Update on 24.12.10 - My phone hasn't frozen or switched off on it's own since I made these changes! The battery life constantly stays real good. I have only charged my battery up to 100% TWICE in 4 days!! I think this trick works! I will really appreciate if more testers come forward and help us test this
What will this mean?
This will mean that we can make TG01 battery stay minimum of 24 hours and maximum upto 38-40 hours with good amount of browsing, calls, texts, games, ALSO keep exchange sync on forever!!
In total before my battery completely died, I was able to do the following:
2357 minutes of stand-by (includes the activities as well)
137 minutes of browsing
3 Downloads (total less than 10MB)
180 minutes of calls
36 text messages
21 email downloads using Exchange sync - that was ON all the time
60 minutes of gaming
18 pictures taken using camera
12 minute video recorded using camera
1 round of back up and virus scan
This is what I've done:
Installed SPB Shell here
Removed Taskbar (was a cab file in miROM4 that I am using)
Removed Start Menu (I have attached cab that I used to remove start menu)
Before you remove start menu or taskbar - PLEASE make sure you have full functioning SPB Shell installed. You will loose WinMo start menu and notifications (see attached pic) so you will rely solely on SPB Shell ONLY
On miROM4 by removing start menu and taskbar the original free RAM (96MB) increases upto 105+MB - I don't know how, I don't know why. This is my observation and testing!When you install SPB Shell, you will notice the RAM going down to 78-80MB on boot. - I don't think it's bad either.
Now you might wonder what's so different.
Someone did an experiment showing that by running apps the battery drain was 20% compared to stock ROM
Another experiment also led to show that battery drain mostly is not a ROM issue
I am no tech, I am no expert. This is my pure observation and my experimentation with TG01. I know the links I've quoted are for HTC mainly, but I suppose theory still stays. If any one is willing to replicate those experiments on their TG01 please feel free to collaborate with me.
I have updated all my uses on TG01 between 100% battery and 0% battery.
After 100% charging the battery,
Just to re-fresh what I have done with it apart from leaving it on 'stand-by'
I am running SPB Shell with it.
Using Opera 10 browser for facebook, bing, google (approx browsing 97 minutes till now)
I have read news on Evening standard and BBC (approx time 35 minutes till now)
I have downloaded recipe for 2 cocktails
I have made 6 (appox. 147 minutes in total) phone calls
I have sent 31 text messages
My active sync is on since 10pm as I have set my exchange email retrieval 'as item arrives' - so it has downloaded 14 email items at different times. Experiments have shown that results are quite bad when it comes to using Exchange Active Sync schedule 'as item arrives'
I have played Sudoku (about an hour)
I have left my backlight at 70% (on SPB you have an option)
My battery life after 18 hours 30 minutes is 80% with free ram of 78-80% without any processes running i.e. on stand-by!!
1 call (33 minutes long)
5 text messages
2 games (56 minutes total) of puzzle
Facebook using Opera 10 (updated status, replied few messages, browsed mainly)
Downloaded tube map from a website using Opera 10
Took about 18 pictures using TG01
Cleaned RAM, Virus scanned and did an online back up.
After 27 hours 22 minutes - my battery life remaining is 50%
Made 0 phone calls, 0 texts
My active sync downloaded 7 emails
I checked XDA website for about 20 odd minutes using Opera 10
I used facebook for 10 minutes using Opera 10
I recorded a video of length 12 minutes
All this time my wifi and data connections were switched 'ON'
39 hours 17 minutes - my battery is 0% and my TG01 switched off!!
Putting all these links together, I think if ROMs don't affect the battery drain, but by removing these two elements if my phone survives in adverse conditions i.e. exchange email (shown above link) and running apps/games (shown above link) - then it had to be either of these two elements or settings behind them that drain our TG01's battery!
EDIT: Yes, Oly after removing taskbar, when we press on 'Start button' it freezes the mobile. We don't need to remove battery to get rid of the freeze. Just few seconds and it comes back to normal. But to avoid that occuring, I used the attached cab. That cab removes start menu from the face of my WinMo. PS: This cab is NOT my creation. I have found it on XDA. ALL the credit for this cab goes to NRGZ28 - this cab will prevent making RegEdits
THUMBNAILS' LEGENDS:
1) How the 'Today' screen looks without taskbar and Start Menu Icon
2) How the SPB Menu replaces my WinMo start menu
3) How the SPB Menu replaces my WinMo start menu
4) How the SPB Menu replaces my WinMo start menu
5) How the SPB Menu replaces my WinMo start menu
6) How the SPB home screen looks without taskbar
drupad2drupad said:
OK GUYS .....
Removed start menu
Removed taskbar.
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Sounds exciting! How did you remove start menu and task bar?
Pere said:
Sounds exciting! How did you remove start menu and task bar?
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I had DarkNinja task bar pre installed as cab from miROM4 - I removed it. It sort of 'disables' the start menu, but after that I removed start menu using one of the 'remove start menu keep x button' cabs and then eventually even removed 'x' button most programs respond to <- key at bottom.
I could attach cabs if you want but basically removing taskbar will remove all your icons on top and just leave the clock - it makes SPB Shell look nicer as well!
It been 27 hours and 21 minutes as I type and my phone's battery is 50%. I am going to edit the amount of tasks I have done in these 27 hours.
Hey drupa2drupad! Nice thread! I'm using similiar methods to you, but my battery is still awful! what battery are you on? Im on the stock toshiba one... i have spb shell running, opera 9.7 for abt 10-15 minutes, and the battery is 90% and opera 9.7 is meant to be more friendly for the battery,,, i have also diasabled the start emnu... i have had this layout for many months now and cannot reach battery levels as good as yours!
olyloh6696 said:
Hey drupa2drupad! Nice thread! I'm using similiar methods to you, but my battery is still awful! what battery are you on? Im on the stock toshiba one... i have spb shell running, opera 9.7 for abt 10-15 minutes, and the battery is 90% and opera 9.7 is meant to be more friendly for the battery,,, i have also diasabled the start emnu... i have had this layout for many months now and cannot reach battery levels as good as yours!
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Hi Oly,
I am using stock toshiba as well - the one that came with my phone.
Did you remove the taskbar too? I am meaning to upload a screenshot of how my phone looks without taskbar. I am inclined to believe it's got something to do with removal of taskbar more than removing start menu. I have tried removing start menu on it's on and I had same result - Opera 10, draining 10% every 20 to 30 minutes of browsing.
I had desire taskbar installed as cab, I removed it! I am going to get some screen shots in first post
Hi Drupad,
Nice thread!! One thing I noticed was that disabling the start menu also gives 15-20mb free ram and it significantly improves battery life, disabling the sleep mode led and turning on wifi when not needed also helps!
P.S: After disabling windows start menu, I overided it with SPB Menu which is now my default Start Menu!
drupad2drupad said:
Hi Oly,
I am using stock toshiba as well - the one that came with my phone.
Did you remove the taskbar too? I am meaning to upload a screenshot of how my phone looks without taskbar. I am inclined to believe it's got something to do with removal of taskbar more than removing start menu. I have tried removing start menu on it's on and I had same result - Opera 10, draining 10% every 20 to 30 minutes of browsing.
I had desire taskbar installed as cab, I removed it! I am going to get some screen shots in first post
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Hmmmm... I wonder how the taskbar removal makes a big impact on the battery life! I can understand the start menu, basically all your icons in the start menu are cached into the ram, so removing it will consume less resources , more battery life etc etc. But how doesit work with the taskbar? Im using the stck taskbar on Mangosora's 6.5.3 build with spb shell + mobilesense.
Nice thread
gizmogeeker said:
Hi Drupad,
Nice thread!! One thing I noticed was that disabling the start menu also gives 15-20mb free ram and it significantly improves battery life, disabling the sleep mode led and turning on wifi when not needed also helps!
P.S: After disabling windows start menu, I overided it with SPB Menu which is now my default Start Menu!
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Yes i did that too on ffboys 6.5 rom(spb menu for startmenu) unfortunately it does not work for 6.5.3
Drupad, im guessing when u use the phone now, pressing the start softkey freezez your device?
