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Hi All ..i'm totally lost here. I've tried to look for guideline to downgrade to original SPL 1.04 but i cudn't find any.I installed the latest m3100 unlock software v3a doing so my SPL is now version 1.4 Olipro. For warranty purposes how do I downgrade back to 1.04? I'm sorry this problem might have been addressed somewhere on the forum..if so cud someone provide the link to the thread on this. thank you so much.
Click on the mrvanx guide at the bottom of my signature, it will tell you how to downgrade in the guides.
mysharif said:
HELP HELP
Hi All ..i'm totally lost here. I've tried to look for guideline to downgrade to original SPL 1.04 but i cudn't find any.I installed the latest m3100 unlock software v3a doing so my SPL is now version 1.4 Olipro. For warranty purposes how do I downgrade back to 1.04? I'm sorry this problem might have been addressed somewhere on the forum..if so cud someone provide the link to the thread on this. thank you so much.
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I have been there mrvanx guide. but he don't have the solution to this problem. Just to downgrade the rom to wm5 not the SPL.
mysharif i think we have to shout again.
Help us anybody there we are stuck here.
OK guys the SPL downgrade can be done by downgrading to SPL 1.10.oli then flash any ROM with SPL 1.04 in it.
The only reason i can see that you wish to downgrade to 1.04 is because of a warranty issue. What is the problem with your devices??
You are great. I hope it will work for my Imate JasJam. Last night I was flashing my ROM with the original ROM but modified with NBH decomplie too by dutty. Before that I wrecked my device as I used the flashing of ROM using the latest sensation of loading the SSPL to RAM by des. That was my mistake that I used the original ROM. Then I removed the USB cable as it was taking too much time and because of danger to my imate I did that. Anyhow I got the NO GSM error but then I ran the Dutty's WM6v2 cooked ROM and it fixes all the things I am using it now.
The reason for my Imate JasJam degrade is my jog is not working according to its function. You know jumping from field to field. I didn't found any of that problem solution till the page of 30 in threads and posts. I am searching but if anybody knows the link. Kindly help me. So that I will save a trip to see the warranty people. (here we don't have ladies receptionists )
Sorry for the stupid question, how do I downgrade from Oli 2.10 to Oli 1.10
Il write a guide on it...too many PMs about this.
mysharif said:
HELP HELP
Hi All ..i'm totally lost here. I've tried to look for guideline to downgrade to original SPL 1.04 but i cudn't find any.I installed the latest m3100 unlock software v3a doing so my SPL is now version 1.4 Olipro. For warranty purposes how do I downgrade back to 1.04? I'm sorry this problem might have been addressed somewhere on the forum..if so cud someone provide the link to the thread on this. thank you so much.
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I have the same problem. My touchscreen is dud and Softbank is very anal about the bootloader and warranty. im stuck with Olipro 2.10 and tried flashing the latest softbank rom. When i try via USB/Windows it gives me error 260.
Flashing with MicroSD works, but after a few attempts, its still Olipro bootloader...any ideas?
aquasesh said:
I have the same problem. My touchscreen is dud and Softbank is very anal about the bootloader and warranty. im stuck with Olipro 2.10 and tried flashing the latest softbank rom. When i try via USB/Windows it gives me error 260.
Flashing with MicroSD works, but after a few attempts, its still Olipro bootloader...any ideas?
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Ofcourse...because flashing an original RUU it doesnt recognise the new bootloader (Hence your 260 error), and HArdSPL doesnt allow itself to be overwritten by a retail RUU. IF you read through the HArdSPL threads you would know this.
mrvanx said:
OK guys the SPL downgrade can be done by downgrading to SPL 1.10.oli then flash any ROM with SPL 1.04 in it.
The only reason i can see that you wish to downgrade to 1.04 is because of a warranty issue. What is the problem with your devices??
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Hmmm, just yesterday (Thursday) I was asked by a VP at our company if that could be done. I was reluctant to say yes, but mrvanx comes thru with a fix.
The VP is in fact worried about having to return some devices to Vodafone, and he want to make them look "original" when they go back.
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Hmmm, just yesterday (Thursday) I was asked by a VP at our company if that could be done. I was reluctant to say yes, but mrvanx comes thru with a fix.
The VP is in fact worried about having to return some devices to Vodafone, and he want to make them look "original" when they go back.
