hello, anyone else have issues with alarms not sounding when setup through spb time ?
the alarm is actually triggered, appears on screen - just no sound !
this has happened several days in a row with diff alarm sounds.
last night i set a normal windows mobile alarm and setup a spb time alarm for 1/2 hour later. They both fired but still no sound from the spb time alarm.
If you know the way around this, can you please post the answer.
(T-MOB005 on Tmobile Ameo UK)
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shockboy2000 said:
hello, anyone else have issues with alarms not sounding when setup through spb time ?
the alarm is actually triggered, appears on screen - just no sound !
this has happened several days in a row with diff alarm sounds.
last night i set a normal windows mobile alarm and setup a spb time alarm for 1/2 hour later. They both fired but still no sound from the spb time alarm.
If you know the way around this, can you please post the answer.
(T-MOB005 on Tmobile Ameo UK)
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SBP Time is not compatible with WM6. They do not list it as being compatible (as they do with some of their products) - see SPB Time Product Page. I have had this issue in the past on WM6 on the Uni and now steer clear of SPB Time except on WM5.
Same here, no sound
ah ok, thanks for pointing out the wm6 compatability issue.
thought it was just me the first couple of days..somehow sleeping through the alarm. when u press the dismis button it does play the sound for a second or two though..crazy.
anyway, at least spb_time displays the time ok as its name suggests it should
shockboy2000 said:
ah ok, thanks for pointing out the wm6 compatability issue.
thought it was just me the first couple of days..somehow sleeping through the alarm. when u press the dismis button it does play the sound for a second or two though..crazy.
anyway, at least spb_time displays the time ok as its name suggests it should
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Actually, you may find it doesn't display the correct time. I found it is sometime a minute or so behind (as sometimes is the clock on the taskbar in WM6)!!!
Anyone have a suggestion for an alarm clock program with will work??
the standard wm6 alarms work fine, whilst u can use spb to display time on the today plugins
Have you tried the "Wakeup Tweak" (on the options page)?
Works fine for me here.
(Ameo - Black Touch 2 - SPB Time 2.1.1 Build 937 Trial)
mojo2000 said:
Have you tried the "Wakeup Tweak" (on the options page)?
Works fine for me here.
(Ameo - Black Touch 2 - SPB Time 2.1.1 Build 937 Trial)
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Interesting. I had the same problem with or without the tweak. I'm currently trying out Chronos by ActiveSync which is working well, but they don't have the nice Today plug-in like SPB time...
works fine here, no probs, wakeup tweak enabled
have never missed any alarm.
indeed, time lags a few seconds
wonderboygr said:
works fine here, no probs, wakeup tweak enabled
have never missed any alarm.
indeed, time lags a few seconds
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I had a weird thought... I know I enabled wakeup tweak but it still didn't work. Now I'm thinking probably should have done a reset in between, otherwise did the tweak really install... Will try again and report back.
How is that possible. Mine also has no sound, whether the wake up tweak is enabled or disabled. Do you use wm06?
Applied tweak, reset, still no sounds.
hope the following will help. this is what i have done in my htc x7500
1. in spb time options, wake up tweak enabled.
2. spb time screensaver disabled
3. wm6 settings, sounds and notifications, check events (warnings, system events), programs notifications (alarms, reminders)
4. wm6 alarms all three disabled.
5. in wm6 power options, uncheck power off device if not used for xxx minutes, for both battery and ac power
6. in wm6 backlight options, do what you like.
then soft reset ( i do it after i make any changes)
hope it works now for you
however
i will make a video to show you it works and upload it to youtube, will be tonight though, still at work
i fact will make a video with all the settings i use. the latest version of spbtime worked
from day 1 i installed it with the dopod wm6 rom.
now i use pk2, which is based on the same rom
just give me some time, will be around midnight, local time, athens , greece
please give me feedback if with the above settings, the spb alarm workrd
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hope the following will help. this is what i have done in my htc x7500
1. in spb time options, wake up tweak enabled.
2. spb time screensaver disabled
3. wm6 settings, sounds and notifications, check events (warnings, system events), programs notifications (alarms, reminders)
4. wm6 alarms all three disabled.
>>>5. in wm6 power options, uncheck power off device if not used for xxx minutes, for both battery and ac power
6. in wm6 backlight options, do what you like.
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With regards to step 5, won't this have a negative impact on battery life???
wgary said:
With regards to step 5, won't this have a negative impact on battery life???
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so far, battery lasts 3 days this way. you are certainly right that with the power off checked the battery life will increase dramatically, but for the sake of the spb alarm, this is how it works for my x7500.
have the settings i use in my x7500 solved the spb alarm problem?
wonderboygr said:
so far, battery lasts 3 days this way. you are certainly right that with the power off checked the battery life will increase dramatically, but for the sake of the spb alarm, this is how it works for my x7500.
have the settings i use in my x7500 solved the spb alarm problem?
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I already have battery issues. I tried everything but step 5, with no success. Apparently that is the key. I have gone back to Chronos, which isn't quite as nice but at least it works without a battery drain...
wgary, just to let you know that with the official htc rom wm6 (europe) and without any tweaks (apart from the spb tweak in its options), spb functions normally.
could it be an issue of dopod rom? do not know...
or maybe the use of other programs may interact with spb time?
just a thought... have you tried the wm6 fix sound? just in case? ( look for it in pk 2 thread)
this is really weird stuff man...
wonderboygr said:
hope the following will help. this is what i have done in my htc x7500
1. in spb time options, wake up tweak enabled.
