Titan Downgrade From WM6 to WM5 - Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development

I know i am sure I am going to get flamed for this.
But i have searched and searched and can not find a solution.
I have the following currently installed
Rom Version dcd 2 Beta WM6 (Tried others but various things wont work)
Radio Version 3.27.00
SPL 2.40.Olipro
I would like to downgrade to Stock NewZealand Telecom WM5 or any WM5
if that whats needed.
I have a custom application for work that will not run on WM6
Would be nice to keep the GPS function if possible.
So can please somebody post the proccess i need to follow to achieve this.
Many thanks
John

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Hi All
I have managed to downgrade my Titan.
Make sure you have SPL-2.40.Olipro as your bootloader
Then using SD card method flash this DCD ftp://up.ppcgeeks.com/Titan/Users/ImCoKeMaN/roms/TNZ_StockWM5_RUU_signed.nbh
This will give you a device that gets stuck after the 2nd spladsh screen.
Then flash this Radio ftp://xda:[email protected]/Titan/Radio_Roms/titan_2.13_CDMA.rar
Reboot
All sorted
John

Does this procedure also downgrades the radio rom?
When you did the downgrade, were you coming from a radio 3.x, with gps enabled?
On this link, http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=9229 , ImCoKeMaN warns about bricking the phone if one were to do that.

Yes it does
2nd part is radio flash
I saw the other post but was desperate and all worked fine
Jman

You really should try a 6.1 rom. 6.0 roms like the dcd you used are really really old. Try something like dcd 3.3.4

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Upgrade Question

Please dont flame me. I have done alot of reading ... so much so that I think I have confused myself. I dont need step by steps how to do it ... I just need to know if what I am reading is correct or not.
I installed the new ROM and here is my info.
ROM 2.06.502.3
Radio 1.16.00.00
IPL - 1.00
SPL - 1.09
From there I did the v3 SIM & CID Unlocker ... which I did before but did again because I was not sure if it would stick.
All I want to do is upgrade the radio ... I drop alot of calls and I am hoping that 1.27.00.00 helps.
To do this, would I need to run the program to take my BL v. to 1.01 MFG from 1.09, then upgrade to 1.04. Then I can install a new radio ROM? Or is there something else that is keeping me from doing it.
I am sorry and I promise not to ask anymore noob questions. I just want to make sure I fully understand.
Thanks guys.
Kangle
BTW, I think the new ROM version is great. My 8525 is running better than ever (faster) and battery life is WAY better than it was before. I strongly recommend it. Disable the startup animation though! It sucks and it messes up your volume.
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Please, anyone. I really appreciate it.
Well, I am by far no expert on this (and scared of bricking my device) ... so what I did was everything you described ... then I re-installed the new Cingular ROM ... thereby upgrading my radio to 1.33.31.00.
Had I foresight, I would have used the unlocker before upgrading to the new Cinguar ROM (so I would not have to install it twice)...live and learn.
I did not bother with the steps you described necessary to install the 1.27 radio ...figuring I could live with 1.33.31.00
sorry, I misread your post.
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You got radio 1.16 which has radiobl 107, so go ahead and grab a copy of the 1.27 radiorom and run the update.
I read that I need to have BL 1.04 to upgrade the radio.
I currently have BL 1.09. So the only way I can go back to 1.04 is by going to imei-check.co.uk and paying for it right?
Thanks,
Kangle
why do you want 1.27 instead of 1.33?
so, no one answered my prior question ... I realize the Radio ROMs are subjective (and discussed ad naseum in various places on this forum) but I am still looking for a succinct summary (if there is one) as to why I would tinker with my Radio ROM to get off of 1.33 and maybe down to 1.27 or some other.
Are there known and significant issues with 1.33?
Anyone?
I really dont know.
Most of the people I see on the forum are on 1.27.00.
I thought I read somewhere that it seemed to work well for most people, although I do not know why 1.33 wouldnt be just as good. Im still a noob.
If anybody can confirm what I am thinking regarding what I need to do, I would greatly appreciate it.
Thanks,
Kangle
well, 1.33 is working fine for me... and it certainly would be *easier* for you just to re-flash the new cingular rom again (now that you are sim unlocked and super cid) ... that is what I did, and it worked fine. [and candidly, I was to scared of the many steps I was going to need to take to otherwise downgrade my SPL in order to change my Radio]
weinson said:
so, no one answered my prior question ... I realize the Radio ROMs are subjective (and discussed ad naseum in various places on this forum) but I am still looking for a succinct summary (if there is one) as to why I would tinker with my Radio ROM to get off of 1.33 and maybe down to 1.27 or some other.
Are there known and significant issues with 1.33?
Anyone?
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No issues with 1.33. The only advantage of the 1.27 radio is that it uses radio bootloader (RBL) 1.007, whereas Radio 1.33 has RBL 1.008. The difference is that you can run downgrades on 1.27, but not on 1.33.
The only reason that you might want to downgrade is so that you may flash a trinity Radio if they manage to get the GPS going, which seems unlikely without a hardware mod. So unless you plan on opening up your Hermes at some stage to do some surgery, you don't need to downgrade the radio stack.

