During the complicated questions, and following so many topic about widcomm bluetooth driver for XDA II. Can anyone post here which widcom bluetooth driver to download that surely works great on our XDAII and also what to do after installing that widcomm so the original bluetooth doesn'y appear anymore.... what registry should we edit
careful; read the posts and a lot of people said that after they installed the stack their headsets refused to work with the phone. something like the stack installing properly; recognized and probably bonded with the headsets but refused to transfer the calls. might end up doing a hard reset...
RE: Widcomm Headset/Handsfree Support
Robson said:
careful; read the posts and a lot of people said that after they installed the stack their headsets refused to work with the phone. something like the stack installing properly; recognized and probably bonded with the headsets but refused to transfer the calls. might end up doing a hard reset...
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It's true. Everything else works except for the BT headset/handsfree. I am incline to believe we already have the full Widcomm BT drivers, but something in the registry is missing....
I have had ongoing problems getting my Jabra 250 to work with my XDA II ever since i upgraded to ROM 2.06.00 WWE, Radio: 1.18 and ExtROM: SIN.AU.v3.5. I could neve figure out the issue so stopped using the handsfree a few months ago but currently have renewed inspiration to get to the bottom of this.
From what i have seen in all the forums, I need to pair my Jabra 250 into headset mode instead of handsfree mode. When I do this, my XDA does not recognize the Jabra. When I change the Jabra to Handsfree mode, the XDA then sees the device bBut when I talk, the mic on the handfree is defeated and i have to talk directory into the mic on the phone. I have tried BT tools to know avail.
So my question is,
1. Is this a hardware compatiblity issue between the 2 devices where I can solve the problem by puchasing another brand of handsfree. If so, anybody have a good suggestion of what brand handsfree is compatible?
2. Is this a software problem where my bluetooth stack is corrupted or something like that and if so,is there some way to upgrade or fix without having to upgrade Rom and/or ExtROM?
Thanks,
Danny
hi universed, you can try to install Widcomm BT stack instead of MS BT stack.
buzz
Hey Buzz,
Where can I find the newest version of the Widcomm stack and is there a thread somewhere on xda-developers.com that talks about how to install and if there are any caveats or stuff I have to watch out for.
I saw something from February but it appeared the files were incomplete and folks were having their machines freeze?
Thanks,
Danny
Widcomm BT Stack Concerns
Hey,
I have been reading all the forums regarding the Widcomm BT stack and it seems like most folks attempting to make the upgrade are finding loads of problems, attempting lots of unsusesssful registry hacks and a handful of people attempting this solution have ended up having to do a hard reset?
I also saw a line in of the replys stating "I don't think it's going to make any difference on our XDA II device. AFH stands for "Adaptive Frequency Hoping" and it's only available in Bluetooth v1.2. XDA II has bluetooth v1.1 so it does not support AFH." Not sure exactly what that means but if the problem is inherrent in the hardware and can't be overcome, I would rather not mess with a device that is working just the way I want it except for the BT handsfree problem?
Does anyone have any direct and successful experience upgrading to the Widcomm BT stack on the XDA II and then resolving the specific issue I mentioned above,
Confused,
Danny
I wonder if attempting to upgrade to Buzz's WM2005 will solve the problem (And not create too many other problems)?
Danny
Getting Mighty lonely in this topic, think I am going to take my himalaya and go home.
Hi.
Have read a lot of forums/treads and get totally messed. So, please, tell me definitely: is there some way to replace MS bluetooth stack with widcomm or blusolei? Teh main target is to get normal coworking with the BT handsfree.
My Atom doesn't work normal neither with Jabra HF nor with Pioneer BT car audio. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. I give up to fight with it...
Thanks a lot for answers.
what ROM version do you have?
20060426 ENG....
The last one, dwnloaded from xda ftp.
Ok...
I haven't found anyone else that would admit to trying these headphones with my phone (Dopod 838 Pro).
The headphones themselves are pretty cool. They fit pretty well, don't look toooo dorky, and the buttons click nicely etc. I haven't had them go flat on me yet. They could have come with a protective case though, and you have to take the microphone off to charge them, and I'm always afraid I will lose it.