2. spb time screensaver disabled
3. wm6 settings, sounds and notifications, check events (warnings, system events), programs notifications (alarms, reminders)
4. wm6 alarms all three disabled.
5. in wm6 power options, uncheck power off device if not used for xxx minutes, for both battery and ac power
6. in wm6 backlight options, do what you like.
then soft reset ( i do it after i make any changes)
hope it works now for you
however
i will make a video to show you it works and upload it to youtube, will be tonight though, still at work
i fact will make a video with all the settings i use. the latest version of spbtime worked
from day 1 i installed it with the dopod wm6 rom.
now i use pk2, which is based on the same rom
just give me some time, will be around midnight, local time, athens , greece
please give me feedback if with the above settings, the spb alarm workrd
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sorry for not uploading the video on time, had little time and probs with pc
will do so as soon as possible
Please try updating your version of SPB Time to the latest version. I did some forum spelunking and found that they had a new version that fixed this problem. My friend and I just tried it on our Tytns and it worked for both of us... even with the phone in standby!
Good luck.
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Could anybody give me some advice on how to get it to work??
I have installed SPB Time v2.2.2. My S2U2 is set to turn on as soon as screen goes blank.
I have noticed that S2U2 will cause my alarm with SPB Time not to activate in the morning. When I finally do touch screen to check time, then my alarm goes off like I woke it up from S2U2 screensaver.
Any recommendation or workarounds??
Just dont go to sleep. Keep your eyes open and wait to see the alarm popup. That always work.
ive never had a problem with S2U2 and SPB time,
however i had a problem with SPB Time not bring the phone out of sleep mode
the thing i noticed is that when i bring the phone out of sleep the time is usually 20-30 minutes behind, and it jumps up to the current time, i figure maybe the phone just doesnt keep real time in sleep mode, so that causes it to miss the alarms
for the alarm clock, i just keep it from going to sleep mode when on external power, and keep i plugged in overnight
zachahuy said:
Just dont go to sleep. Keep your eyes open and wait to see the alarm popup. That always work.
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ive never had a problem with S2U2 and SPB time,
however i had a problem with SPB Time not bring the phone out of sleep mode
the thing i noticed is that when i bring the phone out of sleep the time is usually 20-30 minutes behind, and it jumps up to the current time, i figure maybe the phone just doesnt keep real time in sleep mode, so that causes it to miss the alarms
for the alarm clock, i just keep it from going to sleep mode when on external power, and keep i plugged in overnight
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Yes I've noticed that too about the real time. I guess thats an option...keep it plugged in and make sure option of sleep mode is disabled.
Are you using at least the 2.17 ROM? Not waking up for alarms was one of the fixes in that version.
I also have this problem with the leaked ROMs. I am also using SPB Time I just went back to my regular alarm clock on the night stand till a fix comes out. Only thing is this beta ROM was compiled before the fixes into the the roms were made that fixed the alarm problems. So the alarm problem still exists in this version. Just a guess but I hope the official release fixes the alarm wake up problem.
2.17 was out quite a while before 3.16. The wake up issue was fixed in 2.17 and remains fixed in 3.16.
JimSmith94 said:
Are you using at least the 2.17 ROM? Not waking up for alarms was one of the fixes in that version.
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I have dcd's titan rom 2.2.3
I found the following problem with most cooked ROMs (also including the last official one from HTC) /I tried that on fresh installations in every case/
I like AutoLock feature. So I made a small .reg file to modify one small entry in registry.
The moment this feature is on - if the device becomes locked, the screen goes dim. Problem is - it stays dimmed forever. I tried thousand different solutions - many combinations of registry values, power options, etc. nothing helps. If I lock the device manually - no problem. only with autolock. Anybody knows how to make it work?
Regards,
Vojtek
Maybe you should post your script, so that someone can have a look. Did this work on some previous ROM? Or has it been an ongoing problem?
Try using SmartLock, found on this site.
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Maybe you should post your script, so that someone can have a look. Did this work on some previous ROM? Or has it been an ongoing problem?
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The official HTC ROM that I used to have before recent official update from HTC - worked very fine with this little registry mod.
The modification is as follows:
HKCU->ControlPanel->Backlight->AutoDeviceLockEnable
default value = 0
I change it to 1. This is all I do after totally fresh ROM update. that causes the dim to go permanently on from the next lock (doesn't matter if it was caused by auto or manual). even If I get back with the value to 0 in registry - problem stays. soft reset (and value set to 0) eliminate the problem.
one more thing - I never use auto-light sensor. My backlight level is always set to 2. with auto-light sensor - autolock works OK. however I loose a lot of battery life since auto-light sensor never allows backlight levels lower than 4.
Regards,
Vojtek
check out Lumos, it'll let you backlight go as low as you set it to
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=450318
GldRush98 said:
check out Lumos, it'll let you backlight go as low as you set it to
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=450318
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Thank You for the tip. The tool itself is great. However it is affected same way by the autolock. Autolock causes device to stay dimmed permanently - even with Lumos running.
