I am trying to get TNT .20273 working on my G4, but my radio version is 2.30.11 and I heard this is why its not working correctly. I downloaded the T-Mobile 2.19.11, but I have Cingular...will this make a difference? Do I flash this like any other ROM? Do I need to flash this before or after I flash a new ROM?
Radio Rom is independent of any Rom/OS,it can be flashed to any device version or Rom/OS working on the phone,it has its own protocols (GSM) and doesn't include any IPL/SPL (Bootloaders) so it can easily and safely be flashed to any wizard device.
Secondly,as you have a G4 device and its CID locked,it can not be upgraded to any wm6 rom like TNT,unless you either upgrade through SoftSPL or HardSPL.
Thirdly,where have you heard,since you have radio version is 2.30.11 and its cause for not getting the phone upgraded to TNT Rom ? As I said above,Radio Rom has got nothing to do with ROM/OS.Yes! you can flash Radio Rom 2.19.11,it doesn't matter if you have a Cingular.
Wm6 Roms like TNT will certainly flash regardless of which version of Radio Rom you have at the present
Hi guys,
This forums are just great!
Is there any "recommended" radio version? I've heard there are some old ones but I just wonder if upgrading it would really make any difference about the phone's reception.
I've noticed there are now two ways to flash new ROMs, hard and soft SLP, which one is best? My phone is already SIM unlocked but I want to load Slim Diamond WM 6.1.
Thanks in advance for your comments and help.
Well I got TNT .20273 "working", but I was always getting missed calls and texts and whenever I would soft reset I would get like 10 cannot load blah blah file and I read somewere it was because the radio version I had. Plus I heard 2.19.11 was the best with no dropped calls and such.
al0ns0 said:
Hi guys,
This forums are just great!
Is there any "recommended" radio version? I've heard there are some old ones but I just wonder if upgrading it would really make any difference about the phone's reception.
I've noticed there are now two ways to flash new ROMs, hard and soft SLP, which one is best? My phone is already SIM unlocked but I want to load Slim Diamond WM 6.1.
Thanks in advance for your comments and help.
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First determine which version is your phone,G3 or G4,its very important,coz method for flashing a rom is altogether different for both the devices.
HardSPL and SoftSPL are solely meant to flash a G4 device and shud not be done for a G3 phone,likewise CID unlocking method for a G3 phone,through lokiwiz02b or WST_4.2.2 Tool, shud not be carried out on a G4 device.
You need to do alot of reading to understand all these methods,So..... get going!!! or else you might end up 'Bricking" your phone
zabardast_1 said:
Radio Rom is independent of any Rom/OS,it can be flashed to any device version or Rom/OS working on the phone,it has its own protocols (GSM) and doesn't include any IPL/SPL (Bootloaders) so it can easily and safely be flashed to any wizard device.
Secondly,as you have a G4 device and its CID locked,it can not be upgraded to any wm6 rom like TNT,unless you either upgrade through SoftSPL or HardSPL.
Thirdly,where have you heard,since you have radio version is 2.30.11 and its cause for not getting the phone upgraded to TNT Rom ? As I said above,Radio Rom has got nothing to do with ROM/OS.Yes! you can flash Radio Rom 2.19.11,it doesn't matter if you have a Cingular.
Wm6 Roms like TNT will certainly flash regardless of which version of Radio Rom you have at the present
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ok so you said that. i'd like to say, i have a g3 with radio 02.25.11 and i'm fixin to use a multitude of different roms i've found here .. some with touch flow, others are this and that. but none of them say anything about radio roms or compatibility or dropped call count. so my question to you is, will this radio rom i have make a difference? am i going to have to change radio roms or no?
This is the G4 subforum
Radio 2.19.11 is recommended.
Thanks a lot zabardast_1!
I did the reading and the upgrade. Evertyhing went great and my wizard is now running WM 6.1 and working great.
I do have a follow up question though. I noticed there are different ROMs and the today screen looks different (the way the clock is shown, the icons available, etc).
Is there any way to change the way things look without changing the ROM?
Thanks again!
Related
Just thought it was better to have one thread in regard to the locked radio included with the "RUU_Hermes_HTC_WWE_2.05.255.1_6275_1.34.00.10 _108 _Test.exe" update. I was one of the people who ran the full update and have now a locked radio bootloader If anyone has any suggestion or ideas on how to reflash the radio part could you post them here in one place!