When I first got them, they sounded crap. AM radio crap. I updated them to the latest firmware from the BlueAnt website (what a drama).
Tested, and they worked ok with the dongle - not exactly hifi sound, but the quality was ok to listen to.
Next I called BlueAnt HQ here in Australia, and after getting put through to a tech support guy he told me "They should work fine, I tried them with an iMate JasJam - no problems. Do a reset and try re-pairing them" (Duh).
Then I called the Dopod support line in Australia. During business hours. It goes through to an answering machine that doesn't even have an introduction message. Left a message. No reply.
Just as I was about to return them, I found the A2DP software tweak/patch on the wiki. First let me just say:
AAARRRGHHHH! What they hell are Microsoft thinking? Why have a registry setting \HKLM\StereoMusic\MakeMyMusicSoundLikeCrap=1 setting in the first place, and THEN why ship all phones with that enabled as the default? How many people have returned perfectly functioning Bluetooth headsets because of that? STUPID. I reckon Microsoft/HTC owe BlueAnt (and others) a truck load of money.
Secondly, that helps. Music is now stereo. I've been using them every day for a few weeks now. The bad news:
1) The quality is still very poor. There is a metallic hissing/sizzling/sibilance sound, especially noticeable on female vocals, which sounds (to me) exactly like a poor bitrate encoding error. The quality is much worse than when I pair it to the dongle it came with. I suspect it is the phone (or the MS BT stack) at fault not the headset. I would really like to be able to fix this.
2) With Wifi enabled, the music cuts out every few seconds. Unlistenable.
3) With Wifi disabled, I get the occasional glitch. I can live with that (if I must)
4) Using the headset profile during a phonecall, the sound I hear isn't too bad (a little muffled) but people tell me I sound really distant and hard to hear.
5) The AVRCP support is dodgy. Most of the time it works. Often when I first hit Play, it plays for a few seconds and then stops. I have to hit Play/Pause again and it starts. Track seek and volume up/down seem to work well. Answering a phone seemed hit and miss at first, but seems to mostly be working now. Not sure if this is the phone or the headset.
The iMate JasJam listed in the compatitabilty section of the BlueAnt website, but the Dopod 838 Pro is not. I emailed BlueAnt with my findings, and suggested they add the A2DP hack to their FAQ for other users. Hasn't appeared yet.
So, my questions:
1) Has anyone tried these headphones on a Hermes device? Does your experience mirror mine? Or is one of my devices faulty? Is the voice quality on the headset profile ok?
2) Is there a Widcomm (?) stack that works on the Hermes that may fix the problem, or...is it likely to be any better with WM6?
3) Does anyone have an A2DP headset of any brand working on a Hermes with "Crystal clear CD quality sound" like it says on the box the headphones came in. If so, what brand? If it is possible to get a good sound out of the MS BT stack, it might be worth pushing BlueAnt to release a new firmware to fix the issues.
4) Would a Bluetooth 2.0 headset give a better result? (Is it a bandwidth issue?)
Any replies would be helpful.
Thanks guys,
Zilch.
Yep I have an X5 unit connected to my Imate Jasjam and have not updated the firmware.
Yes it did skip when I first tried it but after a bit of experimenting, discovered turning off WiFi fixed it.
Yes it was mono till I did the reg hack to make it stereo.
No I don't get any hiss and think the quality is great (I know this is subjective but I tested female vocals as you suggested and they were great -Croncrete Blond, Eurythmics, Dyvinals, and even Chris Issac)
You may want to go here http://blogs.msdn.com/windowsmobile/default.aspx to realise the complications/dificulties the Ms WM guys are up against. I am sure they had a good reason to set the default to mono (maybe some devices didn't work at all with it set to stereo)
I would have to suggest there are other issues with your setup that are compromising the playback quality. I honsetly am impressed.
I don't use it as a phone headset as I use the X3 model to connect to two phones (I like Blue Ant stuff), so I can't comment on the mic quality.
When you consider that most people are having a nightmare with their stereo headsets (read the Widicom thread, if you have a lifetime to spare), then I am totally impressed with Blue Ant.
Sorry to have to disagree with you.