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Just flash SPL 1.10.oli.......................then flash a vodaphone ROM, dont use 'force SSPL', just use autodetect.
well to get spl 1.04 all u have to do is take rom koch and the wm5 rom u are downgrading to. first downgrade os. then take that rom and using rom koch split it into parts and just take the spl and make it into a nbh and use the custom ruu on here. select force sspl and itll make ur spl 1.04. this is a quick guide and do this at own risk. using this method i got my first 8525 to aku 3.5 att and original spl. if marvanx comfirms i didnt make any mistakes i can make a new thread with pics and all so we cna add this to resources and stop the questions.
Pawel062 said:
well to get spl 1.04 all u have to do is take rom koch and the wm5 rom u are downgrading to. first downgrade os. then take that rom and using rom koch split it into parts and just take the spl and make it into a nbh and use the custom ruu on here. select force sspl and itll make ur spl 1.04. this is a quick guide and do this at own risk. using this method i got my first 8525 to aku 3.5 att and original spl. if marvanx comfirms i didnt make any mistakes i can make a new thread with pics and all so we cna add this to resources and stop the questions.
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Or you could just wait until my guide is finished??
You dont need to use the rom koch ... duttys nbh tool is far more appropriate for this since we aint doing any cooking.
yea your right I just wanted to reduce your work load.
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Or you could just wait until my guide is finished??
You dont need to use the rom koch ... duttys nbh tool is far more appropriate for this since we aint doing any cooking.
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Hi mrvanx, some input to go into your guide (in case you havent come across this yet).
While flashing 1.10Oli under Vista, users may run into a problem where after loading SSPL and the phone goes into (SSPL) bootloader mode, the RUU program cannot detect the phone and returns an error.
This is due to the Vista drivers for HTC USB Sync. The driver needs to be manually "updated" just like in your Vista flashing guide. In this case, while the phone is in SSPL bootloader mode, go into device manager, replace the default HTC USB Sync driver with the USBAS one from your Vista flashing guide.
Then soft reset the phone, and try again. Worked for me.
For some reason, SSPL bootloader may appear as a different device to Windows than the hard/standard bootloader, so even if the Vista procedure has been performed before, it looks like it needs to be done also for SSPL.
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Hello,
I know this has been asked all over the place but I have read all the related downgrade threads and cant find what im looking for. (Just too confusing!)
OK yesturday I got a SPV M3100 from orange. Within 5 mins I had followed this guide to upgrade to WM6:
http://www.mrvanx.org/hermes_guide/wmxl/index.html
All went well! I flashed the SPL thing first, then the radio thing, and then the OS.
I am trying to downgrade now, as I am having second thoughts and having a few problems. I want to downgrade everything, the SPL, Radio and OS stuff.
This is what I had:
IPL - 1.01
SPL - 1.04
Radio: not sure
OS: WM5 with Orange stuff intergrated
I now have:
IPL-1.01
SPL-1.40.Olipro
Radio: 1.38.00.10
OS: WMXL 0.20
I have read this guide about downgrading:
http://www.mrvanx.org/hermes_guide/Downgrade/index.html
I think I can follow it OK but it sounds confusing to me. He only really talkes about downgrading the OS. I want everything back to factory standard.
Theres all this talk about I have to downgrade to SPL 1.10 before I do anything. Some say force it. If it was 1.04 to start, why do i flash 1.10? Some say other stuff. Im just all confused! Can you do the whole lot in one flash? Do it seperately? What order?
Again really sorry for this random post, im just really stuck
Thanks
David
dlfranks said:
Hello,
I know this has been asked all over the place but I have read all the related downgrade threads and cant find what im looking for. (Just too confusing!)
OK yesturday I got a SPV M3100 from orange. Within 5 mins I had followed this guide to upgrade to WM6:
http://www.mrvanx.org/hermes_guide/wmxl/index.html
All went well! I flashed the SPL thing first, then the radio thing, and then the OS.
I am trying to downgrade now, as I am having second thoughts and having a few problems. I want to downgrade everything, the SPL, Radio and OS stuff.
This is what I had:
IPL - 1.01
SPL - 1.04
Radio: not sure
OS: WM5 with Orange stuff intergrated
I now have:
IPL-1.01
SPL-1.40.Olipro
Radio: 1.38.00.10
OS: WMXL 0.20
I have read this guide about downgrading:
http://www.mrvanx.org/hermes_guide/Downgrade/index.html
I think I can follow it OK but it sounds confusing to me. He only really talkes about downgrading the OS. I want everything back to factory standard.
Theres all this talk about I have to downgrade to SPL 1.10 before I do anything. Some say force it. If it was 1.04 to start, why do i flash 1.10? Some say other stuff. Im just all confused! Can you do the whole lot in one flash? Do it seperately? What order?
Again really sorry for this random post, im just really stuck
Thanks
David
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IF you read the guide it takes you through downgrading the OS,extrom and the two splashscreens.
