I need to replace my brick'd TyTN today. I'm traveling for business next week and need a device. I like the look of the JASJAM and 8525 better than the TyTN, but I'm not sure which model I should buy. I would just buy the 8525 from Cingular, but it doesn't look like it will be out within a few days, as was originally promised. With all the models of the Hermes out there, which would you prefer if you were buying again? Thanks
BTW...my current TyTN will be off to Germany for repairs. I'll probably Ebay one or the other, or give it to my Dad, when it gets back from its repair journey.
Are you travelling in or out of the country?
I'm staying in the country for this trip
Well, the hardware issues (inoperative flash, bad keys, SA) on the TyTN seem to be worked out. No US operators officially carry the HERMES yet however so overseas repairs are going to be an issue.
Mu thoughts would be to get another TyTN and sell the repaired one on eBay when you get it back... Or keep it for a TyTN experimental mule. Maybe HTC will put in the SA fix too as a matter of course on your old one.
Heck, can we even get operator branded HERMES devices here?
I hear ya...I'm going to ship it next week and see what happens. In the meantime, I'm going to see if I can get a decent price on the JASJAM, as I do like the look a bit better.
Thanks!
Hello all, I have just a quick question. I have a SB X01HT that I bought off of Ebay and at this moment I have my Tmobile Sim card in it. I have had pdas in the past, but not with a phone mixed in. Now starting in January I am switching to Cingular for the 3G services. Should I flash the unit with their Rom or just leave the one that’s in it now. The rom ver is 1.23 / radio 1.13 and the spl is 1.04. I guess the phone is unlocked seeing that I am using a T-mobile Sim card. After reading this site for sometime I am not sure of the benefits to flashing to Cingular’s rom. Just wanted to see what others would do. Thanks…
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Hello all, I have just a quick question. I have a SB X01HT that I bought off of Ebay and at this moment I have my Tmobile Sim card in it. I have had pdas in the past, but not with a phone mixed in. Now starting in January I am switching to Cingular for the 3G services. Should I flash the unit with their Rom or just leave the one that’s in it now. The rom ver is 1.23 / radio 1.13 and the spl is 1.04. I guess the phone is unlocked seeing that I am using a T-mobile Sim card. After reading this site for sometime I am not sure of the benefits to flashing to Cingular’s rom. Just wanted to see what others would do. Thanks…
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Where you at? Was it cheap?
Anyway, i dont think you HAVE to change it. But some roms have more or less
functions and some are a little better in performance.
I am in the US. As for price I paid 569.00 for the phone and 30 for shipping. I see that The guy I bought it with now sells them at 549.00
http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/29/windows-mobile-6-update-for-t-mobile-dash-leaked/
Hopefully T-Mobile will also have a WM6 upgrade for the Ameo at some point in the future.
Well... HTC is releasing WM6 for the Advantage, so I'm guessing it's comming...
Update WM6 for Ameo
T-Mobile Germany unofficially said that they were working on an WM6 version for the Ameo. So wait a bit and we will see.
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T-Mobile Germany unofficially said that they were working on an WM6 version for the Ameo. So wait a bit and we will see.
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Where was this from? Was this a conversation with customer services, or something a bit more substantial?
Cheers
Well this is the response I got from T-Mobile UK yesterday so im not holding my breath.
Hello,
Thank you for your email about windows mobile 6.
At present we have no plans to offer an upgrade to WM6 on any of our MDA phone. This is something we are looking onto however so this may change in the future.
I'm sorry I did not have better news for you on this occasion, if you have any further queries please don't hesitate to contact us again.
Kind regards
RossT-Mobile
That is just about MDA devices, Ameo is new device
I'd be surprised if they did release an OS upgrade... T-Mobile don't tend to do something if there's nothing in it for them, like most big businesses....
The phone is designed for their point of view for the top exec for company phones, most companies of which wouldn't care what it's got on it as long as it does the job for their employee at the cheapest contract price.
:-(
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That is just about MDA devices, Ameo is new device
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I know it's not in the title, but I'm pretty sure T-Mobile classify the Ameo within the MDA range, their WM.PPC wing
WM6 update
It was a conversation with the competence center of multimedia and technology from T-Mobile in Germany, I think it was Berlin. They assured that development of the WM6 update of the Ameo was on schedule, it would take at least another 4 weeks until it was complete. It was said that only the MDA Compact III (Artimis) and Ameo (Athena) would get a WM6 update. As I said its nothing official. We also now the Dash got an update, perhaps more devices will get one.
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http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/29/windows-mobile-6-update-for-t-mobile-dash-leaked/
Hopefully T-Mobile will also have a WM6 upgrade for the Ameo at some point in the future.
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in the future???
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in the future???