Oh for what its worth I don't have any issues with this radio I would just like to be able to flash a different radio in the future
ratcom said:
Oh for what its worth I don't have any issues with this radio I would just like to be able to flash a different radio in the future
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You are able to flash different radio, in NBH format and with bootloader 1.09.
Also I recommend you to read this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=289173
Thanks pof, It all makes sense now! I must say coming from the wizard and universal I'm finding the hermes flashing process allot more hazardous! Theres seems to be allot more effort by HTC to lock the phones down! It’s a real shame as cooking roms and mixing and matching radios with rom is a lot of fun and keeps interest in the phones long after the newness as worn off.
Oh BTW I hope people in the same situation will stubble on this thread instead of posting another "help I cannot flash my radio" post.
1.27
Is 1.27 still the 'prefered' radio rom?
Thanks!I just meet the same problem.
is it juste rom radio ?
here
http://rapidshare.com/files/18091910/RUU_Radio_Only_1.34.00.10.exe
is it juste to flash radio rom ? i think yes but when i try it say that it will install
rom 1.23.163.5 ??.
normal ?
atonparis said:
here
http://rapidshare.com/files/18091910/RUU_Radio_Only_1.34.00.10.exe
is it juste to flash radio rom ? i think yes but when i try it say that it will install
rom 1.23.163.5 ??.
normal ?
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Yes that is mine. It is Radio only 1.34 using Des SSPL. I must have not changed the text file so SSPL reports 1.23, but after install the Radio ROM reports correctly and IS 1.34
is it true ?
Is 1.27 still the 'prefered' radio rom?
I prefer the 1.35.00.11 myself since its the absolute latest radio code available fttb. GPS functionality means that if the hardware mod works then this radio will control GPS as well.
Hi Guys
NEVER FLASHED THE PHONE BEFORE.
I am not really sure what I need to do up update my Vario 2 (UK) to the latest radio ROM 1.35.00.11, never done it before and really want to enable the GPS.
Hopefully if I get that done I will flash up to WMXL 0.10
Cheers for any advice.
If I flash 1.35.11, would my BL level change from 1.07 to 1.08?
Would I lose the ability to flash radio roms using mtty?
Simple
OMG!!! T-Mobile have released Official WM6 ROMS UK NE DE AT!!!
Thread
There are a lot of people who keep asking for T-Mobile ROMs I was one of them. So this morning after someone else asking I have decided to post this in the hope it can be referred to!
CURRENTLY AVAILABLE DUMPED T-Mobile ROMs
UK ROM
UK ROM - With CustomRUU v4.3 felt kind so updated it for you all!
UK ROM - Windows Mobile 6 Test 3.60 - Radio 1.50
DUTCH ROM
CROATIAN ROM
GERMAN ROM
Edit from Sleuth255: We are not allowed to host ROMs here. Please post to rapidshare or some other site then link. I must remove these ROMs from our FTP due to an edict from m$ legal. Sorry
The UK one appears to have been built however I have not tested it, if someone has used it in the past please let me know.
I have not checked any of the others, if people have used them and they are built please contact me and I shall update this accordingly.
Please can someone update the Wiki for the UK ROM, thanks.
CURRENTLY AVAILABLE SHIPPED T-Mobile ROMs
HUNGARIAN
GERMAN
SHIPPED ROMS HERE
If there are anymore T-Mobile Shipped ROMS I have not mentioned please msg me and I will update accordingly.
Any chance of this thread being sticked?
Thanks, I think this is very helpfull.
Great! Always usefull when you need to restore your device
Has anyone tested if any of these ROMs flash properly.. for me it would be the Dutchversion then... But I can not test right now can not have my phone broken down. Once Kaizer is out I am going to buy that one and then I could test, but would be nice to know if these dumped ROMs work
Unfortunately I do not know, I haven't even tested the UK version as I am not sure if it will work, however I did update the RUU.
Shame we cannot emulate the firmware install!
The T-Mob UK dumped ROM isn't quite right - the w'n'w home page doesn't work properly.
Minor thing but, one of the first things I tested
I dumped my friends ROM the other day. I'm currently working on building it and testing it - will let you know when it's done
Cheers,
Smiffy.
