first of all, props to those who found the startup/shutdown sounds. happy to be rid of those.
now i bring you, speedy startups and shutdowns.
seems that there's a (delay) value, and splash screen designation. that the phone was designed to start up after, what appears to be, a full minute of delays.
i found these in the registry:
HKLM/System/Startup
and
HKLM/System/Shutdown
containing directories 1, 2, 3. (on my Cingular 3100)
the first is a DLL... best not mess with that. the same DLL both times.
on the startup side, #2, is the cingular splash screen (complete with delay duration)... #3, is the windows splash...
again, with delay.
keep in mind, i'm talking about values in these keys. (for those who might get lost)
i just deleted the #2 from both startup and shutdown, then deleted #3 from startup (which is the only place its found), and restarted.
immediately, there was no shutdown splash... and since there was no designated shutdown sound, my phone basicly turned off right away.
i started back up. i still saw the cingular splash (i figured it would be in the bootloader too), but it went away faster, bringing me to my home screen... everything from there, seemed to be as ready as it always was after the normal boot (aka, still loading PIM data, specificly appointments; and syncing the time/date with my service provider)...
i'm running the cingular rom, as i have the cingular model (the 3100)...
seems there are some gems in the registry that have yet to be tapped... i'm curious where the switch is to allow OBEX file transfers... if anyone finds it, let me know
finally, sorry if this has been discovered before. it's novel to me... havn't seen this one anywhere... if anyone with a non-cingular model is willing, please check to see what variables are there for the different copies of this phone, i'd be interested to know how much each company wants their logos to display (thus delaying their customers from using the phone)
... i think the Cingular splash timeout was somewhere in the range of 60000, but don't quote me.
Nice finding!
Mystick,
Thanks to share this finding. I'm currently using the original Dopod rom in my startrek (Dopod S300). Found 2 directories in the Startup and only 1 directory in the Shutdown. Deleted all. Now my startrek only shows the initial DOPOD logo, no longer the additional HTC smile and the windows splash. And no more DOPOD logo during shutdown too.
I wonder if this works for Hermes running WM6 too...?
arunraaj said:
Mystick,
Thanks to share this finding. I'm currently using the original Dopod rom in my startrek (Dopod S300). Found 2 directories in the Startup and only 1 directory in the Shutdown. Deleted all. Now my startrek only shows the initial DOPOD logo, no longer the additional HTC smile and the windows splash. And no more DOPOD logo during shutdown too.
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with mine, directory 1 ran "oemstartup.dll"... which i figure is probably important. i'm glad you're not having problems because of the change, but i'd warn against deleting any with DLLs values, the DLLs may be important to the normal operation of your phone.
i don't know the directory structure or what each DLL is supposed to accomplish, and thus, i try not to mess with it... but again, if it works, all the best. but like anything, this is an "at your own risk" change... and i only deleted the keys with values for splash/delay.
it really boils down to personal judgement and caution, i'm pretty cautious about messing up my phone, so i try not to make any drastic changes in DLLs or anything. but not everyone is like that.
oldominion said:
I wonder if this works for Hermes running WM6 too...?
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dunno about WM6. the keys might be the same, considering it's actually windows mobile 5.5.
there's a lot of startup-related things in the registry.. i'll try to post more of what i've found later.
I got a 3125 running the latest Cingular ROM and tried to delete 2 & 3 in startup and 2 in shutdown with PHM Regedit and it says action is not allowed. Let me know if there is something I'm missing or doing wrong. Thanks!
I have tried deleting these keys from my Dopod S301 wih the same (no) effect. I can edit some of the keys in the registry, but others (including these) appear to be locked by the system. Any ideas appreciated.
Mike
Related
When I try to run some programs, the only thing that happens is that the screen changes from landscape to portrait. Then NOTHING else happens. The program does not run and it does not show up in "Running Progams".
Here is an example program: PocketJig: http://www.lenagames.com/pj_files/pjig20.exe
I don't know if the program will not run in WM6 or if I have a REG problem.
Any ideas?
Many thanks.
Note: PocketJig is shareware and is shown here for example only. I you actually use the program, please register it.
Looked at the PocketJig site and it does not say it supports WM6 then again it does not say it does not I would recommend you contact the author of the software and inquire.
When I bought the program the author wrote to thank me. When I wrote to her about WM6 I never heard back from her.