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Yep I have an X5 unit connected to my Imate Jasjam and have not updated the firmware.
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Thanks for the reply!
Yes it did skip when I first tried it but after a bit of experimenting, discovered turning off WiFi fixed it.
Yes it was mono till I did the reg hack to make it stereo.
No I don't get any hiss and think the quality is great (I know this is subjective but I tested female vocals as you suggested and they were great -Croncrete Blond, Eurythmics, Dyvinals, and even Chris Issac)
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Hmm...ok. Are you saying that the quality from your JasJam is the same as if you used the supplied Bluetooth Dongle that comes with the X5? (That's my goal currently)
If so, maybe there is some sort of configuration difference between the JasJam and the Dopod. (The JasJam is on the compatibility list, and the support guy did say he had used it ok)
I'm not just being an anal hifi buff here. The sound quality is obviously poor, and quite noticeable. You probably don't have it, but if you listen to the track 'Lithum' by 'Evanescense' it makes you cringe when the vocals come in (the piano sounds relatively normal. It's noticable in all tracks, but specifically in tracks like that.
Did you use this utility to tweak the A2DP sound settings? Or edit the registry manually (if so, can you tell me what settings you used?)
You may want to go here http://blogs.msdn.com/windowsmobile/default.aspx to realise the complications/dificulties the Ms WM guys are up against. I am sure they had a good reason to set the default to mono (maybe some devices didn't work at all with it set to stereo)
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I don't really accept that as a valid reason. Sure they have problems. The least they could do is make a user tweakable UI to change that setting. It's not acceptable to have a protocol designed for stereo music set to mono and no way for a user to change it.
I would have to suggest there are other issues with your setup that are compromising the playback quality. I honsetly am impressed.
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Ok, good to know. I haven't given up yet!
Sorry to have to disagree with you.
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Not at all! Thanks again for the reply.
Edit: If you get a chance, can you do me a favour and check if yours is the H1 or the H4 model? (First two digits of the serial number, under the battery of the left headphone).
Zilch.
esseff said:
Yep I have an X5 unit connected to my Imate Jasjam and have not updated the firmware.
You may want to go here http://blogs.msdn.com/windowsmobile/default.aspx to realise the complications/dificulties the Ms WM guys are up against. I am sure they had a good reason to set the default to mono (maybe some devices didn't work at all with it set to stereo).
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Ehh... they could pay up and get a proper BT-stack from Widcomm....
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Thanks for the reply!
Hmm...ok. Are you saying that the quality from your JasJam is the same as if you used the supplied Bluetooth Dongle that comes with the X5? (That's my goal currently)
If so, maybe there is some sort of configuration difference between the JasJam and the Dopod. (The JasJam is on the compatibility list, and the support guy did say he had used it ok)
I'm not just being an anal hifi buff here. The sound quality is obviously poor, and quite noticeable. You probably don't have it, but if you listen to the track 'Lithum' by 'Evanescense' it makes you cringe when the vocals come in (the piano sounds relatively normal. It's noticable in all tracks, but specifically in tracks like that.
Did you use this utility to tweak the A2DP sound settings? Or edit the registry manually (if so, can you tell me what settings you used?)
I don't really accept that as a valid reason. Sure they have problems. The least they could do is make a user tweakable UI to change that setting. It's not acceptable to have a protocol designed for stereo music set to mono and no way for a user to change it.
Ok, good to know. I haven't given up yet!
Not at all! Thanks again for the reply.
Edit: If you get a chance, can you do me a favour and check if yours is the H1 or the H4 model? (First two digits of the serial number, under the battery of the left headphone).
Zilch.
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I haven't used the dongle for a long time but when I did it was thru my HiFi playing CDs not MP3 so there may have been a difference in quality but never bothered to compare as I never had a problem with the playback quality from my Imate.
I did a manual reg fix using the wiki recommendations of 48 and 0.
I have model H1.
You may be right that the Imate is configured a little differently but I also run it very clean.
I have so few problems compared to what I read that I feel embarressed that I'm so lucky. As an IT consultant I just luv it as my work phone - I use VPN, Terminal Services, WiFi, Push Email, internet access, etc... and it's a phone! Constantly impressed.