Use the reg tweak to make the start button disappear (like the HD Mini)
You can find it by searching on the forum,
'HD Mini Start Key disabler' (something like that)
olyloh6696 said:
Hmmmm... I wonder how the taskbar removal makes a big impact on the battery life! I can understand the start menu, basically all your icons in the start menu are cached into the ram, so removing it will consume less resources , more battery life etc etc. But how doesit work with the taskbar? Im using the stck taskbar on Mangosora's 6.5.3 build with spb shell + mobilesense.
Nice thread
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Probably, the battery difference is due to the start menu alone and not the taskbar because he removed both.
olyloh6696 said:
Yes i did that too on ffboys 6.5 rom(spb menu for startmenu) unfortunately it does not work for 6.5.3
Drupad, im guessing when u use the phone now, pressing the start softkey freezez your device?
Use the reg tweak to make the start button disappear (like the HD Mini)
You can find it by searching on the forum,
'HD Mini Start Key disabler' (something like that)
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That's weird, I've got winmo 6.5.5 and the start menu disable works for me...
gizmogeeker said:
Hi Drupad,
Nice thread!! One thing I noticed was that disabling the start menu also gives 15-20mb free ram and it significantly improves battery life, disabling the sleep mode led and turning on wifi when not needed also helps!
P.S: After disabling windows start menu, I overided it with SPB Menu which is now my default Start Menu!
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Thanks!! I liked what I was experimenting and I thought more than 1 person analyzing what all these means, obviously made more sense
Yeah even Oly suggested he had free RAM (15MB) on disabling start menu so am sure about RAM now. I did use Wifi most of the time as well as data connection when I used Opera 10 for browsing. Did not disconnect data connection because it reconnected immediately - reason being my exchange sync set to 'retrieve as item arrives'
My start menu is SPB Menu as well Looks cooler, non-WinMo sort as well
olyloh6696 said:
Hmmmm... I wonder how the taskbar removal makes a big impact on the battery life! I can understand the start menu, basically all your icons in the start menu are cached into the ram, so removing it will consume less resources , more battery life etc etc. But how doesit work with the taskbar? Im using the stck taskbar on Mangosora's 6.5.3 build with spb shell + mobilesense.
Nice thread
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Thanks Oly!
I don't know if taskbar has got much to do with battery, but I did see quite a few reg-entries i.e. magnification etc - do they relate to taskbar? By removing taskbar, do I essentially switch these flickers off? Do you think anything i.e. notifications etc are being cached in ram as well? (non-educated guess!)
olyloh6696 said:
Yes i did that too on ffboys 6.5 rom(spb menu for startmenu) unfortunately it does not work for 6.5.3
Drupad, im guessing when u use the phone now, pressing the start softkey freezez your device?
Use the reg tweak to make the start button disappear (like the HD Mini)
You can find it by searching on the forum,
'HD Mini Start Key disabler' (something like that)
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I have attached the cab in first post - this is the one I used to get rid of 'start' button completely. Yes my phone did freeze for few seconds to upto a minute, but came back to normal as soon as my screen locked! But after this cab, no problem at all! I think you can definitely have SPB menu as start menu - as it has got everything you need! I have 6.5.3 miROM4 as well and I was able to do it and use it flawlessly. I will try to put some more screenshots
gizmogeeker said:
That's weird, I've got winmo 6.5.5 and the start menu disable works for me...
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gizmogeeker said:
Probably, the battery difference is due to the start menu alone and not the taskbar because he removed both.
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+1 and then -1
I agree it has to be start menu but don't know if it's alone because Oly has disabled start menu for quite a few months now and he din't seem to notice this drastic change :s
If you guys see any changes by removing taskbar (if you are going to ) then please post back, may be we could be improving our battery lives
drupad2drupad said:
Thanks!! I liked what I was experimenting and I thought more than 1 person analyzing what all these means, obviously made more sense
Yeah even Oly suggested he had free RAM (15MB) on disabling start menu so am sure about RAM now. I did use Wifi most of the time as well as data connection when I used Opera 10 for browsing. Did not disconnect data connection because it reconnected immediately - reason being my exchange sync set to 'retrieve as item arrives'
My start menu is SPB Menu as well Looks cooler, non-WinMo sort as well
Thanks Oly!
I don't know if taskbar has got much to do with battery, but I did see quite a few reg-entries i.e. magnification etc - do they relate to taskbar? By removing taskbar, do I essentially switch these flickers off? Do you think anything i.e. notifications etc are being cached in ram as well? (non-educated guess!)
I have attached the cab in first post - this is the one I used to get rid of 'start' button completely. Yes my phone did freeze for few seconds to upto a minute, but came back to normal as soon as my screen locked! But after this cab, no problem at all! I think you can definitely have SPB menu as start menu - as it has got everything you need! I have 6.5.3 miROM4 as well and I was able to do it and use it flawlessly. I will try to put some more screenshots
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I agree it has to be start menu but don't know if it's alone because Oly has disabled start menu for quite a few months now and he din't seem to notice this drastic change :s
If you guys see any changes by removing taskbar (if you are going to ) then please post back, may be we could be improving our battery lives
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hi drupad! sorry i had a typo in my other post... i was meant to say i can sucessfully disable the start menu on 6.5.3/6.5.5 , but i cannot get it to open up the spb menu in the spb settings. there is no option for it... i will try and post screenshots soon! also i have been using this technique for months and having noticed a battery performance increase because i thought it was to do with the ROM i changed from ... i guess it does make a big difference! i will try and disable my task bar and report back! im not to sure if disabling the task bar stops your notifications caching in the RAM. perhaps someone else could help us out?
hi drupad ! just reading through your first post again, the guy who created the cab is NRGZ28. he is one of the most respected members of XDA! he creates his energy rom series for like all htc devices and updates them all once a week!
olyloh6696 said:
hi drupad ! just reading through your first post again, the guy who created the cab is NRGZ28. he is one of the most respected members of XDA! he creates his energy rom series for like all htc devices and updates them all once a week!
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Thanks a lot for that mate will update first post tonight when I reach home! I wish more users could test this and give feedback.
I might have just made this battery issue 'not so severe' any more with these observations!!
Another thing I just realized is I haven't restarted my phone at all - The last time I switched off my phone was when I completely ran out of battery during this 'experiment'!
My phone seems to have stopped freezing. Its 4th day now!!
drupad2drupad said:
thanks a lot for that mate will update first post tonight when i reach home! i wish more users cud test this and give feedback. we might have just made this battery issue 'not so severe' any more!!
Another thing I just realised is I havent restarted my phone at all! My phone seems to have stopped freezing. Its 4th day now!!
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thats great! we can solve the problem with the freezing on wm! dont worry, more users will come soon!
olyloh6696 said:
thats great! we can solve the problem with the freezing on wm! dont worry, more users will come soon!
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updated!
Also, did the poll we talked about
drupad2drupad said:
updated!
Also, did the poll we talked about
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nice! thanks drupad
Hi.
I do not belive in miracles in electricty area but decided to sacrifice myself and test miROM4. I remove wm start by mirolg .cab "miROM_MMLauncher_Mod_Startmenu_Replacement.cab" and removed "Dark NInja Android xxxxxx". I did only "natural" test so far, by configuring SPB for my purposes
what took several minutes of time and battery has lost 20% . ( in my appinion quite normal for 1000mAh battery because of backlight was still on and few minutes of GPRS and Wi-Fi was done and this is what I observed on any ROM I tested so far).
Anyway, now I am charging battery to 100% and will do some more tests.
What annoy me after removing task bar is that I have not any information whether I have active GPRS or Wi-Fi connection and I have not any speed mechanism to disconnect ( what could be done very simply via notification bar). Have You got any idea what to with it ? Maybe SPB has any widget for it ?
Regards
fxdjacentyfxd
fxdjacentyfxd said:
Hi.
