Hey all, this is NOT a "howz to git to Windowze Mobiil 6.!!!!" post, but rather a question about "upgrading" a ROM. I am currently running TNT's Windows Mobile 6.1 Proffesional ROM, and I have just learned that there is any upgrade to that particular ROM, and would like to know if I can safely upgrade to it from WM6.1, or do I have to downgrade back to the Love ROM and then upgrade again. Heres my device history if it helps:
Device=Cingular 8125, SIM Unlocked(using Lokwiz 3.0)
Original ROM=Cingular WM5.0
Current ROM=TNT WM 6.1 V1
Heres how I upgraded it originally:
Got it home, used the HardSPL method to make my IPL/SPL 2.26.XXXX(so my device IS a G4), tried to upgrade to WM6.1...no luck. Discovered that you have to upgrade to the LOVE ROM first, so I tried that...again, no luck. So I then used the SoftSPL.exe to temporairily CID unlock my device I guess, and then proceeded to upgrade to the LOVE ROM, then to the TNT WM 6.1 V1 ROM.
Now, my device is working fine, and I would just like to know if I CAN upgrade to the new V2 ROM, and if what I did to get this far is correct. ANy help is appreciated!
ashasaur said:
Hey all, this is NOT a "howz to git to Windowze Mobiil 6.!!!!" post, but rather a question about "upgrading" a ROM. I am currently running TNT's Windows Mobile 6.1 Proffesional ROM, and I have just learned that there is any upgrade to that particular ROM, and would like to know if I can safely upgrade to it from WM6.1, or do I have to downgrade back to the Love ROM and then upgrade again. Heres my device history if it helps:
Device=Cingular 8125, SIM Unlocked(using Lokwiz 3.0)
Original ROM=Cingular WM5.0
Current ROM=TNT WM 6.1 V1
Heres how I upgraded it originally:
Got it home, used the HardSPL method to make my IPL/SPL 2.26.XXXX(so my device IS a G4), tried to upgrade to WM6.1...no luck. Discovered that you have to upgrade to the LOVE ROM first, so I tried that...again, no luck. So I then used the SoftSPL.exe to temporairily CID unlock my device I guess, and then proceeded to upgrade to the LOVE ROM, then to the TNT WM 6.1 V1 ROM.
Now, my device is working fine, and I would just like to know if I CAN upgrade to the new V2 ROM, and if what I did to get this far is correct. ANy help is appreciated!
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My opinion is that flashing the LOVE ROM was a unnecessary step. I never do anything like that before changing ROMs (flashing a stock ROM and the like)
That almost answers your question except that having used SoftSPL your CID block is still locked and SPL knows it so you must either:
1- Flash SoftSPL before flashing the TNT
2- Flash the HardSPL to not worrying about it ever again when wanting to change ROMs (my option - if i had a G4)
hope it's clear
cheers
PS:
Use WST to check if you SPL is HardSPL'ed or not with "Device Info" option
"G4 SAFE" What does that mean???
mestrini said:
My opinion is that flashing the LOVE ROM was a unnecessary step. I never do anything like that before changing ROMs (flashing a stock ROM and the like)
That almost answers your question except that having used SoftSPL your CID block is still locked and SPL knows it so you must either:
1- Flash SoftSPL before flashing the TNT
2- Flash the HardSPL to not worrying about it ever again when wanting to change ROMs (my option - if i had a G4)
hope it's clear
cheers
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Use WST to check if you SPL is HardSPL'ed or not with "Device Info" option
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I have a question about What G4 safe?
I uploaded a rom with HTCLogo.nb+Splash.nb+OS.nb (I assume that because there is no IPL/SPL it should be safe for G4????)
S.V.I said:
I have a question about What G4 safe?
I uploaded a rom with HTCLogo.nb+Splash.nb+OS.nb (I assume that because there is no IPL/SPL it should be safe for G4????)