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Can't believe the way people on this forum butcher their devices and end up with something that is full of broken things... oh but I'm sooooo cool because I have WMXL .20.1 with radio rom 6.47.803 - don't care that nothing works anymore. Juss wanna be soooo cool.
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I did a manual reg fix using the wiki recommendations of 48 and 0.
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Did you set a bitrate?
I have model H1.
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I wonder if this is the difference. Mine is an H4 version.
You may be right that the Imate is configured a little differently but I also run it very clean.
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Just for the record, I got the headphones a few days after I got the phone. The only thing I had done was put my SIM card in, copy a few MP3s and change the default theme (since the Dopod one is grey).
There were no mods/hacks/cooked ROMS/tweaks etc. Just the ROM it came with which is also the latest version on the Dopod website. My phone is supplied to me by work, so I need it to be as reliable as possible - I can't afford to mess around with it. (Which is one of the reasons I resent having to edit the registry to get some stereo headphones to play in stereo)
Note: Today I have a few apps installed. An RSS reader, train timetable, TomTom etc. Only hack is the registry change for A2DP, and a util which sets the soft input to Block Recognition mode on startup. None of these seem to have affected the quality of the A2DP stream in any way though.
Unless I can try my headphones with someone's JasJam, or another Dopod I'm not sure I'm going to be able to narrow down the issue. I think it has to be a difference in the X4 hardware/firmware or an issue with the Dopod ROM (compared to the JasJam one)
I have so few problems compared to what I read that I feel embarressed that I'm so lucky. As an IT consultant I just luv it as my work phone - I use VPN, Terminal Services, WiFi, Push Email, internet access, etc... and it's a phone! Constantly impressed.
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I have it as a work phone too - and work in IT. I haven't had any issues with it except Windows Media Player losing the tracks on the storage card, and the device locking up from time to time (this is always when I am not using it - it is turned off and does not turn back on). Overall it's a great phone!
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Can't believe the way people on this forum butcher their devices and end up with something that is full of broken things... oh but I'm sooooo cool because I have WMXL .20.1 with radio rom 6.47.803 - don't care that nothing works anymore. Juss wanna be soooo cool.
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Dude. You are hanging around the xda-developers forum. Each to their own. Tweaking is fun for these guys. It's like mechanics cars. You and I are in a different position as our phones are a work tools and have to be reliable. I'm more than happy to benefit from people experiences hacking theirs though
Zilch.
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I don't use it as a phone headset as I use the X3 model to connect to two phones (I like Blue Ant stuff), so I can't comment on the mic quality.
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I was actually considering getting an X3 as well (they look cool), but I will wait until I have worked out the issues with my X5.
Just thinking about this. How does it work? You are bopping along to your perfect A2DP sound, and you somehow hear the phone ringing, so you take off the stereo headphones, get your X3 out of your pocket, insert it in your ear, and answer the phone!?
Zilch.
Zilch said:
I was actually considering getting an X3 as well (they look cool), but I will wait until I have worked out the issues with my X5.
Just thinking about this. How does it work? You are bopping along to your perfect A2DP sound, and you somehow hear the phone ringing, so you take off the stereo headphones, get your X3 out of your pocket, insert it in your ear, and answer the phone!?
Zilch.
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Don't use X5 at work, but when I'm relaxing at the beach or around the pool. Use X3 connected to my Imate and my private phone at work. AT the time it was the only headset that would connect to more than one device and works great.
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Dude. You are hanging around the xda-developers forum. Each to their own. Tweaking is fun for these guys. It's like mechanics cars. You and I are in a different position as our phones are a work tools and have to be reliable. I'm more than happy to benefit from people experiences hacking theirs though
Zilch.
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... but i shake my head in disbelief when I read some of the things ppl do.
Kupur was applauding an admitted newbie who, after 1 hr of owning his device decided it wasn't right and flashed it with some cooked rom, upgraded the radio, and SIM/CID unlocked it!!
How can this guy have any point of referance? How can he know he has made an improvement if he never bothered to use it properly in it's std state? And he will no doubt curse and abuse Ms and HTC for producing crap hardware and software.