You do the same procedure again for the radio and IPL/SPL, but make sure you do the SPL and IPL last.
Or you could do a different procedure where you flash 1.10.oli (SPL) to the device, then you can run a full flash all at once, is up to you.
thanks.
So I flash 1.10Olipro first (sorry where do i get this?)
Then I flash the Orange ROM from the wiki? This then puts the old radio, spl and os on?
does the orange rom force all the old stuff back on if the spl is 1.10 or something
Am i still following the same downgrade guide?
wish there was a guide just for me!!! lol
dlfranks said:
wish there was a guide just for me!!! lol
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lol When you manage this, perhaps you could produce a specific guide for us Orange M3100 owners
philg2000 said:
lol When you manage this, perhaps you could produce a specific guide for us Orange M3100 owners
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you have any tips for me having one yourself?
I want it all back to normal just incase I decide to send it back...
Upgrade was so easy, just ran a bunch of files. The downgrade one you have to extract, copy, move, compile and do all these things
If i put on 1.10oli will the phone still work with wm6?
then i do the downgrade guide and use the orange rom, how do i get it to downgrade all 3 things?
why cant it be as easy as flashing a normal phone like K800i lol
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IF you read the guide it takes you through downgrading the OS,extrom and the two splashscreens.
You do the same procedure again for the radio and IPL/SPL, but make sure you do the SPL and IPL last.
Or you could do a different procedure where you flash 1.10.oli (SPL) to the device, then you can run a full flash all at once, is up to you.
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the two dfio ways you said here? there still confusing me...
how do i do the full flash? that sounds more simple...
is there a guide??????
full flash with orange rom wm5? you said downgrade to 1.10oli first. If i do this then do full flash, with 1.04 be put on by the full flash?
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you have any tips for me having one yourself?
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I wish!
Well, I could give you a pointer to what to avoid doing, from "my mates" <cough> own harsh learn -the-hard-way experience. Let me have a trawl thru what "he" did recently the resulted in a Brick...
I take it your not looking to do this any time soon?
i want to do it today, just incase i decide to send it back to orange.
i just wanna know what steps to take how to get it all back to the way orange sent it to me.
i just went to start the downgrade sing the downgrade guide, but the only orange rom on the wiki is romanion or something and its orange008. so confusing!!!!!!
i dont understand
OK, there isnt a guide on this because its a more advanced thing to do. You REALLY should read up in the HardSPL thread and etc... before you do this:
download SPL 1.10.oli, unzip and run ROMUpgradeUT this will flash the SPL to the device. Then just download a ROM (such as an orange one) and run it. the ROM will downgrade everything.
Actually it is dangerous to downgrade using a full ROM without Hard spl1.40olipro which will protect you from bricking your device.
If you really want to do it then
1- Do as mrvanx guide to downgrade only the OS.
2- Do as mrvanx guide to downgrade only the Radio.
3- Download 1.10oli which will replace 1.40oli and I think it is the only way to do it.
4- Do as mrvanx guide to downgrade only the Spl.
I don't advice you to downgrade the radio as the shipped one is terrible.
Read Hard spl thread before you start your downgrade process.
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OK, there isnt a guide on this because its a more advanced thing to do. You REALLY should read up in the HardSPL thread and etc... before you do this:
download SPL 1.10.oli, unzip and run ROMUpgradeUT this will flash the SPL to the device. Then just download a ROM (such as an orange one) and run it. the ROM will downgrade everything.
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i did what you said...
flashed it with spl 1.10oli then flashed it with orange rom
rom flash went fine
now stuck in windows mobile flash screen
what do i do now? lol
dlfranks said:
i did what you said...
flashed it with spl 1.10oli then flashed it with orange rom
rom flash went fine
now stuck in windows mobile flash screen
what do i do now? lol
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Sh1t - Which Orange ROM?
What Bootloader version is now on the phone?
the Thread at the top of this forum is a good place to start - "dead hermes? corrupted radio? Post comments here"
Does it by any chance also say "No Gsm" on the orange screen briefly as it boots..
(I hope not....)
philg2000 said:
Sh1t - Which Orange ROM?
What Bootloader version is now on the phone?
the Thread at the top of this forum is a good place to start - "dead hermes? corrupted radio? Post comments here"
Does it by any chance also say "No Gsm" on the orange screen briefly as it boots..
(I hope not....)
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hello
bootloader on phone is spl-1.10.oli as this is what i was advised to put on it before i flash the rom and the rom would flash everything back...
the only things that the orange screen says is
M 05
S 04
B 06
D 2.5
the orange rom i used was...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=278060&page=3
hope you can help
thanks
Can you double check the boot loader version?