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Absolutely right m8
As you can see from the pics only the IPL and SPL have versions depending on the DOC chip (G3 3.08 in this case )
cheers
mestrini said:
Absolutely right m8
As you can see from the pics only the IPL and SPL have versions depending on the DOC chip (G3 3.08 in this case )
cheers
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Thanx So much!
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hi guys..i have a qtek 9100 g4 unlocked by hard spl...can you tell me what means downgrade before upgrade and how can i do it because wm5 contains ipl/spl?daca imi poate explica cineva in romaneste ar fii perfect /thanks !
This downgrade means reverting to your stock ROM. You stock ROM can be flashed to your device. (However you should remove HardSPL first because I don't know if it will cause RUU to treat your device as a G3).
However if this is your first time of HardSPL and you are already using stock ROM (i.e. never flashed), you can go ahead to flash WM6.
sorry...misunderstanding
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This downgrade means reverting to your stock ROM. You stock ROM can be flashed to your device. (However you should remove HardSPL first because I don't know if it will cause RUU to treat your device as a G3).
However if this is your first time of HardSPL and you are already using stock ROM (i.e. never flashed), you can go ahead to flash WM6.
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1.i already patched with hard spl and i have a wm6 rom but before change wm6 roms i must downgrade to wm5 but i don`t know what is my old wm5rom and i suppose(but not sure)it was in german language so if i want to remove hard spl i must know for sure my old rom or there is another way to do that?
2.i don`t understand why i must downgrade everytime before upgrade to a new rom ,so if you enlight me i will thank you very much.
3.do you think the hard spl solution for ``unlocking``g4 wizards will brick my device?
....regards..
I want to back to the original rom too but im not sure i have already a cid unlocked g4 o2 mini s but the strange thing its when im in device info it says its wizard100 but im sure its a g4 so thats matters? thanks for your help.
so its there a problem if i go back to original o2minis iplspl or i have problems because in my device is wiz100 at the back of the battery said it is wiz200 what can i do please help.
I just bought a used 8125. The device was suppose to be standard, but when it arrived it had WM 6.1 custom rom from newbie1221. I also noticed that it is a G4.
IPL 2.1.0001
SPL 2.1.01ip
So is it safe to assume the device is CID unlocked?
Is it safe to flash This Romas it doesn't include ipl/spl?
How will the UK radio work since I'm in the US? My current Radio version is 2.25.11
How can I tell if it's wwe?
It says it's WM 6.1 but I'm confused by this
5.2.19199 build 19199.1.0.0 (AKU 1.0 )
OS: 11.0.1.0 << as you know, 11.x.x.x is for TNT Series or based on
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Does this mean it's not 6.1?
Please be patient with me it's been a while since I've had WM device. The wiki helped me a lot.
Heya man, welcome to the fold....you can tell if your device has WM6.1 on it by going to START->Settings->System->About, and at the top is will say OS:Windows Mobile 5.0/6/6.1, depending on what you have. Since your IPL/SPL is already Olip'ed, then yes, your device IS indeed CID unlocked....but if you havent done so already, I would download the excellent Wizard Tool availible up here at XDA-Dev and SIM unlock your device aswell. To answer your other question, you should be fine with flashing a different rom, as long as it DOES NOT contain an Extended ROM partition OR IPL/SPL.
No, G4 is always CID locked, regardless you used HardSPL or not (HardSPL only tricks the RUU program, you can always check the CID lock status using WST)
Yes, it's safe to flash any ROMs that doesn't include IPL and SPL.
For the Radio, all Radio ROMs has support for all GSM modes supported by Wizard hardware, just try to see if it gives a better reception.
TNT roms are always WWE (you can see the screenshots, it is always WWE if it is an English ROM)
5.2.19xxx is WM6.1 ROM. TNT used its own versioning in ROM, so don't count on that.
So all that HardSPL'ing a device does is trick the RUU? Didnt know that, I thought that it actually "unlocked" the phone, like we do over in the excalibur forums lol
starkwong is absolutely correct and I endorse it!