As you say each to their own but it's hard for me to understand some ppls mentality.
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... but i shake my head in disbelief when I read some of the things ppl do.
Kupur was applauding an admitted newbie who, after 1 hr of owning his device decided it wasn't right and flashed it with some cooked rom, upgraded the radio, and SIM/CID unlocked it!!
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If I was tempted to do that, right after getting it is probably when I would do it. Reloading all your stuff sucks. Plus if he needed it SIM unlocked to use it that could be why.
Plus, what a better way to learn than bricking a $900 brand new phone?
Zilch.
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So, my questions:
1) Has anyone tried these headphones on a Hermes device? Does your experience mirror mine? Or is one of my devices faulty? Is the voice quality on the headset profile ok?
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3) Does anyone have an A2DP headset of any brand working on a Hermes with "Crystal clear CD quality sound" like it says on the box the headphones came in. If so, what brand? If it is possible to get a good sound out of the MS BT stack, it might be worth pushing BlueAnt to release a new firmware to fix the issues.
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To answer my own question in case anyone else is having this issue...it's all fixed with the official WM6 ROM. Works perfectly. (Except for the dropouts when WiFi is enabled)
yeah I have them and have had for quite some time now ... first used them with my Eten G00 then the G500+, then I changed phones to a nokia n73 and things didn't seem so good. anymore I lost the remote functions and even though I like the new phone I missed some things like nav and others so i went back tot he g00+. I have now updated to the HTC Tytn II I think sim to your hermes ....
I find nothing wrong the x5 controls a re great and quality is exceptable... I have no issues with Wifi.. I have the updated firmeware on my x5 and the stock firmware on my tytn II..
I also have a hs850 paired to the device the only thing I deslike on the hole issue is that everytime I use the x6 I have to fiddle around getting them to resume the pairing.
where as my hs-850 I just turn on blue tooth and turn on the headset... and off we go...
I have the x5 set as default headset and default stereo headset... the hs850 is just another device listed and pairs up soon as its turned on.
Can someone post me the headset firmware and how to use it?
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Can someone post me the headset firmware and how to use it?
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I got it from blueant.com I think. (Was some time ago). It was updating the phone that fixed the issues though.
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I got it from blueant.com I think. (Was some time ago). It was updating the phone that fixed the issues though.
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I can't seem to find it. can you upload it somewhere? Or give me a link?
Hi All,
I am not sure that it is the right place to ask a question on this subject, but I didn't see a better one.
I have a Samsung WEP410 BT headset that I used on my old HTC TP2 under WM6.5 and I tried to use it on my new Galaxy S3. All is OK for the phone, but I am unable to get other sounds from other apps (mainly GPS apps). I had some trouble with my preceding old HTC Raphael which was fixed with a special patch I found on XDA and it worked very well with my TP2, but I thought that this trouble was definitely fixed and became standard. I am a beginner with Android, perhaps I have missed something, please be indulgent...
Many thanks for helping.
BR.
I answer to me because it could help someone else. It is always the same reason: the profile of the WEP 410 is HFP or HSP, it means only the telephone sound are routed to the headset. On WinMob it was possible to reroute all sounds to the headset, but with ICS on S3 it seems to be impossible. I tried all softwares from the market, but none was working.
Finally I bought a new BT headset (Plantronics M50) with an A2DP profile, and all is working well.
So, the trouble is fixed.
BR.
VampiruX said:
Hi All,
I am not sure that it is the right place to ask a question on this subject, but I didn't see a better one.
I have a Samsung WEP410 BT headset that I used on my old HTC TP2 under WM6.5 and I tried to use it on my new Galaxy S3. All is OK for the phone, but I am unable to get other sounds from other apps (mainly GPS apps). I had some trouble with my preceding old HTC Raphael which was fixed with a special patch I found on XDA and it worked very well with my TP2, but I thought that this trouble was definitely fixed and became standard. I am a beginner with Android, perhaps I have missed something, please be indulgent...
Many thanks for helping.
BR.
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Hi VampiruX, my s3 doesn't found wep410. How do i do it ?
Why i dont' find bt wep410 ?
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