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Yeah. As in not now... lol
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It was a conversation with the competence center of multimedia and technology from T-Mobile in Germany, I think it was Berlin. They assured that development of the WM6 update of the Ameo was on schedule, it would take at least another 4 weeks until it was complete. It was said that only the MDA Compact III (Artimis) and Ameo (Athena) would get a WM6 update. As I said its nothing official. We also now the Dash got an update, perhaps more devices will get one.
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<yoda>There is another......</yoda>
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<yoda>There is another......</yoda>
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That sounds promising Slave1, thanks for sharing.
X7501 has WM6?
http://www.htc.com/product/03-product_x7501.htm
Is the X7501 actually available? Would the ROM work on an X7500 or, more importantly an Ameo....
I am getting my Ameo soon and not looking forward to going back to WM5....
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http://www.htc.com/product/03-product_x7501.htm
Is the X7501 actually available? Would the ROM work on an X7500 or, more importantly an Ameo....
I am getting my Ameo soon and not looking forward to going back to WM5....
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i don't think the x7501 ROM will work on X7500 or Ameo, x7501 don't have the video call function. If you want wm6 on your Athena, you can install DOPOD's ROM
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i don't think the x7501 ROM will work on X7500 or Ameo, x7501 don't have the video call function. If you want wm6 on your Athena, you can install DOPOD's ROM
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I diddn't think any WM6 ROMs had video (mu Universal one doesn't) and I didn't know there was a Dopod WM6 for the Athena! Do you ahve a link? I'm getting an ameo soon, can it be installed on that?
Thanks.
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I diddn't think any WM6 ROMs had video (mu Universal one doesn't) and I didn't know there was a Dopod WM6 for the Athena! Do you ahve a link? I'm getting an ameo soon, can it be installed on that?
Thanks.
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the reason why your WM6 Universal don't have video call function is because the ROM is not official, the official ROM will have the video function. And yes DOPOD will have WM6 for DOPOD U1000, but is not out yet, it will be available next month but at this moment you can't flash it, you need a CID unlock tool first.
"NO RADIO" or "NO GSM" GSM/3G module failure T-Mobile Ameo original ROM for warranty?
****** A note for those who may be in a similar situation or pondering over something similar ****
How it ended is that HTC refused to honour the warranty for the reason of "nonstandard software installed / user inflicted damage". To be perfectly honest the law is on their side on this one unfortunately.
I was charged for the repair, waiting for the unit now. :/
Conclusion - as was easy to predict is that HTC will try to use the argument of different branding to refuse warranty, so if you're using HTC branded ROM on T-Mobile branded unit - the warranty goes.
Nothing new here, just for others to have a track.
Also, for those experiencing following problems:
- No GSM, No 3G, but at the same time WiFi and GPS working
- At the boot "NO GSM", "NO RADIO" or "R NONE" displayed instead of the radio stack version, the message depends on the radio stack version
... your motherboard is 99% damaged.
It's not repairable apparently (relax, the unit is). I was charged for "M/B repair", but when the unit came back the motherboard was obviously replaced - new IMEI, physical marks gone. Compared to the price of the whole unit the repair is not that much, so don't despair, send it to them. They're very fast.
The fault is apparently rather rare, but not unknown. May be caused by misuse like leaving the power source plugged in when removing the battery or simply a manufacturing fault. If you have standard software, you will have the repair under the warranty.
Mine just died in the middle of the call for no apparent reason and as I had Olipro's SPL and other non-standard ROM on it I was charged for the repair.
The unit is back, like new, I'm happy again and hope it won't happen to any of you.
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Hi all.
First of all, thx for all the effort that you've put into making Athena/Ameo work with WM6 and all those tools.
Now, I need an original T-Mobile UK Ameo ROM. I have searched hi and low on FTP, wiki, but I cannot find an original T-Mobile UK ROM, only HTC (different branding, etc)
The situation is such - my Ameo was bought second hand from E-bay. It already had a WM6 put on it by a very nice and helpful seller.
After some time of using it, the phone module got fried somehow. After the soft reset due to a hang in a phone call the device doesn't see the phone anymore.
GPS works, WIFI works but no phone, when booting it shows "R NONE" like there's no radio.
I've tried re-flashing with two different radio ROM's, then a full WM6 re-flash, all to no avail.
I have a feeling it's a fried SIM reader, before going completely it complained once about "incorrect SIM" or something similar. The SIM is ok of course, I've checked it in other mobiles and also other sims in the Ameo with the same result.
I've seen similar posts on the net, but to claim warranty I will have to revert back to WM5 or of course they will try to claim that the phone module got fried by WM6, wich is balls (excuse my Latin).
So... after this lengthy introduction - does ANYONE have a backup copy of T-Mobile UK original ROM?
PLEASE?