Regards,
Vojtek
First off... I'm new around here & still a little flabbergasted by everything WinMo, but this site has already helped me tremendously.
Secondly, I can confirm the AutoLock bug. I updated my Touch Pro to the latest official rom last night. While running through AdvancedConfig (i think...) I noticed the AutoLock option & enabled it. 10 minutes later I was freaking out that I had stuffed up my expensive new toy...
Disabled, rebooted & all is OK again.
First of all - Advanced Config has nothing to do with it (to defend the author).
Second - thank You for support. I could not find a solution for this problem anywhere and I spent hours googling. For the moment I thought that my TP is failed. Seems that nobody uses AutoLock these days. I don't know how everybody's doing it, but without locking, my TP calls to different people (especially from Favourites tab) from time to time...
Vojtek
vojtek11 said:
I don't know how everybody's doing it, but without locking, my TP calls to different people (especially from Favourites tab) from time to time.
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I require a password/passcode level of security on my device - which the Lock/Unlock feature doesn't provide. Unfortunately, the current security implementation in WinMO 6.x doesn't allow the Today screen to be seen like the Lock/Unlock feature.
As a result of these shortcomings, most folks tend to use a 3rd Party lock application such as: S2U2, mLock, etc. as they provide the desired flexibility.
HTH,
very familiar with this issue. I'm working on it too. It affects the WM6.5 lockscreen for sure and I thought it was a problem with only that. Bugger that it affects official ROMs as well. Good info though, I can stop concentrating on the lockscreen and start looking at power mgmt.
mindfrost82 said:
Try using SmartLock, found on this site.
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SmartLock all the Way!!
First of all, thank you for your interest and feedback! Mostly due to your request I want to present you a new version.
Version 1.25 changelog:
1. Added Connections on/off
2. Added alarm - poor one
Version 1.20 changelog:
1. Added new profiles: WiFi on/off, Bluetooth (BT) on/off, Phone on/off. Added also Soft Reset.
2. Some minor changes.
Version 1.10 changelog:
1. Added half-hours (I think quarters are too much).
2. Hour format (24 or 12) is automatically changed depending on your regional settings.
3. I don't have VGA device, but I think now the screen is squeezed a bit so it can fit to VGA square screen. Please, try and tell me what happens.
4. Added sound profiles - low, medium, high and very high.
5. Number of settings increased from 4 to 15.
Please, download TProfiler120.CAB for latest version.
Automatically switches device sound mode(available profiles - sounds on, sounds off, vibrate, volume low, medium, high, too high), turns on/off wifi, bluetooth, phone mode and soft resets at selected hour and weekday and thus saves your battery power. Simple application, doesn't occupy memory. Tested only on HTC HD2 but should work on other devices too (TP2, Touch HD/Blackstone - tested thanks to replies to this thread).
It works fine on TP2
Great application.
It would be great if it had also a 24-hour mode .
It would also be great if we could set the device to change to a certain volume on the Ring and System. I like to turn my phone down to 2 notches on both of those and crank it back after 5pm.
digiblur said:
It would also be great if we could set the device to change to a certain volume on the Ring and System. I like to turn my phone down to 2 notches on both of those and crank it back after 5pm.
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+1 on this request.
Would be also great if one could change profile on headset plug-in/plug-out.
When I softreset the phone it gives me a non signed error.
VGA please
scabbard1 said:
VGA please
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+1
looks very promising as of this is really important to have because i tend to forget to switch my phone to silent when im at school
ill be watching this thread
Great application !
Feature request: time in quarter/half hours too.
You might want to add some additional 'rules'. If you have a different time schedule for every day in the week, 4 just aren't enough...
Awesome
Been waiting for a free app like this. The Connective Tools one is nice, but I love the continuing user driven development of XDA. The suggestions on here are great and I echo the setting the volume to a custom level and the quarter/half hours things.
zharptitza said:
Been waiting for a free app like this. The Connective Tools one is nice, but I love the continuing user driven development of XDA. The suggestions on here are great and I echo the setting the volume to a custom level and the quarter/half hours things.
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+1 though 5 min time slots would be better. Are going to try and integrate the App so it will switch on calendar appointments?
just installed 1.10 on my HD, but when I start the app it alerts "Doesn't exist", and after tapping 'ok' the app doesn't respond anymore, actually the complete screen doesn't respond. Using the hardwarebuttons I can go back to my homescreen and then using the system taskmanager I can shut the app down after that everythings fine..
anybody got an idea? because it looks like a useful app to me
Dear Xsite3,
I think you had to wait for a while - when started first time the application takes more time (1-2 minutes).
Just installed v1.1 on my HD2 and i get the message attached. Any ideas?
When I try to start up TProfiler I get a message box that simply says "Doesn't Exist". After that I can click on the TProfiler icon all day long but nothing happens. Wonder what doesn't exist?
