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Hi ALL
I been reading through all the post for the past week or so.. and contemplating upgrading to WM 2003 ROM 4.00.05 ENG on my 02 XDA .
I check out ROMkitchen and created my ROM but I deselected all additional software I Just wanted the bare bone WM 2003 ROM 4.00.05 ENG. I have not installed it yet. (BIG THANKS TO XDA-developers )
some users posted that they had good and bad experience with WM 2003 ROM 4.00.05 . The reason why i created this topic is to collate disadvantage and advantage using WM 2003 ROM 4.00.05 ENG (due to not final version if I'm correct).
I check here and the Enhancements are damn good which should of been support by PPC 2002 Phone Edition .
a) Can user posted disadvantage and advantage using WM 2003 ROM 4.00.05 ENG i.e. annoying bugs http://xda-developers.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1945
b) What's your personnel percentage based on WM 2003 ROM 4.00.05 ENG? i.e. User ability
c) Will you port back to PPC 2002 ? i.e. WM 2003 ROM 4.00.05 Stability dose not meet my needs
Share your thoughts and experience please if possible
Well to be honest with you so far the device and the WM2003 are very stable together.
I am using QTEK 32MB with ROM 4.00.05 and i can assure you that the speed is even better and the performance is great.
Now that doesnt mean its bug free there are still some small problems here and there as any normal ROM.
My advice upgrade it... and then you will see that you will like it allot you wont downgrade.
By the way "Test Not for Sale" screen when reseting the device is great lol 8)
Frankly, my experience with my 02 hasn't been all that stellar. i do get some slowdowns, but i don't think i can go back to SER1.2's smsing... smsing in the new os is spectacular, well worth the other drawbacks.
my 2 cents
I've got 4.00.05 installed. After a soft reset, a white square box with a grey rectangle over it comes up on the screen- looks like some sort of dialog is trying to come up but isn't all there. There's also a (x) in the top corner. Clicking that brings back the today screen.
Has anyone else noticed this? It happened also when I was using the 4.00.01 ROM.
GregP74 said:
I've got 4.00.05 installed. After a soft reset, a white square box with a grey rectangle over it comes up on the screen- looks like some sort of dialog is trying to come up but isn't all there. There's also a (x) in the top corner. Clicking that brings back the today screen.
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This is the SIM Toolkit. If you can still boot, simply remove the stk.lnk file from \Windows\Startup. Otherwise create a new ROM in the kitchen: I added the option to not include that link earlier today.
Sweet. Just took out the stk link.
So far this ROM seems pretty stable. I'm still having some issues with the SD card though.
It seems if I remove the card and add files with my card reader, then put it back in the phone, it's not seeing the changes.
4.00.05 vs 4.00.01
I have a fairly vanilla ROMKitchen 4.00.05.
The SIM toolkit is annoying (empty dialog) that pops up after a soft reset.
4.00.01 was very stable for me. If anything 4.00.05 appears a little less stable on GRPS. It keeps/makes the connection OK, but the network (TCP/IP side) seems to get confused until I power off the radio or reset sometimes.
I'm not going to bother going back to .01, but I won't bother updating any more devices to .05 if they already have .01.
..lance
Re: 4.00.05 vs 4.00.01
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4.00.01 was very stable for me. If anything 4.00.05 appears a little less stable on GRPS. It keeps/makes the connection OK, but the network (TCP/IP side) seems to get confused until I power off the radio or reset sometimes.
..lance
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Are you on T-mobile ? The whole GPRS network seems very unreliable since Saturday afternoon - I had problems in CO, then CA on Tuesday (though late morning was fine) and again today in CO. My machine ROM is unchanged in the last 10 days.
Hi All :lol:
First of all thanks to the XDA-developers for the ROMkitchen it is a very nice tool, Job well done!! , and also to Jeff for keep updating the site for the ROMkitchen, I Upgraded my XDA from the Jeff's ROMkitchen from XDA-developer ser 1.2 to 4.00.05 En, but i have some problem when trying to answer a call, my answer button is not working, sometimes it work sometimes not, and also i can not find from the previous menu, phone->tools->option->more, which enables the answer after 3 calls and lock all button except the power key. and also when I try to run the Easy Tweaks it hang my XDA, need to soft reset the unit, have you guys have the same problem...Please help me on this problem
And also can Jeff include the Software MyInfo and MyCalendar from JGUI to make the WM2003 looks good... thanks in advance. here is the site
www.jgui.net
My Unit Now is
4.00.05 EN
4.21 Radio stack
32S54
MorePower to XDA-Developers :!: :!: :!:
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But i have some problem when trying to answer a call, my answer button is not working, sometimes it work sometimes not
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Confirmed: we see that too. Annoying. But fortunately the 'Answer' on the screen always works, otherwise 4.00.05 would be unusable.
