Dear Community, Dear Experts, Dear Gurus ,
I am hoping for your help. Unfortuntately the Speaker in my HTC TyTn died
and I need to send back the TYTN to the service center in order to get most likely the speaker replaced ( dead ).
Here my isue:
I want to flash the original stock rom, which is:
RUU_Hermes_1.18.257.2_1.18.257.106_1.03.03.10_Qtek_GER_Ship.exe
I have running now and downgraded from WM6 to WM5:
HTC_BOOT HERM200 IPL-1.04 SPL-2.10.Olipro ->>> not OK :-(
ROM HTC German QTEK_102 1.18.257.2 05/30/06 ->>> OK
EXTROM 1.18.257.106 ->>> OK
RadioRom 1.41.00.10 ->>> not OK :-(
Protocol 32.34.7010.01H ->>> OK
OS Build 14955.2.3.0 ->>> OK
AKU 2.3 ->>> OK
The issue is now, how can I restore the original bootloader ? I can only
flash the rom with the RUUWrapper, the result of flashing the original stock
rom is then, that I am still stuck with the modified bootloader and a corrupted
radio rom. Radio Rom was "fixed" by me by flashing the latest version.
If I would try to use the original flasher I would always get an Update Error [260].
So what can I do to resotre the HTC TyTn to its original status, so that the warranty is not voided ... original stock bootloader, radio rom image and so on.
Thanks a lot and hoping for your support, since I am realy lost here.
Sbrani
grab sspl (soft spl) and use that to flash a stock bootloader only.
as far as i know you cannot downgrade the radio due to it being bootloader 0108 variant, but not having a hermes i might be wrong
You can restore the original SPL bootloader by using SSPL but you will not be able to downgrade the Radio as the original has HTC_BOOT 0106.
You have already checked these guys that they haven't released an update?
First of all, thanks a lot for replying, but still the question is, how I can get rid of the HERM200 IPL-1.04 SPL-2.10.Olipro Bootloader. I would need to downgrade once again to the original HTC bootlader 106. As long as I have the other one, I will always end up, with a non working radio rom, since this stone old radio rom is not compatible with the new "IPL-1.04 SPL-2.10" bootlader. Any further Ideas ? Anyway the sspl (soft spl) did the trick and was able to flash orignal rom, but unfortunately with the same result, still not the original bootloader and the radio rom is now again corrupted :-(.
The bootloader hindering you from downgrading to the original radio is not the IPL/SPL combo but instead the built-in bootloader of the radio itself. Read more in the Wiki.
To put back your original SPL loader, use NBHextract to extract the SPL image from the ROM update file you used to downgrade the other bits in your phone, then use NBHgen to create an update file containing only the SPL and then use SSPL for the update.
Hey great support here ! Finally I also managed to restore the original bootloader, which is HERM200 IPL-1.00 HERM200 SPL-1.04. Now I only have to get the original radio rom running. Thanks a lot, seems that I can think now of actually reaching the final goal. I learned a lot. Great community !!!
You're missing the point about the radio. Let me repeat:
You can't install the original radio ROM. You will brick the phone!
abubasim is right, you have htc_boot 0108, so you can only flash radios with htc_boot 0107 or 0108, but not 0106. Your original radio has 0106, so if you flash it you'll get a NoGSM error and a bricked phone.
about downgrading to WM5
pof said:
abubasim is right, you have htc_boot 0108, so you can only flash radios with htc_boot 0107 or 0108,
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Well Pof, abubasim, Couldn’t sbrani downgrade the radio with custom RUU to his own original Rom Radio first?? (almost the official known Radio is 1.38) then following your description. At that time he gone have WM5 Rom and same Radio as original, I just wondering if u can du like this
Don't worry guys I bricked several times now the radio rom . It's just that it is then extra work. I will keep you updated, as soon I have news, for now I can't see anymore those "upgrading" tools. I will try it again tomorrow.
you where able to unbrick because you had HardSPL, but now you have SPL-1.04 which will not allow you to flash unsigned code.
By the way, did anybody have experience with HTC or better to say HTC Serivce Providers. As far as I know I have to send it to Teleservice in Germany. Are they realy checking the installed rom ? Thanks for the info.
Ok, I made it finally, I will post exactly how I did it, maybe it helps someone who will be in the same situation.
Thanks once again, great SUPPORT !!
