE IN THIS ISSUE, AS IT SEEMS JUST AN ISSUE OF ME MAKING AN EXTREMELY "ROOKIE" MISTAKE.
I HAVE READ, READ, READ AND READ SOME MORE, AS ONE SHOULD ALWAYS DO, BUT SOME HOW I GOT MYSELF INTO SOME TROUBLE WHILE RUNNING THE ATHENA UNLOCKER ON MY ADVANTAGE X7501... BIG TROUBLE...
I RAN THE UNLOCKER, AND FELT PRETTY COMFORTABLE WITH THE PROCESS, BUT WHILE THE UNLOCKER WAS RUNNING, AFTER IT ALLOOWED ME TO BACK UP MY SPL, IT WAS RUNNING SCRIPTS AS USUAL, AND I RECIVED AN UNUSUAL WINDOWS ERROR WITH THE UNLOCKER APP (PROGRAMS HAS EXPERIENCED ABNORMAL ACTIVITY OR SOMETHING TO THAT EFFECT...) THEN GAVE ME THE OPTION TO CONTINUE OR QUIT, SO I CHOSE CONTINUE, BUT THE DEVICE DID NOTHING MORE AND THE UNLOCKER BASICALLY FROZE. THE PC WAS "OK", AS FAR AS NOT BEING FROZE UP, BUT THE UNLOCKER WOULD NOT MOVE ANOTHER STEP! AFTER WAITING NEARLY AN HOUR, I DECIDED TO DISCONNECT (BAD IDEA, I SHOULD HAVE KNOWN BETTER, I REALIZE THIS PROBLEM IS BY ALL MEANS MY OWN FAULT!).
AFTER DISCNNECT, DEVICE APPEARED FINE UNTIL FIRST SOFT RESET, THEN I GOT NO BOOT, NO BOOTLOADER WITH ANY KEY COMBINATION, AND NOTHING ELSE. I CAN GET DEVICE TO WHAT WOULD NORMALLY BE THE STANDARD BL SCREEN, BUT NO OLIPRO SPL, NO WRITING AT ALL, AND NO SERIAL OR USB WHEN CONNECTED OR DISCONNECTED FROM PC! ALL I HAVE IS TRI-COLOR SCREEN WITH NO WRITING, REGARDLESS OF KEY/RESET COMBINATIONS THAT I HAVE TRIED, WHICH I BELIEVE ARE ALL OF THEM!
I AM OUT OF OPTIONS, I WAS HOPING SOME OF MY FELLOW XDA FOLKS COULD HELP AN "IDIOT" IN NEED! I WOULD CERTAINLY APPRECIATE IT !
ALSO I WOULD GLADLY PROVIDE ANY MORE INFO IF NEEDED FOR FURHTER ADVICE. THANKS IN ADVANCE.
SORRY FOR LONG POST, JUST TRYING TO PROVIDE AS MUCH INFO AS POSSIBLE...
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Hi
You could try Hard Reset BY Volume down+Stylus reset. if it turns on and load OS then you can use the unlocker again without Sim and Memory card(but your pc must have netframe work 2.0 installed and updated). If your device failed to load OS then you have to find the original rom for your device (which you can download from this website "use the search function") then unlock your device with olipro's latest unlocker.
Good luck
I got this once when I tried to flash from the memory card.
Remove both memory and sim card and battery for 10 mins.
make sure you are disconnected from the puter.
put battery in and hold the camerabutton all the way in and press the reset pin and hopefully you will enter the bootloader proper.
Which version of olipros unlocker did you use
Try to use the last version as it is less prone to trouble and works better on x7501
see this post as well(though not exactly your problem)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=374734
I would also recommend flashing from an xppro machine with the latest activesync
just reinforcing above post as well
I had a similar problem which I outlined here...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=368312
Notice the screenshots about a third of the way down.
Does your Advantage bootscreen look like this?
-Alex-
try inserting an SD card and boot to this strange bootloader screen
does it say Loading (then No image found)?
also, i assume you mean the PC does not see the device either?
what athena version have you all got? x7501? brand new? maybe HTC changed something about them...
Still No Luck!!! Any More Advice? It Would Be Appreciated...
Hey All,
Thanks For All Of Your Helpful Advice, Unfortunately, I Think Im In A Little Deeper Than That
Bairda (Alex), I Looked At Your Screen Shots From Your Post, And Yea!!! That Is Exactly What My Device Looks Like!!! I Can Load The Bootloader, But Tricolor Only!!!! No Letters/ Version Numbers/ Anything!!!! I Really Dont Know What Else To Try, As I Know How To Flash A Rom From The Storage Card, But I Cannot Even Get The Bootloader To Load Properly!!! Any Advice Bairda (Alex)- Or Anyone Else?
