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Hello,
I've got my TyTN in europe (ROM 1.18.256.104) and my "usb" car charger is not working (charge sometime but ONLY if my TyTn is switched off....not usefull for GPS...)
I've tried another one same problem...restested with my 9100 : ok .
Is it due to the charging load ???
Anyone experiencing the same problem ???
Cheers
André
If I remember correctly the 9100 used an 800mA charger and the TyTn uses a 1A charger. That could be your problem.
hello,
same problem, but charging work on laptop (normally laptop is unable to offer more than 500ma).
I've read an article with C500 where charging work when pin 4 of the usb cable was linked with gnd. Is the same problem with Tytn ?
cheers
Tom
yep, had the same problem too with a standard charger with usb cable.
the charger output was 500mA. it stopped charging after a few seconds.
Recently i bought a Brodit carholder with the charger included. This charger has 1000mA output and its charging without problems.
So you need at least a 1000mA(1A) charger, otherwise it will not work well.
yep, had the same problem too with a standard charger with usb cable.
the charger output was 500mA. it stopped charging after a few seconds.
Recently i bought a Brodit carholder with the charger included. This charger has 1000mA output and its charging without problems.
So you need at least a 1000mA(1A) charger, otherwise it will not work well.
Thanks Luminus for the Reply, But are you sure there is no electronic part added on this car charger ? :?
Strange enough, both my car charger and USB Mains adapter (1A output) (which I was using for O2 Mini and Dopod 818Pro without any problem) was charging fine on my Dopod 838Pro, but the unit had a problem and I was given a new unit. This unit now does not work with my car charger nor the USB Mains adapter.
Looks like a trip down to the service centre again!
it was a cigarettelighterplug adaper with a usb output, with a regular usb/miniusb cable. the adapter was 500mA.( input 12V/output/5V)
it was a complete kit. you could use it for anything you want.
I only attached the TyTN to this adapter.
the adapter couldn't hold it, the amps exceeded the 500mA and stopped loading. the adapter still works on other devices.
the brodit has the same type of adapter, only with a fixed cable on it and 1000mA. this works perfect.
thats why i think that you need a 1000mA one to get it charging.
Hello,
Perhaps true perhaps not...
I used an official Qtek charger -> 1A ..it work
But not sure that due to the 1A because tried to use a self powered USB Hub and it work too ... I will check the official Qtek car charger (if nothing specific)
I use several chargers. i notice that sometimes, if a charger will only charge the device when switched off, i soft reset the device and then it will charge when on. strange problem. the problem of not charging when on, also occurs with chargers that for sure have over 1 amp.
Same problem here......tried to use the mini usb charger I got with my Leadtek BT GPS mouse......
Sometimes it will charge.....sometimes not....
Problem seems to occur when I switch the device on....ie receiving a phonecall or a textmessage....
It then stops charging only to resume after the phone goes back into stby mode....
Weird.....
Danny.
I have the same problem. I have HTC TyTN and 1A car lighter charger with normal USB cable.
Charging from normal, regular charger works. Charging from computer's USB works. Charging from car adapter works only sometimes.
I've tested about ten different car chargers, including one 2A - still nothing.
I've done factory reset of TyTN - after reset it was working for two days.
I have installed only few essential for me programs and no tweaks.
Cable is tested and working.
It makes no difference if I connect device turned on or off. It makes no difference if I reset device connected.
I have no more ideas...
I kept having the same problem but I think I've solved it.
I went into a T-Mobile shop and bought the 'official' car charger for T-Mobile SDA/MDA and I haven't had the problem since.
I've no idea what it's current rating is, because it has no relevant markings on, but it does get pretty warm in use!
help
I am really confused.
I have the sync wire that came with my device. It has stopped working as a charger from the laptop and I can;t active sync. I can however, de-activate the usb link and use the cable to activate my phone as a modem for the pc, so in theory it works at some level.
I also have another lead which is a compact one and it is giving me the same problem.