Coz I thought that Rom downgraded it too.
Best place to start, then, is the thread I mentioned. There is a table of what to do under certain circumstances.
Problem I was involved with, only option was repair. But with an Oli bootloader you should be ok.
the bootloader is defo 1.10.oli
i was expecting the rom to downgrade it too
i have put a post into that thread you said. its number 979
i have phoned orange and there happy to replace it tomo morning, if i fix it tonight then i just wont accept the new one... if not ill take risk of having replacement and them not contacting me about it
anything you can suggest? really appriciate any help!
i dont see how you can flash it again with difo boot loader as none of the tools recognise it now?
thanks
What I have now:
OS: Black 2.0 Cingular edition
Boot Loader: 1.01
Radio BL: 108
Radio: 1.38.10
what I want:
OS: WM 5 from the 1.34 cingular release
Boot Loader: Loader from the 1.34 cingular release
Radio BL: AFAIK you can't downgrade these so staying at 108
Radio: 1.16.00.00
How I plan to get there:
take the .nbh form the 1.34 cingular package and use RUU to flash the device.
Questions and concersion:
I'm looking for input on possible incompatabilities and hang-ups with varios BL versions and what not.
comments / feedback on my plan would be greatly appreciated and I will build a monument in your name if you help .
This has been covered before...
But, since you're well on your way to brick-ville, I'll buy your phone off you for, say, $100? It'll be worth less after you brick it...
Read up on the W*I*K*I and Oli's 1.40.Olipro bootloader before you do something dumb.
I did read it.
And thats the plan I came up with.
I was looking more for a confirmation.
The wiki has a ton of great info but its laid out reall crappy and not very cohesive. So I figured I'd post what I've came up with after reading it to see if I missed something. And from there maybe get more specific input on where the issues/dependencies are..... or maybe not.
spicer said:
I did read it.
And thats the plan I came up with.
I was looking more for a confirmation.
The wiki has a ton of great info but its laid out reall crappy and not very cohesive. So I figured I'd post what I've came up with after reading it to see if I missed something. And from there maybe get more specific input on where the issues/dependencies are..... or maybe not.
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From your plan it is obvious that, even IF you read the wiki, you didn't understand it. Re-read the THREADS about 1.40 SPL and also search for MRVANX and read his TUTORIALS...
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What I have now:
OS: Black 2.0 Cingular edition
Boot Loader: 1.01
Radio BL: 108
Radio: 1.38.10
what I want:
OS: WM 5 from the 1.34 cingular release
Boot Loader: Loader from the 1.34 cingular release
Radio BL: AFAIK you can't downgrade these so staying at 108
Radio: 1.16.00.00
How I plan to get there:
Flash to hardSPL-v6
Fash Radio to 1.16
flash OS i get out of the 1.134 package. (the os.nb file i believe it is named)
last flash the boot loader.
Questions and concersion:
I'm looking for input on possible incompatabilities and hang-ups with varios BL versions and what not.
comments / feedback on my plan would be greatly appreciated and I will build a monument in your name if you help .
LegolasTheElf said:
From your plan it is obvious that, even IF you read the wiki, you didn't understand it. Re-read the THREADS about 1.40 SPL and also search for MRVANX and read his TUTORIALS...
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I really appreciate the feedback. At least you're letting me know my plan wont work. Which will prevent me from trying it. But it would be kick ass if you could be more specific about what in the wiki i missed like :
-you can't flash the entire .nbh file cause it will try to replace your boot load and break it.
or
- Re-read the THREADS about 1.40 SPL because *something useful here*
Either way I'm still thankful cause I know my plan is a **** sandwich.
Very good.. You're getting there! It's nice to see someone read some directions..
You have it mostly right.. Flash the HardSPLv6 first. Then, grab the .nbh from the cingular rom and combine it with CustomRUU. Choose 'Autodetect' (we're looking for a hard-spl flash)..
Then, once that's done, you'll have the right radio, OS, splash, etc.. The only thing left would be to down-grade the bootloader, which I would advise against.. But, you can do it.. There is a seperate thread on HOW to do that, as it isn't just a one-step process.. Search and ye shall find.
Thank MAn!!! That kicks ass.
I need to send my phone back because the radio dies every 5 mintes.
So I want to get it as close to factory as possible.
So after I downgrade the BL i won't be doing anymore flashing to that phone.
Sometimes when I soft reset the phone is says "No GSM" even when sim is there. Soft reset it again and the radio is detected.
Very irritating.
