Hi guys,
Well i have a TyTN for a year by now and when i have purchased my phone, on very first day i`ve lost my charger
So here is my question, i`ve tried 2 different charges, one belongs to motorola phones with mini usb port, and other one is gigabyte g-smart charger (the one i bought before TyTN and not working now). Motorola charger can not charge my TyTN, but G-Smart charger can do it. But when the battery is fully discharged, G-Smart charger also can not start charging my device, only way i can start charging is to connect my tytn to my computer..
I want to ask you guys the output voltage and ampere value of the OEM TyTN charger, which is the most important thing about the chargers. For example Motorola charger gives out 4.8 Volts with 350 mAmpers (0.35 A) and i guess this is not enough to charge my tytn becaouse it is not working on my tytn. Can anybody tell me the values of the oem charger?
Output: 5V @ 1A LPS
I'm pretty sure that answers your question, I don't know much about this.
5V 1A
wow pretty much for a cell phone...
have you felt how much the hermes feels like a 3 bar fire when it's charging p
(if you're buying from ebay, buy the 2AMP versions so you know you have a little bit spare... just my opinion but cheap import charger's probably don't provide quite what they say they do... Also if you run a charger at 100% it's output 100% of the time i would think it's less likley to last as long as one runnign at only 50%)
(don't forget you also need to do the charging pin cable hack if you get a cig lighter to USB adapter or you'll end up with the one charge per reset bug...)
I've charged my Herm200 with various chargers, mains and car-based from 500mA to 1.5A with no difficulties. It seems to be a fairly resilient charging circuit. The lower current chargers don't charge the device very fast (or at all, in some cases) with TomTom running though.
thanx guys you have been very helpful, but i have an gigabyte g-smart i128 and it has a USB chager too. which is 5V 700mAh. And when i plug it into my hermes, a yellow led flashes for few times then nothing... It does not charge it. This i found strange. Well it charges my gigabyte pda well. But i dont think there is something wrong with my hermes too because usb sync cable charges well.
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I bought a cigarette car adapter 12v with MiniUSb plug at the end (says for Motorola V3), but thought I could use it on my Hermes. It seems to charge (maybe a little slower charging that the one I had been using, which got destroyed), and is of good quality compared to my cheap ebay one that I had. It has smart charge protection in it. Someone had told me that any cigarette car charger meant for blackberrys, Motorolas etc that had a MiniUSb plug at the end could be used for the Hermes. Are they wrong?, Should I be worried about it hurting my device? The one I bought is through Cellgear.com,,sorry, the specs on the charger don't appear on the site.
If it is charging a little more slowly, then you are probably ok. Really, if we were all going by the book, we would check the charge rates and voltage outputs against the specs laid out by HTC.
One problem you may face is the the refusing to charge unless the device is switched off syndrome. This can happen with chargers not designed for the Hermes due to differences (it is thought) in the earthing connections. So although it may deliver a charge on the appropriate pins it can sometimes not allow the charging circuit to kick in due to the earth connection difference.
Just something to be aware of if it happens.
Mike
v3 usb charger
sure it will charge your phone, in fact I've found any mini usb will do the job, HOW-EVER if the phone is soft reset then the charger is pluged in it will charge ok, BUT once you "use" the phone it tends to stop charging..thats cause the real chargers are wired a little different.
my other half has a V3, my BT gps uses mini usb as does my BT headset, so I just use whatever is around and put up with the problem.
hope this helps
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I've been using the following devices to charge my 8525.
My HTC supplied 8525 Charger.
My Motorola V3 Razr Charger
My Motorola V3 Razr Car Charger
My Nextel Blackberry Charger
My Nextel Blackberry Car Charger
Mini USB to PC (linux, win2k, winxp, vista, etc..)
Mini USB to laptop
Mini USB to CABLE BOX (DVR and Non-DVR)
Mini USB to Nintendo Wii
Mini USB to Playstation 2
Mini USB to Playstation 3
Mini USB to HP C6100 Series printer
All of them charge the phone with no issues.