I do not belive in miracles in electricty area but decided to sacrifice myself and test miROM4. I remove wm start by mirolg .cab "miROM_MMLauncher_Mod_Startmenu_Replacement.cab" and removed "Dark NInja Android xxxxxx". I did only "natural" test so far, by configuring SPB for my purposes
what took several minutes of time and battery has lost 20% . ( in my appinion quite normal for 1000mAh battery because of backlight was still on and few minutes of GPRS and Wi-Fi was done and this is what I observed on any ROM I tested so far).
Anyway, now I am charging battery to 100% and will do some more tests.
What annoy me after removing task bar is that I have not any information whether I have active GPRS or Wi-Fi connection and I have not any speed mechanism to disconnect ( what could be done very simply via notification bar). Have You got any idea what to with it ? Maybe SPB has any widget for it ?
Regards
fxdjacentyfxd
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Hi fxdjacentyfxd
I din't really look into monitoring speed of connections. I used widgets to mIake sure how much battery I have, if I am connected to wifi or not. When I was connected to data connection - I just checked if I am connected or not by using 'Connections' in the settings.
I am keeping my backlight at 30% now most of the time. I have seen even 10% makes it better, but my eyes don't really like that dark so I keep it 30%. May be that will help as well?
I have used it this way since - and also changed to miROM10 now, and still don't charge my battery at least before 30 hours of use! - which I find to be good battery life for daily smart phone use
Good luck and thanks for trying this, will wait for your feedback
drupad2drupad said:
I din't really look into monitoring speed of connections. I used widgets to mIake sure how much battery I have, if I am connected to wifi or not. When I was connected to data connection - I just checked if I am connected or not by using 'Connections' in the settings.
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Some software are able to connect via GPRS automatically and disconnect too after exit ( Palringo ) but most of them not. So I would like to have such fast way to disconnect ( I did not check - battery is still charging in shutdown - but mentioned "Connections" have not ability to disconnect from GPRS ?. As I remember there are three fields Phone, BT and W-Fi. Wi-Fi shows connected or not and one can switch-off wi-fi . It is not the same as as disconnect but better this than nothing.
Phone only shows that whole GSM radio is on not GPRS connection.
Anyway, maybe You know any kind of software that allows to manage GPRS-Wi-Fi. It does not has to be in upper bar. It is enough I will put it on SPB window.
drupad2drupad said:
I am keeping my backlight at 30% now most of the time. I have seen even 10% makes it better, but my eyes don't really like that dark so I keep it 30%. May be that will help as well?
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Yes in my oppinion ( I was dealing with other "small" devices like PNA and PDA ) backlight is factor thar can dramatically make battery live longer. No wonder , it requires a lot of energy.
I guess that You ensured very good conditions for Your experiemnts. I mean very good quality of GSM and Wi-Fi signal which may cause the transcievers on tg01 could work with low power. It is in my oppinion second main factor. In bad conditions GSM can "eats" even 1-2 W of power.
drupad2drupad said:
I have used it this way since - and also changed to miROM10 now, and still don't charge my battery at least before 30 hours of use! - which I find to be good battery life for daily smart phone use
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Do You want to say that with miROM10 You have the same good result as with miROM4 without removing task bar and wm menu ?
Recently I tested miROM11 ( as mirolg said there are only minor changes in comparison to miROM10 ) but I am rather disappointed. Not stable. Eats battery as any other ROM.
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fxdjacentyfxd
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hello, anyone else have issues with alarms not sounding when setup through spb time ?
the alarm is actually triggered, appears on screen - just no sound !
this has happened several days in a row with diff alarm sounds.
last night i set a normal windows mobile alarm and setup a spb time alarm for 1/2 hour later. They both fired but still no sound from the spb time alarm.
If you know the way around this, can you please post the answer.
(T-MOB005 on Tmobile Ameo UK)
ta
shockboy2000 said:
hello, anyone else have issues with alarms not sounding when setup through spb time ?
the alarm is actually triggered, appears on screen - just no sound !
this has happened several days in a row with diff alarm sounds.
last night i set a normal windows mobile alarm and setup a spb time alarm for 1/2 hour later. They both fired but still no sound from the spb time alarm.
If you know the way around this, can you please post the answer.
(T-MOB005 on Tmobile Ameo UK)
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SBP Time is not compatible with WM6. They do not list it as being compatible (as they do with some of their products) - see SPB Time Product Page. I have had this issue in the past on WM6 on the Uni and now steer clear of SPB Time except on WM5.
Same here, no sound
ah ok, thanks for pointing out the wm6 compatability issue.
thought it was just me the first couple of days..somehow sleeping through the alarm. when u press the dismis button it does play the sound for a second or two though..crazy.
anyway, at least spb_time displays the time ok as its name suggests it should
shockboy2000 said:
ah ok, thanks for pointing out the wm6 compatability issue.
thought it was just me the first couple of days..somehow sleeping through the alarm. when u press the dismis button it does play the sound for a second or two though..crazy.
anyway, at least spb_time displays the time ok as its name suggests it should
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Actually, you may find it doesn't display the correct time. I found it is sometime a minute or so behind (as sometimes is the clock on the taskbar in WM6)!!!
Anyone have a suggestion for an alarm clock program with will work??
the standard wm6 alarms work fine, whilst u can use spb to display time on the today plugins
Have you tried the "Wakeup Tweak" (on the options page)?
Works fine for me here.
(Ameo - Black Touch 2 - SPB Time 2.1.1 Build 937 Trial)
mojo2000 said:
Have you tried the "Wakeup Tweak" (on the options page)?
Works fine for me here.
(Ameo - Black Touch 2 - SPB Time 2.1.1 Build 937 Trial)
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Interesting. I had the same problem with or without the tweak. I'm currently trying out Chronos by ActiveSync which is working well, but they don't have the nice Today plug-in like SPB time...
works fine here, no probs, wakeup tweak enabled
have never missed any alarm.
indeed, time lags a few seconds
wonderboygr said:
works fine here, no probs, wakeup tweak enabled
have never missed any alarm.
indeed, time lags a few seconds
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I had a weird thought... I know I enabled wakeup tweak but it still didn't work. Now I'm thinking probably should have done a reset in between, otherwise did the tweak really install... Will try again and report back.
How is that possible. Mine also has no sound, whether the wake up tweak is enabled or disabled. Do you use wm06?
Applied tweak, reset, still no sounds.
hope the following will help. this is what i have done in my htc x7500
1. in spb time options, wake up tweak enabled.
2. spb time screensaver disabled
3. wm6 settings, sounds and notifications, check events (warnings, system events), programs notifications (alarms, reminders)
4. wm6 alarms all three disabled.
5. in wm6 power options, uncheck power off device if not used for xxx minutes, for both battery and ac power
6. in wm6 backlight options, do what you like.
then soft reset ( i do it after i make any changes)
hope it works now for you
however
i will make a video to show you it works and upload it to youtube, will be tonight though, still at work
i fact will make a video with all the settings i use. the latest version of spbtime worked
from day 1 i installed it with the dopod wm6 rom.
now i use pk2, which is based on the same rom
just give me some time, will be around midnight, local time, athens , greece
please give me feedback if with the above settings, the spb alarm workrd
wonderboygr said:
hope the following will help. this is what i have done in my htc x7500
1. in spb time options, wake up tweak enabled.
2. spb time screensaver disabled
3. wm6 settings, sounds and notifications, check events (warnings, system events), programs notifications (alarms, reminders)
4. wm6 alarms all three disabled.
>>>5. in wm6 power options, uncheck power off device if not used for xxx minutes, for both battery and ac power
6. in wm6 backlight options, do what you like.
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With regards to step 5, won't this have a negative impact on battery life???
wgary said:
With regards to step 5, won't this have a negative impact on battery life???
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so far, battery lasts 3 days this way. you are certainly right that with the power off checked the battery life will increase dramatically, but for the sake of the spb alarm, this is how it works for my x7500.
have the settings i use in my x7500 solved the spb alarm problem?
wonderboygr said:
so far, battery lasts 3 days this way. you are certainly right that with the power off checked the battery life will increase dramatically, but for the sake of the spb alarm, this is how it works for my x7500.
have the settings i use in my x7500 solved the spb alarm problem?