Again, Got Disconnected After Having Issue With 3 Step Unlocker, After 1st Soft Reset, No Boot/ No Os/ Not Bootloader Screen With Ver Numbers And Spl/.... Only Tricolor With No Writing!!! I Have Attatched Alex's Thumbnails, As It Is Exactly What Mine Is Doing... (hope Thats Ok Bairda (Alex)!)
Also, Just Note That I Am Running Vista Home Premium, With All The Latest Updates/service Packs...
Please See Pics And I Would Appreciate A Minute Of Anyones Time To Get This Thing Going... Also, I Would Of Course Be Willing To Make A Donation Of What Ever I Can Scrounge Up For Some Assistance On This Issue!
Thanks So Much!!!
PLEASE FEEL FREE TO PM IF YOU HAVE ANY INFO AT ALL THAT COULD HELP A GUY OUT! THX!
if it can't load an image from SD and PC (with XP) can't see the device, then it needs to be sent back, if possible under warranty
bad choice
hay there first time some thing like that happen to me i was stuck for hours but then i got into boot loader in flashed the pk 3.0 and it worked so if u can see the olipro 1.20 thing then its all good and if u cant then mabee ur f***d that type of error u got its supose to cum near the end
THEQUARTZGUY said:
Hey All,
Thanks For All Of Your Helpful Advice, Unfortunately, I Think Im In A Little Deeper Than That
Bairda (Alex), I Looked At Your Screen Shots From Your Post, And Yea!!! That Is Exactly What My Device Looks Like!!! I Can Load The Bootloader, But Tricolor Only!!!! No Letters/ Version Numbers/ Anything!!!! I Really Dont Know What Else To Try, As I Know How To Flash A Rom From The Storage Card, But I Cannot Even Get The Bootloader To Load Properly!!! Any Advice Bairda (Alex)- Or Anyone Else?
Again, Got Disconnected After Having Issue With 3 Step Unlocker, After 1st Soft Reset, No Boot/ No Os/ Not Bootloader Screen With Ver Numbers And Spl/.... Only Tricolor With No Writing!!! I Have Attatched Alex's Thumbnails, As It Is Exactly What Mine Is Doing... (hope Thats Ok Bairda (Alex)!)
Also, Just Note That I Am Running Vista Home Premium, With All The Latest Updates/service Packs...
Please See Pics And I Would Appreciate A Minute Of Anyones Time To Get This Thing Going... Also, I Would Of Course Be Willing To Make A Donation Of What Ever I Can Scrounge Up For Some Assistance On This Issue!
Thanks So Much!!!
PLEASE FEEL FREE TO PM ME OR EMAIL ME AT [email protected] IF YOU HAVE ANY INFO AT ALL THAT COULD HELP A GUY OUT! THX!
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Sorry that you are having the same problems that I did. Unfortunately, I can't bring you much comfort as I tried everything that I could find or was suggested. I searched every post and put out multiple cross-postings (that is a real sign of desperation for me!). Ultimately I had to get a new unit from Amazon as I could NOT get it back from the land of rainbow death that you see in the pics. I am no expert with the Athena/Advantage but I am also pretty experienced with computers and rarely ever get myself into a no-win like this. It takes alot for me to give up and declare a piece of equipment beyond my ability to fix, but this was one of those times.
I think that I traced the eventual cause to one (or a combination) of the following:
- Leaving the SIM and the Mini SD in the unit during the flash process
- Some glitch when using vista with the bootloader
- Using an older version of the OliPro unlocker (very likely the cause)
- Somehow panicing during the unlock and interupting the upgrade. You MUST do all three steps of the unlock to be safe.
I repeated the unlock with replacement unit being careful to use the latest bulletproof unlock and had no problems. But the original unit did have to go back.
I sincerely hope that you have better luck! Tell me how it turns out! If there is any other info you think you might be able to use from my experience, please ask away!
-Alex-
bairda said:
You MUST do all three steps of the unlock to be safe.
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nope, the second and third steps are only for sim unlocking
But if you what to uprage a new Radio you have to do a SIM unlock?
cmonex said:
nope, the second and third steps are only for sim unlocking
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I stand corrected.
I would caution though, that for new users it would be best to follow the procedure through all 3 steps. As I understand it there is no harm in doing this other than the increase cost in time and effort and may be less confusing and safer then just doing the first.
Is this correct?
-Alex-
marthynovak said:
But if you what to uprage a new Radio you have to do a SIM unlock?