when I try to run the Easy Tweaks it hang my XDA, need to soft reset the unit, have you guys have the same problem...Please help me on this problem
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EasyTweak does all sorts of PPC2002-related registry tweaks. You can't really expect it to be very useful on new OS versions. I've set it to 'PPC2002 only' in the kitchen.
Hi,
I tried the 4.00.01 and got many bugs ... (bad reception ...)
Yesterday I put the 4.00.05 and all seems going well. Good GSM reception and for the moment no problem.
Thx to Jeff and his kitchen
As a regular contributor to various motor car forums I am always amazed at how idiots destroy perfectly serviceable cars in an attempt to 'improve' them. Anyway - today, I am one of those idiots.
I recently purchased a QTEK 2020 which I got a bit cheap on account of it not having 'iMate' written on it. Before I get really into it and put software and stuff on it, I'd like to upgrade my ROM from 1.66 to 1.72, which I have found on this site. Do I have to go through all of the xda2nbftool stuff (which I more or less understand)? Presumably yes, to change the Operator (only?). I'm quite happy for the machine to think that it is an iMate, but presumably this does not work!
I am happy with my machine. It hasn't crashed yet. But it annoys me that it might not be quite as good as yours...
(I so feel like one of those people who wants to remove his cylinder head and replace it with pineapple's to make the engine run sweeter)
i dont really understand what you are asking
are you asking
1 about changing operator and so sim locking ?
2 are you asking if you need the pretty manual xda2nbftool way to upgrade xda2's ?
3 are you asking if it will work upgrading to 1.72 ?
1 you can sim unlock your device without changing rom
a rom never require you to use a special operator but the preset settings will be the operators who put out the rom
2 yes currently it's the only way with time people are likely to make it a bit more gui like the xdatools for xda1
3 it should work but some people are reporting issues with it or maybe that was the beta of 1.72
read about the exp of others in the posts about 1.72
Sorry - it's a simple question.
If I had an iMate I could just use the RUXXX upgrade without any fuss to upgrade to 1.72
However, I have a QTEK 2020. I guess therefore I have to use xda2nbftool to modify the operator name to QTEK - otherwise it will not work (despite the 2 devices being identical). I do not want to unlock a SIM or anything else (it is unlocked by default).
Just looking for confirmation of the above paragraph!
I read about the experience of others using the 'official' 1.72 and it seems okay (better battery life etc.)
Cheers
there are 2 errors i think which stop people from just flashing their xda2 flavor with any rom update in the form of an exe file
1 is country code error if the rom is released in one country it often have a block which will stop people from upgrading their another country xda2 with it, not sure why they do that
2 maybe a form of device block so you dont upgrade your qtek with the imate
i'm sure if you had an imate and the country code dident differ you would be able to upgrade without using xda2nbftool
with time a GUI tool like xdatools for xda1 will come and you'll be able to get around all these blocks without having to type
and such
If you want to upgrade your Qtek to Imate's 1.72 ROM, yes, you need to do all that stuff.
It's actually quite simple, the description on http://wiki.xda-developers.com/wiki/HimalayaRomFlashing is full, accurate, and is actually suited to Qtek owners without changing a single instruction.
I flashed my device (though on the first go it ended up in a dead-ish screen and I had to re-flash) and it works swimmingly.
However, you might get somewhat nervous encountering such dead-ish screens; and for good reason, flashing is dangerous after all.
Perhaps it's best to wait for a Qtek upgrade, they seem to be holding back a bit, so perhaps they're waiting to integrate WM2003 Second Edition, which should be a much larger upgrade. Also, you'll still be covered by warrantee.
If you're having specific problems with your 1.6x ROM, it could conceivably be a good idea to upgrade to the iMate ROM (using the instructions on the wiki), but if you're not having any problems, or problems that also occur in 1.72, or which are a result of 3rd party software you're using; don't bother.