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I already have battery issues. I tried everything but step 5, with no success. Apparently that is the key. I have gone back to Chronos, which isn't quite as nice but at least it works without a battery drain...
wgary, just to let you know that with the official htc rom wm6 (europe) and without any tweaks (apart from the spb tweak in its options), spb functions normally.
could it be an issue of dopod rom? do not know...
or maybe the use of other programs may interact with spb time?
just a thought... have you tried the wm6 fix sound? just in case? ( look for it in pk 2 thread)
this is really weird stuff man...
wonderboygr said:
hope the following will help. this is what i have done in my htc x7500
1. in spb time options, wake up tweak enabled.
2. spb time screensaver disabled
3. wm6 settings, sounds and notifications, check events (warnings, system events), programs notifications (alarms, reminders)
4. wm6 alarms all three disabled.
5. in wm6 power options, uncheck power off device if not used for xxx minutes, for both battery and ac power
6. in wm6 backlight options, do what you like.
then soft reset ( i do it after i make any changes)
hope it works now for you
however
i will make a video to show you it works and upload it to youtube, will be tonight though, still at work
i fact will make a video with all the settings i use. the latest version of spbtime worked
from day 1 i installed it with the dopod wm6 rom.
now i use pk2, which is based on the same rom
just give me some time, will be around midnight, local time, athens , greece
please give me feedback if with the above settings, the spb alarm workrd
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sorry for not uploading the video on time, had little time and probs with pc
will do so as soon as possible
Please try updating your version of SPB Time to the latest version. I did some forum spelunking and found that they had a new version that fixed this problem. My friend and I just tried it on our Tytns and it worked for both of us... even with the phone in standby!
Good luck.
Sometimes you are away from a charger and want to conserve what you have left, or are trying to run a resource heavy app without glitches (satnav) or trying to get a big update/download faster.
I thought we could post tips that either help with speed of the device or with saving battery - particularly if you know of apps or settings that slow the running down or eat battery.
I know these are quite obvious but I'll list some anyway to get us started
Turn these off for extra speed and batt :
Wireless General
GPS (you can leave location by network on for most stuff like weather apps)
Wifi - turning it off while you're out and about saves lots o batt. I also keep network notification off completely unless I'm in a new location looking for a wifi fix.
Bluetooth - set for off and undiscoverable
Mobile network - Set it to 2G for a big boost in battery life (and I've found, if the 3G is rubbish - I know, obvious, but I recently spent 20 mins moaning of no signal at all to send a tx at a gig, then realised I could flick to 2G and was away!!)
Data Sync
Google - You can turn of Auto sync and just sync manually when you choose
Background Data - Turning this off gives a huge battery boost, but gmail won't arrive in real time, so if you're expecting important mail don't turn it off.
On the sync option, if you know contacts and calendar are not changing that often you can uncheck these and sync manually every now and then
Apps that use Data Sync
Weather - check how often the app refreshes and set it to a longer time - some weather apps are by default set to refresh every 30 mins and this might not be needed most of the time.
Twitter and Facebook widgets and apps - again check the refresh periods, also notifications will Use batt more than no notifications.
Same probably applies for Exchange Sync but I don't use it.
Sound/Display - these things will save batt when you need it.
I think having Ring AND vibe will be more batt intensive, so maybe knock off the vibrate when you want to save battery
Keep Brightness low and lower screen timeout.
Turn off Auto rotation and animations and Notification Flash
Turning keypad tones off etc will save a bit too. It all adds up.
Turning Off TouchFLO
When running CoPilot, it helps to turn off wifi and some have reported that if you can toggle the Sense UI to the ordinary Android 3 screen home this helps too (Tho I've personally not had problems) To turn off Sense UI or Touchflo 7Screen home, you need to first go to settings-applications-manage applications and look for TouchFLO then clear defaults. After this, when you go to home, you'll be offered a choice of home or TouchFlo. To toggle back to Touchflo, press the home button again. To return it to default, just check the Use by default for this action, and then make your choice.
Post anything you've found to help or hinder speed, or to drain or boost battery life
Ta Dayzee xx
Is there a widget to switch from 3G to 2G?
no, that is not a setting that can be done on a widget. all the ones that are around and claim to do it just jump you straight into mobile settings so you can toggle it yourself in two clicks instead of four....
But there is the Mobile Network one - HTC built in - when that is turned off, you can still get calls, and send txts. I use this toggle to do that - also can you not set a shortcut to do 3g to 2g only using bettercut? I'm sure you can, because you have that option in settings and bettercut can make a shortcut to any settings toggle.
Dayzee
Edit - Bettercut doesn't work with Hero Well, certainly not for creating and adding a shortcut to a system setting - will let the devs know...
Is it my imagination or does having the people widget on a home screen makes the device a little sluggish?
Is anyone else using touchdown? Not sure if that is slowing my device down and using battery a lot too?
Toggle Settings is a good app for controlling Daisys suggestions above, taskiller or Advanced Task Manager are essential for closing unwanted apps.
Couple of notes about apps that close stuff down like Taskiller and Task Manager - they can slow your fone down immediately after an end all, as the apps that need to run like TouchFlo have to restart - which they do, all by themselves - but it makes the fone prone to laggyness and force closing if you try to open stuff straight after.
If you get one that allows exclusions (I know advanced Task Manager does but dunno on others) then exclude TouchFLO and you'll get less proba after close all.
Also there were reports that one of the Taskiller apps messed with the long press home functions. Not sure on this tho...
Dayzee said:
If you get one that allows exclusions (I know advanced Task Manager does but dunno on others) then exclude TouchFLO and you'll get less proba after close all.
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With Taskkiller you also have the option to exclude programs. It also has a widget you can tap to close all (except the ignored programs) The free version only allows two apps to be ignored. Exclude TouchFlo is a good suggestion.
Ce said:
With Taskkiller you also have the option to exclude programs. It also has a widget you can tap to close all (except the ignored programs) The free version only allows two apps to be ignored. Exclude TouchFlo is a good suggestion.
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Try TaskPanel, it's free and doesn't seem to have any restrictions in its exclude list. You can also add a memory threshold when TaskPanel should automatically kill applications (configured through a separate list). And finally, it registers itself as an ongoing task and starts up automatically.
TaskPanel ist great... Thanks for that Tip. Have it running in the Background and now it Kills processes that are not in my Exclude List everytime the RAM goes below 50Meg.
My Hero is now (almost) Lag-Free.
Full charge at 7am and at 5pm, battery still at 94%.
How?
Turn off background data.
jhericurls said:
Full charge at 7am and at 5pm, battery still at 94%.
How?
Turn off background data.
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Background data? As in what? Mobile network?
jhericurls said:
Full charge at 7am and at 5pm, battery still at 94%.
How?
Turn off background data.
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Surely that disables all the sync services etc which is really what the phone is all about!
Also the Market won't work unless background data is enabled... It will save battery but a said, many services won't work unless you update manually.
I switched this off when in France so I didn't eat up my roaming data bundle.
The Jones said:
Is it my imagination or does having the people widget on a home screen makes the device a little sluggish?
Is anyone else using touchdown? Not sure if that is slowing my device down and using battery a lot too?
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Ive also noticed this also with the people widget after i removed it as well as the Clock # 8 it severely reduced the lagginess of my Hero
Hi Dayzee & co.,
If you're looking for a good way to save battery power without having to turn wifi on and off manually, check out "Y5 battery saver"
Y5 - Battery Saver is an AndroidTM application which saves your battery by turning the Wifi off in locations where you have never been connected before. The application turns Wifi back on when you are back to known location. It will remember the locations automatically. All you have to do is turn the Wifi on and connect to the known Wifi network for the first time
Really cool, and works like a charm. Ok, you need to have your GPS turned on, but at least that one is useful everywhere you are (except inside buildings, fair enough)... whereas wifi isn't. Furthermore, wifi uses up more battery than GPS.
Concerning Advanced Task Killer (awesome!), you might want to check out this thread if you're sick of having to restart your phone each time you have to sync. In a few words: always put HTC sync in the Ignore list of the program. Unchecking it won't do.