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nope, it's got nothing to do with the radio version
it's another area where simunlock info is stored
bairda said:
I stand corrected.
I would caution though, that for new users it would be best to follow the procedure through all 3 steps. As I understand it there is no harm in doing this other than the increase cost in time and effort and may be less confusing and safer then just doing the first.
Is this correct?
-Alex-
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well it can't do much harm, of course less flashing means less risk, and step 2 and step 3 both flash a radio.
as a newbie i'd imagine it's easier to just do step 1 because step 2 can cause corruption to the OS so it needs to be reflashed and the black screen scares the newbies etc.
What I have noticed reading this board too is that sometimes the type of USB cables used matters. I do not know why, but this happened to me too. I failed at step #2 and couldn't figure it our why. To resolve this I changed everything. From computer to usb cables to fresh files, to restore old image and re-tried the process and it worked.
Also one thing I noticed is that the old unlocked is linked allot instead of the new unlocker which is almost bullet proof. Some folks did download the old unlocker and tried it on their x7501 and bricked their device....
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Problem Resolved!!! Please Read, Very Important Information!!!
OK EVERYONE, MY PROBLEM IS RESOLVED, BUT I WANTED TO POST EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED FOR EVERYONE TO SEE, ESPECIALLY FOR NEW FOLKS... AFTER HAVING THE ISSUES ABOVE, I CONSULTED WITH MANY PEOPLE TO TRY MANY, MANY METHODS OF RECOVERING THE DEVICE. ALL ATTEMPTS TO RECOVER WERE UNSUCCESSFUL, AS IT APPEARS THAT I USED THE INCORRECT UNLOCKER!!!
BASICALLY, THE UNLOCKER THAT I USED IS THE OLDER ONE, THAT SHOULD NEVER BE USED ANYMORE! AFTER THE SPL WAS ERASED, THE PROCESS ENCOUNTERED AN ERROR BEFORE IT WAS ABLE TO RE-FLASH THE NEW SPL. I HAPPENED TO CALL HTC AS A LAST RESORT, AN ONLY TOLD THEM THAT MY PHONE WOULD NOT TURN ON. I THEN SENT IT TO THEM, AND THEY TOLD ME THAT EVEN THOUGH I PURCHASED THE DEVICE USED, IT IS STILL UNDER WARRANTY DURING THE APPLICABLE DATES (WHICH IS 15 MONTHS FROM DATE OF MFG).
SO IN SHORT, THEY REPLACED MY MOTHERBOARD, AS THEY FLASH MEMORY CHIP WAS UNABLE TO BE RE-FLASHED. LUCKLIY, I WAS ABLE TO GET MY DEVICE REPLACED AT NO COST, BUT THIS MISTAKE COULD COST SOMEONE A $1000 DEVICE!!!
AS A RECAP, I AM LISTING A LINK TO THE GOOD ADVANTAGE X7501 UNLOCKER, AND A LINK TO THE OLD ONE, WHICH SHOULD NOT BE USED FOR THE X7501, IN MY EXPERIENCE... IT WAS ALSO CONFIRMED BY A REPUTABLE SENIOR MEMBER THAT THE OLD/BAD UNLOCKER SHOULD NOT BE USED AS WELL.
-GOOD/SAFE X7501 UNLOCKER: (FILE CALLED ATHENAWRAPPER, IN FIRST POST): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=316846
-BAD/OLD X7501 UNLOCKER, READ 1ST POST: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=315831
HOPE THIS INFORMATION IS USEFUL FOR EVERYONE! IF ANY OF THIS IS INCORRECT, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO COMMENT, BUT THIS IS WHAT MY EXPERIENCE LED TO.
THEQUARTZGUY said:
OK EVERYONE, MY PROBLEM IS RESOLVED, BUT I WANTED TO POST EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED FOR EVERYONE TO SEE, ESPECIALLY FOR NEW FOLKS... AFTER HAVING THE ISSUES ABOVE, I CONSULTED WITH MANY PEOPLE TO TRY MANY, MANY METHODS OF RECOVERING THE DEVICE. ALL ATTEMPTS TO RECOVER WERE UNSUCCESSFUL, AS IT APPEARS THAT I USED THE INCORRECT UNLOCKER!!!