Check out:
http://www.mrvanx.org/hermes_guide/
Flash HardSPL-1.40
Create NBH containing your provider's 2xSplashScreen + ExtROM + OS & flash it
Flash 1.16 radio
Flash-HardSPL-1.10
Flash your original IPL & SPL versions.
F-ya! That last part about down grading the BL is the part I was having trouble pinning down.
One last question:
Can I use the cingular NBH or will it try to flash the RBL and crash because you can't down grade the RBL
the the new mrvanx page is dope. found the donwgrade guide.
Bricked using this method
pof said:
Flash HardSPL-1.40
Create NBH containing your provider's 2xSplashScreen + ExtROM + OS & flash it
Flash 1.16 radio
Flash-HardSPL-1.10
Flash your original IPL & SPL versions.
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Pof,
I did it this way but after flashing the radio rom I get no GSM and then I'm stuck in the Windows Mobile Screen.
I have looked in the Wiki but how can I actually unbrick?
My SPL is still 1.40 Oli. But I can't get activesync to work.
Should I flash the new radio via SD card or any other way (mtty?)
I would be very gratefull for any help,
Cheers,
HJ
P.S. Found a solution; http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_UpgradeProblems#problem5
I will try to do this trick.
Thanks
@hellejoep: Try flashing your latest working radio again in NBH format.
pof said:
@hellejoep: Try flashing your latest working radio again in NBH format.
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Pof,
One question, Can I upgrade radio rom via mtty?
Or otherwise?
Cheers,
HJ
P.S. How can I Flash any radio in NBH format? While stuck in bootloader?
hellejoep said:
Can I upgrade radio rom via mtty?
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no
hellejoep said:
How can I Flash any radio in NBH format? While stuck in bootloader?
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Disable activesync, and use CustomRUU.
pof said:
Disable activesync, and use CustomRUU.
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Done that but then I get a Error 260.....
Any suggestions?
Or is there a way to bypass this? I have IPL 1.01 and SPL 1.40 Olipro.
I now got a Connection Error 264 but the bootloader gives usb and I can reach the hermes bij MTTY.exe.....
What is going wrong?
@hellejoep: close all programs including mtty before u run ruuwraper. Make sure you're using the latest version (v4.2) and activesync is not enabled.
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@hellejoep: close all programs including mtty before u run ruuwraper. Make sure you're using the latest version (v4.2) and activesync is not enabled.
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It worked, cheers!!!!!
LegolasTheElf said:
Very good.. You're getting there! It's nice to see someone read some directions..
You have it mostly right.. Flash the HardSPLv6 first. Then, grab the .nbh from the cingular rom and combine it with CustomRUU. Choose 'Autodetect' (we're looking for a hard-spl flash)..
Then, once that's done, you'll have the right radio, OS, splash, etc.. The only thing left would be to down-grade the bootloader, which I would advise against.. But, you can do it.. There is a seperate thread on HOW to do that, as it isn't just a one-step process.. Search and ye shall find.
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@LegolasTheElf,
This was great example on how to get people to read the wiki. I like your approach and I will try to use it in the future.
OK im not a new to windows mobile, i have flashed before many times but with wizard.
I want to upgrade my brother hermes,
ipl 1.01
spl 1.06
Im quite familiar with wizards "shelltool" (if you know) which just boots the OS and nothing else.
So can you guide as which tool i should use to just upgrade the OS and leave IPL and SPL and GSM as it is. I think SSPL should do??
Check out THIS MOST AWESOME GUIDE. MrVanx is the best and his guide will give you all you need.
But im in warranty, and i dont wanna lose it by overwriting spl,
Is there any other way to upgrade.
I think SSPL will do but not sure do i need to check for CID also??
Thanks for quick reply.
If your warranty is important, then I would read it very closely.
Probably only upgrades available from your manufacturer or your service provider would be allowed, and in that case you follow their instructions to the letter and if something goes wrong, it's up to them to resolve.
If you go loading WM6 and it's not supported, then you'll be on your own so you might as well load best/safest IPL & HARDSSPL as the experts have so wonderfully published for us lesser experienced people.
If it was my brothers phone, I wouldn't touch it because he'd either hit me or be bugging me for weeks about different versions & software etc, etc, etc
That's just my 2cents anyway.
Good luck! Oggy.
samy.3660 said:
But im in warranty, and i dont wanna lose it by overwriting spl,
Is there any other way to upgrade.
I think SSPL will do but not sure do i need to check for CID also??
Thanks for quick reply.
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I would suggest not flashing a radio if you don't flash Olipro's HardSPL.