Cheers!
Stop using Peep (set it all to manual update), remove the widget and start using Twidroid.
As well as a huge reduction in battery draw, you'll find your Hero is far more responsive than is ever was before.
The last few days my Hero has not been sluggish and the battery life has increased dramatically. Set to 30 mins update just like Peep was.
Here's my tip, that works really well, for me. I've tried a myriad of task managers, but finally settled for TaskPanel. It doesn't really matter what you use, I suppose, but I found it to be one of the clearest. Furthermore, advanced task killer's and taskillers "kill all" commands seemed to randomly kill the TouchFlo process as well, even though it was "ignored"...
I've come to the conclusion that cpu load rarely is a problem on this phone (in terms of finding a reason to possible lag), unless you are watching videos (which you probably won't, since it appears to be impossible to encode videos so they don't at least slow down a bit every five seconds) or listening to music.
Instead it's the amount of memory you have free for apps to use. I have no idea why, since I also live by the credo "memory free is memory wasted", so ideally my phone would have 5 megs of ram free and everything would work great. Now for some reason, my Hero desktop starts to lag substantially (as well as other gui-elements, such as long scrolling lists) whenever my memory goes below 40 megs.
I always hated the "favourite people" widget by Htc, so I closed it day one. Maybe that's why my htc experience has been pretty positive. I also closed the desktop widgets for SMS-messages and Mail, since they can't show MMS:es or HTML-mail and since they are both ridiculously slow at flicking from one message to the next. I also threw away the novelty clocks by Htc, since they animate too often and that slows down the interface while they are moving. Instead I opted for the iPhone-like clock "digital clock widget". Just don't force kill it, since it will stop updating and you will be stuck with a beautiful clock that shows the right time once every day.
So basically, my formula for a fluid hero experience is:
* Check your free memory with TaskPanel every now and then. If it goes below 50, prepare for slowdown. If it goes below 40, go on a killingspree.
* Register TaskPanel as an "ongoing service", so it shows up in your notification drawer. Now, if you can see your notification drawer (which you can't in the browser), then instead of clicking home to close stuff, open TaskPanel (or whatever) and kill the app you are about to stop using.
* With multitasking comes responsibility. Odds are, if you ever owned an iPhone, this is something you were *****in and moanin about. "Gimme multitasking, gimme!". Well now you've got it and so, learn to use it. Everything that is slow, badly programmed or a resource hog has gotta go, unless you really really need it. Beautiful clock animating slowly? Too bad! Ditch it.
Somebody said Android wold be very good at managing resources by itself and that sounds reasonable. However, I read numerous comments about people finding this to not be the case. Maybe in version 2.0. But for now I'm stuck killing of processes myself. It works for me and makes my UI snappy. And I can keep 3-5 apps running at the same time (that are my own choices, not mandatory apps that come with the UI) without problem. I regularly have babbler, androidirc, taskpanel, market, ebuddy, redditisfun running at the same time without problem. Just kill off apps you are not going to use for a long time.
Ok, sorry to be rambling, but this is my take on the situation. It might get resolved with the Hero update or with the 2.0 version of Android. Don't know, but until then, we need some tools and wild speculation won't solve anything. If you made it through the whole message, I would appreciate your comments - especially any positive experiences you have from "letting Android do its own cleaning". It sounds a little fishy that it would be bad a first, but after about a week, things will get really snappy? What if I boot my phone? Will I have to wait a week again for things to become fast?
-JJ
Speed and battery boosting Tips
Dayzee said:
Sometimes you are away from a charger and want to conserve what you have left, or are trying to run a resource heavy app without glitches (satnav) or trying to get a big update/download faster.
I thought we could post tips that either help with speed of the device or with saving battery - particularly if you know of apps or settings that slow the running down or eat battery.
I know these are quite obvious but I'll list some anyway to get us started
Turn these off for extra speed and batt :
Wireless General
GPS (you can leave location by network on for most stuff like weather apps)
Wifi - turning it off while you're out and about saves lots o batt. I also keep network notification off completely unless I'm in a new location looking for a wifi fix.
Bluetooth - set for off and undiscoverable
Mobile network - Set it to 2G for a big boost in battery life (and I've found, if the 3G is rubbish - I know, obvious, but I recently spent 20 mins moaning of no signal at all to send a tx at a gig, then realised I could flick to 2G and was away!!)
Data Sync
Google - You can turn of Auto sync and just sync manually when you choose
Background Data - Turning this off gives a huge battery boost, but gmail won't arrive in real time, so if you're expecting important mail don't turn it off.
On the sync option, if you know contacts and calendar are not changing that often you can uncheck these and sync manually every now and then
Apps that use Data Sync
Weather - check how often the app refreshes and set it to a longer time - some weather apps are by default set to refresh every 30 mins and this might not be needed most of the time.
Twitter and Facebook widgets and apps - again check the refresh periods, also notifications will Use batt more than no notifications.
Same probably applies for Exchange Sync but I don't use it.
Sound/Display - these things will save batt when you need it.
I think having Ring AND vibe will be more batt intensive, so maybe knock off the vibrate when you want to save battery
Keep Brightness low and lower screen timeout.
Turn off Auto rotation and animations and Notification Flash
Turning keypad tones off etc will save a bit too. It all adds up.
Turning Off TouchFLO
When running CoPilot, it helps to turn off wifi and some have reported that if you can toggle the Sense UI to the ordinary Android 3 screen home this helps too (Tho I've personally not had problems) To turn off Sense UI or Touchflo 7Screen home, you need to first go to settings-applications-manage applications and look for TouchFLO then clear defaults. After this, when you go to home, you'll be offered a choice of home or TouchFlo. To toggle back to Touchflo, press the home button again. To return it to default, just check the Use by default for this action, and then make your choice.
Post anything you've found to help or hinder speed, or to drain or boost battery life
Ta Dayzee xx
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turning off allmost every things,then what reson to have a smart phone and spend 600$ for the device better, turn off your hero and keep in the pocket and turn it back on to use...keep in pocket with power off till next use.this is not the sulution .turning off everythings ........rether go with motorola razer v3.
I still don't see the point of using task managers and killing tasks. I just let the OS manage everything for me.
My Hero run very well indeed since I worked out that Peep was a real battery and resource hog.
I've just been for a 4 mile walk and used My Tracks to track the walk, Twidroid, Browser hot linked from tweets in Twidroid, answered a phone call and responded to a number of texts.
Looked at My Tracks a number of times to see what it was doing and to look at the satellite map. I like to point out things on the phone screen to the kids that they can see in real life - geeky but they think its cool.
Kept checking on how fast we were walking etc...
So screen was active quite a bit.
All over the space of 1hr 15mins with the GPS running all the time.
Hero never lagged once, battery used was around 10% (at a guess, maybe 12%).
Overall very impressed.
First of all, thank you for your interest and feedback! Mostly due to your request I want to present you a new version.
Version 1.25 changelog:
1. Added Connections on/off
2. Added alarm - poor one
Version 1.20 changelog:
1. Added new profiles: WiFi on/off, Bluetooth (BT) on/off, Phone on/off. Added also Soft Reset.
2. Some minor changes.
Version 1.10 changelog:
1. Added half-hours (I think quarters are too much).
2. Hour format (24 or 12) is automatically changed depending on your regional settings.
3. I don't have VGA device, but I think now the screen is squeezed a bit so it can fit to VGA square screen. Please, try and tell me what happens.
4. Added sound profiles - low, medium, high and very high.
5. Number of settings increased from 4 to 15.
Please, download TProfiler120.CAB for latest version.
Automatically switches device sound mode(available profiles - sounds on, sounds off, vibrate, volume low, medium, high, too high), turns on/off wifi, bluetooth, phone mode and soft resets at selected hour and weekday and thus saves your battery power. Simple application, doesn't occupy memory. Tested only on HTC HD2 but should work on other devices too (TP2, Touch HD/Blackstone - tested thanks to replies to this thread).
It works fine on TP2
Great application.
It would be great if it had also a 24-hour mode .