I've found that Blackberry chargers work a bit better than Motorola chargers. I think the Moto chargers provide less amperage than the Blackberry ones. This means it may charge, but more slowly. If your battery is completely dead, the Moto charger may not be able to allow you to boot the Hermes. I think the Blackberry charger will.
The other thing is that cheap chargers, especially car chargers are pretty...cheap. I finally bought a name-brand charger and it's a lot more stable and better built that the generics. If you're gentle with your stuff it may not be a problem, but things sometime get thrown around in my car.
Just picked up an unlocked Cingular/ATT 8525, but it only came with the USB synch cord. I know I can charge it with that, but I also have a wall charger and a car charger from my Razor V3 that seems to fit the factory specs in V&A. Would it be safe to use these with the Hermes or should I bite the bullet and get new chargers?
Any USB Charger should do it. All will be 5v at 500mA+.
As the above poster says other chargers at 500mA will work. BUT if you do some searches you will realise that the Hermes charger is 1000mAand in a few circumstances this is a better rating. So if you get the chance to pick up an official one then I suggest you do. There have been problems reported with using under powered non official chargers. For toppping up now and then it's not a problem though.
Mike
They'll work fine. Even if it's 500mA, it will just charge a little slower than the 1000mA OEM charger.
had an imate jam fried by a motorola charger... haven't been game enough to put my jasjam on again... cheers....
i would be very hesitant in using non genuine chargers. there are problems with them in regards to properly charging the unit. do a search and see for yourself on the forum
I used to use a Moto Razr charger with my wiza and my hermes. The only downfall is that if your battery completely dies it cant jump start it to begin the charge.
Is it fine to use a htc touch charger for my jasjam? So any genuine HTC charger that has a mini-USB connection should be fine?
ziadd said:
Is it fine to use a htc touch charger for my jasjam? So any genuine HTC charger that has a mini-USB connection should be fine?
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Yes, I use my friends HTC S710 (Vox) charger all the time and it's fine both for my phone and Moto S9's headphones.
Wam7 said:
Yes, I use my friends HTC S710 (Vox) charger all the time and it's fine both for my phone and Moto S9's headphones.
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Ok thanks for that.
Would this USB charger be fine? http://www.zazz.com.au/ (there's 1.5 hours left on it) The DC output specs for the ac adapter are 400mA. Would this have a negative effect on the JasJam?
USB Adaptor Bundle
Back by popular demand
USB home and car adaptors Plus Bonus USB cable!
USB AC Adaptor:
* Powers most USB devices
* Powers Through any Australian Power Outlet
* INPUT: 100-250V.AC 60/50Hz,
* DC 400mA
* OUTPUT: 5V
* Can Be Used Overseas with Appropriate Country Adapter
* Dimensions: 60x40x30mm
Provided:
* USB to DC converter (2-pin Aussie Insulated standard)
* USB to Cigarette Lighter converter (y'know, for the car)
* MaxiUSB to MiniUSB cable
Warranty: 12 Months from Zazz on all
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Original keeps you spending more for what you have already paid alot
CRCinAU said:
Any USB Charger should do it. All will be 5v at 500mA+.
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How sensitive is the phone to voltage fluctuations? Just noticed that my old 8125 charger is 5.5V and I also have a Motorola portable charger rated at 5 +/- 0.25V
I got a generic little car charger that works fine... It was "Lazer" brand from china...
Maybe, if you're in Australia you might be able to find it.