Hmmm...humble pie - lovely
Well, after flashing the ROM i dumped the other day, I had exactly the same thing with IE.
It took me about 3 seconds to realise it must be because the extROM had been flashed by one of the WM6 ROMs I had been using in the past.
As it turns out, this is the case so I can confirm that if you have the same issue, download the extROM dumo from the wiki (from this page) and delete the current contents of your extROM and copy the downloaded one back to it. Hard reset, and voila - everything back the way T-Mobile shipped (apart from Radio ROM, IPL\SPL etc...) but WTH ;-)
Smiffy.
Lordsmiff said:
As it turns out, this is the case so I can confirm that if you have the same issue, download the extROM dumo from the wiki (from this page) and delete the current contents of your extROM and copy the downloaded one back to it. Hard reset, and voila - everything back the way T-Mobile shipped (apart from Radio ROM, IPL\SPL etc...) but WTH ;-)
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How can I do that?
trapper said:
How can I do that?
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Trapper,
I assume you mean how can you put the correct Extended ROM onto your device? If I understand this correctly, the ROMs mentioned in Jygar's first post are the original main ROM but the Extended ROM is in fact from a Windows Mobile 6 ROM (I do not believe that flashing a ROM will affect the Extended ROM - the problem is that the re-flashed (downgraded) WM5 ROM is starting the Extended ROM installation after the basic OS install (as normal) but that Extended ROM is still a WM6 one.
The page that is linked to includes many Extended ROMs from many countries and devices - one of them an original T-Mobile ROM (here) and if you were to unlock/unhide and mount your Extended ROM you would be able to delete the incorrect (WM6) ones and then paste in these original Extended ROM files.
The Extended ROM files are executed during a hard reset after the OS has been installed - details of how this works are within this forum. I am not sure that you need to do a hard reset but it all depends on whether you stopped the device completing a normal (complete) install. After a hard reset the device will start to execute the Extended ROM files/.cabs and if you stop that with a soft reset as soon as it starts then the device will re-boot with a basic WM build (with no service provider fixes/updates/customisations/settings)
If this is all explaining what you already know then sorry but your question posted is rather open... Hope this helps
ExtROM.nb attached Just put it into an NBH and flash
@tony.wheeler - What was the original radio version of your Vario II? I'm in the process of creating a complete upgrade to restore UK MDA Vario II's to their 'out of the box' state with the original ROMs (IPL, SPL, MainSplash, SubSplash, OS, Radio ExtROM)
Phil
eek, think it was 1.03?
[edit]Have done a search it appears it is 1.05!
only problem is this is HTC_BOOT 0106 and most ppl are now patched to 0108 so I would have thought we cannot downgrade our radio rom.
TBH 1.43 is the best radio rom out and i cannot say a bad word against it. I have only eva updated my radio rom and since the radio update have not had a problem with the origional t-mob os.
Hehe, yeah i found out it was 1.05 as well. Oh well, I'll use 1.07 in my NBH. I now have a complete ROM backup (IPL, SPL, GSM, OS, MainSplash, SubSplash, ExtROM) to revert back to should anything ever happen which means I would need to claim on the warranty.
Phil
The dutch rom seems to be in *.raw files. How can i open of re compile it?
jm012a9749 can you upload it?
RaDeNRFX said:
The dutch rom seems to be in *.raw files. How can i open of re compile it?
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Same question here.
Does anyone know how to use the .raw files...?
as its all t-mobile users on this thread, what radios are people finding the best? UK
Read, read, read...
wensing said:
Same question here.
Does anyone know how to use the .raw files...?
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http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_HowtoReconstruct
fil said:
as its all t-mobile users on this thread, what radios are people finding the best? UK
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I keep loosing connection with the 1.50 that came with the WM6 test ROM, and also falling down to GSM even though I'm in a good 3G reception area.
Didn't seem to notice these problems before. I was running Radio 1.48 onto of the old radio.
jm012a9749 said:
Hehe, yeah i found out it was 1.05 as well. Oh well, I'll use 1.07 in my NBH. I now have a complete ROM backup (IPL, SPL, GSM, OS, MainSplash, SubSplash, ExtROM) to revert back to should anything ever happen which means I would need to claim on the warranty.