It would also be great if we could set the device to change to a certain volume on the Ring and System. I like to turn my phone down to 2 notches on both of those and crank it back after 5pm.
digiblur said:
It would also be great if we could set the device to change to a certain volume on the Ring and System. I like to turn my phone down to 2 notches on both of those and crank it back after 5pm.
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+1 on this request.
Would be also great if one could change profile on headset plug-in/plug-out.
When I softreset the phone it gives me a non signed error.
VGA please
scabbard1 said:
VGA please
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+1
looks very promising as of this is really important to have because i tend to forget to switch my phone to silent when im at school
ill be watching this thread
Great application !
Feature request: time in quarter/half hours too.
You might want to add some additional 'rules'. If you have a different time schedule for every day in the week, 4 just aren't enough...
Awesome
Been waiting for a free app like this. The Connective Tools one is nice, but I love the continuing user driven development of XDA. The suggestions on here are great and I echo the setting the volume to a custom level and the quarter/half hours things.
zharptitza said:
Been waiting for a free app like this. The Connective Tools one is nice, but I love the continuing user driven development of XDA. The suggestions on here are great and I echo the setting the volume to a custom level and the quarter/half hours things.
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+1 though 5 min time slots would be better. Are going to try and integrate the App so it will switch on calendar appointments?
just installed 1.10 on my HD, but when I start the app it alerts "Doesn't exist", and after tapping 'ok' the app doesn't respond anymore, actually the complete screen doesn't respond. Using the hardwarebuttons I can go back to my homescreen and then using the system taskmanager I can shut the app down after that everythings fine..
anybody got an idea? because it looks like a useful app to me
Dear Xsite3,
I think you had to wait for a while - when started first time the application takes more time (1-2 minutes).
Just installed v1.1 on my HD2 and i get the message attached. Any ideas?
When I try to start up TProfiler I get a message box that simply says "Doesn't Exist". After that I can click on the TProfiler icon all day long but nothing happens. Wonder what doesn't exist?
V 1.10 crashes for me
I was using version 1.00 with no problems on my HTC Fuze running WM 6.5. But version 1.10 crashes on startup with this error:
TProfiler.exe
InvalidCastException
at
Microsoft.VisualBasic.CompilerServices.Conversions.ToInteger()
at
DeviceApplication1.Form1.Form1_Load()
at
System.Windows.Forms.Form.OnLoad()
at
System.Windows.Forms.Form._SetVisibleNotify()
at
System.Windows.Forms.Control.set_Visible()
at
System.Windows.Forms.Application.Run()
at DeviceApplication1.Module1.Main()
The app appears to draw at least a portion of it's window, and then crashes, though it goes by too quickly to see just how much of it is drawn
I really like the app. I especially like the addition of half hours in this version, if I can get it to work.
Hypermommy said:
When I try to start up TProfiler I get a message box that simply says "Doesn't Exist". After that I can click on the TProfiler icon all day long but nothing happens. Wonder what doesn't exist?
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Hmm same here
Phone: TOuch HD
Rom: Xannytech 1.9B (+maxManila)
Cheers
Problems
Fellows, sorry for keeping you waiting - Please, try now - it should work.
Turn off 3G, turn on only when needed
Settings -> Location -> Untick ''Wireless Networks and GPS Satelites''
Settings ->Accounts -> Untick Background data (Unless you want to use market)
Settings -> Wirelless -> Advanced -> Wifi sleep policy -> Never
Use phone on 2G, unless using internet (then switch to 3G mode)
Data traffic always OFF (Use only when needed)
Backlight low or Auto Brightness (And allow light to decrease)
Turn off wireless, basically everything turned off with the power control widget, turn on when necessary
Install task manager and set auto-kill mode to crazy on switch off screen mode (Put apps that always run in ignore list e.g. Launcher, Messaging. Basically the necessities)
Install SetCPU (After rooting your phone) - Min CPU 122mhz, Max CPU ~700mhz - 'On demand' profile
SetCpu - Profiles -> Screen Off -> Min 122mhz, Max 122mhz, Performance mode
Upgrade to Froyo 2.2 - Enable JIT (Saves battery on 2.2+)
Switch to a Cyanogenmod Rom
Enable undervolting (Only for CyanogenMOD roms)
Use RenderFX widget (CyanogenMOD, best to use low red, best to use when you are heading out)
Cyanogenmod - Spare Parts -> End Button Behaviour -> Go to sleep
LAST, but NOT LEAST, if you notice no significant increase in battery life, then your battery is no calibrated right! So go to market, download 'Battery Calibration', and charge your phone to 100%. Next, if its abbout 4000v - 4200v, your phone is correctly calibrated!
If its not 4000 -4200, press the ''calibrate'' button, and let your phone die out, then fully charge it (while its still powered off). Wait till light is green, TURN ON.
After boot, battery will not be 100% yet, reboot once more, charge to 100% (while phone is on), and check your new calibrated battery! It should now be 4000 to 4200v
I know there might be programs and applications to increase your battery life, but I dont have any experience with these, so feel free to post your experiences! Some examples may include juicedefender, etc
Anyone wants to add to this list, feel free =)
royalbloodvi said:
Turn off 3G
Backlight low
Turn off wireless, basically everything turned off with the power control widget
Install task manager and set auto-kill mode to crazy on switch off screen mode
I know there might be programs and applications to increase your battery life, but I dont have any experience with these, so feel free to post your experiences! Some examples may include juicedefender, etc
Anyone wants to add to this list, feel free =)
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I will never install a task manager it's do more damage then it does good.....
My battery last 2 days and the only thing i do is install juicedefender and use my phone alot
knudsen81 said:
I will never install a task manager it's do more damage then it does good.....
My battery last 2 days and the only thing i do is install juicedefender and use my phone alot
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I don't know what goes wrong, but mine losts for only one day. If i have charged it overnight the battery is empty the next evening
No task managers. The phone manages its RAM well and the battery will last longer. For normal uses upto 1.5 days and for heavy users 1 day.
dabulcke said:
I don't know what goes wrong, but mine losts for only one day. If i have charged it overnight the battery is empty the next evening
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and here I heard installing juicedefender does more damage than good too.. what to believe? Everything is based on peoples hearsay and no evidence..
On my girl friends X10 mini I changed from ADW launcher to Helixlauncher and changed the brightness to auto. That made a HUGE difference.
Was on vacation and turned off 3G because I was not gonna use any expenisve data. That alone boosted my batterylife about 1 days worth.
junglepunk said:
Was on vacation and turned off 3G because I was not gonna use any expenisve data. That alone boosted my batterylife about 1 days worth.
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people can do much to boost battery time, like turn off 3g, brightness control, turn off gps and so on, that all helps the battery
I have switched of almost everything and still get about 1 day of battery with about 2-3Hrs of music and a few calls and videos.
is it ok?
I get over 48 hours and I use the wifi a lot and do about 30mins of calls a day.
My tips:
* turn background data off and manually update ur emails when u want - this is the best tip I put it on my blog too
* manually enable network data when u need it
* use the top button to go on standby as soon as you are done using the phone
* keep gps, 3g and wifi off unless u want to use it
Sent from my U20i using XDA App
I have background data off.
No emailing whatsoever till now....
Almost 75% of the time in standby
Gps 3G wifi bluetooth are off.
Yet with stock launcer i get 24Hrs
Helix 30Hrs..
Why?
Its been two weeks(or 3) since i bought the phone...
Please reply.
BTW when did you buy the phone?
^^Ok.
I have come to know the problem.
Running any apps in background like Battery Indicator or task manager brings down the battery so much(the latter not much though)..
Because daily i used to get the above with battery indicator pro on.
But after uninstalling it i got about double that battery life..
So people better don't run them all the time.
task manager can be used sometimes about once every 2 hrs o so.
This increased my battery life so much on stock launcher
Just got the pro today. Will be ditching my X2 depending on the performance of this one after a week. So far, I love the mini pro for the fact that I can now hear my incoming messages and calls!
A couple of questions though:
1) Is there a way to wake up the screen when an SMS arrives?
2) Custom ringtone per contact?