The registery for that program calls up getrealdpi.exe before it calls up pjig.exe. It may be that pjig.exe is never actually called to run.
Most other programs do not have a call to getrealdpi.exe. That's why I think it may be a REG problem.
Try starting it up in portrait. I have a program that will not run at all if started while in lansdcape mode, but runs perfectly well if I'm in portrait mode when starting it.
Running in portrait MAY have been slightly better. At least the name of the program flashed onto the top of the screen for about 0.1 of a second and then shut down as usual.
Thanks for the suggestion.
Please make sure that your device is cid and sim unlocked before installing the rom - http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...80#post1354180 Also put your device into bootloader manually by pressing the camera button and softreset at the same time
Ok first I just want to say thanks to eaglesteve for helping me test new BT stacks however, I was unable to get a bt stack that would do file transfer to and from phone or laptop and still have it work for bt headsets. I should point out that the bt stack that is in there does work just not for everything some of the files are from the diamond and some are from ap4 and I personally have tested using BT headphones, BT mouse and BT keyboard all at the same time and it works pretty well. I also want to thank ervius for helping me with xip porting and to cmonex for helping with anything I needed help with and thanks to Anunnaki for the animated startup and anyone else I forgot about
I added new splash screens that are in line with the startup theme from my last rom, hope u guys like as I did it myself
Ultra Vanilla: build 19521.1.1.0
added total commander over file explorer
removed stuff from cpl reg
added custsk to config.txt
fixed welcomehead startup
switched band to auto
changed quickgps reg settings to 7 days
changed default phone skin
enabled autotimezone
added tcpmp and all plugins in place of wmp
added easy config for wimp with hardrest option (will be explained in download folder)
Of course this is a uc compliant rom if you are unfamiliar with this then click on the link to find out how to make a sdconfig.txt file so all your apps are loaded automatically http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=366337
I have removed about 22mb of stuff but I kept all the reg settings and intflashfiles.dat settings also. So if you want to add any of that stuff back into the rom just copy it to your device and it should work.
There are no screen shots as this is Ultra Vanilla so there is not much to show off
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SPL 1.2
Megaupload: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=JUMZDFSC
RapidShare: http://rapidshare.com/files/124525912/irus_ultra_vanilla.zip.html
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SPL 3.5
Megaupload: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=WIHKNYO2
RapidShare: http://rapidshare.com/files/124540958/irus_ultra_lite_spl_3.5.zip.html
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this should have just about everything you can think of. file size is 113.13MB enjoy
Addons - http://www.megaupload.com/?d=1PNOJ4GM
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incredible!!!
thanks for sharing.
do you know about registry editor from total commander? Looks is not included
looks the button assignation for networks is lost (right side, over power button)and commmgr.exe is not present
Irus,
I just installed it and have the following questions/concerns:
1. I can't find comm manager so I can't turn on wifi.
2. My previous taxis/irus rom did not have any keyboards installed and I liked that about ultra-lite.
3. no real vga to alter dpi (can I install this separately?).
apap said:
Irus,
I just installed it and have the following questions/concerns:
1. I can't find comm manager so I can't turn on wifi.
2. My previous taxis/irus rom did not have any keyboards installed and I liked that about ultra-lite.
3. no real vga to alter dpi (can I install this separately?).
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different people use different comm managers so i left it out
i kept default keyboard so people could choose their own
you can install that yourself
Ok.
Could you (or someone) point me to a comm manager and the realvga software to download.
Thanks!
apap said:
Ok.
Could you (or someone) point me to a comm manager and the realvga software to download.
Thanks!
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im so sorry i forgot to add a addons package. i will do that tomorrow it will have almost everything you can think of.
Camera
Does the camera work on SPL 1.2 ??
hammermedia said:
Does the camera work on SPL 1.2 ??
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it should, it does for me
I am uploading the addons it will be posted in the post 1 in about 5 mins
beginner said:
thanks for sharing.
do you know about registry editor from total commander? Looks is not included
looks the button assignation for networks is lost (right side, over power button)and commmgr.exe is not present
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the comm manager is located in the deleted folder just copy it along the other files that are assoiated with it to the windows dir and it should work
GPS is good this time. Cold fix took 1 minutes and 44 seconds outdoor under clear blue sky. The same spot that I stood when I tested the Chinese ROM, which incidentally took more than 6 minutes. But Sprite Terminator still does not work. I think it does not work in WM6.1 period. With Wm6.0 it works.