Sure you'd HELP me!
Hi there,
Hi Sbrani, I'm in the exactly same situation: HTC TYTN (Orange France) without speaker... and needing to go to french HTC support.
I upgraded both ROM and Radio to the latest versions following step by step the tutorial found here and on mr (???) on its website (very well done by the way).
Sbrani, Please could you help me to restore as you did, my factory defaults?
Regards
Fly
Can you give more facts ? Pls look into my first thread and put down the infos. Thx
Guideline: How to downgrade to an original rom
Ok here we go this is how I solved this issue.
First you need to understand the difference between a normal SPL
and the modified SPls, which you can get here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=296722
A standard SPL will not accept any unsigned code !
In case you bricked it already look here :
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_Unbrick
1. you need to figure out, which radio rom matches your rom you want to flash, otherwise you end up with a bricked radio rom or even totally bricked,
if you have a standard SPL.
2.Please check it here:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_Upgrades
for the roms
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_ExtractedRadioRoms
for the radio roms
3.Looking at my ROM, which I needed I flashed 1.10 - Olipro SPL - based on 1.04,
I flashed it by using SSPL.
4.I flashed then the needed the radio rom
which was Radio upgrade only using CustomRUU 4.3 V 1.38.30.10
5.I used then Custom RUU Updater flashing the needed rom,
but without the included radio rom.
Costum RUU Updater you can find here:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_CustomRUU
extracting and modifying is explained here:
http://www.mrvanx.org/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=22&Itemid=27
actually it is an how to downgrade from WM6 to WM6.
Please have a close look on how to extract the rom and how to create a
costum rom, which will fit your needs. The self made rom,
should then include the original IPL and SPL loader.
I finally used again SSPL to flash the self cooked rom.
Sorry if the guide is not very precise or not correct at all !!
Everybody is welcome to correct me and to finetune this guide.
LAST BUT NOT LEAST, please read the HERMES WIKI, it was a great help for me !!
Thank you!
You deserve a Very Very Warm thank you!
I'll try all you advised me this week-end.
Regards,
FlY
it's very good already. i think you should get it incorporated into MrVanx's guide as a downgrade for servicing section
Thanks for your guide sbrani, I have not had to downgrade yet, but it something that is in the back of my mind as I know it will be very difficult if I ever need to.
I would also second the comment that I would be very grateful to MrVanx if he wrote a general guide on how to return to factory condition , as it is much more involved than upgrading. It's one thing to flash a phone, a totally different thing to customise a ROM update in order to only flash a specified portion.
@sbrani:
What version is your radio ROM at now? 1.03.03.10 or 1.38.30.10?
Hi there,
My X7500 internal GPS seems to have a defect. The slightest touch makes it lose it's fix as if there's a loose contact. My x7500 is SuperCID (IMEI-Check) and has OliPRO hardSPL.
Is there a way to downgrade to the latest WM5 version prior to me sending it back to HTC for repair?
Cheers
I can confirm that with superCID and OliPRO I haven been able to succesfully up&downgrade back & forth between WM5 and WM6
FYI
With one exception. When going back to WM6 I lost my radio 1.45 in the process. I was stuck at 1.38, and upping to WM6 did not bring back the later radio stack.
*Update* Olipor's unlocker nicely took care of that. I now actually managed to combine rom 2.20 and radio 1.47. Thx Olipro for a helluva job building the unlocker! The only thing now is to see whether radio 1.47 improves some of the GPS reception. If not, it's down to WM5 and back to HTC with this puppy.
Do you have the unbranded version of X7500?
Which ROM did you use to go back to WM5?
I have the HTC Generic X7500 (originally Dutch). I used RUU_Athena_HTC_WWE_1.25.405.2_1.38.00.00_Ship.exe to go back to WM5, but the prerequisite is OliPRO *and* superCID.
OliPRO's unlocker will do that for you and gets you these two prerequisites.
Wiz said:
I used RUU_Athena_HTC_WWE_1.25.405.2_1.38.00.00_Ship.exe
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where i can get this WM5 ROM ?
Wiz said:
I have the HTC Generic X7500 (originally Dutch). I used RUU_Athena_HTC_WWE_1.25.405.2_1.38.00.00_Ship.exe to go back to WM5, but the prerequisite is OliPRO *and* superCID.
OliPRO's unlocker will do that for you and gets you these two prerequisites.