Cheers....
yeah, i'm using "Capdase" miniUSB charger [5V 1A]. it charges my hermes [from 10%] to full for ~2h30m
i have been using a motorola a1200 since i picked up this device used and it didnt come with anything
it just takes longer for the device to recognize its charging and it takes longer to fill up the battery
Hey guys,
I was wondering if these USB car chargers are compatible for the TP2?
http://cgi.ebay.com/Dual-2-Ports-US...Accessories?hash=item518f99b7a9#ht_3242wt_958
and
http://cgi.ebay.com/DC-Car-Cigarett...wItemQQptZPDA_Accessories?hash=item3a567814a2
and
http://cgi.ebay.com/Silver-Mini-Uni...Accessories?hash=item414bbc871c#ht_2000wt_958
I'm asking because I remember in the past I used a HTC charger to charge the O2 XDA Flame and it charged. However, the phone started acting VERY weird and freeze a lot. I ended up having to hard reset it
Thanks!
I think any USB charger for electronic gaget that has a output of 5.0 v should work. It does not matter if it is an AC charger or and car lighter charger. I got one of these AC and another car lighter charger. There are all 5.0 v output. I use them to charge Ipod and phones.
chompx2 said:
I think any USB charger for electronic gaget that has a output of 5.0 v should work. It does not matter if it is an AC charger or and car lighter charger. I got one of these AC and another car lighter charger. There are all 5.0 v output. I use them to charge Ipod and phones.
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Thank you
It's best to choose one that can supply enough current (I think the wall charger supplies 2A, but 1A should be ok). Some devices will still trickle charge with a lower current, but others just won't trigger the charging circuits at all.
I had a cheap car charger that seemed to work ok most of the time, but it got worryingly hot after a while.
My TP2 came with an official HTC charger, so I use that now and it's great.
I have noticed that if the phone is OFF then 1A is not enough and usually stops charging but if the phone is ON it completes the charge..but takes for ever.
Has anyone experienced the charging overheat situation where the led flashes orange and green? I dont know if that is the situation but it only happens when I am charging in the car and the unit gets hot.
My old "OEM HTC" charger I got on ebay (the one with the blue HTC light) just stopped charging my phone after about 10-15 uses.
It lights on (charger), but my phone doesn't catch any charge lol
I got a 1A one, and unfortunately it cannot produce enough juice when running the GPS (copilot), after a while the phone shows a message telling the charge current is not enough.
The wall charger that came with the original box is 1A too, thus the problem might be with the cheap car charger.
Brando sells a 2A car adapter that should do the trick. They're out of stock right now, but it may be worth a look.
Hey!
Mine is a cheapo but does the trick. Charges the phone with satnav running, today went from 23% to full in less than 3 hours. Plus it's really tiny so I can keep my ashtray closed all the time. Using it with mini retractable cable, it all fits in the ashtray and it's handy to use.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Micro-Nano-Ti...daptors_SM?hash=item5638c26773#ht_1747wt_1165
3waygeek said:
Brando sells a 2A car adapter that should do the trick. They're out of stock right now, but it may be worth a look.
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The manual states that the output of the AC charger is 5.0 volts and 1 amp. That means the output of the DC/car charger should be the same. Using a 2 amp current might be charging the device faster but it would probably generate more heat and might shorten the battery life.
one tip, regardless of which charger you end up with, is to not leave the phone plugged in while starting the car. my understanding is that there can be be large voltage surges or fluctuations during the startup. depending on the design on the voltage converter inside the charger, some of that may be making it through to the phone.
i once had a AA NiCd battery smart charger that went wonky after using it in the car a lot, but that was with a straight-through 12V car to charger connector.
I made my own charger for using as a GPS on my motorcycles.
There is a charge select line in the plug. If the phone detects that it is connected to a USB port, the phone will not 'pull' more the 500ma. If that line is set to indicate a non USB port, then the phone will pull 1 amp. MAX (I never saw more then 900ma myself).
If you have the wrong charge plug, it may only charge at 500ma. If you have the correct plug and the charger can manage 5 amps, the phone will still only take 1 amp max.
For a while I used the phone in a waterproof box called an Aquabox. It would overheat during charging. I now only charge the phone when it is not in an enclosed hot space.
I'm still using the off-brand 'for Blackberry' car charger I got back when I had my Kaiser. Seems to be working just fine with this phone as well.