Phil
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Any chance of you posting this backup ROM? There are many of us who would be very keen to have this as a safety net for when we have to return our Vario 2s under warranty.
twelve47 said:
I keep loosing connection with the 1.50 that came with the WM6 test ROM, and also falling down to GSM even though I'm in a good 3G reception area.
Didn't seem to notice these problems before. I was running Radio 1.48 onto of the old radio.
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I too am running with Radio 1.50, after a short-lived update to WM6. I have had no problems at all with 2g or 3g, steady as a rock.
Hey all, this is NOT a "howz to git to Windowze Mobiil 6.!!!!" post, but rather a question about "upgrading" a ROM. I am currently running TNT's Windows Mobile 6.1 Proffesional ROM, and I have just learned that there is any upgrade to that particular ROM, and would like to know if I can safely upgrade to it from WM6.1, or do I have to downgrade back to the Love ROM and then upgrade again. Heres my device history if it helps:
Device=Cingular 8125, SIM Unlocked(using Lokwiz 3.0)
Original ROM=Cingular WM5.0
Current ROM=TNT WM 6.1 V1
Heres how I upgraded it originally:
Got it home, used the HardSPL method to make my IPL/SPL 2.26.XXXX(so my device IS a G4), tried to upgrade to WM6.1...no luck. Discovered that you have to upgrade to the LOVE ROM first, so I tried that...again, no luck. So I then used the SoftSPL.exe to temporairily CID unlock my device I guess, and then proceeded to upgrade to the LOVE ROM, then to the TNT WM 6.1 V1 ROM.
Now, my device is working fine, and I would just like to know if I CAN upgrade to the new V2 ROM, and if what I did to get this far is correct. ANy help is appreciated!
ashasaur said:
Hey all, this is NOT a "howz to git to Windowze Mobiil 6.!!!!" post, but rather a question about "upgrading" a ROM. I am currently running TNT's Windows Mobile 6.1 Proffesional ROM, and I have just learned that there is any upgrade to that particular ROM, and would like to know if I can safely upgrade to it from WM6.1, or do I have to downgrade back to the Love ROM and then upgrade again. Heres my device history if it helps:
Device=Cingular 8125, SIM Unlocked(using Lokwiz 3.0)
Original ROM=Cingular WM5.0
Current ROM=TNT WM 6.1 V1
Heres how I upgraded it originally:
Got it home, used the HardSPL method to make my IPL/SPL 2.26.XXXX(so my device IS a G4), tried to upgrade to WM6.1...no luck. Discovered that you have to upgrade to the LOVE ROM first, so I tried that...again, no luck. So I then used the SoftSPL.exe to temporairily CID unlock my device I guess, and then proceeded to upgrade to the LOVE ROM, then to the TNT WM 6.1 V1 ROM.
Now, my device is working fine, and I would just like to know if I CAN upgrade to the new V2 ROM, and if what I did to get this far is correct. ANy help is appreciated!
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My opinion is that flashing the LOVE ROM was a unnecessary step. I never do anything like that before changing ROMs (flashing a stock ROM and the like)
That almost answers your question except that having used SoftSPL your CID block is still locked and SPL knows it so you must either:
1- Flash SoftSPL before flashing the TNT
2- Flash the HardSPL to not worrying about it ever again when wanting to change ROMs (my option - if i had a G4)
hope it's clear
cheers
PS:
Use WST to check if you SPL is HardSPL'ed or not with "Device Info" option
"G4 SAFE" What does that mean???
mestrini said:
My opinion is that flashing the LOVE ROM was a unnecessary step. I never do anything like that before changing ROMs (flashing a stock ROM and the like)
That almost answers your question except that having used SoftSPL your CID block is still locked and SPL knows it so you must either:
1- Flash SoftSPL before flashing the TNT
2- Flash the HardSPL to not worrying about it ever again when wanting to change ROMs (my option - if i had a G4)
hope it's clear
cheers
PS:
Use WST to check if you SPL is HardSPL'ed or not with "Device Info" option
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I have a question about What G4 safe?
I uploaded a rom with HTCLogo.nb+Splash.nb+OS.nb (I assume that because there is no IPL/SPL it should be safe for G4????)
S.V.I said:
I have a question about What G4 safe?
I uploaded a rom with HTCLogo.nb+Splash.nb+OS.nb (I assume that because there is no IPL/SPL it should be safe for G4????)