Thanks for all the help. I downloaded WST it shows it was Sim unlocked but I have no way of testing. WST shows that the phone is HardSPL. When I try to flash any Roms I get a Error 300 message. So I used the RUU MUN worked perfectly. The phone is my wifes & she is very happy. Thanks again for all the help. The Wizard may be old but it runs great.
I am trying to get TNT .20273 working on my G4, but my radio version is 2.30.11 and I heard this is why its not working correctly. I downloaded the T-Mobile 2.19.11, but I have Cingular...will this make a difference? Do I flash this like any other ROM? Do I need to flash this before or after I flash a new ROM?
Radio Rom is independent of any Rom/OS,it can be flashed to any device version or Rom/OS working on the phone,it has its own protocols (GSM) and doesn't include any IPL/SPL (Bootloaders) so it can easily and safely be flashed to any wizard device.
Secondly,as you have a G4 device and its CID locked,it can not be upgraded to any wm6 rom like TNT,unless you either upgrade through SoftSPL or HardSPL.
Thirdly,where have you heard,since you have radio version is 2.30.11 and its cause for not getting the phone upgraded to TNT Rom ? As I said above,Radio Rom has got nothing to do with ROM/OS.Yes! you can flash Radio Rom 2.19.11,it doesn't matter if you have a Cingular.
Wm6 Roms like TNT will certainly flash regardless of which version of Radio Rom you have at the present
Hi guys,
This forums are just great!
Is there any "recommended" radio version? I've heard there are some old ones but I just wonder if upgrading it would really make any difference about the phone's reception.
I've noticed there are now two ways to flash new ROMs, hard and soft SLP, which one is best? My phone is already SIM unlocked but I want to load Slim Diamond WM 6.1.
Thanks in advance for your comments and help.
Well I got TNT .20273 "working", but I was always getting missed calls and texts and whenever I would soft reset I would get like 10 cannot load blah blah file and I read somewere it was because the radio version I had. Plus I heard 2.19.11 was the best with no dropped calls and such.
al0ns0 said:
Hi guys,
This forums are just great!
Is there any "recommended" radio version? I've heard there are some old ones but I just wonder if upgrading it would really make any difference about the phone's reception.
I've noticed there are now two ways to flash new ROMs, hard and soft SLP, which one is best? My phone is already SIM unlocked but I want to load Slim Diamond WM 6.1.
Thanks in advance for your comments and help.
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First determine which version is your phone,G3 or G4,its very important,coz method for flashing a rom is altogether different for both the devices.
HardSPL and SoftSPL are solely meant to flash a G4 device and shud not be done for a G3 phone,likewise CID unlocking method for a G3 phone,through lokiwiz02b or WST_4.2.2 Tool, shud not be carried out on a G4 device.
You need to do alot of reading to understand all these methods,So..... get going!!! or else you might end up 'Bricking" your phone
zabardast_1 said:
Radio Rom is independent of any Rom/OS,it can be flashed to any device version or Rom/OS working on the phone,it has its own protocols (GSM) and doesn't include any IPL/SPL (Bootloaders) so it can easily and safely be flashed to any wizard device.
Secondly,as you have a G4 device and its CID locked,it can not be upgraded to any wm6 rom like TNT,unless you either upgrade through SoftSPL or HardSPL.
Thirdly,where have you heard,since you have radio version is 2.30.11 and its cause for not getting the phone upgraded to TNT Rom ? As I said above,Radio Rom has got nothing to do with ROM/OS.Yes! you can flash Radio Rom 2.19.11,it doesn't matter if you have a Cingular.
Wm6 Roms like TNT will certainly flash regardless of which version of Radio Rom you have at the present
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ok so you said that. i'd like to say, i have a g3 with radio 02.25.11 and i'm fixin to use a multitude of different roms i've found here .. some with touch flow, others are this and that. but none of them say anything about radio roms or compatibility or dropped call count. so my question to you is, will this radio rom i have make a difference? am i going to have to change radio roms or no?
This is the G4 subforum
Radio 2.19.11 is recommended.