Noticed an error when trying to navigate to bluetooth folder.
Also, it is strange that a number of my application acquired a generic icon for the application rather than the proper icon. Does anyone else have this problem? Edit: icon appeared after a soft reset.
Still installing application, but it feels fast. I think you have a winner here.
eaglesteve said:
GPS is good this time. Cold fix took 1 minutes and 44 seconds outdoor under clear blue sky. The same spot that I stood when I tested the Chinese ROM, which incidentally took more than 6 minutes. But Sprite Terminator still does not work. I think it does not work in WM6.1 period. With Wm6.0 it works.
Noticed an error when trying to navigate to bluetooth folder.
Also, it is strange that a number of my application acquired a generic icon for the application rather than the proper icon. Does anyone else have this problem? Edit: icon appeared after a soft reset.
Still installing application, but it feels fast. I think you have a winner here.
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to be honest i noticed better gps fix but i thought it might be tomtom7 as i got a cold fix in under 5 min from in my house and did not use quickgps. so glad to here its not just me. also i know about BT problem i was trying to get the ms stack and the other stack that you tried that worked on file transfers, to coexist but no luck. glad you like it
Truly admire your passion, will only possible to test your latest on week-end.
irus,
I thought you had WIMP cooked in, but can't seem to find it.
Your spalsh screen is nice. The only thing I'm uncomfortable is the fact that you advertise to the potential thief how to do hard and soft reset. I'd rather that info be extremely difficult for the thief to obtain.
Cheers.
I wonder if it is just me. I noticed that occasionally the device seems to refuse to reflesh /update the screen, showing completely wrong info and image. For example, the icon of application often does not get instantly updated after an installation. When I was using my eWallet, when I click on the Field tab, it is not showing the screen for that but from whatever was left behind just before this. Some strange behaviour.
There is something strange with some drivers i think.. TT6 (i've installed the common application for anu LITE rom) screen refresh is very slow, changing menus I see a "fading" slow effect and a sloooow refresh rate. (you used net cf 3.5 right?)
Other suggestion
1)I will suggest to remove customer experience
2) Default sounds aren't working
3) too many SIP, they waste resources and memory
sergiopi said:
There is something strange with some drivers i think.. TT6 (i've installed the common application for anu LITE rom) screen refresh is very slow, changing menus I see a "fading" slow effect and a sloooow refresh rate. (you used net cf 3.5 right?)
Other suggestion
1)I will suggest to remove customer experience
2) Default sounds aren't working
3) too many SIP, they waste resources and memory
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I think so too. The refreshing of screen is not functioning normally.
Anyone having problem setting up email accounts and connecting to them? I took several attempts before I managed to set up email account. It did not see the service provider I had set up before. My service provider was strangely not on the pull down list when I tried setting it up manually. Later, after it was set up, attempt to download mail results in something to the effect of invalid settings for connection.
eaglesteve said:
irus,
I thought you had WIMP cooked in, but can't seem to find it.
Your spalsh screen is nice. The only thing I'm uncomfortable is the fact that you advertise to the potential thief how to do hard and soft reset. I'd rather that info be extremely difficult for the thief to obtain.
Cheers.
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that is a good point, i can redo it and give wrong info they keep hitting the ok button with no success
This small tool was originally inspired by this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=432966
About
WMRegOptimizer is a small tool that tries to optimize registry access - "defrag" it, if you will. It doesn't perfectly defrag it, but it goes a long way. This results in somewhat faster registry access for applications where this is the bottle-neck.
So this speeds up my device?
Not really. It lowers latency for certain system calls, which may result in some things being a bit faster. It doesn't magically make your device faster, but it may be more responsive in some situations.
Instructions
Install the attached CAB on your device, and run WMRegOptimizer from your start menu.
Before pressing Go, make sure you do the following things:
- Close all running applications
- Uncradle the device
- Put the device in airplane mode
- Be sure your battery isn't on the low side
After the app says it's done, close it, and soft-reset your device.
The app may appear to freeze at times. Do not soft-reset or terminate the app. It will continue. The entire process may take up to 5 minutes.
Things going wrong is unlikely but by no means impossible, we want to minimize that chance. We do this by making sure as few apps and services as possible are using the registry. Mucking about with the registry is a dangerous thing, and if things do go wrong, often a hard-reset is needed to put things right again.