Hey y'all,
I was in the AT&T store the other day getting a replacement for my wall charger (it died and they replaced it under the warranty, nice guys) and they told me not to use any other USB cable with my phone because the Motorola one is special.
They say it charges faster and maybe does other things better too, although they didn't really say what else. Is there any truth to this, or were they just trying to sell more cables?
they are trying to sell more cables...
I got a cable from ebay for my car with a 90 degree tip so i can charge the phone while using it as a navigation device. it surely wasn't a Motorola cable but works great. I have also used other peoples chargers and cables, I think I had an issue only once where I borrowed the cable from a friend and the cable didn't want to charge, don't know what that was about, didn't play with it enough to figure it out, may have been a defective cable. but basically it comes down to, the charger is putting out 5 volts, if the cable carries all 5 volts to the device and doesn't loose any, it will work fine. Also there are only 2 pins in the cable that are used for charging, one for (-) and one for (+). those pins are all the same for every usb charger or a computer. also phones with that type connector are wired to receive the charge only through those 2 pins. Thus, all of them are made the same. The only thing that manufacturers will do is change the gauge of the wire being used in the cable, but with a 3 foot long cable, and only 1amp of power maximum traveling through it, it just doesn't matter
hope I was some kind of help to you...
Hey! I was also thinking that in my mind but couldn't express. I thought everyone will think I'm getting crazy! Buy my atrix full charges in just 1.5/1.45 hours with the Motorola's Official Wall Charger & USB Cable. I haven't seen any phone that charges that fast! The battery backup of this phone is awesome! 2days with moderate use & 4.5 days with normal use. Aweomeeeeeee!
I use the Factory cable at home, and an old Blackberry cable at work. No difference in the USB cables performance.
Hi,
Yes, nothing magic...
The Motorola wall plug is 850mA output, a PC USB port is UP TO 500mA and for example the IPhone one (square one) is 1000mA.
So the charging time will be shorter with the IPhone one, then the Motorola and finally the USB port.
As I have already say in another thread, I have connect the +5V of my power supply directly on the USB port, so now, no problem !
Now you know !
Hi all,
When I use the charger that came with the HTC One my phone charges great, rapid.
But when I use any other charger that I have in my home/office it charges very slow. Even with a 2.1 amp charger!
The charger that comes with the phone has an output of 1 amp.
I've tried multiple other chargers (1 amp and 2.1 amp) and they all trickle charge.
Anyone else noticing this?
Thanks
Joe
I'm using old charges at home and in the office and it did seems slow but had not heard of rapid charge. Will the phone indicate this rapid charge mode? If not, is it real?
I'm getting slow charging even on the stock HTC charger. Not sure how I can enable this rapid charge cause 4+ hours from 0-1% to full is a bit ridiculous.
use orginal charger is best , maybe it has some relationship with your battery life
If anyone is coming from phones with smaller batteries, remember the larger the capacity the long it takes to charge.
I use the cable and charger from my Nexus 7 and it charges fast. Off my USB it is slow.
Real AC chargers have two pins shorted. You can hack a USB to micro USB cable and short the same two pins to enable AC charging with any adapter, wall, USB, or car. Should be pins 3+4, but don't hold me to that.
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flooty333 said:
Hi all,
When I use the charger that came with the HTC One my phone charges great, rapid.
But when I use any other charger that I have in my home/office it charges very slow. Even with a 2.1 amp charger!
The charger that comes with the phone has an output of 1 amp.
I've tried multiple other chargers (1 amp and 2.1 amp) and they all trickle charge.
Anyone else noticing this?
Thanks
Joe
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Try to change your phone
c5satellite2 said:
Real AC chargers have two pins shorted. You can hack a USB to micro USB cable and short the same two pins to enable AC charging with any adapter, wall, USB, or car. Should be pins 3+4, but don't hold me to that.