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Absolutely right m8
As you can see from the pics only the IPL and SPL have versions depending on the DOC chip (G3 3.08 in this case )
cheers
mestrini said:
Absolutely right m8
As you can see from the pics only the IPL and SPL have versions depending on the DOC chip (G3 3.08 in this case )
cheers
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Thanx So much!
I just bought a used 8125. The device was suppose to be standard, but when it arrived it had WM 6.1 custom rom from newbie1221. I also noticed that it is a G4.
IPL 2.1.0001
SPL 2.1.01ip
So is it safe to assume the device is CID unlocked?
Is it safe to flash This Romas it doesn't include ipl/spl?
How will the UK radio work since I'm in the US? My current Radio version is 2.25.11
How can I tell if it's wwe?
It says it's WM 6.1 but I'm confused by this
5.2.19199 build 19199.1.0.0 (AKU 1.0 )
OS: 11.0.1.0 << as you know, 11.x.x.x is for TNT Series or based on
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Does this mean it's not 6.1?
Please be patient with me it's been a while since I've had WM device. The wiki helped me a lot.
Heya man, welcome to the fold....you can tell if your device has WM6.1 on it by going to START->Settings->System->About, and at the top is will say OS:Windows Mobile 5.0/6/6.1, depending on what you have. Since your IPL/SPL is already Olip'ed, then yes, your device IS indeed CID unlocked....but if you havent done so already, I would download the excellent Wizard Tool availible up here at XDA-Dev and SIM unlock your device aswell. To answer your other question, you should be fine with flashing a different rom, as long as it DOES NOT contain an Extended ROM partition OR IPL/SPL.
No, G4 is always CID locked, regardless you used HardSPL or not (HardSPL only tricks the RUU program, you can always check the CID lock status using WST)
Yes, it's safe to flash any ROMs that doesn't include IPL and SPL.
For the Radio, all Radio ROMs has support for all GSM modes supported by Wizard hardware, just try to see if it gives a better reception.
TNT roms are always WWE (you can see the screenshots, it is always WWE if it is an English ROM)
5.2.19xxx is WM6.1 ROM. TNT used its own versioning in ROM, so don't count on that.
So all that HardSPL'ing a device does is trick the RUU? Didnt know that, I thought that it actually "unlocked" the phone, like we do over in the excalibur forums lol
starkwong is absolutely correct and I endorse it!
Thanks for all the help. I downloaded WST it shows it was Sim unlocked but I have no way of testing. WST shows that the phone is HardSPL. When I try to flash any Roms I get a Error 300 message. So I used the RUU MUN worked perfectly. The phone is my wifes & she is very happy. Thanks again for all the help. The Wizard may be old but it runs great.
I have an unlocked fuze.Today i want to install winmo 6.5.Can some one please tell me all the things i need.I have done a search,but i need directions that are simple to understand.Is there anyone that can walk me through this.Help please just an averege guy,im not a pro phone guy
Then you must have searched badly..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=448008
i think i already have spl on my phone if so can i just flash the rom.if i flash a new radio will i get better reception,my phone wont work in the house
Flashing and SPL
If you have an unlocked Fuze, it does not mean that you have installed the hard Spl. Unlocked means that you are able to use your phone on any network, and you have the ability to flash non-raphael radios to your device. If you would like to flash a 6.5 rom to your Fuze, you need to flash the hard spl first, choose a rom, and flash your chosen rom. As far as signal goes, some roms work well with certain radios. Read the forums for the rom that you choose and see what kind of radio the chef recommends. Another thing that I can recommend is to go to the HTC website and take a look at the official update for the Fuze. This is a rom and a radio package that in my experience made my phone work much better than before. The update to the radio boosted my signal, and it unlocked the gps to work with any program since a stock Fuze gps works only with the At&t navigation program. All in all, the best advice I can give you is read up on the xda forums. The contributors on this forum are amazing and have put countless hours into turning our stock (crappy) Raphaels into real i-phone killers.
when its on blue,green,red boot screen it says spl 1.90. olinix
if you've flashed hard-spl, then you are ready to flash a rom.
yes, changing your radio could possibly result in improved reception. radios have different results for everyone and depends largely on where you live.
deadcpu already gave you the thread that has all the information you need. read it.