V 1.10 crashes for me
I was using version 1.00 with no problems on my HTC Fuze running WM 6.5. But version 1.10 crashes on startup with this error:
TProfiler.exe
InvalidCastException
at
Microsoft.VisualBasic.CompilerServices.Conversions.ToInteger()
at
DeviceApplication1.Form1.Form1_Load()
at
System.Windows.Forms.Form.OnLoad()
at
System.Windows.Forms.Form._SetVisibleNotify()
at
System.Windows.Forms.Control.set_Visible()
at
System.Windows.Forms.Application.Run()
at DeviceApplication1.Module1.Main()
The app appears to draw at least a portion of it's window, and then crashes, though it goes by too quickly to see just how much of it is drawn
I really like the app. I especially like the addition of half hours in this version, if I can get it to work.
Hypermommy said:
When I try to start up TProfiler I get a message box that simply says "Doesn't Exist". After that I can click on the TProfiler icon all day long but nothing happens. Wonder what doesn't exist?
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Hmm same here
Phone: TOuch HD
Rom: Xannytech 1.9B (+maxManila)
Cheers
Problems
Fellows, sorry for keeping you waiting - Please, try now - it should work.
Searching through the Internet for the possible solution regarding "Wake Up from Standby" problem i came across this Article.
The suggested solution for users facing this problem was to deselect the "Auto Adjust Backlight" option from the Power settings menu.
The suggested solution for Kitchen Chefs was to use another Power Application in their Kitchen.
I think that this could be useful for all of us.
for the wake issue, try this it should work :
1) take the flesh.bin, the ACER_EUU and the extrom.bin, from arto's rom,
2) then take the original acer 3.003c and extract the .exe file in a folder with winrar or sevenzip
3) dump the .amf file from it with the toolbyamper
4) now delete from the original acer rom those files: flesh.bin, extrom.bin, ACER_EUU, toolbyamper and the .amf file
5) put the flesh.bin, extrom and ACER_EUU that you take from arto's rom and put it in the acer v3 folder...
here you go !
jeje too complicated this last solution...
i tried solution mentioned by brianmaster and it works...
regrats
How to make what the device with SRS WOW HD 1.5.1.0 woke up?
How it has made Arto in the rom?
I wish to instal RU rom, but srs hd wow only on Arto rom works without a dream!
Sorry my bad English
You must uninstall SRS WOW HD 1.5.1.0, this driver is only for HTC
So on Arto rom works srs wow hd! Also does not sleep!
I even took srs wow hd from Arto rom, all the same on others rom does not work!
SRS WOW HD works only on Sense ROMs like Arto's.
right now use Arto rom, but it would be desirable to put RU rom and to fasten srs wow hd, but ways I so understand was not present (
Wake up solution?
brainmaster said:
Searching through the Internet for the possible solution regarding "Wake Up from Standby" problem i came across this Article.
The suggested solution for users facing this problem was to deselect the "Auto Adjust Backlight" option from the Power settings menu.
The suggested solution for Kitchen Chefs was to use another Power Application in their Kitchen.
I think that this could be useful for all of us.
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I think that the wake up issue is caused by a conflict between windows and acer relating to the < End Key > fuction.
I've tried this for a day and it works for me:
Of corse uncheck < Auto adjust backlight by battery level>!
preferences-phone-check wake up from sleep
preferences-End Key-choose lock and suspend( hold to suspend)
Settings-System-backlight-battery tab-check both boxes
Settings-System-backlight-external power tab-check both boxes
Settings-personal-buttons-button 2 choose <Today >from menu on the bootom
TO WAKE UP PHONE: PRESS ( < ) button at bottom of device.
This W\Official acer ROM( don't know about settings in cooked ROM)
Also:< SRS-WOW HD> works beatifully on stock Rom
1.Installed SDK certs., .net config.3.5 Then:
2.Install SRS-WOW HD to device ( afer installation finishes *SOFT RESET*)
3.after reset go to settings-Sys-srs wow icon open and make personal adjustments.
Hoping this works for all!
arghh !! I'm still having wake up issue either I'm using v3 flashing tools...damm !!! I have this !
I've went back to Arto's ROM wich hasn't got the wake up issue. But when i used active sync it did again. I disabeld the active sync and then I was perfect again.
So maybe active sync has something to do with it to?
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I've went back to Arto's ROM wich hasn't got the wake up issue. But when i used active sync it did again. I disabeld the active sync and then I was perfect again.
So maybe active sync has something to do with it to?
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Did you had some issues with my Modular ROM? If you share it with me, maybe i can make improvements.
Yes, I've treid your modules Rom and really loved it. Unfortunatly I had the wake up issue (i reported it in your tread and you also fixed me a cab for dutch language realley fast
In arto's ROM I don't have the problem unless active sync is on push (or other polling, haven 't tried) no mather wat setting I use for backlight or wake up when a hardkey is pressed.
I think you have to contact Arto because he problely has the solution (since his Roms don't have it......
****inglogins said:
Yes, I've treid your modules Rom and really loved it. Unfortunatly I had the wake up issue (i reported it in your tread and you also fixed me a cab for dutch language realley fast
In arto's ROM I don't have the problem unless active sync is on push (or other polling, haven 't tried) no mather wat setting I use for backlight or wake up when a hardkey is pressed.
I think you have to contact Arto because he problely has the solution (since his Roms don't have it......
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Well, i am using the Geek Rom since i cooked it, and don´t have any wake up issues.
That is strange then...... Maybe I'll flash your rom again sometime but i'm pretty satisfied with arto's rom so far.