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i've done exactly this, and damned if the One still refuses to draw more than ~500 ma off of anything but the 2.1 A wallwart it came with (i don't have any others to try with). i'm about to dig out an old inverter to see if that will actually work. wish i'd paid more attention to my EE dad when i lived at home; i've gotten a serious crash course in this stuff while trying to get my One to charge in my car, when it's on.
edit: so i got my old inverter out, and spent about 15 minutes testing. i used the 2.0A adapter that came with my Nexus 7 to test, as well as the 3.1A Mediabridge adapter i got here. my phone was at about 45% when i started testing. unplugged, Battery Monitor Widget reported a drain of anywhere between 500ma and 650ma (running Ingress, wifi on). plugged in to the Mediabridge adapter showed, at best, a drain of 50ma. the Nexus adapter plugged in to my inverter charged at a fairly consistent ~120ma. i didn't touch my phone the entire time.
i left my Nexus 7 at work so i can't use it to repeat the test, but i will do so tomorrow. the cable i'm using is this one. i'm not crazy about having a ridiculous DC-AC inverter in my car for my phone, but if that's what i have to do so it can be used and not drain, then so be it. admittedly, i don't really understand these things enough to explain these variations, but i plan on learning ASAP. perhaps somebody else can shed some light on why the device charges different, and how it identifies an AC-USB adapter vs a DC-USB adapter.
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If anyone is coming from phones with smaller batteries, remember the larger the capacity the long it takes to charge.
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Math doesn't support what is happening though. Phone has a 2300mAh battery. The OEM charger outputs 1A (1000mAh)
At most, it should be around 3 hours for full charge, when in fact it is closer to 4-4.5 hours. It's the last 10% that is the issue, it will trickle charge to 100% rather than rapid charge.
nest75068 said:
Math doesn't support what is happening though. Phone has a 2300mAh battery. The OEM charger outputs 1A (1000mAh)
At most, it should be around 3 hours for full charge, when in fact it is closer to 4-4.5 hours. It's the last 10% that is the issue, it will trickle charge to 100% rather than rapid charge.
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Yes, I think that's exactly what the HTC does... I read a pretty good article recently about Li-Ion batteries that talks about how trickle charging is the best for battery life, and it wouldn't surprise me if HTC got a little aggressive the way the this phone charges since we can't swap the battery ourselves.
I'm trying one last car charger, which matches the wattage of my Nexus 7's 5Vdc/2A AC adapter (which I've had the best luck with, when charging the phone while in use): http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009TBF7IG/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
If that doesn't work, I'm going to put a 300W inverter in my car with the AC adapters themselves and stop buying stinking DC adapters. This phone clearly pays very close attention to the wattage available from whatever it's plugged in to.
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I use the cable and charger from my Nexus 7 and it charges fast. Off my USB it is slow.
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Same here, 2a Nexus 7 brick with a long Logitech USB cable, much faster than stock (and longer)
Harbinger1080 said:
Yes, I think that's exactly what the HTC does... I read a pretty good article recently about Li-Ion batteries that talks about how trickle charging is the best for battery life, and it wouldn't surprise me if HTC got a little aggressive the way the this phone charges since we can't swap the battery ourselves.
I'm trying one last car charger, which matches the wattage of my Nexus 7's 5Vdc/2A AC adapter (which I've had the best luck with, when charging the phone while in use): http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009TBF7IG/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
If that doesn't work, I'm going to put a 300W inverter in my car with the AC adapters themselves and stop buying stinking DC adapters. This phone clearly pays very close attention to the wattage available from whatever it's plugged in to.
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I'm fortunate my car has a built in inverter that I use for charging my phone.
nest75068 said:
I'm fortunate my car has a built in inverter that I use for charging my phone.
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My next car will too, because I can only imagine that power requirements for these devices is going to increase.
That said, I think I have a winner, and instead of retyping my posts, I'll just link to that thread instead: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=41797839&postcount=6
Since the snap Dragon 600 has fast charging capabilities, why didn't HTC Include it in the kernel??? I've noticed my 2500 mAh note battery charges faster than my 2300 MAH HTC one
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