Thanks a lot zabardast_1!
I did the reading and the upgrade. Evertyhing went great and my wizard is now running WM 6.1 and working great.
I do have a follow up question though. I noticed there are different ROMs and the today screen looks different (the way the clock is shown, the icons available, etc).
Is there any way to change the way things look without changing the ROM?
Thanks again!
FOR THE NON EXPERT USERS like me this is not a tutorial it's a question i wanna know if it's possible , cuz it's logicly possible
G4 G4 G4
i wannted to mention that i think from reading that the soft spl and hard spl is the same but the soft spl every time i flash i have to use and i don't think that it is hard or boring so
tell me experts what will happen to my G4 k-jam if i did this
copy the nk.nbf from the RADIO rom and put it in the soft spl folder like we do in Regular Roms to flash it
the nk.nbf from the rom only has a gsm i checked no spl or ipl or extrom or os or splash nothin just gsm
so what will happen to my runing rom TNT 19209 pro
i wanna know if it will addition the gsm only or it will brick my Wizard
Its probablly going to corrupt your current ROM. It wont brick your Wizard exactly, but youy wont be able to start your device....thats what happened to me when I tried something similiar anyways.
ashasaur said:
Its probablly going to corrupt your current ROM. It wont brick your Wizard exactly, but youy wont be able to start your device....thats what happened to me when I tried something similiar anyways.
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thx for respond in my stupid posts and i'm sure u think that i'm just noob and don't accept any new ideas my proplem that i just want to leave my spl and ipl the way they r
by the way
i can solve my proplem by flashing an imate official rom but i'm afraid to do that
cuz it have all spl and ipl and os and every thing and waht i should do to flash just open the exe downloaded file and proceed or what
a stupid question as useual da the official roms require a cid unlocked device in g4 or what and is there is any way that the official rom can be harmfull to my g4 Wizard
if this official is great for me and not harmfull it has a radio version that works fine with me after i flash the official rom i 'll soft spl to tnt again but this time with the old radio that works for me
what do u say ?
Yes, you can use SoftSPL to flash a new GSM ROM to your phone.
No, there's no way an official ROM can hurt your phone. They check your hardware and flash appropriately. For best results, stick to the original provider's ROM.
There's no reason to be concerned about leaving your IPL SPL unmodified. Even if you use HardSPL, you can still revert back to an official ROM, after removing HardSPL.
If you do a HardSPL, you can flash pretty much anything that doesn't include IPL/SPL, including new boot screens, new radios, and almost every recent ROM in the Wizard Mobile 6 thread.
The phone must be CID-locked to flash an official ROM. If you used HardSPL, you would have to remove it (read the sticky-ed thread in the top of the G4 board) before going back to an OEM ROM. If you try to flash a G4 with HardSPL in place, you risk bricking it.
The newer TNT-based ROMs do not (and should not) include a radio as part of the package.
Don't use older ROMs, they are less reliable, and more likely to brick a G4 than newer ROMs are. Use this thread to choose a good ROM after you flash back to the OEM ROM and HardSPL your phone. If you like TNT, you should probably use one of these versions.
Myrddin Wyllt said:
No, there's no way an official ROM can hurt your phone. They check your hardware and flash appropriately. For best results, stick to the original provider's ROM.
Don't use older ROMs, they are less reliable, and more likely to brick a G4 than newer ROMs are. Use this thread to choose a good ROM after you flash back to the OEM ROM and HardSPL your phone. If you like TNT, you should probably use one of these versions.
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Be carefull!
There are official pre-G4 ROMs, they do not contain a G4 IPL/SPL therefore a pre-G4 (G3-only) official ROM most certainly will brick your G4 device.
Several members have reported bricks due to this!
BTW soft-SPL was designed to flash anything, including Radio.
the-equinoxe said:
Be carefull!
There are official pre-G4 ROMs, they do not contain a G4 IPL/SPL therefore a pre-G4 (G3-only) official ROM most certainly will brick your G4 device.
Several members have reported bricks due to this!