I'll let you know by time
****inglogins said:
That is strange then...... Maybe I'll flash your rom again sometime but i'm pretty satisfied with arto's rom so far.
I'll let you know by time
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No problem. Arto also makes very good ROMs.
3.003 drivers were supposed to fix the wakeup problem, but it seems there are certain options/customizations that still can create the wakeup problem.
For example, I have had wake up issues on all the ROMs I've tried (Rafyvitto's, Arto's and UFE's).
I have disabled backlight based on light levels and the problem occurs much less often. Currently trying the extended version posted a little earlier (using Acer Preferences, so any key can wakeup from standby, etc.)
I do use activesync to sync with my computer; I do download push mail (from gmail); I do use swype; I automatically download weather info - on any ROM I use... so it is possible that either of these is the culprit...
/Sifaan
In two weeks i didn't have one wake up issue with my ROM.
Autobacklight is on, i don't use the end call button for sleep mode. I just press the power button and S2U2 locks the device.
And i deativated the option to turn the backlight of if the device is not used for 30 seconds.
Possible reason for wake up problem
I am nearly sure that wake up issue occurs when i change something in windows folder. Especially when i change lockscreen, use some programs related to device lock and change start menu icons etc., wake up problem occurs every time regardless of rom (i have used nearly all custom roms)
Hello,
the last 2 times that i had this wakeup issue, the story was the following:
-i received a text
-i went in my incoming box and looked for the message
- next i closed the incoming box by pressing the end key
- screen turned off 1 minute later
and so no way to wakeup my phone !!
Hope it could help, bye.
Update on 24.12.10 - My phone hasn't frozen or switched off on it's own since I made these changes! The battery life constantly stays real good. I have only charged my battery up to 100% TWICE in 4 days!! I think this trick works! I will really appreciate if more testers come forward and help us test this
What will this mean?
This will mean that we can make TG01 battery stay minimum of 24 hours and maximum upto 38-40 hours with good amount of browsing, calls, texts, games, ALSO keep exchange sync on forever!!
In total before my battery completely died, I was able to do the following:
2357 minutes of stand-by (includes the activities as well)
137 minutes of browsing
3 Downloads (total less than 10MB)
180 minutes of calls
36 text messages
21 email downloads using Exchange sync - that was ON all the time
60 minutes of gaming
18 pictures taken using camera
12 minute video recorded using camera
1 round of back up and virus scan
This is what I've done:
Installed SPB Shell here
Removed Taskbar (was a cab file in miROM4 that I am using)
Removed Start Menu (I have attached cab that I used to remove start menu)
Before you remove start menu or taskbar - PLEASE make sure you have full functioning SPB Shell installed. You will loose WinMo start menu and notifications (see attached pic) so you will rely solely on SPB Shell ONLY
On miROM4 by removing start menu and taskbar the original free RAM (96MB) increases upto 105+MB - I don't know how, I don't know why. This is my observation and testing!When you install SPB Shell, you will notice the RAM going down to 78-80MB on boot. - I don't think it's bad either.
Now you might wonder what's so different.
Someone did an experiment showing that by running apps the battery drain was 20% compared to stock ROM
Another experiment also led to show that battery drain mostly is not a ROM issue
I am no tech, I am no expert. This is my pure observation and my experimentation with TG01. I know the links I've quoted are for HTC mainly, but I suppose theory still stays. If any one is willing to replicate those experiments on their TG01 please feel free to collaborate with me.
I have updated all my uses on TG01 between 100% battery and 0% battery.
After 100% charging the battery,
Just to re-fresh what I have done with it apart from leaving it on 'stand-by'
I am running SPB Shell with it.
Using Opera 10 browser for facebook, bing, google (approx browsing 97 minutes till now)
I have read news on Evening standard and BBC (approx time 35 minutes till now)
I have downloaded recipe for 2 cocktails
I have made 6 (appox. 147 minutes in total) phone calls
I have sent 31 text messages
My active sync is on since 10pm as I have set my exchange email retrieval 'as item arrives' - so it has downloaded 14 email items at different times. Experiments have shown that results are quite bad when it comes to using Exchange Active Sync schedule 'as item arrives'
I have played Sudoku (about an hour)
I have left my backlight at 70% (on SPB you have an option)
My battery life after 18 hours 30 minutes is 80% with free ram of 78-80% without any processes running i.e. on stand-by!!
1 call (33 minutes long)
5 text messages
2 games (56 minutes total) of puzzle
Facebook using Opera 10 (updated status, replied few messages, browsed mainly)
Downloaded tube map from a website using Opera 10
Took about 18 pictures using TG01
Cleaned RAM, Virus scanned and did an online back up.
After 27 hours 22 minutes - my battery life remaining is 50%
Made 0 phone calls, 0 texts
My active sync downloaded 7 emails
I checked XDA website for about 20 odd minutes using Opera 10
I used facebook for 10 minutes using Opera 10
I recorded a video of length 12 minutes
All this time my wifi and data connections were switched 'ON'
39 hours 17 minutes - my battery is 0% and my TG01 switched off!!
Putting all these links together, I think if ROMs don't affect the battery drain, but by removing these two elements if my phone survives in adverse conditions i.e. exchange email (shown above link) and running apps/games (shown above link) - then it had to be either of these two elements or settings behind them that drain our TG01's battery!