3) Is there a way to disable screen lock when the phone goes to sleep by itself (not pressing the power button) ?
4) Is there a way to unlock the screen without the need to press the left button, I was hoping to go directly to the pattern unlock after i turn on the phone
Still getting used to the keyboard lay-out as I've been using X2 for almost 6 months.
andoy said:
1) Is there a way to wake up the screen when an SMS arrives?
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I use Chomp SMS app and this allows the screen to wake-up, I think Handcent SMS does too. I never used the stock SMS app so not sure if there is a way to do it with that.
andoy said:
3) Is there a way to disable screen lock when the phone goes to sleep by itself (not pressing the power button) ?
4) Is there a way to unlock the screen without the need to press the left button, I was hoping to go directly to the pattern unlock after i turn on the phone
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Not sure if this answers your question, I just press the Menu button twice to unlock the phone, never used the power button to wake it up funnily enough, only used the power button go in to sleep mode. When I press Menu button it wakes up to the pattern unlock.
ayewhy said:
I use Chomp SMS app and this allows the screen to wake-up, I think Handcent SMS does too. I never used the stock SMS app so not sure if there is a way to do it with that.
Not sure if this answers your question, I just press the Menu button twice to unlock the phone, never used the power button to wake it up funnily enough, only used the power button go in to sleep mode. When I press Menu button it wakes up to the pattern unlock.
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Nice, i'll try to look for those apps. I did try the menu button and it worked. At least this relieves stress on the power button since I won't be using it to wake-up the phone anymore.
How's about not locking the phone when it goes to sleep? Unless I press the power button?
After a day with it, battery is now @ 30%+. Hope it improves or SE comes out with a high capacity.
Hi, where is the disable 3G button?
I can't seem to find it. I found wifi on and off.
and I unchecked location with gps.
thanks
Helix launcher is the best thing I installed to my mini pro. Batt life is now 3-4 days regular use and 5 days if i don't play games. Games are draining the batt quickly.
I'm totally getting rid of my X2.
3 to 4 days? Lol how can that be possible.. Did you use 3g?
hyhyhhy said:
3 to 4 days? Lol how can that be possible.. Did you use 3g?
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I can prove it, there's a display in the phone where it says # of hours unplugged. If it's not working for you, doesn't mean it shouldn't for others as well. If you barely make 2 days, then that's what we should be LOLing about.
My setting is as follows:
- 2g only
- 1 to 2 hours of wifi and bluetooth per day
- 1 to 2 hours of games (love the games) per day
- tried GPS for 1 hour using mapdroyd
- a couple of calls and text messages per day
- tried watching a movie (AVI) for an hour using yxflash
- tried the media, played MP3s for an hour
- tried meebo for an hour
- I got my alarms ON always
- notifications ON always
- custom led lights for new SMS (using ringo pro) always
- max volume for the entire day
- medium volume at night
- data connection off
- background data off
- screen brightness to zero but the sensor is still working (weird), the screens still adjusts to the surrounding
This is after installing helix. Before helix, I got a max of 1 and a half days only.
Ray_jai said:
Hi, where is the disable 3G button?
I can't seem to find it. I found wifi on and off.
and I unchecked location with gps.
thanks
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Im finding the same issue. Im looking for the "use only 2g" as found on the g1 (my other phone) but I can find it. Some help would be excellent on locating this option!!
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What is S-OFF?
Read this: S-OFF explained - by a Developer
◄●Troubleshooting●►
My device won't turn on - Check out these tips from Sprint.
◄●EVO 4G LTE Extras●►
EVO 4G LTE Reviews - by Legendary20
◄●EVO 4G LTE Battery Tips●►
◄●All Users●►
Turn off all radios when not in use (gps, Bluetooth, wifi, data, 4g). Use a widget (default or app like Switchpro) to quickly turn them on and off. The radios draw power even if not in use. Be sure to use WiFi over 3G when you can.
Stop using live wallpapers - I love them, but they are really only good for showing off due to their battery drain.
Set your screen timeout to something that fits you - This will prevent your phone from staying on when you don’t manually turn off the screen (which you should).
Everyone has that issue where the first ten percent go the fastest.
This is due to two things. One is that these types of batteries stop charging once they get to 100% to prevent damage, and begin charging again at 90%. This means that you could potentially unplug your seemingly fully charged phone at 90% actual charge. The second is below
Use the trick described in this thread, it works.
My idea behind how often you should do it is once a month, if you flash a new ROM, or if you stop noticing the benefits.
This is the calibration technique recommended by HTC themselves. Check it out!
Make sure your phone sleeps - I'm sure you have all heard around that your phone isn't "sleeping".
This is referring to the phone's "awake" time, hence the name. When you go to menu>settings>about phone>battery, you can compare the two numbers, "up time" vs. "awake time." Generally, up time refers to the amount of time since the last reboot. The "awake time" is how long the screen has been active. The problem is, a lot of the time, due to the endless possibilities of inconsistencies between apps/ROMs/kernels/phones, the phone will not go to "sleep", drawing power proportionate to the screen being in use when it reality the phone is sitting idle.
If you compare these numbers, and they are the same, or if you note the difference, turn off the screen for a minute, then re-check and they are the same, then your phone is not sleeping.
One solution is to reboot.
Usually, SystemPanel will show an app that has gone "rouge" and is keeping your phone awake.
Uninstall applications/reinstalling them slowly, checking after every install to see what is causing it is one tedious but surefire solution.
Lastly, follow these steps that I have discovered almost always work.
Reboot phone.
Instantly upon reboot, as soon as you gain control, open up some type of monitor/taskkiller
"kill all" tasks on startup; about 5 times in quick succession should do the trick.
Turn off the screen and leave it for about five minutes.
Check the up time v. awake time and see if they are the same.
If they are, repeat steps 1-5. If they are different, you are good.
Use Juice Defender - Basically it controls your data for you to maximize life. Learn more from my review of Juice Defender.
Task killers used to be the shiz, but no longer.
Here is the ultimate, in depth, graphically assisted, explanation by the famous Fresh ROM's chef, Flipz. In short, they aren't needed (and can do more harm than good).
A good alternative is the application SystemPanel Pro. It has a free version, but I highly reccomend purchasing the paid app. It basically monitors everything going on with your phone's usage both in real time an in terms of usage history. If your battery is draining fast, it tells you what app was doing it, how much it was doing it, and allows you to stop it.
◄●Rooted Users●►
Try out custom kernels - In the Android Development section of the forums, you can see all of the different kernels being developed. These allow for all kinds of modifications like underclocking the CPU and undervolting, both of which save battery. Here is a great guide to custom kernel's by mroneeyedboh.
Use SetCPU in compliance with whatever your custom kernel allows.
This site will explain the basics of SetCPU: http://www.pokedev.com/setcpu/
-Profiles from SetCPU should usually involve these for battery life optimization:
-Screen off at the minimum clock speed for both, with the max raised on level if sluggishness is apparent
-A temperature greater than “X”
-General power related profiles that lower cpu speed at lower battery levels
◄●Notes●►
Some apps or processes begin to run at startup and keep the phone awake. These apps are not detected by things like spare parts or system panel, unless sometimes represented in the "system" process, in which case its usage will be unusually high.
This shouldn't take more than three repeats, and if it does, you need to factory reset, and slowly add apps back to see what's causing the problem.
When it comes to actually "calibrating" one's battery, there are a couple of methods floating around. The method I first learned is to charge the phone all the way, boot into recovery immediately, and "wipe battery stats". Then reboot quickly, and run your phone all the way to death without charging it, then charge it all the way without interrupting it, and you should be good to go. Do this when changing ROMs/kernels for best results.
Big thanks to Biofall for the battery tips that you see her. Thanks dude.
I'll keep this updated as often as possible. Open to all suggestions, just send me a PM.
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the enable/disable data always isn't really an option on ICS roms, if it is, it's def not in the same place
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the enable/disable data always isn't really an option on ICS roms, if it is, it's def not in the same place
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Right you are. I'll update that, thanks.