Updated to WM6 LVSW version, want to go back to CIngular 8525?????

Im not concerned bout getting the original radio but just want to go back to the original rom. I have installed LVSW's version of WM6 and is running into some things that I rather not mess with as far as bugs and all. Now can I just DL the ROm and be straight TIA
I assume you havent read my WM5 Downgrade guide then?
mrvanx said:
I assume you havent read my WM5 Downgrade guide then?
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Thanks for the tip. I'll get to reading some more. Appreciate it.
I did one recently using the most recent AT&T WM5 version. Using SSPL to downgrade, I was also able to change IPL/SPL back to stock versions.
Total Downgrade from WM6 to WM5
Sleuth255,
Just wanted to ensure I understood your process in downgrading from a WM6 rom to a WM5 rom.
Scenario: I am currently using Custel's 2.5(WM6) with radio 1.40, IPL 1.04 SSPL 2.10 Olipro.........
I wish to down grade to the "Stock" Cingular 1.34, with the stock radio 1.3xx
If my thinking is correct, I should be able to run SSPL 1.10 (Olipro) and then flash the WWE ship.exe for the 1.34 which will put the stock IPL/SSPL on the device.........
Am I out in left field with a football uniform on, or is the goal line reachable?????
Thanks,
vpu2....OUT!!!!
follow mrvanx's guide. It shows how to do everything. I went from the 1.41 radio, the 2.1oli spl, and dutty's rom back to a 100% stock phone that was capable of being flashed by the file that you can get from HTC's website... i did all of this using Mrvanx's guide (and the search function)... this link may help a little as well: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=301219&highlight=downgrade+the+SPL

Help please. Will deposit to your paypal.

Hi guys I feel totally stupid right now. And upset. I got a used 7500 and it had a Michy ROM. I put the original WWE(I think?) ROM on it and that worked. Then I installed the AP 4.0 ROM and that worked fine. I then wanted to go back to the WWE ROM and when I tried installing it I get the SPL errors... I've tried installing all of the original WWE ROMS and none seemed to work and only gave back the error. Now I'm stuck at the colored striped screen and can't install a ROM or doing anything. I'm begging your help guys. I'll depost 10$ USD into anyone's paypal who can point me in the right direction and help me get the original WWE ROM back on it from htc's site. I'm thinking I need to use maybe MTTY to get it out of "bootloader"... But I don't know the commands... Thanks in advance. I've searched and tried a couple suggestions to no avail...
Check this thread out and this post in specific.
Downgrading
All Stock ROMS and many cooked ROMS can (only) be flashed with SPL 1.2.
The rest of the cooked ROMS (like AP4 and AP5) can (only) be flashed with SPL 3.5.
Once you have flashed a SPL 3.5 ROM you cannot easily go back to SPL 1.2 ROMS.
But there IS a way.
You can find a thread about the downgrading process here.
do you still need help ? I dont remember if you PM'd me, maybe not.
but yeah, just use the spl downgrader i made.

How do I change the radio version?