EDIT: Yes, Oly after removing taskbar, when we press on 'Start button' it freezes the mobile. We don't need to remove battery to get rid of the freeze. Just few seconds and it comes back to normal. But to avoid that occuring, I used the attached cab. That cab removes start menu from the face of my WinMo. PS: This cab is NOT my creation. I have found it on XDA. ALL the credit for this cab goes to NRGZ28 - this cab will prevent making RegEdits
THUMBNAILS' LEGENDS:
1) How the 'Today' screen looks without taskbar and Start Menu Icon
2) How the SPB Menu replaces my WinMo start menu
3) How the SPB Menu replaces my WinMo start menu
4) How the SPB Menu replaces my WinMo start menu
5) How the SPB Menu replaces my WinMo start menu
6) How the SPB home screen looks without taskbar
drupad2drupad said:
OK GUYS .....
Removed start menu
Removed taskbar.
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Sounds exciting! How did you remove start menu and task bar?
Pere said:
Sounds exciting! How did you remove start menu and task bar?
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I had DarkNinja task bar pre installed as cab from miROM4 - I removed it. It sort of 'disables' the start menu, but after that I removed start menu using one of the 'remove start menu keep x button' cabs and then eventually even removed 'x' button most programs respond to <- key at bottom.
I could attach cabs if you want but basically removing taskbar will remove all your icons on top and just leave the clock - it makes SPB Shell look nicer as well!
It been 27 hours and 21 minutes as I type and my phone's battery is 50%. I am going to edit the amount of tasks I have done in these 27 hours.
Hey drupa2drupad! Nice thread! I'm using similiar methods to you, but my battery is still awful! what battery are you on? Im on the stock toshiba one... i have spb shell running, opera 9.7 for abt 10-15 minutes, and the battery is 90% and opera 9.7 is meant to be more friendly for the battery,,, i have also diasabled the start emnu... i have had this layout for many months now and cannot reach battery levels as good as yours!
olyloh6696 said:
Hey drupa2drupad! Nice thread! I'm using similiar methods to you, but my battery is still awful! what battery are you on? Im on the stock toshiba one... i have spb shell running, opera 9.7 for abt 10-15 minutes, and the battery is 90% and opera 9.7 is meant to be more friendly for the battery,,, i have also diasabled the start emnu... i have had this layout for many months now and cannot reach battery levels as good as yours!
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Hi Oly,
I am using stock toshiba as well - the one that came with my phone.
Did you remove the taskbar too? I am meaning to upload a screenshot of how my phone looks without taskbar. I am inclined to believe it's got something to do with removal of taskbar more than removing start menu. I have tried removing start menu on it's on and I had same result - Opera 10, draining 10% every 20 to 30 minutes of browsing.
I had desire taskbar installed as cab, I removed it! I am going to get some screen shots in first post
Hi Drupad,
Nice thread!! One thing I noticed was that disabling the start menu also gives 15-20mb free ram and it significantly improves battery life, disabling the sleep mode led and turning on wifi when not needed also helps!
P.S: After disabling windows start menu, I overided it with SPB Menu which is now my default Start Menu!
drupad2drupad said:
Hi Oly,
I am using stock toshiba as well - the one that came with my phone.
Did you remove the taskbar too? I am meaning to upload a screenshot of how my phone looks without taskbar. I am inclined to believe it's got something to do with removal of taskbar more than removing start menu. I have tried removing start menu on it's on and I had same result - Opera 10, draining 10% every 20 to 30 minutes of browsing.
I had desire taskbar installed as cab, I removed it! I am going to get some screen shots in first post
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Hmmmm... I wonder how the taskbar removal makes a big impact on the battery life! I can understand the start menu, basically all your icons in the start menu are cached into the ram, so removing it will consume less resources , more battery life etc etc. But how doesit work with the taskbar? Im using the stck taskbar on Mangosora's 6.5.3 build with spb shell + mobilesense.
Nice thread
gizmogeeker said:
Hi Drupad,
Nice thread!! One thing I noticed was that disabling the start menu also gives 15-20mb free ram and it significantly improves battery life, disabling the sleep mode led and turning on wifi when not needed also helps!
P.S: After disabling windows start menu, I overided it with SPB Menu which is now my default Start Menu!
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Yes i did that too on ffboys 6.5 rom(spb menu for startmenu) unfortunately it does not work for 6.5.3
Drupad, im guessing when u use the phone now, pressing the start softkey freezez your device?
Use the reg tweak to make the start button disappear (like the HD Mini)
You can find it by searching on the forum,
'HD Mini Start Key disabler' (something like that)
olyloh6696 said:
Hmmmm... I wonder how the taskbar removal makes a big impact on the battery life! I can understand the start menu, basically all your icons in the start menu are cached into the ram, so removing it will consume less resources , more battery life etc etc. But how doesit work with the taskbar? Im using the stck taskbar on Mangosora's 6.5.3 build with spb shell + mobilesense.
Nice thread
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Probably, the battery difference is due to the start menu alone and not the taskbar because he removed both.
olyloh6696 said:
Yes i did that too on ffboys 6.5 rom(spb menu for startmenu) unfortunately it does not work for 6.5.3
Drupad, im guessing when u use the phone now, pressing the start softkey freezez your device?