You are right that QTEK seem to be a little slow in releasing anything. In fact I can't find any detailed 'official' support on QTEK outside the pages of this forum. Their website appears to be in swedish and is of very little use!
The QTEKCorporation website doesn't even list the 2020! Strange, as I understand that HTC own QTEK.
Most vendors (Expansys for example) list the 2020 as 'discontinued' (which is how I managed to negotiate a big discount!)
I tried to gatecrash club-iMate but they didn't like my IMEI number, and when I asked why not they said that they don't support my device.
I don't really care (assuming that my machine never has a problem...) and is it seems to do everything I want it to, I'll wait before updating the ROM. Maybe something will come from QTEK eventually - although I am not sure from where!!
Cheers
well qtek were the first ones out with 1.66 it came on my device before most people had gotten 1.60
beljames said:
As a regular contributor to various motor car forums I am always amazed at how idiots destroy perfectly serviceable cars in an attempt to 'improve' them. Anyway - today, I am one of those idiots.
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Who am I to contradict you? ;-)
Seriously: don't do the upgrade yet. Why?
- 1.72 has well-known problems. First, ClearType has become much worse - text just doesn't look as good as with older versions. Second, quite a few people report hangs that needed a hard reset (and cause a loss of all data). See, for example, the pages 45 - 50 of the PocketZenPhone thread in this forum. With my ROM version (1.60) I never had to hard-reset a single time. And I tried quite a few programs, some less buggy, some more buggy.
- also, although there are detailed instructions, things can always go wrong. And if that happens, you may need a bit of experience to sort them out. So wait a few more week, enjoy your device, read forums, and gain experience.
Cheers
Daniel
I have 1.72 for some time now and:
- it *never* crashed (I have to do soft reset from time to time like in any other release though, but no hang or anything)
- clear type is fixed. There's a post about a .cab to install which fixes the problem. ClearType is now great on 1.72
- my battery life improved over previous versions and I have a unit that can stand up to three days connected to my BT headset (a bluetrek G2) with me talking 2 to 3 hours a day and doing PDA stuff
so I would recommend you move on
Hi beljames, really I can understand you! I've almost destroyed a lot of good working car engines trying to "improve" them... :lol:
So: if you want to do this with your brand new QTEK 2020 go there
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=9060
and read carefully.
All worked fine for me. I upgraded from 1.66 ITA to 1.70 EN and my QTEK works perfectly!
About the cleartype problem you can find a fix in this forum: it works too.
I've also added a N2Ox system and a small turbocharger... it's a little bit heavier, yes, but it runs like a rocket! :lol: :lol: :lol:
Good balanced opinions!!
I think I'll wait a while to see if it annoys me. One single hang and I'll upgrade. Screw it up in Ghana and you don't get a lot of 1 to 1 technical support!!
By the way - I find it far easier to read the screen with Cleartype switched off (and mine is 1.66). Cleartype makes me squint!
An Loxodont - assuming that you are Italian, you will be amused to hear that the one car I used to lunch very frequently was an Alfa 33. Used to blow the inlet manifold clean off almost weekly.
- 1.72 has well-known problems. First, ClearType has become much worse - text just doesn't look as good as with older versions. Second, quite a few people report hangs that needed a hard reset (and cause a loss of all data).
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in defence of 1.72 then i have had both these issues with 1.66
Go for it....
Hi all,
just to let you know I also upgraded my Qtek 2020 from 1.66 to i-mate 1.72 following the "manual steps" to overryde the country code error and it works fine. The steps are simplier than it seems and i did it in 5 minutes. The upgrade itself is quite boring....it took almost one hour to complete the upgrade on all stacks.
One thing i can tell you: after the upgrade the device gets faster and it seems it has a "new" battery.
The cleartype prob is solved and forgotten with the right patch.
The only problem i still get is the stupid i-mate logo at startup and i can't seem to get rid of it. I want my old qtek logo back....
If i can give advise on this: Just go for it.....
Portuguese do it better....and we will win Euro2004 !
The only problem i still get is the stupid i-mate logo at startup and i can't seem to get rid of it. I want my old qtek logo back....
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maybe this guide can help you get your old pic or a new and more fancy one as bootImage
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=3759
Help, i want to upgrade my UK (English) XDA IIto WM2003SE, having had a quick look at the posts on here ive seen a Dutch version and an Australian version.
I dont want make my XDA into a doorstop so does anyone from UK who have upgraded to WM2003SE have a link to a ROM they have used successfully.