Both worked until this week so it isn't a case of them not being compatable.
Any ideas. I depserately need to sync. I can charge from the plug so thats no problem.
ahh
I have repaired actve sync and it seems to be ok now. I have no idea what happened.
Does anybody charge their TyTN in car via a usb car charger. I use a usb car charger for different devices: Bluetooth headset, gps reciever...
I also used it to recharge my Blue Angel.
Unfortunately I can't charge the TyTN. Has anyone had the same issue?
The charger says that it can charge 1Ampere. The original home charger is also 1 Ampere, so I don't understand why it doesn't work.
Have tried it with two different usb car chargers and both have the same problem: It charges only if TyTN is turned off. When I switch it on then the red charging light turns off.
Lio said:
Does anybody charge their TyTN in car via a usb car charger. I use a usb car charger for different devices: Bluetooth headset, gps reciever...
I also used it to recharge my Blue Angel.
Unfortunately I can't charge the TyTN. Has anyone had the same issue?
The charger says that it can charge 1Ampere. The original home charger is also 1 Ampere, so I don't understand why it doesn't work.
Have tried it with two different usb car chargers and both have the same problem: It charges only if TyTN is turned off. When I switch it on then the red charging light turns off.
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I had similar problems except I didn't need to swithc the pda. I saw the usb charge couldn't charge completly or it was very slow to charge if I had screen with light or TomTom running.
I solved using a diferent charger, that generates 220 volts. It has 140W and costs around 40 euro.
Do you have a link, a picture or a brand name to this product?
Lio said:
Does anybody charge their TyTN in car via a usb car charger. I use a usb car charger for different devices: Bluetooth headset, gps reciever...
I also used it to recharge my Blue Angel.
Unfortunately I can't charge the TyTN. Has anyone had the same issue?
The charger says that it can charge 1Ampere. The original home charger is also 1 Ampere, so I don't understand why it doesn't work.
Have tried it with two different usb car chargers and both have the same problem: It charges only if TyTN is turned off. When I switch it on then the red charging light turns off.
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Same problem.
I was told by the dealer that it's a matter o cable (the pins in the cable)
the one sold with the device is fine just to sync and charge from pc, but can't charge through car adapter.
I'm bought a new cable (arriving next week): it's a double cable, one side for pc, other side for charging.
if it works, I'll post..
bye
I'm afraid to tell you that your new cable will not work. You were not well informed. I am sure that it is not a cable problem, but a charger problem. According to me the power output expressed in Amps (Ampere) is not strong enough even though it says that it's 1 Ampere as the mains charger. Those cheap chinese made chargers are not strong enough for the TyTN. That's why it charges when the TyTN is switched off but as soon as you switch it on, the power output from usb car charger is not enough.
Lio said:
I'm afraid to tell you that your new cable will not work. You were not well informed. I am sure that it is not a cable problem, but a charger problem. According to me the power output expressed in Amps (Ampere) is not strong enough even though it says that it's 1 Ampere as the mains charger. Those cheap chinese made chargers are not strong enough for the TyTN. That's why it charges when the TyTN is switched off but as soon as you switch it on, the power output from usb car charger is not enough.
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mmhhh, I'll wait the new cable, hoping it works ;.)
the fact is that with original cable the car adapter doesn't charge even if the device is off..
same thing with a 220V usb adapter.
only the original kit seems to work..
I'll tell you in a few days
btw: both adapter are chinese ;-)
Nope, Lio is right on this one. The car charger simply doesn't supply enough juice to charge the TyTN. O2 Exec users have had this problem for ages.
I use the charger bought from the Orange shop for the spv c500. Works fine, if a little slowly.
There are strange things happening!
The USB cable should not enter in to the equation as USB is USB and the pins should be wired correctly.
Here is what I have found.
If charging in the car all is ok until the power is cut, then it only charges whilst off until the TYTN is soft reset. This looks to me like there is a software / powercontroller confilct. It is a little confusing but see the scenarios below;
Soft reset TYTN, leave it off. Plug in to cigarette charger, turn TYTN on/off all is fine.