Why soft-reset
Some apps 'monitor' the registry, these will be informed of the changes. This is why you may for example get a QuickGPS popup or your backlight will go to full-power all of a sudden when the app is running. Soft-resetting makes these apps reread the correct data from the registry. The whole operation also messes with the registry a LOT, and this slows down the device as well (probably a bug or memory/handle leak in registry handling somewhere in WM). Again, soft-resetting clears this up.
Testing
This tool has been tested on my Raphael (Touch Pro), Diamond and Kaiser (TyTN II), and seems to work fine. Your milage may vary. The interface isn't much, but hey, it's about what it does
PROVIDED "AS-IS". USE AT YOUR OWN RISK. DO NOT REDISTRIBUTE.
DO NOT USE THIS APPLICATION ON A STOCK ROM, YOU WILL BE SORRY. Custom ROMs usually have the right registry permissions/policies to do this, but if not, there's a bigger chance things may go wrong.
Chainfire you are amazing. Thank you for all your valuable contributions!
hahaha...
...will give this a swirl and report back...thanks for the creation!....am i correct in thinking that sktools has a similar feature with reg optimizer...
Faster = Better
Thank you for sharing.
Best regards,
-boggsie
Installed and ran the program , worked great !
Great job !
thank you very much Chainfire
it works fine on my polaris. thanks man
sounds good. Thanks 4 sharing.
Cool for Diamond
Hi Chainfire, thanks for the tool. I've just run it on my Diamond and everything still works I'm happy to say. I can't notice any immediate difference but then I didn't expect too, any way seems to be a good app. with no diamond issues, Thanks again.
So would you recommend running this regularly, I seem to install and un-install stuff all day long, so is this reg. defrag going to help keep my phone in slick order?
no good with my tilt,when i soft reset as said to do when it was finished it reset but got stuck on bootscreen
yes! its works!
thank you very much for your great program! I installed it on my Gene P3400 (lomlom's 20755 rom with manila2d), it definitely response quickly when try to go to setting - system, it is also have improvement when I try to make a call, it is much more faster when I try to send a sms from my contact list, strongly recommended to all Gene P3400 user!
Installed and ran it on my sprint mogul. All is well. Thank you for this, dschoenike
oh, nice thingy, will test it ASAP.
thank you, working great on my kaiser!
steph
Seemed to work fine.
The only issue that I had is the completion percentage never exceeded 80% even though the text eventually updated to Complete or whatever the done message happens to be.
Best regards,
-boggsie
uniqueboy said:
So would you recommend running this regularly, I seem to install and un-install stuff all day long, so is this reg. defrag going to help keep my phone in slick order?
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Not really. It may help, but it's unclear how fast this whole registry muck-up is, it really depends on your usage of the device. I'd say once a month would be more than adequite for even a heavy user. Unless you notice your device is getting slower and slower, then give it a shot.
Or in short: who knows
boggsie said:
Seemed to work fine.
The only issue that I had is the completion percentage never exceeded 80% even though the text eventually updated to Complete or whatever the done message happens to be.
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That probably means that at 80% it got to a registry key it was not able to manipulate and aborted the operation (note that 99% of the time it will abort in such a case before it 'damages' your setup). Not to worry though, at 80%, you've had pretty much all the registry keys who 'fragment' a lot and cause the slowdowns.
I'll add some code in the next version that just skips the relevant key or gives you an actual error message or whatever
I don't see any change for the moment, but thks you for your job
thanks for this, trialing it out and will report soon, done it and it seems to have improved, any improvement is good improvement for a device this old, until I get my touch 3G!
Cheers!!
Edit it seems to be good for the hermes, the only downside if it is a downside is that it removed my wallpaper, which I can re set by going to the today screen config anyway. But everything seems swell. SPB mobile shell 2.1 crashes less with this, normally it would crash for me once in a day after heavy use. Hasn't yet touch wood.
So ... all in all, I think follow the instructions good for the hermes.
Thanks, i install and run it on my POlaris with the RTM from M-amine.
See any change for the moment, i just lost my register manila weather city and my manila favorite contact after rebooting.
(that's not important i'll add them again)
I have just installed and run on my TP. No problem
Thanks.