But SSPL will allow you to bypass the CID check for roms, similar to the shelltool for Wizards.
I have learned now to decompile and compile the nbh file.
So i can compile now any rom with OS only and flash it via SSPL.
Can anybody guide me to a guide to use SSPL. OR can u say???
I have one more confusion regarding SSPL that it does change the SPL for time being(for flashing) or for always??
Again if anything goes wrong while flashing the rom(only OS) will i be able to flash the original rom directly with original SPL.
Dear All,
Could someone please tell me how to get the SPL back to original. Im planning to sell the phone and it basically needs to be completely as it were.
Thanks a million!
Kind Regards,
Henry
rakdoll said:
Dear All,
Could someone please tell me how to get the SPL back to original. Im planning to sell the phone and it basically needs to be completely as it were.
Thanks a million!
Kind Regards,
Henry
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http://www.mrvanx.org/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=59&Itemid=27
Thanks to Walshieau, Todd_jg and Olipro for helping me out with this.
This guide will take you through downgrading the Bootloader (SPL) on your Hermes device
This guide assumes you already have flashed ROMs and Other components and you are familiar with the process.
NOTE: By downgrading your SPL version your device is more vulnerable to being permenantly bricked if a flash goes wrong, by following this guide through YOU accept responsibility for any problems faced due to this operation. As with other downgrade guides this is NOT intended as a guide for claiming the warranty of the device having flashed components which are not authorised by the manufacturer or carrier.
The downgrade will take the following steps, since HardSPL does not allow itself to be downgraded directly, nor does SSPL allow versions lower than 1.09 to be flashed.
The first step is to dowgrade to SPLversion 1.10.oli. Firstly download this archive and extract the files to a temporary folder, connect your device up via the USB port and allow it to connect to activesync. Run "RUUWrapper.exe" which will fire up the RUU program:
Select 'Force SSPL' and continue the flashing process as usual.
Allow the flashing process to take place and your device will reboot.
Now check the SPL has been changed by entering bootloader mode, press and hold the side ok and power buttons then insert the stylus into the hole in the bottom of the device. Your SPL version should now read "1.10.oli".
The next step is to download the SPL you wish to finally downgrade to:
SPL 1.04 (includes IPL 1.00)
SPL 1.06 (includes IPL 1.01)
Again extract the contents to a temporary folder and connect your device to activesync via USB. Run "RUUWrapper" in this new folder.
Select the RED OPTION, and TICK THE BOX.
Then flash as normal.
This will flash the final SPL version onto your device.
Verify your SPL version once this has completed by allowing the device to boot into windows Mobile and entering the bootloader as before.
Last Updated ( Sunday, 17 June 2007 )
Oszi said:
http://www.mrvanx.org/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=59&Itemid=27
Thanks to Walshieau, Todd_jg and Olipro for helping me out with this.
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And *that* is the reason we helped you, so that now you help others. One day, rakdoll will help someone else. That is why we are all here. Nicely done!
how do I do this without being able to get access to the OS? now that is a challenge, but its what i need to do :O
revert back
this is what i used to flash mine back to enable original rom to be installed ,so i could take phone back for warrany reasons
Korpse said:
how do I do this without being able to get access to the OS? now that is a challenge, but its what i need to do :O
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Shouldn't need to access OS. You should be able to do it by putting it in BL mode... THEN plug it into the usb. Then start the updater.
Its 2.30.Olipro I need to downgrade from, and you cant overwrite olipro SPL's without using SSPL by des from inside the OS, I'm trying to find another way
Korpse said:
Its 2.30.Olipro I need to downgrade from, and you cant overwrite olipro SPL's without using SSPL by des from inside the OS, I'm trying to find another way
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2.3 is similar to 2.1.
As MrVanx's guide points out, the key is to get from 2.1 down to Oli 1.1. That will work. His guide works - guarantee it.
todd_jg said:
2.3 is similar to 2.1.
As MrVanx's guide points out, the key is to get from 2.1 down to Oli 1.1. That will work. His guide works - guarantee it.
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Thanks for the help, but MrVanx's guide uses SSPL by des (launched from inside the OS where I can't get to) to overwrite the 2.10.Olipro to get back to 1.10.Olipro, so that method wont work for me either
Korpse said:
Thanks for the help, but MrVanx's guide uses SSPL by des (launched from inside the OS where I can't get to) to overwrite the 2.10.Olipro to get back to 1.10.Olipro, so that method wont work for me either
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Oh interesting. A nuance I hadn't picked up on. So, when using the Force using SSPL" option in the flashing utility, you must be able to access the Phone OS? That surprises me, I thought that the RUU utility would put it on the phone even in BL mode and execute it? Hmm... strange. I guess if it is an exe, it needs the OS to run, though. Sort of makes sense. Sorry about the misdirection.
todd_jg said:
2.3 is similar to 2.1.