Turn off TYTN and unplug, all is fine, plug back in (TYTN off) will still charge when TYTN on.
Turn TYTN on, unplug, will not charge whilst on anymore until soft reset but will charge whilst off.
This is the same if I turn the ignition to power the lightere socket.
However, another spanner in the works, if I pull out the charger even with the device off and re-insert it it stops charging until soft reset.
What seemd to work best was to do a soft reset whilst the unit is charging and powered on. After that I was able to unplug, plug in even when the unit was on, turn ignition off/on etc... It only reverted back to not charging when I removed the charger from the socket as it was charging.
These are my findings and I presume each charger will be different.
I presume whatever electronics are in the chargers also causes problems. I have tried 2 USB and one fully wired charger and it is the same with all. I know for a fact that at least 2 of them have overcharge circuitry built in but do not think the 3rd has, I also presume the TYTN also has so perhaps there is some conflict here also.
I do know that there are car chargers specifically for the TYTN so will try one of those and see if it solves the problem. (anyone tried one?)
Anyone with more ideas please let us know.
What seemd to work best was to do a soft reset whilst the unit is charging and powered on. After that I was able to unplug, plug in even when the unit was on, turn ignition off/on etc... It only reverted back to not charging when I removed the charger from the socket as it was charging.
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Thank you for this tip. Now I can recharge in car thanks to u! :lol: I tried it and it works.
Great Lio,
Glad it worked. When you get a chance, could you pull out the chrger from the lighter socket as it is charging and let me know if it then stops charging again. I just want to see if the same happens to you as it did to me. It will work again once you soft reset whilst plugged in.
Thanks.
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What seemd to work best was to do a soft reset whilst the unit is charging and powered on.
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I believe this trick should go to FAQ.
A week ago I visited a lot of shops trying many mains-to-USB charges to no avail. I already had one for MP3 player that didn't work too.
After reading your post, I connected the original charger and SRed. Now that another charger works!
Can't imagine what's the reason but it really works.
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could you pull out the chrger from the lighter socket as it is charging and let me know if it then stops charging again.
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Yes, it does exactly like you've described.
Originally Posted by cieplowski
could you pull out the chrger from the lighter socket as it is charging and let me know if it then stops charging again.
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Same here.
Is this a bug in the software ?
I found this : http://www.expansys.com/product.asp?code=138248
I think it should work fine, I am not sure.
"I found this : http://www.expansys.com/product.asp?code=138248"
Could you contact them and ask about its power rating and whether it is susceptible to the problem/bug?
here I am again.
finally I got the new cable and... surprise... IT WORKS
I used it without soft resetting the device and it worked
I tryed soft resetting the device and it worked
But the biggest surprise of all is that after using the new cable, also the old one started working ..
i guess there must have been a software bug that has gone (hope forever) away.
For those interested, the new cable is a double one: one side is usb, other two sides are charge connector and hotsync connector.
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here I am again.
finally I got the new cable and... surprise... IT WORKS
I used it without soft resetting the device and it worked
I tryed soft resetting the device and it worked
But the biggest surprise of all is that after using the new cable, also the old one started working ..
i guess there must have been a software bug that has gone (hope forever) away.
For those interested, the new cable is a double one: one side is usb, other two sides are charge connector and hotsync connector.
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have you got a web link for this one you now have?
friend of mine has apparently got a tytn, I'll pick up a 1.2A USB / Car adapter this weekend and see what happens, hopefully the extra .2A should enable the tytn / exec to charge normally in a car.
Having had an exec for a while I will agree that most 12v/USB adapters struggle with the exec, but hopefully this will make the difference, if it works I will post the details of the company selling them (they are listed for the PSP)
I haven't had this trouble. Just got my new MDA Vario II and I've used it with my old MDA compact mains charger and the car USB charger and it works with no problems.