MOD: Please move if I posted in the wrong forum
There appear to be some serious problems with the latest kitchen for the Herman. I can't find much through extensive searches so I'm posting to see if anyone else if having similar problems. All work was performed on a 2-day old Sprint Touch Pro unlocked with HardSPL 0.37.
1. HTC YouTube does not work at all. Error: "The file 'YouTube' cannot be opened. Either it is not signed with a trusted certificate, or one of its components cannot be found." I don't know if it's a signing problem or just a missing file (exe is there). I've tried 4-5 other installations (ranging from straight VGA, Diamond dump, YouTube QVGA + VGA skin, ghetto patching, and even a French one which works great except that the sound doesn't work). I tried cooking a very simple rom with just YouTube selected and still got the same error, as well as in built 20924 and 20755 (no change).
SOLVED: Install HTC TouchFlo (non-3D) and YouTube will work! Credit: http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=47737
2. Audio Manager does not work in HTC Home - same error as above. I do not know if it's a missing DLL or a security issue yet. If it's not selected in the kitchen, same error appears AND TF3D errors out on the Sprint Music tab (whereas it works fine otherwise). I tried installing from a cab but got the same error.
3. Battery level is not displayed as a percentage in the stock power applet, neither 1% nor 5% makes a difference. The stock Sprint ROM had the percentage above the bar indicator. I even created an empty rom without any selections and the percentage is still missing.
4. Startup animation doesn't work unless its OEM is selected ("Startup Animation" in BOOT OPTIONS). This is the first time I've changed the animation because the Sprint one is actually a 320x240 GIF expanded to 640x480 --> grainy. Leaving it at 'Default' still overwrites the animation on the phone. The result is a black screen instead of an animation + a system error beep (for file not found I assume).
5. TF3D lags for 5 seconds on Internet tab. With just TF3D installed (meaning Manila - Sprint_Raphael) or with anything else, it takes a good 5sec for the Browser/Youtube/PPC icons to be rendered in the Internet tab. It's much quicker in the stock Sprint rom and nue's rom 217. 5 seconds is a pretty long time when waiting for the ability to open the browser.
That's not to say that the kitchen is bad. On the contrary, I'm very pleased with it and the rom's overall performance. I've cooked my roms since the Apache days and more recently my Mogul, which benefitted the most from removing bloadware. Anyway, I think that the resolution to the 5 points above would make the cooked rom's perfect IMO.
Thanks for reading!
quick99si said:
MOD: Please move if I posted in the wrong forum
There appear to be some serious problems with the latest kitchen for the Herman. I can't find much through extensive searches so I'm posting to see if anyone else if having similar problems. All work was performed on a 2-day old Sprint Touch Pro unlocked with HardSPL 0.37.
1. HTC YouTube does not work at all. Error: "The file 'YouTube' cannot be opened. Either it is not signed with a trusted certificate, or one of its components cannot be found." I don't know if it's a signing problem or just a missing file (exe is there). I've tried 4-5 other installations (ranging from straight VGA, Diamond dump, YouTube QVGA + VGA skin, ghetto patching, and even a French one which works great except that the sound doesn't work). I tried cooking a very simple rom with just YouTube selected and still got the same error, as well as in built 20924 and 20755 (no change).
2. Audio Manager does not work in HTC Home - same error as above. I do not know if it's a missing DLL or a security issue yet. If it's not selected in the kitchen, same error appears AND TF3D errors out on the Sprint Music tab (whereas it works fine otherwise). I tried installing from a cab but got the same error.
3. Battery level is not displayed as a percentage in the stock power applet, neither 1% nor 5% makes a difference. The stock Sprint ROM had the percentage above the bar indicator. I even created an empty rom without any selections and the percentage is still missing.
4. Startup animation doesn't work unless its OEM is selected ("Startup Animation" in BOOT OPTIONS). This is the first time I've changed the animation because the Sprint one is actually a 320x240 GIF expanded to 640x480 --> grainy. Leaving it at 'Default' still overwrites the animation on the phone. The result is a black screen instead of an animation + a system error beep (for file not found I assume).
5. TF3D lags for 5 seconds on Internet tab. With just TF3D installed (meaning Manila - Sprint_Raphael) or with anything else, it takes a good 5sec for the Browser/Youtube/PPC icons to be rendered in the Internet tab. It's much quicker in the stock Sprint rom and nue's rom 217. 5 seconds is a pretty long time when waiting for the ability to open the browser.