Use the reg tweak to make the start button disappear (like the HD Mini)
You can find it by searching on the forum,
'HD Mini Start Key disabler' (something like that)
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That's weird, I've got winmo 6.5.5 and the start menu disable works for me...
gizmogeeker said:
Hi Drupad,
Nice thread!! One thing I noticed was that disabling the start menu also gives 15-20mb free ram and it significantly improves battery life, disabling the sleep mode led and turning on wifi when not needed also helps!
P.S: After disabling windows start menu, I overided it with SPB Menu which is now my default Start Menu!
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Thanks!! I liked what I was experimenting and I thought more than 1 person analyzing what all these means, obviously made more sense
Yeah even Oly suggested he had free RAM (15MB) on disabling start menu so am sure about RAM now. I did use Wifi most of the time as well as data connection when I used Opera 10 for browsing. Did not disconnect data connection because it reconnected immediately - reason being my exchange sync set to 'retrieve as item arrives'
My start menu is SPB Menu as well Looks cooler, non-WinMo sort as well
olyloh6696 said:
Hmmmm... I wonder how the taskbar removal makes a big impact on the battery life! I can understand the start menu, basically all your icons in the start menu are cached into the ram, so removing it will consume less resources , more battery life etc etc. But how doesit work with the taskbar? Im using the stck taskbar on Mangosora's 6.5.3 build with spb shell + mobilesense.
Nice thread
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Thanks Oly!
I don't know if taskbar has got much to do with battery, but I did see quite a few reg-entries i.e. magnification etc - do they relate to taskbar? By removing taskbar, do I essentially switch these flickers off? Do you think anything i.e. notifications etc are being cached in ram as well? (non-educated guess!)
olyloh6696 said:
Yes i did that too on ffboys 6.5 rom(spb menu for startmenu) unfortunately it does not work for 6.5.3
Drupad, im guessing when u use the phone now, pressing the start softkey freezez your device?
Use the reg tweak to make the start button disappear (like the HD Mini)
You can find it by searching on the forum,
'HD Mini Start Key disabler' (something like that)
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I have attached the cab in first post - this is the one I used to get rid of 'start' button completely. Yes my phone did freeze for few seconds to upto a minute, but came back to normal as soon as my screen locked! But after this cab, no problem at all! I think you can definitely have SPB menu as start menu - as it has got everything you need! I have 6.5.3 miROM4 as well and I was able to do it and use it flawlessly. I will try to put some more screenshots
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That's weird, I've got winmo 6.5.5 and the start menu disable works for me...
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+1
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Probably, the battery difference is due to the start menu alone and not the taskbar because he removed both.
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+1 and then -1
I agree it has to be start menu but don't know if it's alone because Oly has disabled start menu for quite a few months now and he din't seem to notice this drastic change :s
If you guys see any changes by removing taskbar (if you are going to ) then please post back, may be we could be improving our battery lives
drupad2drupad said:
Thanks!! I liked what I was experimenting and I thought more than 1 person analyzing what all these means, obviously made more sense
Yeah even Oly suggested he had free RAM (15MB) on disabling start menu so am sure about RAM now. I did use Wifi most of the time as well as data connection when I used Opera 10 for browsing. Did not disconnect data connection because it reconnected immediately - reason being my exchange sync set to 'retrieve as item arrives'
My start menu is SPB Menu as well Looks cooler, non-WinMo sort as well
Thanks Oly!
I don't know if taskbar has got much to do with battery, but I did see quite a few reg-entries i.e. magnification etc - do they relate to taskbar? By removing taskbar, do I essentially switch these flickers off? Do you think anything i.e. notifications etc are being cached in ram as well? (non-educated guess!)
I have attached the cab in first post - this is the one I used to get rid of 'start' button completely. Yes my phone did freeze for few seconds to upto a minute, but came back to normal as soon as my screen locked! But after this cab, no problem at all! I think you can definitely have SPB menu as start menu - as it has got everything you need! I have 6.5.3 miROM4 as well and I was able to do it and use it flawlessly. I will try to put some more screenshots
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I agree it has to be start menu but don't know if it's alone because Oly has disabled start menu for quite a few months now and he din't seem to notice this drastic change :s
If you guys see any changes by removing taskbar (if you are going to ) then please post back, may be we could be improving our battery lives
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hi drupad! sorry i had a typo in my other post... i was meant to say i can sucessfully disable the start menu on 6.5.3/6.5.5 , but i cannot get it to open up the spb menu in the spb settings. there is no option for it... i will try and post screenshots soon! also i have been using this technique for months and having noticed a battery performance increase because i thought it was to do with the ROM i changed from ... i guess it does make a big difference! i will try and disable my task bar and report back! im not to sure if disabling the task bar stops your notifications caching in the RAM. perhaps someone else could help us out?
hi drupad ! just reading through your first post again, the guy who created the cab is NRGZ28. he is one of the most respected members of XDA! he creates his energy rom series for like all htc devices and updates them all once a week!
olyloh6696 said:
hi drupad ! just reading through your first post again, the guy who created the cab is NRGZ28. he is one of the most respected members of XDA! he creates his energy rom series for like all htc devices and updates them all once a week!