BTW soft-SPL was designed to flash anything, including Radio.
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thx for ur answer and help but let me ask u how i'll be sure that my official rom is good enough for the g4 it has spl and ipl and spl and ipl 2 and alot of things the one i have and it's close to my old official rom on my k-jam before i flash to tnt 19209
and when i flash the gsm radio with soft spl is my rom will be corrupted ???
btw the nk.nbf for he radio has only gsm on it
thx for help
X_Blue said:
thx for ur answer and help but let me ask u how i'll be sure that my official rom is good enough for the g4 it has spl and ipl and spl and ipl 2 and alot of things the one i have and it's close to my old official rom on my k-jam before i flash to tnt 19209
and when i flash the gsm radio with soft spl is my rom will be corrupted ???
btw the nk.nbf for he radio has only gsm on it
thx for help
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Just remove all the IPL/SPLs from the ROM.
No problem in flashing an stripped ROM.
Radio only flashing won't result in a corrupted ROM, but why with soft SPL?
Just flash hard SPL and feel the freedom of flashing with a RUU without using the sspl.
the-equinoxe said:
Just remove all the IPL/SPLs from the ROM.
No problem in flashing an stripped ROM.
Radio only flashing won't result in a corrupted ROM, but why with soft SPL?
Just flash hard SPL and feel the freedom of flashing with a RUU without using the sspl.
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i just like the soft spl strategy and i'm not tired from it
so now i'm going to put the nk.nbf in the soft spl folder and proceed in everything like the the redular rom flash and god be with us
btw did u flashed a rom that has gsm only before with soft spl ?
i'm so nervous cuz it's my only ppc i don't wanna lose it
i appreciate ur help alot
X_Blue said:
i just like the soft spl strategy and i'm not tired from it
so now i'm going to put the nk.nbf in the soft spl folder and proceed in everything like the the redular rom flash and god be with us
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You better use your own brain rather than relying to an invisble friend, but yeah, the procedure should work.
btw did u flashed a rom that has gsm only before with soft spl ?
i'm so nervous cuz it's my only ppc i don't wanna lose it
i appreciate ur help alot
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I know the feeling!
I was really nervous when I first tried to reflash the bootloaders, however radio and OS ROMs aren't critical.
If the bootloader still works in good order you should be able to recover from almost any mishap.
Good luck!
Myrddin Wyllt said:
Yes, you can use SoftSPL to flash a new GSM ROM to your phone.
No, there's no way an official ROM can hurt your phone. They check your hardware and flash appropriately. For best results, stick to the original provider's ROM.
There's no reason to be concerned about leaving your IPL SPL unmodified. Even if you use HardSPL, you can still revert back to an official ROM, after removing HardSPL.
If you do a HardSPL, you can flash pretty much anything that doesn't include IPL/SPL, including new boot screens, new radios, and almost every recent ROM in the Wizard Mobile 6 thread.
The phone must be CID-locked to flash an official ROM. If you used HardSPL, you would have to remove it (read the sticky-ed thread in the top of the G4 board) before going back to an OEM ROM. If you try to flash a G4 with HardSPL in place, you risk bricking it.
The newer TNT-based ROMs do not (and should not) include a radio as part of the package.
Don't use older ROMs, they are less reliable, and more likely to brick a G4 than newer ROMs are. Use this thread to choose a good ROM after you flash back to the OEM ROM and HardSPL your phone. If you like TNT, you should probably use one of these versions.
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thXXXX for respond and answer
the-equinoxe said:
You better use your own brain rather than relying to an invisble friend, but yeah, the procedure should work.
I know the feeling!
I was really nervous when I first tried to reflash the bootloaders, however radio and OS ROMs aren't critical.
If the bootloader still works in good order you should be able to recover from almost any mishap.
Good luck!