As MrVanx's guide points out, the key is to get from 2.1 down to Oli 1.1. That will work. His guide works - guarantee it.
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Hi,
I'm trying to downgrade to the original SPL (I'm trying to get hold of 2.03 but can't seem to find it), so am using 1.06. I've been able to downgrade to Oli1.10 from Oli2.10, but it won't go back to 1.06 from there, after the RUU says successfully completed the SPL is still the same.
Any ideas?
Cheers
downgrade phone for rogers warranty
Hi Guys,
I need to downgrade my phone as well for warranty purposes. Unfortunately Mrvanx's guide is offline at present. Can any one of you give little further detail about what I need to get back to orginal rom/radio/spl and bootloader. Or in shor to be able to send it back for warranty. I do have a new Rogers phone if that can be of any help.
It is from Rogers and currently my boot loader screen says following:
HERM200
IPL-1.04
HERM200
SPL-2.10.Olipro
Under Device Information:
ROM version: FARIA.R-32
ROM date: 11/06/07
Radio version 1.54.07.00
Protocol Version 32.86u.7020.23H
ExtROM version: BIGSTORAGE
My replacement Rogers Phone has following:
HERM200
IPL-1.01
HERM200
SPL-1.11
Under Device Information:
ROM version: 1.34.631.14
ROM date: 04/17/07
Radio version 1.42.00.00
Protocol Version 32.75.7020.18H
Can anyone please tell me if it is even possible to do this downgrade.
Thanks
B.
why dont you just brick the phone if you are worried about them complaining over the boot loader version. If you cant access the phone i doubt they will be able (or even be bothered) to
Could you please let me know what you did? Did you downgrade To the original Rogers Radio and SPL ? Do you by any chance have all the original Rogers files (WM5, SPL, Radio,...)?
I am with Rogers too and just unlocked SIM (not CID) and installed WM6 (official HTC)
I am wondering how I could lock SIM again if I need to return the phone for Rogers warranty? or unlocking SIM does NOT void the Rogers warranty?
Thanks
Downgrade to SPL 1.11
Hi is anyone able to figure out how to downgrade from SPL 2.10 Olipro to SPL 1.11? I have tried Mr Vanx guide but at the end of the process, I get Error 260. Not sure if I am doing anything wrong.
Do I have to downgrade to SPL1.10 Olipro, before I downgrade to SPL 1.11?
Thanks
I am having some issues downgrading back to an original SPL. I've searched throughout the site and have found a lot of conflicting advice, although this thread seems to be the most relevant.
I started out the process with SPL: 2.10.Olipro
I downgraded to 1.10.oli.
This process was successful in that the bootloader screen now says that the SPL version is 1.10.oli.
Now, when I try to flash the OEM version of SPL, the phone asks the following question:
You would like to run jumpspl.exe
If I say yes, the screen goes gray and says load... but I end up with a 260 error.
I have tried turning off the usb connection in the active sync and starting from the bootloader as mentioned here, but that just ends up giving me a 264 error.
Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Cheers,
~Hat
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Post #5 from here fixed the issue.
Oszi said:
http://www.mrvanx.org/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=59&Itemid=27
Thanks to Walshieau, Todd_jg and Olipro for helping me out with this.
This guide will take you through downgrading the Bootloader (SPL) on your Hermes device
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The downgrade will take the following steps, since HardSPL does not allow itself to be downgraded directly, nor does SSPL allow versions lower than 1.09 to be flashed.
The first step is to dowgrade to SPLversion 1.10.oli. Firstly download this archive and extract the files to a temporary folder, connect your device up via the USB port and allow it to connect to activesync. Run "RUUWrapper.exe" which will fire up the RUU program:
Select 'Force SSPL' and continue the flashing process as usual.
Allow the flashing process to take place and your device will reboot.
Now check the SPL has been changed by entering bootloader mode, press and hold the side ok and power buttons then insert the stylus into the hole in the bottom of the device. Your SPL version should now read "1.10.oli".
The next step is to download the SPL you wish to finally downgrade to:
SPL 1.04 (includes IPL 1.00)
SPL 1.06 (includes IPL 1.01)
Again extract the contents to a temporary folder and connect your device to activesync via USB. Run "RUUWrapper" in this new folder.
Select the RED OPTION, and TICK THE BOX.
Then flash as normal.
This will flash the final SPL version onto your device.