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Thanks a lot for that mate will update first post tonight when I reach home! I wish more users could test this and give feedback.
I might have just made this battery issue 'not so severe' any more with these observations!!
Another thing I just realized is I haven't restarted my phone at all - The last time I switched off my phone was when I completely ran out of battery during this 'experiment'!
My phone seems to have stopped freezing. Its 4th day now!!
drupad2drupad said:
thanks a lot for that mate will update first post tonight when i reach home! i wish more users cud test this and give feedback. we might have just made this battery issue 'not so severe' any more!!
Another thing I just realised is I havent restarted my phone at all! My phone seems to have stopped freezing. Its 4th day now!!
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thats great! we can solve the problem with the freezing on wm! dont worry, more users will come soon!
olyloh6696 said:
thats great! we can solve the problem with the freezing on wm! dont worry, more users will come soon!
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updated!
Also, did the poll we talked about
drupad2drupad said:
updated!
Also, did the poll we talked about
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nice! thanks drupad
Hi.
I do not belive in miracles in electricty area but decided to sacrifice myself and test miROM4. I remove wm start by mirolg .cab "miROM_MMLauncher_Mod_Startmenu_Replacement.cab" and removed "Dark NInja Android xxxxxx". I did only "natural" test so far, by configuring SPB for my purposes
what took several minutes of time and battery has lost 20% . ( in my appinion quite normal for 1000mAh battery because of backlight was still on and few minutes of GPRS and Wi-Fi was done and this is what I observed on any ROM I tested so far).
Anyway, now I am charging battery to 100% and will do some more tests.
What annoy me after removing task bar is that I have not any information whether I have active GPRS or Wi-Fi connection and I have not any speed mechanism to disconnect ( what could be done very simply via notification bar). Have You got any idea what to with it ? Maybe SPB has any widget for it ?
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fxdjacentyfxd
fxdjacentyfxd said:
Hi.
I do not belive in miracles in electricty area but decided to sacrifice myself and test miROM4. I remove wm start by mirolg .cab "miROM_MMLauncher_Mod_Startmenu_Replacement.cab" and removed "Dark NInja Android xxxxxx". I did only "natural" test so far, by configuring SPB for my purposes
what took several minutes of time and battery has lost 20% . ( in my appinion quite normal for 1000mAh battery because of backlight was still on and few minutes of GPRS and Wi-Fi was done and this is what I observed on any ROM I tested so far).
Anyway, now I am charging battery to 100% and will do some more tests.
What annoy me after removing task bar is that I have not any information whether I have active GPRS or Wi-Fi connection and I have not any speed mechanism to disconnect ( what could be done very simply via notification bar). Have You got any idea what to with it ? Maybe SPB has any widget for it ?
Regards
fxdjacentyfxd
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Hi fxdjacentyfxd
I din't really look into monitoring speed of connections. I used widgets to mIake sure how much battery I have, if I am connected to wifi or not. When I was connected to data connection - I just checked if I am connected or not by using 'Connections' in the settings.
I am keeping my backlight at 30% now most of the time. I have seen even 10% makes it better, but my eyes don't really like that dark so I keep it 30%. May be that will help as well?
I have used it this way since - and also changed to miROM10 now, and still don't charge my battery at least before 30 hours of use! - which I find to be good battery life for daily smart phone use
Good luck and thanks for trying this, will wait for your feedback
drupad2drupad said:
I din't really look into monitoring speed of connections. I used widgets to mIake sure how much battery I have, if I am connected to wifi or not. When I was connected to data connection - I just checked if I am connected or not by using 'Connections' in the settings.
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Some software are able to connect via GPRS automatically and disconnect too after exit ( Palringo ) but most of them not. So I would like to have such fast way to disconnect ( I did not check - battery is still charging in shutdown - but mentioned "Connections" have not ability to disconnect from GPRS ?. As I remember there are three fields Phone, BT and W-Fi. Wi-Fi shows connected or not and one can switch-off wi-fi . It is not the same as as disconnect but better this than nothing.
Phone only shows that whole GSM radio is on not GPRS connection.
Anyway, maybe You know any kind of software that allows to manage GPRS-Wi-Fi. It does not has to be in upper bar. It is enough I will put it on SPB window.
drupad2drupad said:
I am keeping my backlight at 30% now most of the time. I have seen even 10% makes it better, but my eyes don't really like that dark so I keep it 30%. May be that will help as well?
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Yes in my oppinion ( I was dealing with other "small" devices like PNA and PDA ) backlight is factor thar can dramatically make battery live longer. No wonder , it requires a lot of energy.
I guess that You ensured very good conditions for Your experiemnts. I mean very good quality of GSM and Wi-Fi signal which may cause the transcievers on tg01 could work with low power. It is in my oppinion second main factor. In bad conditions GSM can "eats" even 1-2 W of power.
drupad2drupad said:
I have used it this way since - and also changed to miROM10 now, and still don't charge my battery at least before 30 hours of use! - which I find to be good battery life for daily smart phone use
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Do You want to say that with miROM10 You have the same good result as with miROM4 without removing task bar and wm menu ?
Recently I tested miROM11 ( as mirolg said there are only minor changes in comparison to miROM10 ) but I am rather disappointed. Not stable. Eats battery as any other ROM.
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fxdjacentyfxd