I'd suggest adding v6 supercharger but that isn't as easy as somethings...
Mostly due to it changing ram settings for apps n making.it kill them in x time or at x amount
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1. Battery calibration for first runtime should just be using it until the phone shuts off, then go to bootloader until it shuts off. Then do a full charge to 4.2v.
I would HIGHLY suggest putting a button combination map.
With out the removable battery you know a ton of people are gonna flip out
without knowing them
Speaking of button combinations, there's an interesting tidbit here http://insidesprintnow.wordpress.com/2012/05/10/htc-evo-4g-lte-power-on-troubleshooting-steps/
Gordon Ramsay said:
Speaking of button combinations, there's an interesting tidbit here http://insidesprintnow.wordpress.com/2012/05/10/htc-evo-4g-lte-power-on-troubleshooting-steps/
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I guess they allow 20 seconds for user error. Thts great though we dont have to worry about all tht. Smart move on their side
Hunt3r.j2 said:
1. Battery calibration for first runtime should just be using it until the phone shuts off, then go to bootloader until it shuts off. Then do a full charge to 4.2v.
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Occasional recalibration is good just so you have accurate percentages.
coffeehandle said:
I would HIGHLY suggest putting a button combination map.
With out the removable battery you know a ton of people are gonna flip out
without knowing them
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Good idea. Anybody got a list of them?
Gordon Ramsay said:
Speaking of button combinations, there's an interesting tidbit here http://insidesprintnow.wordpress.com/2012/05/10/htc-evo-4g-lte-power-on-troubleshooting-steps/
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Oh nice. I'll include that. Thanks man.
Added in Legendary20's reviews thread.
Now that most of us have gotten our phones, be sure to post up your tips and tricks to add to the OP.
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It says Bluetooth 4 which if that's the case wouldn't make a difference if its on or off. Also there isn't a practical way to turn off 4g and doesn't make much of a difference. Incase you wanted to add notes to the battery part.
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Screen photos can also be taken while holding down the power button and taping the home key. The screen will blink then you get a popup screen telling you image has been saved to your image file.
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I hear 3g and voice works simultaneously cuz of the chipset... awesome
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Yes, you can talk and internet browse (3G) at the sametime. I confirmed it with my EVOLTE.
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Added link to regaw_leinad's post about S-OFF
1) on the Gmail app when trying to copy text you used to be able to just click on the highlighted text to copy it to clipboard, now you have to go down to the bottom left and click on the icon to do it. This is only on the Gmail app.
2) The menu button will be sorely missed. Now the menu for each app appears, depending on the app, on a different part of the screen, as opposed to having it always on the same spot.
The "Recent Apps" button is UTTERLY USELESS! With the original Evo, you used to be able to press and hold the home button and see the most recent 8 apps without having to scroll at all!! WHAT WERE THEY THINKING?? (WERE THEY THINKING?!?!)
3) The text app, and for that matter Handcent and GoSMS DO NOT show the count for the unread messages, neither on the icon, nor on the notification bar, UNLESS you actually scroll down the notifications, then you can see how many unread messages you have.
4) Gmail app used to be awesome with the original Evo. Not only did it show the total unread messages you had but also, if you marked a message as unread (even a very old message), whether you did it from the phone or even from the computer, you would get a notification as if you just got a new message! Where's that?!?!
5) Sync seems to be having its own issues as well. On the regular email app, if I set it up to sync email every 5 minutes, it takes rather about 10-15 mins for the emails to come in. Original Evo was prompt at that...
6) on the regular email app in order to be able to go to the next or previous email, one has to first click on menu and only then do you have the "next" or "previous" option, unlike on the original Evo.
7) When already on max volume and want to make sure you still are with the volume rocker, you would hear a sound with the old Evo, now you got nothing are have to actually LOOK at the screen to make sure you got it to the max.
8 ) No option to play YouTube videos out of the YouTube app when clicking on a YouTube video on the browser.
That was a given with the original Evo. Annoying as hell on the LTE.
9) You MUST use both hands when holding the phone vertically if you want to have access to the whole screen (if you're laying down or sitting back on a sofa, for example), otherwise you will be unwillingly hitting the volume rocker or needing a chiropractor for your thumb. An issue which could be avoided with a gel cover, but could have been foreseen by HTC when producing such a smooth non-grippy back to the phone.
10) Gmail and Tasks are incompatible?! I mean, what's the point??
11) The regular email app can only be accessed a limited amount of times per 15 minutes? I already got quite a few of those error messages...
12) You used to be able to choose the input method and switch keyboards by long-pressing on any field. Now you have to exit whatever application you're on and go to settings, keyboard etc. to do it.
This isn't a cellphone war between the 4G and the LTE, obviously the LTE has lots of stuff over the original Evo. I'm not here to bash the LTE, on the contrary I would love to find solutions to all (or most) of those issues.
For the time being if I have to sum it up:
I love the speed and I LOVE the battery life but, in terms of practicality, I would stick with the original Evo.
P.S. I would rather not root my phone, and would like those problems to go away, help!
Gimme your thoughts!
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1) on the Gmail app when trying to copy text you used to be able to just click on the highlighted text to copy it to clipboard, now you have to go down to the bottom left and click on the icon to do it. This is only on the Gmail app.
2) The menu button will be sorely missed. Now the menu for each app appears, depending on the app, on a different part of the screen, as opposed to having it always on the same spot.
The "Recent Apps" button is UTTERLY USELESS! With the original Evo, you used to be able to press and hold the home button and see the most recent 8 apps without having to scroll at all!! WHAT WERE THEY THINKING?? (WERE THEY THINKING?!?!)
3) The text app, and for that matter Handcent and GoSMS DO NOT show the count for the unread messages, neither on the icon, nor on the notification bar, UNLESS you actually scroll down the notifications, then you can see how many unread messages you have.
4) Gmail app used to be awesome with the original Evo. Not only did it show the total unread messages you had but also, if you marked a message as unread (even a very old message), whether you did it from the phone or even from the computer, you would get a notification as if you just got a new message! Where's that?!?!
5) Sync seems to be having its own issues as well. On the regular email app, if I set it up to sync email every 5 minutes, it takes rather about 10-15 mins for the emails to come in. Original Evo was prompt at that...
6) on the regular email app in order to be able to go to the next or previous email, one has to first click on menu and only then do you have the "next" or "previous" option, unlike on the original Evo.
7) When already on max volume and want to make sure you still are with the volume rocker, you would hear a sound with the old Evo, now you got nothing are have to actually LOOK at the screen to make sure you got it to the max.
8 ) No option to play YouTube videos out of the YouTube app when clicking on a YouTube video on the browser.
That was a given with the original Evo. Annoying as hell on the LTE.
9) You MUST use both hands when holding the phone vertically if you want to have access to the whole screen (if you're laying down or sitting back on a sofa, for example), otherwise you will be unwillingly hitting the volume rocker or needing a chiropractor for your thumb. An issue which could be avoided with a gel cover, but could have been foreseen by HTC when producing such a smooth non-grippy back to the phone.
10) Gmail and Tasks are incompatible?! I mean, what's the point??
11) The regular email app can only be accessed a limited amount of times per 15 minutes? I already got quite a few of those error messages...
12) You used to be able to choose the input method and switch keyboards by long-pressing on any field. Now you have to exit whatever application you're on and go to settings, keyboard etc. to do it.
This isn't a cellphone war between the 4G and the LTE, obviously the LTE has lots of stuff over the original Evo. I'm not here to bash the LTE, on the contrary I would love to find solutions to all (or most) of those issues.
For the time being if I have to sum it up:
I love the speed and I LOVE the battery life but, in terms of practicality, I would stick with the original Evo.
P.S. I would rather not root my phone, and would like those problems to go away, help!
Gimme your thoughts!
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Some on the stuff like not being able to open links in the YouTube app is an apple problem, choosing diferent keyboards was something the google did on ICS(annoyed as hell too), some issues is cause of ICS and some other is sense but I could live with them
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1 note about that long rant, with the keyboard a small icon appears in your taskbar that you can pull down to change input method without having to exit the app and go to settings
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