Verify your SPL version once this has completed by allowing the device to boot into windows Mobile and entering the bootloader as before.
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Okay, Im back to 1.10oli, but how do I know if I need to go back to SPL 1.04 (includes IPL 1.00) or SPL 1.06 (includes IPL 1.01)?
OK people, please tell me you have looked at the updated guide right??
http://www.mrvanx.org/thg/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=19&Itemid=27
Yes, but the choices are,
1.04
1.06
1.09
1.11
2.03
and I don't know how to tell which one is stock for my phone. I assume I need 1.04 since my bootloader says IPL-1.00 but I'm not sure because I know that used to say IPL-1.04, and since it appears that that can change for some reason, I want to make sure I get this right so I can get this waranteed. Im going to sell it on ebay and get the new HTC Fuze as soon as AT&T releases it.
It's patched SPL 2.20
1. Run SSPL (SoftSPL) - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=347348
2. Flash HardSPL for your DOC
Yes, really was not hard to patch.. glad it worked))) so, this disables CID and some other checks, so you can flash any custom rom
i have hard SPL/IPL 3.08 will ir work?
newbe here.
What does device root mean?
is it my prophet?
is root windows directory
Looks promissing.
So, as I understand, you don't have to "downgrade" your firmware everytime you want to try a new ROM?
This looks great.
You made our life much easier I think this should be a Sticky
for those of you who dosen't really know what this does.
follow the procedure (soft SPL then hard SPL) and you would never ever need any extra steps before upgrading to wm6.
EDIT: Okay I made it easier. I made a batch file to do the work. (Soft SPL then Hard SPL)
just run the Upgrade_SPL.bat from your PC. It will do the Soft and Hard SPL
Thanks Prislav for this great work
Test to patch a G4 prophet : ok
IPL and SPL version seem differents
IPL : 2.10.00
SPL : 2.G4.4PDA
Test to flash my proper ROM : ok for the moment.
Whaô, WM6 update with progress bar, Fantastic.
Reflexion :
Rom update launched from WindowsMobile synchronised with ActiveSync with patched RUU for Wizard.
My Prophet seems to be reconized by the RUU like a Wizard but upgrade work.
Finally :
Perfect job Prislav it work like a charm, our Prophet are now like other recents HTC devices. It rock : only 10minutes to flash a ROM with special SplashScreen
Now :
Flash just finished, all is ok Prislav, you are the BOSS
Question :
Do a patched RUU for Vista exist ?
Perfect for G4 Prophet...
Wooo! Done!
WOW!
I just tried this, and it's amazing! I tried flashing my Original ROM and it worked. Even the SPL was updated. The only thing that it didn't change was IPL. If you broke your phone and have warranty, this is THE easiest way to get the Vendor ROM back. I would even venture to say this is the best tool yet for Flash-a-holics. Thank you so much!
Sounds great, but what about warranty?
Do we lose it if we change hard spl?
worth to try....
This is really an evolution (or is it revolution? ).
lol this removed my spl 3.08,really amazing tool,thanks prislav,big thanks.
IS HardSPL necessary if CID Unlocked ???
I CID unlocked my G4 M600 with the known paid service.
So do i need to HardSPL my phone and why???
Please somebody explain...
as i think,if you have hardspl,you will never be able to brick your phone.correct me if i was wrong.
Can a G4 be bricked? I was under the impression that the G4 was unbrickable. All the bricks I've ever heard of were G3 devices. I mean one can get stuck at bootloader and the like, but I've always got my phone back. Even had a Wizard ROM on there, and even that didn't brick it (although that time I thought it was toast!)! Like zeroed said, it will help you get your SPL back if you have that problem, and I think it's just an amazing tool for flashing in general.
Panas78 said:
I CID unlocked my G4 M600 with the known paid service.
So do i need to HardSPL my phone and why???
Please somebody explain...
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Anyone pleaassseee ?????
I just need to be totally shure about this.. If i run this hard spl thingy patch on my G4 prophet i do not need to downgrade to wm5 everytime i want to try a new wm6 rom, if i currently are using a wm6 rom ?
And how do you guys flash a wm6 rom with the RUU utility ? I haven't seen any WM6 rom yet using RUU..
Just a little confused, sorry!
You wont need upgrading to wm5 - i recommend that you never flash full roms to avoid spl reflashing after hard-spl. the best practice will be to use nb2nbf to generate nbfs for your os, splash and gsm separately
Wait a second. Why should we avoid SPL reflashing after HardSPL??? I already flashed back to my original SPL and re-flashed HardSPL without any problem. What is the danger of doing this?