Ta
Not a problem at all
Hi,
I've just put on WM2003SE a few days ago. Few quirks but I can live With them. Mines the Irish model but the Irish and UK upgrades have always been the same so I don't see this being a problem for you.
ftp://xda:[email protected]/HimalayaSE206/windowsmobile2003se.exe
You also might want to upgrade to ActiveSync 2.8 as well. Not sure if you have to, though.
I just ran the setup and it worked. To be safe, don't use your somputer while the upgrade is being done and make sure that your XDAII is fully charged.
Problem
Hello, I have the English XDA II, and when I tryied to install this rom it answered me back with a message: error 120, country code error.
does anyone have any Idea of what to do?
Hi,
That brand it has its pda?
Re: Not a problem at all
ranger said:
Hi,
I've just put on WM2003SE a few days ago. Few quirks but I can live With them. Mines the Irish model but the Irish and UK upgrades have always been the same so I don't see this being a problem for you.
ftp://xda:[email protected]/HimalayaSE206/windowsmobile2003se.exe
You also might want to upgrade to ActiveSync 2.8 as well. Not sure if you have to, though.
I just ran the setup and it worked. To be safe, don't use your somputer while the upgrade is being done and make sure that your XDAII is fully charged.
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hey folks, I just did the same as ranger did and now have a nice new wm2003se on my Irish xda ii as of 5 mins ago. looks pretty cool. cheers for that ranger. btw ranger, have you put all your O2 specific stuff back on? I see the text messages and all are working grand but what about gprs & O2 active etc? cheers m8
I don't use GPRS. Any internet related stuff I do while I'm docked in work. Got a nice fat 1MB line each way.
O2 Active Sync. I'm glad I got rid of it. It was awful. It was the one Internet 'App' that I could not get working over docked internet. It insisted on a GPRS connection to give O2 more money.
I suppose I should have recorded my GPRS settings before I flashed, but not to worry.
Thanks for that ranger, when u install it does it wipe out all your existing installed programs and data?
It wipes everything.
OS ROM, Extended ROM and updates the Radio stack.
There will be nothing left of the original software if you do the normal install. Then again, if you obtain certain tools from this website you may just be able to flash the OS ROM only.
I didn't bother as I didn't really care either way.
upgrade way back?
If after using your WM2003SE ROM I still wish to return to a regular O2 ROM:
Do you advise me to make an O2 ROM backup (something I should first learn), or can I re-install the regular O2 ROM (WM2003) from the o2source site without hickups?
I'm not sure
That I'm not sure about. There maybe topics somewhere here on the forum that might say if it's possible or not.
I haven't tried it myself but I may do in the future. There are some things I'm not happy about in WM2003SE but the pros far outway the cons.
My device can be very un-responsive at times
There are only 3 alarms rather than the 4 with the O2 source.
It probably wouldn't so any harm to back up your ROM beforehand, though.
WM2003SE Diamond 1.2 Succesfully installed
I tried this http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=104422#104422
Very complete and it seems to have good support and outlook for next versions
XDA II O2 UK
PH10A Himalaya
ROM 2.06.00WWE 06/14/04
Radio 1.18.00
Protocol 1337.38
ExtROM Diamond 1.2se
Serial v0.26b
I really need someone to help to lead me how to upgrade my XDAII WM2003 to WM2003SE. Please show me where and how to do this. appreciated to show detail step by step set up.
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there is so many forum that would help you to upgrade from wm2003 to wm2003se. anyway, i will try to help. i'm a newbie my self. i use XdA2JoJo.v3.2zS. it pretty much have everything on it. and it's stable. you have to download XdA2JoJo.v3.2zS from ftp://xda:[email protected]/GlobeSmartSun/XdA2JoJo.v3.2zS.exe
and then.. put your xda on the bootloader mode by press and hold power button + navigational pad + softreset switch. a number like 1.03 or whatever will come up and put it on the cradle. and then run the XdA2JoJo.v3.2zS.exe. after that you just wait till it finish and when it shows you finish then reset the xda and that's pretty much it. if you have a question feel free to ask. hope that helps
How stable are the wm2003se versions that are available?
I use the xdaII everyday as a business tool, I would really like to have 2003 se (mainly for the improoved bluetooth) but I wouldn't want it to crash when I need it!
How stable are the wm2003se versions that are available?