That's not to say that the kitchen is bad. On the contrary, I'm very pleased with it and the rom's overall performance. I've cooked my roms since the Apache days and more recently my Mogul, which benefitted the most from removing bloadware. Anyway, I think that the resolution to the 5 points above would make the cooked rom's perfect IMO.
Thanks for reading!
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I noted everything you noted as well. What carrier are you on? Im VZW and thought it was just our phones.
Haven't had any problems you mentioned in my 20931 port-- it's for GSM though
pfcsabre said:
Haven't had any problems you mentioned in my 20931 port-- it's for GSM though
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Totally differnt. The GSM port is not the Herman kitchen, its the Raph kitchen.
We use a diffetn kitchen so you all on GSM will not see the same results.
scrosler said:
Totally differnt. The GSM port is not the Herman kitchen, its the Raph kitchen.
We use a diffetn kitchen so you all on GSM will not see the same results.
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I know. Just rubbing it in
scrosler said:
I noted everything you noted as well. What carrier are you on? Im VZW and thought it was just our phones.
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Herman (Sprint CDMA). Those issues show up in all 3 builds found within the kitchen
YouTube problem is fixed by selecting HTC TouchFLO in the kitchen, as explained at: http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=47737
For NEON 400 users only!
Please do not even consider flashing this rom unless your device is a NEON 400. That's the Canadian Telus/Bell version of the HTC Touch Dual. If you don't know how to find out the model number... then I suggest you do some more reading before you consider flashing any roms.
Hey All,
My old phone died so I recently became the proud owner of the HTC Touch Dual NEON 400. Long story short I unlocked it (Thanks to jockyw2001) and found that there are no Chefs out there with this device. There's a couple dedicated dudes out there trying to help all of us NEON 400 users (Talking about you Rataplan, deepankerjha), but since they don't actually have this device it's pretty tough for them to prepare and test a rom for us.
So, I took the plunge. With Rataplan's help (thanks a lot buddy, couldn't have gotten this far without you're help) I've been cooking away and have a solid WM 6.5 ROM here for us. It's based on the Telus stock ROM and WM 6.5 build 21914. I haven't yet cleared all the extra's (so it's a bit fat) but in my testing so far it's 100% functional and bug free (well, as bug free as WM can be )
I can't guarantee how well it'll work on the Bell NEON 400's, but if you have a Telus device, this should do the trick. I'm using it right now on mine.
Please leave feedback if you try this ROM out. I am still a novice chef, but I'll take feedback to heart, and I'll continue cooking and optimizing roms for the NEON 400 as I learn more and get better.
Happy Flashing!
I'll post updates as they come.
UPDATE:
Sorry all, but in my quest to migrate to the Android OS I've ditched my Neon in favour of the Vogue. I'll upload the Lite ROM I was working on for those who want it. The only thing I was having trouble with was the GPS, apart from that the ROM runs very nicely with the extra weight of the cube and other fat removed. Feel free to PM me if you have questions, I'll do my best to help if I can.
Give me a few days to do a fresh build of the Lite ROM and to take one more stab at getting the GPS working.
Okay my final roms are up. Hopefully Rataplan will have the links posted below shortly.
Lite Version: 1.01 - 1.03
-WM 6.5 Build 21914
-TouchFlo Cube removed
-A bunch of other bundled HTC/Telus packages removed
-GPS is still flaky
Version: 2.01
-WM 6.5 Build 21914
-Nothing removed, All stock HTC and Telus packages remain
EDIT I can't post links just yet, so Rataplan's going to help me out with that, check his post below for the download links.
Here are the links:
NEON400_201 Added 19th August
NEON400_Lite_101 Added 9th November
NEON400_Lite_102 Added 9th November
NEON400_Lite_103 Added 9th November
Loaded on my Bell NEON400. Took a while to get to setup and made a few bleeps along the way, now it's at the "Customization" part. Will update as I finish setup and test it out.
EDIT: Finished installation, looks pretty good, will test calling and texting as we go. Any chance we can strip the Telus crap out of it though? Hate seeing "Telus" everywhere when it's not even a Telus phone.
EDIT 2: Trying to set up ActiveSync to sync with my Google Account - it freezes every so often for a short while and won't respond to taps or key presses. Seems to be common in all applications. Also, the keys operate but the backlight never turns on for them (disregard that - they do work, see Edit 4).