I am trying to get TNT .20273 working on my G4, but my radio version is 2.30.11 and I heard this is why its not working correctly. I downloaded the T-Mobile 2.19.11, but I have Cingular...will this make a difference? Do I flash this like any other ROM? Do I need to flash this before or after I flash a new ROM?
Radio Rom is independent of any Rom/OS,it can be flashed to any device version or Rom/OS working on the phone,it has its own protocols (GSM) and doesn't include any IPL/SPL (Bootloaders) so it can easily and safely be flashed to any wizard device.
Secondly,as you have a G4 device and its CID locked,it can not be upgraded to any wm6 rom like TNT,unless you either upgrade through SoftSPL or HardSPL.
Thirdly,where have you heard,since you have radio version is 2.30.11 and its cause for not getting the phone upgraded to TNT Rom ? As I said above,Radio Rom has got nothing to do with ROM/OS.Yes! you can flash Radio Rom 2.19.11,it doesn't matter if you have a Cingular.
Wm6 Roms like TNT will certainly flash regardless of which version of Radio Rom you have at the present
Hi guys,
This forums are just great!
Is there any "recommended" radio version? I've heard there are some old ones but I just wonder if upgrading it would really make any difference about the phone's reception.
I've noticed there are now two ways to flash new ROMs, hard and soft SLP, which one is best? My phone is already SIM unlocked but I want to load Slim Diamond WM 6.1.
Thanks in advance for your comments and help.
Well I got TNT .20273 "working", but I was always getting missed calls and texts and whenever I would soft reset I would get like 10 cannot load blah blah file and I read somewere it was because the radio version I had. Plus I heard 2.19.11 was the best with no dropped calls and such.
al0ns0 said:
Hi guys,
This forums are just great!
Is there any "recommended" radio version? I've heard there are some old ones but I just wonder if upgrading it would really make any difference about the phone's reception.
I've noticed there are now two ways to flash new ROMs, hard and soft SLP, which one is best? My phone is already SIM unlocked but I want to load Slim Diamond WM 6.1.
Thanks in advance for your comments and help.
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First determine which version is your phone,G3 or G4,its very important,coz method for flashing a rom is altogether different for both the devices.
HardSPL and SoftSPL are solely meant to flash a G4 device and shud not be done for a G3 phone,likewise CID unlocking method for a G3 phone,through lokiwiz02b or WST_4.2.2 Tool, shud not be carried out on a G4 device.
You need to do alot of reading to understand all these methods,So..... get going!!! or else you might end up 'Bricking" your phone
zabardast_1 said:
Radio Rom is independent of any Rom/OS,it can be flashed to any device version or Rom/OS working on the phone,it has its own protocols (GSM) and doesn't include any IPL/SPL (Bootloaders) so it can easily and safely be flashed to any wizard device.
Secondly,as you have a G4 device and its CID locked,it can not be upgraded to any wm6 rom like TNT,unless you either upgrade through SoftSPL or HardSPL.
Thirdly,where have you heard,since you have radio version is 2.30.11 and its cause for not getting the phone upgraded to TNT Rom ? As I said above,Radio Rom has got nothing to do with ROM/OS.Yes! you can flash Radio Rom 2.19.11,it doesn't matter if you have a Cingular.
Wm6 Roms like TNT will certainly flash regardless of which version of Radio Rom you have at the present
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ok so you said that. i'd like to say, i have a g3 with radio 02.25.11 and i'm fixin to use a multitude of different roms i've found here .. some with touch flow, others are this and that. but none of them say anything about radio roms or compatibility or dropped call count. so my question to you is, will this radio rom i have make a difference? am i going to have to change radio roms or no?
This is the G4 subforum
Radio 2.19.11 is recommended.
Thanks a lot zabardast_1!
I did the reading and the upgrade. Evertyhing went great and my wizard is now running WM 6.1 and working great.
I do have a follow up question though. I noticed there are different ROMs and the today screen looks different (the way the clock is shown, the icons available, etc).
Is there any way to change the way things look without changing the ROM?
Thanks again!

how to upgrade my HTC TYTN (Hermes)

i know this is probably somewhere and il get told off for asking this but i have searched and searched for the past 3 days now and just got a load of confusing stuff about Olipro Hard SPL 2.10 (which i have now worked out to be a boot loader..... i think....) but most the links i found go to a nonworking wiki page..... can some one give me a simple how to guide??? I am completely new to WM and flashing these devices so i have no idea what i am doing.....
thankyou for any help you can give me
edit: the main thing a actualy need is to use my 8GB microSD card... if there is a simple update i can put with WM5 then that would be perfect!!!!
edit 2: im running on Windows Mobile 5.0 with the Messaging and Security Feature Pack OS 5.1.461 (Build 15671.3.3.0) i think there is a more recent version of this but its not on the htc website..... and i cant find anything anywhere....
Hi,
I am also new to this forum and to using Winmo but to flash your rom to one of the cooked roms available on this site you just need to connect your Hermes to your pc and make sure that active sync is connected up. Make a backup of your data such as contacts, messages, etc. Then you need to run Olipro Hard SPL 2.10 as that will prevent a bad install from turning your Hermes into a brick. Find more info about that and download Hard-SPL-V7.zip at the bottom of the first post on following page.
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=296722
Once you have finished running Hard-SPL you can then run one of the Roms here. I am using Shamanix`s WM6 Ultimate v2 FINAL at the moment which is really nice.
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=359917
But there are loads of other really cool cooked roms which I will try out sometime. Next one I will try is CRCs Release 13.5 - Stable which looks very cool too.
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=387990
Hope that helps some. Cheers, t_t
hi and thanks for help!
How is it going to relate to unlocking? I have a cingular 8525 which I unlocked after a few days of struggle.
Will it be unlocked after the update or I have to unlock it again?
I have:
Code:
ROM: 2.15.502.3
ROM DATE: 04/09/07
RADIO v: 1.16.00.00
Protocol 32.53.7018.01h

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