Jack
Check here:
ftp://ftp.xda-developers.com/Athena/Shipped_Complete_Updates
jpiskorski said:
Hi all.
First of all, thx for all the effort that you've put into making Athena/Ameo work with WM6 and all those tools.
Now, I need an original T-Mobile UK Ameo ROM. I have searched hi and low on FTP, wiki, but I cannot find a definite answer.
The situation is such - my Ameo was bought second hand from E-bay. It already had a WM6 put on it by a very nice and helpful seller.
After some time of using it, the phone module got fried somehow. After the soft reset due to a hang in a phone call the device doesn't see the phone anymore.
GPS works, WIFI works but no phone, when booting it shows "R NONE" like there's no radio.
I've tried re-flashing with two different radio ROM's, then a full WM6 re-flash, all to no avail.
I have a feeling it's a fried SIM reader, before going completely it complained once about "incorrect SIM" or something similar. The SIM is ok of course, I've checked it in other mobiles and also other sims in the Ameo with the same result.
I've seen similar posts on the net, but to claim warranty I will have to revert back to WM5 or of course they will try to claim that the phone module got fried by WM6, wich is balls (excuse my Latin).
So... after this lengthy introduction - does ANYONE have a backup copy of T-Mobile UK original ROM?
PLEASE?
Jack
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And you're sure it's a hardware problem and not a band issue with the phone? I know when I first got my phone I had to change the band to make it work with T-Mobile.
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And you're sure it's a hardware problem and not a band issue with the phone? I know when I first got my phone I had to change the band to make it work with T-Mobile.
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Yes, 100%.
1. It did work for 3 days with some heavy usage (phone calls, 3G for browsing for 3 hours straight for a test, GPS driving across country roads for 4 hours, boy that was fun).
2. Before it stopped working it complained about a problem with SIM. SIM is ok, other SIMs don't work either.
3. After a soft reset and all following hard resets, radio rom updates, full re-flashing still at the black screen there is that "R NONE" message. Google'ing around I've found three similar reports about Athena/U1000 and all three end up with "had to take the handset to the warranty repair, got a new one back"...
4. And finally - I left it switched off for the night with 50% battery still there at 1am. At 7:30am when switched on it had 10%. There seems to be some power drain, that makes me think something is hardware-fried.
I am really cautious about approaching T-Mobile warranty with WM6 and Olipro 1.20 SPL onboard, I can almost hear the answer and I don't like it.
Thx.
Jack
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Check here:
ftp://ftp.xda-developers.com/Athena/Shipped_Complete_Updates
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Hi, thx for your answer, I've looked there, but there's no T-Mobile UK ROM there, only HTC.
Does anyone have an original backup ROM for T-Mobile UK?
Also - how can I make sure the Hard-SPL by Olipro is gone and all is left is Ameo as it left the factory? Is there something I have to be aware of (to take it off)?
If those questions are stupid I appologise, but I don't have much experience with Athena, I only had it for 4 days. :/
So far I was always working with ipaq's and Imate Jam. Never had to deal with warranty on those.
Thx once again.
Jack
i can send you an NBH file with the T-mobile splash screens, i think you can find the extended rom in the forum.. i don't know what is the Radio rom version is, nor the OS that came with mine .. i've a problem with the GPS as well and i did buy my unit from ebay
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i can send you an NBH file with the T-mobile splash screens, i think you can find the extended rom in the forum.. i don't know what is the Radio rom version is, nor the OS that came with mine .. i've a problem with the GPS as well and i did buy my unit from ebay
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Hey, that would be great. Can you upload them here? Or simply mail to [email protected]
Do you still have original WM5 on your device too by any chance?
What problems do you have with your GPS? Maybe I can help?
If your unit is bought on E-bay, you still should have the manufacturers warranty, check that on http://service.htceurope.com/Wizard.aspx
At that link you can quickly check if your unit is still covered, it should be, Ameos are not long enough on the market to expire their warranty.
Thx in advance
Jack
Thanks man for the info, here is the NBH file i've crearted using the HTC tool (attached), Note that your device should be SUPERCID to be able to flash the rom with this image.
My gps isn't working under wm6, tried wm5 but still didn't work, it stops when i try to flash the SIRFBootloader.nb (GPS) with an error code 00018003, i only get that error when i use the miniSD for flashing, as the normal activesync flashing doesn't show the errors as well as the miniSD one. i've tried every single rom in the forum, all fails .. asked for help but non had that problem, some don't know that some roms don't include that SIRFbootloader.nbh and only have the OS,splashes are the radio.
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Thanks man for the info, here is the NBH file i've crearted using the HTC tool (attached), Note that your device should be SUPERCID to be able to flash the rom with this image.