EDIT 3: Hitting the X to close a window doesn't kill the app like it did in WM 6.1. Not sure if this normal behaviour or not (first time flasher).
EDIT 4: After a reboot the key backlight is working again. When I try changing the keyboard however to a full QWERTY layout the setting never saves and always reverts to the "touch keypad" or whatever it is (same problem in WM 6.1 so it's a setting issue not a ROM issue - disregard please).
If you could get rid of the Telus branding everywhere and see what's up with the freezing this ROM would be perfect!
Nice job.
got_milk, Thanks for testing on your Bell device. Like I said in the post I wasn't sure what to expect on a Bell phone. I'm working on a lite version right now with the Telus stuff stripped out. I'm also trying to remove the added weight from HTC like the touchflo cube (I really hate that thing...)
I've noticed the problem with the X button not closing apps. It seems in WM 6.5 it just sort of minimizes them. Although if I recall there's a setting somewhere that lets you set it so you can close an app by holding the X instead of just tapping it. I'll look into that some more.
In regards to the responsiveness one thing I've noticed is that when memory is low I sometimes have to tap and hold the buttons for a moment before they register. I initially thought it just wasn't reading the hits but found by accident that I could make it work by holding it for an extra moment. Hopefully this won't be a problem once I get my Lite version working.
I highly recommend downloading and installing Finger Keyboard. It's my favourite by far. I can't post links yet, but the thread where I found it is titled:
\\\\\\\\\ F i n g e r K e y b o a r d 2 ///////// v2.1 - NOW ONLINE - all resolutions
One other thought: If you could hook me up with the ROM you're using as the stock Bell ROM I could recreate this 6.5 ROM using it as the base. This might solve some of your problems too.
Thanks again for testing!
Not a problem, thank you more for doing this! I really hate how we're limited to WinMo 6.1, when we clearly have a 6.5 capable device.
I'm using the stock Bell ROM from jockyw2001's HardSPL post (stickied at the top of this forum).
Looking forward to the lite edition, I will certainly test it when you release it.
So, I couldn't stay away (Software Engineering student...lol). I set up my own kitchen and started to cook using a stock Bell ROM. I've managed to strip all the Bell crap + the HTC cube and make a nice clean ROM.
However!
I've encountered one bug so far. On the home screen, where "Text" should be, it's simply blank and clicking it gets me to the main Outlook menu (where I choose Text Messages or Outlook E-mail). I can also not create text messages or reply to them. I know we've hit this roadblock before but no one's said how they got around it.
I also don't have data working at all - it's not being configured automatically (I think the Bell customization wizard does this, but it's disabled).
EDIT: Okay, it's as I suspected. There's a connection.xml file that's part of the Bell scripts that is added to handle data access. Anyone know how I can add data as part of the ROM package?
For sms take a look at this post from 88fingerslukee,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6961719&postcount=49
Regards,
That registry edit is just enabling/disabling threaded SMS...in my case SMS doesn't work at all (I can receive and view SMS') but I can't create any new ones or reply to them.
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That registry edit is just enabling/disabling threaded SMS...in my case SMS doesn't work at all (I can receive and view SMS') but I can't create any new ones or reply to them.
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Okay, did you select webview in the sys-part of your kitchen.
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Okay, did you select webview in the sys-part of your kitchen.
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Yes, it's essential anyway so I get prompted if it's not included. It's not part of WM build 21914 however...
So I've tried with a bunch of different WM builds, new kitchen setups, and everything I can think of under the sun.
Data works out of the box - it's just not enabled by default. If you go into the comm manager and enable data it seems to work.
SMS is still broken. When it's not highlighted right above the text 'Text' it displays 'No notif...'. Highlighting 'Text' gives you absolutely no text at all and your option for that is 'View', which takes you to your call list.
I've cooked all day and yet I cannot get this to work at all. I'm rolling back to WM 6.1 until I can find a solution.
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So I've tried with a bunch of different WM builds, new kitchen setups, and everything I can think of under the sun.
Data works out of the box - it's just not enabled by default. If you go into the comm manager and enable data it seems to work.
SMS is still broken. When it's not highlighted right above the text 'Text' it displays 'No notif...'. Highlighting 'Text' gives you absolutely no text at all and your option for that is 'View', which takes you to your call list.