I use the xdaII everyday as a business tool, I would really like to have 2003 se (mainly for the improoved bluetooth) but I wouldn't want it to crash when I need it!
i use the XdA2JoJo.v3.2zS version and it's very stable. the bluetooth have two stack. use the one that's the most compatible. don't run them both because sometimes it crashes specially with tomtom 5. i use the microsoft bluetooth stack.
Why do you want to upgrade to WM2003SE if you can upgrade to WM2005?
xdaII upgrade to WM2003SE
I'm a first time user to the site and just followed the link from MDAIII and have now upgraded my machine. All seems to be working fine. So far I am impressed. Thanks I've been waiting a while to get this sorted.
I upgraded XDAII from wm2003 to wm2005 and in my opinion its not perfect yet. There is still some memory issues to be ironed out... I ''ll say gave it month or two.
I have now downgraded to 2003se and iam very impressed with it.
its very stable than my previous orange build (wm2003). I could serously see myself sticking with 2003se for some time to come.
I have also just bought an sd-wifi card from ebuyer for £19.00
so no upgrade of the unit till the 3G pocket-pc is released later this year or next.
never upgrade for the sake of upgrading.
thanks to xda2jojo and others :roll: .
So which version of wm2003se are you using?
am using XdA2JoJo.v3.2zS combined zt on extended rom
seems stable to me. I got my wireless sd card today and that works perfectly too.
these are some of apps installed on my pocketpc
tomtom 5
mapopolis
worldmate
omega battary pro
agile messanger
mortplayer
betaplayer
adobe reader
mobipocket reader 5 beta
I'm a newbie here and considering the purchase of a used x7500 with WM6.0. The current owner has a problem with the bluetooth not functioning. I'm wondering if this might be a common problem with 6.0 and if the new cooked 6.1 (4 – if that’s the latest rom version) might solve such an issue? Also, would you mind directing me to the page that has the most popular /cleanest 6.1 rom? I’m tearing my hair out trying to figure out which is the safest one to use.
Kind regards,
Peter (Bamse1)
no need for 2 threads mate
Okay, but I didn't intend this as the same thread as the other one (see "Cleanest/Most Popular 6.1 rom as of 2DEC08??"). I just carelessly pasted some of the same intro text, but there is a difference. My focus on this thread concerns the BT issue. I will take the liberty to paste a private message reply quote from Brau0303 which helps answer the original question:
... As for the BT issue this could be a junk rom, a bad radio version (software & fixable) a hardware failure or something the current owner simply screwed up because they did not follow instructions and may or may not be fixable.
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Bottom-line: Apparently no clear connection between faulty BT and a bad ROM. In the meantime, the HTC service vendor Anovo Nordic AB in Sweden has agreed to fix it free of charge as long as there is not visible damage (there is not) and it is under the 2-year HTC warranty (which it is). It is not clear what their views are on cooked ROMs, but probably not favorable. Fortunately it has not been flashed and has the stock HTC WM 6.0 - which is good news in this case.
Let me add a reply by Lakeman too:
I personally have never had a bluetooth problem and it is not a common problem... I would hope flashing another rom would fix your bluetooth problem, but some of these phones are getting old (18 mths) so there is the possibility of a hardware issue sometimes it would pay to reflash the radio as they can get corrupted as well just make sure you kmow which spl you have and flash the right one
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I had a lot of bluetooth problems with the stock WM 6 rom. Most of these problems are gone with Michy v5 rom. But my brand new S740 is better still.
Thanks ralf_pp, but this thread is under the Athena X7500 advantage not the Rose S740, unless you're suggesting that Michy v5 also works with the X7500?? Do you mind clarifying?
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Thanks ralf_pp, but this thread is under the Athena X7500 advantage not the Rose S740, unless you're suggesting that Michy v5 also works with the X7500?? Do you mind clarifying?
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I think he was talking about Michy's 5.0 or 5.1 ROM, which are two ROMs for Athena. And then he was probably bragging that his Rose has better bluetooth quality than Athena.
not sure what is on 7500 or 6.0 rom
but on factory original 7510 with 6.1 bluetooth works perfectl for stereo music and phone calls automatically.
it auto plays back, and cuts off as necessary to handle both.
remote control keys (AD2P) works perfectly.
voice dialing command key
phone feature key (press hold to dial last number)
press to mute, etc, etc....