Tried it with the Vario II on and off and have a charging light on both.
dear all, i bought a car to usb adapter recently, hoping to use it to charge my atom exec when driving. but sad to say, it doesnt charge my atom exec at all. but it works with my ipod n other usb devices.
does anyone hv any idea why car to usb adapter cant charge my atom exec?
thks alot in advance!!!
cheers
Hi,
I find that by turning the phone on and then connecting the usb, it works ok. the led should turn red (atom exec) if it is working. If I just plug the phone into the usb car charger it does not work.
cheers, Richard
(i think this thread is in the wrong forum, should be accessories)
I had the same problem with my Atom. I think you need the car charger to output 1A as I have tried a couple with 500ma and it would not charge.
by default, all other USB charger could not charge the O2 because they are NOT designed to charge a WINCE. Have you ecer notice that even you plug in your WINCE devices to a USB cable connected to your PC without installing a correct driver, it won't charge your WINCE?
thks all for e replies...
i had discovered the reason behind why the usb charger is not working for pda phones. its bcos the voltage is too low to charge the pda phones.
now i had bought another usb charger with a higher voltage n it works!!! so for those who want to charge their pda phones using usb charger when driving, pls rem to get RAPID usb charger. only these RAPID usb charger works with pda phones.
enjoy!!!
cheers
Hello,
I have a couple of questions regarding the compatibility of the TyTN with the following things (didn't find anything relevant with the search option):
1. Can it charge using an iPod charger (the white box in which you put a USB cable)?
2. Can it charge using the car charger that comes supplied with a Holux GPSlim 236?
Thanks!
Jörg
I am able to charge mine with the car charger that came with Holux GPS Slim240.
I've charged mine with anything that has a mini usb port ... charger(s) for my Motorola headphone, cameras, etc ... with no problems.
For top-up charging, pretty much any car charger with a USB port will work. Note however that if your battery is seriously low, some car chargers may not be able to provide enough current to do the job -- the charger should be able to supply at least 1 amp to properly charge a low battery.
Thanks guys!
Jörg
Hi guys,
Well i have a TyTN for a year by now and when i have purchased my phone, on very first day i`ve lost my charger
So here is my question, i`ve tried 2 different charges, one belongs to motorola phones with mini usb port, and other one is gigabyte g-smart charger (the one i bought before TyTN and not working now). Motorola charger can not charge my TyTN, but G-Smart charger can do it. But when the battery is fully discharged, G-Smart charger also can not start charging my device, only way i can start charging is to connect my tytn to my computer..
I want to ask you guys the output voltage and ampere value of the OEM TyTN charger, which is the most important thing about the chargers. For example Motorola charger gives out 4.8 Volts with 350 mAmpers (0.35 A) and i guess this is not enough to charge my tytn becaouse it is not working on my tytn. Can anybody tell me the values of the oem charger?
Output: 5V @ 1A LPS
I'm pretty sure that answers your question, I don't know much about this.
5V 1A
wow pretty much for a cell phone...
have you felt how much the hermes feels like a 3 bar fire when it's charging p
(if you're buying from ebay, buy the 2AMP versions so you know you have a little bit spare... just my opinion but cheap import charger's probably don't provide quite what they say they do... Also if you run a charger at 100% it's output 100% of the time i would think it's less likley to last as long as one runnign at only 50%)
(don't forget you also need to do the charging pin cable hack if you get a cig lighter to USB adapter or you'll end up with the one charge per reset bug...)
I've charged my Herm200 with various chargers, mains and car-based from 500mA to 1.5A with no difficulties. It seems to be a fairly resilient charging circuit. The lower current chargers don't charge the device very fast (or at all, in some cases) with TomTom running though.
thanx guys you have been very helpful, but i have an gigabyte g-smart i128 and it has a USB chager too. which is 5V 700mAh. And when i plug it into my hermes, a yellow led flashes for few times then nothing... It does not charge it. This i found strange. Well it charges my gigabyte pda well. But i dont think there is something wrong with my hermes too because usb sync cable charges well.