BASICALLY, THE UNLOCKER THAT I USED IS THE OLDER ONE, THAT SHOULD NEVER BE USED ANYMORE! AFTER THE SPL WAS ERASED, THE PROCESS ENCOUNTERED AN ERROR BEFORE IT WAS ABLE TO RE-FLASH THE NEW SPL. I HAPPENED TO CALL HTC AS A LAST RESORT, AN ONLY TOLD THEM THAT MY PHONE WOULD NOT TURN ON. I THEN SENT IT TO THEM, AND THEY TOLD ME THAT EVEN THOUGH I PURCHASED THE DEVICE USED, IT IS STILL UNDER WARRANTY DURING THE APPLICABLE DATES (WHICH IS 15 MONTHS FROM DATE OF MFG).
SO IN SHORT, THEY REPLACED MY MOTHERBOARD, AS THEY FLASH MEMORY CHIP WAS UNABLE TO BE RE-FLASHED. LUCKLIY, I WAS ABLE TO GET MY DEVICE REPLACED AT NO COST, BUT THIS MISTAKE COULD COST SOMEONE A $1000 DEVICE!!!
AS A RECAP, I AM LISTING A LINK TO THE GOOD ADVANTAGE X7501 UNLOCKER, AND A LINK TO THE OLD ONE, WHICH SHOULD NOT BE USED FOR THE X7501, IN MY EXPERIENCE... IT WAS ALSO CONFIRMED BY A REPUTABLE SENIOR MEMBER THAT THE OLD/BAD UNLOCKER SHOULD NOT BE USED AS WELL.
-GOOD/SAFE X7501 UNLOCKER: (FILE CALLED ATHENAWRAPPER, IN FIRST POST): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=316846
-BAD/OLD X7501 UNLOCKER, READ 1ST POST: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=315831
HOPE THIS INFORMATION IS USEFUL FOR EVERYONE! IF ANY OF THIS IS INCORRECT, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO COMMENT, BUT THIS IS WHAT MY EXPERIENCE LED TO.
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Hi there,
Thanks indeed for the important info. I haven't yet tried the unlocker. But to my understanding the link " -BAD/OLD X7501 UNLOCKER, READ 1ST POST: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=315831"
points to the latest version of the unlocker. The file I have downloaded is dated in November 2007. This is not correct? And what does the wrapper mean?
Could you please explain? I bought my X7501 in the US, but live in Europe and such a mistake could be totally fatal!
Thanks for your feedback.
Regarding The "bad" Unlocker....
Hey Dodonian / Everyone,
Yea, I Agree That It Is Somewhat Confusing About The "latest" Unlocker Version, But While Dealing With The Issues I Have Had Lately, I Spoke With Olipro, Who Makes The Unlocker, And When I Sent Him The Link That I Labeled Bad In The Last Post, He Replied That It Appeared I Had Tried The Older One, And That The Link To The Other One Labeled "good" Was Infact The Best One.
I Could, I Guess, In Some Way Be Mislead Here, But Just For Your Info, I Did Just Receive My Fixed Advantage X7501 Today, And Immediately Ran The "athena_wrapper" Which Is Availible On The "good" Link That I Posted. It Ran Good And Flashed Directly From The Bootloader. Afterwards, I Was Able To Flash My Own Custom Rom With No Difficulty, And All Went Well.
Hope This Answers Your Question!
---ryan
THEQUARTZGUY said:
Hey Dodonian / Everyone,
Yea, I Agree That It Is Somewhat Confusing About The "latest" Unlocker Version, But While Dealing With The Issues I Have Had Lately, I Spoke With Olipro, Who Makes The Unlocker, And When I Sent Him The Link That I Labeled Bad In The Last Post, He Replied That It Appeared I Had Tried The Older One, And That The Link To The Other One Labeled "good" Was Infact The Best One.
I Could, I Guess, In Some Way Be Mislead Here, But Just For Your Info, I Did Just Receive My Fixed Advantage X7501 Today, And Immediately Ran The "athena_wrapper" Which Is Availible On The "good" Link That I Posted. It Ran Good And Flashed Directly From The Bootloader. Afterwards, I Was Able To Flash My Own Custom Rom With No Difficulty, And All Went Well.
Hope This Answers Your Question!
---ryan
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Thanks Ryan!
I see. I know that the X7501 is sold unlocked in the US and therefore only the 1st step of flashing the SPL would make sense. That means that if run the athena wrapper, all will be OK for flashing radio, ROM etc. I that correct?
Two more questions, if you don't mind.
1.Did you need to install .NET to run the Athena wrapper?, or is it kind of pre-installed mostly?
2.What is your experience with the cooked ROMs? Running stable? Can you flash back the original ROM if required?
Thanks
Dod.
I ran the 'wrapper' this week, step 1 only, so I could upgrade the radio driver. I first ran the bad unlocker and got the 'black screen of death', but after reflashing a good ROM, then the good 'wraapper', then the latest radio all is well.