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thx for the help alot i'll try and i'll put my experiance in the forum to help others
WORKED NO ProBlem AT ALL AND MY PROBLEMS SOLVED THX THX GOD THX ALL RESPONDERS
Hi everybody,
i get a problem when i tried to flash my second HD2, flashed the first one without problems
i searched for spl 3.03 and i found other threads saying that we have to flash with stock ROM but the serial number doesn't match with the mskip list...
S/N is : HT01KNW03882 is there anyone who can tell me it 's from where ?
i bought it to a guy who get it with a contract it's under Orange french ROM and i'm in france so i get this french ROM:Leo_HTC_FRA_1.43.406.2_Radio_Signed_15.26.50.07U_2.04.50.22_2
but i get this message error during a sd card method (card was formatted in FAT32), after showing me the bootloader screen, in the grey back :00028002
Not allow
and then it returns in the tri color screen
sorry for the bad english and thanks in advance
Hello sir, honestly it isn't complicated.
You mention that it is a device who came from a contract under Orange.
So it is a Orange branded device.
So conclusion; you need this ROM: RUU_Leo_S_Orange_FR-B2B_3.14.73.2 Download!
And for your info; I have verified it with your S/N
thanks for reply !
this is the ROM i had already and the only one i can get from HTC whith the S/N you'r right but i tried that and it do not change spl
i just flashed it now with SSPL and a 1.43 french stock ROM but i just want HSPL on it
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thanks for reply !
this is the ROM i had already and the only one i can get from HTC whith the S/N you'r right but i tried that and it do not change spl
i just flashed it now with SSPL and a 1.43 french stock ROM but i just want HSPL on it
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Mate, Im confused..
You said you have that rom installed/flashed but didnt change the SPL?
As I know, the stock rom version 3.14 contains SPL 3.03.0000. So, your hd2 should have had that spl now.
Try to check again in case you missed something.
Also please keep in mind that SPL 3.03.0000 are not compatible with HSPL at the moment. It will cause you trouble if you install HSPL over SPL 3.03
Cheers
silverwind said:
Mate, Im confused..
You said you have that rom installed/flashed but didnt change the SPL?
As I know, the stock rom version 3.14 contains SPL 3.03.0000. So, your hd2 should have had that spl now.
Try to check again in case you missed something.
Also please keep in mind that SPL 3.03.0000 are not compatible with HSPL at the moment. It will cause you trouble if you install HSPL over SPL 3.03
Cheers
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that's the ROM i had when i get the phone and the only one i can get via HTC and the spl was only 3.03.0000 and do not change with flashing this ROM
now i have 1.43.french ROM and still this $&!รน^* 3.03.000 spl
ok i have successfully flashed the device with darkstone SuperRAM FroYo v1.5 using jayceooi's video because i saw the spl 3.03 in it
abdelQouddouss said:
thanks for reply !
this is the ROM i had already and the only one i can get from HTC whith the S/N you'r right but i tried that and it do not change spl
i just flashed it now with SSPL and a 1.43 french stock ROM but i just want HSPL on it
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First of all I'm confused, If you already have this ROM; way your question about that you card find your stock ROM based on your S/N???
And secondly, way would you install stock ROM over SSPL??? Just use the normal installation proses. But in case you have HSPL on your device, remove it first. (HSPL isn't compatible with stock ROM 3.14)
was afraid when i saw that no S/N was like mine and i want HSPL because it's easy and i use it since Trinity without any probs.
flashed with SSPL because i really don't like Orange's ROM
If i understand correctly, you flashed with sspl and can't go back to hspl even after going back to stock rom. Its very easy to solve but difficult to find the required rom. All you have to do is download different kinds or should i say download an older version of the orange stock rom and install it on your device. That should solve your proplem, at least that how i was able to solve mine.
Abdul9. said:
an older version of the orange stock rom and install it on your device.
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hehe, and that little piece of info is the cause of confisuion this mildly amusing thread,, , you see the only orange rom that has been released by HTC directly is the 3.14, (there is an earlier orange FR rom about, but i remember lots of people hunting high and low last summer for it) but the OP wants to downgrade to apply hspl.
@OP - give the one in post 2 a try HERE.