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Thanks!
haim said:
where i can get this WM5 ROM ?
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You can download it from the xda ftp.
O.K Thanks!
hi, i'm fairly new to upgrading and i have a question
if i wanted my wm5 hermes (8525) to run Schap's WM6 Pro 4.00 ROM, would i need to upgrade from
wm5 > wm6 > schap's?
i'm talking about the one shown in
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=342168
also, if i upgrade the wm5 to the att wm6 rom (with the 1.54.07.00 radio)
would i lose the radio version as i make the transition to schap's?
thanks
sorry to push it even further, but once i flash hardspl, will i be able to change my radio version simply by using the ruuwrapper?
or are there procedures that i must follow in order to go from a lower radio version to a higher radio version and vice versa?
what about with WM6 roms?
sorry and thanks for your time
You can go directly to Schaps - no need for interim "official" wm6. You can also always flash a radio only using Custom_RUU from Olipro. Most radio-only packages in the forums are bundled with it.
Check out THIS LINK for the best giudes to upgrading around.
Hi,
A few weeks ago I upgraded my T-Mobile Vario 2 to WM6 using the TMUK official update. I like WM6 but now need to downgrade back to WM5 because my satnav software (Route 66 Navigate 7) doesn't work on WM6! I've downloaded the WM5 rom from TMUK but it won't install - it puts the phone into debug mode (the multicoloured thing) but then waits for a while before coming up with an Error 260.
I've read all the guides and used the search but can't find an answer - this is a "stock" phone, not unlocked in any way and I'm only using the official operator's ROMs. Any ideas?
Many thanks,
Tim
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=364424
read this it seem to be the same error
Thanks - but I was hoping to avoid having to unlock the phone. As I understand it I shouldn't need to seeing as I'm trying to install official operator roms?
Cheers,
Tim
what is your bootloader version (HINT HINT)
IPL 1.04
SPL 2.03
I thought none of that mattered if I have only ever used official TMUK operator roms? I went from an offical WM5 to official WM6 and now I'm just trying to go back to official WM5? Whilst I trust the people on here more than I do TMUK support they say there should be no problem doing this.
Thanks again,
Tim
tj80 said:
IPL 1.04
SPL 2.03
I thought none of that mattered if I have only ever used official TMUK operator roms? I went from an offical WM5 to official WM6 and now I'm just trying to go back to official WM5? Whilst I trust the people on here more than I do TMUK support they say there should be no problem doing this.
Thanks again,
Tim
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Since the old RUU isnt aware of the newer SPL version you have that is why it doesnt work.
Follow the guide for downgrading HERE.
BRILLIANT! Thanks mrvanx. I put HardSPL on using your instructions, then followed the WM5 downgrade guide. Only problem was that autodetect of my bootloader didn't work, and my SPL version wasn't listed so I had to use SafeSSPL. Seems to have worked, thanks again.
Cheers,
Tim
I know i am sure I am going to get flamed for this.
But i have searched and searched and can not find a solution.
I have the following currently installed
Rom Version dcd 2 Beta WM6 (Tried others but various things wont work)
Radio Version 3.27.00
SPL 2.40.Olipro
I would like to downgrade to Stock NewZealand Telecom WM5 or any WM5
if that whats needed.
I have a custom application for work that will not run on WM6
Would be nice to keep the GPS function if possible.
So can please somebody post the proccess i need to follow to achieve this.
Many thanks
John
Solved
Hi All
I have managed to downgrade my Titan.
Make sure you have SPL-2.40.Olipro as your bootloader
Then using SD card method flash this DCD ftp://up.ppcgeeks.com/Titan/Users/ImCoKeMaN/roms/TNZ_StockWM5_RUU_signed.nbh
This will give you a device that gets stuck after the 2nd spladsh screen.
Then flash this Radio ftp://xda:[email protected]/Titan/Radio_Roms/titan_2.13_CDMA.rar
Reboot
All sorted
John
Does this procedure also downgrades the radio rom?
When you did the downgrade, were you coming from a radio 3.x, with gps enabled?
On this link, http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=9229 , ImCoKeMaN warns about bricking the phone if one were to do that.
Yes it does
2nd part is radio flash
I saw the other post but was desperate and all worked fine
Jman
You really should try a 6.1 rom. 6.0 roms like the dcd you used are really really old. Try something like dcd 3.3.4