My gps isn't working under wm6, tried wm5 but still didn't work, it stops when i try to flash the SIRFBootloader.nb (GPS) with an error code 00018003, i only get that error when i use the miniSD for flashing, as the normal activesync flashing doesn't show the errors as well as the miniSD one. i've tried every single rom in the forum, all fails .. asked for help but non had that problem, some don't know that some roms don't include that SIRFbootloader.nbh and only have the OS,splashes are the radio.
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Cheerz mate, I will try to combine this branding with HTC WM5 and see how it looks... still I'm hoping somebody will come up with full original image.
Somehow I can't believe nobody backed it up before doing upgrades. In the olden days when I was playing with Linux on iPaq's, how else could we come back? (Ohhh... the warm fuzzy feeling of a text console on the black screen on my iPaq... and nothing more. That was year 2000. )
Sounds like some real trouble you're having there with GPS... I'm afraid it's completely out of my league, maybe somebody else will have some advise.
Jack
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Hi,
having bricked one Ameo trying to unlock it I have a replacement from T-Mobile UK. I am a noobie so I have no idea how to make an image of what you need, but if you post instructions and there is no danger of another bricked unit I'd be happy to upload it for you
Hard-SPL is permanent
Just thought I'd let you guys know that Olipro's Hard-SPL and signature on the bootloader-screen is permanent. Sorry, but that is what made it unbrickable too.
I don't think it is permanent, I no longer have his spl appearing on the boot screen. I presume it was during the last rom flash, (but I've been to sleep since then so may have forgotten what I did), but it now shows as 2.20. before it was the olipro one..
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Just thought I'd let you guys know that Olipro's Hard-SPL and signature on the bootloader-screen is permanent. Sorry, but that is what made it unbrickable too.
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Oh sweet... :/
Thx for clearing this up.
Did anyone have experience trying to claim warranty from HTC on the T-Mobile unit with WM6 on it? After all it's HTC's own soft, but the legal standing is that voids the warranty, so they can use it to refuse repair.
Damn it, it seems the GSM module is not repairable, all reports say about replacing the whole unit. :/
I saw some reports here about T-Mobile UK releasing WM6 official upgrade in September, I think I'll just wait until then, the soft will be official even if the SPL won't.
Will keep you all posted here about the development of all that in case some other poor sod finds himself in a similar pickle.
Damn. :/
Jack
ArnieSack said:
Hi,
having bricked one Ameo trying to unlock it I have a replacement from T-Mobile UK. I am a noobie so I have no idea how to make an image of what you need, but if you post instructions and there is no danger of another bricked unit I'd be happy to upload it for you
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Thx for your offer, it's really nice to find help when you need it.
Although I think I'm giving up.
I'm at the mercy of HTC Europe service anyway. In that situation I'd rather approach them honest with WM6 and the unit as it is, as it is clearly a hardware fault, if they're sensible I have half a chance there.
I need the unit badly as a GPS now anyway, so I have to wait and there's a chance T-Mob UK will release WM6. Then the situation looks even better again.
But as I cannot apparently remove Olipro's SPL, the unit shows clear signs of tampering. If I were them, I must say I would be much less understanding seeing a modified unit which then somebody tried to conceal and did it badly on top of it leaving the SPL cracked.
Or... if that's hardware problem and there's a power drain there's that outside chance the whole motherboard will go and the ROM version is not a problem anymore I guess.
I find it all a bit crazy though, I hate those legal catch 22 cases. ROM by the manufacturer, but warranty void on a 400 quid unit because of branding (warranty would be ok if I used the HTC WM6 straight on the HTC branded unit instead of Ameo).
Ok, sorry for flooding, it's just that the frustration is killing me. :/
Jack
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I don't think it is permanent, I no longer have his spl appearing on the boot screen. I presume it was during the last rom flash, (but I've been to sleep since then so may have forgotten what I did), but it now shows as 2.20. before it was the olipro one..
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I think you're referring to ROM version.
SPL original would be 1.00 I think and Olipro's I have now is 1.20
Jack
I have an Hermes right now... and I love it (Thanks to PDACorner's excellent WM6.1 ROM). But... I cant keep thinking I would be even happier with a Rafael
Does someone know if the phone is expected in Japan (I havent found anything from Softbank or Docomo) ?
If not I was even considering buying the phone online but if I remember well wifiwake is device specific so I wont be able to get my flat fee package for packets to work I guess...
Waoh looks like everybody is excited about it
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Waoh looks like everybody is excited about it
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Wrong forum bro might pay to look on the other side also what does expansys say?
Yes and no... I hesitated between the 2 threads... Since with Softbank the only HTC device available is the Hermes, and the access to Softbank flatrate is password protected (and we do not have the password...) it does make sense to post here. People wishing to upgrade from their Softbank X01HT are all going to face this issue...
Any way fr the ones who have interest, au will be the operator selling the Touch Pro