I've cooked all day and yet I cannot get this to work at all. I'm rolling back to WM 6.1 until I can find a solution.
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got_milk, way to go bud! Glad to have another new chef in the kitchen. I wont bother cooking a Bell ROM as you're already on track. My Lite ROM is gonna be a while anyway. Between wife, kids, job, and house... I just don't have a whole lot of time to tinker.
In regards to your SMS problem, I might be able to help. I too had problems getting SMS to work when I started working on my Lite ROM. After some trial and error what I found fixed it was to include two files from the OEMAPPS pkg.
Strip out all the crap from OEMAPPS you don't want and make sure that these two files remain, then include the package in your next build:
234f3319-55a2-46a3-be32-24530a643a0f.dsm
234f3319-55a2-46a3-be32-24530a643a0f.rgu
I'll be honest, I didn't do any research on the significance of these files, I just happened upon it by chance.
Good Luck!
Aha! I shall do another cook tonight and see if that does the trick.
EDIT: You sir, are a brilliant genius. I didn't have the .rgu version but the .dsm was there. Deleted everything out of OEMAPPS but that, cooked and flashed, and texting works now.
Thanks a ton!
Excellent! Glad I could help
So, my two bugs I've noticed so far...
No data. EV-DO is available, looks like it has to be set up manually. Anyone know how we can incorporate this into the cooking? I've tried ADC but it doesn't work, says it's not a valid Pocket PC application every time the phone boots up.
Also, the buttons along the top (sound, data, etc) work normally in the home screen, but enter any app and while the icons remain the same their functions have now been shifted one to the left. (Volume becomes Close, Data becomes Volume, etc).
When I first started a Lite ROM I stripped my Operator EXT packages. That killed my data. I put'em back to work on the OEM pkg's. I haven't had time to dissect the EXT packages yet to find the pieces we need for data. Whichever one of us figures that out first will have to share it with the other
For now I'm still picking through the OEM packages finding all the pieces I want/need to keep.
Not sure about your taskbar buttons, might be related to that handy tasks dropdown item that's usually on the far right (like a quickview task manager you can use to close running apps) I don't know if that's a WM feature, or something HTC bundled in.
That's an HTC bundled application (TaskManager.exe in OEMApps). I removed it and the bug's still there. You don't have this problem?
Data is handled via Connection.xml which is injected - somehow - during the "Customization" process. You CAN do it yourself manually - simply add a new connection and have it dial #777.
There's not much in the EXT packages - and what's there is impossible to tell for now, I'll dissect more and see what's there.
Strange, when I hit any of the buttons along that top taskbar it just opens up a bubble with icons for each of the options available, and then select an item from the bubble. Individually the icons along the top don't actually do anything for me, they all just open this bubble.
Right, which is the normal behaviour - it's when you actually select an icon from that bubble that everything appears to have shifted one position to the left.
Try it at the home screen and then in an application.
Also, looks like data is handled via "Connection.xml" which is placed inside the Windows folder (I'm back to stock 6.1 to check file locations). If I try to put that inside OEMApps or whatever and have that copy over though it doesn't end up in the Windows folder as far as I can tell.
I'm also trying to strip out the more unnecessary stuff, however, the camera always breaks and says the app is missing files to run. I can get rid of the cube, and everything else, but I'd like to leave the camera function behind (strips 30MB off the ROM if I clean everything else out). But the camera doesn't work.
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Right, which is the normal behaviour - it's when you actually select an icon from that bubble that everything appears to have shifted one position to the left.
Try it at the home screen and then in an application.
Also, looks like data is handled via "Connection.xml" which is placed inside the Windows folder (I'm back to stock 6.1 to check file locations). If I try to put that inside OEMApps or whatever and have that copy over though it doesn't end up in the Windows folder as far as I can tell.
I'm also trying to strip out the more unnecessary stuff, however, the camera always breaks and says the app is missing files to run. I can get rid of the cube, and everything else, but I'd like to leave the camera function behind (strips 30MB off the ROM if I clean everything else out). But the camera doesn't work.
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Ok it seems that you found each other, hopefully it will result in a perfect NEON400 rom, whish you guy's all the best and if I can help, just ask.
Some usefull links:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=564130
http://winbreak.com/winmo/voguegoodies/
Greetz,